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Normally Podcast: Democrats Go Far Left, AOC Eyes 2028 & the WNBA Faces a Gender Reckoning · Normally

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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to normally the show with normalist takes,
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Speaker 1: but when your news gets weird. I'm Carol Markowitz. Mary
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Speaker 1: Catherine ham Is on vacation, and my guest co host
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Speaker 1: today is Tim Young. Tim is a Heritage Media fellow
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Speaker 1: Dallas Express Media editor, a comedian, a host, a speaker,
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Speaker 1: an author, and he has this excellent X account. Tim
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Speaker 1: runs his mouth because he really does. Hi, Tim, so
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Speaker 1: nice to have you on.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me here. It's very exciting. You know,
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Speaker 2: I'm not quite Mary Catherine Hamm, but I'll do my best.
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Speaker 1: You're not. Nobody is, but you know I had full
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Speaker 1: faith in you and that's why I asked you to
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Speaker 1: be on today. We're going to cover some news today.
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Speaker 1: We're going to start with the midterms. As we're recording this,
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Speaker 1: the day of this airing will be August eleventh, and
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Speaker 1: there'll be a few interesting races coming up, including in
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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Senate where Angie Craig, who's you know, they
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Speaker 1: say moderate House Democrat whatever, is facing Peggy Flanagan, who
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Speaker 1: is a progressive for the Democratic nomination to replace retiring
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Speaker 1: Senator Tina Smith. Also in that part of the world,
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Speaker 1: Francesca Hong is running in a four way Democratic contest
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Speaker 1: against Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley for governor, and she's
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Speaker 1: been kind of all over the news. She's been all
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Speaker 1: the air in the room, really, and it's just where
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Speaker 1: the Democrats are headed, right, They're they're having their very
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Speaker 1: communist moment.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, these are these are really weird, kind of youngish
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Speaker 2: looking candidates to I do give them credit for putting
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Speaker 2: up younger looking people and more theater kids than than
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Speaker 2: the Republicans. You know, I'd like to see younger faces
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Speaker 2: from the Republican side that aren't crazy, obviously, right, But
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Speaker 2: Hong and the Democrats are really it's really interesting. You know,
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Speaker 2: I've never heard of a candidate that wants to ban Thanksgiving.
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Speaker 1: I actually fully called this in twenty twenty, which wasn't
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Speaker 1: an impossible thing to do. That Thanksgiving was going to
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Speaker 1: have to be on the chopping block in the next
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Speaker 1: few years, because that's where they were going, right. I Mean,
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Speaker 1: we'll get into it in the next segment. But when
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Speaker 1: AOC's talking about Wok one was crazy, that's what Wok
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Speaker 1: one was. They were heading in the direction of we
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Speaker 1: really can't have holidays like Thanksgiving.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but again, and I don't want to jump into
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Speaker 2: the next topic, but it's sort of like, look at
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Speaker 2: the left hand, and the right hand's going to keep
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Speaker 2: doing the same thing it's been doing the entire time.
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Speaker 2: When you take a look at what Abigail Spamberger did
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Speaker 2: the moment, literally the moment. They didn't even take a
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Speaker 2: break after she got elected in Virginia. They pretend to
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Speaker 2: be moderate, they lie to your face about what they'll
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Speaker 2: do policy wise, and as soon as Democrats get in,
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Speaker 2: they will do everything they can do to go as
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Speaker 2: far left as possible and then maintain that power for
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Speaker 2: as long as possible.
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Speaker 1: Right. And I think that the fact that they're running these,
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Speaker 1: like you said, photogenic young people, it's very smart, obviously,
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Speaker 1: but it's baffling to me that the Democratic Party is
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Speaker 1: allowing this to go on. These people are openly saying
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Speaker 1: we're going to overthrow the Democratic Party. It won't exist anymore.
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Speaker 1: It'll be the DSA. And that seems to be okay, because, oh,
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Speaker 1: these people have the energy and we need to lean
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Speaker 1: into that.
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Speaker 2: Well, when you're looking at a party that I believe
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Speaker 2: is still seventeen million dollars in the whole or something
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Speaker 2: like that. Right now, they don't have much choice. Maybe
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Speaker 2: they can't afford like real consultants or real campaigns anymore.
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Speaker 2: So they're they're dealing with theater kids who lived at
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Speaker 2: home and never had to work a day in their lives.
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Speaker 2: That's that's what they've been reduced to due to a
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Speaker 2: lack of budget.
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Speaker 1: But like Chuck Schumer's been around the block. He knows
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Speaker 1: what's going on here. How does he not care?
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Speaker 2: Okay, that's a tough one. You know, maybe it's how
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Speaker 2: old is he now?
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Speaker 1: Eight hundred and five?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, old? And maybe he just doesn't care anymore.
