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Cam Green's controversial interview & Sheffield Shield final PREVIEW | Domesticated Podcast · The Follow-On

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Speaker 1: The regular season is done and the Sheffield Shield Final
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Speaker 1: is sets. Welcome to Domesticated. I'm justin Edwards. Fox cricket
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Speaker 1: riter Nick Savage is alongside me.
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Speaker 2: Nick.
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Speaker 1: We got the final we probably thought we were going
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Speaker 1: to get. It'll be the best team of the season.
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Speaker 1: Victoria against the reigning champions South Australia.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Victoria where dominant.
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Speaker 3: They secured that home final several weeks ago, many rounds
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Speaker 3: ago actually, and yes, South Australia, very similar squad to
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Speaker 3: last year and yeah, they've just held it together. Wouldn't
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Speaker 3: far from a perfect season for them when they got
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Speaker 3: about the four wins in the end, but they scraped
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Speaker 3: through a courtesy of bonus points in this last round.
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Speaker 3: I think they found out halfway through Day two they've
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Speaker 3: got it done. So yeah, an exciting final. We got
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Speaker 3: that preview in round ten down at Junction Ovle.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an interesting sort of dynamic that you have
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Speaker 1: the same two teams playing each other in the last
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Speaker 1: round and we'll play each other again in the final.
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Speaker 1: We'll touch more on the Shield Final later on. The
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Speaker 1: biggest story of the Shield round for me was Cameron Green.
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Speaker 1: We'll start with what he did on the field first
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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty five and a return to form
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Speaker 1: after what was a really really lean summer.
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Speaker 2: Really important.
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Speaker 3: He hadn't gotten a one hundred in any format since
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Speaker 3: about May last year. It had been a really worrying summer. Obviously,
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Speaker 3: he had got a fifty in the ashes, went to
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Speaker 3: the T twenty World Cup and struggled quite a bit there,
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Speaker 3: and so this will do his confidence a lot of
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Speaker 3: goods about to head to India for the IPL. He
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Speaker 3: might be on a plane today. In fact, he's a
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Speaker 3: four million dollar player there and this one hundred will
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Speaker 3: just give him a little bit of a boost heading
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Speaker 3: into the winter because Australia needs him performing.
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Speaker 2: They need him before me.
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Speaker 3: He could take that number five or six spot next
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Speaker 3: summer in a massive summer for Australia and this will
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Speaker 3: just hopefully give them that little boost that's needed.
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Speaker 1: It feels again like we've seen this a lot. A
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Speaker 1: lot of the talkover summer was oh, he needs to
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Speaker 1: go back to shield cricket, back to shield cricket.
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Speaker 2: Well, guess what he.
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Speaker 1: Does every time he gets back to shield cricket. He
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Speaker 1: does this. He averages like well over fifty in Sheffield
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Speaker 1: Shield cricket and he gets another hundred. Didn't play much
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Speaker 1: shield cricket at all, doesn't play very much first class
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Speaker 1: cricket because he always playing with Australia. When he's not
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Speaker 1: playing with even in redwell cricket, he's playing whpeall cricket
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Speaker 1: for Australia or IPL. But this is just what he
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Speaker 1: does when he goes back to this level. The challenge
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Speaker 1: for him now is to It's not that he hasn't
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Speaker 1: done this at Test level. He's got one hundred India,
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Speaker 1: got one hundred against that forty two bo one hundred
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Speaker 1: against South Africa and white bulk crek Het. He just
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Speaker 1: needs to do it more consistently at the international level.
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Speaker 3: We has really underperformed at Test level. He hasn't got
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Speaker 3: a Test one hundred in Australia yet. And considering he
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Speaker 3: made his debut six years ago. Now he's no longer
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Speaker 3: just the young spring chicken, the future prospect in the
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Speaker 3: national team. He's in that first choice eleven he has
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Speaker 3: been for a long time.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: He needs to start actually producing some match winning performances
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Speaker 3: for Australia. He did so in tril Anka a few
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Speaker 3: years ago. He did so in New Zealand in early
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. But now we just need some consistency
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Speaker 3: from it and this yield hundred just shows he's to
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Speaker 3: one of the best players in Australia. Here is a
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Speaker 3: class above the kind of domestic players that we've seen.
