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O'Brien & Doug Ep179 [January 11, 2024 It's A Wonderul Tangent-Filled Life!] · O'Brien & Doug

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SPEAKER_03: Well I was trying to I don't know I was trying to think of a way to I don't know I was just It was really funny though Welcome to the O'Brien Doug Podcast I'm O'Brien I'm Doug Hello everybody It is episode 179 179 Number nine number nine number nine uh nobody gets that well I shouldn't say nobody gets that Beatles fans get that yeah number nine number nine number nine um worst Beatles song ever I would they would say that too with that I would hope so yeah I would hope so um what was I gonna say uh so you heard from Cousin Larry Cousin Larry the uh voice of our podcast now yes the official official voice of where is cousin Larry today he is in Fort Myers Florida attending Red Sox Fantasy Camp.
1:40
SPEAKER_03: Uh here is a because you came in thinking you were going to surprise me with that.
1:45
SPEAKER_03: And he already told you.
1:46
SPEAKER_03: He well yeah kind of um because he said he sent me well actually he said uh listening to the podcast because we said some some nice things about him because I mean he did a great job on the on the on the voiceovers.
2:04
SPEAKER_03: Uh he said listening to the podcast today, thank you guys for the kind words.
2:07
SPEAKER_03: I had a blast making them and definitely want to do some more.
2:09
SPEAKER_03: I will be in Fort Myers, Florida next week attending Red Sox Fantasy Camp.
2:13
SPEAKER_03: Was thinking maybe I could record a liner from there if I could get a former Sox to chime in, that might be cool, but not sure if that's possible.
2:22
SPEAKER_09: I don't know, man.
2:23
SPEAKER_09: That'd be cool.
2:24
SPEAKER_09: Wouldn't it be cool?
2:24
SPEAKER_09: It'll be so sweet.
2:25
SPEAKER_09: It's like, hey Well, he sent me a picture of his locker.
2:29
SPEAKER_09: Dude, they hook you up.
2:31
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
2:32
SPEAKER_09: He's got his own like uniform with his name on it, number.
2:36
SPEAKER_03: It's pretty impressive that he was able to get there.
2:41
SPEAKER_03: I know.
2:41
SPEAKER_03: You know, I mean that's because that's a that's a big thing.
2:44
SPEAKER_09: It is a big thing.
2:44
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
2:45
SPEAKER_09: I mean, you're I mean you're hanging out with Red Sox legends.
2:49
SPEAKER_09: Right.
2:50
SPEAKER_09: You know what I mean?
2:50
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
2:51
SPEAKER_09: So I mean it's it's pretty impressive.
2:53
SPEAKER_09: I didn't even know I mean I've always known that he's been a he's always been a huge Red Sox.
2:59
SPEAKER_03: Red Sox fan, yeah, yeah.
3:00
SPEAKER_09: So um But he's been he's been living the dream, man.
3:04
SPEAKER_09: It's been awesome.
3:05
SPEAKER_03: So I just want to get that out of the way.
3:07
SPEAKER_03: So so Larry, have a blast.
3:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, man.
3:10
SPEAKER_03: Um enjoy.
3:11
SPEAKER_03: If you can't send us liners, it's okay.
3:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, not a big deal.
3:15
SPEAKER_03: Enjoy enjoy yourself.
3:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, just having fun, man.
3:18
SPEAKER_03: Um I took a trip Saturday, um, had to take my car down to well this was a this was a this was a cool but long uh trip.
3:31
SPEAKER_03: And here's here's why.
3:33
SPEAKER_03: So my car needed to go down to the dealer to have because when I bought the car, I I bought the undercoating.
3:40
SPEAKER_03: You know, that the the they put an undercoating on that why are you laughing?
3:45
SPEAKER_09: Because it sounds so funny.
3:46
SPEAKER_09: I bought undercoating.
3:48
SPEAKER_09: Oh.
3:49
SPEAKER_03: Well, it's a thing that they put on there that protects the You know what else I bought?
3:53
SPEAKER_03: The engine.
3:54
SPEAKER_03: You know what else?
3:55
SPEAKER_03: I think probably I was hoodwinked into the undercoating.
3:58
SPEAKER_03: They probably make it sound like it's they probably make it sound really awesome.
4:03
SPEAKER_09: All we do is spray some paint down there.
4:07
SPEAKER_03: Probably.
4:08
SPEAKER_03: But it's gotta sit for 24 hours.
4:10
SPEAKER_09: According to that, well, it's gotta dry.
4:11
SPEAKER_03: So anyway, our appointment was Monday, but I some guy with a friggin' kids.
4:16
SPEAKER_03: I was driving down Saturday because Eli had a game in East Machayas.
4:24
SPEAKER_03: Right?
4:25
SPEAKER_03: So um my wife is like, Are you gonna take any of the kids?
4:30
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, No.
4:32
unknown: Nah.
4:33
SPEAKER_03: Nope.
4:33
SPEAKER_03: Nah, not gonna happen.
4:35
SPEAKER_03: Um, so she's like, you know, if you leave at uh eight or nine, uh, you could get there and then half hour at the dealership and then and then head to the game.
4:43
SPEAKER_03: I said, but if I left at seven, I could go to Bull Moose.
4:46
SPEAKER_01: Of course.
4:48
SPEAKER_03: So I did.
4:49
SPEAKER_03: And I didn't get much at Bull Moose.
4:52
SPEAKER_03: Bull Moose had I don't know when the last time you was there, you were there.
4:55
SPEAKER_03: Uh was September when I went to see uh Henry Rowland.
5:00
SPEAKER_03: Stacks are dwindling, dude.
5:01
SPEAKER_03: The they've got a couple of shelves that are just empty.
5:04
SPEAKER_03: You know the you know how they used to have the the in and they and the rock category, rock pop category was two or three um rows.
5:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
5:14
SPEAKER_03: It's down to like maybe, maybe two.
5:16
SPEAKER_09: Well, every time I go there, everybody I'm looking for, they don't have any.
5:20
SPEAKER_03: I know, and the same thing happened to me.
5:21
SPEAKER_03: I picked up a couple, uh, a couple of and I want to um I picked up one of my favorite country artists.
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SPEAKER_03: Um one of his first albums back in 2006.
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SPEAKER_03: This is Wade Bowen.
5:33
SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah, yeah.
5:34
SPEAKER_03: Lost Hotel.
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SPEAKER_03: Great, great album.
