Latest / Reformed Thinking / From Milk to Meat: Scripture-Trained Discernment (Hebrews 5:12–14)
Transcript
- 0:00Welcome to Reformed Thinking. We're doing another deep dive
- 0:02today, really getting into the text to sharpen our
- 0:05understanding and hopefully our practice.
- 0:08Glad be here. And today we're looking at a
- 0:10passage that's, well, quite pointed.
- 0:13It's from Hebrews chapter 5, verses 12 through 14.
- 0:16Kind of pastoral diagnostic, you could say.
- 0:18A diagnostic that feels incredibly relevant.
- 0:21We talked about this before we started this sort of
- 0:23contemporary ailment. We are just swimming in
- 0:26Christian content, aren't we? Books, podcasts, videos, blogs,
- 0:30everywhere you look. Absolutely saturated.
- 0:33Yet there seems to be this thinness when it comes to actual
- 0:36Christian judgement. You know, the ability to apply
- 0:39God's Word wisely to life. Lots of information, maybe not
- 0:42so much formation. And that's precisely the issue
- 0:45the author of Hebrews tackles head on.
- 0:47He saw people in his own day who'd been around the truth for
- 0:49a long time. But they were stalled,
- 0:54spiritually stunted. They had the input, maybe, but
- 0:56not the output. Not the skilled application.
- 0:58Exactly. They knew things theoretically,
- 1:01but lacked that practiced ability to let the word shape
- 1:05their decisions, their character, their assurance.
- 1:07So that's our mission for this deep dive.
- 1:09We want to unpack these verses and the surrounding context to
- 1:12show that Christian maturity isn't this mystical ZAP you wait
- 1:17for. Right, it's not passive.
- 1:18It's what the sources call a scripture shaped competence, and
- 1:22it's achieved through specific disciplined practice, habits,
- 1:27training, real measurable growth.
- 1:30We need to move past thinking. Spiritual growth happens,
- 1:34Hebrews insists It's active. It demands effort, skill,
- 1:38practice. Like learning any craft, really.
- 1:40OK. Let's get into it then.
- 1:41Section 1. The author has just been
- 1:44soaring, hasn't he? Laying out this incredible case
- 1:47for the supremacy of Christ in the earlier chapters.
- 1:49Absolutely stunning Christology. Hi Doctrine.
- 1:51And then, bam, he hits the brakes.
- 1:53He pivots from this majestic theology to, well, a pretty
- 1:57sharp rebuke. This is Hebrews 5.12, what we're
- 2:00calling the stinging mismatch, the rebuke of.
- 2:03It really is stinging because he puts his finger right on this
- 2:06gap, this mismatch between the time they've been believers, the
- 2:09time they've been under instruction, and their actual
- 2:11spiritual development. Here's a moral dimension to time
- 2:14here, isn't there? Definitely that phrase be
- 2:17turning Christian on by reason of time isn't just marking
- 2:20calendar days, the sources emphasize.
- 2:22It carries moral weight. It implies accountability.
- 2:26Like you've had this long hearing the truth, so you should
- 2:30be at this level. Time creates a kind of duty.
- 2:33A duty, an obligation. The clock's ticking, spiritually
- 2:36speaking, and the author makes the expectation explicit.
- 2:40By this time you want to be teachers.
- 2:42That word ought philontis in the Greek.
- 2:45What does that signal? It means being under obligation
- 2:48or owing a debt. It's strong language.
- 2:51They owed it, given the time and teaching they'd received, to be
- 2:54capable of instructing others. Now hang on, does that mean
- 2:57every single Christian is supposed to be like an elder or
- 3:00a pastor holding an official teaching office?
- 3:03That seems like a high bar for everyone.
- 3:05That's a fair question, and a necessary clarification.
- 3:08The source material suggests this isn't primarily about
- 3:10formal office, it's about a congregational baseline of
- 3:13competence. A minimum standard.
- 3:15Kind of, yeah. After years of hearing the word,
- 3:18being part of the community, you should at least be able to pass
- 3:21on the basics, the AB CS of the faith.
- 3:24You should understand it well enough and live it consistently
- 3:28enough to explain it simply to someone else.
- 3:31Maybe your kids a new believer, a neighbor.
- 3:34So it's about basic spiritual reproduction, not necessarily
- 3:38ordination. Precisely, Yeah.
- 3:40Can you articulate the core truths?
- 3:42Can you model basic Christian living?
- 3:45That's the expectation here. OK, but the problem was they
- 3:48weren't meeting even that baseline.
- 3:50How did the author know what was the indicator of their failure?
- 3:54Their regression. He says they have need of
- 3:57someone to teach you again the basic principles of the oracles
- 4:00of God. The keyword there is again plain
- 4:02in Greek. That's playing a cust.