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Speaker 3: As you said, it's just converting it into the national stage.
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Speaker 1: And then there was what happens off the fields with
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a minor spat with journalist Tom
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Speaker 1: Decent from the Sydney Morning Herald who was there, and
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Speaker 1: there was a miscommunication over whether Green was going to
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Speaker 1: do a press conference and what it was going to
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Speaker 1: look like. The key point was Green SAIDs on his
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Speaker 1: way out, why are you about to get now that
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Speaker 1: point Green clearly has a bit going on, didn't want
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Speaker 1: to be doing that the press conference. It points to
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Speaker 1: perhaps he's a little frazzles. He's a little clearly the
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Speaker 1: lean summer has got to him. And whether that's just
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Speaker 1: on field or you know, he's got a lot of criticism.
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Speaker 1: Really for the first time in his career, he's been
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Speaker 1: criticized by media, by former players in the media and
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Speaker 1: by a lot of fans. There's been a lot of
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Speaker 1: it reminds me of when Mitch Marsh went through this
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Speaker 1: two years ago, and I don't think it's I think
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Speaker 1: it's important. They are the same type of player. I
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Speaker 1: think in this country we have very high expectations of
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Speaker 1: all rounders, which is not placed on cricketers of the countries.
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Speaker 1: But that's just a little spat with the geno. It's
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Speaker 1: just not quite what he needs and it points to
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Speaker 1: him maybe not everything is going so good and his
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Speaker 1: rough form has got to him.
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Speaker 3: It was very telling reading that report from Tom Decent.
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Speaker 3: It really provided a glimpse at where Karen Green's at
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Speaker 3: and as you said, here's frazzled, here's low on confidence.
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Speaker 3: The summer has gotten to him, and I think it is.
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Speaker 3: It's worrying that he went into that with the understanding that, oh,
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Speaker 3: they told Tom Deson only talk about this shield game
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Speaker 3: going on, can't talk about form. As soon as the
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Speaker 3: question came out, but as summer Camen Green refused to
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Speaker 3: answer the question. And you just can't go through a
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Speaker 3: professional career like that. Like the question that Tom Deson
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Speaker 3: asked was pretty standard, It was fairly regulation with what
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Speaker 3: journalists would expect, and Kevin Green can just say no,
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Speaker 3: of course, I was far my best this summer.
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Speaker 2: I know I can.
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Speaker 3: He had the opportunity to talk about improvements he's made
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Speaker 3: to his mental side of the game, any technical deficiencies
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Speaker 3: that he's resolved, He had that opportunity. Instead, he made
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Speaker 3: a bigger story out of it than it really should
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Speaker 3: have been.
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Speaker 2: And Cameron, he's still in his career.
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Speaker 3: He's only twenty six, twenty seven, He's still got a
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Speaker 3: lot of international cricket ahead of him. But he has
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Speaker 3: to be better at dealing with scrutiny because that will
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Speaker 3: come at every stage of his career.
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Speaker 2: It's inevitable.
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Speaker 1: And you sort of can't really go and maybe this
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Speaker 1: is not on Green and on the people around him.
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Speaker 1: You can't go to a press conference only being asked
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Speaker 1: about certain things, right, That doesn't work in any part,
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Speaker 1: whether it's politics or CEOs or sports people. And he's
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Speaker 1: not going to he wasn't going to get grilled. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's just it was a sort of weird exchange and
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Speaker 1: my big take was really out of character. You probably
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Speaker 1: dealt with Camic Green more than I have, but he's
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Speaker 1: the most gentle, lovely, like never wants to make a
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Speaker 1: story or yeah, just it seemed really out of.
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Speaker 3: Character the gentle giant, he's the BFG of Australian cricket.
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Speaker 2: It was very out of character. It was surprising to
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Speaker 2: read that a lot.
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Speaker 3: I think, if anything, just shows that this summer has
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Speaker 3: taken it as toll on him.
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Speaker 2: He goes to the IPL. Now there isn't a lot
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Speaker 2: of media has to deal with over there.