5:37
SPEAKER_09: If it's lost, how'd they find it?
5:39
SPEAKER_09: How do you go to there to stay?
5:40
SPEAKER_03: GPS.
5:41
SPEAKER_09: But it's lost.
5:42
SPEAKER_09: Even GPS can't find it.
5:44
SPEAKER_03: No, they found it.
5:45
SPEAKER_03: GPS found it, and so it should be now you're lost with the hotel.
5:49
SPEAKER_03: So oh that's kind of creepy.
5:52
SPEAKER_03: I just made that up.
5:53
SPEAKER_03: So like the shining.
5:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, kind of.
5:55
SPEAKER_03: So anyway, um, great album.
5:57
SPEAKER_03: And I bought a a couple other ones too.
5:59
SPEAKER_03: Um, but so anyway, I drove down to Bangor, and you saw the car that's in my driveway.
6:06
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I was a little confused at first, and then I went, oh yeah.
6:09
SPEAKER_03: It's a loner, right?
6:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
6:10
SPEAKER_03: But I drove two and a half hours to Bangor, did my thing, got with the dealership, thinking this was great, you know, thinking I I'd have plenty of time to spend at Bull Moose.
6:23
SPEAKER_03: But even though I left at 7 a.m., I get there at like 9 30, I had to run a couple errands f for the boss lady.
6:30
SPEAKER_03: Right.
6:31
SPEAKER_03: And so I went to the bookstore and then I went to Bull Moose and I'm looking at Bull Moose, and by the time I got there and I was looking, it was almost 11 o'clock.
6:44
SPEAKER_03: And I had to get to my boy's game, which was two hours away.
6:49
SPEAKER_03: So I looked for about a half an hour and you know, found a few things, but was just kind of disappointed.
6:55
SPEAKER_03: So I was excited about like a solo trip, and I did.
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SPEAKER_03: I listened to our podcast on the way down, I listened to a couple other things on the way down.
7:01
SPEAKER_03: I can't do that with my kids in the car.
7:03
SPEAKER_03: No, not the our podcast, our podcast is fine, but the other things I was listening to, you know, uh and the music I had cranked, you know, things like that.
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SPEAKER_03: I can't do that with my kids or my family in the car.
7:13
SPEAKER_03: Right.
7:13
SPEAKER_03: So I was excited about that.
7:14
SPEAKER_03: You're such a drag.
7:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
7:17
SPEAKER_03: What was I thinking?
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SPEAKER_02: If I could do it all over again, I'd do it all over again.
7:24
SPEAKER_03: But then it took me uh an hour and forty-five fifty minutes to get to his game, and I missed the first quarter.
7:30
SPEAKER_03: Or for yeah, the first period.
7:32
SPEAKER_03: I still miss part of the game.
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SPEAKER_03: It started at 1.30.
7:34
SPEAKER_03: And then and then I was like, uh, all right, so you want to go back with me or you want to go back on the bus?
7:41
SPEAKER_03: I'll go back on the bus.
7:43
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
7:44
SPEAKER_03: What?
7:46
SPEAKER_03: It's like, well, um my truck's at the you know, at the high school.
7:50
SPEAKER_03: I can drop you off at your truck.
7:52
SPEAKER_03: He's like, no, all my stuff's on the bus.
7:54
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
7:55
SPEAKER_03: He just wanted to ride back on the bus.
7:57
SPEAKER_02: Good job, buddy.
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SPEAKER_02: Be with the boys, man.
8:00
SPEAKER_02: So I drove another two hours.
8:01
SPEAKER_03: Wait, were the cheerleaders on the bus too?
8:03
SPEAKER_03: No, no, no.
8:04
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
8:04
SPEAKER_03: I drove back another two hours.
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SPEAKER_03: Uh well, three hours, but two hours to Holton, but it was a different way.
8:10
SPEAKER_03: So I went from East M Chayas back to Holton.
8:13
SPEAKER_09: Or did you go up uh Route one?
8:15
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, that's fun.
8:18
SPEAKER_09: That's a that's like a road course.
8:20
SPEAKER_03: I didn't think it was ever going to end.
8:22
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: It's uh Jack and I used to do that uh when we were uh Because you went to Washington County for the because we were developing D E T L C and one Sunday a month we would go down there and back, and it was the longest trip ever because it was all like brrrrring I don't get car sick.
8:42
SPEAKER_03: Right.
8:42
SPEAKER_09: Because it's all twisty turny heels and it's insane.
8:46
SPEAKER_09: Whoever developed that, you know, the first people to come up with that road drunk, right, right.
8:53
SPEAKER_03: Or just weren't thinking.
8:54
SPEAKER_02: Just like, hey, let's go this way, let's go this way.
8:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
8:57
SPEAKER_03: So uh, but all in all, that was uh that was three that was all day of driving.
9:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
9:02
SPEAKER_03: You know, I mean it was uh I did get to go to Bull Moose, but again, the Wade Bowen was really the one that I was was uh happy to get.
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SPEAKER_03: The other ones I got were okay.
9:12
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I I got a James Taylor album that I don't have.
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SPEAKER_03: Right.
9:15
SPEAKER_03: I got um uh have you ever heard of this lady?
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SPEAKER_03: Um Eva Cassidy?
9:21
SPEAKER_03: No.
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SPEAKER_03: Beautiful voice.
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SPEAKER_03: She's not with us anymore.
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SPEAKER_03: Um she she and a lot of her music came out uh after her death.
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SPEAKER_03: She had recorded a bunch of stuff, and um just I wish I could we should spend some time on the story of Eva Cassidy because I think that our special wall of tunes today.
9:41
SPEAKER_03: You think so?
9:42
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, why not?
9:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we could.
9:44
SPEAKER_03: I didn't do any research about it, but we could try.
9:46
SPEAKER_09: Well, why not?
9:47
SPEAKER_09: We could do that.
9:48
SPEAKER_09: When have we ever done research?
9:51
SPEAKER_09: What is wrong with you?
9:53
SPEAKER_03: This is this is true.
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SPEAKER_03: Research.
9:55
SPEAKER_03: This is true.
9:56
SPEAKER_03: I'll uh taking notes, go do research.
9:58
SPEAKER_03: Maybe I'll look her up on uh Wikipedia or something and we can talk about that.
10:03
SPEAKER_03: I think I put that in my iTunes already.
10:07
SPEAKER_03: Oh no, it's in here.
10:09
SPEAKER_03: Let me I should make sure.