- 4:04You have need again. So they weren't just stuck, they
- 4:07were actually going backwards, having to relearn things they
- 4:09should have known. Exactly.
- 4:11Circling back to square 1, they couldn't build because the
- 4:14foundation itself felt shaky to them.
- 4:16They kept needing the introductory course repeated.
- 4:19What were these basic principles?
- 4:21Tiestushes. Actress the elements of the
- 4:23beginning? Is this some obscure corner of
- 4:26theology? Not at all.
- 4:28It's a standard image, like the ABC's The Foundational Truths,
- 4:32what he elsewhere calls milk, and the oracles of God to secure
- 4:37the assist referring to Scripture, God's revealed word.
- 4:40So they had the whole Council of God available, but they were
- 4:43stuck demanding only the introductory bits.
- 4:46Right. And the rebuke isn't against the
- 4:48fundamentals themselves. Milk is essential for babies.
- 4:51You need the basics when you start out.
- 4:53But you're not supposed to stay on milk forever.
- 4:55That's the point. Remaining on milk when you
- 4:57should be eating solid food isn't humility, it's culpable
- 5:01immaturity. It's like an adult demanding
- 5:03baby food sources stress Milk is a foundation, not a ceiling.
- 5:08These folks were capable of more, but they were choosing not
- 5:11to grow up, spiritually speaking.
- 5:13And this wasn't just a theoretical problem, was it?
- 5:16Their stagnation had immediate consequences for what the author
- 5:19wanted to teach them. It actually interrupted his
- 5:21argument. It did.
- 5:22He literally breaks off his teaching flow.
- 5:24He'd been building this case about the sun, but he says
- 5:26they've become dull of hearing. He was about to launch into
- 5:29something really deep, the solid food of Christ's priesthood
- 5:33according to the Order of Melchizedek.
- 5:35Chapter 6 and seven delve into this.
- 5:37OK, let's pause here because Melchizedek in priesthood can
- 5:40sound really abstract, maybe even, you know, irrelevant to
- 5:43the average person today. Why is this specific doctrine
- 5:47the solid food? What makes it hard for the
- 5:49immature to grasp? It's solid food because
- 5:52understanding it requires, well, theological processing power.
- 5:57You need to be able to hold several big concepts together at
- 5:59once. Like what?
- 6:01Like typology, how Melchizedek prefigures Christ, like
- 6:04understanding the temporary nature of the Auronic priesthood
- 6:06and the Mosaic law, like grasping the finality and
- 6:09sufficiency of Christ sacrifice. It connects covenant history,
- 6:12Christology, soteriology. It's complex.
- 6:15So if you're still fuzzy on, say, basic concepts of sin and
- 6:18grace, or the difference between the old and new covenants,
- 6:21you're just not equipped to understand why being a priest
- 6:24like Melchizedek is such a game changer.
- 6:27Exactly. It would be opaque, unclear.
- 6:29You wouldn't see the connections or grasp the implications for
- 6:34your assurance, for your access to God.
- 6:36Their immaturity made this profound truth inaccessible to
- 6:40them. They lacked the trained
- 6:41theological palette, the analytical skill.
- 6:44So the meat isn't some secret gnostic knowledge, it's a deeper
- 6:48understanding of the revelation they already had but weren't
- 6:51ready to digest. That's it.
- 6:53Which leads us to directly into Section 2, the specific
- 6:55diagnosis Hebrews 5.13 gets clinical.
- 6:59The author names the condition all.
- 7:00Right. What's the specific finding?
- 7:01Why were they stuck on milk? He says everyone who lives on
- 7:04milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness since he's a
- 7:07child. The key term is iteros
- 7:10unskilled. Unskilled.
- 7:12What does that imply? Not necessarily unintelligent.
- 7:15Correct. Peperos means inexperienced,
- 7:18untrained, unacquainted with. It's not about IQ, it's about a
- 7:21lack of practiced skill. They hadn't put the word to work
- 7:24often enough to become proficient with it.
- 7:26So it's like having a toolbox full of tools, but never
- 7:28actually building anything. You know about the tools, but
- 7:31you're clumsy when you try to use them.
- 7:33Great analogy. It's a failure of habituated
- 7:36competence. They possess the oracles of God,
- 7:40but they lack the skill, the ingrained habit of using that
- 7:43word to navigate life, make ethical judgments, or find
- 7:47stable assurance. They had the map but couldn't
- 7:50read the terrain effectively. And the specific area where they
- 7:53lack skill is the word of righteousness, the chiastis.
- 7:57What exactly does that phrase mean here?
- 8:00Is it just about justification by faith?
- 8:02That's certainly foundational, but the sources suggest a richer
- 8:05meaning here. There's an objective sense, yes,
- 8:08the message about God's righteousness revealed in Christ
- 8:10and the ethical standards that flow from it.
- 8:12The facts. The Doctrine.
