Latest / I Choose Me with Jennie Garth / I Choose ... to Let My Faith Lead the Way with Janine Turner (pt 2)
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- 0:01Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Girl. Hello, everyone,
- 0:09Speaker 1: welcome back to I Choose Me. Janine Turner and I
- 0:12Speaker 1: are having the best time sharing stories about Hollywood back
- 0:17Speaker 1: in the day and what we're spending our time on
- 0:20Speaker 1: now that our beautiful girls are grown. Let's jump back in.
- 0:24Speaker 1: I just love that being at this stage in our
- 0:26Speaker 1: lives where our kids are grown and they need us less,
- 0:29Speaker 1: and we're sort of stepping into these unknown, new, exciting
- 0:33Speaker 1: versions of ourselves, you know, like kind of rediscovering passions
- 0:38Speaker 1: and trying things out that we put aside for to
- 0:43Speaker 1: put the other person first. What me time? How does
- 0:48Speaker 1: me time look for you now these days?
- 0:51Speaker 2: Well, I have my mother with me, so I don't
- 0:53Speaker 2: exactly have me time. Yes, that's a full time job.
- 0:57Speaker 2: She's eighty eight, in her eighty ninth year, and.
- 1:00Speaker 1: You're solely taking care of her.
- 1:01Speaker 2: Yes, I'm her sole caretaker. She's going to go stay
- 1:04Speaker 2: with my brother for about ten days. Oh my gosh,
- 1:06Speaker 2: what are you going to do? I know, well, I
- 1:08Speaker 2: have a South Fork experience. I'm going to this Dallas
- 1:11Speaker 2: kind of convention and she I've taken her with me
- 1:14Speaker 2: to New York City. D c Tennessee, La. And I thought, well,
- 1:18Speaker 2: maybe it's my brother's turn. But I don't know what
- 1:21Speaker 2: I'm gonna do for a week without her, because I'll
- 1:22Speaker 2: worry about her.
- 1:24Speaker 3: But I think that I've written a musical. You know,
- 1:28Speaker 3: it's interesting, isn't it.
- 1:29Speaker 2: I look back now and say, I wouldn't mind having
- 1:31Speaker 2: some career opportunities again. I do love to act. It
- 1:35Speaker 2: would be fun to book another role where I didn't have,
- 1:39Speaker 2: where I could actually put my heart and soul into
- 1:40Speaker 2: it again, like Northern Exposure. But also I've written a
- 1:43Speaker 2: musical about Bellevia Lockwood, who was the first woman to
- 1:47Speaker 2: actually run for president in eighteen eighty four on the ballot,
- 1:49Speaker 2: but she was the first woman admitted to the bar
- 1:51Speaker 2: of the United States Supreme Court. When they wouldn't allow her,
- 1:55Speaker 2: they kept saying no, so she took it to the
- 1:56Speaker 2: legislative branch and to the other branches of gum to
- 2:00Speaker 2: say you can't deny me. And then she ended up
- 2:03Speaker 2: taking one of the greatest cases and the most award
- 2:06Speaker 2: winning financial cases in history, which is for the Native
- 2:09Speaker 2: America is the Cherokee Nation versus the United States to
- 2:13Speaker 2: get their money for the trail of tears for the
- 2:15Speaker 2: land they had to give up. So she's a phenomenal
- 2:18Speaker 2: And you know, look, I started out as dancer and
- 2:21Speaker 2: a singer, but I really haven't done that in about
- 2:24Speaker 2: forty decades. So this is a bucket list challenge for myself.
- 2:28Speaker 2: I've written a book, I've written the lyrics and I
- 2:30Speaker 2: want to star in it. And I've had two readings
- 2:32Speaker 2: in New York where I actually had to sing in
- 2:35Speaker 2: front of people.
- 2:36Speaker 1: Are you not comfortable singing? Because I'm surely not comfortable singing.