10:10
SPEAKER_03: We'll we'll we'll get to that when we go on.
10:13
SPEAKER_03: So I got that.
10:14
SPEAKER_03: We'll cross that bridge when we get there.
10:15
SPEAKER_03: And uh and another one, and but no rock.
10:18
SPEAKER_03: I didn't get any rock.
10:20
SPEAKER_03: Um I looked for like I was gonna get um extreme six on CD.
10:25
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
10:25
SPEAKER_03: Instead of you know, because I have it already, but wanted to get physical copy.
10:28
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
10:29
SPEAKER_03: I was gonna they hadn't they had pornograffiti, that's all they had.
10:33
SPEAKER_03: I was gonna get the new winger, thinking that it's been out now for a year.
10:38
SPEAKER_09: Well, you you went there last time looking for a winger and they didn't have any, yeah.
10:42
SPEAKER_03: Any at all.
10:43
SPEAKER_03: So, you know, I was like, and then I was looking for some other things too, and it's just you know I'm gonna go.
10:48
SPEAKER_09: I've given up to the point where I don't even bother with the CDs, I just go to the vinyl.
10:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
10:54
SPEAKER_09: And even the vinyl's not that selective.
10:56
SPEAKER_09: It's not.
10:56
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, it's just kind of it's kind of sad.
10:58
SPEAKER_09: I don't know what's going on with that place.
10:59
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't know.
11:00
SPEAKER_03: They need to up their game.
11:01
SPEAKER_03: Maybe people are just keeping their because a lot of those are are pre-owned.
11:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
11:06
SPEAKER_03: Maybe they're just keeping their CDs.
11:08
SPEAKER_09: Maybe, I don't know.
11:08
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
11:09
SPEAKER_09: Still sad.
11:10
SPEAKER_09: I mean, you get some new stuff in once in a while, guys.
11:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
11:12
SPEAKER_09: I mean, come on, gee whiz.
11:14
SPEAKER_09: Right.
11:15
SPEAKER_09: There's no more music stores.
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SPEAKER_09: No bookstores, there's no music stores.
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SPEAKER_03: That's another thing I did when I was when I was in the East Machias at my kids' game, uh, during halftime, I was I Googled um record stores or music stores in Machias, East Machias, because I was gonna try and stop at one.
11:31
SPEAKER_03: Because it was the middle of the afternoon when his game got done.
11:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
11:34
SPEAKER_03: You know, um, so I was gonna try and stop it, but they didn't have anything.
11:38
SPEAKER_03: There was no there's no record stores.
11:40
SPEAKER_03: I mean, there are, but there's none around here.
11:42
SPEAKER_03: So I was pretty bumped.
11:44
SPEAKER_03: But anyway.
11:45
SPEAKER_03: It's sad.
11:46
SPEAKER_03: It is sad.
11:46
SPEAKER_03: Um I should just tell you this.
11:49
SPEAKER_03: So I don't want to hear it.
11:51
SPEAKER_03: Um let's see.
11:53
SPEAKER_03: I haven't even looked at this yet.
11:55
SPEAKER_03: Uh sorry, Cousin Larry.
11:57
SPEAKER_03: Cousin Larry sent me um this saying seems like a more respectable publication than Rolling Stone.
12:03
SPEAKER_09: Oh.
12:04
SPEAKER_09: Who is it?
12:05
SPEAKER_09: Guitar World.
12:05
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
12:06
SPEAKER_03: Guitar World ranked the um greatest guitarists of all time.
12:11
SPEAKER_09: Ah, well, there we go.
12:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
12:13
SPEAKER_03: So let's see if we agree with any of these.
12:17
SPEAKER_03: How many are there?
12:18
SPEAKER_03: Well, this one has 45.
12:20
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
12:20
SPEAKER_03: Not the 250 that uh Rolling Stone had.
12:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, Rolling Stone needs uh Let's not do all f all 45 of these.
12:27
SPEAKER_03: Uh well, we'll just name them.
12:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
12:30
SPEAKER_03: 45, Bow Diddley.
12:32
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
12:32
SPEAKER_03: But only because of his contribution, he created that Bo Diddley beat.
12:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
12:37
SPEAKER_03: Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun.
12:40
SPEAKER_03: I shouldn't say he created it, but he made it popular.
12:44
SPEAKER_03: Right.
12:44
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
12:44
SPEAKER_03: His name is synonymous with the Bo Diddley rhythm.
12:47
SPEAKER_03: Johnny Ramon.
12:51
SPEAKER_09: I'm not sure I'd put him in a top 45, but I don't think I would either.
12:54
SPEAKER_09: You know.
12:55
SPEAKER_09: Whatever.
12:56
SPEAKER_09: You know.
12:56
SPEAKER_03: Jerry Garcia.
12:59
SPEAKER_09: Invent inventivess.
13:02
SPEAKER_03: You have to, because we and and and keep in mind, we don't listen to Grateful Dead.
13:07
SPEAKER_09: No.
13:08
SPEAKER_03: So he is a great guitar player.
13:11
SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah, I have no doubt about that.
13:13
SPEAKER_03: Um, but I can't so I really can't say anything.
13:16
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
13:17
SPEAKER_03: I would put Jerry Garcia on there before I would put Joan Jett.
13:20
SPEAKER_03: No offense to Joan Jett.
13:22
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
13:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
13:23
SPEAKER_03: But as as a guitar player, Willie Nelson.
13:28
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
13:31
SPEAKER_09: I mean he's not known for it.
13:32
SPEAKER_03: Joni Mitchell, 41.
13:34
SPEAKER_03: She's not as high as she was on the other list.
13:36
SPEAKER_03: No, I don't think.
13:38
SPEAKER_03: She was inventive.
13:39
SPEAKER_03: Buddy guy.
13:41
SPEAKER_03: Well, yeah, buddy guy.
13:43
SPEAKER_03: Obviously.
13:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
13:44
SPEAKER_03: Tom Morello.
13:47
SPEAKER_03: Number 39.
13:48
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
13:48
SPEAKER_03: Angus Young is number 38.
13:51
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
13:52
SPEAKER_03: Uh Brian May of Queen, number 37.
13:55
SPEAKER_09: That's kind of low for him.
13:56
SPEAKER_09: I think low.
13:57
SPEAKER_09: I think that's low.
13:58
SPEAKER_09: Yep.
13:58
SPEAKER_09: He should be at least top 20.