- 8:14OK, that makes sense. But you said richer.
- 8:15Yes, the context, especially with the emphasis on skill and
- 8:19discernment in verse 14, points strongly toward an effective
- 8:22meaning to the Word is an instrument that actually
- 8:24produces righteousness in the believer.
- 8:26So not just the news about righteousness, but the tool that
- 8:29shapes you into being righteous in your judgments and actions.
- 8:33Precisely. It's scripture viewed as the
- 8:36active agent God uses to form right thinking, right feeling,
- 8:40right choosing. The author is concerned with the
- 8:43words power to shape practical holiness.
- 8:45So being unskilled means you might know the doctrine of
- 8:48justification, but you can't effectively wield that truth or
- 8:52other scriptures to say, forgive someone who wronged you, or make
- 8:56a wise financial decision, or resist A subtle temptation.
- 9:00You lack the practical know how. Exactly.
- 9:03You haven't developed the skill to bring the word to bear on the
- 9:05complexities of life. You know the theory, but lack
- 9:08the applied technique that keeps you infantile.
- 9:11Which connects to his point about them being nipuoid
- 9:13children. Infants.
- 9:14It's OK to be an infant right after conversion.
- 9:17Obviously that's natural, but the diagnosis here is that
- 9:20prolonged infancy is blameworthy.
- 9:22It's not cute anymore. It's a problem.
- 9:24Spiritual infancy that's tolerated or even excused
- 9:27becomes spiritual indolence defended.
- 9:29Indolence. Laziness.
- 9:31Really. They were content in the
- 9:32nursery. Content with the simple stuff,
- 9:34unwilling to put in the effort, the discipline practice required
- 9:38for growth. Their lack of progress wasn't
- 9:40inability, it was negligence. They weren't meeting the demands
- 9:44that their time under the word placed upon them.
- 9:46OK, if we step back and connect this ancient diagnosis to today,
- 9:51it feels like it explains a lot about our contemporary ailment.
- 9:55Why are we often so content rich but competence poor?
- 9:58What are the modern hindrances? I think we can see several key
- 10:02factors that feed this Arrested Development today.
- 10:05First, what the sources might call anti doctrinal pragmatism
- 10:08meaning meaning a church culture that often values immediate
- 10:11results, emotional experiences, or numerical growth over deep,
- 10:16careful theological formation. We prize what feels like it
- 10:19works right now, rather than the slow, steady work of building
- 10:22doctrinal integrity and ethical skill.
- 10:24So the focus shifts from is this true and how does it shape us to
- 10:27Does this attract a crowd or does this give me a quick
- 10:29spiritual boost? Right, and in that environment
- 10:32the word often gets well thinned out, reduced to slogans,
- 10:38inspirational quotes, maybe therapeutic advice.
- 10:40Rather than being wielded as the sharp 2 edged sword.
- 10:43It is training the conscience. People are seeking inspiration,
- 10:48not necessarily formation that requires effort.
- 10:51That leads naturally to the second hindrance, perpetual
- 10:53adolescence. Yeah, this is huge.
- 10:55We confuse making the faith accessible with keeping it
- 10:59infantile. There's a constant demand for
- 11:01novelty, for quick hits, for easily digestible content.
- 11:05And technology feels this massively, doesn't it?
- 11:07Monumentally, digital distraction is rewiring our
- 11:11brains, algorithms, fetus, constant novelty, short form
- 11:14content, emotional triggers. We're being trained away from
- 11:16the deep, sustained, sometimes difficult engagement the
- 11:19Scripture requires for real maturity.
- 11:21Our attention spans are shot. And think about it.
- 11:24For many people, algorithms and platforms are catechizing them
- 11:27for more hours per week than their pastors or elders, or
- 11:29shepherding them. The external noise is drowning
- 11:32out the signal needed for deep growth.
- 11:33Wow, catechized by algorithms? That's a sobering thought.
- 11:37OK, what's the third cluster? The lure of mystical shortcuts.
- 11:41This is the desire for spiritual depth without the necessary
- 11:45discipline. What does that look like
- 11:46practically? It's the constant hunger for
- 11:48fresh words, personal prophecies, impressionistic
- 11:52guidance, following platform personalities who seem to have a
- 11:56Direct Line to God, anything that bypasses the hard work of
- 12:01studying and obeying the written word.
- 12:03Looking for a spiritual life hack instead of putting in the
- 12:05reps at the gym? Exactly.
- 12:07It's subtly displaces the sufficiency of Scripture and the
- 12:11necessity of the ordinary means of grace.
- 12:13Preaching, sacraments, prayer, fellowship, discipline, reading.
- 12:16People want the charismatic flash, the instant download of
- 12:19maturity, rather than the steady, sometimes unglamorous
- 12:23work in the gymnasium. So unskilled because we're
- 12:26indolent and modern life offers 1000 ways to justify or even
- 12:30celebrate that indolence. Powerful diagnosis.
