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Journey Through The Origins Of History with Rebirthoftheword Part 1 · The Occult Rejects

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  Speaker 1: You see somethings are going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: What's going to happen? All?
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to the Occult Rejects today's episode. We got a
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  Speaker 3: couple of rejects with us and uh, we got Tyrone,
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  Speaker 3: uh talking about his book. Before we get to Tyrone,
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  Speaker 3: were going to introduce the other rejects, and we got Brooke.
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  Speaker 3: What is going on?
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  Speaker 1: Brooke?
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  Speaker 2: How will you? I'm good? Thank you for having me tonight.
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  Speaker 4: I'm excited to hear more about your book, Tyrone.
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  Speaker 2: And hello, fellow rejects. You can find me on Instagram
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  Speaker 2: at a Dark Florida podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Liwesome and thank you very much for joining us. I
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  Speaker 3: appreciate it. And we got my man Ethan Indigo. What
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  Speaker 3: is going on?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: You m muted my man? Fortunately, I think it might
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  Speaker 3: be muted on stream Yard.
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  Speaker 5: Thank My apology is not a technical glitch, just a
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  Speaker 5: personal one.
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  Speaker 2: I have the book.
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  Speaker 5: I'm super excited Tyrone. Your knowledge and your life story
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  Speaker 5: are awesome. I suggest everyone get it. And I'm also
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  Speaker 5: a writer, so I of course empathize with anyone who
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  Speaker 5: has the same condition as I. So this is going
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  Speaker 5: to be awesome and I love sharing knowledge and wisdom
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  Speaker 5: with everybody, and I write on the esoteric and exoteric
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  Speaker 5: easy to find so peace awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you very much Ethan for joining us. And yes,
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  Speaker 3: he's got plenty of books himself. Go check them out
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  Speaker 3: if you get a chance. And we got Tim Constantine
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  Speaker 3: with us.
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  Speaker 2: What is going on?
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  Speaker 4: What's going on looking forward to this one.
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  Speaker 6: I just learned before we hit record that Tyrone has
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  Speaker 6: got has lived a wild life.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so, and I mean that in like a complimentary way.
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  Speaker 6: So I'm really looking forward to kind of tapping into
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  Speaker 6: some of the stuff that he's he's got for us today.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm Tim.
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  Speaker 6: I have over Cult a Conspiracy On Sundays, I do
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  Speaker 6: a show called Conspiracy Garden and Best Place to Find
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  Speaker 6: Me would be my main show, sixth Censory Podcast. And yeah,
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  Speaker 6: thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 2: Nick nice.
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  Speaker 3: So you got like a show on Cult of Conspiracy
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  Speaker 3: like Juliet does.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's every Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: It's like two people that do that are on the
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  Speaker 3: show as well. That's fucking great.
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  Speaker 2: I like it.
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  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, Oh Julia might be showing up. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, so you know, in case she does, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not gonna have a plug of stuff. So yeah, Julia
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  Speaker 3: cosmic peach go checking stuff out and shout out to Headless.
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  Speaker 3: He was supposed to be here too, but his computer
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  Speaker 3: broke unfortunately now too, Tyrone, sir, what is going on?
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  Speaker 1: Sorry?
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  Speaker 3: It took so long to get you on to cover
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  Speaker 3: your book, but we finally made it happen. And please
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  Speaker 3: let everybody know what your deal is and where they
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  Speaker 3: can find your show and everything.
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  Speaker 7: So, like I always say, everything that you want to
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  Speaker 7: learn about me, you can find that rebirth ofthword dot com.
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  Speaker 7: That's my website. I started that website because I just
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  Speaker 7: had a lot of knowledge. I read a lot of books.
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  Speaker 7: I think I just saw Kilani. Uh do a let's
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  Speaker 7: go out there. That's if that's the same Kilanie that
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  Speaker 7: I know. I've been following that dude for a while.
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  Speaker 7: He's actually very knowledgeable. Me and him link up a
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  Speaker 7: lot of times. Is a very intelligent guy. Uh, you
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  Speaker 7: guys should definitely have a talk with him. If that's
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  Speaker 7: the same one. Hopefully he puts in the message Yo,
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  Speaker 7: yeah that's me, Because I'm telling you, if you think
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  Speaker 7: that I've ever read some books, you think that man has,
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  Speaker 7: He's on top notes on this stuff. So I have
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  Speaker 7: to give a shout out to him because he's probably
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  Speaker 7: new here, and I just got to say that, yes,
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  Speaker 7: definitely all right.
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  Speaker 3: And your book Journey through the Origins of History, Uh,
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  Speaker 3: what made you decide to start writing?
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  Speaker 2: So that's that's an interesting question.
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  Speaker 7: So I've been interested in history ever since I was
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  Speaker 7: a little kid, especially you know, ancient history, aliens, paranormal conspiracy,
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  Speaker 7: so on and so forth. But everything that I wanted
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  Speaker 7: to know was about it had to do with history.
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  Speaker 7: My favorite subject in school was history.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't care about anything else. I just loved history.
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  Speaker 7: And the reason why I wrote this book was it
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  Speaker 7: didn't come out to me just saying, hey, I want
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  Speaker 7: to write a book.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 7: I actually created my website first breath of theWord dot com,
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  Speaker 7: and that was just a snippet of everything that I knew.
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  Speaker 7: You know, I did a lot of research. I've done
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  Speaker 7: a lot of reading, watched YouTube channels. As a matter
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  Speaker 7: of fact, before I started reading books, I just used
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  Speaker 7: to watch a lot of documentaries and YouTube channels and
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  Speaker 7: stuff like that because I felt like that was the
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  Speaker 7: easiest way for me to gain knowledge. But then I
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  Speaker 7: started noticing that people were cutting and pasting what they need.
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  Speaker 7: So what I wanted to do was I wanted to
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  Speaker 7: give the basic foundations because when they copy and pasted
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  Speaker 7: what they knew, they wasn't giving you an exact indication
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  Speaker 7: of where they got this information from. A lot of
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  Speaker 7: people would say, you know, like, let's say, uh, the
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  Speaker 7: Samerians for example, they would say that the Samerians were
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  Speaker 7: a group of individuals who came on this planet, and
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  Speaker 7: you know that the first civilization because of their writing system.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I wanted to know the actual historical event of
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  Speaker 2: the Samerians.
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  Speaker 7: And a lot of people would like to take what
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  Speaker 7: the Samerians, that Akkadians, the Hittites, that Syrians and everybody
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  Speaker 7: else and combine it with the Samarians to say, this
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  Speaker 7: is what the Samerians said, which is not true. So
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  Speaker 7: what I wanted to do was I wanted to take
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  Speaker 7: what I've learned and place it in the location, which
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  Speaker 7: was my website at the time. And I started thinking,
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  Speaker 7: as I got older and things carried on, I said
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  Speaker 7: to myself, well, you know, my website is not always
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  Speaker 7: going to be there because I actually bought my own domain.
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  Speaker 2: It's my own domain.
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  Speaker 7: Nobody can give me what I can say, I can
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  Speaker 7: put on there whatever I want to say and not
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  Speaker 7: be the end of it. But then I realized, like
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  Speaker 7: I said, that it's not always going to be there,
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  Speaker 7: because once I pass away, that website is eventually going
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  Speaker 7: to be taken off online. So what I decided to
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  Speaker 7: do was take what I knew and put it in
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  Speaker 7: a book form. Well, it didn't come about like that
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  Speaker 7: in that essence. I actually started my website in about
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  Speaker 7: three or four articles in. I had this gentleman named
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  Speaker 7: Ken Goodswords who asked me through Facebook. He said, hey,
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  Speaker 7: if you ever want to write a book, let me know. Well,
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  Speaker 7: you know it's over Facebook, and you know how everybody
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  Speaker 7: promotes and trying to get you to do things on
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  Speaker 7: social media.
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  Speaker 2: And it was just like whatever, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 2: and so I.
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  Speaker 7: Was like, okay, yeah, whatever, And then we actually did
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  Speaker 7: a podcast discussion, right, and he still didn't explain to
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  Speaker 7: me that he was an author and a publisher, so
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  Speaker 7: he was somebody that was actually into this stuff, right.
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  Speaker 7: So eventually I decided to say, hey, let me reach
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  Speaker 7: out back to this guy and see what he if
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  Speaker 7: he's very serious about this, And he said, yeah, man,
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  Speaker 7: if you ever want to write a book, let me know.
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  Speaker 7: Here's my books, and he sent me all his books
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  Speaker 7: for free. Then he sent me his publishing company, Dimensional Fold,
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  Speaker 7: and I was like, oh wow, this dude is really serious.
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  Speaker 7: Then we did a second discussion, and that's when he
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  Speaker 7: told me flat out, hey, I'm a publisher and an author.
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  Speaker 7: And I was like, okay, so this man's really serious.
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  Speaker 7: We did two discussions. He likes my work. It's three
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  Speaker 7: or four articles and he liked my work. And this
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  Speaker 7: is and I'm telling you, I've never been a writer.
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  Speaker 7: You know, I never took the time to write anything
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  Speaker 7: like this. I always use things to help me, like
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  Speaker 7: technology to help me get my point across. You know,
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  Speaker 7: I'm not pivoy to all this way of writing and
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  Speaker 7: stuff like that. So he said, hey, yeah, if you
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  Speaker 7: ever want to write a book, let me know. So
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  Speaker 7: eventually I took him on his offer, and it took
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  Speaker 7: me about a year to write my book. And basically
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  Speaker 7: what I did was I wanted to give people the
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  Speaker 7: base of what is out there. So, like I give
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  Speaker 7: you an example. So when you look at chapter one
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  Speaker 7: of my book, it's about the beginning of time. So
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  Speaker 7: when people talk about the Big Bang theory. A lot
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  Speaker 7: of people will say, oh, the Big Bang theory is
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  Speaker 7: not real, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. And
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  Speaker 7: I was like, okay, fine, you can have that argument.
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  Speaker 7: But what I wanted to know personally was where did
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  Speaker 7: the Big Bang theory work term came from. And that's
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  Speaker 7: when I learned that George Lamontaday wrote what's called The
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  Speaker 7: Prime Evil Adam and he describes how the universe came
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  Speaker 7: to be. So I was like, okay, now I understand
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  Speaker 7: where it was. But he didn't call it the Big
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  Speaker 7: Bang theory. He called it the Prime Evil Adam right.