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Speaker 3: Mostly it's going to be social media clips for the
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Speaker 3: Twitter of his side there. So he gets a couple
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Speaker 3: of months to hopefully get some runs under his belt,
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Speaker 3: have a bit of fun hopefully over the IPL, and
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Speaker 3: then he'll have a bit of a hopefully winter break,
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Speaker 3: and then come back refreshed for the next summer. I
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Speaker 3: know he's had a rough summer, but he's going to
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Speaker 3: be in that team I'm pretty sure, at least in
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Speaker 3: the squad when we get to August against Bangladesh and yeah,
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Speaker 3: hopefully IPL was a turning point for him.
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Speaker 1: So as the Cameron Green drama in this game. This
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Speaker 1: New southwal was Western Australia game, which was a draw.
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Speaker 1: By the way, it was a thrilling drawer. Came down
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Speaker 1: to the last ball. WA with nine down, managed to
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Speaker 1: block out the draw. The other drama, which was broken
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Speaker 1: exclusively by you on the Fox Sports website, was involving
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Speaker 1: Greg Shippard, a trophy and the incoming New South Wales
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Speaker 1: coach Brad Hadden.
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Speaker 3: Tell us what happened, well, I think we have to
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Speaker 3: maybe go back to January when Greg Shippard was told
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Speaker 3: with eighteen months still in his contract, thank you, we
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Speaker 3: will be done with us at the end of this season.
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Speaker 2: He obviously was really disappointed.
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Speaker 3: He said that at the time he was very disappointed
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Speaker 3: with that decision and as part out of that announcement,
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Speaker 3: the cricket New South Wales chief legium On said the
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Speaker 3: reason for this is wren to help New Southwell start
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Speaker 3: winning titles and so, of course, six weeks later New
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Speaker 3: South Wales win the One Day Cup Final in a
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Speaker 3: rain affected final down in Hobart. Greg Shippard he's lifting
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Speaker 3: the trophy on the podium and it's in his office.
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Speaker 3: Come Monday when his replacement, as it turned out to be,
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Speaker 3: Brad Hadden comes in for his final interview, his final
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Speaker 3: presentation to the New South Wales board. Apparently, Greg Shippard
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Speaker 3: grabbed the trophy from his office and on multiple occasions
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Speaker 3: walked past the room holding the trophy off, essentially parading
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Speaker 3: in front of the board. It was very tongue in cheek.
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Speaker 3: Apparently it was a bit of a laugh. It took
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Speaker 3: everyone by surprise. There were certainly some shocked faces, but
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Speaker 3: it wasn't a very malicious act.
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Speaker 2: It was meant to be a bit of a laugh.
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Speaker 3: And then Shippy did also take that into the New
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Speaker 3: Southwell Sheds ahead of his final day that fourth day
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Speaker 3: of the Shield matching against West Austraia.
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Speaker 2: It almost works. They almost took seven.
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Speaker 3: They took seven wickets in that final session to almost
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Speaker 3: get an unlikely win. So the trophy did act. There's
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Speaker 3: a bit of inspiration in the end. But yeah, shit
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Speaker 3: is now done with New South Wales. All his assistant
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Speaker 3: coaches have also been released and Brad Hadden will take
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Speaker 3: over in June when he finishes over in the IPL.
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Speaker 3: And really exciting signing. I think he spoke really well
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Speaker 3: at his press conference yesterday. Cricket Central and yeah, a
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Speaker 3: new chapter for cricket New South Wales.
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Speaker 1: I love it from Shippard. It's just it's so funny
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Speaker 1: because he's been around Australian cricket, not just for years,
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Speaker 1: but for decades. Right, and he's won a lot of
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Speaker 1: trophies with the Sydney Six's as well. I just think
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Speaker 1: it's so funny just walking past that interview holding the trophy.
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Speaker 1: I think it's great. Brad Haddon's going to be the
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Speaker 1: new New South Wales coach. New south Wales for maybe
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Speaker 1: a century, has been the juggernaut of Australian cricket. Has
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Speaker 1: not been the case for the last five years. That's
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Speaker 1: going to be Brad Hadden's big challenges. You know, the
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Speaker 1: old joke was once you get your baggy blue, baggy blue,
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Speaker 1: you get your baggy green in the brown paper bag.