- 2:41Speaker 2: Well no, I mean it's not comfortable for me. No,
- 2:45Speaker 2: but I do love it because I started in dance,
- 2:48Speaker 2: in musical comedy and musical theater. And it's a bucket
- 2:51Speaker 2: list So it's one of those things, Jenny. You know
- 2:54Speaker 2: what it's like as people like, oh, sure, they roll
- 2:55Speaker 2: their eyes. You know you're going to You're gonna direct
- 2:58Speaker 2: and write a musical?
- 2:59Speaker 3: Oh roll in my eyes.
- 3:00Speaker 1: I'm like you, No, I know.
- 3:03Speaker 2: But you people do people do like sure, sure, But
- 3:07Speaker 2: it's just like that that dry that that motivates me more.
- 3:10Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll show you. Yeah, I'll get it done. My
- 3:13Speaker 3: tall while.
- 3:14Speaker 1: You you have a very clear vision of the things
- 3:18Speaker 1: that you want, get married, have a wedding, and get
- 3:23Speaker 1: this musical to happen, Like you know what they say.
- 3:26Speaker 1: I mean, there's just more and more talk about this,
- 3:29Speaker 1: and it's more than manifestation. It's about like having your
- 3:34Speaker 1: what you want in your mind's eye and imagining what
- 3:38Speaker 1: your life will be like when you have what you want,
- 3:42Speaker 1: and if you can connect with that imagery, your body
- 3:45Speaker 1: and your world around you just takes you towards it.
- 3:48Speaker 1: The universe takes you towards Yeah, it's the energy this
- 3:52Speaker 1: I believe in that.
- 3:53Speaker 3: It's funny I worked with.
- 3:54Speaker 2: I have that post on my Someone at the Comic
- 3:57Speaker 2: Con in Tennessee brought a picture of me when I
- 3:59Speaker 2: was on Happy Days and I was like twenty one
- 4:01Speaker 2: years old. It's when I was dating Alec and I
- 4:02Speaker 2: read my my wist.
- 4:04Speaker 3: My waist was about this big, and I'm like, oh,
- 4:08Speaker 3: not fair.
- 4:08Speaker 2: You have to wring to a woman who's sixty two
- 4:11Speaker 2: but on Happy Days. Henry Winkler looked at me. It
- 4:15Speaker 2: was Gary Marshall, of course, you know. But Henry Luker said.
- 4:17Speaker 3: Do you know what you want? And I'm like, oh, yeah,
- 4:19Speaker 3: like sure, and.
- 4:20Speaker 2: You said, write it down, write it down, write down
- 4:23Speaker 2: what you want. And then I was in New York City,
- 4:25Speaker 2: Molly and I ever heard it again, write down what
- 4:27Speaker 2: you want to accomplish, But I always add healthily, happily
- 4:30Speaker 2: and safely after it. Right. That's because you don't want
- 4:34Speaker 2: to manifest something into your life that's at the expense
- 4:37Speaker 2: of something else or someone else.
- 4:39Speaker 3: So it's I think you.
- 4:40Speaker 2: Have to be very cle You are right, you have
- 4:42Speaker 2: to be very clear about how you put it out there.
- 4:45Speaker 1: I'm writing that down healthily, happy, happily, and safely. That's
- 4:51Speaker 1: perfection because yeah, you just you know, the saying, be
- 4:55Speaker 1: careful what you wish for. But if if we add
- 4:59Speaker 1: that to the these these goals of ourselves, then I
- 5:02Speaker 1: think that that would cover all the the chances of
- 5:06Speaker 1: bad things happening.
- 5:07Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I put it in prayer because I just
- 5:09Speaker 2: wanted to happen the right way for the right reasons
- 5:11Speaker 2: and things that nature.
- 5:12Speaker 3: But it's a challenge trying to get a Broadway show going.