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  Speaker 7: It wasn't until Fred Hoyle, somebody who tried to discredit him,
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  Speaker 7: came up with the word the term big Bang theory,
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  Speaker 7: and he came up with this term to discredit Georgie
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  Speaker 7: lamatre right, And he did this on BBC right around
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  Speaker 7: nineteen forty nine nineteen fifty. I can't exactly remember because
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  Speaker 7: the dates I've read nineteen forty nine and nineteen fifty basically,
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  Speaker 7: and I was like, Okay, now I know where the
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  Speaker 7: word and the term came from. But then I wanted
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  Speaker 7: to say, okay, what was the oldest creation story that
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  Speaker 7: is in detail, which we get from the enuma Elish,
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  Speaker 7: which is basically comes from the Babylonian timeframe, but most
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  Speaker 7: people will correlate that to the Sumerians. Now a lot
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  Speaker 7: of people don't understand this. The numa Elish is Babylonian,
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  Speaker 7: but you will find a historical correlation with it to
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  Speaker 7: the Sumerians. The difference is that a key to festival
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  Speaker 7: which is spelled aki Tu, which is basically a festival
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  Speaker 7: that they had that would go into detail about how
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  Speaker 7: the creation of the earth came these gods and so on
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  Speaker 7: and so forth, and these gods were called the Nuna
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  Speaker 7: slash the Anonachi.
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  Speaker 2: So so most people know who.
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  Speaker 7: The Ananaki are, right, but they don't know that the
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  Speaker 7: Ananaki is a term from the Akanians and the Nuna
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  Speaker 7: term is actually coming from the Samerians. Okay, So I
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  Speaker 7: wanted to give a little description, an idea of, you know,
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  Speaker 7: the basics of the creation story. So yeah, I talk
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  Speaker 7: about Aristotle, I talk about Ptolemy, I talk about the
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  Speaker 7: Edward Hubbles discovery and the Babylonia creation STEFP for creation
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  Speaker 7: myth which I just talked about, and then I talk
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  Speaker 7: about the enuma Elis, so you get most of your
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  Speaker 7: in depth information about how the creation story came from.
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  Speaker 7: Like if you pick up the Bible and read Genesis
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  Speaker 7: and read about how God created Earth and all this
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  Speaker 7: other stuff, you'll get a bigger, much in depth discussion
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  Speaker 7: idea from the enuma Elish. And then when you go
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  Speaker 7: to chapter two, this is where it gets funny. At
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  Speaker 7: A lot of people talk about humans, right, but what
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  Speaker 7: makes us human? Well, anatomically human, we know that we
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  Speaker 7: have two arms, two legs, a torso head, feet, hands, right,
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  Speaker 7: but what really makes us human? Well, there's an argument
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  Speaker 7: whether it's our consciousness, is how we move, how we think,
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  Speaker 7: you know, what we look like, so on and so forth,
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  Speaker 7: but we don't know what these individuals look that looked
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  Speaker 7: like according to the bones that are found in that
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  Speaker 7: time frame.
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  Speaker 2: So I try to give the.
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  Speaker 7: Idea of what a lot of people will say our
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  Speaker 7: human status started because of bipedalism, basically walking on two
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  Speaker 7: feet right to two legs, you know, using our hips
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  Speaker 7: our legs and get around right. And I've done in
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  Speaker 7: the podcast discussion with Michael Krammel, who wrote the book
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  Speaker 7: Forbidden Archaeology with Richard L. Thompson and he talks. They talked,
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  Speaker 7: and I asked him specifically what made us humans? And
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  Speaker 7: he gave me his idea of what is considered an
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  Speaker 7: anatomically human. And he has found evidence that says that
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  Speaker 7: humans have been going back to the dinosaur ages. Okay,
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  Speaker 7: this is not me saying that. This is him saying
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  Speaker 7: that because of footprints that he found in certain places
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  Speaker 7: like California, you know, the Messo America area and so
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  Speaker 7: on and so forth. So I try to give a
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  Speaker 7: description of what is humans, right, Like, we know, we
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  Speaker 7: know that some of those prints.
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  Speaker 4: Are found in white sands too, that whole some of
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  Speaker 4: those footprints go way back. I just want to add
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  Speaker 4: that in to what you shid.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 7: Like he talks, he actually talks about you know, the
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  Speaker 7: the you know, the footprints and the tools that were
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  Speaker 7: made and so on and so forth. And what I
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  Speaker 7: found out later on through my research and my due
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  Speaker 7: diligence is that language started about a million years ago. Now,
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  Speaker 7: we don't speak the same way way we speak a
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  Speaker 7: million years ago. Right, we obviously know that English is
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  Speaker 7: a very new, new, uh way of speaking. I don't
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  Speaker 7: speak the same that they did twenty years ago, right,
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  Speaker 7: so you could see the evolution and our thing. I've
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  Speaker 7: also in the speaking of evolution, I've also read many
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  Speaker 7: books from Darwin, and what I've learned about Darwin is
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  Speaker 7: that he didn't have a said idea of how evolution started.
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  Speaker 7: Matter of fact, his books is more about birds than
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  Speaker 7: it is about humans. He just has a little small
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  Speaker 7: snippet about what humans are because he got this idea
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  Speaker 7: from the idea of what he observed from birds, right,
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  Speaker 7: And a lot of times in his books he says,
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  Speaker 7: you know, if a bird went from one place to
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  Speaker 7: another and they didn't have a companion or spouse or
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  Speaker 7: whatever you want to call it, they would mate with different.
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  Speaker 2: Other types of birds.
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  Speaker 7: You ever heard that saying what's first? What came first?
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  Speaker 7: The chicken or the egg? Well, if you look at
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  Speaker 7: the timeframe when the chicken actually came on this planet,
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  Speaker 7: you will see that the egg actually came first. Right,
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  Speaker 7: It wasn't the chicken, It was the egg. Why because
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  Speaker 7: of reptilians. We know reptilians make eggs, right, we know
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  Speaker 7: there's certain mammals that actually have eggs and stuff like that. Hell,
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  Speaker 7: women have eggs in there and orderies or ovaries and
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  Speaker 7: stuff like that. So we know that eggs is very important.
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  Speaker 7: We know that eggs is a a is a creation
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  Speaker 7: of many things. Right, there's mythologies about the eggs and
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  Speaker 7: all the shapes about it. Right, So I try to
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  Speaker 7: make it seem like this is the foundation of what
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  Speaker 7: you know. You've heard me say this's plenty of times.
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  Speaker 7: If you don't know the foundation of what our history is,
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  Speaker 7: then you can't talk about the extremities of what came
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  Speaker 7: after that, right, you can't talk about you know how
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  Speaker 7: you can't build a house without without that foundation, you
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  Speaker 7: just can't do that. Everything has its place in it
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  Speaker 7: and its right. So I try to give you the
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  Speaker 7: foundation of what humans were. And you know, we know
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  Speaker 7: that the and Nuna slash the Ananaki have stories from
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  Speaker 7: the Samerians that talk about the different creation stories. Right,
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  Speaker 7: we know that we have these ideas. There's no it's
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  Speaker 7: ans and buts about it. It's in the Sumerian cuniform tabits.
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  Speaker 7: But the problem is is that a lot of people
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  Speaker 7: take these cuniform tablets and these ideas and these individual
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  Speaker 7: information and they say that it all comes from the Samerians,
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  Speaker 7: which if you look at the cuneiform tablets in themselves,
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  Speaker 7: they're broken, distorted, deteriorating, and.
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  Speaker 2: So on and so forth.
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  Speaker 7: So you have to take pieces from different places to
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  Speaker 7: fill in the blanks right like, you just can't. It's
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  Speaker 7: not a full fledged understanding of what the anuna slash
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  Speaker 7: the an anaki came from. So that I try to
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  Speaker 7: give you know, the idea, So I give I read
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  Speaker 7: out this part. So in the discovery of ancestral roots,
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  Speaker 7: the oldest Homo sapian fossils we know the oldest fossils
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  Speaker 7: from Homo sapiens come from the from Morocco Africa, which
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  Speaker 7: is three hundred thousand years ago. A lot of people
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  Speaker 7: say it comes from East Africa, you know, Ethiopia. Ever, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: around two hundred thousand years ago, which is that that's
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  Speaker 7: not actually true. The oldest Homo sapient bones we found
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  Speaker 7: on this planet comes from Morocco Africa, which is thirty
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  Speaker 7: three hundred thousand years ago. Then you have what we call,
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  Speaker 7: which all of us in this room right now are
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  Speaker 7: called Homo sapiens sapiens. The extra sapiens part to indicate
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  Speaker 7: the advanced portions of us with the language, the creativity
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  Speaker 7: you know, the inventions and so on and so forth.
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  Speaker 7: That's us, right that's all of us right now. And
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  Speaker 7: if you look at the history of Homo sapiens, you
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  Speaker 7: can see the breakdown between the different elements of what
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  Speaker 7: creation came from. So there's you know, and I even
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  Speaker 7: put that in here. The oldest known Homo sapiens fossils
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  Speaker 7: discovered today were on Earth in Jibrail.
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  Speaker 2: Ohad. I'm not sure if I say that correctly. I
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  Speaker 2: read it.
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  Speaker 7: I don't hear people talking about it too much, so
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  Speaker 7: I say and pronounce it the best way I can.
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  Speaker 2: But it's spelled j E B E l I R
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  Speaker 2: h O U D. And this is in Morocco, Africa, Okay.
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  Speaker 7: So that gave me an idea of what I needed
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  Speaker 7: to do and share as individuals as if they wanted
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  Speaker 7: to know what about the history of Homo sapians. Now,
• 16:55
  Speaker 7: I've read plenty of books that says that the out
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: of Africa theory is debunked and that the actual that
• 17:03
  Speaker 7: we had individuals come into Africa. Now, that can be true,
• 17:07
  Speaker 7: but when you go off of genetic makeups that's halflo
• 17:10
  Speaker 7: groups and genetic makeups, you will see that the oldest
• 17:13
  Speaker 7: Halflo groups are found in Africa, okay, And this is
• 17:17
  Speaker 7: in the area mostly central Africa, and so on and
• 17:20
  Speaker 7: so forth. And you can see that the Halflo groups
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: spread out from different places. This is not me saying
• 17:25
  Speaker 7: that this is what the scholars say. These are the
• 17:27
  Speaker 7: people who have the scientific knowledge, the people that can
• 17:29
  Speaker 7: go into their science lab and actually share what they've
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: learned from their scientific ideas. So I try to, you know,
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: stick with the basic like I said. So the chapter
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: three was about civilization, Okay, civilization? What makes a civilization?
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: Everybody has a different idea. I've talked about this plenty
• 17:51
  Speaker 7: of times. The Samarians are considered the oldest civilization because
• 17:54
  Speaker 7: of the writing system, and that goes back to thirty
• 17:56
  Speaker 7: two hundred BC. Well what happened to the time before that?
