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- 0:04Welcome to Uncluttered and Unfiltered, the podcast urging
- 0:08you to let it go and don't look back, with nationally acclaimed
- 0:12professional organizer Christine Stone and self-proclaimed Hot
- 0:17Damn Mess radio and TV personality Eden Kendall.
- 0:22Welcome everyone to Uncluttered and Unfiltered, the podcast for
- 0:26women over 50 and that also includes Women Over. 60 yes,
- 0:31very shortly, women over 60 besides me, it will be you.
- 0:36Yep, and we're going to talk about that in this and coming
- 0:39episodes for sure. But our topic today is going to
- 0:43sound crazy. It's the vegan plus bacon
- 0:47philosophy, and we will explain that the vegan plus bacon
- 0:51philosophy. It's a whole thing online.
- 0:54But before we get to that, you and I got to spend some quality
- 0:58time together with our chaperone, my husband at the KC
- 1:02and the Sunshine Band show. Look.
- 1:03At my smile. It was fantastic.
- 1:07It was so. Much fun.
- 1:10So much fun. He was so gracious on stage, you
- 1:16know, just, he surrounded himself just like he told us he
- 1:19did with so many talented people.
- 1:22And he gave them all their moment, including the woman that
- 1:25you couldn't stop raving about, Maria, who is over 60 and
- 1:30crushing it as a singer and backup dancer.
- 1:33Yes, yes, I I told you about her in the fall when I went and saw
- 1:37him with my husband and we told him about it.
- 1:42If you go back to our KC episode and he remembered when we met
- 1:47him and I was so in awe of that, that he remembered.
- 1:52He said, oh, I told Maria all about you too.
- 1:54So I was so thrilled that he actually remembered who we were.
- 1:59Yeah, when we were walking up, we were in a line.
- 2:00It was like a meet and greet line.
- 2:02You may remember. He, I don't know if it was still
- 2:05recording when he invited us to come backstage and say hello.
- 2:08But we get backstage and he he saw us approach and he said,
- 2:14ladies, you're here. I've been looking for you at my
- 2:17other Florida shows. I didn't remember what city, but
- 2:20I've been looking for you and I told Maria about you.
- 2:23And then after we did our photo with him, he turned to my
- 2:27husband and said this you're you're a lucky guy.
- 2:30And my husband, we walked out and my husband said, did you
- 2:32hear what he said? He said you are very lucky to
- 2:36have me. I was like I missed.
- 2:38That I. Heard him say you are lucky so.
- 2:44It was a night. It was a night.
- 2:46I loved every minute of it. And he's lost a bunch of weight
- 2:50recently. Remember, he told us he'd been
- 2:51playing a lot of tennis and had a coach.
- 2:54He looked great. He looked great, he sounded
- 2:56amazing. It it definitely worth seeing.
- 3:00I mean, they give you a show and could you believe how long they
- 3:04played? I mean, I was looking at my
- 3:06watch going I'm normally have been sleeping in bed for 2 1/2
- 3:11hours. I am in awe of how they can do
- 3:15this and be wide awake and be, you know, I, I could never like
- 3:21and it was a weeknight, which for me is very rare going out on
- 3:24a weeknight. They clearly have naps during
- 3:28the day. Maybe not the babies, maybe not
- 3:31that young little lady that was the dancer.
- 3:34She may not need a nap. She might just sleep until 9:30.
- 3:36Ten would be good. But I'm going to say that and
- 3:39we'll ask her because guess what?
- 3:41We're going to be speaking with her.
- 3:42We will ask Maria if some of the older folks on that tour take
- 3:47naps. During the night.
- 3:48Because they have to. There's just no chance.
- 3:50So we'll ask about that. What is on your radar this week?
- 3:54OK, So what is on my radar? I had a wedding to go to and it
- 3:58was a formal wedding. If you're over 60, maybe even I
- 4:04I don't know about the ladies over 50, but if you're over 60
- 4:08and you are trying to find a formal dress for a wedding, good
- 4:14luck. Good luck.
- 4:17You either have to look like an old lady, I mean old lady, like
- 4:2280 year old lady, or they're just unattractive or the colors
- 4:29are off. It was so terrible.
- 4:32So what did I do? I ended up just wearing
- 4:34something I already had, which of course it was black.