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Speaker 2: You take a look at these guys, at some point,
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Speaker 2: it probably just becomes I mean, not that politics isn't
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Speaker 2: already a selfish game. You know, God blessed the few
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Speaker 2: people who are altruistic, but at some point, maybe they
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Speaker 2: just stop caring and that you know, he's he's farting
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Speaker 2: on the floor of the Senate now. He literally is
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Speaker 2: just kind of you know, he's not recognized and people
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Speaker 2: boo him when he goes out in New York. I
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Speaker 2: think he's just going along to get along. And at
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Speaker 2: some point, you know, this has been your career for
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Speaker 2: forty years, fifty years, you just stop caring.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe maybe that's it, or maybe he's been a
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Speaker 1: communist all along also, and his you know, kind of
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Speaker 1: covered it up a little bit. But he's had moments
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Speaker 1: where he said things that I considered far far left,
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Speaker 1: like where he said every single illegal immigrant needs a
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Speaker 1: path citizenship. I mean that was a few just a
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Speaker 1: few years ago. So he's not like, it's not like
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Speaker 1: they're moderates, right, they were always leftists, but like this
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Speaker 1: new leftism is going to overtake them and get rid
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Speaker 1: of them completely. And I don't know how they're standing
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Speaker 1: for it.
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Speaker 2: Is that communist to give everybody a path to citizenship
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Speaker 2: acrosses the border or is that them just wanting to
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Speaker 2: have the last large potential voting block lockdown for themselves.
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Speaker 3: I mean both, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, if you need
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Speaker 3: to have this new base of people who are voting
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Speaker 3: for you and also paying into all your programs because
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Speaker 3: your people aren't having kids, it's.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's a little bit from column An, a
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Speaker 1: little bit from columb.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, just a touch of ever, just a sprinkle of everything.
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Speaker 2: No big deal.
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Speaker 1: Well, what's your prediction, what do you think happens in
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Speaker 1: the midterms. Do Republicans hold anything right now? I think
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Speaker 1: the polling has the House as a Democratic flip and
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Speaker 1: the Senate as a Republican hold. Do you think that's
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Speaker 1: how it shakes out.
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Speaker 2: I think Republicans win everything in spite of themselves. You know,
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Speaker 2: they can't pass to say that. Yeah, I think they
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Speaker 2: stumble into it. I think it's going to be a
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Speaker 2: small margin again, but I think it's a stumble into it.
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Speaker 2: And I have a couple of friends who run these
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Speaker 2: kind of like wargames politically to see what's going to happen.
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Speaker 2: And by friends, I mean large organizations. They work for
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Speaker 2: these big works. And the way it's shaken out right now,
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Speaker 2: it's literally Republicans win in spite of themselves. I really
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Speaker 2: do not look forward to the headache that we get
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Speaker 2: in the House if Democrats take it. But I think
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Speaker 2: it's going to be a narrow one and Republicans taken it.
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Speaker 2: And it's because of these extreme candidates that are moving forward.
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Speaker 1: Interesting, okay, because I'm bracing for the worst possible scenario.
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Speaker 1: It's what the thing is is that Trump's approval is
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Speaker 1: so hard to nail down. He has right now. You know,
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Speaker 1: the headlines are all saying the lowest approval ever. But
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Speaker 1: the thing about Trump is that I don't trust any
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Speaker 1: numbers when it comes to him specifically. I'm you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm not a polling denier or whatever we're called these days,
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Speaker 1: but Trump just never polls correctly. People won't admit to
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Speaker 1: a polster on the phone that they support Donald Trump,
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Speaker 1: and that's been the case the entire time he's been around.
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Speaker 1: So I don't know what to think when these polls
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Speaker 1: have him at thirty five percent approval sixty two percent disapproval.
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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that's possible, but I'm just not sure.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think that Trump matters as much
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Speaker 2: when you take a look at how hated Congress is.
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Speaker 2: What's what's Congress's current approval rating. It usually floats around twelve, right,
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Speaker 2: It's like really low. But yet the locally, the same
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Speaker 2: people keep getting re elected. So ultimately, I don't think
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Speaker 2: Trump's approval means anything. Maybe a little bit, But as
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Speaker 2: far as these local races go, and being a midterm election,
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Speaker 2: it's all up to the candidates and who's door knocking
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Speaker 2: enough and getting out in the in the public.
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Speaker 1: The ground game. You say, yeah, that sounds right. I
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Speaker 1: didn't expect optimism from you, but I like to see it.
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Speaker 2: I don't have optimism. I think this is I think.
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Speaker 1: Republicans keeping the house in Senate is pretty optimistic.
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Speaker 2: But I'm at the same time saying they suck. They
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Speaker 2: like they're not they deserve to win. They yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 2: we're not communists. They don't deserve to win, but they're
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Speaker 2: gonna stumble to a victory. It's like one of those
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Speaker 2: things you go, oh, they'll learn nothing from this. It's
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Speaker 2: it's sort of like all of the consultant class and
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Speaker 2: all of the Republicans who took credit for Trump winning
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Speaker 2: the first time. It's like, you guys did nothing like
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Speaker 2: this guy like came in and he was just so
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Speaker 2: different that he got a populist movement behind him in
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Speaker 2: one This is one of those like, I don't know,
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Speaker 2: not to be repetitive here. They just don't deserve it,
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Speaker 2: but they're going to do it.
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Speaker 1: You know, I hear you, And yet I still fear
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Speaker 1: this communist future and whatever. Like a squishy Republican who
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Speaker 1: sucks is still a million times better than you know,
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Speaker 1: a Hong who wants no Thanksgiving and no police and
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Speaker 1: no prisons and all the rest of the stuff that
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Speaker 1: comes with their insane platform. And so if it's going
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Speaker 1: to have to be Republicans who suck, that's who it is.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's where we are, which is not a
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Speaker 2: good place to be.
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Speaker 1: Well, we're going to take a short break and come
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Speaker 1: right back with another segment of Normally, where we will
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Speaker 1: get into all the crazy things these people believe.