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: And can Homo erect this? Neanathals and all these un individuals,
• 18:05
  Speaker 7: could they have their own civilization? Of course they don't
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: have to necessarily have a writing system. But then you
• 18:10
  Speaker 7: have to think about what is the idea of a
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: civilization If they say that the oldest civilization according to
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: doctor Nillie Summet, which I've had the pleasure of taking
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: a class from from Bariline University. She says that the
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: older civilization's de smearings because of their writing system. Well,
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: it's because of their pictographic script. Now, this is no
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: different than what we consider emojis today. So as long
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: as all five of us in here right now understands
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: what emojis we're using and the meaning behind us those emojis,
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: we don't have to use any words in the English
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: language just to communicate. We can use those emojis to
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: have a whole entire conversation. I can sit here and
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: say if you said somebody passed away in your family,
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: and I put up praying hands, You're going to be like,
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: thank you for praying for me and my family.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: That's easy.
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: Or if you say hey, some peopeople will even say hey,
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: I found a new job and I'm getting paid X amount.
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: When you put those praying hands up, some people will
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: interpret those praying hands as clapping, right, so you will say, okay,
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: that person's clapping for me. They're happy for me, they're
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: they're they're, they're, they're they're.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Showing me love for this. Right, So I give.
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: I give the civilization when it comes to you know,
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: writing systems, it's hard to determine what is considered a
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: writing system, but we do know as scientifically as they say,
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: not me saying it, but these are the people who
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: are respected in the field depicto graphic script. There were Sumerians,
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: their advanced civilization. That's why I made a point to say,
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: Homo sapiens sapiens is that the extra sapiens part is
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: the advanced portion of us. That's not me saying it.
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: That's that's you know, these respected people, that's saying it.
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: And I even said right here defining a civilization, this
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: is on page thirty five. Civilization is defined by Oxford
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: which it is refers to the most advanced stage of
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: human social and cultural development and organization. It encompasses the
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: process through which a society or location achieves an advanced
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: level of social and cultural development. So the word advance
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: just means that they're given an advanced idea of what
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: we are capable of doing as humans. And that's not
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: just to say that, because you know it's me saying it.
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: But I like what I like to do is I
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: like to go to the etymology of the origins of
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: the word basically right, and when you go to the
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: online Etymology Dictionary, it breaks it down to what is
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: considered a civilization. And I wrote that in my book,
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: and I broke it down to where people can understand
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: what I understand what a civilization, because when you go
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: pick up an etymology dictionary, you would get the origins
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: of how that work came to be, and then you
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: can go from that. Like I've always said plenty of
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: times in the past, that people take words and they
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: use it for their own narrative, for their own idea
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: of exaggeration of what they're trying to create. Just stick
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: to the origins of what the word says and you
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: won't have to argue that. But if you want to
• 21:13
  Speaker 7: argue that, you should be able to make an argument
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: from the origins of the word and what the word
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: means today. But the problem is is that a lot
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: of people only pick and choose how they want to
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: make their origins of their worst And I've always said
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: that the Sumerians, they're interesting because of the simple fact
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: that it seems like they took everybody's language from around
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: the world from where they traveled at as much as
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: they possible in place an idea of what is being said.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I don't believe me.
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: Personally, I think there's an argument between the ancient Egyptians
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: and the Samarians on their writing system because the hioglyphs
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: you can find before the Samerians. And I give you
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: a good example the French case. You know, they got
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: pictol grass of you know, animals on things, and it's
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: supposed to be a so in language. But it's not
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: a language that is written down on clay tablets or
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: papias or uh paper or some sort. It's just in
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: a cave somewhere, or it's on a rock somewhere, or
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: it's on a stone somewhere here. It's not you know,
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: an in depth type of you know, uh language or
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: or or understanding. A lot of people can can say,
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: you know, I see this differently. And I give you
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: a good example about how people see things differently. If
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: we all five of us went to a museum right now,
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: and we had no idea what's in that museum and
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: it was a paintings and pictures of all kinds of
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: different things, all five of us will have a different
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: outlook on what that painting means to us personally. Right,
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: it's not me saying that I'm right or you're wrong.
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: We just understand that painting differently, not to understand what
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: that painting actually entails and shares to us. We have
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: to understand that people from that culture, right, we have to.
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: We have to take off our tennis shoes, our boots
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: and put on those sandals on how those people lived
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: in that timeframe and what they've seen things. So and
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: the reason why I used Oxford University for a lot
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: of this stuff is because they seem to be the
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: individuals who actually gave the idea of what they believed
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: and what they wanted to share to us as far
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: as what is accurate and what is inaccurate. And I'm
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: not saying that Oxford is the you know to go to,
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: but they gave me a definition and idea of what
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: it means to be a civilization. And you know, everybody
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: has their different ones. The ancient Egyptians I took a
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: class from uh from them, biblic I can never say
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: the word right, but it's like Biblica Alexandria.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: And they have their own different reasons.
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: And they say that the civilization goes bat The ancient
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: Egyptians go back to about fifty five hundred PC. So
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: there's always a difference in between what is considered a
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: civilization because people are picking and choosing what they consider
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: a civilization.
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: I just want to add something real quick. Uh, there's
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: the Native Americans over here, which I think go back
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: further than we understand, but you know, they they were
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: doing this sort of emoji type thing. There's a guy
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: named Garrick Mallory who everybody this book kind of got
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: kind of swept on the rugue that he wrote, but
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: he was He wrote a book on rock art and
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: pictographs and like picture writing, and he found that the
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: pictographs were a language somehow tied in with sign language.
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: So if you look at a rock wall in Utah
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: and you see stick figures and the sun, and you know,
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: whatever looks half an elephant or our pig or something,
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: that's actually not just primitive man drawing stick figures, that's
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: actually a sentence or or perhaps even a paragraph. It's
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: saying something. And this guy was in like the Bureau
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: of Ethnology, he was associated with the Smithsonian and a
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: lot of other big organizations, and I think he was
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: actually going against their narrative with this one. They don't
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: really want this out there, but I just want to
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: add that in. I mean, I think there was this
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: emoji like pictograph language that was happening with ancient people's.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Right, right.
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: And it's so funny that you bring that up because
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: I'm looking at the comments and I'm saying it's in
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: comments and a lot of people are talking. Some people
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: are talking about melanin and mushrooms and so on and
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: so forth. You know, I actually have in my book,
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: I actually have a peer reviewed article on genetics. And
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: this is this is probably gonna go over a lot
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: of people's head, and it's going to probably offend a
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: lot of people because a lot of people don't want
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: to look down on certain things. But I just say,
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: tracing genetics, Okay. First of all, the best way to
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: trace humans is by analyzing their genetics. Where did they
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: come from? How did they come about? I actually did
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: a podcast discussion with doctor Keith Chang. Doctor Keith Chang
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: is the founder of what they call SLC two four
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: A five. That's what he considers the white gene. I know,
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna lose people on this because that's what he says.
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: He's been on ABC News, he's been on the NBC,
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: and he didn't look for this gene because he didn't
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: want to find out where black and white people like.
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: Before we even started discussion, I told you guys, I'm
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: German and black. I can't pick one parent over the other. Right,
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: I can't say my father came before my mother and
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: my mother came before my father because of the skin color.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Right. I told you.
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: Guys when I first started this. My introduction is literally
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: a description of you know my genetic makeup.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: And let me go to it real quick. So this
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: is exactly what I said.
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: I said before launching my website www dot Rebirth of
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: the Word, where I aim to share everything I have
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: learned from reading and researching about our past.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: This is my introduction, mind you.
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: I submitted a DNA test to twenty three in me
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: to determine my ancestry because I wanted to know everything
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: that I was mixed with. My father told me I
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: was Native American. I found out I never had no
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: Native American blood in me, and I took my mom
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: told me that I was I have German and Turkish
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: in me, which I know. I have German and Turkish
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: in me, but the Turkish side of me is not
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: That is not much. I have more Italian than me
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: than Turkish, which was just very interesting. But from my
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: answery report, I discovered that I'm at least forty four
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: percent Subsiharian African, primarily Nigerian, and thirty thirty seven percent European,
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: with French and German ancestry counting.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: For eleven point three percent.
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: Additionally, I have seventeen point two percent Western Asian in
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: North African DNA, primarily Iranian okay, Caucasian and Mesopotamia.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: I also have zero pointy five percent of Arab, Egyptian
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: and Levitine DNA. Now this is interesting because this tells
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: me everything that I have in me okay, And of
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: course it's going to change. If anybody ever did their
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: DNA test from twenty three and me, your stuff will
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: change drastically.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: So I'm sure it changed a lot.
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: Tynand do you think that there's something to the Iranian
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: part here where it's located?
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, because.
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna be real careful about what I say here
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: on this show, because I said something in one of
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: the last shows that some eight ate me up in
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: the comments me a racist and everything else. And basically,
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: like I was talking about the mountain range up above Iran, right,
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: and it's it's Albania, Augie. I can never remember what
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: country it is, so I just said it Caucacious Mountains.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: And I talked about how these people migrated down. There
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: was a group of Hindu people. I'm not saying all
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: of India.
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: I'm saying a group of people migrated down according to
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: some DNA study that I read, from the Caucacious.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: Mountains into An India.
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: And that alone was enough for somebody to go to lose.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: They thought I was saying Indians for white people, and
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: But there is something up there on the because Iran
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: is like the top of Iran gets really close to
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: some of I guess we'll consider like scanning avy in
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: Europe European people.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: So there's got to be something.
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: To that, right, Yeah, And you know Marky Mark actually
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: says sounds like twenty three and me also gives you
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: twenty three answers. Yes, like I just said, they changed
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: your percentage as they get updated information.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Now, this is my thing.
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: When I asked doctor Keith Chang personally, I said, hey,
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: is it true that the closer that you live to
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: the equator, the darker the skin is and he said yes.
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: And like I said, he didn't look this gene to
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: determine which came first.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: He was actually looking.
• 30:03
  Speaker 7: He's looking for a cure for skin cancer. He is
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: looking for and he funds this himself.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 30:08
  Speaker 7: He told me personally that he was told that he couldn't,
• 30:11
  Speaker 7: that the school wasn't going to fund it anymore, and
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: that he had to do it out of pocket. And
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: like I said, I have no dog in the fight
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: whether black or white skin came before. I don't care
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: about that. I actually believe in the fact that humans
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: started around the world in different areas. We're just so
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: mixed up now that we think that we are originated
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: from Africa. That's just my personal opinion. I really don't
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: usually share my opinion, so Nick, you get the first
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: time that I actually share my opinion on your show.