- 4:37Hello. And it was fine.
- 4:40It was fine. I've just worn it to so many
- 4:43weddings that I wanted something new.
- 4:46But I might have to go into dress designing because I'm
- 4:49telling you, it is slim pickings out there for ladies over 60
- 4:55when it comes to formal wedding attire and you don't want to
- 4:59spend thousands of dollars. For someone.
- 5:03Else's wedding. If you're the mother of the
- 5:05bride's groom. That's, you know, you can spend
- 5:07a little more. Than want to but I'm saying no
- 5:10no. Well, I told you for my
- 5:13daughter's wedding, my dress cost $175 and no one could
- 5:17believe it, but I said, and it was sequins and gold.
- 5:21But I was not spending thousands of dollars on a dress that I
- 5:26would never, ever, ever wear again.
- 5:28You can't wear it again. No, because it's in all the
- 5:31photos. It's in every photo.
- 5:33It can't be worn again. I just, I have a thing about,
- 5:38you know, formal attire, I guess, because as you get older
- 5:42and I don't know if you see this, what are the chances that
- 5:45you're going to be going to a lot of formal events?
- 5:49You're not. A very rare.
- 5:51Carpet season. No.
- 5:52And I just even weddings, most of them that I go to are more
- 5:57they're not black tie. So you just don't want to invest
- 6:01in a lot of really dressy, sequiny things that cost a lot
- 6:06of money. I'm getting ready to host a
- 6:08black tie event and I'm going to go on a rental site, right?
- 6:13Look for something great and then if that doesn't workout,
- 6:15I'm coming to your house. I don't know if I have anything
- 6:19left but my daughter just did that for a wedding she's going
- 6:22to. She renting or she came to your
- 6:25house? No, no, she's done that a lot.
- 6:29No, for a dress because it was formal also and it was the most
- 6:34stunningly beautiful dress that was normally like 8 or $900 and
- 6:39she rented it and she's going to send it back.
- 6:41So I mean it fit her like a glove.
- 6:43That's. That's fantastic.
- 6:45That's that's what I'm planning to do.
- 6:47I have a little bit of time before that rolls around, but
- 6:49yeah, that's the plan. So what's on yours?
- 6:52Well I just watched a fantastic ROM com on Netflix called Office
- 6:56Romance. I watched it last.
- 6:57Night. Did you start?
- 6:59Jennifer Lopez and Brett Goldstein from Ted Lasso?
- 7:02He plays Roy on Ted Lasso. Their chemistry, I think.
- 7:06Maybe the best chemistry. She's ever had with another
- 7:09actor. Ever, ever ever.
- 7:11Fantastic chemistry and they're doing a lot of press together
- 7:14and chemistry exists, but much? Better than and I'm a huge
- 7:19wedding planner with Matthew McConaughey, and with her, I
- 7:23thought this chemistry was it looked real.
- 7:26It was so fantastic, and he's one of those guys that sometimes
- 7:32he looks sexy to me and sometimes he looks the complete
- 7:34opposite. He's also in Shrinking, which is
- 7:37by the makers of Ted Lasso, and he's a writer, so I knew he was
- 7:41one of the writers on this. He was a writer at on Ted Lasso
- 7:44and wasn't ever going to be in Ted Lasso.
- 7:46He was just one of the creators and so I knew he had this very
- 7:50edgy, funny sense of humor. This is a sweet ROM com, but
- 7:54it's edgy. It's like a no they did not go
- 7:58there kind of howl out loud laughter movie.
- 8:01It's so funny. And I was happy to see chest
- 8:05hair is back. How about you?
- 8:07Big time chest hair is. Back.
- 8:08I loved it. I loved it.
- 8:10Big on another show I'm watching Rivals, which is a British.
- 8:15Show. And and rivals it was made.
- 8:19It's a it's an English show and it's sometimes you know, you can
- 8:23tell like it's an American show made to be in England.
- 8:25This is like British to the point where sometimes I'm like,
- 8:28thank goodness the sub captions are on.
- 8:30But Declan, one of the main characters is very hairy and
- 8:34they just did a slow motion scene where they said unbutton
- 8:37your shirt, show some hair and he's riding a horse in his hair.