- 5:14Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, the money you have to raise and
- 5:17Speaker 2: people they don't. I don't know about you, but in
- 5:21Speaker 2: my early early career, the first job I ever booked
- 5:24Speaker 2: was with David Jacobs, who created Dallas. That was an
- 5:27Speaker 2: easy booking for me, though I didn't really value it
- 5:29Speaker 2: because I wanted to be a movie star. I wanted
- 5:30Speaker 2: to be Nastasia Kinski. I wanted to eat strawberries, you know,
- 5:34Speaker 2: and the movie tests but look, But after that it
- 5:37Speaker 2: became quite the challenge, and all because General Hospital was
- 5:41Speaker 2: good for me, but maybe not so great because I
- 5:43Speaker 2: was blonde and I walked around for a year. Not
- 5:46Speaker 2: that blonde has anything to do with it, but I
- 5:48Speaker 2: was hypnotized by David Gray if you probably never watched it,
- 5:51Speaker 2: and all I said.
- 5:53Speaker 3: Was I don't know, I don't know. I just don't know.
- 5:56Speaker 2: So it was sort of a role that didn't have
- 5:57Speaker 2: a lot of meat, and it took me a lot
- 5:59Speaker 2: of time, a lot of years to get.
- 6:00Speaker 3: Away from that. But all those people that looked at their.
- 6:03Speaker 2: Watches and casting sessions and rolled their eyes and didn't
- 6:06Speaker 2: believe in us, I mean, it's that world of ten
- 6:08Speaker 2: thousand no's.
- 6:09Speaker 3: So I'm very used to it. So when people look
- 6:12Speaker 3: at me and say, ye, I'm not going to be
- 6:13Speaker 3: able to accomplish that on Broadway, give.
- 6:16Speaker 1: Me some time, I think it's going to happen. I mean,
- 6:19Speaker 1: you're just like I said, you're just laser focused. I
- 6:21Speaker 1: think that that's the key.
- 6:23Speaker 2: Well, God give me the strength to sing it, that's
- 6:25Speaker 2: all I can say.
- 6:26Speaker 1: Yeah, what an amazing opportunity though, that's gonna be so
- 6:36Speaker 1: going back to me time though writing this musical. What
- 6:40Speaker 1: other things just like on the daily do you incorporate
- 6:44Speaker 1: into your lifestyle that keep you grounded or like you know,
- 6:48Speaker 1: that's your me time that's replenishing for your soul.
- 6:52Speaker 3: Well, Bible.
- 6:53Speaker 2: First in the morning, I have a prayer group and
- 6:56Speaker 2: so we get on for thirty minutes and we don't
- 6:58Speaker 2: really cross talk. We just don't get on care and
- 7:00Speaker 2: we just pray over it with each other. And that's incredibly.
- 7:06Speaker 3: God.
- 7:06Speaker 2: On the days I miss it, I can tell I
- 7:09Speaker 2: created that based off a church. I did that with
- 7:11Speaker 2: a church in New York City, and I thought, oh,
- 7:13Speaker 2: I really like that, so I sort of created my own.
- 7:16Speaker 2: And then it goes back to you know, I have
- 7:19Speaker 2: a foundation constituting America, which is nonpartisan.
- 7:23Speaker 3: We don't get involved in politics.
- 7:24Speaker 2: We never taught politics because the Constitution was created before
- 7:28Speaker 2: the political parties.
- 7:29Speaker 1: I was going to ask you about this, that's so interesting.
- 7:32Speaker 2: Yeah, I created it in twenty ten, my daughter was
- 7:34Speaker 2: about twelve. She became the first National Youth Director for
- 7:37Speaker 2: Constituting in America. And I wrote eighty five essays on
- 7:42Speaker 2: the eighty five Federals papers Things that nature, and became
- 7:46Speaker 2: I became sort of academic in this field. But I
- 7:49Speaker 2: give over six I've given over six hundred speeches. And
- 7:53Speaker 2: it's great to go into the classrooms because what I
- 7:56Speaker 2: teach the kids is it's really remember it's we the people,
- 7:59Speaker 2: you know, and it's you vote that's important. But and
- 8:02Speaker 2: I ask them what they want to change in their neighborhood,
- 8:04Speaker 2: because I want to make it tactile for middle school
- 8:07Speaker 2: students or fifth grade students or freshmen. And they'll say, oh,
- 8:10Speaker 2: you know, I don't want it to pay twenty dollars
- 8:13Speaker 2: for the community pool pool key, you know what I mean.