13:59
SPEAKER_03: Robbie Krieger of the Doors, number 36.
14:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean I would put Rob uh Brian May ahead of Robbie Krieger.
14:07
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah, absolutely.
14:08
SPEAKER_09: But but I mean, you know, if you think about it, I mean Robbie Krieger.
14:12
SPEAKER_09: I mean Are there any memorable riffs?
14:16
SPEAKER_09: Guitar riffs from the doors?
14:17
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah.
14:18
SPEAKER_09: You think so?
14:18
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah, I do.
14:19
SPEAKER_09: I really don't.
14:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I do.
14:21
SPEAKER_03: Um Love uh Love Me Two Times.
14:24
SPEAKER_03: Um uh LA Woman.
14:27
SPEAKER_03: Um Yeah, there's memorable riffs.
14:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but uh you're right though.
14:33
SPEAKER_03: There's nothing there's nothing like signature that you think is running.
14:40
SPEAKER_03: There's nothing groundbreaking.
14:41
SPEAKER_03: Right.
14:42
SPEAKER_03: Uh the edge, just out of just out of the way he plays, I think, is probably Yeah, because he's got his own his own style.
14:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
14:50
SPEAKER_03: He's number 35.
14:52
SPEAKER_03: Uh Billy Gibbons, Z Z Top, number 34.
14:55
SPEAKER_09: That's low.
14:56
SPEAKER_03: I think so too, because I mean he was Jimi Hendrix's favorite guitar player.
14:59
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he should be way up there, right?
15:01
SPEAKER_03: Scotty Moore, Elvis Presley.
15:03
SPEAKER_03: Elvis Presley Presley.
15:04
SPEAKER_03: Number 33.
15:05
SPEAKER_03: Muddy Waters, number 32.
15:08
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
15:08
SPEAKER_03: Uh Tom Petty and Mike Campbell.
15:11
SPEAKER_03: Both of them.
15:12
SPEAKER_09: Together?
15:13
SPEAKER_03: Like, apparently.
15:14
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
15:14
SPEAKER_09: That's kind of mean.
15:16
SPEAKER_03: That's number 31.
15:18
SPEAKER_03: Uh Frank Zappa, number 30.
15:19
SPEAKER_03: Now, was Frank Zappa even on the other list?
15:21
SPEAKER_03: He might have been.
15:22
SPEAKER_09: He might have been, but he was like in the triple digits.
15:26
SPEAKER_03: Frank Zappa's a genius.
15:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
15:27
SPEAKER_03: As far as guitar playing.
15:28
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
15:29
SPEAKER_03: Neil Young.
15:30
SPEAKER_09: Why is Neil Young higher than Frank Zappa?
15:33
unknown: I don't know.
15:34
SPEAKER_03: God, I don't know about these.
15:35
SPEAKER_03: Neil Young is 29.
15:36
SPEAKER_03: Uh Dave Gilmore of Pink Florida is 28.
15:39
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
15:39
SPEAKER_03: Joe Perry of Aerosmith.
15:41
SPEAKER_03: All right.
15:42
SPEAKER_03: Slash is number 26.
15:45
SPEAKER_03: Buddy Holly's number 25.
15:47
SPEAKER_03: Dick Dale, surf guitar hero.
15:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
15:50
SPEAKER_03: He's number 24.
15:51
SPEAKER_03: Freddie King.
15:52
SPEAKER_03: There you go.
15:53
SPEAKER_03: Number 23.
15:54
SPEAKER_03: There you go.
15:55
SPEAKER_03: Kirk Cobain.
15:56
SPEAKER_03: Number 22.
15:59
SPEAKER_03: As a guitar player, I don't know.
16:01
SPEAKER_03: As a as an inventive, you know, writer of riffs and songwriter.
16:08
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
16:09
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, if you take that into account.
16:10
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
16:10
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
16:11
SPEAKER_03: You know?
16:11
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
16:12
SPEAKER_03: John Lennon, number 21.
16:16
SPEAKER_03: I don't know how to put John Lennon on there.
16:18
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
16:18
SPEAKER_03: I thought he'd be way lower.
16:20
SPEAKER_03: Uh greatest guitarists is what this is.
16:24
SPEAKER_03: George Harrison.
16:26
SPEAKER_03: At least he's higher than John Lennon.
16:27
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
16:29
SPEAKER_03: George Harrison was a great guitar player.
16:33
SPEAKER_03: And you could pick him out of a crowd.
16:35
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
16:36
SPEAKER_03: Especially a solo, George Harrison solo.
16:38
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah.
16:38
SPEAKER_09: Everybody knows a George Harrison solo.
16:40
SPEAKER_03: Albert King, number 19.
16:43
SPEAKER_03: We just talked about him because I bought that double album.
16:45
SPEAKER_03: Right.
16:45
SPEAKER_03: Joe Walsh.
16:47
SPEAKER_03: Number 18.
16:51
SPEAKER_03: Maybe.
16:51
SPEAKER_03: Pete Townsend, number 17.
16:55
SPEAKER_03: As a composer, songwriter.
16:58
SPEAKER_03: Sure, yeah.
16:59
SPEAKER_03: Innovator.
17:00
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
17:00
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
17:01
SPEAKER_03: Steve Ray Vaughn, number 16.
17:03
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
17:03
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
17:04
SPEAKER_09: I think you should be higher about that.
17:05
SPEAKER_09: I think so too.
17:06
SPEAKER_03: Tony Iomi.
17:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
17:07
SPEAKER_03: Black Sabbath, number 15.
17:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
17:09
SPEAKER_03: Prince, number 14.
17:10
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
17:11
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
17:11
SPEAKER_03: Should be should be higher.
17:12
SPEAKER_03: I'm not gonna argue with that.
17:14
SPEAKER_03: Sammy Ratikanen.
17:16
SPEAKER_03: No idea who that is.
17:17
SPEAKER_03: He's a Finnish guitarist known for his work in the German metal band Necrophagist.
17:23
SPEAKER_09: Oh.
17:24
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
17:25
SPEAKER_03: I'm not sure why he's number 13.
17:26
SPEAKER_09: How did he beat all these other guys out?
17:28
SPEAKER_09: I uh uh again, I don't know.
17:30
SPEAKER_03: Jimmy Vivino?
17:32
SPEAKER_03: Who?
17:33
SPEAKER_03: Jimmy Vivino, uh, who is a who was the band leader for I want to say one of the late night shows.
