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Wrapping up the 49ers preseason with Week 1 closing in · Niner Noise Podcast on the 49ers

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, hello, and welcome to another edition of the 9-Roy's podcast part of the fancited podcast network.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My name is Robert Orson, a contributor at 9-Roy's.com, and here with me, well-rested and ready for the start of the season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mr. Oksha's David Duel Oksha's, we are ready.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The pre-season is over, it's time, how are you feeling?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a, it's a good time robbery.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we were just saying, can't believe that, you know, it comes and goes so fast, but we won footballs on the TV for those of you who are college football fans for us NFL fans, we wait one more week and then through them after the races, all this offseason drama, lack of drama, everything going on, you know, we don't have to, we don't have to worry about that anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, uh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: 11, 11 players don't feel that at a time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm technically the seasons that we're recording on Friday night, the week before the season starts, things kicking off on Wednesday, which is weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you saw the NBC is bringing back the Mike Mike Mike Mike Campbell for ads for the Wednesday night game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you, did you see this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did not know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had the unfortunate thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm talking about, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the like the old, was it a guy go commercial?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's something like that where the camel walked around and was trying to get him to say hump day, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so they brought that NBC brought that back because the season starting in Wednesday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason the season is starting in Wednesday is because
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[SPEAKER_00]: in order to make the 49ers Ram's game in Australia work, they had to do that before the season started as well, and so they're doing that on Thursday night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: hour time will really like Thursday afternoon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, I guess it's evening time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like what six, six, 30 or something like that in San Francisco, it'll be like early morning Friday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like 10 o'clock Friday morning or something like that in Australia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So very strange.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So in order to their comedy for that, the Seahawks and Patriots will play a Super Bowl rematch on Wednesday night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all kind of weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the the the links that the NFL will go to bend over backwards to make their their cool stuff happen just will there a cease to amaze me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, well, I thought it was funny that for the slight possibility, I feel like you talked about this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's the off chance that the Seahawks could win the Super Bowl and not even like start the season and they'd like to division rivals would.
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[SPEAKER_01]: having a game in Australia is so practically like not feasible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just so fascinating that this is sort of what they've decided to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So to speak.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, you know, at the same at the same time for the 49ers, it's a chance to like business-wise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, apparently, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Their Niners are the most popular team in Australia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is a chance for them to really like tap into a market of theirs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, means that week one's going to look a little weird.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I can't once the last time the Super Bowl champion did plan Thursday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It has to be like celebrating 100 years, I think, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, at least before, because they haven't done this Thursday night thing for a terribly long amount of time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so you'd have to go back to whenever they didn't play Thursday night games, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, that would be the first time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, within the last couple of decades, probably, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I don't remember.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, when they started when they were like, well, the Super Bowl chain theme is going to kick off the
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because they did the Brazil game on Friday right last year, because they did the Thursday and the Friday, then the Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, very strange.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And obviously, if this works out in Melbourne, you can almost, you can bet a small sum of money that they NFL will do it again next year with two different teams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it will be the same kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like whoever, I just think,
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[SPEAKER_00]: like they're probably this might be the new normal i think it's a pretty good chance that it'll be a Wednesday night game for the super full champs a Thursday night game for whoever is playing in Australia or
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[SPEAKER_00]: wherever else they decide halfway across because they're going to pick someplace that far away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's always going to have to be week one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just going to have to be how it works.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they'll get the rest of the season started on Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very interesting, but I can't imagine unless it falls flat on its face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just can't see a situation where it doesn't happen like this for the foreseeable future.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think I read somewhere that Roger
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, totally imagine that this is going to be the new normal and 18 games, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, well, he wants a lot of things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see what happens and what doesn't well, I mean, you can start getting a little nippy like the Mexico game counts and that's not really as much of a travel thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they go play a game in Canada or something like that, like where the travel is a little less problematic, but I think the bigger problem is like
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[SPEAKER_00]: teams giving up home games and having to convince owners to take take that on, you know, and be like, you know, because the Rams are well, they opted to give up a home game for this trip to Australia and they're going to lose gate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to make sure they're getting money from from the game in, uh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Australia, but they're not going to get.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not the same as the home team getting the gate money at their home stadium.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would imagine there's still a cut, but there's probably there probably share some sharing of the financials with the 49ers a little bit, and so I don't know, but it is very interesting for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: definitely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just, I mean, for the 49ers, right, like, with this is just been like kind of quote unquote off the field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they're going to be like, like you said, playing effectively of Friday morning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of unheard of for a football, like, you know, for a football team to play so early.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it'll be real interesting to see like how they respond.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe this might be a place
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[SPEAKER_01]: Travel if you kind of kicks in you know because they play their 10 AMs when they travel to the East Coast So I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm interested to see how they perform especially because the Rams are like flying in like one day or two days before I think like the day before