- 8:17Speaker 2: Or too many dogs off leashes, we need too many drugs,
- 8:21Speaker 2: too much trash, We need more street lights, we need
- 8:23Speaker 2: people drive through.
- 8:24Speaker 3: Whatever they say.
- 8:25Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, okay, let's learn how to write
- 8:26Speaker 2: a petition, and let's write you know, these these rights
- 8:30Speaker 2: of speech and things of that nature, speech, petitioning, freedom, assembly, press,
- 8:37Speaker 2: How important all that is. It's not just so we
- 8:39Speaker 2: can talk freely on social media. It's to utilize it
- 8:42Speaker 2: with our government, so the minorities can speak out, or
- 8:45Speaker 2: even someone in a majority, and so I'll take whatever
- 8:49Speaker 2: they and teach them how to write a petition. So
- 8:51Speaker 2: I'm very involved with that. I love to read, that's
- 8:53Speaker 2: me time. I love obviously to be out in nature.
- 8:58Speaker 2: I also I circle back to just the creativity. Whether
- 9:02Speaker 2: I wrote a book of poetry, I've written poet.
- 9:04Speaker 3: Gosh, you've done it all well. But it's focused on
- 9:09Speaker 3: creativity right right.
- 9:11Speaker 2: And I think that it doesn't matter if you're any
- 9:13Speaker 2: I have my mother draw and write, because it doesn't
- 9:16Speaker 2: matter if you're any good editor or not.
- 9:17Speaker 3: It's just the process of it is soothing.
- 9:21Speaker 2: I'm not an artist at all, but I still love
- 9:24Speaker 2: to do that type of thing. But poetry really helps
- 9:27Speaker 2: to kind of take maybe the ankst that I'm feeling,
- 9:30Speaker 2: or the sadness or the where I'm overwhelmed. Just to
- 9:33Speaker 2: put pen or pencil to paper. That's me time. And
- 9:37Speaker 2: to be with my pets and to goad on the ranch.
- 9:39Speaker 1: Oh those are all so great.
- 9:41Speaker 3: But during COVID, I wrote the music with for my musical.
- 9:43Speaker 3: During COVID.
- 9:45Speaker 2: I found a wonderful composer and she was in Florida
- 9:49Speaker 2: and we would just get on once or twice a
- 9:50Speaker 2: week and compose the music over Zoom.
- 9:54Speaker 1: Amazing Zoom is the best thing ever. I think, Well, yeah,
- 9:56Speaker 1: isn't isn't.
- 9:57Speaker 2: I mean we complying about COVID in the A lot
- 10:00Speaker 2: of negative things, But.
- 10:01Speaker 3: Isn't this amazing? This all came out of that.
- 10:04Speaker 1: This amazing. So many good things have come out of
- 10:07Speaker 1: it for a lot of people. Unfortunately a lot of
- 10:08Speaker 1: people the opposite. But what a time. But I love
- 10:12Speaker 1: that you used it to sort of like dive back
- 10:14Speaker 1: into your creative self. I want to talk just for
- 10:20Speaker 1: a second about the constitution constituting America that you founded.
- 10:25Speaker 1: How Like there's so much political screaming happening right now
- 10:31Speaker 1: every time you turn on the TV. It's really hard
- 10:34Speaker 1: to feel settled, safe grounded with all of that going on.
- 10:39Speaker 1: How do you recommend people handle what's happening?
- 10:45Speaker 2: You know, it just came to me, you're in with
- 10:46Speaker 2: the TV show just the facts man, Just the facts.
- 10:49Speaker 3: No, I don't remember a TV.