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: I really believe because of my history and what I
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: know is that not everything originated in one spot. It
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: had to start everywhere, in a small proportion of the
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: point where people migrated and integrated with each other, where
• 30:54
  Speaker 7: we came to be where we're at today. Okay, That's
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: why when you read in the Bible, sometimes it tells
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: you depend on the version do not mix bloodlines. There's
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: a reason for that, right, And it's not because they
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: they're racist or they're hateful or anything like that. They
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: notice that certain things happened to humans that caused us
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: to have like these diseases or these these cancers and
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: so on and so forth because of the blood and
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: so on and so forth. Like if anybody that had
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: trouble having kids before, they know that these these genetic
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: makeups kept some of these people from making kids. I'm
• 31:30
  Speaker 7: not saying this personally, this is what's scientifically imperi reviewed articles, right,
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: So I try to make it seem like for the
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: for the for my partition when I try to share it,
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: I wanted to make sure that I try to be
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: as accurate as I could be. Okay, now we know
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: that everybody started on this planet here, but we don't
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: know where each individual came from. Like I said, we're
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: considered Homo sapiens sapiens of today, But how do you
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: distinguish in a Homo sapien, well, the whole ist, Like,
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: remember when I talked about Homo sapiens from Morocco Africa,
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: they had more elongated heads from us. That's where you
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: get the idea of aliens and so on and so forth,
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: the bigger brains, smarter individuals, so on and so forth.
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: This is not me saying it like I said, this
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: is our individuals that have actually did these testings and
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: so on. So I'm sharing what these individuals say at
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: the basic level. I'm not telling you that I believe
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: that everybody started in Africa. I really believe that there
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: was a mixture of everything. Because you have a homo erectus,
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: you have neandatos. We know that there's guaranteed Neanderthals and
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: homo erectus and all these individuals intermingled with each other
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: in the past. There's no denying that, right because you
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: could see when you look at their DNA. When I
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: look at my DNA, I have neanderthosimi I have like
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: zero point three percent in. But this was thousands and
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: thousands and thousands of years that this happened, So we
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: all mixture to what we have today. And then we
• 32:57
  Speaker 7: know the oxygen level, chains and every thing else changed
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: from those time.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Friends.
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: Well, we don't actually know, you know, how this happened,
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: but we do have an indication of.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: How it happened.
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: And that's why when I read the Samarian text when
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: they said they created humans to toil the earth, how
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: did they do that?
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: You know a lot of.
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: People will say, well, the Samarians talk about their Annaki
• 33:18
  Speaker 7: slash in Naki cre creating humans to toil the earth.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine, but you don't have to have.
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: Technology as far as computers and science labs to do that.
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: Think about how they they they they uh create dogs today, right,
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: They create dogs by you know, generation and generation and
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: generation of different species. You can look how the bulldog
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: or the people was created by just different species of
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: the dog. We know that dogs come from the wolves, right,
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: Look at the different type of the pugs for instance.
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: That's not a normal dog that that was created Natali.
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: That was somebody that took a dog that said hey,
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: I want to create this dog from it. So all
• 34:03
  Speaker 7: you have to do is just mix these individuals or
• 34:05
  Speaker 7: these species together, right, which is by basically bisexual intercourse. Right,
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: whether it's you know, whether people want to believe that
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: or not.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: So I believe that when we.
• 34:18
  Speaker 7: Were created, we were created by just migration. You could
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: see the difference in us by the migration that we that.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: We had the all Mechs civilization.
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: When you look at the Messo Americans, right, A lot
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: of people will say, well, where did the Allmecs came from? Well,
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: I've read a book from I can't remember, do I
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: then vond Certema and he gives they came before Columbus basically. Well,
• 34:45
  Speaker 7: a lot of people will say Columbus came here and
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: discovered America. Well, I've actually read Columbus's uh journals. I
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: actually have a copy of his journals. And everybody that
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: was on that ship to find the new Americas were
• 34:58
  Speaker 7: not people that they would send to look for us,
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: like high class individuals like engineers, scientists, and so on
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: and so forth. These were criminals, right. These were criminals
• 35:09
  Speaker 7: who were in jail, who had the opportunity to leave
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: jail in prison to go look for a new piece
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: of land. And those individuals when they got their second chance,
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: third chance, or whatever chances they got, they finally had
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: families in different areas. And that's how the migration started, right,
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: Because there was a time when you know, we were
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: separated by water. Now, and I bring this up the
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: water part because a lot of people will say, okay,
• 35:39
  Speaker 7: well you know, the whole world talks about the flood story. Well,
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: guess what, every civilization started by a body of water.
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: Every civilization started by a body of water. So of
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: course not in our time frame or the generation after that,
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: these individuals actually had a a flood story pertaining to
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: what happened in their time frame, right, meaning that if
• 36:06
  Speaker 7: I had kids and they had kids, and they had kids,
• 36:09
  Speaker 7: their kids could have possibly had a flood that happened,
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: So that was a grand flood story for them. Well,
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: we know that a lot of our land is what underwater,
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: right because of the simple fact that you know, the
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: water rolls because of the ice age and so on
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: and so forth in all the melting pots and all
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: this other stuff. But what I found out is that
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: to understand where everybody came from, you can understand by
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: their genetics, their halo groups haplo groups are very important
• 36:37
  Speaker 7: because it tells you where everybody spread from. That's why
• 36:40
  Speaker 7: I have this map out there, and that's why I
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: said that U Tim that I like your map because
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: that tells you you know where everybody came from. But
• 36:47
  Speaker 7: that's only because we only understand our history as a
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: new foundation of our group and like I said, I seeing.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: The sweet potato thing.
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: Did you come across that there was a sweet sweet
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: potatoes apparently are only native to like North America, And yeah,
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: originally apparently they only they started here sweet potatoes, but
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: they found sweet potatoes on Easter Island. Of course, it
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: was just It's just another indicator that people were coming
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: and going between.
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: There's a couple of different vegetable biology histories that can
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: be really revealing of Humian history. Onion in particular too.
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: They're not sure, but they think it's from China, but
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: they don't know exactly, and it turns up in a
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: lot of places where.
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: It's like wait a second, right, And so it speaks
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: to what you're saying, Tyrone about migration, and I would
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: I would add early migration. Yeah, I mean I can
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: pull I could pull up you might already know about this.
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: I won't pull it up right now unless you guys
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: really want to see it. But I could pull up
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: this article I found about a three three hundred was it?
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: It's three three hundred years Canaanite ship that was found recently.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: That means.
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: Over three thousand years ago people were Canaanites for seafaring
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: I would argue Canaanites, Antenatians.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: And Minoan's and some of these other maybe even the Chinese.
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: So uh, that migration thing has been happening for a
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: long time and they probably knew how to use I
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: don't think it took a man very long to figure
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: out how to sail.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, think about it.
• 38:26
  Speaker 7: You can get on a boat right now and it
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: will take you to wherever you need to be. All
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: you have to do is just be lucky to get there. Basically,
• 38:34
  Speaker 7: you don't need no engine, you don't need any type
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: of rowing and all this other stuff.
• 38:39
  Speaker 8: Ye are going to take you across the world periods.
• 38:42
  Speaker 8: That's why I have the map too, man for this
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: kind of stuff. Because if you go up here to
• 38:46
  Speaker 8: the tip of Spain, I'm so glad you said that.
• 38:49
  Speaker 8: Or if you go down just this part of Africa
• 38:51
  Speaker 8: here you got the Canry Islands. There is a natural
• 38:55
  Speaker 8: stream that flows right over here to North America. All
• 38:59
  Speaker 8: they had to do is jump off the tip of Africa.
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: In a boat, and they would have they would have
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: came here anyway, they would have found it at least Cuba.
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah, And that's what I'm saying, is that you don't
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: have to force yourself to get somewhere.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: The world is going to bring you their period.
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: Like I said, I don't have a dog in the
• 39:17
  Speaker 7: fight whether black or white came from. But I just
• 39:19
  Speaker 7: wanted to know my genetics so I can better understand
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: where my family from both sides came from. Right when
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: I look at my parents, I love them both. I
• 39:28
  Speaker 7: don't care black or white or any that crap. You
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: know that to me, that doesn't make sense. But I
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: wanted to get the foundation understanding from somebody who has
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: technical information on it, and that was doctor Keith Chain.
• 39:42
  Speaker 7: He literally is the founder. He works at Penn State University.
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: I have done the discussion with him. I asked them
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: specific questions and he gave me the answer. He literally
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: found this idea because he was looking. He found it
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: from what's called a zebra fish, and he found it
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: because the way that certain things happen with the zebra fish.
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: The details are in my YouTube channel. But what I'm
• 40:05
  Speaker 7: saying is that me personally, when I wrote this book,
• 40:08
  Speaker 7: I just wanted the foundations, that's it.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Where did the colors come from, where the changing came from?
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: What happened? And he told me that.
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: And the reason why I said a lot of people
• 40:19
  Speaker 7: would get upset about what I share is because they
• 40:23
  Speaker 7: have personal emotions with that. Right, we're all mutants. Every
• 40:27
  Speaker 7: single one of us has a mutation in us. Every
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: single one of us where a mutation from something that
• 40:33
  Speaker 7: happened in the past. Now I don't share this much,
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: and I've actually never shared this before, but if we
• 40:40
  Speaker 7: go into the aliens and extra treishals and all this
• 40:43
  Speaker 7: other stuff, if they're outside of our planet, they don't
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: have a son that hits them like we do, right,
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: so what would they be? A lighter color individual? Could
• 40:53
  Speaker 7: they be technically technology more advanced than us? More than likely?
• 40:57
  Speaker 7: Who knows, But I've done research where when you find
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: in Africa the one La, there are individuals who can
• 41:04
  Speaker 7: talk to birds. There are African tribes that look through honey,
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: look for honey because they make clicking noise and discussions
• 41:13
  Speaker 7: with birds and these birds, they will make these noise
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: with the birds. And I seen this on the Discovery Channel.
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: It's so amazing that they will go to different places
• 41:22
  Speaker 7: and they will find the birds will talk to them back,
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: and they will follow them and they will go to
• 41:26
  Speaker 7: a tree and they will get honey from that tree
• 41:28
  Speaker 7: because of the bees and whatnot. So it's not my
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: my it's nowhere near for me to fight it because
• 41:35
  Speaker 7: I don't have an educational background. That's why I had
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: doctor Keith Chang come on my channel to explain what
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: is SLC two four A five And he explained it
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: to me where he kept this simple and stupid for
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: me because I told him, hey, keep it simple and
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: stupid for me. Now, this doesn't change the fact that
• 41:54
  Speaker 7: you know, the individuals didn't start anywhere else.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: We're not looking for anybody else.