- 8:42It's just. I've always had a thing about
- 8:46men who shaved their chest because to me, hair means you're
- 8:50a man. When you don't have hair, it's
- 8:53like you're a boy. I don't know why I feel that
- 8:56way, but that's how I've always felt.
- 8:58So I was never into the shaving of the chest hair kind of thing.
- 9:04I mean, I know. I'm not a chest hair person but
- 9:06I would never prefer shaved over really.
- 9:10Wait, wait, I'm that's another thing she like and I like the
- 9:16hair. I laugh because we always make
- 9:18comparisons how how different we are.
- 9:21So let's get away. Because if we were, if we were
- 9:23friends like we are now, back in the day, the single days, we
- 9:26would never have to fight over guys, right?
- 9:28Because you can have all the hairy ones.
- 9:32Maybe it's because I'm Greek and Lebanese and it's the Middle
- 9:36Eastern thing and you just don't see men with shaved chests that
- 9:41are older, like my age. I think that's.
- 9:43Survival of the fitting your your your heritage would never
- 9:47have been able to procreate and continue without the women were
- 9:51bred with an aversion to hair. Right, exactly.
- 9:54So the only way to continue keeping the the Greek
- 9:58livelihood, you have to have that inner like desire to be a
- 10:02really man there. It's science.
- 10:05Yeah, but it was good. I highly recommend it if you
- 10:08like ROM coms. I thought it was so right there.
- 10:11I mean, I just. Love this romance on.
- 10:14Netflix, it was so. Really, really funny.
- 10:17It's a it's a great movie. It's a great movie.
- 10:19You got anything else on your radar?
- 10:21The only other thing is I have been experimenting with a lot of
- 10:25eye patches. I'm really pirate.
- 10:29No, not those kind the ones you put under your eyes and I
- 10:34literally I must have four of the round containers in my
- 10:39refrigerator and then some that are in their own, you know, peel
- 10:43off bag. I am been on a the hunt to find
- 10:48the perfect deep huffing, you know, takes away the blacks, you
- 10:54know, dark circles, fine lines and wrinkles.
- 10:59And so far I have one that is really, really on my radar, but
- 11:04it's too soon to discuss. But this is what I've been
- 11:08doing. I I try them at different like
- 11:11morning in the evening, one-on-one eye.
- 11:17Documenting it? Are you writing it down?
- 11:19I definitely have it documented in my head because I'm so picky
- 11:25about what I'm targeting so I will get back to you guys, but I
- 11:31am determined to find the perfect eye under eye patch.
- 11:35I love it. Thank you for doing the work.
- 11:39Thank you for doing the work. My last radar thing is I feel
- 11:43like I went to talk about this before and didn't, but argon oil
- 11:48and that is for my hair and also skin.
- 11:50And then lately I've been using it like on my eyelashes and on
- 11:53my eyebrows. It's just pure, 100% pure argon
- 11:57oil, which is often recommended for people to smooth out their
- 12:00hair and get rid of the frizz. But I've been really kind of
- 12:04leaning into it. I even added a little one of my
- 12:06bottles. I even added a little perfume
- 12:08to. So when I put it all over my
- 12:09skin, I get my perfume smell, which I know is not your thing,
- 12:13and one more thing, you. Sell my facial.
- 12:15Expression. She's not a perfume person, but
- 12:17but yeah, so to me it's like a very inexpensive kind of locks
- 12:21in the moisture after a shower. I put some of my hair gives me a
- 12:24little more shine little what do they call it?
- 12:27Slip, little slip on my hair. So if I do this, if my hair
- 12:30slips, it's I just that's what's on my radar right now.
- 12:34Just look it, look it up, investigate it.
- 12:36It's a. Jehovah oil.
- 12:39That's a. Similar oil.
- 12:40It's a similar oil. Some oils they say are more.
- 12:44I think the word is committagenic where it doesn't
- 12:46go into your port. You know, and that's why I use
- 12:49Jehovah oil, because my face breaks out.
- 12:52Right, so. You're still ladies, any of you
- 12:54over 60 FYI. Oh, I had I've today I had a
- 12:59little a little pimple right here and I said to my husband, I
- 13:03must have my period. He's like that.
- 13:05It's a miracle. I'm like, that would not be a
- 13:07miracle. So after hysterectomy, I don't
- 13:10think. So, yeah, right.