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Speaker 2: Be right back.
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Speaker 1: We are back on Normally, where Tim Young is guest
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Speaker 1: co hosting for Mary Catherine Ham who's on vacation. And
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Speaker 1: Tim is doing a great job right now. I hope
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Speaker 1: you're all enjoying his amazing insights. I am so.
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Speaker 2: I can't believe you have the podcast IP normally. I
9:21
Speaker 2: don't know how did you get that?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't even know what an IP podcast.
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Speaker 2: Intellectual property having a podcast called normally, that's wild to me.
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Speaker 1: It's funny because we tried for some other variations on normal,
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Speaker 1: use it, and that really frustrates me.
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Speaker 2: Now, if your name was Ali, see, that would be
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Speaker 2: like a whole thing there. You could be Norman Ali Nale.
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Speaker 1: Right, an ally of an ally of the norm?
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Speaker 2: Is that what it is?
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Speaker 1: No, it's not, but it could be, right, it should.
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Speaker 2: Be, because you really aren't, like as as far as
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Speaker 2: all these I'm just I'm just gonna go ahead and
10:12
Speaker 2: take every podcast for a second, as far as all
10:15
Speaker 2: these other crazy people out there, you really are an
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Speaker 2: ally of the norm and a very logical saying and
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Speaker 2: intelligent person. It makes a lot of sense.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. That's what we go for here
10:24
Speaker 1: on Normally. We try to be normal people, doing normal
10:27
Speaker 1: things and saying normal things and believing normal things and
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Speaker 1: pointing out when things are abnormal. Yeah, so what's abnormal?
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Speaker 1: Francesca Hong has old tweets calling for abolishing prisons and
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Speaker 1: the police, and apparently we shouldn't be concerned with any
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Speaker 1: of that because look, it was a crazy time, a crazy,
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Speaker 1: crazy time. Here's AOC on this week defending this standing.
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Speaker 2: Is that is that Francesca Hong has made clear her
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Speaker 2: presence dances.
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Speaker 1: To her life.
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Speaker 2: She's moved away from right.
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Speaker 1: She's moved away from it. And I have a local
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Speaker 1: city councilman that has this saying woke one was crazy, crazy.
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Speaker 1: She wants to move away from whatever the insane stuff
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Speaker 1: was from twenty twenty and it was insane and they
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Speaker 1: said so many crazy things and they did so many
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Speaker 1: crazy things, and now this like, haha, we were just
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Speaker 1: kind of kidding about it. I don't buy it. First
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Speaker 1: of all, I think that they're just trying to win
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Speaker 1: an election. They haven't moved away from anything. But second,
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Speaker 1: imagine having a media where they were asked like, what
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Speaker 1: specifically do you not believe anymore? What specifically are you
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Speaker 1: sorry for saying and believing and pushing on the rest
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Speaker 1: of us. But obviously, Tim, we don't have that kind
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Speaker 1: of media.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, also, they haven't changed any opinions whatsoever. They're
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Speaker 2: just trying to label it differently. And at least now
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Speaker 2: she's saying that woke was a thing because for a
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Speaker 2: while and I don't check this using AI she claimed
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Speaker 2: for a long time AOC that the term woke was
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Speaker 2: created by the right, and then it was used to
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Speaker 2: weaponize and make the left look bad. So at least
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Speaker 2: she's saying that woke is real this time. But there
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Speaker 2: is nothing accurate about these people. Again, this is Abigail Spamberger.
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Speaker 2: You got to take a look at what happened in Virginia.
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Speaker 2: They are literally going to lie to you. They're going
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Speaker 2: to say that this isn't their ideas, this isn't what
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Speaker 2: they want to stand for, and then they'll go right
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Speaker 2: into office and do exactly what they just lied about.
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Speaker 1: Right, So, Mary Katherine Ham is from Virginia. We've covered
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Speaker 1: Abigail Spamberger lying her way into office a lot on here,
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Speaker 1: pretending to be a moderate and running as a moderate
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Speaker 1: but actually governing as a leftist. AOC and CO can't
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Speaker 1: really do that. They can't run as moderates. They can
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Speaker 1: only walk back their most fringy positions, and I don't
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Speaker 1: really think they have. Again, if we had a media
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Speaker 1: that asked questions, we could ask what do you think
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Speaker 1: of biological boys and girls' sports? What do you think
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Speaker 1: of Christopher Columbus statute is? What do you think of
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Speaker 1: all the things that we were forced to say were
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Speaker 1: bad in the early twenty twenties. I mean, not we
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Speaker 1: me and you, but we larger people who had to
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Speaker 1: put black squares on their social media and did really
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Speaker 1: insane stuff like that. What about all that? What about
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Speaker 1: all the things that you made people walk the line
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Speaker 1: and believe? What about cancel culture? That apparently cancel culture
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Speaker 1: is something that they no longer believe in or they
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Speaker 1: actually kind of portray it as something we did, something
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Speaker 1: that the right foisted on them, and it's not exactly
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Speaker 1: how I remember it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, I mean they also tried to put forward
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Speaker 2: these like very white, like masculine looking guys like Grand
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Speaker 2: Platner that we learned to know too much about actual Nazis.
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Speaker 2: They were like, hey, oh, our electorate to love that.
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Speaker 2: You know, I blame in all of this. You make
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Speaker 2: a very good point about the media not pushing back.