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right like it's such a different approach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So obviously, you know, we're not going to get into the game too much, but the rams might just be a pretty good football team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's hard to tell how to separate like the outcome from the game from any like one approach to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's an interest like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This game, and I would say, like, one team's travel to Mexico, and they have to deal with the altitude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are the trainers this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are two places where, like, location actually matters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that can have a real tangible impact on whether or not a team's going to succeed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be interesting for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk more about the Australia stuff towards the back end of the episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Before we get into any more of those things, we do have two bits of two bits of two events that have happened since we last recorded.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One of which that we just kind of want to mention, obviously at this point I think everybody knows about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not going to talk a lot about it, and that is the Jed York incident, as I'm referring to it as,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, we don't need to get into the specifics of what happened because at this point it's been gosh, like probably a month now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe a little less than that and everyone knows what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, again, I don't think it's worth spending a whole lot of time on, but I think it's it's certainly not great for Jet himself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's certainly not great for the team, although I think the benefit of him being the owner and not like a head coach or something like that means that he can sort of just drift away and nobody has to think about it anymore and you know he'll deal with whatever the legal ramifications of it are and hopefully it doesn't have a major impact on
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[SPEAKER_00]: on the day-to-day operations of the team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess my main thawnaut would be if there's clearly whatever it is going on with him, there's a lot of conversation about the fact that he's going through a divorce now and there are a lot of, you know, that makes people do crazy things and you just hope whatever her health he needs, he's able to get it and some from a football perspective that the team's able to just kind of lock in and do what they need to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, you know, like, I'm not like you said it's not really our place with frankly, our expertise to talk much about anything other than like the football ramifications of it, which is that, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: If there is a suspension, which they're probably will be, given the personal conduct policy at the NFL, the 40 members, you too, and I think are getting ahead of it, that way they sort of know what their can or can't do, what like ownership is like approval is for any actions they want to take.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, at the end of the day, that, in the fact that the team has to answer these questions, or the only like football implications.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Beyond that, obviously, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh like difficult situation but not much for us to really like talk about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think football wise and I mean the 49ers like organization like the brass calcium and I think Fred Orner also indicated that like that was already true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they already were sort of like football wise this doesn't impact us much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So uh I think I don't know like I don't know what more else there is to say
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's much else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, I think we get only get ourselves into trouble by saying any more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Another bit of bad news that happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not directly impacting the 49ers, at least not yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it three years, four, three years?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Three years, I want to say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think three is right, that he retired.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Since he retired, he was still relatively young when he retired.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's what, 35 now I think, something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he has returned to the NFL after his much,
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[SPEAKER_00]: after his much-shade, value-hood, time with with the Rams, he is
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's back and the expectation and this just came out just a couple hours ago is that he's going to travel with the team now whether or not that means he's going to play because there's been a lot of conversation about the fact that I mean he's been out of out of the game of retired in 24 sorry he's been out of a game for a couple of years doesn't mean that he's not in good shape or anything but he also didn't come back to
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[SPEAKER_00]: even come back to the team for, you know, several several weeks before, you know, basically training camp was over and preseason games and stuff were over and not like he was going to play in any of those.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, um, yeah, it does look like he's going to travel with the team to Australia now and then I get one of the 90 places and other things all together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think the general thing that we want to talk about is he's back and that's annoying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Super annoying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, hard hitting analysis, yeah, yeah, not fun not fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's I mean, he is on the short list of best defensive linemen of all time, which hurts to say, but is true, I think, and so for the 49ers,
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[SPEAKER_01]: they have to deal with that while also dealing with another player on their short list under games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like, yeah, I mean, you know, I can like we could sit here and talk about he might be Rusty who knows how good he's going to play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All of that is true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, I'm not it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think anyone is expecting like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: multi-year defense player the year Aaron Donald on the field but at the very least like he's going to be competent he's I don't think he'd come back unless he thought he had something to give just been all that here accomplished.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And more importantly, right, like you're just not going to double team him anymore, because you can't, you already double teaming somebody else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a Mr.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Miles Garrett out there and he needs to be double team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what does that mean for like the nine years?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whoever's Carver Willis, Zach Patterson, Connor Colby, maybe Robert Jones, if you wind up coming, I don't know who's someone, Tom To, you know, get into the weight room, get to work because it's gonna be, it's gonna be a challenge and it's frustrating, I think, as like a Niners fan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, like this is the best division in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and it just got harder.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the way it goes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Niners just got to deal with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, obviously, would have been a lot nicer if 99 wasn't on the defensive line where come week one, hopefully that won't happen, but definitely I don't do they play the last game of the season against the Rams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, they play them again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in relatively short order I mean also in any case yeah by the time they oh sorry no no it's not short order it's week 14 um what do I know but it's he'll he'll be there you'll be there that will be unfortunate the team will figure it out but you know hey good news though good news uh is that in part of the the roster cuts um in Washington included one
15:27
[SPEAKER_00]: just kidding.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the run.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the running joke when he was here that he was just like he was basically fine against everybody else and then aired to Arnold Lightup.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, so he was like, come on, let's go.
15:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And he would just take him down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, obviously, single handedly take him down, but it was just funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a real a real sort of throwback kind of
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm kidding, um, yeah, I'm right there with you on this air and Donald thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like Part of me is just like come on dude like you want it you quit like you're you were done You said you were done and we were excited that you went away and now of a sudden I'll be honest the little petty part of me is like if it wasn't gonna be easy for you you wouldn't come back
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because he wasn't he wasn't coming back before Miles Garrett got here and then I was saying it's like oh well okay fine yeah I'll go play with Miles Garrett and play on a defensive line where I will not have to where my life will not be that difficult but like she very true and like but like if I was a defensive lineman and someone told me hey like
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[SPEAKER_01]: per a season you just want to play with miles Garrett like on your defensive line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like yeah, sorry, yeah, it's a bit like dang, you know, like who wouldn't take that deal?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm not saying he's wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying it's like not cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fair enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like you're a done man like stay done stay down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who knows, maybe it'll end up being like Philip Rivers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: his, his triumph or turn to the NFL, although he's significantly younger than Philip Rivers' is even now, so probably it will not be that bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so let's talk, since we're already talking about the Rams, let's go ahead and talk about just some general Australia-related things, and then we'll talk about the roster and
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[SPEAKER_00]: The initial 53 and then also like what the 53 has become since it since since it was released which is a little bit different than what it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the 49ers already in Australia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the left couple days ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got in yesterday, I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know the time thing makes it all very weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's going to give them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: about a week, worth a time, I think six days or something like that, of acclamation, they'll be truly ready to go in terms like they'll know what time it is and all that kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You mentioned before, the Rams are not taking the same approach.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It seems like they're going to fly in as if it's a just a normal regular season game, the same as they would, you know, day before, and
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, people are making a big deal out of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I tend to think it could matter, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if you get into the point where it's later in the game and
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[SPEAKER_00]: One team's just got off a plane a couple hours ago or you know 12 hours ago and the others one has been resting and really practicing in the in the in the position in the place that they're gonna be I don't know like it it it feels to me as that it has the possibility and we'll talk about this in more detail when we do like the game Preview next week, but it does have the possibility of like equalizing things maybe a little bit
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[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely, equalize, like flip things even further.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a huge part of the whole battle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, I have 100% a group of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, we'll have to see,
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[SPEAKER_01]: see how it goes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, obviously, both teams like consulted with probably the preeminent experts to like determine their strategy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think anyone just like wasn't paying attention.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So someone was just like, oh, like this is the real approach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Someone said, no, this is the approach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now we'll find out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, obviously,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, pains me to say this, the rams might be slightly better than the 49ers, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So hard to say, and you know, I don't want to put it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to bestow everything on like travel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's going to be big deal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to be a way bigger.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to say a way bigger deal than people are talking about because I feel like it's a huge storyline.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do think it's going to have a tangible impact on the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I was just looking, I don't know if you noticed this, but with the four in the Anders posted pictures of like the players coming off the plane the other day, and they look, you know, they just got off the 17 hour flight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They look pretty, pretty wiped out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I can only imagine, I mean, in there,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm assuming flying in relative comfort as much as flying can be, I'm assuming they have, you know, a private plane that they took out there that's filled with those nice sleeping compartments and everything that made it to make it as relatively comfortable as such a thing can be, but also.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's lots of, you know, the, the pressure of being in an airplane and out of the, all that stuff like, I don't know, I've taken, I've not taken that long of flight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think like the longest flight ever been on this maybe like eight or nine hours and that feels like you get off the plane and you're like, I, and I'm not, I'm not a world class athlete for sure, but I feel out of sorts and not, not ready to go out there and do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that kind of activity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, we'll talk about it in more detail as we get next week when we do the preview episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll be back in the swing of preview post game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: here pretty soon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that'll be cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's talk about the state of the roster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the cut deadline was last sun was this past Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For an enters named 53 players to their squad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: three quarterbacks no surprises there for running back slash fullback no real surprises there um... i think the white receiver group was pretty much as we expected you were i think pretty much spot on uh... for the most part with what you were saying you said something to me about i think to mark his robins and was the only one you were like
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[SPEAKER_00]: a little I think you had said something like they're going to cut him and then bring him back and so they could put Christian Kirk on the on IR, but they did put Christian Kirk on there with a designation to return.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that I didn't know what's a thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Game changing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to take a win on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I was on top of it, but uh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that is I feel I'm kind of I want to say that the 49ers are the reason why this even exists now could be but I don't know for sure any injury related thing we've just given to the 49ers yeah but yeah I think that's that's fair they do have two
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[SPEAKER_00]: They can use two designate IR designations to return before making the cuts.
23:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're right before it used to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You had to put them on the roster and then you could put them on IR, but now you could do that with two guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that might be right.
23:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I don't recall.
23:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, um, the, of course, the Titans are there, George Kittle, um, who was activated prior to, um, the rosters being cut was the, the big name there, and he is with the team in Australia as we speak.
23:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Um,
23:57
[SPEAKER_00]: No real surprises along the offensive line.
24:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't say the defensive line, I think, had one of the bigger surprises and that was the inclusion of Undrafted for Agent James Thompson.
24:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Junior, among the nine guys on the group, but a really interesting group there, a lot of linebackers, seven, which is very interesting.
24:19
[SPEAKER_00]: In the same number of defensive backs that included Rookie,
24:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Ephesians, Freysock, and other than only three safeties, which is kind of interesting, all the surround Neil technically, I think is both a safety and a defensive battle key as a little overlap there.
24:34
[SPEAKER_00]: But then my favorite part of the roster are auctioned.
24:38
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25:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Nick Martin.
25:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Nick Martin is on, is on intruder's RVS.
25:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and someone else, which allowed them to resign someone else they could.
25:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Was it?
25:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they put Nate Hobbs.
25:17
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25:18
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25:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but very, very interesting roster movement by the 49ers.
25:27
[SPEAKER_00]: That I don't know, it's one of those things.
25:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I know the NFL has the rules and you got to do it this way and you got to do it that way.
25:36
[SPEAKER_00]: But it is very strange to me because it makes the sort of Roth the announcement of the 53-man roster feel a little bit anti-colonactic, because this is not what this team is going to be.
25:52
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to look like this even the next day.
25:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I really think the real cuts that I'm like, whoa, are the players who get waived as opposed to release.
26:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's players what they think for less three or less years in the NFL.
26:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, will lettuce, the titans like former starting quarterback, you got released, he was waived.
26:20
[SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty, like, pretty big.
26:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just like, oh, like those guys,
26:25
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't think that like you deserve to be on the 53.
26:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's just maybe practice squad, maybe not.
26:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's a different ball game to me than like a vested veteran where you're like, oh well, they could just bring him back whenever we even know.
26:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, notably since those cuts are made, Ash and Davis has returned to the team.
26:48
[SPEAKER_00]: He is on the 53-man roster now, which is a nice addition, I think, to the safety group, one of those like vested veterans, as you were talking about that allows them to keep them around.
27:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Jared Patterson, who they made a trade for,
27:05
[SPEAKER_00]: was, um, not on the original group, but they had to move some things around in order to get him in there.
27:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, they made that trade with...
27:19
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27:20
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27:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Jackson's, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's good.
27:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I think also notably the Daryan Low who missed most of training camp after they traded for him with the Patriots for the over the off season.
27:37
[SPEAKER_00]: He was on the active roster or on the 53, which probably means that he's going to be good to play.
27:46
[SPEAKER_00]: still six linebackers as you noted they put Nick Martin on IR, but yeah, but other than that, I think not terribly surprising in the group, Brandon Kordrington was also added to the mix.
28:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure where he came from, but he is listed on the 50th on the roster as of right now.
28:13
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a corner back.
28:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if there was a replacement there.
28:17
[SPEAKER_00]: And then of course the most recent news is that Sam Okuwano is not going to play week one and it looks like they made a 49ers made a signing from the Falcons.