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Speaker 1: That has not been true in the last five to
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Speaker 1: ten years. Who was the last player that New South
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Speaker 1: Wales but use that was an international regular?
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Speaker 3: Well there was well constas was most recent test debt
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Speaker 3: beyond and obviously they played five games. I think before
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Speaker 3: that Curtis Patterson who was dropped after two Tests, and
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Speaker 3: before that we have to go back to Nick Madenson
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Speaker 3: who only played a couple of games. You do look
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Speaker 3: at the Australian side, Steve Smith, Pat Cummins.
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Speaker 2: Mitch Stugg. The New South Wales progression is still there.
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Speaker 3: Those players are still dominating that long time.
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Speaker 1: Though since they were like they all came in, we're
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Speaker 1: talking the early twenty tenths, it's ten to fifteen years ago.
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Speaker 1: Now that those guys debute, it's a strong New South
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Speaker 1: Wales tends to mean a strong Australia. New South Wales
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Speaker 1: is not that strong at the moment and the New
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Speaker 1: South Wales cores that are still in the Australian side
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Speaker 1: or all the wrong side of thirty New South Wales
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Speaker 1: will need to be finding some players.
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Speaker 3: And that's exactly what Brad Hadden spoke about in his
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Speaker 3: press conference. He said he was under no illusions that
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Speaker 3: I need to produce Australian cricketers and he looks at
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Speaker 3: this squad and he sees a lot of exciting young players.
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Speaker 3: Sam Constace is the obvious one, but Jack Edwards the captain.
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Speaker 2: He's still early in his career.
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Speaker 3: He's had a taste of international cricket now, but he's
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Speaker 3: certainly a prospect for future honors in the national side.
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Speaker 2: Lockie Shaw, Joel Davies.
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Speaker 3: Ollie Davies who's fallen out of favor in the Blues side,
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Speaker 3: but still an exciting player. There are a lot of
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Speaker 3: young kids in this squad who have potential to become,
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Speaker 3: as Hadden puts it, generational talent. There are the makings
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Speaker 3: there of that next generation. His challenge now is diving
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Speaker 3: straight into it in August September when the players return,
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Speaker 3: is going to be making sure that they can not
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Speaker 3: only just offer a glimpse of excellence, but be consistent
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Speaker 3: performers and become Australian players and Australian superstars. And so
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Speaker 3: it's a big challenge ahead for Brad Hadden and his team.
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Speaker 1: And I liked he's quite about providing Australian players. We
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Speaker 1: all know that Shield cricket. There is a dual purpose
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Speaker 1: for Shield cricket. Yes, of course winning the games, winning
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Speaker 1: the title is important. Also important is developing those players
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Speaker 1: for Australian cricket. There's the reason Shield cricket exists. That's
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Speaker 1: the reason Shield players are paid pretty well when there's
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Speaker 1: six people watching in the stands is because it exists
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Speaker 1: to make a good test team. One of those players
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Speaker 1: that will be a big focus for Brad Hadden is
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Speaker 1: Sam Constas funny little period since the big batch for
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Speaker 1: Sam concerts, he's been out for eight consecutive scores between
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Speaker 1: twenty seven and forty four. Now that is better than
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Speaker 1: having eight consecutive scores a fewer than ten. But he's
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Speaker 1: getting starts and just not being able to go on
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Speaker 1: with it. At the moment.
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Speaker 3: He's doing the hard part as an open eye. It's
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Speaker 3: surviving that new ball spell. And he's done that every
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Speaker 3: single opportunity since Christmas. He has gotten past the tough part.
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Speaker 3: His challenge now is just converting. Is just going on
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Speaker 3: with it once the ball is lost at shine, once
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Speaker 3: a little bit for tegue comes into the ballers, it's
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Speaker 3: just going on to making those big scores, those match
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Speaker 3: winning performances.
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Speaker 2: He's contributing.
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Speaker 3: I think he actually finished the season as the Blues
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Speaker 3: leading run scorer, even though by his own standards it
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Speaker 3: would be a pretty underwhelming summer leading run scorer. But
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Speaker 3: he just needs to become a match winner. Now, you
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Speaker 3: don't want to put on one player, but the opener
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Speaker 3: is not converting. Is a big reason the Blues didn't
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Speaker 3: make it into that top two on the shield standings.