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Speaker 2: What has the right done when you have all these
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Speaker 2: large organizations? Hope, boy, you're going to get myself in trouble,
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Speaker 2: These large organizations that are out there that collect millions
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Speaker 2: of dollars to change our culture, and everything has shifted
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Speaker 2: left with basically nothing moving right other than what Trump
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Speaker 2: has done just kind of like on his own really
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Speaker 2: with his team. You take a look at all the
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Speaker 2: money that's getting sunk in by donors in these organizations
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Speaker 2: and all these people who are supposed to be moving
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Speaker 2: the needle back, and nothing has moved back to the
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Speaker 2: right except when the left pretends they're that they are.
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Speaker 2: And so for me watching this cultural shift, we're not
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Speaker 2: looking at the fifty thousand foot And I know you're
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Speaker 2: because you're an ally of the norm. You take a
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Speaker 2: look at this and you can kind of see it
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Speaker 2: for the bigger picture. I don't think a lot of
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Speaker 2: people are realizing how much money and how much grift.
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Speaker 2: And when we say grift, I'm not talking about individuals
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Speaker 2: who are, like you know, spreading conspiracy theories on our
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Speaker 2: side and doing things. I'm talking about grift of organizations
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Speaker 2: that claim that they've been moving this needle with million
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Speaker 2: dollar paid CEOs that are doing nothing and have done
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Speaker 2: nothing except collect money and do a little a dance
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Speaker 2: for donors for years. The right. Again, like I said earlier,
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Speaker 2: I think we win the house back in spite of ourselves.
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Speaker 2: But it's a big in spite of ourselves, because there's
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Speaker 2: so much money just going to nowhere and just funding
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Speaker 2: like lavish lifestyles of small people who haven't shifted out
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Speaker 2: and still claimed victory when they have nothing to do
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Speaker 2: with victories. And we're losing the culture in a large
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Speaker 2: part because of the faith that's being put in and
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Speaker 2: the money that's being put in the wrong direction.
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Speaker 1: So I agree with you on a lot of that,
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Speaker 1: but I feel like we have had some wins. I
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Speaker 1: think that there are some amazing groups doing excellent things.
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Speaker 1: Like a lot of the trand stuff has been beaten back.
15:51
Speaker 1: And not that long ago you had to use these
15:54
Speaker 1: preferred pronouns, and again not conservative movement people, we didn't
15:59
Speaker 1: have to, but the larger segment of the population was
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Speaker 1: forced into believing something that could not possibly be true,
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Speaker 1: that you can change your gender and you could become,
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Speaker 1: you know, a boy if you're actually a girl, or
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Speaker 1: vice versa, and a lot of that has now been
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Speaker 1: beaten back. Another thing is I'm on board of defending education,
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Speaker 1: this group that I think is just excellent, and I
16:21
Speaker 1: think Nicky Neely just does phenomenal work suing school districts
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Speaker 1: and doing all this kind of stuff that I think
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Speaker 1: we as a conservative movement want. So there are groups.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I don't want to be the
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Speaker 1: optimist here, because I don't feel that optimistic right now.
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Speaker 1: But there's some movement on the right culturally. It's we
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Speaker 1: let things go so bad for so long that it's
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Speaker 1: not going to be an overnight shift.
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Speaker 2: I like defending it too. I got Sarah partial Perry
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Speaker 2: over there's phenomenal. She's an incredible attorney that works over there.
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Speaker 2: But now look the trans stuff and the keeping men
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Speaker 2: out of women's sports. That ends once we lose the
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Speaker 2: White House, or if we lose the White House, that
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Speaker 2: ends a meeting, even though it's a issue. Yeah, it
17:07
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I mean, look, neither side
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Speaker 2: cares about eighty twenty issues, or else we'd have a
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Speaker 2: Save America Act past. But no, this is one of
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Speaker 2: those things. When Trump won the White House back or
17:21
Speaker 2: the culture shifted just because they knew that the I
17:23
Speaker 2: think the money was out there when you take a
17:24
Speaker 2: look at Hollywood and music and things like that, and
17:27
Speaker 2: they wanted to capture that conservative audience where they could
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Speaker 2: we'll flip back extreme left, if not farther left once
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Speaker 2: the White House is gone.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I hear you also that the fact
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Speaker 1: that they don't care when something is an eighty twenty
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Speaker 1: issue is a wild problem because how are you running
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Speaker 1: on things that are not popular and yet and winning anyway? Right,
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Speaker 1: it just doesn't matter that much.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, the left again, don't There are stop gaps
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Speaker 2: in place for right now, but best believe like executive
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Speaker 2: orders and things. I mean, and yes, there have been
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Speaker 2: some ships in school boards and things like that, but
18:04
Speaker 2: there's so much that you know, defending ed can't do
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Speaker 2: it all. That's the problem, and you have to take
18:11
Speaker 2: the bigger stuff. There's a lot of local stuff that's
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Speaker 2: been lost along the way, and just there's so much
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Speaker 2: like misinformation from the left because they still control all
18:19
Speaker 2: of the local media too. I mean, we aren't seeing
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Speaker 2: the bigger picture here and we aren't expanding at the
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Speaker 2: rate that needs to happen to fix the problems in
18:28
Speaker 2: the country. And it's scary and it should be Sorry
18:30
Speaker 2: I started positive, you know it positive way, No, this
18:35
Speaker 2: is like the reality of the situation is I'm taking
18:37
Speaker 2: a look at everything that's happening, and you know now
18:39
Speaker 2: and I'm becoming an old guy in politics, like nothing's fixed.