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: Matter of fact, you can go right now and you
• 42:02
  Speaker 7: can google ancient Egyptian artifacts in the Grand Canyon in America,
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: and a lot of people will say that's an that's
• 42:11
  Speaker 7: a that's a that's a conspiracy. But they have locations
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: in the Grand Canyon that are marked off from us
• 42:18
  Speaker 7: to go to. We can't go there and visit these places.
• 42:21
  Speaker 7: So it's not me saying this, and I'm not saying.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: That they have suspicious names too.
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: It's like the Temple of said, the Temple of Buddha,
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: there's also Egyptian names sprinkled in there. All the places
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: that are like closed off to the public have these
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: very bizarre names, so it's like, what do they find there?
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: And I don't want to harp on too much on
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: that bit, but that was part of my genetics part.
• 42:48
  Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, understanding genetics. You know that
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: that was just me trying to understand, you know, what
• 42:54
  Speaker 7: it was. And it was important to me because, like
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: I said in my introduction, I am so I'm mixed
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: with everything, right, and I don't I don't want to
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: make it seem like one way is over the other,
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: but I try to make it seem like, try to
• 43:08
  Speaker 7: make it to the point where I understand what the
• 43:10
  Speaker 7: Holy Bible was talking about depending on the version that
• 43:13
  Speaker 7: you read about where humans came from or and why
• 43:17
  Speaker 7: we shouldn't interchange or not interchange, why we shouldn't mix
• 43:22
  Speaker 7: bloodlines and there's a reason for that.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: I'll back you up real quick, and then I'll shut
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: up because I've done a lot of talking.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: But no, I love it. I love it when people
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: give me this dialogue.
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: I want to back you up on that whole. I
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: don't care who came first, white or black. I don't
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: really care either, and I don't even know to be
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: honest with you, I have no clue what came first.
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: I don't care either, but I do want to go
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: back and find out who who these older people were.
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: But their skin color is irrelevant.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know there was I wish I wish it
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: was here tonight, Lisa. I know she had some theory
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: going on. It might have been something that she read,
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: but I know like she looked into it herself. She
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: was like looking at the way horses and dogs migrated
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: throughout the world and assumed that humans were probably with
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: them since they were, like you know, horses were basically
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: cars for us and back in the day, and dogs
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: were very useful as well, and it would show like
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: it would show like I think she was even saying
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: that following them would even probably show that there was
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: some sort of connection, because I think you actually saw
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: it go up to the United States and then they
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: like cross a cross, like technically jump over to the
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: other side of the water. So it's like, you know,
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: unless they got on a boat, was there somehow land
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: connected at one point, But like like just even looking
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: at that, you start to even wonder like where there
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: was people and how did they get around? I mean,
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: it's interesting there's so many different ways of possibly seeing
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: that there was humans all over moving around.
• 44:49
  Speaker 7: You know, it's so funny that Brian them said the
• 44:51
  Speaker 7: little mermaid was green. Now this might be jumping a
• 44:55
  Speaker 7: little forward into my to my book, but it's interesting
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: because the Samarans actually have the first representations of what
• 45:02
  Speaker 7: could be considered a mermaid. And I say that because
• 45:05
  Speaker 7: if you look at it, and I said this so
• 45:07
  Speaker 7: many times, if you look at the actual cuneiform text
• 45:10
  Speaker 7: from the Samarrians or the Mesopotamias, I should say, you
• 45:14
  Speaker 7: will see that the word abzu abzu, which usually it
• 45:18
  Speaker 7: means fresh water or seawater. Right, Okay, Now, these individuals
• 45:23
  Speaker 7: were known as the Anuna slash Ananaki inky was a
• 45:27
  Speaker 7: fish god okay, who came from the deaths of the sea.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: This is in the cuneiform tablets in itself. This is
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: not me saying that.
• 45:34
  Speaker 7: When most people talk about the Nuna slash Anenaki, like
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: I said, they say they came from plant from a
• 45:38
  Speaker 7: different planet called Nibru. Now, I do believe in extra trairessials.
• 45:42
  Speaker 7: I've had orbs go off on my ring cam and
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: stuff like that. I've had my own experiences. My mother
• 45:48
  Speaker 7: when she told me when I was a little kid,
• 45:52
  Speaker 7: when I was a little kid, that when I was
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: still in the crib, that she had this feeling that
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: something was near me. When when she came to the cribs,
• 46:01
  Speaker 7: she's seen this figure, right, and she screamed out to
• 46:05
  Speaker 7: my pops.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: She freaked out.
• 46:06
  Speaker 7: She grabbed me and they brought me into the house,
• 46:08
  Speaker 7: or brought me into their bedroom and brought and put.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: A cross on the door.
• 46:12
  Speaker 7: Now, what do most fish look like in the sea
• 46:15
  Speaker 7: where they look grayish or greenish or some type of
• 46:19
  Speaker 7: fresh water, depends on what type of water they're in.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Their color take takes the form of that.
• 46:24
  Speaker 7: Now, when I read the cuneiform tablets for themselves, it
• 46:27
  Speaker 7: literally says that they came that inky rose from the
• 46:30
  Speaker 7: depths of the sea to give humans, you know, knowledge
• 46:34
  Speaker 7: and so on and so forth. This is not me
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: saying that, Yeah, exactly, and I'm glad you said that exactly.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: That's my point.
• 46:42
  Speaker 7: So skin color, if these individuals came from the deaths
• 46:46
  Speaker 7: of the sea, black and white, has no part of that.
• 46:49
  Speaker 7: That's just something that they decided. Okay, we've seen Africa.
• 46:52
  Speaker 7: We landed there, and that's probably where because that matter
• 46:56
  Speaker 7: of fact, Zacharai Sischen. Most people know about Zacharas Sitsching,
• 46:59
  Speaker 7: then they about you know, Samuel Noah Kramer, George Smith,
• 47:03
  Speaker 7: Andrew George or even Irving Finkel. And he even says
• 47:07
  Speaker 7: that the Anuna slash Anna Knaki landed in the seas.
• 47:10
  Speaker 7: Right when you read the dog On Tribe history, those
• 47:13
  Speaker 7: individuals came from Africa, win or some of them believed
• 47:17
  Speaker 7: they came from Africa. When I was telling you that,
• 47:18
  Speaker 7: I did a podcast with Larry Scratten, the guy that
• 47:21
  Speaker 7: wrote the dog On Science of the science of the
• 47:23
  Speaker 7: dog On Tribe. They left Earth to go to Sirius
• 47:27
  Speaker 7: b or Sirius, and they came back when the cataclysm
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: on planet Earth ended, and.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: They came back in the waters. So everything goes back
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: to the waters for some reason. Now, if we was
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: in the waters, we wouldn't be black or white, right,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: So my mind goes into why is everybody fighting over
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: black and white when these individuals say they came from
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: the waters. This is what is actually an inm text.
• 47:52
  Speaker 7: I did a PowerPoint presentation on this other day and
• 47:55
  Speaker 7: I showed my facts for the sources that actually backed
• 47:58
  Speaker 7: this up. Books that I've read and the individuals that
• 48:01
  Speaker 7: I say this. Now, Nick, you was at the Cosmic Summit,
• 48:04
  Speaker 7: you've seen Billy Carson. Billy Carson would say that these
• 48:08
  Speaker 7: individuals came that and Nuna, Slash and Naki came from
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: planet never. Now, like I said, if that is true,
• 48:16
  Speaker 7: their son they orbited our son according to zacharaicision every
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: thirty six hundred years. They didn't have a son to
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: create the melanin of brown skin, right, so they would
• 48:27
  Speaker 7: have to been something other than us that looked like us.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: And this is what's actually in the text.
• 48:33
  Speaker 7: And that's what if you believe the idea that something
• 48:35
  Speaker 7: came from outside of Earth's atmosphere, a sun would have
• 48:39
  Speaker 7: to create that melanin.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: That's what they say. But this is where religion comes
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: into part for me, and I'll give it. I'll read
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: what this says.
• 48:47
  Speaker 7: It says before delving into some of the different religions
• 48:50
  Speaker 7: here on planet Earth. I believe it's important to describe
• 48:52
  Speaker 7: my understanding of what religion is. I've spoken to many
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: people about religion and asked them for their personal, healthy understanding,
• 49:00
  Speaker 7: and that helped me with the understanding of other prospectives.
• 49:04
  Speaker 7: I've learned that religion as a set of beliefs, practices,
• 49:07
  Speaker 7: and rituals concerning the universe's existence, nature, and purpose, often
• 49:11
  Speaker 7: involving devotion to a higher power or powers, and often
• 49:17
  Speaker 7: shared by a community of people. Now, this is what
• 49:20
  Speaker 7: it comes into play with me. They say that God
• 49:24
  Speaker 7: created us in this image, right, Well, what image was
• 49:27
  Speaker 7: that like? Is it anatomically human with two legs, two arms, feet,
• 49:32
  Speaker 7: you know, hands, head, torso?
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: Or is it because of the color of our skin.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: We don't know.
• 49:37
  Speaker 7: Nobody knows, but we know that God created us our image.
• 49:40
  Speaker 7: And we also know that God came outside of Earth's atmosphere, right,
• 49:44
  Speaker 7: so that means he would look different than what we
• 49:46
  Speaker 7: would look like.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: But he tried.
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: But because of the migration and the difference of the people,
• 49:51
  Speaker 7: that's where we get, you know, the many ideas of
• 49:55
  Speaker 7: what we look like.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: And you know there's different names for God. Got l Alohem,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: you got el Sha Dai, you got God, you got
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: all these individuals, right, even Jesus is considered a god.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 50:09
  Speaker 7: But the argument, and I hate this when people use
• 50:12
  Speaker 7: this excuse, because I'm gonna tell you straight up. People
• 50:14
  Speaker 7: will say, well, Jesus in the Bible, they said his
• 50:17
  Speaker 7: feet was a bronze. Well, that's not an in caseent
• 50:19
  Speaker 7: what somebody's skin color is, right.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: To me, that's not so.
• 50:25
  Speaker 7: The idea that how we look always revolves around what
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: the where individuals came from and what they represent of
• 50:33
  Speaker 7: what the people look like at that timeframe. And that's
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: fine because elohem could mean many gods or could mean
• 50:39
  Speaker 7: just one god.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Right, But then I go into spirituality.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Both religion and spirituality involve a belief in a higher power. Right,
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: everybody in here believes that there's something greater than them.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 50:51
  Speaker 7: Nobody can deny that. I believe there's something greater than me.