- 12:33But Hebrews doesn't leave us there, does it?
- 12:34Verse 14 offers the cure. Section 3.
- 12:37Training the faculties by habit. Right, the diagnosis is sharp,
- 12:40but the prescription is clear. The difference between the
- 12:42infant and the mature Telios comes down to training.
- 12:46Let's talk about that goal. Maturity, Telios.
- 12:50What does that word really convey?
- 12:52It carries this sense of being complete, finished, brought to
- 12:56the intended goal. It's teleological.
- 12:59The mature Christian is the one functioning as God designed,
- 13:02equipped for the tasks of the faith.
- 13:05It's the opposite of stunted infancy.
- 13:07It's scripture shaped competence.
- 13:09Competence achieved How? Let's break down the mechanism
- 13:13in verse 14. The sources highlight a cluster
- 13:15of Greek words here that are like a training manual.
- 13:18Absolutely, he says. Solid food is for the mature,
- 13:20for those who have their faculties trained by habit to
- 13:24discern decreases good and evil, four key terms.
- 13:28OK, first a toasteria, the faculties.
- 13:30What are these? It's used metaphorically here.
- 13:32Think of your moral and spiritual senses, your capacity
- 13:35for perception, judgement, understanding spiritual
- 13:38realities. It's the internal equipment you
- 13:41use to navigate the world. So we need to train our
- 13:43spiritual taste buds our ability to recognize truth from error,
- 13:47good from evil. Precisely.
- 13:49And how are they trained? The next word, Lomas Mina
- 13:53trained. This word is crucial.
- 13:56It's a perfect passive participle, meaning the perfect
- 13:59tense indicates a completed action with ongoing results.
- 14:04The training has happened and it has produced a lasting state and
- 14:08abiding condition, and the root word evokes the gymnasium.
- 14:12The place of exercise, discipline, hard work like an
- 14:15athlete, training. Exactly.
- 14:17This isn't about passively receiving insight.
- 14:20It's about rigorous, repeated exercise that builds strength
- 14:23and skill. It results in a permanent change
- 14:25in your moral muscle memory. The sources link this to Hebrews
- 14:2812.1. God's discipline, though
- 14:30painful, yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those
- 14:33who've been trained by it. Same idea.
- 14:35OK, so training produces A lasting state.
- 14:37What's the third word? Hexis habit.
- 14:39Hexis. This is maybe the most technical
- 14:41term here. It refers to an acquired stable
- 14:44disposition or a state. It's not just doing something
- 14:46repeatedly, it's the settled character or skill that results
- 14:50from that repetition. So it's like second nature,
- 14:52something deeply ingrained. That's a great way to put it.
- 14:55Hexis is the durable capacity formed by practice.
- 14:59Through repeatedly engaging with Scripture, hearing it, studying
- 15:02it, meditating on it, obeying it, you develop a stable ability
- 15:06to see things as God sees them, to judge rightly.
- 15:10Can we use that apprenticeship analogy here?
- 15:12Absolutely. Think of a master Craftsman, a
- 15:15Carpenter, maybe an apprentice. Might know the theory, might
- 15:18have read the manuals. But the master Carpenter has
- 15:20Hexus. He just knows the wood right by
- 15:23touch, by sight. He doesn't have to consciously
- 15:25run through a checklist every time.
- 15:27His skill is ingrained from thousands of hours of practice.
- 15:30Exactly. His faculties, his senses, his
- 15:33judgement have been trained by habit.
- 15:35Hexus, through constant discipline, work with materials
- 15:38under the master's eye. That's the picture for the
- 15:41mature Christian handling the word of righteousness.
- 15:44Raw intuition gets transformed into reliable skill.
- 15:46The immature person reacts to ethical pressure with feelings
- 15:49or guesswork. The mature person operating from
- 15:52Hexus responds with the internalized patterns of
- 15:54Scripture. OK, faculties trained by habit.
- 15:58And what is the specific goal, the telos of all this training,
- 16:02the final word in that cluster? The goal is decreases
- 16:05discernment, specifically the ability to distinguish both good
- 16:10and evil. Distinguish not just know the
- 16:13difference in theory, but be able to sort it out in practice.
- 16:16Yes, this is tested judgment. It's the ability to make fine
- 16:20distinctions, to see nuances, to choose the truly good path,
- 16:23especially in those Gray areas where the choice isn't obvious.
- 16:26And crucially, this discernment is formed by the Word through
- 16:30that process of training and habit.
- 16:32It's not a mystical hunch or a shortcut.
- 16:34It's competence earned through discipline.
- 16:37So the mature believer doesn't just have Scripture memorized,
- 16:40they haven't metabolized. It's become part of their
- 16:42operating system, shaping their perceptions and judgments
- 16:45instinctively and reliably. Well put.