18:43
Speaker 2: I once sat down with what's the name of I'm
18:46
Speaker 2: not even gonna try to remember somebody's name. But I
18:49
Speaker 2: sat down. I was the director of marketing for Seapack
18:51
Speaker 2: and every year they say, you know, Seapack's audience grows
18:53
Speaker 2: and grows growth, and I forget. Oh, it's the head
18:57
Speaker 2: of the Leadership Institute. What's his name? I was for
18:59
Speaker 2: his name? Shame on me.
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Speaker 1: Great, well that also he is a good guy.
19:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, been around forever. And I sat down and I
19:06
Speaker 2: told him, you know, all the numbers are up this year,
19:07
Speaker 2: and he goes, yeah, you know, if they told the
19:09
Speaker 2: true numbers every year and they grew like they did,
19:11
Speaker 2: the entire world would be covered in conservatives. But here
19:13
Speaker 2: we are.
19:13
Speaker 1: Wow that ye yeah yeah, and I laugh.
19:21
Speaker 2: And that was you know, you know, twelve years ago,
19:24
Speaker 2: eleven years ago, when it was the director of marketing
19:26
Speaker 2: at SEAPEC. Yeah, And I look at it now and
19:29
Speaker 2: I look back and I go, yeah, yeah, no, that's
19:31
Speaker 2: where this has been. It is like, you know, we
19:33
Speaker 2: do this dance for donors and we don't like actually
19:37
Speaker 2: dig in into the work. And that's why, by the way,
19:38
Speaker 2: Defending Again is a newer organization. We wouldn't need a
19:42
Speaker 2: Defending ed if the other organizations set up been around forever,
19:45
Speaker 2: had done their job.
19:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, But then you look at the left and they
19:49
Speaker 1: have like a Hassan Piker that they're all going to
19:52
Speaker 1: try to be on his show for the twenty twenty
19:55
Speaker 1: eight race. Every presidential candidate on the Democratic side is
19:58
Speaker 1: going to try to get on Hassan Piker show. And
20:00
Speaker 1: yet he says things like the US deserved nine to eleven.
20:03
Speaker 1: He talks about, you know, bringing in more immigrants to
20:08
Speaker 1: take white girls and all of this really crazy crazy stuff.
20:13
Speaker 1: And then you have we're going to play a clip
20:15
Speaker 1: of Abdul al said saying that this is all out
20:18
Speaker 1: of context.
20:19
Speaker 4: Ana gotcha to sit here and play gotcha politics with
20:22
Speaker 4: a dumb thing somebody said out of context that they
20:24
Speaker 4: just allowed themselves to say, Oh, well, what does that
20:27
Speaker 4: mean about what you think? I want to be held
20:28
Speaker 4: accountable for what I say and what I do, rather
20:31
Speaker 4: than this idea that we were so stuck in cancel
20:34
Speaker 4: culture that all of us agreed was a bad idea
20:36
Speaker 4: back in twenty twenty, but we seem to want to
20:38
Speaker 4: bring back.
20:38
Speaker 1: Did all of us agree on that? I don't remember
20:40
Speaker 1: them agreeing on that. I remember them calling it consequence culture.
20:44
Speaker 1: I remember them absolutely canceling people for things that their
20:47
Speaker 1: friend or colleague or whatever said because they didn't condemn
20:51
Speaker 1: that enough. And so I hear you when you're like
20:55
Speaker 1: down on the right. God, I have a long list
20:57
Speaker 1: of things that I wish the right did differently or
21:00
Speaker 1: better or effectively. But like, this is what we're up against.
21:05
Speaker 2: Liars and people who, by the way, if I said
21:07
Speaker 2: anything in this in the reverse of what Hassan Piker says,
21:11
Speaker 2: like even in the remote ballpark, our side would turn
21:15
Speaker 2: on me immediately and I'd be blackbald everywhere.
21:17
Speaker 1: Right, it doesn't think pieces about how we need to
21:21
Speaker 1: get rid of Tim Young and never hear from him again.
21:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And and they that is the scariest part
21:27
Speaker 2: of the left right now, is that how much he
21:29
Speaker 2: talks about literally killing his political opponents and people who
21:33
Speaker 2: don't agree with him. You know, I don't know where
21:38
Speaker 2: this goes. I like people have to realize that they're
21:42
Speaker 2: being lied to on the left. And I think there
21:43
Speaker 2: are a lot of sane Democrats if you take a
21:46
Speaker 2: look at that primary that abdull whatever was it? Al Yeah, yeah,
21:51
Speaker 2: I'm just so I'm so over it at this point,
21:53
Speaker 2: Like they're all the same. He barely edged out in
21:57
Speaker 2: the primary there, and that that gives me hope that
22:00
Speaker 2: there is you know, hundreds of thousands of people, maybe
22:02
Speaker 2: millions of people in this country or on the left,
22:05
Speaker 2: that still have their head screwed on straight. This is
22:11
Speaker 2: it's concerning, and like you know, and again like when
22:15
Speaker 2: I take a look at the bigger picture, and not
22:16
Speaker 2: to keep beating a strum, but like I look at
22:17
Speaker 2: the bigger picture, and like we're up against there aren't
22:21
Speaker 2: many hills left to die on in our country. You know,
22:25
Speaker 2: we did narrowly avoid having the government take our children away,
22:30
Speaker 2: but California hasn't. But this is what do we need
22:37
Speaker 2: to do to wake everybody up? And I just hope
22:41
Speaker 2: And again, like I said, like local media is coming
22:43
Speaker 2: into play here because they're also run by leftists, and
22:45
Speaker 2: we're asleep at the wheel. It's sort of like how
22:47
Speaker 2: we kind of rush limbaughs at this back in the day.
