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Autistic And Gifted · Aspergers & Autism Podcast [The Aspie World] AuDHD

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Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of these sadly
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lives. I know, I know, I know I was
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gonna say, like, Dan, you haven't had one for like, two or
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three weeks and I'm going to be like, yeah, because that's how
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we do it. But anyone else in on podcast,
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this is another Saturday live, but you are probably hearing
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this on a random weekday. But anyway guys today I am
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talking to a gentleman called Ron Sanderson.
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Who who I spoke to I say, I recognize this guy from like TV
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or something. I don't know.
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I recognize this person, but he's been on a bunch of stuff.
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He's across some really cool stuff.
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He's not cystic Advocate. He's an author.
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We're going to get into all of that.
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Right now, run joint, introduce yourself and tell us a little
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bit about who you are and what you do.
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Hi there. Thanks Grammy.
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And you're so right now. I'm on the front line of
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fighting covid in the mental health field.
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I work. As an odd too.
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I work in the mental health field, working front line is a
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tech working with mental health patients.
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I also have three nationally. Published books appearance,
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guide, Allah to them. Practical, advice biblical
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wisdom, which became one of the top five best selling Christian
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books and autism. All the time.
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I wrote a book on theology, thought Choice action on st.
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Augustine and Third book views from the Spectrum, comes out May
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25th, and I interviewed are Monty Williams and NASCAR
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driver, Rachel Barcelona. Miss Tampa, and many other
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famous people, while writing my book and I speak it, 70 events a
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year on autism. I also have a very unique gift.
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I have all reached 15,000, Bible verses memorized wordperfect and
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I found it Spectrum. Inclusion that helps people who
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are knots and Spectrum get employed for mentoring.
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And resources currently in the United States less than five
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percent of people with Autism are gainfully employed.
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As I am, I going life is a v, the first autistic congressman
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and chains established on employment and change not
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neurodiversity. So people would bar
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neurodivergent are getting hired and I got my mascot.
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It's a honey badger. And I got my other mascot of
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prairie, dog, prairie, dog is highly learned how to read and
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write is a young child. He's not over 40 years old.
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Whoa, geez. So how old are you?
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Then if you don't mind me asking?
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I'll be 46 May 10. So I'm almost 46.
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Holy smoke. Did you look like I would say,
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you know, about 29, 2013, easy, 29, 30 years old.
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I'd say you look. Yeah, I keep in good shape up to
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about five years ago. I could still run a mile in
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about 4:30. He does impressive.
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I do the same. I don't drink, I don't smoke it
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or anything like that. You know, I'm a vegan.
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I work out three times a week because any more than that and I
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start breaking down and it's good.
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It's good to keep yourself in Focus, you know, and, and I
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think one of the interesting things about keeping yourself in
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shape, I do this thing called The Miracle morning, other,
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we've heard of this, there's a procedure performed by a guy
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called Hal Elrod. When you do like some like
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affirmation stuff in the morning and a prayer in some in some
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respect and then you do kind of like some study like it could be
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Bible study for yourself or reading a book right now.
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I'm reading a semi religious book called you might have heard
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this one. Actually.
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It's the guys kind of the author's.
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Got The Power of Positive Thinking.
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Have you heard of this book? Yeah, I've heard that I've
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actually read then the very good book.
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Yeah, so so that's the kind of thing I do to keep myself
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because I think you got me mentally and shape.
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You go to keep you in shape, you know, and you got to keep your
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body in shape is on. I think that's really important.
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So, excellent stuff. You like, it's not often.
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I come across people who kind of like Trump for me and match me
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at the amount of crazy stuff that they do.
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And so I take my hat off to you, you know, you do that, you can
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you definitely do that. And that yeah.
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I want to talk about the book. So you just had A new book out,
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right? This is the latest one hours
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coming out, right? Yo, so join us.
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Talk a little bit about this specific book.
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Yeah. So views from the spectrum is a
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book that or bam choice. We have children on the autism
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spectrum and also young adult and it's 20 inspiring stories of
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amazing. People like tarko pro baseball
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player for the Kansas City. Royals are Monty Williams and
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NASCAR driver. Actually this Sunday.
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I'm going to be meeting my Monty Williams, at his home, and
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meeting his family, and being able to talk to him and share
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even more after I interviewed him and share his story in the
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Look people agree to Barcelona, Miss Tampa, and I share how
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their families were able to use those unique gifts, those unique
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talents and refine them in the beautiful gifts.