- 16:47Metabolize is a good word for it.
- 16:49OK, so that's the mechanism. Training the spiritual senses
- 16:52through the habitual application of God's Word leads to mature
- 16:55discernment. Brings us to Section 4, the
- 16:58practical road map. If maturity comes through
- 17:01training and habit, we need to know what the workout looks
- 17:03like. How do we actually do this?
- 17:05This is where we need concrete steps, the reps for the
- 17:08spiritual gym, right? Theory is one thing, practice is
- 17:11another. The cure requires concrete,
- 17:14measurable practices. It's about committing to that
- 17:16long obedience in the same direction, primarily through the
- 17:20ordinary means of grace. No shortcuts, just faithful
- 17:24reps. Let's start with the individual
- 17:26believer. What are the daily or weekly
- 17:28reps that build this Hexus, the spiritual skill?
- 17:31Foundational is consistent daily scripture intake, not just
- 17:35reading passively, but meditation, wrestling with the
- 17:37text, asking how it applies, followed by prayer shaped by
- 17:41that word, seeking grace to obey and looking for opportunities
- 17:44for witness. How can we make that intake more
- 17:46focused, less random? One practical tip is anchoring
- 17:49your personal reading plan in the church's public ministry.
- 17:53Study and meditate on the passage.
- 17:55Preach the previous Lord's Day. That creates synergy.
- 17:59Hearing it proclaimed, then digging into it yourself,
- 18:01preparing your heart for the next Lord's Day.
- 18:04It provides structure. OK, intake, meditation, prayer,
- 18:08obedience. But how do we specifically train
- 18:11discernment that decisis? This is where the practice of
- 18:14discernment journaling comes in. It sounds simple maybe, but it's
- 18:17a powerful tool for forcing yourself to move from vague
- 18:20impressions to scripture based judgement.
- 18:23What does that look like? The idea is to regularly, say
- 18:25weekly record 2 real decisions you faced.
- 18:28Not necessarily huge moral dilemmas, but situations where
- 18:31you had to choose between options.
- 18:32Maybe good versus better or wise versus unwise.
- 18:36Can you give an example? Let's take that young
- 18:38professional again, the one considering the ethically Gray
- 18:41investment we mentioned earlier. How does the Journal help train
- 18:44discernment there? OK, so the immature response is
- 18:47just is it legal? Yes.
- 18:49OK, I want the money. The Journal forces more step
- 18:53one. Record the decision.
- 18:55Option A Invest in flashy startup with questionable
- 18:58marketing. Option B Invest in a less
- 19:00profitable but ethically sound venture.
- 19:02Step 2 Alternatives weighed go beyond just legality, right?
- 19:07Ask is it beneficial? Course of course 6.12 Does this
- 19:11use of capital align with Kingdom values?
- 19:13Am I potentially profiting from something that exploits others
- 19:16weaknesses? What's the long term impact on
- 19:18my own character? Step three.
- 19:19Scripture used. What specific texts did you
- 19:22consult maybe? Proverb 16.8 Better is a little
- 19:25with righteousness than great revenues with injustice or
- 19:28Philippines. 4.8 Whatever is true, honorable, just pure,
- 19:31lovely, commendable. Think about these things.
- 19:34You write down the passages you actually used to think it
- 19:35through. And the crucial Step 4 why one
- 19:38path was judged good and the other evil, or less good or
- 19:42unwise? Exactly, you have to articulate
- 19:44the reasoning based on scripture so the journal might conclude
- 19:48investment a while legal risks partnership with unethical
- 19:52practices and prioritizes profit over principle.
- 19:55Training my heart toward greed. Evil.
- 19:57For me, Investment B aligns better with justice and
- 20:01stewardship, training my heart toward righteousness.
- 20:03Good even with lower financial return.
- 20:06This forces you to connect belief to behavior via the word
- 20:10it. Bill, Texas.
- 20:12That definitely makes it concrete and moves beyond just
- 20:14feelings. What about applying the Sunday
- 20:16sermon? How do we make that more than
- 20:18just a nice thought for an hour? We need accountable obedience.
- 20:22A practical discipline is to follow up every sermon by
- 20:24identifying 2 concrete actions you will attempt to take based
- 20:27on the message and one person you can share the main point
- 20:29with. Two actions, one person.
- 20:30Why? The actions move you from
- 20:33hearing to doing. The one person reinforces
- 20:36understanding and fulfills that Hebrews 5.11 obligation.
- 20:40Can you pass on even the basics you just heard?
- 20:42You can't articulate it simply to someone else.
- 20:44You probably haven't digested it yourself.
- 20:46It combats passive listening. Another individual practice you
- 20:49mentioned was self-assessment. Yes, periodically, maybe
- 20:52quarterly taking stock. Ask yourself concrete doctrinal
- 20:56and practical questions. Not am I growing which is vague
- 21:00but specific things. Like what?