17:46
SPEAKER_03: But it you know, but that was one only one gig.
17:49
SPEAKER_03: I mean he's he's been around for a long time.
17:50
SPEAKER_09: I've never heard of him.
17:51
SPEAKER_03: Uh I I don't know that I would put him as one of the best guitarists.
17:55
SPEAKER_03: Norman Brown, uh, 1970 uh actually he's released several albums.
18:00
SPEAKER_03: He's a jazz guitarist and singer.
18:02
SPEAKER_03: Never heard of him.
18:03
SPEAKER_09: No.
18:04
SPEAKER_03: That doesn't mean I listen to a lot of jazz.
18:06
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, that doesn't mean anything.
18:07
SPEAKER_09: Doesn't mean anything, no.
18:09
SPEAKER_03: Dwayne Allman.
18:10
SPEAKER_03: Here we're we're in the top 10 now.
18:11
SPEAKER_03: Dwayne Allman's number 10.
18:13
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
18:14
SPEAKER_03: Um I don't know that I'd put Dwayne Allman in in the top ten.
18:20
SPEAKER_09: Not sure I would either.
18:22
SPEAKER_03: Uh Carlos Santana.
18:24
SPEAKER_03: Number nine.
18:26
SPEAKER_09: Uh I'm not sure he's top ten.
18:28
SPEAKER_03: I'd put him in top 20.
18:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
18:29
SPEAKER_03: Maybe top 25.
18:30
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
18:31
SPEAKER_03: BB King.
18:33
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
18:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
18:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
18:35
SPEAKER_03: Um Jeff Beck, I would put him at number one.
18:38
SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry.
18:38
SPEAKER_09: No, there you go.
18:39
SPEAKER_03: I would put him at number one.
18:42
SPEAKER_03: Uh, but that might be me.
18:44
SPEAKER_03: No, he's at number seven on here.
18:46
SPEAKER_03: Jimmy Page is number six.
18:48
SPEAKER_03: Keith Richards is number five.
18:50
SPEAKER_03: Chuck Barry number four.
18:51
SPEAKER_09: Why okay.
18:53
SPEAKER_09: Nothing against Chuck Barry.
18:55
SPEAKER_09: But just because he kind of invented rock and roll guitar, is that why he's number four?
19:01
SPEAKER_03: I'm assuming.
19:02
SPEAKER_09: Because everything sounded the same.
19:04
SPEAKER_03: Well, everything sounds the same always anyway.
19:07
SPEAKER_03: I know, but I know what you're saying.
19:09
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying.
19:10
SPEAKER_03: He did the same thing over and over and over again.
19:11
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
19:12
SPEAKER_03: Uh well, you could say the same for uh Keith Richards.
19:16
SPEAKER_09: Well, yeah, I would.
19:18
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
19:19
SPEAKER_09: And is young.
19:20
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you know.
19:20
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
19:21
SPEAKER_03: Number three, Eddie Van Halen.
19:23
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
19:24
SPEAKER_03: I'm curious now to see who number two.
19:26
SPEAKER_03: Who do you think number two and number one are?
19:28
SPEAKER_03: Jimi Hendrix has got to be there.
19:29
SPEAKER_09: Well, Hendrix's gotta be there.
19:30
SPEAKER_03: Because he hasn't been mentioned yet.
19:32
SPEAKER_09: Hendrix and oh yeah.
19:34
SPEAKER_09: Hendrix and Clapton, they gotta be there.
19:36
SPEAKER_03: Clapton is number two.
19:38
SPEAKER_09: Clapton is number two, there we go.
19:39
SPEAKER_09: Uh and number one, Jimi Hendrix.
19:41
SPEAKER_03: There he is.
19:42
SPEAKER_03: Now, I agree with most of that list.
19:47
SPEAKER_03: Uh well, more so with this list than the Rolling Stone list.
19:50
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.
19:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
19:52
SPEAKER_03: But then I saw I read an article on um with Pete Townsend, an interview with Pete Townsend, and he was saying that most guitarists these days, and this is true, as a guitarist, I can tell you, um, most guitarists these days are intimidated by the um shredders on Instagram.
20:13
SPEAKER_03: There are guitar players that sit in their bedrooms and can play circles around any of the people on this list.
20:20
SPEAKER_03: Like technically.
20:22
SPEAKER_09: I mean there Well, there's there's There's a difference between being a technically good guitar player and then being a musically good guitar player.
20:32
SPEAKER_03: Right, I get that.
20:34
SPEAKER_09: So what you're saying is if a guy I mean, if you're just if you're if you're not if you're not doing anything, you're just putting it on Instagram, then you're kind of really wasting your talent.
20:45
SPEAKER_03: Well, uh I that's just one of the things that they do.
20:50
SPEAKER_09: I I understand that, but I mean, if you're if you're this amazing shredder, why why do we only see you on Instagram?
21:00
SPEAKER_09: But I mean there's a there are I mean the Instagram famous, ooh.
21:04
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, but they're you're an influencer, all right.
21:06
SPEAKER_03: There are opportunities that come from that.
21:08
SPEAKER_03: And they do they and they do play with bands.
21:11
SPEAKER_03: I mean I've seen like footage of them jamming with bands, so they can play, and I would imagine that they do play out.
21:18
SPEAKER_09: Well, I would hope so.
21:19
SPEAKER_03: But I think it's and and to a degree I think he's right, but like the Who, he said, the Who just completed a tour of the UK.
21:29
SPEAKER_03: He says, and I do the same thing I've always done, try not to be cliche.
21:34
SPEAKER_03: You know, I try and learn pretty cool things before, you know, when I rehearse early in the day, you know, that I'm gonna try that night, and go out on stage and and try 'em.
21:44
SPEAKER_03: And and try not to make everything sound the same.
21:47
SPEAKER_03: You know, like a Chuck Berry song.
21:48
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
21:49
SPEAKER_03: Whereas these shredders, you know, they they are so technically advanced uh compared to a lot of these people.
22:00
SPEAKER_03: But you're right though.
22:02
SPEAKER_03: There is a thing to be said for I think Joko calls it feel.
22:08
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
22:09
SPEAKER_09: You don't have feel.
22:10
SPEAKER_09: You if you can just play notes, big deal.
22:12
SPEAKER_03: Feel and and what was it?
22:14
SPEAKER_03: He called it feel or touch.
22:15
SPEAKER_03: I think it was touch.
22:16
SPEAKER_03: Because Joko complimented me a while back, not too long ago.