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My mom worked with me. I was severely autistic.
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My speech development was so delayed when I was 7 years old.
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My brother chuck wood me introduce me to people saying
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you got to meet my brother Ron. I think he's from Norway.
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Yeah me talk new and we're saying except my immediate
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family. They can interpret Ron language,
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but no one else. Could.
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And he became an expert on Norwegian languages and my mom
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always said that all to them in. Something you cheer is something
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you refine and what she meant by that is I can't cough on you and
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you get the odds and flu. I could cough on you.
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If I had covid you could get cold, but you wouldn't get the
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odds and flew, right? And autism on refined for me.
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Look like this. You're walking on the beach or
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on the sidewalk the back quack payment, to go to the beach on
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the Hot wax pavement bare feet and all of sudden, something
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feels Jagged and sharp. You go down.
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You pick it up to piece of glass.
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Oh, so now your foot is cut. You just take that grass.
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You throw it away because it's unrefined glass.
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And for me to them was Jagged, I couldn't help saying certain
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things that popped in my mind. If I thought came in, I'd say
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it. Unfiltered all into the month
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from refined, for me was Not being able to control my
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emotions. I got a hyper.
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I just go off and meltdown but also to them refine now looks
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like this. You're off that hot black
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payment. You're walking along the ocean
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and all of a sudden your foot feel something.
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Good, you go down, you pick it up.
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It's a piece of glass. It's been refined by something
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greater than self. The ocean for me, all its and
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refined with learning social skills, interacting with other
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children, taking speech, therapy, all the way from AIDS
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to 216 learning how to read. Using art visual ways.
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I was able to learn and it was a prairie, dog, named Curry pup,
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who my mom bought me when I was eight, seven and used him.
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The is my special interest to teach me and it's also the honey
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badger that I have. That's a fierce Advocate.
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I got my first honey badger on my honeymoon.
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And that one, I don't take when I speak places because when you
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press its Paul every F-bomb in the book comes flying out its
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mouth and a list voice. I don't take my own.
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People think I'm having a live milk down and that's what these
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parents did with their children as they didn't Cure All to them.
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They refined to our Monty Williams and now driving NASCAR.
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Yeah. I spoke Arcos, throwing balls in
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the major leagues and appearance found that town.
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They refine that talent and they use that talent for something
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great. Even a video game designer.
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There's son, Peter Allen's, Love video games, and It's figured
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out how they were able to Market that helped design video games
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professionally and parents need to find the gift, buying the
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tail, and refine that gift in town that my parents didn't so
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many others. In my book encourages, that also
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has a spiritual component where each chapter has verses from the
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Bible to meditate on and positively be able to Focus and
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it has a prayer where they're able to Center on the Divine and
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have hope for the future. A lot of families, when they get
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caught some diagnosis. They feel hopeless, they feel
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like, where can I go and my books provide that information
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that advice and shows them how they can connect.
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Not only with therapy but also with a higher power and with
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abilities and people who have already been on the journey
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fired and they have You can encourage them on their journey
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and teach them how they were able to help their child reach
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their full potential. I always say full potential is
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different for each child. The one child, maybe not biting.
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It may be able to communicate a few words for their needs.
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For other children on the autistic spectrum and maybe
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getting their PHD. It may have a career where
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they're able to help Advance technology to help Advance our
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civilization. Absolutely.
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Did, I think and you books Sounds awful, incredible.
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I gotta get me a copy of it, like, ASAP.
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I think it sounds amazing. And, you know, I can totally
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relate to, you know, teaching yourself like, you know, or
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learning more skills, like social skills.
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Just because I went to a mainstream High School on a Main
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Street mainstream Primary School, which is a preschool in
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America, and I do believe that if I hadn't been in those
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situations, I've been blessed with people like friends, who
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would teach me a social things and I'm still learning every
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day, but if I hadn't have had Those experiences and I went to
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like a special school. I don't think I would have
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developed as much because I would have been, you know,
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except back from may be experiencing certain social
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situations. And I did a video all about
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like, ottoman schooling because this I feel like this phenomenon
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is quite apparent where when you're, you know, when you're
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when you have a special need or additional need and then you put
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into an additional needs education system.
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They it's kind of like it makes almost sometimes it - it is
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exciting. Incubates the issues sometimes.
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Because you're surrounded by that issue, but when I was, you
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know, okay A bit more like scarred by being in mainstream
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school because I was like, kind of like in too deep.