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Speaker 3: The bowlers, for the most part, were doing their job.
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Speaker 3: We've spoken before about how there's a bat in crisis
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Speaker 3: in Australia. They're just need to start converting those twenties, thirties,
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Speaker 3: forties into eighties and hundreds, because that's how you win
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Speaker 3: Shield games.
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Speaker 2: First innings runs are so important.
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Speaker 1: Constance hasn't really done enough to put himself back. In
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Speaker 1: a Test conversation, the incumbent Jake Weatherwold got sixty two
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Speaker 1: against Queensland after ninety five against New South Wales a
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Speaker 1: little earlier. He's actually ended the Shield season with an
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Speaker 1: average of forty, so that's not too bad for you.
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Speaker 1: Has he done enough to hold his Test place?
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Speaker 3: I don't think his Test career is over, but in
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Speaker 3: my mind, if I had to put money on at
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Speaker 3: this stage, I think Matt Renshaw is probably going to
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Speaker 3: take that opening role purely because he has performed really
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Speaker 3: well throughout the summer across all three formats.
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Speaker 2: He was the only player this summer to.
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Speaker 3: Score three Shield hundreds, and that's despite missing a lot
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Speaker 3: of Shield cricket. Yes, Renshaw tape it off towards the
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Speaker 3: end of the season. He got a lot of low
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Speaker 3: scores since returning from the sub Continent. But my gut
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Speaker 3: feels that the national selectors are really going to back
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Speaker 3: Renshall heading to next summer. He's performed well across all
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Speaker 3: three formats, and in my mind he's most likely to
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Speaker 3: take that opening spot. There is the potential of Man's
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Speaker 3: Labouchet missing out, wren Share going at three with weather
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Speaker 3: aored opening.
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Speaker 2: I don't love that configuration necessarily.
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Speaker 3: I think Labashee's experience will be really important next summer.
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Speaker 2: But in my mind, whether All's.
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Speaker 3: Ash is just going to come back to hoard and
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Speaker 3: unfortunately he did struggle, especially towards the back end of
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Speaker 3: that ashes. If he can sort out that issue that
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Speaker 3: we spoke about a few weeks ago, with being his
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Speaker 3: front had been blown off time and time again, he could.
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Speaker 3: It just really comes down to being more consistent, unfortunately,
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Speaker 3: and he hasn't got a hundreds.
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Speaker 2: Did he get a hundred this summer?
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Speaker 3: Even I don't think he did, so it's hard to
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Speaker 3: say you're going to get dropped off of five tests,
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Speaker 3: But with rern Shall breeding on his neck, I think
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Speaker 3: it's a strong possibility.
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Speaker 1: The only thing that would count in Weatherorld's favor is
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Speaker 1: everybody else is really especially this back half of the
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Speaker 1: shoe of summer. No one's stood up to grab that position.
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Speaker 1: You know, we talked about how few hundreds there have
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Speaker 1: been and camicc Green was the only one to score
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Speaker 1: one hundred this round. So that's seven centuries in the
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Speaker 1: entire Shield since Christmas, and there's been four rounds, so
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Speaker 1: that's twelve matches potentially forty eight innings and there's been
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Speaker 1: seven hundreds, so it's I don't quite think weather all
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Speaker 1: it is the favorite to keep his place, but there
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Speaker 1: hasn't been someone that's gone and grabbed it. I remember
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Speaker 1: that summer where Cameron Bancroft just went and got nearly
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Speaker 1: a thousand runs. It was like, look he was picking.