22:49
Speaker 2: Was you know, we're at sleep at the wheel with
22:51
Speaker 2: like local schools there we are. Yeah, yeah, this is
22:57
Speaker 2: just getting people to ask questions, getting people to push back.
23:03
Speaker 2: It's just not there, and I want it to be
23:06
Speaker 2: there more than what it is. And I just hope
23:09
Speaker 2: again that people are awake enough and they see this
23:12
Speaker 2: and that there are enough common sense Democrats out there.
23:14
Speaker 2: But sorry, I'm kind of like an a spiral here
23:16
Speaker 2: of thoughts because it's what's on. It's a bad scary place.
23:20
Speaker 2: I'm just like, I'm just looking at it. It's a
23:22
Speaker 2: bad scary place, and nobody's coming to save us. It's
23:25
Speaker 2: gonna be up to your listeners. It's gonna be up
23:27
Speaker 2: to people like you and and again like normal, normal
23:30
Speaker 2: people and folks who have just started new orgs and
23:32
Speaker 2: stuff like that to get it figured out.
23:34
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom is calling himself an established insurgent because you know,
23:39
Speaker 1: how could he be an insurgent at this point. He's
23:42
Speaker 1: been in government for years and years. You know, I
23:47
Speaker 1: on twenty twenty eight. Do you think AOC runs and
23:52
Speaker 1: you think it's happening. So she had this weird little
23:56
Speaker 1: video out this weekend where she gave herself a shot
24:00
Speaker 1: in her stomach on camera and said that she was
24:03
Speaker 1: freezing her eggs and it's a process that has a
24:06
Speaker 1: very questionable success rate. She's in her late thirties already.
24:10
Speaker 1: I believe she's thirty six years old. What the hell
24:14
Speaker 1: is she doing?
24:16
Speaker 2: She's had a fiance for five years now, right, Yeah.
24:19
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, I don't think that's a relationship
24:22
Speaker 1: that's working out.
24:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't. Again, if you if you want
24:26
Speaker 2: to be a mother, be a mother, like you know
24:27
Speaker 2: every how many how many pregnant congressmen have we had
24:31
Speaker 2: so far? I know Apple's been one, and Na Pauline
24:34
Speaker 2: a Luna I call her and it wasn't. Mayra Flora's
24:38
Speaker 2: also pregnant at one point. I'm trying to think of
24:40
Speaker 2: all those limits.
24:41
Speaker 1: There's been some, but has there been any that had
24:44
Speaker 1: an eye on the White House?
24:46
Speaker 2: Is the question?
24:47
Speaker 1: That's what people think she's waiting for, right, Like what
24:50
Speaker 1: what could it be? And Mary Catherine Ham texted me
24:53
Speaker 1: this morning that she's sad to miss the AOC news
24:56
Speaker 1: cycle while she's away, and she said, I tell AOC
24:59
Speaker 1: exactly what I'd tell a friend. If you've been engaged
25:01
Speaker 1: four years, something is already wrong. If you're not sure
25:03
Speaker 1: if you want kids by now, you either don't want
25:05
Speaker 1: kids or don't want this man, or both.
25:08
Speaker 2: I say, it's two years. I tossed a woman out
25:10
Speaker 2: of my house after two and a half we were engaged.
25:14
Speaker 2: There you go well, we.
25:16
Speaker 1: Can explore that on another.
25:19
Speaker 2: But no, it's right after after I think the the
25:21
Speaker 2: limit on engagements two years. There's obviously something that's going
25:25
Speaker 2: on there. I always thought that they weren't married because
25:28
Speaker 2: they don't have to public publicly disclose their money if
25:31
Speaker 2: they aren't married. I believe that's a thing. So you know,
25:36
Speaker 2: it's married couples, so you know the pelosis, you know
25:38
Speaker 2: what they're doing together. But you know AOC's partner, as
25:42
Speaker 2: long as they aren't legally married, they can sneak a
25:43
Speaker 2: lot of money to him. I believe that is the
25:46
Speaker 2: scheme there. But no, it's it's really sad, and I
25:49
Speaker 2: don't understand. I don't know why she did that video
25:53
Speaker 2: other than for some sort of strange sympathy maybe with
25:55
Speaker 2: like mothers or something, or I don't belie. Yeah, it
25:59
Speaker 2: doesn't make it right.
26:01
Speaker 1: So conservatives seem a little split on the whole thing.
26:03
Speaker 1: A lot of people were like, this is ridiculous. You're
26:06
Speaker 1: already of an age where you're heading towards where you're
26:11
Speaker 1: not going to be able to do this naturally, and
26:13
Speaker 1: freezing your eggs at this point it doesn't give you
26:15
Speaker 1: that great a shot. But Katie Miller, wife of Stephen Miller,
26:19
Speaker 1: said she tweeted good for her for wanting to be
26:21
Speaker 1: a mother and preserving the ability to do so. If
26:24
Speaker 1: she inspires other women to want to become mothers, awesome,
26:26
Speaker 1: we need more babies now. I'm all on board with
26:29
Speaker 1: more babies. But is that what she's doing or is
26:31
Speaker 1: she inspiring women to wait indefinitely because it's totally fine
26:36
Speaker 1: and has no drawbacks to freeze eggs, which is not true.