28:34
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28:47
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28:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I know who you're talking about but I also don't know the name.
28:53
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28:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we are just, we're just, you know, the team had preseason, but as you guys know, because we don't read our preseason.
29:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're so working on it.
29:05
[SPEAKER_00]: He is actually listed on their website.
29:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, he's not.
29:08
[SPEAKER_00]: His name is Khalid Karim is his name.
29:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And the expectation is that he'll be a defensive line, and a defensive end.
29:18
[SPEAKER_00]: He worked with Reheem Morris, obviously, and it landed last couple of years.
29:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, he is already on his way out to, uh, Melbourne.
29:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if that means, if, like, what the move is there, maybe Ocoana goes to IR, if it's a foot injury, I imagine that had slightly hood of keeping him out for an extended period.
29:36
[SPEAKER_00]: But, uh, not great, but, um, if they just, the defensive line is certainly something to watch for sure out of this group.
29:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, definitely.
29:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, light.
29:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Okumana was maybe the one of the healthiest and most productive people they had on the roster.
29:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a real blow.
29:56
[SPEAKER_01]: It's also a real indictment of the sort of depth of the defensive line that a Samo was probably your second best.
30:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Or like third, I'd say the second best end currently healthy right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If not first, depending on how you feel about Nick Boses like
30:15
[SPEAKER_01]: overall like ACL recovery.
30:17
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a brutal.
30:18
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a brutal loss.
30:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, when I think he's given a chance to play in his role, which is to say part time rotational defensive end sliding inside.
30:30
[SPEAKER_01]: to be played tackle sometimes.
30:33
[SPEAKER_01]: He's quite productive, and so that's a huge, that's a huge loss.
30:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Overall for the roster, I really, I personally was not surprised by any of the cuts I thought everything made sense.
30:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I think
30:48
[SPEAKER_01]: The balance was a little surprising to me, but it felt like they really got, they kept the best players.
30:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe like losing Bryson Eason, the defensive tackle, to the chiefs, that was a bit difficult, but that's really the only player I was like, oh, that's a rough cut.
31:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone else else, I think that tracks with the way the team is gone.
31:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the other interesting one, only because of the reaction that the rest of Lee had to him was sterile uter, who has been a much maligned player for the 49ers since his arrival.
31:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that there's a whole lot of,
31:28
[SPEAKER_00]: 49ers fans who were like, oh man, Darrell Luter is gone, but apparently the rest of the NFL's like bringing him to me and Was one of the most popular players on the way for why everyone's he was gut?
31:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Very interesting.
31:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder it's just like, oh, he's played some games for an NFL team and we can get him on the roster and I don't know.
31:50
[SPEAKER_00]: It's very very interesting
31:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think Luther is has the like tools, right?
31:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like if you really, like I think most niner spans, their frustration within is that, uh,
32:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it seemed like sometimes he didn't always put it together.
32:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Then obviously he had the snaffy and the Super Bowl.
32:08
[SPEAKER_01]: That's hard to overcome.
32:10
[SPEAKER_01]: But like, if you separate that, there's definitely like a lot to work with.
32:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think to your point, right, like, he is about as close to like, okay, actually like a backup who we can actually trust to put in a game if necessary.
32:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Who would have been cut?
32:28
[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, that's my guess.
32:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I was also a little surprised as to like how many waiter wire claims there were, but you know.
32:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, he didn't make it very far.
32:40
[SPEAKER_00]: He went to the raiders.
32:43
[SPEAKER_00]: So so that means
32:46
[SPEAKER_00]: He was one one, right?
32:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that was it.
32:48
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was, so they didn't, yeah, they didn't have it there.
32:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I should also mention Brandon Coddington, who's a name that I mentioned.
32:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's technically on the 53 man.
33:02
[SPEAKER_00]: But apparently, uh, might be a name to watch in the return game.
33:08
[SPEAKER_00]: He was an all rookie returner in 2024, and he's been the top five in the NFL Tunt Return and Kick Return average over the last two years.
33:17
[SPEAKER_01]: So this will be interesting, because this might say something about whether Jacob Cowings can apply.
33:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Or if he's healthy, yeah, I guess I hate to say it, but he's that's yeah, or at least, you know, someone, I mean, he's a corner back, so it gives them some depth, because I know Ephesians priceock is potentially, I know they've had some.
33:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's been a little touching go with some of their defensive backs.
33:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, an inch of Nate Hobbes is already on injured reserve.