22:20
SPEAKER_03: I think I had played something and shared it with the group or something.
22:25
SPEAKER_03: I don't remember what it was.
22:27
SPEAKER_03: But he said I've always loved your touch.
22:32
SPEAKER_03: He didn't say it like that because that's just creepy.
22:34
SPEAKER_03: I love your touch.
22:35
SPEAKER_03: You've always had you've always had really good pee pee touch.
22:41
SPEAKER_03: Let's see.
22:46
SPEAKER_09: Still one of the funniest things ever to come out of that guy.
22:49
SPEAKER_03: You have to tell what that is.
22:50
SPEAKER_09: I don't even remember the whole thing.
22:52
SPEAKER_09: I don't because it was so early in the morning.
22:56
SPEAKER_09: Or late at night.
22:57
SPEAKER_09: I can't even remember.
23:01
SPEAKER_09: I I don't rem we were in a hotel.
23:03
SPEAKER_09: That's all I know.
23:04
SPEAKER_03: That makes it worse.
23:07
SPEAKER_02: I can't remember what we're doing.
23:08
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
23:09
SPEAKER_02: I don't remember what we were doing either.
23:10
SPEAKER_09: But he said he said one one pee pee touch.
23:16
SPEAKER_09: So just it's just we we laughed like 10 minutes ago.
23:21
SPEAKER_03: Oh my word.
23:22
SPEAKER_09: Anyway.
23:22
SPEAKER_03: And anyway, he used it for his fantasy football team.
23:25
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you did.
23:25
SPEAKER_03: That's what he called it, one pee pee touch.
23:27
SPEAKER_03: Anyway.
23:27
SPEAKER_03: Um but no, I'm not a fantastically technical talented player, but I can feel.
23:36
SPEAKER_03: You know, I mean I I I have good touch, according to Joko.
23:40
SPEAKER_09: You know?
23:40
SPEAKER_09: Well, I mean, I think that I think that I think that's sometimes more sometimes is more important.
23:45
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, it's more important than that.
23:47
SPEAKER_09: I mean, you know, because if you want to listen to music, you want to feel something.
23:49
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
23:50
SPEAKER_09: I don't want to just listen to notes played.
23:51
SPEAKER_03: Look at B.B.
23:52
SPEAKER_03: King.
23:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
23:53
SPEAKER_03: B.B.
23:53
SPEAKER_03: King has a signature sound.
23:54
SPEAKER_03: You know it's B.B.
23:55
SPEAKER_03: King when he's playing.
23:56
SPEAKER_09: He he talks with that guitar.
23:57
SPEAKER_03: He talks with it.
23:58
SPEAKER_03: He doesn't and he's not uh technically proficient.
24:02
SPEAKER_03: I mean he's he is technically proficient, but not as advanced as a lot of these quote quote unquote shredders.
24:08
SPEAKER_03: He's no shredder.
24:08
SPEAKER_03: Right.
24:09
SPEAKER_09: But I mean he can he can run circles around them, you know uh emotionally.
24:14
SPEAKER_09: Right.
24:14
SPEAKER_09: You know what I mean?
24:15
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
24:15
SPEAKER_03: Yep, I agree.
24:16
SPEAKER_03: And and Clapton.
24:17
SPEAKER_03: Clapton, you can he can say more with one note than a whole flurry of notes.
24:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
24:22
SPEAKER_03: You know, that's why they call him slow hand.
24:24
SPEAKER_09: Yep.
24:25
SPEAKER_03: I agree that so you know.
24:26
SPEAKER_03: Um so yeah, that was cool of him to share that with us.
24:30
SPEAKER_03: Um Thank you, cousin Larry.
24:33
SPEAKER_03: And yeah.
24:35
SPEAKER_03: You're reading the Getty Lee book, right?
24:37
SPEAKER_03: Yes, I am.
24:38
SPEAKER_03: Um did you get to the part?
24:41
SPEAKER_03: Or actually is it on is it in the book?
24:43
SPEAKER_03: It must be in the book.
24:44
SPEAKER_03: Are you finished with the book?
24:45
SPEAKER_03: No.
24:46
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
24:46
SPEAKER_03: Because there's an interview uh where he he talks about how it was kind of disrespectful after Neil Pearl died.
24:58
SPEAKER_03: How many people pounced on them to replace it.
25:07
SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah.
25:09
SPEAKER_09: Other drummers.
25:09
SPEAKER_09: I have no idea if that's in the book or not.
25:11
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
25:12
SPEAKER_09: But uh yeah.
25:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I was reading an article and he says he says it was kind of um uh let's see.
25:21
SPEAKER_03: It was a very weird moment.
25:22
SPEAKER_03: My little black book got filled up really quickly.
25:26
SPEAKER_03: Um he was like, Whoa, that's just so inappropriate right now.
25:30
SPEAKER_03: Dude, wait two months, at least two months, if ever.
25:33
SPEAKER_03: And he says it still happens now that the clickbait freaks are out there talking about Alex and I getting a new drummer and starting Rush again.
25:41
SPEAKER_03: So there are still still people going, Hey, uh, I can play drums.
25:46
SPEAKER_03: You guys should do that.
25:47
SPEAKER_03: I'll play drums for you.
25:48
SPEAKER_09: Well, it's funny you mentioned this.
25:50
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
25:50
SPEAKER_09: Because I found an article from uh Metal Injection.
25:55
SPEAKER_09: Thirteen drummers that could drum for Rush.
25:58
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
25:59
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
26:00
SPEAKER_03: And who's the top five?
26:02
SPEAKER_09: Mike Mangini.
26:05
SPEAKER_03: I agree with that.
26:06
SPEAKER_03: He probably could.
26:10
SPEAKER_09: Uh Mike Portnoy, obviously.
26:12
SPEAKER_03: My buddy's back with Dream Theater, so he won't.
26:16
SPEAKER_09: Stewart Copeland.
26:19
SPEAKER_03: I can't see it.
26:20
SPEAKER_03: I can't see it.
26:21
SPEAKER_09: I can't I can, but I can't.
26:22
SPEAKER_03: Right.
26:23
SPEAKER_03: It's he's just a different kind of drummer.
26:24
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, yeah.
26:26
SPEAKER_09: But uh, yeah.
26:27
SPEAKER_09: But uh he was an influence on Neil Pierre.
26:31
SPEAKER_03: I can see that, actually.
26:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I can see that.
