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Full Show Podcast: 21 May 2026 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
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  Speaker 1: an early edition with Spark for business technology that keeps
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  Speaker 1: business moving, news talks.
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  Speaker 2: There'd be good morning. It is Thursday, six after five
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  Speaker 2: break to have your company. Mark Mitchell on these prison
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  Speaker 2: guards that have been arrested shortly Mitch mccanna's stateside for
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  Speaker 2: US Cuba looks like it could be kicking off. Biggest
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  Speaker 2: company in the world reports its results today. I will
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  Speaker 2: tell you how you can make a bunch of money.
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  Speaker 2: Don't trust my advice and the EMA on jobs, the agenda.
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  Speaker 2: It is Thursday, the twenty first of May. Posin and
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  Speaker 2: She meeting in Beijing, making out like it's Trump that
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  Speaker 2: is the crazy one.
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  Speaker 3: Not Then bungeeshes what.
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  Speaker 4: The world today is far from peaceful, with unilateralism and
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  Speaker 4: Jeminism causing profound dangers.
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  Speaker 5: You could pay pretty view Russia and China for an
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  Speaker 5: important stabilizing rule on the world stage.
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  Speaker 2: Okay do they now? Let's go to the UK. Star
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  Speaker 2: has done two things on oil. One take a leaf
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  Speaker 2: out of Nichola Willis's and cancel a planned fuel tax hike. Good,
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  Speaker 2: but he's also lifting sanctions on wait for it, Russia
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  Speaker 2: to make sure they don't run out.
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  Speaker 6: He is now choosing to buy dirty Russian oil that
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  Speaker 6: money will be used to fund the killing of Ukrainian soldiers,
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  Speaker 6: isn't he ashamed?
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  Speaker 7: I really think that to misunderstand and misrepresent for this happening.
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  Speaker 1: Really, this is a very serious issue.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought it not untrue? Is that a bowl
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  Speaker 2: rumbles onto the Congo no vaccine doubly.
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  Speaker 8: Joe assays the risk of the epidemic as the high
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  Speaker 8: at the national and regional liberls and law At the
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  Speaker 8: Global LIBYL there are almost six hundred suspected cases in
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  Speaker 8: one hundred and fifty nine suspected this We expect those
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  Speaker 8: numbers to keep increasing.
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  Speaker 2: Now Arsenal have taken home in the Premier League Cup
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  Speaker 2: for the first time in twenty two years. Are they excited?
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  Speaker 2: Yes they are, and there are street parade scheduled for
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  Speaker 2: next week.
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  Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth
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  Speaker 1: analysis this early edition with Ryan Bridge and Spark for
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  Speaker 1: Business Technology that keeps business moving.
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  Speaker 2: US TALKSB. Who TALKSB? It is eight minutes after five.
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  Speaker 2: Great to have your company. Nine two ninety two is
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  Speaker 2: the number to text. Always love to hear from you.
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  Speaker 2: We will speak to the EMA. On the jobs numbers,
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  Speaker 2: there are more positive signs and even though what's happening
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  Speaker 2: over in the Middle East has been affecting confidence here,
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  Speaker 2: the jobs numbers month to month are still looking pretty
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  Speaker 2: good all things considered. Now the bond sell off, we've
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  Speaker 2: been talking about this yesterday. They've taken a brid of
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  Speaker 2: a bit of a breather from the bond sell off.
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  Speaker 2: At the moment, Nasdaq is up overnight. Of course, in
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  Speaker 2: Nvidia is going to be reporting their earnings. That'll be
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  Speaker 2: a big deal. That's just after the closing bell, so
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  Speaker 2: that it will be about eight thirty this morning our time.
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  Speaker 2: So the yields on government bonds in the US, Germany
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  Speaker 2: and Japan have all come down ever so slightly. They're
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  Speaker 2: still high, but ever so slightly. The bonds that have
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  Speaker 2: been sold off across the board in the last couple
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  Speaker 2: of days. Basically they're worried about inflation, and if inflation
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  Speaker 2: ticks up, the central banks will do the interest rates.
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  Speaker 2: That affects the yields. Right by the way, Brent crude
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  Speaker 2: has come down in three percent because a couple of
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  Speaker 2: tankers got through the Strait, two Chinese, one South Korean
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  Speaker 2: they reckon. That's possibly good news. But what I found
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  Speaker 2: interesting overnight. The most interesting thing about this whole oil
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  Speaker 2: situation is that not that you will run out of
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  Speaker 2: petrol or that you will run out of diesel. Sure,
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  Speaker 2: it costs you a bunch more. It costs us a
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  Speaker 2: bunch more when we fill up. But motor oil, you know,
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  Speaker 2: changing your oil in your car. You don't do it
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  Speaker 2: that often, but when you do do it, it's quite important.