- 13:11Exactly. You have nothing to blame that
- 13:13pimple on. Yeah.
- 13:14I don't know what caused it. I was like, what are you doing
- 13:16down there, buddy? All right, why don't we take a
- 13:19quick break and come back with our topic, which is vegan plus
- 13:23bacon. I know it sounds strange, but I
- 13:25promise there is some some research that went into this
- 13:28one. We'll be right back.
- 14:15Welcome back. We are talking today about the
- 14:18vegan plus bacon principle, which basically stemmed from a
- 14:22video where somebody said, let's say you want to be a vegan, but
- 14:26you know you can't give up bacon.
- 14:28All right, so be a vegan plus bacon.
- 14:30And the way that this is meant to be taken is all or nothing.
- 14:37Thinking makes change harder, meaning if you think it has to
- 14:41be all or nothing about everything you do in life, it
- 14:44makes it harder to start. So the all or nothing thinking
- 14:50is kind of like this. And I'm going to tell you some
- 14:52of the things it could apply to exercise, reading, studying,
- 14:59therapy, practicing instruments, eating more vegetables, being on
- 15:03social media less. And the idea is, let's take
- 15:07exercise, for example. If I go decide I want to start
- 15:11going to the gym, I have to go for an hour every day.
- 15:14Or how about this? You could go for 20 minutes or
- 15:1810 minutes or 5 minutes. You don't have to decide like
- 15:21some big blanket statement, I'm going to do this and I'm going
- 15:24to do it all the way. You don't have to whole asset.
- 15:27You can half ass it sometimes and still get benefits.
- 15:31I think I was told go all the way in.
- 15:34I agree. I I have noticed, especially now
- 15:38that I'm older, that if I try to do something to the extreme like
- 15:43that, like where I'm just going to cut out a whole food group or
- 15:46I'm just going to exercise for two hours straight.
- 15:50Never happens anymore. It's it has to be where I have
- 15:56some sort of flexibility in it because I almost feel anxiety
- 16:01when I do it the other way. Like, Oh no, I had, you know, 1
- 16:05mini chocolate chip cookie. Now I'm doomed and and then you
- 16:10feel guilty and anxiety. So I don't buy into the all or
- 16:15nothing type way of doing things.
- 16:18I don't care what what it involves.
- 16:21I mean, even in organization, people are like, if I don't
- 16:24organize the the whole entire house, forget it.
- 16:27I mean, one room won't do because then there it just never
- 16:31happens. It never works that way.
- 16:33You have to take small baby steps to me and doing something
- 16:38that is that, especially being a vegan for me, I'm a huge meat
- 16:43eater and that would be really tough for me.
- 16:48Right. But let's just say, and exactly
- 16:50what you just said, but let's just say you, like me, are
- 16:54trying to increase your protein intake and there's a meal that
- 16:59you want to have at a restaurant that you love.
- 17:01And the meal that you love at that restaurant doesn't have
- 17:03meat in it. OK, So I'm trying to get more
- 17:05protein, but I'm still going to go to the place where I love
- 17:09their blah, blah, blah salad because not every meal.
- 17:13I'm still going to benefit from the other two meals during the
- 17:16day where I got the protein in. So I didn't do three meals that
- 17:19day. OK, You don't have to just
- 17:23decide, throw your hands up in the air and say I'm a failure.
- 17:25And I think the way that they described it in the in the
- 17:29slideshow that I have in front of me basically was saying,
- 17:33here's an example of practicing the piano.
- 17:35I have to practice my hardest piece every single day.
- 17:39Or how about this? You could take a break.
- 17:42You could play something different.
- 17:44You could practice just scales for 5 minutes, or you could play
- 17:47chopsticks for one minute. You're still playing the piano.
- 17:52Yeah, I mean, my philosophy, and this isn't fatalistic, this is
- 17:57just, I would say in the last 10 years, So since I turned 50, my
- 18:03philosophy is so say everyone wants to go to a steakhouse, but
- 18:06you don't eat steak. My philosophy is if I miss that
- 18:12steak, even though I really, really, really want it, if I
- 18:17drop dead tomorrow and I'm up in heaven and I'm looking down and
- 18:21I'm like, you could have just eaten that one steak.
- 18:25It wouldn't have killed you because you're dead.
