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Frankie Friday: Taylor Takes On A New Title · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Almost Famous podcast and it Today
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  Speaker 2: is an extra special episode of Frankie Friday because it's
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  Speaker 2: Ashley's birthday. Happy Birthday, Ashley, Happy birthday.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Frankie Friday falls on my birthday. Thank you so
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  Speaker 3: very much.
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  Speaker 2: Let's celebrate you. How are you celebrating?
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  Speaker 4: I one, I think.
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  Speaker 3: I've never had a birthday. I'm not sure hit me
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  Speaker 3: as hard as this one's hitting me.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I think that thirty eight is like undeniably upper thirties,
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  Speaker 3: and it'll be just a blink of an eye until
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  Speaker 3: I'm forty. And I realize that like all the things
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  Speaker 3: that I can still pass as being like cute, like
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  Speaker 3: me and like my fangirl self, maybe I could pass
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  Speaker 3: that off at forty, but like mid forty, like what
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  Speaker 3: like how am I supposed to I'm supposed to fangirl
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  Speaker 3: at forty or I'm just kind of scared that, like
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  Speaker 3: I'm really through adulthood.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, you didn't feel that way when you
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  Speaker 2: had two kids?
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  Speaker 3: No, Because I realized that I've been able to still
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  Speaker 3: indulge in the things that I love.
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  Speaker 4: You're gonna be able to be child like still with
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  Speaker 4: my children.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm just like, oh my god, I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: be forty before you know it, And like, is that
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  Speaker 3: cute anymore?
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  Speaker 2: I have a friend who is forty and a grandmother.
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  Speaker 3: What that's Emily Maynard Like Emily Maynerd's thirty nine in
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  Speaker 3: a grandma?
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  Speaker 2: See, you could be that. Actually, the truth of this is,
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  Speaker 2: I actually think it gets better with age because you
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  Speaker 2: get more confident in your fangirl than and all the
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  Speaker 2: people your fan girling over are like older than you
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  Speaker 2: or about the same age.
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  Speaker 4: That is what I'm so grateful for.
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  Speaker 3: So I was with Carly and Jade this week and
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  Speaker 3: we were like talking about out who are big fans
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  Speaker 3: of or like who our celebrity crushes are and all that,
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  Speaker 3: and they're like, well, at least everybody is of your
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  Speaker 3: age or older.
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  Speaker 4: It's not like you're just like trying to go.
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  Speaker 2: To a Yeah, if you were like telling me I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna have to stop going out till two am, I'd
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  Speaker 2: be like, hey, yeah, that's probably smart, Ashley. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know still how you do that at your age, but
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  Speaker 2: your life.
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  Speaker 3: Mine is kind of all age appropriate because like everything
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  Speaker 3: is very millennial oriented.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not like going after gen Z heroes.
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  Speaker 2: No, you're great, You're you're I feel like you should
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  Speaker 2: like fly into this. And here's the cool part is
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  Speaker 2: you're like when you put on clothes, you're fit. Well
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  Speaker 2: you show up to this. Sometimes I like a T shirt.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, pajamas.
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  Speaker 2: Same here. This was no judgment. I'm saying when you're
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  Speaker 2: when you like your fashion, sins and all those things,
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  Speaker 2: they they will still be rocked at forty. And people
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  Speaker 2: are gonna be like, I like the way she looks
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  Speaker 2: because she's gonna you're gonna keep it a little younger
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  Speaker 2: than you're going to keep it together at forty. And
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  Speaker 2: people are like, I want to look like Ashley when
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  Speaker 2: I'm forty.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I'm not saying that, Like my look is
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  Speaker 3: gonna reflect and still have two more years. And forty
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  Speaker 3: to me is like when I see who's forty these days,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think like, oh my gosh, that person looks old,
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  Speaker 3: like your person feels old. Like I don't even think
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  Speaker 3: forty sounds old really, but for some reason, I think
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  Speaker 3: it's because like I remember my mom's fortieth birthday, like
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  Speaker 3: like I remember exactly what we did, and like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: so when now you're becoming the age that you have
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  Speaker 3: memories of your parents, it's just super duper weird.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that. I still remember that. That
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  Speaker 2: is I'm not far behind. What do you want for
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  Speaker 2: your birthday?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I had a fantastic birthday. I went to New
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  Speaker 3: York for two days with Jade and Carly and we
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  Speaker 3: had the greatest time all I've ever.
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  Speaker 4: Really wanted to do.