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Speaker 1: It's not that easy at the moment. Malus Slapushtain's the
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Speaker 1: other one that struggled since Christmas as an incumbent in
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Speaker 1: the Australian Test team scores of ten forty one eight
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Speaker 1: to zero thirteen twenty twenty nine. Those are not the
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Speaker 1: scores of an Australian number three. Going back to Shield cricket,
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Speaker 1: it feels like he's stuck in that spot that he
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Speaker 1: was last summer and when he got dropped in the
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Speaker 1: West Indies, came back and started this so well one
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Speaker 1: hundred after a hundred in Shield. He did get one
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Speaker 1: hundred in that period in the One Day Cup. I
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Speaker 1: wonder how much selectors take into account fifty over form
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Speaker 1: in test conversations, certainly more than T twenty four, it's
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Speaker 1: closer to that. But it's just it's not quite clicking
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Speaker 1: at the moment for Labershane, and it feels like if
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Speaker 1: they select him, which I think they probably will, he'll
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Speaker 1: be again being selected on his potential and what he's
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Speaker 1: done in the past rather than what's happening right now.
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Speaker 2: He's been teasing the national selector.
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Speaker 3: It's been four years since he's got a Test one hundred,
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Speaker 3: which for a number three is just not good enough for.
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Speaker 1: A guy with what's he got eleven test centuries.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just even so far from his best and
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Speaker 3: it's hilarious that he gets roped from the test side.
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Speaker 3: How that West in his tour and then gets back
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Speaker 3: to Queensland for the domestic summer and in September October
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Speaker 3: is unstoppable. He's peeling off runs for fun. He's so
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Speaker 3: far ahead of everyone he has to be picked for
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Speaker 3: the Ashes like it doesn't even become a debate at
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Speaker 3: that stage. He's so strong, and then the Ashes and
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Speaker 3: he starts struggling again. He once again, he get's one
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Speaker 3: fifty early in the season and then just struggles and
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Speaker 3: tapers off as the summer progressive, and now towards the
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Speaker 3: end of the season he's he's just so far from.
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Speaker 2: His best at the moment. And yeah, it is exactly
16:13
Speaker 2: he has said.
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Speaker 3: He's been picked on promise, He's been picked on what
16:16
Speaker 3: he did years ago rather than what he's producing now.
16:19
Speaker 3: I do feel like his spot will be safe because
16:22
Speaker 3: the leading people who could take a spot are Curtis Patterson,
16:26
Speaker 3: Peter Hanskin, Matt Renshaw. Do I see the National sectors
16:30
Speaker 3: going back to one of those guys over Labershane, probably
16:33
Speaker 3: not at this stage as superb they have been this summer.
16:36
Speaker 3: The consistency hasn't been there from Hanskim or Patterson. They're
16:39
Speaker 3: both averaging mid thirties. I think in the shield which
16:42
Speaker 3: is which is all the batsman exactly exactly that if
16:45
Speaker 3: someone had stepped up and pushed up to high forties
16:47
Speaker 3: early fifties, that would have been really caught the National
16:50
Speaker 3: selector's attention. But yeah, the lack of consistency from Labashane
16:53
Speaker 3: is a problem. I think Luckily for him, there's now
16:56
Speaker 3: with exception of the Shield Final. There's no cricket until August.
17:00
Speaker 3: He'll probably will play against Bangladesh. Is that a chance
17:03
Speaker 3: for him to hopefully get some big runs under his
17:06
Speaker 3: soth Africa? Well, Australian cricket fans will certainly hope. So.
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Speaker 1: Certainly on paper the Bangladesh side looks to be a
17:13
Speaker 1: weaker opponent than your Shield side probably, so there is
17:16
Speaker 1: an opportunity for those guys to rack up runs. It's
17:19
Speaker 1: an opportunity for those that are selected to rack up runs.
17:21
Speaker 1: And he really needed to do the work to get there.
17:23
Speaker 1: And whether those guys have done that, we wait and
17:26
Speaker 1: see the Shield Final coming up. I love the Shield Final.
17:29
Speaker 1: I feel it's one of the great days on the
17:32
Speaker 1: great sort of weeks on the Australian sporting calendar. Those
17:35
Speaker 1: scenes last year of overrun running on the ground at
17:38
Speaker 1: South Australia, that was awesome and we're going to get
17:42
Speaker 1: another one this time in Victoria. Looks like Brendan Doggett
17:45
Speaker 1: is not going to play. If you've got a read
17:47
Speaker 1: on that he's not going to be.
17:48
Speaker 2: It seems unlikely. It seems very unlikely.