- 18:28I mean, I feel like people miss out on some pleasures and
- 18:32enjoyment, especially as they get older and they still try to
- 18:38stick to that same philosophy. I feel like you're missing out
- 18:43on a lot of pleasurable things that you know bring you joy and
- 18:49you don't do them. Or you're afraid to put a label
- 18:53on something because you don't think you're doing it as much as
- 18:58someone else. And this happens all the time in
- 19:00the running community. I'm not a runner like you're a
- 19:02runner. Well.
- 19:04You know, you say that, but if you run and it's at, you know, a
- 19:0915 minute pace and you're doing it once a month, you're running,
- 19:13you know, it's nobody's here to decide who's doing it the most.
- 19:17Well coming from a non runner you're right.
- 19:19If you run even up the block, you're a runner to me, right?
- 19:23Exactly. It's all relative and you don't
- 19:25have to be all into any one thing.
- 19:27So you know, to say I'm not an artist but you like to doodle,
- 19:31then you're then you're an artist.
- 19:33And as far as I'm concerned, you're what you want to be.
- 19:36And you don't have to check every single box to be a part of
- 19:40any single movement. You don't have to complete every
- 19:43single task to feel like you're worthy of calling yourself
- 19:49anything. And that's, that's vegan plus
- 19:52bacon. That's saying, you know, maybe I
- 19:55should have more plant in my diet.
- 19:58So. I'll eat some more plants.
- 20:01Doesn't mean you have to cut out everything else, just you do
- 20:04you. Boo has the.
- 20:05Well exactly, and also, I mean every day is a different day.
- 20:10I always say that about everything, the mood you're in.
- 20:13Something bad may happen one day, but tomorrow is a new day.
- 20:16Same with OK if you had a piece of bacon, it doesn't ruin your
- 20:22whole week. Tomorrow's a new day and just
- 20:25pick up where you left off. I think people beat themselves
- 20:29up so much much over little tiny things.
- 20:33And that's the joy about being over 50 is you don't really beat
- 20:38yourself up that much anymore over, like, the little things
- 20:41because there are so many other real important things that you
- 20:46don't do what you did when you were under 50 where you, like,
- 20:49really focused on, like you said, vegan plus bacon.
- 20:55I can't. Yeah.
- 20:56You know. There there's a saying, and I
- 21:00want to give you the opposites of this saying, but there's a
- 21:02saying that says good enough is the enemy of excellence.
- 21:06But in this particular case, perfection is the enemy of good.
- 21:12I agree. On that for a minute, if you
- 21:14feel like you're not doing it all the way doesn't mean you're
- 21:18not doing it, Good for you for doing or not doing whatever it
- 21:23is. IIA 100% agree.
- 21:26And that's why in my business people want everything to be
- 21:32perfect and then it is and I leave and it becomes normal life
- 21:38where people are living in their home and enjoying it and then
- 21:41they feel like it's not perfect anymore.
- 21:44And you can do both. It doesn't have to be all the
- 21:49time, seven days a week, 24 hours a day.
- 21:53I just think that people get to extremes and then and then they
- 21:58get depressed and miserable. Exactly.
- 22:01Exactly. So no more perfection, no more
- 22:04striving for perfection. Let's strive instead for some
- 22:07happiness and some forgiveness and some good.
- 22:09And enjoying one day at a time because that's really all we
- 22:13have in my opinion. I mean, you're not guaranteed
- 22:16more than that. So enjoy the day.
- 22:19I say have that cookie. That's just me, but.
- 22:22Have that bacon, can you vegan? Yeah, have that bacon, have that
- 22:26one cookie, like the sprinkle thing that's going on right now,
- 22:31the sprinkle cakes. Yeah, the dot cakes or whatever
- 22:35you call them. I literally was like, I'm having
- 22:39one of those, end of story. Like I saw that they made them
- 22:42at a local bakery. I'm like, I'm going up there and
- 22:44I'm getting a dot cake. I reached out yesterday to a
- 22:49bakery that's doing a bunch of those dot cakes and I was like,
- 22:52when can I show up and record a segment with you for our TV
- 22:55show? Because Yum.
- 22:58I love sprinkles so I lean heavily into the sprinkles.