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  Speaker 2: You know, things sort of seizes up and falls over
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  Speaker 2: if it doesn't work well. They're kind of ringing their
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  Speaker 2: alarm bells. This is out of America. We're looking at shortages,
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  Speaker 2: says the Independent Loopt Manufacturers Association of America. Never thought
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  Speaker 2: I'd say that those words together are so quickly. We're
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  Speaker 2: looking at shortages. I have no doubt in my mind
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  Speaker 2: it could take a year or so before we see
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  Speaker 2: any relief. So in a normal year, motor oil producers
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  Speaker 2: will put their prices up, but they'll do it sort
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  Speaker 2: of seventy to eighty cents a gallon over there in
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  Speaker 2: the US already this year up five dollars a gallon,
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  Speaker 2: so very expensive already, and they are now worried that
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  Speaker 2: actually they might run out altogether. And then if the
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  Speaker 2: motor oil runs out, then what and Rod was emailing
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  Speaker 2: me about this morning. Good morning, Rod, I know you'll
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  Speaker 2: be listening emailing me about this this morning. What then
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  Speaker 2: all the cars just seize up and just stop working,
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  Speaker 2: don't they? Eleven minutes after five Ryan your news Talks
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  Speaker 2: there B, we will talk to the EMA about the jobs.
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  Speaker 2: I'll give you my little hot tips on Nvidio. They're
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  Speaker 2: reporting today, but we'll do Beef and lamb next.
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  Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Ryan
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  Speaker 1: Bridge and Spuck for business Technology that keeps business moving
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  Speaker 1: News talk 'B.
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  Speaker 2: Five thirteen News Talks said, be so the message to
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  Speaker 2: Trump's supporters and to the message from the MAGA base
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  Speaker 2: via Trump really is don't mess with him. Primaries have
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  Speaker 2: been taking place. Thomas Massey is basically another victim of
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  Speaker 2: Trump's utu. This is a Kentucky congressman lost his primary
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  Speaker 2: and the Trump backed candidate has taken it out. Last
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  Speaker 2: week we had Bill Cassidy, he was a Senator from Louisiana.
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  Speaker 2: He also lost his primary. Basically, they were talking speaking
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  Speaker 2: out against Trump on the War, speaking out against Trump
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  Speaker 2: on Epstein Trump says, you guys are traitors. I am
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  Speaker 2: going to exact revenge. And he has done it, and
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  Speaker 2: the other guy's won, and the other guy is a
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  Speaker 2: yes man. That's the most important thing we need to
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  Speaker 2: know about him.
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  Speaker 6: I won't thank President Trump.
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  Speaker 2: Who's head to watch Smith? Here you go, five pin fourteen,
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Bridge, She's talks there being your research from Beef
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  Speaker 2: and Lamb says we need more incentives for farmers rather
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  Speaker 2: than charging them for emissions. This is to wean them off.
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  Speaker 2: They say. Most markets outside of New Zealand offer incentives
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  Speaker 2: for adopting technology and processes. Kadak and Beef and Lamb
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  Speaker 2: New Zealand chair with us this morning. Good morning, kay, morning, right,
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  Speaker 2: So are you not actually asking for subsidies and incentives here?
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  Speaker 2: Are you?
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  Speaker 9: No?
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  Speaker 10: Look what this report does is it looks at what's
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  Speaker 10: happening in climate change policy with regard to agricultural emissions
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  Speaker 10: across the world. And that's really important because we sell
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  Speaker 10: on a global stage and as you know, recently our
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  Speaker 10: methane targets have been revised and taking we took pricing
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  Speaker 10: of agricultural emissions off the table, and you know that
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  Speaker 10: might have felt like a bit of a backward step,
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  Speaker 10: but actually that just puts us right in line with
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  Speaker 10: what the rest of the world's doing, and that's a
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  Speaker 10: really important thing.
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  Speaker 2: So we have a twenty to fifty target, but we
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  Speaker 2: have no steps to get there, right.
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  Speaker 10: Most of the rest of the world doesn't have agricultural
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  Speaker 10: specific targets. And you know what this also showed is
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  Speaker 10: that internationally, a lot of most countries are looking at
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  Speaker 10: subsidizing their farmers to reach any or you know, incentivizing
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  Speaker 10: their farmers to reach any reduction. Then one's not doing that,
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  Speaker 10: and we're not necessarily calling for that, but we're just
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  Speaker 10: saying that we need to have an eye on what
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  Speaker 10: the rest of the world's doing, and we need to
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  Speaker 10: be smarter and refocus on reduction through efficiency, efficiency gains,
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  Speaker 10: or addressing things like fossil fy ell emissions where we've
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  Speaker 10: actually got the technology to do it easily.
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  Speaker 2: Kate. I know what the climate people are going to
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  Speaker 2: say to you, Kate. They're going to say, well, the
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  Speaker 2: agriculture and missions and using to make up more of
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  Speaker 2: our greenhouse gases like half as opposed to the Aussies
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  Speaker 2: who you've mentioned in this report are on eighteen percent.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, look, I mean absolutely acknowledge that and acknowledge that
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  Speaker 10: we've all got a role to play. But you know,
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  Speaker 10: as I said, there's there are a listing technologies and
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  Speaker 10: ways to address things like fossil fy on emissions, and
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  Speaker 10: we should focus on that and look while we sort
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  Speaker 10: of play catch up and find out what we in
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  Speaker 10: the agriculture space. But look, as I said before, we
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  Speaker 10: compete globally, we sell our products globally. We've got to
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  Speaker 10: have an eye to what the rest of the world
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  Speaker 10: is doing about emissions from food production. And we can't
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  Speaker 10: lose sight of the fact that actually we are a
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  Speaker 10: food producing nation.