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You nose and deep water and I don't know what I was doing.
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But I do feel like I've learned so much more social skills from
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from those situations and because of those situations, I'm
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forever grateful because I feel like I was able to, you know, my
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my speech and my ability to understand what other people are
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trying to say. To me.
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It's kind of really increased. And is interesting, you know,
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you saying about, you know, it's not curing autism because
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obviously there's no cure, you know, it's not something you can
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cure. It's not, it's not a disease,
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right? You know, it's a, it's a
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neurological condition that is a.
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Lifelong developmental, neurological condition.
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And a lot of people forget that, you know, people people, you
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know, at the parents parents, get like the bum, right?
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Because they kind of like they have the shock kind of, you
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know, I need to help my kid and then like, where do I go?
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And I think things that you're doing, you know, with the book
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and you see any look, 70 speeches a year or so.
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Things like that. So ridiculously good.
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And it's things like that which has the power to change the
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world for. I'm honored really happy on this
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podcast. And you said something, you
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know, that your book was doing which I really reflected in my
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talk. So in the last speaking tour, I
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did before covid, hit I was talking about how if the main
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premise of the the whole show was about how when parents, you
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know, they kind of they have other kids on the Spectrum and
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then ago, I know, I kid can't read very well.
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Can't write me wrong. And they selectively mute.
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You know, they got delayed speech, they and then they focus
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on those things like goodness. You know, what they can't do,
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what they can't do with. And they never say.
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Hey, my kid is like kick butt at Legos or he's like the best
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computer program I've ever seen, or like you can memorize Bible
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verses in the thousands, you know, like it's really
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interesting that the parents always kind of like fill the
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fill their kind of focus with the things that negatively with
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the things that the kid can't do rather than the things that the
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kid can do and it's that encouragement.
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Like you said, it's that kind of a tree.
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Finding the things that they're really good at to really propel
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them forward. And I always say to parents
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because, you know, I'm a YouTuber and I know other
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YouTubers and there's a guy called Sean that I know he's a,
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he's a Irish YouTuber but he lives in the UK and he's, you
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know, he's like a multi-millionaire from just
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playing video games and reviewing video games on this
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channel Jacksepticeye. And you know, it's things like
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that. When you say to a parent, look,
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if your kid is good at something then really focus in on that
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thing. That.
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So I want to thank you for kind of highlighting that and also
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current into a book were parents can really digest it, you know,
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and so tell me, what are your diagnosis yourself?
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Like, what is your current kind of diagnosis?
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All right. So 1982.
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I was diagnosed with autism, eight, seven, when I was
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diagnosed, only one in 10,000 children were diagnosed with
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autism. And now it's one in every 15.
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Ein children, one every three hours, every for children with
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autism. Will be male and 137.
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Males will have autism and then later on in life is diagnosis
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and autistic Prodigy. Because of my art ability and my
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ability to memorize vast amounts of information during my
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lifetime. I've only met one other person
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who had as many verses in the Bible memorized as I did and I
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got to Entertainer intern and Mentor under dr.
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Jack Van Impe and he died, not this past year.
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He died. 2020 on 18th and when he died the New York Times, did
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a two-page article on his exam Ministry because he was.
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So well-known. What I work for me said I was
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the only person you ever met in his lifetime was able to do what
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he was able to do. And also, I had the first major
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Americans with Disabilities case in the state of Michigan, my
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senior year of high school. I was a second fastest on the
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second fastest, 3200 relay team for the state of Michigan.
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And I was past the age limit. Compete due to autism.
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Hold me back in kindergarten and I had to go to the federal
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courts and I won and I got to compete my senior year and CNN,
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curing my story and all the news station and my Relay Team ran,
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the second fastest time, the state of Michigan, and I got
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full ride for track and cross country.
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But again, took parents were Advocates and saw that that gift
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was there for track and cross-country.
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And why say too is we do out to them gifts Moore's, they And
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transform in the other gifts. And if you can take that gift.
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Well, it's a passion. Well, it's a special interest
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and help them learn by. When the next gift comes, it's
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going to morph in the new abilities, new talents.
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And that's what my parents did with track and cross-country.
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Once that more into an interest in theology.
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It spilled out into academics. And then from there, we'll run
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into a career and being able to work full-time and be gainfully.
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We employ going on now. We're 13 years in the mental
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health field and as a professor for 17 years of Theology.
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And so, do you have a PhD in theology?