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  Speaker 3: Like when people say, like, why do you love New
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  Speaker 3: York and I'm like, well, really, what I love about
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  Speaker 3: it is just going to dinner and a show. So
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  Speaker 3: we went to the three shows in just a little
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  Speaker 3: over twenty four hours.
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  Speaker 4: That was I've never done that before.
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  Speaker 3: It was amazing, and just being able to spend girls
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  Speaker 3: time with them. We had like a sleepover, you know,
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  Speaker 3: for two nights in a row and seeing those show
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  Speaker 3: It's just truly the best birthday party, a birthday party,
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  Speaker 3: birthday gift that I could give myself. I don't have
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  Speaker 3: anything else on the docket, but that's usually what I
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  Speaker 3: like to have, like some sort of show concert.
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  Speaker 4: Like a little mini trip for my birthday.
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  Speaker 2: And that's perfect and so will you celebrate with the
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  Speaker 2: family then on like this weekend, or are you celebrating
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  Speaker 2: today since it is your birthday?
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  Speaker 3: So today is trivia night at Audrey's, so Jared has
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  Speaker 3: to work. But Jared did say vaguely, it was like, so,
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  Speaker 3: do you have any plans for the weekend? And I'm
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  Speaker 3: like no, So my assumption is that he has a
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  Speaker 3: little something planned. It could truly just be like dinner
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  Speaker 3: and like he got a babysitter, which is also very nice,
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  Speaker 3: but I think that he might have a little something.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, the actual day, I don't really have super plans.
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  Speaker 2: I bet his Superman costume comes out. Hey, let's dive
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  Speaker 2: into Frankie Friday. Okay, headline, is this why Taylor Frankie
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  Speaker 2: Paul thinks she was gifted the bachelorette role?
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  Speaker 3: Well, she said to E News that she was gifted
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  Speaker 3: this for another chapter of her life. She said that
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  Speaker 3: she's been criticized and judged and rejected, but anyone that
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  Speaker 3: takes the time to know me will see that I'm
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  Speaker 3: actually a genuine person and I mean well, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: a person that deserves another chance at love. So she
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  Speaker 3: says that this is new to her she's the first person.
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  Speaker 4: She actually ricks a good.
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  Speaker 3: Point here, she's actually the first woman to be the
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  Speaker 3: bachelorette but not come from the franchise. We've had that
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  Speaker 3: with bachelor's before, but not bachelorettes. And she says that
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  Speaker 3: she really admires all the women that stood before her,
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  Speaker 3: but what I would like to she says, it's a gift.
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  Speaker 3: And if we go to our if we go to
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  Speaker 3: one of our headlines further down, or her Mormon Wives
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  Speaker 3: castmates are talking about her, they also kind of described
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  Speaker 3: this as a gift to her as well. That actually
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  Speaker 3: leads us into our next headline, where her castmates Macy
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  Speaker 3: and Michaela were talking about her being crowned the bachelorette.
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  Speaker 3: They actually say that they don't think she was in
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  Speaker 3: a good place, like mentally emotionally to be the bachelorette.
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  Speaker 3: But she said that like they said something along the
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  Speaker 3: lines of she didn't like doesn't love herself enough. At
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  Speaker 3: this point, they said that you know, her relationship is
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  Speaker 3: still kind of like freshly broken and that Dakota is
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  Speaker 3: still so like interwoven in her life. But then they
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  Speaker 3: also say that this is like an into little words,
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  Speaker 3: a gift to her because it broke the cycle of
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  Speaker 3: toxicity that she had going on with Dakota, so like
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  Speaker 3: she almost had to like physically remove herself like from
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  Speaker 3: the state and not see him for a certain amount
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  Speaker 3: of time to you know, start fresh.
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  Speaker 2: I really hope he doesn't show up.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like they may not have him show up.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like I thought, yes, Now I think
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  Speaker 3: maybe no, Maybe they know it's not good for her
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  Speaker 3: mental health and they actually don't want to ruin it exactly.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't. I don't think it's healthy for anybody
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  Speaker 2: involved or would make that great a television because it
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  Speaker 2: would just make people mad that he's back there when
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  Speaker 2: she's trying to pursue one of their you know, favorites.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And and actually he did say on a podcast that
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  Speaker 3: was not on it, so hopefully that's true.
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  Speaker 2: Secret Lives of Mormon Wive star reveals why Taylor Frankie
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  Speaker 2: Paul's trauma may block bachelorette love Ashley, I'll say this
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  Speaker 2: from everything that let's just pause here. Can we pause here? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: We've talked about Taylor Frankie Paul a lot now, which
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  Speaker 2: has been great. It's been a great thing. Frankie Fridays
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  Speaker 2: have been fun. We've got to know her better after
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  Speaker 2: the headlines, her captions, her interviews, the things we've spoken about.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think she finds love during this? Like, do
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  Speaker 2: you think she's hinting at that?