- 10:51Speaker 2: Show was that it was, you said, just the facts man,
- 10:54Speaker 2: just the facts. So many listening will know it was
- 10:57Speaker 2: a detective story. It was a detective story, okay. And
- 11:00Speaker 2: he was like, just the facts, ma'am. And you know,
- 11:04Speaker 2: I think it boils down to that. I created a
- 11:07Speaker 2: program through I create all the programs with my foundation
- 11:10Speaker 2: const TOU in America have a great CEO, Kathy Lesbie's
- 11:13Speaker 2: my dear best friend. But one of the I was
- 11:15Speaker 2: brushing my teeth one day and I was having a
- 11:17Speaker 2: conversation in my head with say, someone in Hollywood, right,
- 11:22Speaker 2: and I could hear how they would negate everything. I
- 11:25Speaker 2: was trying to say. I'm like, but no, we just
- 11:26Speaker 2: need to have a conversation about it. And so I
- 11:29Speaker 2: created this program, which is how to have a civil
- 11:34Speaker 2: civic conversation. And we go into the schools and find
- 11:39Speaker 2: a hot topic, whatever it might be, whether it's immigration,
- 11:42Speaker 2: gun control, climate change, whatever it might be, and we'll.
- 11:47Speaker 3: Say, okay, we're going to talk about this today. Who
- 11:49Speaker 3: believes in it and who does it?
- 11:50Speaker 2: And usually about twenty five students will say I believe
- 11:53Speaker 2: in global warming or you know, climate change, and.
- 11:56Speaker 3: Then two or three will say I don't know, you know.
- 11:59Speaker 2: And I'm always stounded with those three just to go
- 12:02Speaker 2: against the grain, just to be brave enough to say.
- 12:04Speaker 3: Well, you know, I don't know, right.
- 12:06Speaker 2: So we talk to them about where do you get
- 12:10Speaker 2: your news, how do you form your opinions? And then
- 12:15Speaker 2: we give them a pro and con sheet which has
- 12:18Speaker 2: pro and con on whatever topic it may be, and
- 12:23Speaker 2: I say, now you take the opposite if you believe
- 12:25Speaker 2: in it, take the con whatever.
- 12:27Speaker 3: It may be.
- 12:28Speaker 2: Circle three things that you never knew, and let's talk
- 12:32Speaker 2: about it. And we're not trying to change our minds,
- 12:34Speaker 2: but it's just learning that there's a broad scope of
- 12:37Speaker 2: information out there, and let's try to listen to the
- 12:40Speaker 2: opposing points of views. And what starts to happen is
- 12:43Speaker 2: I think we get these fringe really radical on both sides.
- 12:47Speaker 2: And sometimes fringes are good because there's a balance. I
- 12:50Speaker 2: think there's always a swing in our government in our
- 12:53Speaker 2: history where we go back and forth.
- 12:55Speaker 3: But there are a lot of us that just.
- 12:57Speaker 2: Want to be in the middle and have a real
- 12:59Speaker 2: conversation with you each other and to base it on
- 13:01Speaker 2: sort of the common core of common sense. And I'll
- 13:04Speaker 2: harken back to our founding fathers. If they had not
- 13:08Speaker 2: been able to negotiate with each other, whether it's during
- 13:11Speaker 2: the Declaration of Independence of the Constitution, and of course
- 13:14Speaker 2: there were things that were not solved at all, like
- 13:19Speaker 2: slavery and women's right to vote and things that nature.
- 13:22Speaker 2: But if they couldn't have a conversation, then we wouldn't
- 13:24Speaker 2: have anything, We wouldn't be anywhere, we probably wouldn't have freedom.
- 13:27Speaker 2: It's like trying to listen to their opposing points of
- 13:30Speaker 2: view is absolutely pivotal, and it's so hard because we're
- 13:34Speaker 2: force fed all this controversy. Yea, but what we hear
- 13:38Speaker 2: on the news and someone said it something really interesting.