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  Speaker 2: Kain Eckland Beef and Land, New Zealand share good TV
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  Speaker 2: on the show this morning sixteen after five. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the murdochs Hare's a great Netflix stocko on at the
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  Speaker 2: moment about the Murdoch family and I highly encourage you
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  Speaker 2: to go and watch it because it's all about the
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  Speaker 2: settlement and which they've now had. So James Murdoch and
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  Speaker 2: the siblings got about one billion each and the control
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  Speaker 2: of the empire was handed over to the elders to Lachlin. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: one of the younger ones, James has gone ahead and
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  Speaker 2: spent some of his inheritance. Three hundred million dollars is
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  Speaker 2: by some Vox Media assets, including the New York magazine
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  Speaker 2: which his dad once owned. And it's interesting he says here,
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  Speaker 2: I am not going to acquire a daily news business.
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  Speaker 2: I want longer form, thoughtful journalism that can speak to
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  Speaker 2: the culture. So three hundred million dollars, basically that's half
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  Speaker 2: of Vox's assets, including some of those magazines like the
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  Speaker 2: ones that dad used to own. Seventeen Minutes After five
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  Speaker 2: Jobs from Seat Next.
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  Speaker 1: On Your Radio and online on iHeartRadio, Belly Edition with
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge, and Spark for Business Technology that keeps business
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  Speaker 1: moving News Talk ZB five twenty.
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  Speaker 2: So we have a by election date. It is June
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  Speaker 2: eighteenth for make Field. This is the one that will
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  Speaker 2: get Burnham into Parliament so he can then challenge for
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  Speaker 2: the leadership with Streeting. On the other hand, he is
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  Speaker 2: the arguably right contender in the Labor Party. He's talking
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  Speaker 2: about nationalism, trying to take it to reform.
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  Speaker 4: I left the government because we are in the fight
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  Speaker 4: of our lives against nationalism and it is a fight
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  Speaker 4: that we are currently losing. A reminder that a bigger
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  Speaker 4: and better politics is possible when people have courage. That
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  Speaker 4: is why we must reject the politics that tries for
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  Speaker 4: divide us, whether it's dividing the countries of the United
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  Speaker 4: Kingdom or the people who call Britain their.
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  Speaker 2: Home and blah blah blah. Practically no one listening. Brian
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  Speaker 2: Bridge seek employment data out today. This is job adds April.
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  Speaker 2: Job ads up zero point eight percent month on month,
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  Speaker 2: thirteen percent year on year. Number of applicants per job
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  Speaker 2: down slightly one point six percent from March to April.
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  Speaker 2: Ellen McDonald m a head of advocacy and strategy, is
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  Speaker 2: with us this morning. Ellen, Good morning morning. Right, So
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  Speaker 2: do we take these with a grain of salt given
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  Speaker 2: how the sort of low base we've been coming off.
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  Speaker 9: Well, I think it's slightly encouraging that the number of
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  Speaker 9: edges up. But I looked at that year on year figure,
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  Speaker 9: which is over thirteen percent, and I thought, well, let's
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  Speaker 9: have a look at last year. So April one, last
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  Speaker 9: year year, and it doesn't seem like a year ago.
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  Speaker 9: But that was when mister Trump announced as tariffs. That
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  Speaker 9: was the big day for that, and unemployment was at
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  Speaker 9: five point one. It's at five point four now and
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  Speaker 9: business confidence dropped about ten points in that month, So yeah,
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  Speaker 9: a month if you look at that year on year
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  Speaker 9: for April last year was a pretty rugged year, although
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  Speaker 9: April this year is not a heck a lot better
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  Speaker 9: given that we're in that fuel crisis as well, so
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  Speaker 9: it's slightly encouraging. I guess that those job numbers have
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  Speaker 9: held up a bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. My sense is that businesses are kind of getting
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  Speaker 2: used to the knocks, and you know, if you sat
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  Speaker 2: around and waited all day for a perfect condition to
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  Speaker 2: hire somebody, you'd probably actually never hire anyone at the moment.
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  Speaker 9: I think that's been the case for a little while. So,
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  Speaker 9: but don't forget too that there was some prettig encouraging
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  Speaker 9: and pretty strong signs pre the fuel crisis. This is
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  Speaker 9: just the latest knock and some of those sectors in
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  Speaker 9: the air, you know, they were going quite strongly, and
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  Speaker 9: our exports set still is going strongly, So there's some
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  Speaker 9: underpinning things I think holding those numbers up.
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  Speaker 2: What about AI. This mentions that we've at a doubling
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  Speaker 2: and the mentioning of AI and job ads. Are we
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  Speaker 2: embracing it in the way that we should be? Are
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  Speaker 2: we training the kids to use it in the way
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  Speaker 2: that they should be so they can come into new jobs.