26:39
Speaker 1: And she didn't just quietly do this. She posted herself
26:42
Speaker 1: giving herself the shot to social media made it seem
26:46
Speaker 1: like no big deal. She could have a baby whenever
26:48
Speaker 1: she wants. That's not really how it goes.
26:50
Speaker 2: I think I think Katie Miller's right about the whole
26:53
Speaker 2: thing about like or sorry, You're right about having the
26:56
Speaker 2: child anytime she wants. Katie Miller, I don't understand. Stop
26:59
Speaker 2: playing nice. I'm playing nice with these people who clearly
27:02
Speaker 2: hate you. I mean, they've said everything terrible under the
27:05
Speaker 2: sun about Steven Miller, who I think is a brilliant guy. Yeah,
27:08
Speaker 2: and like for Katie Miller to step up, like again,
27:11
Speaker 2: this is like the stupid burrito argument that happened last week,
27:13
Speaker 2: like twenty dollars burritos, blah blah blah. I don't care,
27:16
Speaker 2: you know, if it's stage to divide the right congratulations,
27:19
Speaker 2: they fell for it again. There is an uninformed influencer
27:22
Speaker 2: class on our side that just will take up any
27:26
Speaker 2: talking point that comes along and fight back and forth
27:29
Speaker 2: and like again, like, I have no problems with Katie Miller,
27:32
Speaker 2: but like, come on, be smarter than this. You know
27:35
Speaker 2: you're out there defending AOC against Republicans. Just how about
27:39
Speaker 2: don't say anything? How about don't look like there's division,
27:41
Speaker 2: like if you disagree with what Republicans are out saying,
27:43
Speaker 2: just like on this one, just like, don't take her side,
27:46
Speaker 2: don't give them what they want. That's what she wants
27:49
Speaker 2: from this, all.
27:50
Speaker 1: Right, AOC. Look, I on twenty twenty eight will see
27:54
Speaker 1: where she ends up with a baby or not. A
27:56
Speaker 1: baby would actually soften her a lot for twenty twenty eight.
27:59
Speaker 1: Maybe she should her as a political prop at least.
28:02
Speaker 2: I have a lot of insulting things that I could
28:04
Speaker 2: say here about having a baby with her. But look,
28:07
Speaker 2: I know that I've shopped at the same Whole Foods
28:10
Speaker 2: that she. I don't know if she still shops by
28:11
Speaker 2: herself grocery shops, but we used to grocery shop like
28:15
Speaker 2: at the same time at the Whole Foods on Capitol Hill.
28:17
Speaker 2: And when you look into her eyes, there are just
28:19
Speaker 2: is nothing there, man, when you meet her in person.
28:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe it. All right, We're going to take
28:24
Speaker 1: a short break and come right back with one more
28:26
Speaker 1: segment of Normally. We are back on Normally, where my
28:34
Speaker 1: guest's co host today filling in for Mary Catherine Ham
28:37
Speaker 1: is Tim Young. Tim is awesome and you should follow
28:40
Speaker 1: his ex account. Tim runs his mouth. He's doing a
28:43
Speaker 1: really wonderful job hanging in here for MK. And I
28:47
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I feel like he's optimistic sometimes pessimistic.
28:51
Speaker 1: Sometimes he's really living the normally ethos here.
28:56
Speaker 2: I'm an ally of the norm which is what the
28:58
Speaker 2: show's all about.
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Speaker 1: So what's normal is not happening at the WNBA. There's
29:06
Speaker 1: so much news about it. My kids are like, is
29:09
Speaker 1: this a giant sport? Why are you guys talking about
29:11
Speaker 1: it so much? But there's so much going on, most
29:13
Speaker 1: recently Sophie Cunningham, who publicly said that biological boys shouldn't
29:19
Speaker 1: play in girls sports and is now public enemy number one.
29:22
Speaker 1: She got clotheslined by Dejane Carrington, who was ejected from
29:27
Speaker 1: the game and tweeted white privilege from the locker room.
29:32
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was white privilege. I thought it
29:34
Speaker 1: was assault. But okay, what the hell's going on in
29:38
Speaker 1: this league?
29:39
Speaker 2: Well, here's the truth is, more people will see videos
29:42
Speaker 2: of Sophie Cunningham getting clotheslined or pointing than we'll watch
29:46
Speaker 2: any single game, including playoffs, of the WNBA this year.
29:49
Speaker 1: Your kids are right right, unless, unless, unless Clay Travis
29:55
Speaker 1: gets his way and gets to have a Nashville Balls
29:58
Speaker 1: team with all all trans players. That would make it
30:02
Speaker 1: musty TV.
30:04
Speaker 2: It would be super fun. But and you know, I
30:06
Speaker 2: debate whether or not Britney Grinder is a man or not.
30:08
Speaker 2: That deep voice is very odd to me. And the
30:11
Speaker 2: video of her with no shirt on, I don't know
30:14
Speaker 2: if you've seen that before. The yeah, it's it's very
30:20
Speaker 2: questionable there. But oh, I wanted to be called pops
30:23
Speaker 2: with her child wants your child to call her pops.