17:50
Speaker 3: I mean for a hamstrings here to recover within a
17:52
Speaker 3: month is it would be close to miraculous and I
17:55
Speaker 3: just think they're going to risk him. He might be
17:57
Speaker 3: able to bowl, but can he play a five day
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Speaker 3: game and twenty over spells in it? Inning's probably not
18:02
Speaker 3: at this stage, but we'll wait and see. There's still
18:04
Speaker 3: few days to go until that final, but it seems
18:06
Speaker 3: y unlikely. South Strala still have plenty of bowling stocks
18:09
Speaker 3: in there like it is a big miss. I think
18:11
Speaker 3: he was one of the leading wikitakers in last year's final,
18:14
Speaker 3: but we've got a lot of debt with in that squad,
18:15
Speaker 3: so it shouldn't be a problem for the red Backs.
18:17
Speaker 1: It's not Victoria or going to be without one of
18:19
Speaker 1: their leading wikitakers as well, but purely through their own
18:22
Speaker 1: choice because they've got to fit Fergus O'Neil back in.
18:25
Speaker 1: Scott Bowland's got to play well. Sutherland is the captain,
18:28
Speaker 1: so he's going to play. Todd Murphy's going to play,
18:31
Speaker 1: so it looks like either Sam Elliott or Mitch Perry
18:33
Speaker 1: are gonna mix when they've been two of the best
18:36
Speaker 1: bowlers in Shield cricket so far this year. Just shows
18:39
Speaker 1: the embarrassment of riches that Victoria have at the moment
18:43
Speaker 1: in batting and bowling, which it reminds you of New
18:46
Speaker 1: South Wales fifteen years ago.
18:49
Speaker 2: There, yeah, that's going to be really tough call.
18:51
Speaker 3: It's interesting that with Fergus O'Neil his batting has come
18:54
Speaker 3: leaps and bounds. He's averaging, oh, mid thirties. I think
18:58
Speaker 3: this summer with the bat which is more than handy.
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Speaker 2: Could he bet at seven?
19:01
Speaker 3: Could you have Sutherland and him as an all round
19:03
Speaker 3: us to pick in the extra bowler? Then I feel
19:05
Speaker 3: like a shorter batter. It's difficult for Victoria. There's gonna
19:08
Speaker 3: be some tough calls. My gut feels like Perry's might
19:11
Speaker 3: miss out. That's for no reason other than really really
19:14
Speaker 3: bad luck. Is a way to fit them all in?
19:17
Speaker 3: Probably not, because there's so many strong batters in this
19:19
Speaker 3: Victorian side as well, like the experience you've got with
19:22
Speaker 3: Peter Hansman, Marcus Harris, the fresh faces in Campbell kell Away.
19:26
Speaker 3: It's gonna be really difficult to fit all even in.
19:28
Speaker 3: But it's a cliche, but it's a good problem to
19:31
Speaker 3: have for Chris Rodgers and his team.
19:33
Speaker 1: The Shield Final for forever and a day has been
19:37
Speaker 1: your path to the Australian Test team. If you put
19:41
Speaker 1: a big hundred up, especially a guy like Campbell kell
19:44
Speaker 1: Away or Nathan McSweeney, even Sam Harper, who's spoken about
19:48
Speaker 1: had such a good summer, if they put a big
19:50
Speaker 1: one fifty up in a Shield final. There have been
19:53
Speaker 1: countless examples of people performing in Shield finals. Basically get
19:57
Speaker 1: them baggy greens. When Pat Cummins got with me the
20:00
Speaker 1: match in the Shield Final and made a Test debut
20:02
Speaker 1: at eighteen six months later, I think Phil Hugh's got
20:05
Speaker 1: to be one hundred in the Shield Final and that
20:06
Speaker 1: got him in the Test team. I think there's a
20:08
Speaker 1: real opportunity for those guys who are not. It wouldn't
20:11
Speaker 1: be out of nowhere for like a McSweeney or a Kellaway.
20:13
Speaker 1: They're in the conversations anyway. McSweeney of course played Test cricket.
20:17
Speaker 1: The Shield Final is your best opportunity. That's when that's
20:22
Speaker 1: when most people are just normal fans are watching Shield cricket.