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No, I have a master of divinity from or Roberts University L.
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ET one step below a PhD in. Yeah, that's that's dated.
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I mean, wow, you just blew me away like you did.
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It's incredible. I love it, you know and it's
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funny the whole thing about memorizing stuff.
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I and I love that you said about the whole morphing of different
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ideas because, you know, I love all kinds of things.
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I don't know how much you know about me but like I have a
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degree in chemistry and I found out it's just Stating I loved
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it. And I know it was Farmers off as
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an academic or I didn't even like mathematics until I did it
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and then I applied it and I was like, wow, I really love maths.
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Now, you know, I love science and Academia and then you know,
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like writing a book was super interesting and an interesting
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experience, but then like also I'm a multi musician.
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I taught myself to play different types of instruments.
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You know what, I've got like a CD out in Japan and trying to
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American record label as well. And I'm just I do saying that
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was thinking. Yeah, because like I just more
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like the things that I'm really into, you know, what?
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I became a marketing expert. Anna Facebook marketing analyst
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expert because I was just fascinating how I just absorbed
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all the information and then I could retain that information
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and one of my friends is always really sure what actually a lot
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of people. But when they get to really know
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me, but they're all really shocked.
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The amount of information. I know on a subject, right?
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And that they might have information that would be good
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to say on the subject and I always find it.
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Like I feel I feel personally like I don't know that much.
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I would feel like, you know, if you could be for you to
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visualize it I would say there's like a box like this and I know
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like this much and it. Is so much more space.
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I feel like I have not filled up with information or data, but
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that just like Blown Away with the amount of stuff that I know,
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I'm thinking, goodness me and I've never met anybody else.
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Other than you right now. Actually, that could could, you
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know, the test, the fact that they have like, oh, yeah.
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I can, you know, memorize x, minus X naught X multi love
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that, and it makes me feel a bit more, kind of a little bit more
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in, in the know, with people. I don't know.
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It's cool. So, Charlie.
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Dr. Tony out what I'm going to say.
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As a person with autism or Asperger's in a very short time
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become can become one of the top experts in the world on a topic
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that they're interested in. And that's how it's been for
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both me and you. Yeah, dude, you know, it's funny
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to say because I I wanted to I was I've made an online course
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teaching people how to like for parents and caregivers and stuff
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like that. How to be with their children,
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who are on the Spectrum and stuff.
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I wanted to give my perspective some of what you've done when
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you book and Stuff, but I want to give more of like a.
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I don't like a video education thing because obviously videos
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my thing and so I did this course for this company and they
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were talking about our marketing and all the stuff works.
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And I was like, you didn't really care about it.
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And then I parted ways with the company, and I still have all
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this data and I was like, I want to Market.
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So I spent literally two weeks digesting every single book.
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I could find every single podcast, every single blog,
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every single piece of information.
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I could find on digital media social media, marketing funnels,
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everything like that. And I went from literally
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knowing nothing about it to being paid, an excessive amount
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of money as a consultant for large companies in America,
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which I'm, I'm not legally obliged to talk about it as a
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consultant. I still do that right now.
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I consult with large companies on the business marketing and
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social media marketing, and it's crazy.
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And it's funny because I thought you said, you know, like in a
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short space of time. I was able to just focus all my
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energy on that just like that. And I love doing that.
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You know, I don't know you almost become a micro expert or
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a master in those. Those things, right?
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Because and I also feel like I must have that thing.
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And then I'm going to go on to the next one, but those things
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that's always going. So I'm always learning new
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things for that thing. It's kind of like spinning
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plates, you know, you must have spin this plate and keep
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spinning when you do another one to keep spinning, and you've got
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all these plates of Interest, I keep going.
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And yeah, it's absolutely fascinating.
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So, where are you located? And what are you?
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What part of the world? I was in, on the United States.
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I live in Rochester Hills, Michigan.
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And when the Pam endemic began Michigan with Detroit, was the
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third hardest hit City. In on the United States when it
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first began yet New York was hit hard.
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California and Michigan. Now, it's pretty well love
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without things are getting somewhat back to normal.
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Hopefully they'll be able to speak again live again.