- 23:01And you know what? I'll join you and have one with
- 23:03you. Let's put that back on our
- 23:05radar. Yes, yes.
- 23:07You don't know what they are. Look them up.
- 23:08Yes. OK, great.
- 23:10So we're going to take a quick break and come back with some
- 23:13organizational tips for you, at least one good one.
- 23:20We are back and we're we're we're going to talk about an
- 23:23organizational tip. I actually saw this.
- 23:26Are we going to do this one, the one I saw and sent to you and
- 23:28ask you what you thought called house mapping.
- 23:32And house mapping is about moving things around to I guess
- 23:37aid you and being more organized or prevent you from being less
- 23:40organized. This is something that you have
- 23:43an opinion about. Well, first of all, I always
- 23:47like to say this. Whatever it takes to get someone
- 23:50organized, I'm 100% on board with.
- 23:54I never say what anybody is doing is negative or not working
- 23:59because everybody's different. And if it works for you IA 100%
- 24:04think you should do it. I did read about this and it
- 24:08said house mapping is a single simple decluttering method that
- 24:13you might already be doing. This is just where you simply
- 24:16map out the problem areas in your home, identify where
- 24:19clutter builds up most, and create systems that make
- 24:22cleaning easier to maintain. That was the gist of it.
- 24:26And so for instance, if you're always throwing laundry in this
- 24:30one corner of the bedroom, instead of doing that, go get a
- 24:34hamper and put it in that corner.
- 24:36Or go get a tree and put it in that corner.
- 24:40Like something more decorative so you're not throwing it on the
- 24:44floor and you're putting it in the laundry every room.
- 24:46So like I said, I mean, I personally just my philosophy is
- 24:52everything just needs a home and it will stay organized.
- 24:57But if this is something where it's more to me, this is
- 25:00something more about habits. You're in the habit of doing
- 25:06something and so you're trying to break that habit.
- 25:09And how can you break it? Well, put a laundry basket in
- 25:13that corner instead of throwing the clothes on the, on the
- 25:17floor. And I do think that would work
- 25:21for some people. I really do.
- 25:22I think you're, once you break those habits, then you retrain
- 25:27your brain and you think about it before you do it.
- 25:31So, oh, I'm not going to do that because now I have a hamper
- 25:34there. So I I I definitely think it's
- 25:38worth a try for sure. It makes all the sense in the
- 25:43world to apply it to the way you think.
- 25:45Because in my own bathroom, I had this little narrow area and
- 25:50you said slide a hamper in there.
- 25:52And then whenever that hamper is not there, like maybe we've
- 25:55rolled it down the hallway to do the laundry, it only takes about
- 25:595 minutes before I see a pile of clothes in the exact spot where
- 26:02the hamper was. Nobody's saying, oh wait, the
- 26:05hamper's down the hall. Let me go ahead and walk down
- 26:07the hall. It's just that's the spot our
- 26:10brains are going to the spot. My husband moved the garbage can
- 26:13in the kitchen across the room as a permanent home.
- 26:18And I'm telling you, it is making me bonkers.
- 26:22I have. I'm wondering, will I ever not
- 26:24have to go zigzag to find the garbage can?
- 26:26Oh. My God, that's so.
- 26:27Funny. So I think you know,
- 26:29geographically we're we're conditioned, but it is all about
- 26:33habits like you just. Said right, right.
- 26:35But like I said, try it. It doesn't hurt.
- 26:39Yeah, it doesn't. Try thinking about it if you
- 26:42have a place where you know the mail is always getting dropped
- 26:45keys, whatever. Maybe.
- 26:46A basket or an organizer right in that spot.
- 26:49So it's about some geography. All right, well, that that about
- 26:55does it for this episode. So we talked a lot about not
- 27:00letting perfection get in the way of you being good.
- 27:04I know there are some people out there who would say the
- 27:07opposite, but hey, that's their podcast.
- 27:10You can go listen to you for us, we're like, you do your best and
- 27:13we're happy to hear you. We always love it.
- 27:16If you could share a podcast with just one girlfriend, one
- 27:19sister, one cousin, anyone you can think of.
- 27:22And until we meet again, remember you can Add all the
- 27:26broccoli you want to your diet, but if you think you can't add
- 27:30that one piece of bacon, that idea, you can let it go.
- 27:33And don't look back.