- 21:02Like, can I explain the doctrine of the Trinity accurately in
- 21:05simple terms? Can I articulate the gospel
- 21:07clearly, including repentance and faith?
- 21:10Can I explain from Scripture why Christ's humanity is essential
- 21:13for my salvation? Can I show from Hebrews how
- 21:17Christ's priesthood gives me confidence to approach God?
- 21:21This tests actual confidence. Let's apply this train judgement
- 21:25idea to digital habits. Again, that area feels so
- 21:27ambiguous for many people. It is, and the unskilled
- 21:30response is often minimalist. Well, scrolling Instagram for
- 21:33hours isn't explicitly forbidden in the Bible.
- 21:35So it's not technically a sin. Train judgement, The fruit of
- 21:39hexes goes deeper. It asks OK, it might be lawful,
- 21:43but is it beneficial? First Course 6.12 Does this
- 21:47habit build me up in faith, hope, and love?
- 21:50Or does it tear me down, make me anxious, envious, discontented?
- 21:54First Core 10.23 Does it help me redeem the time to have 5.6 sin
- 21:59or does it steal time from prayer, service and fellowship?
- 22:02So the discernment isn't just about avoiding clear sin, but
- 22:05choosing the truly good and beneficial.
- 22:07Exactly. And the concrete practice flows
- 22:09from that Discernment maybe means setting strict time
- 22:12limits, time fences. Maybe it means a regular Sabbath
- 22:15from screens. Maybe it means unfollowing
- 22:17accounts that consistently stir up discontent or worldiness.
- 22:20You treat it as a spiritual. Discipline and you measure the
- 22:23fruit, yes. Does this lead to greater
- 22:25self-control? More focused prayer?
- 22:27Better conversations? Increased love for God and
- 22:29neighbor? If a habit, even a neutral 1,
- 22:32consistently produces bad fruit in you, then for you it falls
- 22:35into the category of evil or unwise that needs to be
- 22:38addressed. That's decreases applied.
- 22:40OK, these individual disciplines are crucial, but the author of
- 22:44Hebrews was writing to a community.
- 22:47The church itself must play a role in this training, right?
- 22:50It can't just be individuals working out alone.
- 22:52Absolutely essential. The church isn't just a
- 22:54collection of individuals, it's the primary gymnasium where this
- 22:58training is meant to happen. Leaders have a responsibility to
- 23:01engineer a pipeline for maturity.
- 23:04A pipeline? What do you mean?
- 23:05A structured approach that intentionally moves people from
- 23:08foundational understanding through deeper doctrine into
- 23:11skilled practice and ultimately toward being able to teach
- 23:14others. It combats that stagnation
- 23:17Hebrews warns about. Where does that pipeline start?
- 23:20It starts with the corporate worship, the Lord's Day
- 23:22gathering. The spiritual diet needs to be
- 23:24solid. Worship must be ordered by
- 23:26Scripture. The central element has to be
- 23:28robust expository preaching that doesn't just inform but
- 23:32catechizes the imagination, consistently feeding the flock
- 23:35the pure Word, explaining it clearly and applying it
- 23:39pointedly. So week after week, the
- 23:40congregation is immersed in the text, learning how to think
- 23:43biblically. Yes, the liturgy itself should
- 23:46rehearse the great truths, law and gospel, confession and
- 23:50assurance, training the spiritual senses of the
- 23:51community. But beyond Sunday morning, there
- 23:54needs to be structured catechesis.
- 23:56Going beyond the sermon. Yes, we can't leave confidence
- 23:59to chance. The sources suggest clear stages
- 24:02with measurable thresholds, for example Doctrine cohorts.
- 24:06What would that involve? Maybe a year long small group
- 24:09working systematically through a solid confection or catechism
- 24:13like the Westminster Shorter Catechism.
- 24:15But the key is the measurable threshold.
- 24:18Not just showing up, but demonstrating understanding.
- 24:20Right. Requiring something like 6070%
- 24:23mastery, measured not just by quizzes, but by things like oral
- 24:27exams or short essays explaining key doctrines.
- 24:30Oral exams. Why?
- 24:31Because they test articulation. Can you actually explain this
- 24:34truth clearly to someone else? That directly addresses the
- 24:37Hebrews 5.12 expectation of being able to teach.
- 24:40It forces competence beyond just passive reception.
- 24:43OK. After doctrinal grounding,
- 24:45what's next in the pipeline? Ethics labs These groups would
- 24:49focus specifically on applying doctrine to life, working
- 24:53through case studies on things like money, work, family,
- 24:55speech, sexuality, using scripture to develop practical
- 24:59wisdom. And this is where the
- 25:00Discernment Journal would fit in corporately.