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It still on things are closed as I speak right now and I grew up
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in Michigan. I went to college way out in
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Oklahoma Tulsa, which is a 16 hour drive from Michigan or nine
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hundred thirty miles away. And I currently work, as I
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mentioned earlier in the mental health field and as a professor
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Destiny School Ministry, and then I was speaking at 70 events
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a year. I do about now 30 to 40
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conferences where before I was doing a lot more, but it seems
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things open up. I'll be doing that again and I'm
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working on my fourth book right now, all to them grow and
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transitioning to adulthood. It's a book on young adults with
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all children, how they can. Mission into adulthood and IQ.
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When I wrote my first book. I only knew a little bit about
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autism. My own experiences by interview
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50th top experts in the world, who work in the autism field.
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People like dr. Who and coiny from the UCLA
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Autism Center, even famous some television evangelist who had
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kids on the autism spectrum and I interviewed 52.
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Best known people on the autism spectrum and in a nine-month
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period time. I became one of the top experts.
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In Michigan on mental health and on autism.
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And now, when they news cats are doing things on mental health,
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or Autism. I'm on the first people, they
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call love it did. That's awesome.
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Like, you're blowing my mind. I love this.
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And so I want I want to, you know, in terms of like online
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and when you have such, a lot of resources to give, how can
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people find you? Where's the best place?
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Like plug your socials, plug your website?
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Where can people listen right now?
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Where can I go? The best places Spectrum
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inclusion.com. That's my website.
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It's about 10,000 views a month. And then if they want to reach
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me the best way is Sanderson. Sa ND is 1456 it hotmail.com.
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All my books are found on Amazon.
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If you Google rods and listen, I can get first on Google.
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I like to joke. This is it.
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The reason I go by Ron Sanderson and not Ronald, stand assassin.
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The most famous person. Person named Ronald Sanderson in
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the 1940s and 1950s. He tested LSD on children and
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the guy who had to about 95 and the funding year.
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Irony is, is his final book was published by just kingsley's
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pump, pushing out the UK and it's a number one publisher for
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autism. Don't want them thinking.
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I'm getting autistic kids on LSD, like the other Rivals, and
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the city was now passed away. So I go by Ron, so I get purse
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on Google. But if you do Ronald, you're
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going to get this guy here on his research is still
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world-renowned because no one can repeat it.
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No one can do on the things. He did.
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You could in the 1940s and 1950s.
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She who's giving kids LS2 Elmo's?
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A crazy time, wasn't even back in the day.
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Goodness. Yeah, 40 and 50.
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Wow, I mean, yeah, you know post-world War II know that it
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was a very interesting time, but needless to say that is great.
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I think that there's there's so much wealth that you have to
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offer in terms of value for people.
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I think everybody definitely needs to go to your site.
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I will link everything in the description and the show notes
23:04
for this video and podcast irreverent can find you now
23:07
Runners at anything. You want to kind of like say or
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kind of talked about before we kind of wrap this and if you
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have because I think like, you know, people are just raring to
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go to go on. That you are from the internet
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right about now. Are they?
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Thanks. There's one quote.
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I love. I have over 5,000 quotes
23:23
memorize Word, Perfect. In his, its Pastor, Charles
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Spurgeon by perseverance, the stalemate on the air and I like
23:32
to say no matter how slow your child is or how slow you are
23:36
kindly, if you're heading in the right direction like that snail,
23:40
you're going to reach your goal or the arctic's Tom set up for
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you. And I encourage people that my
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development began very slow. I was Years old, when I graduate
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from high school. People wanted me to wait one
23:53
more year, so I can be the designated buyer.
23:55
I was pretty five years old before I moved out of my parents
23:59
house. I was 40 years old, when I
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became a dad, 40 years old, when my first book came out
24:07
appearance guy, Dodson and practical advice, biblical
24:10
wisdom, 42. And my second book come up and
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I'll be 40. 6, when my third books comes up, but it's not the
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rate that you move it. It's the success that you
24:22
achieve and a lot of times on the Spectrum.
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Most of our success is later in life.
24:27
We're late bloomers and the not to think just because
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development is doing, doesn't mean it's denied.
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Nice. Thank you so much Ron.
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That's it. That's incredible.
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And you such an inspirational guy.
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I'm yeah, we're definitely gonna keep in contact forever.
24:43
Now. I just want to thank you so much
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for coming on and just like, wow.
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I mean, I'm just blown away. So I will encourage everybody.
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I know to come check you out because you just blow my mind.
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So guys, check out Ron's website, again.
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I'll leave a link for this in the description and the show
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notes. You definitely check it out.
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And this will be in a blog format on my website as well.
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They asked google.com, where you'll find all the links to run
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stuff. Awesome.
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