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  Speaker 9: I think AI. It's not a surprise AI is developing
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  Speaker 9: so rapidly. I think the biggest problem is, or the
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  Speaker 9: biggest issue facing businesses is because it's moving so fast,
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  Speaker 9: how do they actually get their heads around it and
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  Speaker 9: then apply it to their businesses. Some of the changes
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  Speaker 9: we're seeing and just the ability of AI. It's talking
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  Speaker 9: to a group of people who specialize in this stuff,
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  Speaker 9: and there's an international test that was developed by one
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  Speaker 9: hundred and fifty PhDs an area specialists. It's twenty five
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  Speaker 9: hundred questions. Nine months ago, a human being was answering
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  Speaker 9: one percent of those questions and AI was answering one
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  Speaker 9: point seven That number now for AI is nearly seventy percent.
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  Speaker 9: That's the strides that it's making and teaching itself. So
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  Speaker 9: how you apply some of that to your business is
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  Speaker 9: the issue.
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  Speaker 2: Allen job Ads, you mentioned we were down in the
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  Speaker 2: dumps last April. Yes, we're up thirteen percent. When do
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  Speaker 2: you think we're going to see hiring sprees happening?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 9: I don't think we'll see a hiring spree ryot. I
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  Speaker 9: think once we get some kind of final resolution out
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  Speaker 9: of the straits of formos in Iran. Well, if we
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  Speaker 9: are going to get one of those, then I think
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  Speaker 9: you'll see some incremental growth. It won't be a hockey stick,
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  Speaker 9: but you know, we're all looking for some steadiness and
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  Speaker 9: some stability in the setting so that we can start
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  Speaker 9: getting on with some things. But it is encouraging that
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  Speaker 9: that data is holding up a little bit in terms
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  Speaker 9: of hiring.
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  Speaker 2: Ellen good stuff, Allen McDonald's Employees Manufactures Association, twenty four
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  Speaker 2: minutes after five Ryan bred This week in Las Vegas.
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  Speaker 2: It's Memorial Day weekend in the United States. Forty athletes
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  Speaker 2: taking part in not the Olympics, not the Commonwealth Games,
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  Speaker 2: but the Enhanced Games. This is where everyone's on drugs.
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  Speaker 2: Well not everyone. Actually you don't have to be. You
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  Speaker 2: can decide whether you're on performance enhancing drugs or not.
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  Speaker 2: But the prize pool I was reading about this morning.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, if you want to be involved with
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  Speaker 2: World Aquatics, they've got a new rule that says anyone
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  Speaker 2: involved with World Aquatics or who wants to be involved
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  Speaker 2: with World Aquatics can have nothing to do with the
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  Speaker 2: Enhanced Games because they don't want it all to be tainted.
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  Speaker 2: But the prize pool total prize pool, forty athletes, twenty
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  Speaker 2: five million dollars is up for grabs. For every sprint
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  Speaker 2: world record over fifty meter freestyle in the pool and
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  Speaker 2: one hundred meters sprint on the track, one million dollars
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  Speaker 2: is your prize. Winners of each event get two hundred
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  Speaker 2: and fifty thousand dollars, So not bad. Twenty five after five,
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  Speaker 2: more on AI jobs. Next the Early.
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  Speaker 1: Edition Show podcast on IHARM Radio powered by.
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  Speaker 2: Newstalksb NEWSB twenty seven after five, The AI and robot
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  Speaker 2: takeover thing isn't coming. It's actually here, well sort of here.
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  Speaker 2: Bunch of stats and data coming out on this at
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  Speaker 2: the moment. So six job ads mentioning AI doubled in
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  Speaker 2: the past year, up four point one percent month to month.
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  Speaker 2: Nikola Willis, you would have heard this yesterday, reckons that
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  Speaker 2: AI is going to help shave nine thousand jobs off
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  Speaker 2: the public service in the next four years. Meta Facebook,
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  Speaker 2: they have this morning started firing ten percent of their workforce,
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  Speaker 2: around eight thousand workers in the first round, to make
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  Speaker 2: way for you guessed it. AI. The workers are so
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  Speaker 2: brassed off about this. A bunch of them are actually
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  Speaker 2: signing petitions demanding that Zuckerberg not collect their computer use data.
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  Speaker 2: So anything they're doing on their laptops, on their work
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  Speaker 2: laptops has been collected. That data is being used to
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  Speaker 2: train the AI models that will replace them. Their work
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  Speaker 2: is basically being copy pasted into a bot that will
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  Speaker 2: get rid of them. So a petition, let's be real,
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  Speaker 2: not going to stop this. Nothing will stop business becoming
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  Speaker 2: more efficient. It's what business does. Resistance is in this
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  Speaker 2: case futile. In some cases, the new technology is being
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  Speaker 2: used to plug gaps rather than create them, which is
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  Speaker 2: an interesting irony of all of this. The new workforce,
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  Speaker 2: which is not human but technology. It works and cuts
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  Speaker 2: both ways. Take China for example. Their problem is not
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  Speaker 2: a shortage of jobs, but of workers. The aging population
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  Speaker 2: and lack of babies is about to hurt their factories.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to lose thirty seven million workers in the
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  Speaker 2: next ten years. That they need that is a few
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  Speaker 2: holes to fill in some mega factories, enter humanoid robots,
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  Speaker 2: robots that sort of act like US. Barclays, the British
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  Speaker 2: Bank reckons sixty percent of those jobs will be performed
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  Speaker 2: by humanoid robots inside the next ten years. Just imagine that. Basically,
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  Speaker 2: there is more charm that your next new colleague will
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  Speaker 2: be a bot or an AI tool, more chance than
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  Speaker 2: ever before. So you either learn to get along and
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  Speaker 2: play nice with them, or they will replace you. Ryan Bridge,
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  Speaker 2: News TALKSB twenty nine minutes after five, we'll do a
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  Speaker 2: little share market update. I'll give you my n video advice.