• 50:55
  Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure Nick does, Tim Julia Brooke. I believe
• 50:58
  Speaker 7: everybody believe that there is something greater than them.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 51:02
  Speaker 7: And the good example is that is there's somebody that's
• 51:06
  Speaker 7: smarter than me, with somebody that's faster than me. There's
• 51:09
  Speaker 7: somebody more good looking than me, and there's somebody who
• 51:12
  Speaker 7: is much better at anything that I think that I'm
• 51:14
  Speaker 7: better at.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Right, And that's what they considered their god. But what
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: do we look at ours like gods at right?
• 51:20
  Speaker 7: Our gods are the individuals that helped us in our
• 51:24
  Speaker 7: trialing times. Right, if you got on your knees right
• 51:27
  Speaker 7: now and you pray to a god and you say, hey, God,
• 51:31
  Speaker 7: no matter what you discovered, think of him, Hey, I
• 51:35
  Speaker 7: need some help, and you got some help from him.
• 51:37
  Speaker 7: Whatever your religion is and what you grew up with,
• 51:39
  Speaker 7: that's the God that helped you out in that frame.
• 51:41
  Speaker 7: I give you a perfect example of that. The abraham
• 51:44
  Speaker 7: faith started around two thousand BC. That's the average date
• 51:48
  Speaker 7: about that, right. The Abraham faith started around the same time,
• 51:53
  Speaker 7: which is the Samerian time frame and the Nkadian time frame.
• 51:56
  Speaker 7: Because Sargon of a god took over all the you know,
• 52:00
  Speaker 7: Mesopotamia when he unified everybody at one time, right, that
• 52:05
  Speaker 7: means that it's no different than you know, the ancient
• 52:08
  Speaker 7: Egyptians when they did you know, the.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: North and the south of the Egyptians and stuff like that.
• 52:15
  Speaker 7: And what I like, what I want to share with
• 52:18
  Speaker 7: people is that religion starts because of what we feel
• 52:22
  Speaker 7: and what we feel that helps us in that time frame.
• 52:24
  Speaker 7: So if you're a Christian and you pray to a
• 52:27
  Speaker 7: Christian God, you're going to believe that Christian God helped you.
• 52:30
  Speaker 7: But Abraham was also the individual who.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Was well, just not Abraham.
• 52:37
  Speaker 7: There's a lot of people God tested a lot of
• 52:39
  Speaker 7: people in the Bible right to say, Hey, if you
• 52:42
  Speaker 7: believe in me, you're going to do this. You're going
• 52:45
  Speaker 7: to sacrifice your child, You're going to sacrifice I'm going
• 52:49
  Speaker 7: to make bets with the devil to see if you
• 52:51
  Speaker 7: really believe in me, and so on and so forth.
• 52:53
  Speaker 7: And that's what a lot of people don't realize is
• 52:56
  Speaker 7: that our religion is based on what happens to us personally.
• 53:00
  Speaker 7: That's why we all have a different representation of our
• 53:02
  Speaker 7: own God. And that's what I write in our book.
• 53:04
  Speaker 7: I give the many different types of God. A lot
• 53:08
  Speaker 7: of it is inky and lil nin Hersaga is tar.
• 53:12
  Speaker 7: If a woman was trying to get pregnant, she wouldn't
• 53:14
  Speaker 7: pray to Incy, she would pray to Istar. Why because
• 53:17
  Speaker 7: she was the fertility guy. Why would a woman pray
• 53:19
  Speaker 7: to a male god for fertility and having a baby
• 53:22
  Speaker 7: if they already have a goddess that's a representation of that.
• 53:26
  Speaker 7: So she would be the representation for the fertility for
• 53:30
  Speaker 7: women who wouldn't have who are having trouble with having
• 53:34
  Speaker 7: a child. And I can tell you from personal experience.
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: Me and my wife had a hard time having babies.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: We really did.
• 53:40
  Speaker 7: So this was a personal situation for me to understand.
• 53:44
  Speaker 7: If I was in those time frame thirty two hundred BC,
• 53:46
  Speaker 7: I would be like, okay, I would probably me personally
• 53:49
  Speaker 7: as a man. I would just get my help for
• 53:53
  Speaker 7: my wife to get pregnant. I would pray to Istar.
• 53:55
  Speaker 7: That would be a goddess that I would pray to.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 53:58
  Speaker 7: Every city still Samaria in the in Mesopotamia had their
• 54:03
  Speaker 7: own God for that time frame, and that's no different
• 54:08
  Speaker 7: than what we have today. So we look at something
• 54:10
  Speaker 7: that looks like US, feels like us uh and and
• 54:15
  Speaker 7: as a representation of Us that we would pray to.
• 54:17
  Speaker 7: It's no different than Christians. Christians would and pray to
• 54:20
  Speaker 7: it ins Islamic God, but they don't realize that the
• 54:23
  Speaker 7: Islamic God is no different than their God. Allah really
• 54:26
  Speaker 7: means the same thing as God. Matter of fact, Jesus
• 54:28
  Speaker 7: is mentioned more in this in the in the Islamic
• 54:31
  Speaker 7: Faith than it is in Christian faith. He's He's mentioned
• 54:35
  Speaker 7: more in the Islamic Bible, in the Koran, more than
• 54:37
  Speaker 7: he is in any other the Bibles of the Christian Faith.
• 54:40
  Speaker 7: And that's that makes me want to know why, why
• 54:44
  Speaker 7: is that uh uh Jesus is mentioned more in these
• 54:49
  Speaker 7: in the other texts than the text that I grew
• 54:51
  Speaker 7: up in. I grew up in Catholicism. I grew up
• 54:54
  Speaker 7: as a Catholic. Matter of fact, my grandmother, like I said,
• 54:56
  Speaker 7: she's I grew up. I was born in Germany. Grandma,
• 55:00
  Speaker 7: I did not want me.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: To leave the house until I was baptized, okay.
• 55:05
  Speaker 7: And it's interesting to me to know that because at
• 55:08
  Speaker 7: the same time, does that really happen as of today
• 55:12
  Speaker 7: most people will let their children go a few days
• 55:14
  Speaker 7: without going to church and so on and so forth.
• 55:16
  Speaker 7: So I just wanted to know the spirituality of where
• 55:19
  Speaker 7: we came from and you know, and the beliefs in
• 55:22
  Speaker 7: our afterlife. A lot of people talk about.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: Where we come from? Where, you know, where do we go?
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: How do we come to?
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: Part?
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: Is reincarnation real? You know as all that stuff.
• 55:33
  Speaker 7: And I say this the ancient Samrians who lived in
• 55:35
  Speaker 7: Mesopotamia from around thirty two hundred BC to nineteen hundred BC,
• 55:39
  Speaker 7: because that's some of the texts that some of the
• 55:41
  Speaker 7: people say possess the complex religious belief that depth into
• 55:44
  Speaker 7: the notions of life after death.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Their views on the after life were closely.
• 55:48
  Speaker 7: Interwined with their comprehension of the divine, the underworld.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: And the fate of the soul.
• 55:53
  Speaker 7: So basically we know that from the Sumerians that they
• 55:56
  Speaker 7: had an indication of how did we come to believing
• 56:02
  Speaker 7: that there was life after death? Okay, when somebody passes away,
• 56:06
  Speaker 7: you don't want to believe that they're gone forever. You
• 56:08
  Speaker 7: want to believe that there is still life after death
• 56:11
  Speaker 7: and you're going to see them in the afterlife. Good
• 56:13
  Speaker 7: example of that is I like to say this a lot,
• 56:15
  Speaker 7: and I know you guys probably heard me say this.
• 56:17
  Speaker 7: You die twice in this lifetime. You die once when
• 56:21
  Speaker 7: you're physically dead. You died the second time when nobody
• 56:24
  Speaker 7: mentions your name. And that's one of the reasons why
• 56:26
  Speaker 7: I wrote this book and I put my face on
• 56:28
  Speaker 7: this book because I want to be remembered for what
• 56:31
  Speaker 7: I've learned at that time frame. This is not anybody
• 56:34
  Speaker 7: else's journey.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: But my own journey.
• 56:36
  Speaker 7: This doesn't say that what I'm saying in this book
• 56:39
  Speaker 7: is accurate. It's just saying that what I've learned. You know,
• 56:42
  Speaker 7: the same thing with Ethan. I loved his book so much.
• 56:45
  Speaker 7: That meditation that I said twenty five if I was
• 56:49
  Speaker 7: ten years ago, I didn't know that your book was
• 56:51
  Speaker 7: ten years old is written in twenty fifteen, which if
• 56:56
  Speaker 7: when I got wounded in Afghanistan, that would have been
• 56:59
  Speaker 7: a perfect but for me to get into meditation. Because
• 57:02
  Speaker 7: he breaks it down simple and stupid for me, not
• 57:05
  Speaker 7: saying that he's telling me that I'm stupid. He kept
• 57:07
  Speaker 7: it in the terms that I can understand, where I
• 57:10
  Speaker 7: understand it better, where I can read it and say, Okay,
• 57:13
  Speaker 7: I know what meditation is. And he harps on controlling
• 57:17
  Speaker 7: your breath. Right, we have to get away from our
• 57:21
  Speaker 7: emotions to understand the truth.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: The truth is.
• 57:24
  Speaker 7: Meditation is going to tell you what the truth is
• 57:27
  Speaker 7: for yourself. Everybody in this room has their own own truths. Okay,
• 57:33
  Speaker 7: everybody in here has their own experience.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: You don't have to.
• 57:37
  Speaker 7: Agree with somebody, but you if you don't agree with them,
• 57:41
  Speaker 7: find out why you don't agree with them. And meditation
• 57:45
  Speaker 7: sometimes help with that because it slows down your thinking.
• 57:48
  Speaker 7: It takes your time to understand something. Breathing that's where
• 57:51
  Speaker 7: spirituality came from. You can literally go into Google right now,
• 57:56
  Speaker 7: or if you don't want to use Google, you can
• 57:57
  Speaker 7: go into anything. And how many times is meditation used
• 58:01
  Speaker 7: in the Bible? And it's used in there plenty of
• 58:04
  Speaker 7: times for you to understand that if you look within yourself,
• 58:07
  Speaker 7: you will find out the truth about yourself. You don't
• 58:10
  Speaker 7: have to need you don't need somebody else telling you
• 58:13
  Speaker 7: what you believe in. You know there's facts and there's fiction.