30:26
Speaker 2: That's another hut thing. So they may already have trans
30:29
Speaker 2: people in their league. That being said, I'm tired of
30:32
Speaker 2: the WNBA. I think if they were smart, they would
30:34
Speaker 2: have leaned into Caitlin Clark and now Sophie kind of cans.
30:37
Speaker 2: But the problem is they're run by leftists. And so
30:40
Speaker 2: you have two reasonably attractive white women, one who is
30:44
Speaker 2: the best female basketball player of all time, the other
30:47
Speaker 2: who created a meme that's bigger than the league in
30:51
Speaker 2: one second and sells out shoes like crazy. And you
30:54
Speaker 2: have a league of jealous, angry, ugly lesbians who just
30:59
Speaker 2: want to beat them up because literally it's just jealousy
31:02
Speaker 2: and hatred. When you know, if this, if they realized
31:05
Speaker 2: who Caitlin Clark and who Sophie Cunningham could be, they'd
31:08
Speaker 2: lean into it, sell more tickets and be friendly. But
31:12
Speaker 2: the tickets that they're selling, and I debated this with
31:14
Speaker 2: a Barshaol sports woman recently, you know they're like, oh,
31:19
Speaker 2: it sells out, Brooklyn sells out. I'm like, yeah, wokies
31:22
Speaker 2: are buying tickets to act out for this. When I
31:24
Speaker 2: went to see the Black Panther movie when it first
31:26
Speaker 2: came out from Marvel, it was full of like weird,
31:30
Speaker 2: smelly theater kids that went to go see it in Washington,
31:33
Speaker 2: d C. Because they felt it was their job to
31:35
Speaker 2: go do it. That's their big woke part. And right now,
31:38
Speaker 2: the big woke part is for these people to show
31:43
Speaker 2: up and buy, you know, one hundred dollars tickets to
31:46
Speaker 2: go watch crappy basketball for a couple of hours and
31:49
Speaker 2: then take selfies and say they did it. By the way,
31:51
Speaker 2: big big props to you know, the little girls that
31:54
Speaker 2: got yelled at by the Seattle coach for standing up
31:57
Speaker 2: for girls and stuff. Everybody who's been getting called out
32:00
Speaker 2: for this, they've been wearing xxxy athletic gear stuff. I
32:04
Speaker 2: think it's been reasonable stunts by a good company, by
32:07
Speaker 2: the way, xxxy, great great athletic company that stands up
32:11
Speaker 2: for women in sports. But total great stunts that have
32:15
Speaker 2: been working.
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Speaker 1: I mean, so nis Kant Freedom and Royce White are
32:19
Speaker 1: two former NBA players who have declared for the twenty
32:23
Speaker 1: twenty seven w NBA Draft. And the thing is that
32:26
Speaker 1: the WNBA has to take this somewhat seriously. I mean,
32:30
Speaker 1: is it a stunt. Of course it's a stunt, but
32:32
Speaker 1: they have to take it somewhere seriously. Wesleyang talks about
32:35
Speaker 1: this on x He says the meeting is happening. The
32:37
Speaker 1: WNBA commissioner said that league is meeting in New York
32:41
Speaker 1: City because under New York City law, where the league
32:43
Speaker 1: is headquartered, these men really can't sue if they are excluded.
32:47
Speaker 1: If these exact same men had grown their hair out
32:49
Speaker 1: and begun demanding to be called women two years ago,
32:52
Speaker 1: every transactivist and ally attacking them today would be cheiring
32:55
Speaker 1: them on the law makes no distinction. They may actually
33:00
Speaker 1: you get to play.
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Speaker 2: I would love to see that.
33:03
Speaker 1: Alternative is the w NBA saying they are not women,
33:07
Speaker 1: and then they'll have to define what a woman is,
33:09
Speaker 1: and then we're in a brand new place.
33:12
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind us Cantor Freedom and Royce White suing
33:15
Speaker 2: the heck out of these people and taking that money
33:17
Speaker 2: and putting it towards some sort of charity that helps
33:19
Speaker 2: girls and female athletes. I think that would be awesome,
33:23
Speaker 2: and I think that's actually where this ends up. I
33:24
Speaker 2: think that they can't land on. I highly doubt that
33:28
Speaker 2: this league will be able to land on defining what
33:29
Speaker 2: a woman is for fear that, you know, they'd have
33:32
Speaker 2: to get rid of Britney Grinder. I'm telling you again,
33:34
Speaker 2: Britney Griner, and I wouldn't know that name had it
33:38
Speaker 2: not been for getting arrested in Russia and US trading
33:40
Speaker 2: the what was it, the Harbinger of death or something
33:44
Speaker 2: like that, whatever it was, back for her. But no,
33:47
Speaker 2: I really look forward to them standing the ground, both
33:51
Speaker 2: both sides standing the ground, and then Enus Kanter and
33:54
Speaker 2: Royce White suing the hell out of the WNBA, getting
33:57
Speaker 2: a bunch of money and giving it to female charities.
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Speaker 1: Love it. I hope that's what ends up happening. He
34:02
Speaker 1: is Tim Young, Follow him on, Tim runs his mouth,
34:05
Speaker 1: check out his work. He's so great. Thank you so
34:07
Speaker 1: much for joining us, Tim, We loved having you, and
34:10
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