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  Speaker 2: It's not great advice, Well I'll share it with you anyway.
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  Speaker 2: All of that is coming on News TALKSZB and Mitch
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  Speaker 2: McCann is state side.
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  Speaker 1: Before the news breaks. Here it first, Ryan Bridge on
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  Speaker 1: early edition with Spark for business technology that keeps business moving.
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  Speaker 2: News Talks EDB twenty four away from six. News Talks
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  Speaker 2: VB coming up. Mark Mitchell on these fourteen prison guards
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  Speaker 2: the corrections Folk allegedly on the take. Also, Mitch mccannon
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: state sided for us out of the Big Apple this
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: morning now in video, world's biggest company by market capitalization.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: So it's worth more more than five trillion dollars. How
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: much is five trillion dollars? Honestly, I have no idea.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: It just sounds like a lot of money, doesn't it.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: The CEO he's worth about one hundred and eighty billion
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: dollars last So they're releasing their quarterly results today. And
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: the interesting thing about when they release their quarterly results
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: is what happens to their share price. So people try
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: and play the market, which is there are upsides, there
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: are downsides, And if you look at the average of
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: the last five years, it has averaged a gain of
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: two point six percent the day after the earnings. So
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: the bell goes at around well just after eight this morning,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: and then the results come out after that, so your
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: average is two point six percent gain. But then if
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: you look at the stock move in either direction as
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: high as or as low as six point three percent
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: the day after earnings. The last time they announced results,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: their earnings for the last three quarters were positive. They
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: were beating the analyst forecast, but the stock fell five
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: and a half percent. Now, why does the stop fall
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: five and a half percent when the result is better
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: than what the analyst thought it was going to be
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Because the hype was so big. They had overhyped themselves
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: on the stock market to the point where even though
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: the results were positive and better, the stock price fell.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Graham Bread twenty two minutes away from Sex let's go
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: to Callum and Dunedin. Callum, good morning, good morning, right,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: what's going on? The coroner recommending after a girl's death
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: for injecting painkillers.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the corony isn't urging people to take medications only
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: as directed. After this young woman in Dunedin died from
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: diluting painkillers and injecting them into her bloodstream winter. Heral
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: became short of bread at his South to need and
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: home back in December twenty twenty one and couldn't be revived.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: The twenty year old was using tramadol for long standing
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: health issues and had started injecting the medication forty eight
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: hours before her death. The curenty here, Marianne Borridale, says
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Heral's death is a misadventure fighting Her actions were deliberate,
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: but the outcome accidental. She says it's extremely dangerous to
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: inject any track not intended for that use, and clinical
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: advice that should have been sought.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Oh that's awful. How's your weather?
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: But o rain here this morning, but then clearing again
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: this afternoon. A strong northerly turned cell. We're sixteen the
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: high today.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Thanks Callum. Right, Claire is in Christians this morning. Good morning, Claire,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: good morning. How's the council helping adults get back on bikes?
• 20:30
  Speaker 11: Well, I've actually changed my story on you this morning, Ryan,
• 20:33
  Speaker 11: I'm swopping to give you an update from Wideo up
• 20:36
  Speaker 11: Blenham Way. This is this tragic story. This is the
• 20:39
  Speaker 11: one where an infant was found dead on the roadside
• 20:42
  Speaker 11: in Blenham Now. Police were called to Wido Bar Road
• 20:44
  Speaker 11: on Tuesday afternoon and a scene guard was immediately put
• 20:48
  Speaker 11: in place. In the newsroom, we knew something must have
• 20:50
  Speaker 11: been unusual about this death, but the details have been
• 20:53
  Speaker 11: slow to come to hand. We knew it was a
• 20:55
  Speaker 11: sudden death, but it's now been revealed that police were
• 20:58
  Speaker 11: actually called to the scene near the Iido River by
• 21:01
  Speaker 11: a machinery operator who had discovered the body of a baby.
• 21:04
  Speaker 11: Now Airing A Commander Inspector Simon Felton says officers are
• 21:08
  Speaker 11: continuing to investigate how the baby came to be there.
• 21:11
  Speaker 11: He says they are extremely concerned for the welfare of
• 21:14
  Speaker 11: the infant's family, particularly the infant's mother, and would like
• 21:18
  Speaker 11: to speak to them as soon as possible in order
• 21:20
  Speaker 11: to ensure they're receiving any support they need local ewe
• 21:23
  Speaker 11: at Angitane or Wido has put a vahui in place
• 21:27
  Speaker 11: at the river until.
• 21:28
  Speaker 12: For the notice.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Very sad story. Indeed, hey, I was a little disappointed.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: You're not talking about the bikes. Spending fifteen thousand dollars
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: to teach adults.