20:27
Speaker 1: It's when the selectors will be watching. It's the highest
20:29
Speaker 1: pressure first class game that you can play in Australia.
20:33
Speaker 1: I think there's a chance that somebody like that if
20:36
Speaker 1: they play a match winning knock, those knocks are worth
20:39
Speaker 1: double and I think that someone could play themselves into
20:43
Speaker 1: the Test team next week.
20:44
Speaker 2: Well, it was dog it last year.
20:45
Speaker 3: I think twok ten wickets in that final and got
20:47
Speaker 3: his Test selection partly from that. You know exactly right,
20:51
Speaker 3: who's going to win this match for the state. Who's
20:53
Speaker 3: going to step up and actually produce the performance that
20:55
Speaker 3: gets them that trophy? Whoever does that absolutely puts himself
20:59
Speaker 3: in the national frame.
21:00
Speaker 2: Cabal Kellawe.
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Speaker 3: He's so hot and cold with the bat, but if
21:02
Speaker 3: he gets a match winning hundred in the final, he'll
21:05
Speaker 3: be right. In a conversation heading into August, Todd Murphy,
21:08
Speaker 3: we saw him miss out in the Sydney Test controversially
21:10
Speaker 3: when it really should have been his selection. If he
21:12
Speaker 3: can now produce a match winning performance in a Shield final,
21:16
Speaker 3: that'll go a long way making sure that he is
21:18
Speaker 3: not only lines understudy his future understudy, but the nationalt
21:22
Speaker 3: just trust him to pick him when they need a
21:24
Speaker 3: win if it's too all in India or whatever was
21:27
Speaker 3: situation it might be.
21:29
Speaker 2: If you can perform in a Shield final goes a
21:30
Speaker 2: long way, absolutely right.
21:32
Speaker 1: And the funny little dynamic that we spoke about about
21:34
Speaker 1: the teams playing the round before that match, the last
21:39
Speaker 1: round match was I'll say it was ruined by Queensland's
21:43
Speaker 1: getting bowled out on that first day and collapsing. So
21:46
Speaker 1: that meant that even if Queensland had a beaten Tasmania,
21:48
Speaker 1: they still couldn't make the final. And then it just
21:51
Speaker 1: felt like South Australian Victoria would going through the motions.
21:54
Speaker 1: Neither wanted to really throw a punch because next week
21:58
Speaker 1: is what's more important. It's sort of felt like the
22:01
Speaker 1: story that Shane Warn used to tell about how Alan
22:03
Speaker 1: Border didn't let him bowl anything other than leg breaks
22:06
Speaker 1: in that tool match before the ninety three ashes and
22:08
Speaker 1: Graham Hick hit hing for thirteen sixes or whatever because
22:11
Speaker 1: all he was bowling was leg breaks. That's what it
22:13
Speaker 1: felt like that South Australia Victoria game of like, ah,
22:15
Speaker 1: let's just we'll just play this one out, we'll focus
22:19
Speaker 1: on next week.
22:19
Speaker 3: It felt like it was a Foe Godden conclusion after
22:22
Speaker 3: day two what was going to go down. Hopefully both
22:25
Speaker 3: teams got something out of it, like yes, they were
22:27
Speaker 3: probably going through the motions a bit, but hopefully it
22:30
Speaker 3: did help them prepare for the final in some capacity.
22:32
Speaker 3: But really it's going to come down to day one
22:34
Speaker 3: on the I think it's the twenty sixth the game start.
22:36
Speaker 3: It's all going to come down to that, and yeah,
22:38
Speaker 3: five day game. I think it does come down to
22:41
Speaker 3: the first innings points. If there is a draw, which
22:43
Speaker 3: fingers cross.
22:44
Speaker 2: As unlikely, just rain please stay away.
22:47
Speaker 3: Yes, there'll be a lot of tension on foota down
22:49
Speaker 3: there in Victoria, but hopefully the fans turn up because yeah,
22:52
Speaker 3: as you said, the atmosphere last year Adelaide was really
22:54
Speaker 3: really special and be cool.
22:55
Speaker 2: If the Melbourne fans could replicate.
22:57
Speaker 1: That, I'm sure they will. It's Victoria and South Australia
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