- 25:02Exactly. These labs could require the
- 25:05weekly discernment journal with peer feedback and
- 25:08accountability. This brings the individual
- 25:10training into the community, sharpening one another.
- 25:13It ensures Hexus is being built for the marketplace, not just
- 25:16the classroom. And the final stage.
- 25:18The teaching track This is intentionally developing those
- 25:21who show aptitude and character to lead others, fulfilling
- 25:25Second Timothy 2.2 and trusting the truth to faithful people who
- 25:29will be able to teach others also.
- 25:31So leadership in things like small groups wouldn't just be
- 25:33based on who's been around longest or who is outgoing.
- 25:36No, it should be gated based on demonstrated observable skill
- 25:40and handling the word accurately and wisely, and evidence of
- 25:44mature Christian character. Competence becomes the
- 25:47prerequisite for leadership. This pipeline structure makes
- 25:50sense. What about Church discipline and
- 25:52the sacraments and fostering maturity?
- 25:54They are vital parts, parts of the gymnasium.
- 25:56The church needs to practice both formative discipline,
- 25:59teaching, exhortation, warning, and when necessary, corrective
- 26:03discipline, always aiming for restoration and, as Hebrews 12
- 26:07says, the peaceful fruit of righteousness.
- 26:10Discipline upholds the seriousness of sin and the
- 26:13necessity of growth. And the Lord's Supper.
- 26:15The table needs to be carefully fenced.
- 26:17This means clear pastoral instruction beforehand,
- 26:20exhorting members to examine themselves based on Scripture
- 26:23first. Core 11 Are they trusting in
- 26:25Christ? Are they repenting of known sin?
- 26:27Are they living in love and peace with their brothers and
- 26:29sisters? So the sacrament itself becomes
- 26:31an opportunity for self-assessment and recommitment
- 26:33to growth. Yes, it reinforces that
- 26:36participation of the covenant community involves ongoing
- 26:39repentance, faith, and the pursuit of holiness.
- 26:42All these structures, preaching, cohorts, labs, leadership,
- 26:45training, discipline, sacraments work together to intentionally
- 26:48cultivate maturity. This is thorough.
- 26:51It sounds demanding. And that word discipline, the
- 26:53idea of measurable thresholds, gated leadership.
- 26:57It inevitably raises the flag of legalism for some listeners.
- 27:00Understandably so. How do we pursue all this
- 27:03rigorous training without falling into the trap of
- 27:05thinking our effort earns God's favor or makes us acceptable?
- 27:09That seems like the opposite of the word of righteousness, which
- 27:12is rooted in grace. This takes us to Section 5,
- 27:15Maturity and the finished work of Christ.
- 27:18This connection is absolutely critical.
- 27:20If we disconnect the call to maturity from the gospel of
- 27:23grace, we create either crushing legalism or arrogant self
- 27:27righteousness. We must anchor the effort in the
- 27:29right place. So first, why pursue the solid
- 27:33food, the deeper doctrines like Melchizedek?
- 27:36What's the point? The point is to develop the
- 27:38capacity to fully grasp and rest in the glories of Christ's work,
- 27:43understanding his perfect priesthood, his once for all
- 27:46sacrifice, his ongoing intercession.
- 27:48This isn't just theological trivia.
- 27:50It's the bedrock of our assurance, our perseverance, our
- 27:52motivation for holiness. So moving from milk to meat
- 27:56isn't about getting new information outside the Bible.
- 27:58Not at all. The candidate is closed.
- 27:59It's about developing the digestive strength, the trained
- 28:02spiritual senses Hexus, to properly appreciate and live by
- 28:06the profound truths already revealed in the Bible.
- 28:08Precisely, And the motivation for developing that strength
- 28:12cannot be earning God's love. The sources are crystal clear.
- 28:16This pursuit of maturity neither grounds our acceptance before
- 28:19God, nor does it give license to laziness, antinomian
- 28:23complacency. Our standing with God, our
- 28:25justification, rests 100% on. The finished priestly work of
- 28:30Jesus Christ Hebrews hammers his home relentlessly.
- 28:33He offered one sacrifice for sins for all time.
- 28:36He 10 point wealth by that one offering.
- 28:40He is perfected for all time those who are being sanctified.
- 28:43He 10.1 friend acceptance is based entirely on his work
- 28:47received by faith. So the effort, the discipline,
- 28:50the pursuit of maturity, why do it?
- 28:52We pursue maturity because we are already loved, accepted,
- 28:55adopted children. It's a response of gratitude.
- 28:58It's learning to live out the righteousness we've already been
- 29:00given in. Christ is being trained in
- 29:02righteousness, as Paul tells Timothy, so we can be equipped
- 29:05for every good work. Discipline flows from assurance.