• 58:16
  Speaker 7: But how do you separate facts from fiction. Well, the
• 58:19
  Speaker 7: only way to do that is going If you want
• 58:20
  Speaker 7: to know about the past, you have to go back
• 58:22
  Speaker 7: to the past. But we don't have that ability, right
• 58:25
  Speaker 7: We can't go in a ship or a car or
• 58:29
  Speaker 7: anything like that to go understand what our past was.
• 58:33
  Speaker 7: But your spirituality is all in controlling your breath, taking
• 58:37
  Speaker 7: the time to say to yourself, hey, let me take
• 58:40
  Speaker 7: my time away from everything that's around this earth are
• 58:43
  Speaker 7: the noise, the distractions, and the hurt and pain, take
• 58:47
  Speaker 7: this time.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: And just breathe. Just breathe.
• 58:51
  Speaker 7: Control your breathing. If you can't control your breathing, you
• 58:54
  Speaker 7: can't control anything else. And that's just facts. And that's
• 58:56
  Speaker 7: what I learned from Ethan. If you can't control your breathing.
• 58:59
  Speaker 7: You can't control anything else, Okay, And that's why I
• 59:02
  Speaker 7: said I have no dog in this fight for anything
• 59:05
  Speaker 7: that's fact over fiction.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you what I've learned through my journey. Okay.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: This is my journey.
• 59:12
  Speaker 7: This is not anybody else's journey. And if you want
• 59:14
  Speaker 7: to correct me and show me what's different, then please do,
• 59:16
  Speaker 7: because that's all I want.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: In this book, you know.
• 59:19
  Speaker 7: And the after life I've experienced the aff life. I
• 59:23
  Speaker 7: was wounded into combat. I was literally dead for thirty seconds.
• 59:27
  Speaker 7: I was my first metavac for my unit that was
• 59:31
  Speaker 7: only there for three days. I was only in Afghanistan
• 59:33
  Speaker 7: like three or four days, and then I got wounded.
• 59:36
  Speaker 7: I was the first medavac. I was dead for thirty seconds.
• 59:38
  Speaker 7: They got the call stat Starr in Ellington was wounding
• 59:41
  Speaker 7: it over here. We need to pick them up. My
• 59:45
  Speaker 7: company commander. I was it actually in the metavac unit.
• 59:48
  Speaker 7: My company commander flew me from where I was blown
• 59:53
  Speaker 7: up at back to Bagram. He damn there, almost broke
• 59:58
  Speaker 7: the fucking helicopter because he was trying to get me back.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 7: I was the first one, so my and I tell
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 7: you when I told you that that figure that I
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 7: had seen when I was a little kid, when I was.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: Dead for thirty seconds.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 7: I don't know how long any of that happened until
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 7: people started telling me after that, I seen two figures,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 7: one in all black, one in all white. The one
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 7: in all black told me follow me. The one in
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 7: all white said it's not your time to go. Literally,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 7: that's what they told me. That's what I've remembered. So
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 7: when you read about the light and darkness and all
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 7: this other stuff, I just think that people mix up
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 7: what they believe in. That's that's what happened to me.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: Was that was that when when you were dead for
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: however long it was, thirty seconds, is that what happened?
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: I was it like like very like tangible, like very real,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: like beyond dream like.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: It was.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: It was so real, Okay.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 7: So I didn't realize it was real until I came
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 7: back from my deployment. After I was wounded, I had
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 7: to work in the mail room. I could no longer
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 7: I wanted. I wanted to stay in Afghanistan. I wanted
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 7: to stay out with my team. I wanted to help
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 7: them out, okay, and I wanted to do the best
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 7: thing that I could believe it or not. Receiving mail
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 7: in Afghanis in Iraq is the most moral, is the
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 7: most happiest thing that you can possibly have from right
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 7: people sending you shit. You know you're getting ramen noodles.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 7: Rama noodles were big out there, right, Ramen noodles and cigarettes, right.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Is the biggest thing out there, right.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 7: And I wanted to help my team, so I wanted
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 7: to stay out there. So my sergeant major, my commander
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 7: arm major, said hey, we'll put you in the mail room.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 7: And I was like, okay, cool, And you know, they
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 7: let me stay out there in the mail room and
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 7: I distributed to mail. So I was given It was
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 7: not only that I got life back, but they got
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 7: life every day because they got to see their mail.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: And I was good at what I did when I
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: was in the military, when I was fighting on the
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: front lines, I was. I was good at what I
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: was doing.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 7: I could shoot with the best of them, and I
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 7: was you know, I was in that time frame and
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 7: I can do whatever I needed to do. And then
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 7: when I went into the mail room, I was just
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 7: as good as that. I make sure everybody got their mail.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 7: I did, and I stopped doing what I did and
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 7: stopped working until everybody got their piece of mail right
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 7: and I leave it right right here. On chapter sixty eight,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 7: I said OBEs and A that a brainway connection. Many
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 7: people claim to have out of body experiences, often attributing
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 7: them to their near death and counters meditation ethan good book.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 7: Gotta get his book or entering in astro projection state. Now,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 7: I didn't learn about astra projection until I was diagnosed
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 7: with sleep paralysis. Okay, when I learned about sleep paralysis,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 7: that's when I learned about astro projection. Basically, when you
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 7: get sleep paralysis, if people don't know, for the for
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 7: the team and for the group out there, it's basically
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 7: you cannot move you you're up, you're wide aweight. You
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 7: can hear, you can see things if you have your
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 7: eyes open, but you can't move your body. And then
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 7: what you see is these weird figures all around you.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 7: And I'm telling you, I tell you right now. Every
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 7: now and then, if I'm open my eyes up and
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 7: I see that ceiling fan out there, I don't see
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 7: a ceiling fan.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you. I see dead bodies on there.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 7: I see a half a torsio body every I've seen
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 7: people blown up in half. I'm not even kidding. No arms,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 7: no legs, bodies just blown up and testings everywhere.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: It was really fucked up out there.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 7: And I would see that spinning on my fan right,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 7: and I would be like, damn, this is crazy. But
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 7: that was my experience. And when I learned how to
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 7: control it through lucid dreaming, because I learned about lucid
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 7: dreaming from that, I was able.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: To control my idea.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 7: So I put in my chapter six, chapter sixty eight,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 7: and I give you a good example, Joshua one to eight.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 7: In the New International version, it says, keep this book
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 7: of the Law always on your lips.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: Meditate on it day and night, so that you may
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: be careful to do every it. Then you will be
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: prosperous and successful.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 7: When you was able to control your lucid dreaming and
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 7: your understanding, you were able to control your outcomes of
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 7: what you've seen from your dream like state. Lucid dreaming
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 7: really fucked me up. And I give you a good
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 7: example that we're all old enough to know about. Freddy Krueger. Right,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 7: there was a movie out there, I think it was
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 7: Freddy's Dead. If I'm not mistaken, it's not Freddy Dead.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 7: It's one of the Freddy Krueger movies. Remember when they
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 7: were able to control their dream like states, when they
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 7: had to control what they went through and their dreams,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 7: and how they tried to fight back Freddy Kruger and
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 7: all this other stuff, and how they brought Freddy Krueger
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 7: back from their dreams into the reality.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: That right there hit me because I understand it more.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 7: I was scared about Freddy Krueger when I was a
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 7: little kid, but I understand that from the outside of
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 7: our outer body experiences. And then you got Two Corinthians
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 7: twelve two through four New International Version. I know a
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 7: man in Christ through fourteen years ago was caught up,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 7: caught up to the Third Heaven.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: Whether it was in the body or out of the body,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: I do not know.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 7: So in the Bible, it tells us that we are
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 7: able to do things within our physical body flesh and skin,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 7: or outside of our body. And that's what got me
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 7: to where I was at to understanding, Okay, there's more
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 7: to this story than what I'm being told, okay, And
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 7: I've experienced this on the level that many people probably
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 7: do not understand. And I'm not saying none of you
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 7: guys understand. I'm just saying from my perspective for being
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 7: a war veteran and seeing shit like out there, now
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 7: you understand it better. And when it comes to the Samarians,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 7: my favorite source is always the Electronic text Corpus of
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 7: Samarian Literature, which is literally the online version of the Samarians.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 7: So you can read anything that has to do with
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 7: this stuff on their website, but they also have a book.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 7: And when you when you take the time to actually
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 7: listen to some people, you can never tell any of
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 7: what they experience, right, I can't tell Brooke, Nick, Julia,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 7: Ethan and Tim what they experienced in their lifetime. We
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 7: all have our own paths in our life.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: We all have our own.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 7: Individual ideas and what goes on and so on and
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 7: so forth. Well, what we can do as individuals understand
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 7: each other, and that's where the miscommunication comes into. A
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 7: lot of people don't want to understand each other. They
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 7: always want to put their say my foot is more
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 7: important than your foot, my body is more important than your,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 7: my mentality is more than yours.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: And then you know what happens when that when.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 7: People say that, they discredit everybody else instead of just saying, hey, look, bro,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 7: I'm sorry that ship would happen to you.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, I'm sorry that you know you've.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 7: Been diagnosed to a sleep paralysis or you've been diagnosed
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 7: with narcolepsy, because.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: I've actually been diagnosed with narcolepsy too. I don't have
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: the ship. Like, what's that movie called? What's that movie?
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: Time? No?
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: No, No, what's that movie? What's that movie?
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: With?
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: Uh? When?
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  Speaker 1: When?
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  Speaker 2: When? When the dude was the male jiglo and uh?
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  Speaker 2: And he went on a date with that one chicken.
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  Speaker 7: He had to tie her hair to the thing in
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  Speaker 7: the back so when she fell asleep making it will
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  Speaker 7: old her what's.
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  Speaker 2: That male jigglo?
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  Speaker 7: Y'all know what I'm talking about. Somebody will say it
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  Speaker 7: in the Duce's Biggeloh yeah, there you go. Fear said it,
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  Speaker 7: Duce Bigelow.
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  Speaker 2: Y'all remember that movie.
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  Speaker 7: It's I don't have NARCOLEPSI like that. So what happens
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  Speaker 7: is if I get really sleepy, okay, I have to
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  Speaker 7: go to sleep fifteen minutes. If I don't go to
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  Speaker 7: sleep within that timeframe, my body resets itself, meaning that
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  Speaker 7: once it resets itself, I'm up for the next eight hours.
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  Speaker 7: So if, like right now, I got if I hit
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  Speaker 7: that phase where I'm tired, I need to go to sleep.