33:47
[SPEAKER_00]: If he's in his price, I think, has was coming off an injury at the end of previous season.
33:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I know that Ronaldo Green was up and down, you know, Jack Jones.
33:57
[SPEAKER_00]: He's still playing in the, does he have some, did he break his hand?
34:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Or something like that?
34:04
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that would be news to me.
34:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Some baby, maybe.
34:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Hold on.
34:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought he had an injury earlier in the season.
34:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I'm thinking of someone else, but...
34:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he had a hand injury in August in the preseason.
34:26
[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't break his hand, but he didn't have an hand injury, a hand injury that is stained against the Titans.
34:32
[SPEAKER_00]: So he seems to be good to go, but that is certainly like, their quarterback room has been tested, I will say.
34:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, Codrington possibly adds another, like a break in grace of glass type of thing, but if he can also be a key guy as a kicker Turner,
34:54
[SPEAKER_00]: It certainly does spell problems for a check of count.
34:58
[SPEAKER_01]: That's true, 100%.
35:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And he kind of wonder, like if the cornerback room is is in not like the greatest of shape, but they feel pretty good about their wider seaver group you would think in terms of like the way that they choose the game day roster, maybe their preference would be to bring
35:23
[SPEAKER_00]: not on the active roster if they think they're going to use caudrington as a return guy as opposed to cowling where he's not likely to see the field if he's not returning plants or kicks I wouldn't think.
35:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like if he's like only partially healthy or he's not on percent ready to go then I agree that you get a lot of a how do you say a lot of flexibility
35:48
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know, I think Kowing, like he's probably the fastest player on the team, which creates this sort of general concern that like I think he's going to get snaps if he's if he's active, but
36:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you're not 100% on him and I don't think they are my understanding is that he's like dealing with another entry, basically after he sealed his roster spot, we too, we got hurt.
36:19
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and I think it's good protection, because I don't think Jordan Walkins really showed much of anything as a returner.
36:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
36:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's mostly the punt returns, right?
36:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I think you have options, like I think Deepa's aiming would actually be a really good, like kickoff returner, like as an option there, especially if you feel pretty good about my Kevin's and to John Strubling and to Marcus Robinson as your, like, wide receivers.
36:54
[SPEAKER_00]: It will be very interesting to see what the plan is for Deepa this year.
36:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I have to say.
36:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm not so sure to be fair.
37:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure anyone is sure really.
37:05
[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
37:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, because he doesn't have to be necessarily, he doesn't have to be the guy that he was, because I think there is enough, you know, barring health.
37:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's enough in this, in the group where he doesn't have to be wider receiver to necessarily, and so they can kind of use him in a lot of different ways.
37:29
[SPEAKER_00]: as a kicker turner is one way to do it.
37:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
37:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it's the it's an interesting question to me also because um you know like I think when the news came out about the new kicker turner system way back when there's a lot of expectation that like oh this is really designed for a player like Devo
37:54
[SPEAKER_01]: But now I'm like, I don't know, like he had a couple of great returns, but that doesn't seem like 100% guaranteed.
38:02
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, I'm interested to see sort of like obviously they're really using them as a wide back.
38:07
[SPEAKER_01]: That will be interesting to see how that plays out.
38:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.
38:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I mean, and the other thing about the wide receiver group is.
38:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Depending on how you feel about Christian Kirk's situation, obviously we haven't seen him at all because he got hurt like what the first day of training camp or something like that.
38:30
[SPEAKER_00]: So we haven't or before that.
38:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I think technically but first day of like whatever the OTAs or whatever before training camp.
38:38
[SPEAKER_00]: So we haven't seen him at all in his last season wasn't terribly productive.
38:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it'll be really interesting to see if if they think of him as a automatic, okay, he's healthy, he's in a month, he's coming back, or if one of these young guys specifically, I'm thinking of probably Jordan Watkins and Jacob Cowlinger, the would be the odd man out if they decide
39:08
[SPEAKER_00]: like to go a different direction.
39:10
[SPEAKER_00]: The Marcus Robinson could be, but if he's productive, then I can't, I don't see a situation where they let him go.
39:18
[SPEAKER_00]: That will be something to watch like in terms of what happens with him, or if they descend upon him.
39:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I feel like because they gave him the designation to return, they're gonna want him to return if he's ready to go.
39:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like,
39:35
[SPEAKER_01]: One thing this team does is that they don't really have someone lose a roster spot or a position to injury generally.
39:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, generally, so like I just I would be shocked if they didn't like see what Kirk can do.
39:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Like who knows, maybe it might not like you might not have a long leash, but I'm sure also like given the way this team works, there will be injuries.
40:01
[SPEAKER_01]: There will be a
40:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Someone, they'll be a reason for them to get a watch receiver on the roster, unfortunately.
40:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's that is true.
40:13
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, we're getting into, into wandering, into wandering territory here, but as we're getting into the season, I'm going to pull a, pull a fast one, or a pull a surprise one on here for you, Okshaas, but
40:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Tell me one one thing for the season that you're either excited about or if you want to make some like a random prediction about something it like not like not a normal thing
40:44
[SPEAKER_00]: like don't predict how many wins you think they're going to get or something like that, but if you want to, if you want to do both, you can, but I'm just throwing this at you as my end real time.
40:52
[SPEAKER_00]: So one thing you're excited about and or a random prediction that you think people aren't necessarily thinking about.
41:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm excited to see Fred Warner play football again.
41:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Ah, heck yeah.
41:04
[SPEAKER_01]: like just because he's he's such a beast.
41:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I look genuinely I just I have a feeling that he's going to be better than he was before.
41:13
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a super exciting to think about.
41:15
[SPEAKER_01]: My prediction is that this is going to be like very Homer, maybe Coke, you know, a lot of like pro 49er here.
41:26
[SPEAKER_01]: But I really think that a Brock party has an MVP shot this year.
41:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I think um
41:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we've gotten far enough to where people started to be like, oh, you know, he can like produce outside of the system.
41:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think given the fact that the division is so tough, if the 49ers wind up winning the division, which I'm not predicting or not, like I think rock produced the MVP.
41:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just like, that's like, that's my prediction is, I'm gonna say top three in MVP voting, but maybe like one.
41:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I like, I genuinely think he's going to have a banner year.
42:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like he's figured out the correct balance for, like, how to be in this offense.
42:08
[SPEAKER_01]: And now he has better weapons to help him with that.
42:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we sort of forget just how good.
42:16
[SPEAKER_01]: the team was on offense.
42:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously not playing like C-Hox caliber defenses, but like they could, they like didn't punt for three or four.
42:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, that was a good time.
42:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, like that's insane.
42:30
[SPEAKER_01]: That's so, that makes me feel fairly, fairly confident that David Chan's for something like that.
42:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I could certainly see that.
42:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Like if they win the division,
42:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't think there's a situation where he is not like, gone on some sort of tear for, you know, for 17 weeks, right, even if they're in the conversation and he's healthy, I feel like that's going to be because that.
43:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the Rams or the Rams, the Seahawks, if the Seahawks continue to be the team that they are, it's not going to be a because of Samdarnal type of situation.
43:12
[SPEAKER_00]: So if they, if the 49ers like overcome those two situations and win or have a shot at winning the vision towards the end of the season, then you could certainly see that as part of the conversation.
43:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm right there with you with Fred Warner, like that's gonna be awesome.
43:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm super interested to see what Drager in last still has in the tank if being back here and back with his guy like livin's and back up.
43:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Not like he needs an excuse a lot to get excited, but if that's just like helps him to feel more comfortable, you kind of have to wonder like going into another situation in Denver where
43:53
[SPEAKER_00]: he was asked to be more of the guy, like we've seen this before, like sometimes, guys, some guys are not the guy, right?
44:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And when they step out of the situation that they were in that they were really comfortable with and then they go off and try to be the number one option or whatever it was, it just doesn't work out.
44:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, some of that was injury with him and that sort of thing, but that will be something exciting to watch.
44:17
[SPEAKER_00]: My prediction is going to be that
44:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Kyle Shanahan finally has a backup running back that he trusts.
44:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Kayle on black has got something.
44:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Notably, the fact that he can hold a zone back there in past retection, which even for a guy, his size, like he's not a big guy, they listen at 5-10, I think that might be generous.
44:44
[SPEAKER_00]: But that by itself is going to move him so high up in Chanahan's ability to trust him, like no other rookie running back that he's drafted.
44:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Cause I think
44:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's killed most of these other guys that he's brought in is that he just like you put them back there and it's just it was a disaster from the past protection from blitz pick up perspective and then it didn't really matter what they could do with the ball in their hands and then those two things just sort of slots around and I think there's a pretty good chance that they can't land black.
45:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want I'm not confirming numbers at you but
45:22
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to spell Christian McAfrey enough so that Christian McAfrey is a useful player well into the playoffs, which is what the 49ers need.
45:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I totally agree.
45:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, we obviously, but I don't want to say we, I paned the pick extensively.
45:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Robert, maybe you were, uh, absent.
45:41
[SPEAKER_01]: You were, you were out of here.
45:43
[SPEAKER_00]: It was just like, it was like, you know, that's, that's what Jananda is.
45:46
[SPEAKER_00]: He's selects running backs in the third round.
45:48
[SPEAKER_00]: It's his favorite thing to do.
45:49
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like, really, none of the running backs he's ever selected early.
45:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it flashed in the way that kill I'm blacked it.
45:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, whatever the 49ers need, he has.
46:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he,
46:01
[SPEAKER_01]: he has it and it's going to be really exciting to see Jordan James also looked really good.
46:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see Shanahan get creative with multi-back sets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that's not something we've seen a lot of but that's a real like tool when you have I mean theoretically right you could have like
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[SPEAKER_01]: Three to four, you could have four players on the field, all of whom were available throughout five players on the field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All of whom were like a legitimate Bible threat to run from the center, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got Brockfordy, then you get a Kyle use check.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you get Debo and then you get McAfrey and one of those back up running backs and it's like well they can also all catch up like there's a lot of opportunity here that I feel like the 40 matters have not exploited much for whatever reason but you know now they have the they have the players for it so yeah I think it's just a trust thing right like you have to I mean we've seen this from rookie's no matter where they play but there's just something about
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[SPEAKER_00]: the skill, the offensive skill, guys, that Shanahan has really specific expectations for what he wants from them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if they don't do it, do all of those things, that ears, they're toast, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, the few times that we've seen rookie, skills, skills, offensive skill, guys, who have immediately stepped in,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been because they've done everything that they've been asked to do, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or so many injuries.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that was where I was going with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a case that maybe Brandon I probably didn't do all the things that he was asked to do as a rookie, but they didn't really have any choice at that point, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, well, that's that was the proverbial doc house.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, 100%, what a weird situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's still, by the way, he's now officially now that the September 1st deadline is passed, he cannot play until next year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He cannot be reinstated until 2027.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we said we weren't going to talk to that episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it came up, and so I just thought I'd mention that little tidbit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just a crazy, yeah, I saw it, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I'm gonna add, I saw, well, Vernon Davis had an interesting line up out of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was an expecting Vernon Davis to say much of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He just said, look, you're not bigger than the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, why?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Vernon Davis is calling you up for crazy active, for crazy behavior.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, what the hell?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like no offense to Vernon, but he was, you know, he was an interesting cat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just so he's a funny guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all I gotta say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, well as I said, we will be back early next week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The game is on Thursday night on Netflix.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So get your seven day trials in the start of the next Wednesday or Thursday or something like that so that you can watch the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then don't forget to cancel them if you so choose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have not partaken in any of the Netflix live.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... tv efforts thus far no way that's not true i watch the home run derby briefly a little bit this year but i've not watched any of their like true games so i'm very interested to see how this is going to how this is going to work obviously it's been pretty much baseball um... they had a couple of games last year but that the NFL is so specific that if you're if your team's not playing like i didn't like
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[SPEAKER_00]: chime in to whoever is playing on Christmas Day or whatever, but very interesting to see how it's going to go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there you go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say, I think I'm like baseball, which was like my read is just that they were like, oh, we need people to watch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do what you got to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: True.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the NFL has way more control over how this is going to look, because they're just going to be like, don't mess with the shield.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There, there are the only people who like have this power when it comes to like media to just be like we decide how it goes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So basically, it won't be too crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That would be very on fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll be back with you early next week, probably Tuesday Wednesday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As she'll you'll hear the.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The preview for the first game of the season, we'll get more into the travel stuff and but also just have the two teams match up against one another, get back in the flow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, October has any final words before we wrap this one up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, sorry, everyone, that we're still in preseason for.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know what we're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be better, come next time, but I'm just so excited for this season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited to talk about it with you, Robert, and I'm excited for all of you out there listening to us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it'll be fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a crazy season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No one really knows how the nine years are going to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No one knows really how well they should do even to begin with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So,
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[SPEAKER_01]: lots of opportunity and I think that's that's the most fun as a fan is when you're like I really don't know how this season's going to go you just got to sit back and watch the ride.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well said well said all right well until then we will say to you thanks for listening to this episode of the nine or no is podcast part of the fan side of podcast network please continue to check out nine or no is dot com for all your latest 49ers news and analysis.
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