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, not really, I don't really think so.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't have a great feeling. I think that it
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  Speaker 3: might be one of those seasons that's celebrated because she
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  Speaker 3: takes another great step in life, builds confidence, churity, does
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  Speaker 3: break her away from seeing Dakota as her partner. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that she's gonna have like a traditional
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  Speaker 3: happily ever after.
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  Speaker 2: It could be why she's been processing so much.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she seems too stressed to be truly.
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  Speaker 4: In butterfly stage of love.
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  Speaker 3: I agree.
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  Speaker 2: Tasha Adams now the judge co hosts I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what they're calling themselves on the HGTV Show reveals the
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  Speaker 2: advice she gave new Bachelorette star Taylor Frankie Paul.
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  Speaker 4: I like this advice that Taysha gave.
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  Speaker 3: She said, I've told her, you can't look at any
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  Speaker 3: of us for advice, really, because it's all your own journey.
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  Speaker 3: She said that I don't want her to copy any
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  Speaker 3: of us in any way, shape or form. Just give
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  Speaker 3: her your all, being the moment, fall in love and
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  Speaker 3: do your thing. And she said, I really I feel
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  Speaker 3: like she's really gonna shake everything up and it's going
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  Speaker 3: to be exactly what the franchise really needed. I kind
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  Speaker 3: of agree with everything Tasha says there.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with Tasha. You got to make it your own. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but I do think some advice is warranted when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to like, hey, here's how you can expect things
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  Speaker 2: to operate and don't be shocked when you get pulled
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  Speaker 2: into a room like that kind of stuff is helpful,
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  Speaker 2: But for the most part, we want these people being themselves.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're very good at giving future bachelor advice.
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  Speaker 4: You love it. You love it.
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  Speaker 3: You should write a little manual, a bachelor manual. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so you just give each guy a little pamphlet.
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  Speaker 2: Now hasn't happened in years. Probably why the show is,
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  Speaker 2: you know, so downhill exactly. It's all my advice.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, before we go into the next timeline, I just
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  Speaker 3: want to say I forgot to mention one thing that
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  Speaker 3: Macy and Mikayla did say that I think it is interesting.
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  Speaker 3: The advice that they give her is to seek peace
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  Speaker 3: and not revenge, and that success is the best form
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  Speaker 3: of revenge.
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  Speaker 4: I agree with that.
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  Speaker 3: You don't have to get specific revenge on someone, but
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  Speaker 3: if you are successful, you'll feel very satisfied.
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  Speaker 2: It's biblical, right, Yeah, it is. You don't like necessarily
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  Speaker 2: look for vengeance. You just like crush them with love
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  Speaker 2: and kindness. It's like burning Cole's being dumped over their
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  Speaker 2: head of love because they're just like, I can't get
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  Speaker 2: out of this. This person's too great. I just nothing
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  Speaker 2: else bad to say about them. They're crushing it. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not final. Headline is something that changes season on The
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  Speaker 2: Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
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  Speaker 4: The upcoming season.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the upcoming season. I don't know if you
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  Speaker 2: saw this listeners if you're a fan of the show,
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  Speaker 2: But the headline it reads the Secret Lives of Mormon
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  Speaker 2: Wives stars are now executive producers, So.
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  Speaker 4: We don't know what this means.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes it's truly just a title, just a credit. Like
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  Speaker 3: our producer Heather would know more as she is in casting.
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  Speaker 3: For some reason, I feel like this is just a
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  Speaker 3: title for these girls because I don't know that Hulu
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  Speaker 3: wants them in the editing room having control of the storylines.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't know, because I think that they're gonna
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  Speaker 3: try to eliminate some dramas right now, Like the Kardashians
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  Speaker 3: are executive producers on their Hulu show, and like they
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  Speaker 3: actually do make decisions sometimes. Kim has talked about how
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  Speaker 3: sometimes Chris and Courtney you'll be like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 3: we cannot put that in there, and Kim is like.