26:34
SPEAKER_03: I can see that.
26:35
SPEAKER_09: Uh Danny Carey.
26:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
26:40
SPEAKER_09: Very proggy.
26:41
SPEAKER_09: Medily, but proggy.
26:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
26:44
SPEAKER_09: Um Alexander.
26:47
SPEAKER_09: Who's that?
26:48
SPEAKER_09: I believe he played for the Primus.
26:54
SPEAKER_03: So far.
26:58
SPEAKER_03: I think Mike Man Gini and Pornroy.
27:00
SPEAKER_03: And Pornoy, yeah.
27:01
SPEAKER_03: Those are the two that Terry Bozio.
27:05
SPEAKER_03: I can see that.
27:06
SPEAKER_03: I could see that too.
27:07
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, because he played with Zappa.
27:09
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
27:09
SPEAKER_09: So if he can play with Zappa, he can play with this guy I've never heard of.
27:12
SPEAKER_09: Bobby Jarzobek, some back.
27:16
SPEAKER_09: Mm-hmm.
27:16
SPEAKER_09: Uh Fate's warning.
27:19
SPEAKER_09: Never heard of.
27:20
SPEAKER_09: Uh Marco Miniman.
27:23
SPEAKER_09: Never heard of him either.
27:24
SPEAKER_03: And you're a drummer, haven't you?
27:26
SPEAKER_03: I've never heard of him.
27:27
SPEAKER_09: Uh Gavin Harrison?
27:28
SPEAKER_09: Never heard.
27:29
SPEAKER_09: Oh, Crink uh King Crenson.
27:31
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
27:31
SPEAKER_09: So, uh Craig Blundell.
27:37
SPEAKER_09: Never heard of him.
27:39
SPEAKER_09: Brand Daylor.
27:43
SPEAKER_09: Can't say that.
27:44
SPEAKER_09: I can't see that either.
27:45
SPEAKER_09: I mean it's it's just kind of interesting how Thomas Lang.
27:49
SPEAKER_09: Never heard of him.
27:51
SPEAKER_09: Same.
27:52
SPEAKER_09: Matt Cameron.
27:53
SPEAKER_03: Ooh, Matt Cameron.
27:54
SPEAKER_09: Who actually played on Gety Lee's solo.
27:57
SPEAKER_09: So.
27:58
SPEAKER_03: Well, that doesn't mean that he could do Rush, though.
28:01
SPEAKER_09: No.
28:02
SPEAKER_09: But he But Matt Cameron.
28:03
SPEAKER_03: Who was he Soundgarden?
28:05
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, Soundgarden.
28:06
SPEAKER_09: That's what I thought.
28:07
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, so he he could do it.
28:09
SPEAKER_09: It'd be a little weird, but he could do it.
28:11
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
28:11
SPEAKER_09: But that's the list.
28:12
SPEAKER_09: Huh.
28:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Port Noy and Man Gini.
28:15
SPEAKER_03: They they'd be my tops.
28:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, me too.
28:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
28:17
SPEAKER_03: Do you think they'll get together and do some music?
28:20
SPEAKER_03: Alex and Getty?
28:21
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah.
28:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah?
28:22
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, they got music left in them.
28:25
SPEAKER_09: I I it'll be it won't it's not gonna be right away, but I bet I bet it's not gonna be Rush, is it?
28:30
SPEAKER_09: I think it will be.
28:31
SPEAKER_09: You do?
28:32
SPEAKER_09: I think well, I mean the two of them.
28:34
SPEAKER_09: It'll be Rush.
28:35
SPEAKER_03: I suppose it would have to be, wouldn't it?
28:36
unknown: Yeah.
28:37
SPEAKER_09: Because they were originally Rush anyway.
28:39
SPEAKER_03: That's true.
28:39
SPEAKER_03: Before Neil Pierre doors.
28:42
SPEAKER_03: I just think, I don't know, legacy thing.
28:44
SPEAKER_09: I just Well, I mean it won't I mean the drumming won't be the same.
28:48
SPEAKER_09: Right.
28:49
SPEAKER_09: Knowing it's not Neil, but it's still gonna be.
28:51
SPEAKER_03: How old is Sketty Lee?
28:53
SPEAKER_03: Seventy.
28:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so they're in their seventies.
28:55
SPEAKER_03: Why they just because they would do it?
28:57
SPEAKER_03: Why not?
28:58
SPEAKER_03: I mean, because they don't because they still can.
29:00
SPEAKER_09: They might as well, whether they still can, because there's gonna come point where they can't.
29:03
SPEAKER_03: Um speaking of that, uh one of the things that I listened to on my trip on on the weekend was Eddie Trunk.
29:12
SPEAKER_03: Um our good friend.
29:15
SPEAKER_03: And one of the things he kept saying, he had a he had a thing where people were calling in and talking their top five music releases of 2023.
29:24
SPEAKER_03: Um Winger made a bunch of people's lists.
29:27
SPEAKER_03: Excuse me.
29:27
SPEAKER_03: Extreme made most of their lists.
29:29
SPEAKER_03: Good.
29:30
SPEAKER_03: Number one, actually.
29:32
SPEAKER_03: Um but there was one that I wanted to preview because Eddie Trunk speaks very highly of it.
29:45
SPEAKER_03: And a lot of people had it on their list as the best one of the best albums of 2023.
29:51
SPEAKER_03: And if you say Taylor Swift, I'm gonna punch you.
29:53
SPEAKER_03: No, no, no, no, no, no.
29:55
SPEAKER_03: Uh I'm wondering if I can go to Amazon.
29:58
SPEAKER_09: Did you see uh they had the Golden Globes last night and she won absolutely nothing?
30:02
SPEAKER_03: Did you s did you see the um uh uh what's his name there?
30:07
SPEAKER_03: The host where he kind of insulted her and she didn't like it.
30:11
SPEAKER_03: Who's the host?
30:11
SPEAKER_03: She didn't like it very much.
30:12
SPEAKER_03: It was a it was a comedian, um Coy?
30:16
SPEAKER_03: Joe Coy.
30:18
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yes.
30:18
SPEAKER_09: He said, oh yeah, I remember I read about it.
30:21
SPEAKER_03: Talking about NFL, the difference between the Golden Globes and the NFL, is that the Golden Globes are not gonna take as many shots of Taylor Swift.
30:26
SPEAKER_03: Right.
30:27
SPEAKER_03: And then they took a shot of her and she was pissed.