- 13:40Speaker 2: Once we used to watch local news, and local news
- 13:44Speaker 2: dealt with our communities and when you got into your community,
- 13:47Speaker 2: which is why I love federalism, because our founders believed
- 13:50Speaker 2: if you watched Northern exposure and we had all these
- 13:52Speaker 2: town halls where the Alaskan people would come and have
- 13:54Speaker 2: a town hall, and they'd all stand up and do it,
- 13:57Speaker 2: because we might want something very different here than they
- 14:01Speaker 2: want in New York or Miami or Wyoming and wherever
- 14:03Speaker 2: it may be. And a republic can only really survive
- 14:06Speaker 2: in such a broad country if community can still have
- 14:09Speaker 2: their own sense of power. So coming together as a community.
- 14:13Speaker 2: It's nothing all about northern exposure. Everybody was out in
- 14:15Speaker 2: the town, they were out in the street, They're at
- 14:17Speaker 2: Hollings Bar, they were talking with one another. We can't
- 14:21Speaker 2: lose that sense of community in our own neighborhoods. I
- 14:24Speaker 2: think that that's incredibly, incredibly important, and our founding documents
- 14:28Speaker 2: give us ability with mayors, you know, PTA councils for education,
- 14:36Speaker 2: local local city government, state government, then national government. So
- 14:40Speaker 2: it's remembering that that there are other levels of government too.
- 14:43Speaker 2: I think everybody thinks when they vote for the president,
- 14:45Speaker 2: that's it, but like, wait, the president's never supposed to
- 14:47Speaker 2: have that much power. Your legislator and your neighborhood is
- 14:51Speaker 2: the person that can really help you. That's why the
- 14:54Speaker 2: legislative branch is first in the constitution. So it's really
- 14:57Speaker 2: about putting the noise out and finding common ground. Maybe
- 15:00Speaker 2: not but at least being able to have a discussion.
- 15:03Speaker 1: Yeah, a civil discussion. I think that, you know, the
- 15:07Speaker 1: key of what you just said is encouraging people to listen,
- 15:12Speaker 1: to hear the other person's perspective is so important. That's
- 15:16Speaker 1: just with politics or government, but with everything. Well, you're
- 15:21Speaker 1: just honestly of wealth of knowledge. You're delightful to talk to.
- 15:27Speaker 1: I feel like I've learned just by talking to you,
- 15:29Speaker 1: and I've enjoyed our conversation so much. But before I
- 15:33Speaker 1: let you go, Janine Heurner, what was your last I
- 15:36Speaker 1: choose me moment.
- 15:40Speaker 3: To put the phone down for a little while, you know.
- 15:44Speaker 2: To say, I'm my mother's with me now, and it
- 15:47Speaker 2: gets very complicated, and I thought, we're just going to
- 15:50Speaker 2: put the phone away for a while to learn that,
- 15:55Speaker 2: you know, texting isn't always a great thing. Is a
- 15:59Speaker 2: conversation are still better and face is still better. And
- 16:03Speaker 2: so to kind of say, I am going to turn
- 16:07Speaker 2: this phone on when I know I'm at a place
- 16:10Speaker 2: where i can handle what I'm going to see, and
- 16:12Speaker 2: I'm at a place where i can handle what I'm
- 16:15Speaker 2: going to hear.
- 16:17Speaker 3: You know what I mean, and then I can cope
- 16:18Speaker 3: with it.
- 16:19Speaker 2: So I think a lot of times we've become overwhelmed
- 16:21Speaker 2: because we're just barraged with so many things at once.
- 16:23Speaker 1: And so it's the power to be able to say
- 16:25Speaker 1: I'm gonna put that aside, I'm going to wait for
- 16:27Speaker 1: a little bit. That's a huge I choose me moment.
- 16:30Speaker 1: I love it it's hard to do. Yeah, thank you
- 16:35Speaker 1: so much for me.
- 16:36Speaker 3: Thank you, You're terrific.
- 16:37Speaker 2: Thanks for this fabulous podcast you have and everything that
- 16:40Speaker 2: you've You're shining in such light on all of us,
- 16:43Speaker 2: and God bless you. You're doing a beautiful, wonderful job
- 16:47Speaker 2: and with every aspect of your life, no matter what
- 16:49Speaker 2: you choose.
- 16:50Speaker 1: Thank you.