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  Speaker 4: We are absolutely putting that fight in there.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't know that with a show when it's
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  Speaker 3: not a family oriented reality show, that it's going to
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  Speaker 3: work out if you give them editing control. I do
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  Speaker 3: want to mention before we get how they're on for
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  Speaker 3: her two cents that because the show has been such
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  Speaker 3: a success so quickly it got Emmy nomination. It did
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  Speaker 3: lose to Netflix is Love on the Spectrum, But because
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  Speaker 3: it has been such a huge hit, sometimes they'll renegotiate contracts,
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  Speaker 3: give titles like this, give more money before the actual
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  Speaker 3: the contract is up, Like perhaps they signed for five seasons,
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  Speaker 3: but now at four seasons, they're going to give the
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  Speaker 3: girls a little boost just to say thank you, Heather.
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  Speaker 5: Ashley, You're a pro You don't even need me to
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  Speaker 5: jump in on this one because everything you just said
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  Speaker 5: was what I would say, which is, I do think
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  Speaker 5: it's more of a vanity credit than anything else, and
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  Speaker 5: I do think it also correlates with a bump and pay,
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  Speaker 5: and yes, you're not going to let the talent on
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  Speaker 5: a show like this where also their name is not
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  Speaker 5: in the title, right. I think that's a huge defining
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  Speaker 5: difference between Kardashians and Secret Lives is that is actually
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  Speaker 5: their family name in the title. That is their brand.
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  Speaker 5: Secret Lives of Mormon Wives is a brand that is
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  Speaker 5: owned by Hulu, and they have the ability to change
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  Speaker 5: the talent, and that is also probably something that they
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  Speaker 5: will not have the ability to do as executive producers,
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  Speaker 5: is like fire their castmates. Oh and we're getting a
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  Speaker 5: note here too. If they are EPs, they are award worthy, yes,
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  Speaker 5: so that is another reason so that they can win
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  Speaker 5: some sort of validation if they are nominated again. But
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  Speaker 5: I think we're also seeing this happen in season four
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  Speaker 5: for a reason, and that's because usually between seasons three
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  Speaker 5: and four of hit shows is when you said contracts,
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  Speaker 5: get that renegotiation, and that's where you actually start to
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  Speaker 5: see the real money when being on reality TV.
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  Speaker 3: They're trying to get the girls happy too, like they
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  Speaker 3: want them to stick around for.
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  Speaker 5: One hundred percent. That'll keep you on board if I
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  Speaker 5: say I'm going to also make you an executive producer. Yes,
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  Speaker 5: that is going to get somebody to you resign a contract.
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  Speaker 3: So there's also some speculation that Demi is not a
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  Speaker 3: main cast member this season, that she's more of a
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  Speaker 3: friend of and she is not listed as an EP.
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  Speaker 2: She got the axe.
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  Speaker 5: No, she's appearing on the show. We know that because
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  Speaker 5: she's in the trailer. But yeah, it looks like that
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  Speaker 5: also might have been maybe a carrot being dangled for
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  Speaker 5: the other girls of Hey, you know, how about we
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  Speaker 5: make you guys EPs if you sign on. Since she's
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  Speaker 5: still kind of playing hardball, maybe that was the case
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  Speaker 5: where they were like, we're not going to offer it
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  Speaker 5: to her, but only to you guys. So could be
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  Speaker 5: one of the reasons and something that they used as negotiation.
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  Speaker 4: I love it.
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  Speaker 5: I think it says at the bottom of that article,
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  Speaker 5: exactly how many EPs.
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  Speaker 2: There are of this show?
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  Speaker 5: Now it's a lot and the same thing if you
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  Speaker 5: watch Kardashians, the list of EP credits that roll at
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  Speaker 5: the beginning of the show are very long.
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  Speaker 2: Does it take away from the EP credit?
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  Speaker 5: I think that I think it gives the talent. It's
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  Speaker 5: it helps the talent and the title that they need
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  Speaker 5: so that when they eventually break off and do other
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  Speaker 5: things later on in their career, which they're all bound
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  Speaker 5: to do, it gives them the opportunity to EP their
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  Speaker 5: own shows in the future and put their name behind
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  Speaker 5: something because they've already got this kind of check box already.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think it diminishes the other producers.
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  Speaker 3: No, all right, Heather, Well, thanks for your input there, Ben,
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  Speaker 3: this is a good time.
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  Speaker 4: I'm having a good time with the with the analyzation
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  Speaker 4: of this show.
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  Speaker 3: Yaw, it will be merging with The Bachelor at So guys.
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  Speaker 2: Hold up, hold up, hold up, Happy birth to you?
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  Speaker 2: Have they birth they to you?
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  Speaker 6: Happy birthday, Dear Ashley, Happy birthday to you.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks.
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  Speaker 4: You have a March birthday too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's at the end of the month. Let's not
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  Speaker 2: talk about it. Hey, until next time.
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