• 21:36
  Speaker 11: Can't tell you that as well. Yes, what they've up
• 21:39
  Speaker 11: to the budget. This is a program that's been running
• 21:41
  Speaker 11: for fifteen years for Christ. You're a city council to
• 21:43
  Speaker 11: teach adults how to ride a bike. They're putting another
• 21:45
  Speaker 11: fifteen grand towards it because of the price of fuel.
• 21:49
  Speaker 11: But you do have to be able to sort of
• 21:51
  Speaker 11: stay on two wheels before you're allowed in the program,
• 21:54
  Speaker 11: so it's not for absolute beginners.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: The saying is literally as easy as riding a bike.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Say how's your weather for Christ?
• 22:03
  Speaker 11: Increasing high cloud, there is the chance of some showers,
• 22:05
  Speaker 11: a high of nineteen.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: You enjoy. Thank you, Adam and Wellington morning, Adam morning.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: The latest on Ray Chung?
• 22:11
  Speaker 12: Yeah, it just goes on, doesn't It gets more mysterious
• 22:13
  Speaker 12: as it goes on, I think too. Council at Chung
• 22:15
  Speaker 12: resigned as chair of a council's subcommittee earlier in the week.
• 22:19
  Speaker 12: Now it's understood as conduct towards a police officer is
• 22:21
  Speaker 12: in question from during Wellington's severe weather last month and
• 22:25
  Speaker 12: the search for a man who was swept away in
• 22:27
  Speaker 12: the floodwaters.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Now, Ray Chung.
• 22:29
  Speaker 12: Had previously said he was out searching because police went
• 22:32
  Speaker 12: searching themselves. Now the Herald reports Mayor Andrew Little heard
• 22:35
  Speaker 12: from police Inspector Dean Sylvester about Chung. The mayor considered
• 22:39
  Speaker 12: it to be a complaint. The police officers now saying yes,
• 22:42
  Speaker 12: he spoke to the Mayor but didn't make an official complaint.
• 22:45
  Speaker 12: So Andrew Little went to Ray Chung for a please
• 22:47
  Speaker 12: explain he drafted up a code of conduct for a ferral.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: It all became a bit.
• 22:51
  Speaker 12: Complicated, though, when Chung decided to lawyer up Andrew Little
• 22:55
  Speaker 12: now refusing to clarify what's actually led to Chung stepping
• 22:58
  Speaker 12: down from this committee. Ray Chung himself as saying he's
• 23:01
  Speaker 12: not allowed to talk because he'd get in trouble with
• 23:04
  Speaker 12: both the mayor and his lawyer. So the mystery goes on.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Goodness, me, Adam, I have to say that any scandal
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: involving Rage Hung that doesn't mention the words pendulous breasts
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: is not as interesting as the last one. How's the weather?
• 23:15
  Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, you're right fine with cloud morning and night
• 23:18
  Speaker 12: at a higher fifteen nice one.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Neva's in Auckland morning, Neva, good morning.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: Everyone's in trouble.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Ah yeah, hey, well including vive Beck. Is she back
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: at work now or what's going on? Yes? Well this
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: is the latest.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: So the Employment Relations authorities warning Heart of the city's
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: grounds for suspending vive Beck maybe too speculative, so the
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: authorities ruled that Beck was unjustifiably suspended as chief executive.
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: This is obviously of the Auckland Business Association. This happened
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: in late March. Beck is accused of overstepping her boundaries
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: during the appointment of its chair, but Authority member Nicola
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: Craig says, look, it appears at this suspension it was
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: enacted before it was even sided. What exactly those allegations were?
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: So yeah, just back there.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Really MESSI mess. How's our weather fine?
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: Apart from a few passing thats another great one for Aucland.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Can you believe it?
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: Twenty is the high and it's late May.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Brilliant. We will enjoy that, Neva. It is seventeen minutes
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: away from six year on news talks. There b we've
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: got a Mitch double headed coming your way, Mitch mccannon
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: stateside for US Mark Mitchell corrections next, there's no denying
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  Speaker 1: Sorted international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Well, let's go to the US. The Department of Justice
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: is holding a press conference as we speak about Castro,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: the old one ninety four years old. There is a
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: prosecution happening. Mitch McCann is stateside for US much what's
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: happening here.
• 25:37
  Speaker 13: Yeah, good morning to you.
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: Ryan.
• 25:38
  Speaker 13: Look, the US has indicted Rachel Castro. He's the former
• 25:41
  Speaker 13: leader of Cuba. He's the brother of Adel Castro. And
• 25:44
  Speaker 13: this is in connection with Cuba shooting down a civilian
• 25:47
  Speaker 13: plane or two civilian plans actually more than thirty years ago.
• 25:50
  Speaker 13: But I think this is much more about, much more
• 25:54
  Speaker 13: than just that incident.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: Ryan.
• 25:55
  Speaker 13: It's the administration's latest move against Cuba. This is a
• 25:58
  Speaker 13: country that America has, you know, is next after what
• 26:02
  Speaker 13: happened in Venezuela and Iran. And it's one that Donald
• 26:04
  Speaker 13: Trump said would be his honor to take.