- 29:08It doesn't create it. That flips the script for many
- 29:10people. We don't work for Assurance, we
- 29:11work from Assurance. Exactly.
- 29:13Let's use that doctrinal case study.
- 29:15Christ intercession. This is real meat.
- 29:17How does understanding this deeply help the believer
- 29:20practically? Well, think about how many
- 29:22Christians live day-to-day. Their confidence in approaching
- 29:25God. Their sense of acceptance, often
- 29:27fluctuates wildly based on their performance.
- 29:30Did I have a good quiet time today?
- 29:32Was I patient with the kids? Did I resist that temptation?
- 29:36Their access feels conditional. Or maybe they look for other
- 29:39mediators, right? Praying to Saints or desperately
- 29:42seeking a fresh word because they don't feel confident Christ
- 29:44alone is enough or hears them. Yes, but trained discernment
- 29:48grounded in the solid food of Hebrews 7 rejects those
- 29:52impulses. Why?
- 29:53Because it rests in the staggering truth that Christ
- 29:56always lives to make intercession for us, Heeb 7.25.
- 30:00He is perpetually in the Father's presence on our behalf,
- 30:03Heeb 9.24. His advocacy doesn't depend on
- 30:06our good days or bad days. Wow, that's incredibly
- 30:09stabilizing. It is this deep doctrine.
- 30:11The Melchizedekian meat is an abstract.
- 30:14It produces profound ethical fruit.
- 30:16It fuels confident prayer, knowing our access is secured by
- 30:19him. It provides stable assurance
- 30:21rooted in his unchanging priesthood, not our fluctuating
- 30:24feelings or performance. And it changes how we fight sin.
- 30:27Absolutely, it gives renewed vigor to fight sin from a
- 30:30position of security and acceptance, not for acceptance.
- 30:35We know the same High Priest who pleads our case also sympathizes
- 30:38with our weaknesses, and provides mercy and fine grace to
- 30:41help in time of need. Heed 4.1 C&C first one one beat.
- 30:46We fight sin knowing we have a sympathetic and effective
- 30:48advocate. So the call to maturity, the
- 30:50conclusion of the cure, isn't a burdensome command to try harder
- 30:54in our own strength. No, it's a gracious summons to
- 30:57press on Hebrews 6.1 to grow up into the fullness of the
- 31:01salvation. Christ is already secured.
- 31:04It's a call to take up the tools He provides, His Word, His
- 31:06Spirit, His Church, and engage in the training that allows us
- 31:09to fully enjoy and live out our inheritance in Him.
- 31:12To submit our instincts, our feelings, our judgments to
- 31:15Scripture until we learn by habit to distinguish good from
- 31:19evil clearly. That's the goal.
- 31:21Tested judgment formed by the Word.
- 31:23Practicing community motivated by the Gospel.
- 31:26We've covered a huge amount today from that stinging rebuke
- 31:29about Arrested Development in Hebrews 5.
- 31:31To the diagnosis of being unskilled in the word due to due
- 31:34to lack of practice. Through the cure involving
- 31:36training our spiritual faculties by habit.
- 31:39To the practical steps for individuals and churches to
- 31:41build that competence. And finally, anchoring all that
- 31:44effort firmly in the finished work of Christ our High Priest.
- 31:48So the big take away, Christian maturity isn't mystical or
- 31:51automatic. It's the durable capacity to see
- 31:55reality as God sees it. A capacity achieved through
- 31:59Spirit enabled word mediated habituation.
- 32:03It's the opposite of being an unskilled infant.
- 32:05Which brings us back to that initial challenge from Hebrews.
- 32:08The time you've spent under the truth creates a certain
- 32:11obligation, a reasonable expectation for growth.
- 32:13Which leads to our final thought for you, the listener, a
- 32:16challenge to reflect on. If you were to keep that
- 32:19discernment journal for this past week, what would it reveal?
- 32:22Forget the big dramatic sins for a moment.
- 32:24Look at the everyday choices. How you spent your time online,
- 32:27how you responded to that annoying Co worker, how you
- 32:30managed your money, how you spoke to your family.
- 32:32Are you seeing progress toward that baseline competence?
- 32:36Hebrews expects the ability to handle the word skillfully, to
- 32:39pass on the basics, to make wise, godly judgments.
- 32:43Or are you maybe still circling back to the alphabet more often
- 32:47than you realize, still needing the introductory course
- 32:50repeated? The call of Hebrews is clear.
- 32:52Leave the elementary teaching. Press on to maturity.
- 32:56Take up the word not just as information, but as the
- 32:59instrument of your training. Submit to the gymnasium.
- 33:02Because the goal is worth it. The peaceful fruit of
- 33:05righteousness. Yeah, and a deeper, more stable
- 33:07enjoyment of Christ himself. Thank you for joining us for
- 33:10this deep dive on reformed thinking.
- 33:12Until next time.