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  Speaker 7: But see, this is the problem. When that kicks in,
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  Speaker 7: also my sleep paralysis key kick and that's when I
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  Speaker 7: start seeing this weird shit. I know a lot of
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  Speaker 7: people say, oh, man, you're just crazy, it's in your mind,
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  Speaker 7: you got a brain injury, blah blah blah. They'll make
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  Speaker 7: excuses on why they won't want to believe me, right,
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  Speaker 7: but I'm telling you my out of experience has happened
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  Speaker 7: because of what happened to me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, there's Julia, not to put you on the spot.
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  Speaker 2: You have you ever had Vicky Joey on your show?
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  Speaker 1: I ever worked with her?
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  Speaker 3: I think you know who I'm talking about, that chick
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  Speaker 3: that has the that sleep paralysis experience or whatever.
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  Speaker 9: No, but actually I just did if uh four part series,
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  Speaker 9: a three part series on sleep paralysis because my husband
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  Speaker 9: actually has horrible sleep paralysis. And actually saw in the
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  Speaker 9: comments somebody must have listened to it, Leaves of grass.
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  Speaker 9: I think it's the user name. They said Julia and
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  Speaker 9: Colby just did a series on sleep proalysis. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 9: find it really fascinating. I don't suffer from sleep paralysis,
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  Speaker 9: but I think my husband has just gotten fucked up
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  Speaker 9: on psychedelics one too many times. He says that he
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  Speaker 9: had sleep paralysis before that. Oh, she says it was great,
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  Speaker 9: Thank you so much for listening to the series Leaves
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  Speaker 9: of Grass. But I find it fascinating because I think
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  Speaker 9: it's less of a physical ailment and it's more of
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  Speaker 9: a spiritual experience that people are going through, and it
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  Speaker 9: is quite terrifying. Yeah, I mean I've heard people. What's
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  Speaker 9: interesting to me is that if it's a physical issue,
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  Speaker 9: if it's like something that should be fixed with pharmaceuticals
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  Speaker 9: or something like that, why going back all the way
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  Speaker 9: to you know, the first record of sleep paralysis ever,
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  Speaker 9: everybody's been seeing the same ship, the hat.
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  Speaker 2: Man, the hag, the shadow people.
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  Speaker 9: You know, it's like, why why has everybody seen the
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  Speaker 9: same entities? If it's just a thing, that's like, oh,
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  Speaker 9: it's just you know, sleep paralysis. Your mind's still dreaming
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  Speaker 9: but your body is still asleep. Okay, well that doesn't
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  Speaker 9: make sense because why is somebody an ethiopiac in the
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  Speaker 9: same fucking hat man as me. You know, like what, like,
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  Speaker 9: what's going on here? I think it's a spiritual issue
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  Speaker 9: and I do dive into that in my series. I'm
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  Speaker 9: kind of glad you brought it up because it's really interesting.
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  Speaker 9: And my husband got to the point where, much like you,
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  Speaker 9: he lucid dreams and he in my opinion, I think
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  Speaker 9: the astral projects and hearing him talk about it is
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  Speaker 9: just like, thank god, I don't have that shit.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even I.
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  Speaker 9: Sleep like a bayer.
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  Speaker 2: I sleep like a corpse.
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  Speaker 9: I'm like, I got to go into hibernation every night,
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  Speaker 9: Like I don't even dream, I don't think. I just
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  Speaker 9: like black out and wake up and it's the next day. So,
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  Speaker 9: you know, people who suffer from that, I feel so
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  Speaker 9: bad for them because it sounds like not a great
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  Speaker 9: fucking time.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's scary.
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  Speaker 7: And I'll tell you, you know, everything that I talk about,
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  Speaker 7: I have to have a personal experience with it. Everything,
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  Speaker 7: everything that I talk about in my book is a
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  Speaker 7: personal experience for me. And it's not like I said,
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  Speaker 7: I don't have a dog in this fight. I don't
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  Speaker 7: care about winning anybody over. I'm just telling you what
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  Speaker 7: I've experienced and what I've researched from that. So, like
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  Speaker 7: I said, with my astro projection, it was scary. The
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  Speaker 7: first few times that happened, I was scared of shit.
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  Speaker 7: I used to be scared of the Chucky Doll when
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  Speaker 7: I grew when I was a little kid, I was
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  Speaker 7: scared of the Chucky Doll, scared of Freddy Couger, Jason,
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  Speaker 7: all this shit. And then I started and it's funny
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  Speaker 7: you say hat man and shadow people, because do you
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  Speaker 7: know who Heidi Hollis is?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so she talks about a lot about the shadow people.
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  Speaker 7: And I've learned about Papa Legba Okay, Papa Leugbus from yes,
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  Speaker 7: you know who that is, the voodoo person and stuff
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  Speaker 7: like that. You can actually call on him if you
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  Speaker 7: put like cigars in your corner and shit like that.
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  Speaker 2: And I tried to summon the lot of.
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  Speaker 7: These motherfuckers up, like I'm not scared of I'm not
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  Speaker 7: scared of these people anymore. And the only reason why
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  Speaker 7: is because I've already seen death. You can't tell me
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  Speaker 7: anything else from that. Like I've literally was on my
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  Speaker 7: heart stopped.
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  Speaker 2: I was done. They had to revive me. I have
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  Speaker 2: a real life killed death rate ratio.
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  Speaker 7: I don't play the I play call of duty, but
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  Speaker 7: I lived that call of duty life in real life, right.
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  Speaker 7: And you know, my wife tells me all the time.
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  Speaker 7: Because I tell my wife, I say, I want to
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  Speaker 7: buy a Ouijie boy so I can talk to these
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  Speaker 7: individuals because I have a lot to say. I'm really
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  Speaker 7: scared about what is going to happen. Happened to me
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 7: after life. I have a son that's autistic, Okay, he's he's,
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  Speaker 7: he's and I want to be here for him. And
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  Speaker 7: I get scared because I've been through a lot of
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  Speaker 7: shit in Afghanistan and Iraq, and I was exposed to
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 7: a lot of crazy shit out there uranium, you know, tanks.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 7: They say you're not supposed to be around tanks when
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 7: they get blown up, and all this other stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm scared of for a lot of things.
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  Speaker 7: And Ethan taught me in his book How to Meditate
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  Speaker 7: Geometry that if I take my time and read and
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  Speaker 7: actually breathe right and understand who I am, and control
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  Speaker 7: my breathing to where it's not interrupting my thoughts to
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  Speaker 7: the point where I'm focused on those thoughts. But I
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  Speaker 7: know those thoughts are there, I will understand who I am.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 7: I don't know much about meditation. I have Chinese medicine
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  Speaker 7: balls right here next to me.
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  Speaker 2: If you see me.
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  Speaker 7: Sometimes I'm doing this because my mind is wondering. If
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 7: you see me, I know you'll probably see me on
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 7: the show with those on. I try to calm my
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 7: mind down because, like I said, my mind doesn't work
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 7: like a lot of people only because of my brain injury.
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  Speaker 7: And I'm only trying to understand what the world is
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  Speaker 7: around me, just like everybody else. The problem is is
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 7: because I have so much going through my mind, I
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 7: have to calm that down, and only way I can
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  Speaker 7: do it is by controlling my breathing. And I can
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 7: tell you just in the last few days when reading
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 7: Ethan's book, I was able to push myself to do
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  Speaker 7: that more often. Like I said, I don't have a
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 7: dog in this fight of whatever is true. This book,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 7: seriously is only my journey.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: I wanted to know. That's why when I wrote.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 7: Into my introduction what my genetic makeup was, I wanted
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 7: to know everything on my side of my family, both
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 7: my mother and father's side, on everything mythological, traditional oral stories,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 7: and what the religion said from that time frame, and
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  Speaker 7: I wanted to share my honesty of what I've learned.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: I don't want to share what I think it is.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: I don't want to share my opinion. I want to
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: share what people are like. I respect like Ethan. Ethan
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  Speaker 2: is the He's the go to man if I need
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: to know anything about meditation. I'm sorry, I'm going on
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: to shout, but seriously, if I.
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  Speaker 7: If I have any questions about meditation and bettering myself
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 7: as a human being, I'm going to Ethan because.
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  Speaker 2: He took time to do this.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 7: He said in his books, He's traveled around the world,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 7: he's he lived out what was your.
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  Speaker 2: Van or something like that.
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  Speaker 5: At that time period when I came up with the
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 5: inspiration for geometry of energy, I was traveling across the
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 5: country in the metaphysical armpit of the United States.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: I call it Sedona, which is beautiful. Everyone should go there.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, And I give him props for that because that
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 7: helped me just in the last two or three days
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 7: reading his book. And when I read a book, I
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 7: don't stop reading it until I'm done. So when I
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 7: picked that book up, you better believe I'm reading that book,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 7: and I took a lot of notes and he did
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 7: say he's going to do a discussion with me, but
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 7: he helped me with that.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: So me not having a fight in the dog honored that.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: You said, Oh, you have an impact. I appreciate you, man, Bro,
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  Speaker 2: You the man.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 7: You the man when it comes to med Hey, everybody
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 7: that's listening right now, please go and get his book.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 7: Please please, Hey, shout out what's your book called? Tell
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  Speaker 7: him what your book called, Bro, The.
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  Speaker 5: Geometry of Energy How to Meditate? Definitely exactly. I'm not
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  Speaker 5: objective as you are, and I really have gained a
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: lot of insight and empowerment from the idea certainly.
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  Speaker 2: So I appreciate you.
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  Speaker 7: And that's that's one of the reasons why I say
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 7: I don't have a dog in this fight, because I
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 7: want to know, sincerely from everybody what their experiences are.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 7: I don't want nobody to believe what I'm saying. I
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 7: don't want somebody to take my word for it. I'm
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 7: going to give you people like Ethan and say, hey,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 7: this is what I learned from this individual. This is
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 7: what I this is what I got from him. Okay,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 7: he put me on, he helped me be better person,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 7: even though there's just two or three days ago.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: Reading his book.
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  Speaker 7: Every every day that I live is a way for
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 7: me to better myself, and a lot of people don't
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 7: understand it. And that's why when I when I talk
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 7: about the Noon and slash the Anaki, I want to
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 7: know where these gods came from. Because I'm not a
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  Speaker 7: religious person. I just know that there's something more powerful
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 7: than me. Whether they look like me or not, I
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 7: don't care. A lot of people look for somebody that
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 7: looks like them and mimics that person. No, I don't
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 7: care about that. If you're a good person, you're a
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 7: good person. If you're a bad person, you're a bad person.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 7: That's what it is.
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  Speaker 1: Close your words, look into the darkness, find the blazing,
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  Speaker 1: start focus on and it'll become the eclipse. Don't feel
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  Speaker 1: that the shore begin guess you sh
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  Speaker 6: I don't want to any