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 26:07
  Speaker 13: Todd blanche, the Attorney General of the United States, is
• 26:10
  Speaker 13: discussing this now. But this is, as I say, much
• 26:13
  Speaker 13: more bigger than just an indictment against Raul Castro. This
• 26:16
  Speaker 13: is the next move from the US against Cuba.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Do you reckon? The Cuba thing is going to kick
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: off in the next week.
• 26:21
  Speaker 13: While match, Well, I think a lot of it's dependent
• 26:24
  Speaker 13: on the midterm elections, Ryan, I think they want to
• 26:26
  Speaker 13: get a run out of the way before they do this,
• 26:28
  Speaker 13: and if they lose the midterms, they're going to have
• 26:30
  Speaker 13: less ability to do that. So they may want to
• 26:32
  Speaker 13: act soon if they're going to, But I would imagine
• 26:35
  Speaker 13: that the American people would be very unhappy. There was
• 26:37
  Speaker 13: a new poll yesterday that showed sixty four percent of
• 26:40
  Speaker 13: Americans this is according to the New York Times, think
• 26:43
  Speaker 13: it was the wrong move from the US to attack Iran.
• 26:46
  Speaker 13: So they're not going to want another another conflict like
• 26:48
  Speaker 13: that soon after.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Now, speaking of the prime we've had a couple of
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: primaries and Trump's endorsements are doing very well. So you've
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: got to be on side with the boss.
• 26:58
  Speaker 13: Yeah, this is you know, he's a significant wins for
• 27:01
  Speaker 13: Donald Trump. He's not actually on the ballot himself, but
• 27:03
  Speaker 13: as we've discussed, Ryan, he's been endorsing Republican candidates to
• 27:06
  Speaker 13: run against members of his own party who have spoken
• 27:10
  Speaker 13: out against him. Now, the biggest win for Trump so
• 27:12
  Speaker 13: far was last night in Kentucky the Republican Thomas Massey.
• 27:16
  Speaker 13: He's been very outspoken against Trump in regard to the
• 27:18
  Speaker 13: Epstein files and the war in Iran. He was unseated
• 27:22
  Speaker 13: by a former Navy seal whom Donald Trump had endorsed.
• 27:24
  Speaker 13: So it shows us while his approval ratings are low,
• 27:27
  Speaker 13: as I mentioned, and the war in Iran is not popular,
• 27:30
  Speaker 13: it shows he has an iron grip on the Republican
• 27:32
  Speaker 13: Party still.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Mitch McCann, our US correspondent good Heavy on the show
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: was always twelve minutes away from Sex, so back home.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: A dozen correction staff arrested yesterday, at least a dozen,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: including a senior officer. They were accused of taking bribes
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: to smugle items into prison, including meth Mark Mitchell, Minister
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: for Corrections with me this morning, minister, good morning, good morning.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Right is this gang you know, gangs inside prison? Who
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: or controlling this stuff or what?
• 28:00
  Speaker 14: I can't speak to the detail obviously now the rest
• 28:02
  Speaker 14: said being made and now it's a legal process, so
• 28:08
  Speaker 14: I can't interfere or discuss the details on it. But
• 28:11
  Speaker 14: the one thing I would say when you mentioned gangs
• 28:13
  Speaker 14: is that when I became Minister, I had both Corrections
• 28:16
  Speaker 14: and Police. I was very clear about them working closer together.
• 28:19
  Speaker 14: They had been in terms of making using a difficult
• 28:23
  Speaker 14: place to be a gang member, and also focused on
• 28:26
  Speaker 14: the harm that the gang members are responsible for and
• 28:29
  Speaker 14: organized crimes. So they Corrections and police have been very
• 28:32
  Speaker 14: effective at doing that and this has obviously been a
• 28:36
  Speaker 14: very good operation.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, all very well to put people
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: in prison, but if they're going to prison and able
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: to keep doing meth, it's hardly ideal, is it.
• 28:44
  Speaker 14: Well, and that's exactly why we're doing what we're doing.
• 28:47
  Speaker 14: That's exactly why Corrections and police are working together. This
• 28:50
  Speaker 14: is what gangs do. And like I said to you,
• 28:53
  Speaker 14: I can't talk to details about this case, so I'm
• 28:55
  Speaker 14: not inferring anything other than the fact that your original
• 28:59
  Speaker 14: comment was around gangs and we've been very proactive in
• 29:02
  Speaker 14: dealing with them.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Do you think correction staff get paid enough?
• 29:07
  Speaker 14: Look, I was saying yesterday that you know, in a
• 29:10
  Speaker 14: perfect world, if we're a high wage economy like Australia,
• 29:14
  Speaker 14: they are prepared to sort of tap into their natural resources,
• 29:18
  Speaker 14: then you know, I'd love to be able to pay
• 29:19
  Speaker 14: all of our officials slenders war. That's not the reality
• 29:22
  Speaker 14: that we live in. But you know, at the end
• 29:24
  Speaker 14: of the day, we have got a world class corrections service.
• 29:28
  Speaker 14: This is a very small group. Most of our corrections
• 29:31
  Speaker 14: officers are professional, they are pack full of integrity. They
• 29:35
  Speaker 14: do an outstanding job in a very difficult environment. And
• 29:38
  Speaker 14: I don't think that money is an issue because you
• 29:41
  Speaker 14: can't buy integrity. You either have it or you don't.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Well, fourteen is quite I mean, you're say it's a
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: small number, but it still a lot of people. I
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: mean I was quite shocked when I read that, to
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: be honest with.
• 29:50
  Speaker 14: You, Well, we've got eleven thousand. We've got eleven thousand
• 29:53
  Speaker 14: people intrections, whether it be our frontline corrections offices and
• 29:57
  Speaker 14: our facilities, or whether it be community based, and every
• 29:59
  Speaker 14: day they it up. There's thousands of positive actions that
• 30:03
  Speaker 14: take part of it every day.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Is there anything like are you going to do some
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: sort of review or are you going to be looking
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: further into other staff members after what's happened here?
• 30:13
  Speaker 14: Initially, I just wanted to reassure myself. We've had our
• 30:16
  Speaker 14: recruiting process and our in our recruiting program is Upstead
• 30:22
  Speaker 14: and I'm absolutely satisfied that it is. They do an
• 30:26
  Speaker 14: outstanding job corrections. But unfortunately the world that we live in,
• 30:30
  Speaker 14: this is a global phenomenon. It's not just New Zealand.
• 30:33
  Speaker 14: Is that you get as our corrections officers are in
• 30:36
  Speaker 14: a position where sometimes they are they do have pressure
• 30:39
  Speaker 14: put on them. It's important that they have the training
• 30:42
  Speaker 14: and they do. And it's also important that enforcement agencies
• 30:46
  Speaker 14: in this case police are being proactive brain operations and
• 30:50
  Speaker 14: making sure that we get on top of this sort
• 30:51
  Speaker 14: of these sorts of issues.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: All right, good stuff, min it's to thank you. Mark
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Mitchell finished of the Corrections. Time is eight away from six.
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  Speaker 2: they don't really know what's going in, what's coming out,
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  Speaker 2: how much is going to warn what's going to happen
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  Speaker 2: with it. And there are similar things happening with labor
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  Speaker 2: over in Australia and this is just a week after
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  Speaker 2: their budget. They are looking like they're now going to
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  Speaker 2: do a walk back on capital gains because the startup
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  Speaker 2: companies are all upset over there that they're going to
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  Speaker 2: property even as well, because the first home buys just
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  Speaker 2: don't believe that they are going to get the deals
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  Speaker 2: that the Labor Party promised that they will get.
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  Speaker 9: Ryan Bridge, good morning.
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  Speaker 7: Mike Morning Mins this morning, who runs who is a
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  Speaker 7: Labor premiere but of the center version says this morning
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  Speaker 7: he's not backing it, and so that's come out of
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  Speaker 7: nowhere because he says, you work in Australia, and this
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  Speaker 7: is a very good argument around all the people who
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: have gone to Australia thinking it's, you know, the land
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  Speaker 7: of the milk and honey. You work Monday Tuesday in
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  Speaker 7: a bit of Wednesday. Top tax right in Australia's forty
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  Speaker 7: seven cents in the dollar. So you work Monday choosday
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: in a chunk of Wednesday for yourself. The rest of
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: the working for the government outrageous and you're going nowhere fast.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: And you see the Coalitions come out with this tax
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: bracket change, which would be very appealing if you're working to.
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: You remember, there's what we did here because we had
• 32:24
  Speaker 7: the same problem because you creep into another tax breaking
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: you don't realize and so they get more money.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: And here is type of creep. Remember Simon Bridges was
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: going to do bracket creep. Yes it was, but then
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: it never happened and no one's ever touched it because
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: it's so expensive to a government, doesn't it. Indeed, indeed
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: it is regulators this morning?
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: Was that funny?
• 32:43
  Speaker 9: Yesterday?
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: I thought that was moderately funny. Regulator in the country
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: and all the dogs. You realize how many regulators run
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: the dolls?
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sort of seven or age or something.
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: There's a lot of people, isn't it.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: But do we need ninety people at the Ministry for Regulation?
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Does seem an awful lot? And they're very well paid?
• 32:57
  Speaker 13: Are they?
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Are you worried? What's well like one hundred I think
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: the average was one hundred and forty thousand or something
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: Well, if they improve, it's money. It's like the Peters
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: thing yesterday, I thought, see we need more people on
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: the international stage.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: So this whole thing of cutting the public service, you
• 33:13
  Speaker 7: don't just cut the public service and a generalized number
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: I would have thought you go through and say, you know,
• 33:18
  Speaker 7: quite frankly, you do a good job and you probably
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: need more people have them as opposed to the other
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  Speaker 7: department where you guys are all sitting around doing nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Nikola Willis was saying that we should have one HR
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  Speaker 2: department for the entire government, which I thought maybe it
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  Speaker 2: was a step too far.
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  Speaker 7: She worried me yesterday when she said I'd been experimenting
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  Speaker 7: with AI in my office and I thought, I'm not
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  Speaker 7: sure you said should have said that out loud. By
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  Speaker 7: the way, Grant Baker today, you know the name Grant
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  Speaker 7: Baker Turners forty two below serial on Tributary. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: one of the great success stories. Anyway, he's an after eight,
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  Speaker 7: so we'll have a chat with them.
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  Speaker 2: Very cool, please God his talks b MICUs with him next.
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