30:30
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, she was that just fine.
30:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
30:34
SPEAKER_09: I'm a little uh Swiftied out, so yeah, me too.
30:38
SPEAKER_03: Um but I they they kept talking about this album, and I don't know if I can get uh samples uh on here or not.
30:48
SPEAKER_03: But the the new Rolling Stones album.
30:51
SPEAKER_03: Now we listened to like one track.
30:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and it wasn't it was okay, it sounded like a stone.
30:56
SPEAKER_03: It wasn't great, but it wasn't bad.
30:58
SPEAKER_03: But all of these listeners, and Eddie himself were saying these guys are in their 70s and eighties, and to put out that kind of quality work when they don't have to is commendable.
31:12
SPEAKER_03: And so I just kind of wanted to just put this on shuffle and uh eight.
32:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
32:13
SPEAKER_09: Steve Jordan is jumping for them now, right?
32:15
SPEAKER_09: He is, yeah.
32:18
SPEAKER_03: Oh, we heard this one.
32:19
SPEAKER_03: This was angry.
32:20
SPEAKER_03: Okay, this is a see if I can get another one.
32:27
SPEAKER_03: See the thing is you have to like the rolling stones because it sounds like the rolling stones, you know.
32:38
SPEAKER_03: This album is called Hackney Diamonds, by the way.
32:43
SPEAKER_03: Came out in October of last year.
32:46
SPEAKER_08: Well I get to take a break from it all.
32:50
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I mean it's the wind and the will must call.
32:57
SPEAKER_03: Skipping.
32:58
SPEAKER_03: Oh, no, that's no, that's that's gonna go to a different one.
33:00
SPEAKER_03: So there's a couple of sound sound um pieces, you know, sound sound uh samples from Hackney Diamonds.
33:07
SPEAKER_03: I I almost picked it up uh just on that, you know, all these listeners saying, Oh, it's a great album for the Rolling Stones.
33:14
SPEAKER_03: It's a great album.
33:14
SPEAKER_03: So I I was like, I was in the store the other day and I was like, ah, there it is.
33:20
SPEAKER_09: Hmm.
33:21
SPEAKER_03: I I can't I can't I'm not that big of a Rolling Stone.
33:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, if it was anything different.
33:28
SPEAKER_03: And because this like the this fan base of Eddie Trunk and Eddie Trunk himself, they're they're fans of hard rock.
33:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
33:36
SPEAKER_03: You know, rock too, but I mean just like hard rock and metal.
33:39
SPEAKER_03: And I was like, maybe it's different.
33:41
SPEAKER_03: Maybe because they kept speaking really highly of it, and I was like, hmm.
33:45
SPEAKER_03: So I almost bought it, and I was like, no, I'm gonna listen to it first.
33:49
SPEAKER_03: So I'm glad I did because it sounds like the rolling stones.
33:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's a rolling stone.
33:53
SPEAKER_09: And that's not a bad thing.
33:54
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's just you have to you kind of have to be a fan.
33:57
SPEAKER_03: You gotta be.
33:58
SPEAKER_09: You gotta you gotta be you gotta live, eat, breathe.
34:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
34:01
SPEAKER_03: Stones.
34:02
SPEAKER_03: Because uh, you know, m my music purchasing and uh appetite, um I try and get away from stuff that all sounds the same.
34:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
34:13
SPEAKER_03: You know, well, for the most part, except for like Van Halen.
34:16
SPEAKER_03: Right.
34:17
SPEAKER_03: Right.
34:18
SPEAKER_03: Speaking of new music, we were we speaking of new music?
34:20
SPEAKER_03: Well, we are now apparently.
34:22
SPEAKER_03: I have a uh a new song for you.
34:24
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
34:24
SPEAKER_03: From a recently inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, Cheryl Crow.
34:30
SPEAKER_09: Ah this will be underwhelming.
34:32
SPEAKER_03: You think so?
34:33
SPEAKER_09: Probably.
34:34
SPEAKER_09: Uh I I've never been a huge fan of Cheryl Crowe.
34:37
SPEAKER_03: I I like Cheryl Crow.
34:38
SPEAKER_09: Uh I could take her lever.
34:40
SPEAKER_03: Um her new album is called Evolution.
34:44
SPEAKER_03: It's the 11th album and the first in five years.
34:47
SPEAKER_03: It's gonna come out in March.
34:49
SPEAKER_03: Um she had previously stated that her 2019 album, Threads, would be her last.
34:57
SPEAKER_03: Um and now she's changed her mind.
34:59
SPEAKER_03: Everything is more song-oriented now with streaming and making an album is a huge endeavor.
35:04
SPEAKER_03: Uh, she explained, however, that once she started sending demos to this producer, Elizondo, the songs just kept flowing out of me, and it was pretty obvious this was going to be an album.
35:14
SPEAKER_03: I.e., she needed money.
35:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
35:16
SPEAKER_03: Well.
35:17
SPEAKER_03: Alright, so this is called Alarm Clock.
35:20
SPEAKER_03: She said, let's see, this music and these lyrics came from sitting in the quiet and writing from a deep soul place.
35:26
SPEAKER_03: I said I'd never make another record, thought there was no point to it, but this music comes from my soul, and I hope whoever hears this record can feel that.
35:36
SPEAKER_03: Um, so this is alarm clock.
36:42
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I don't know.
36:43
SPEAKER_09: I don't know how to take this.
36:46
SPEAKER_03: Uh, that's why I hate my alarm clock.
36:52
SPEAKER_03: And the riff is kind of like the very beginning is kind of like she was going for like a like electronica.
36:58
SPEAKER_03: Almost like but it was almost like um um I almost heard uh White Stripes.
37:08
SPEAKER_03: Ah, that's what I was trying to do.
37:09
SPEAKER_03: You know, right?
37:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it is very white stripey.
37:11
SPEAKER_03: Just the just that just that riff in the beginning is just white stripes or um what's that uh booze band that's just the drummer and the uh Black Keys?
37:24
SPEAKER_03: Black Keys.
37:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
37:26
SPEAKER_03: But then it gets turned into ear candy.
37:28
SPEAKER_03: I mean she it is a catchy tune.
37:30
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I mean, yeah, she sounds good.
37:32
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you know.
37:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, she sounds great.
37:33
SPEAKER_03: She's 60 something, I think.
37:35
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, so um but I I don't know how to take it.
37:38
SPEAKER_09: I just think I'm just thinking, yeah, I don't know.
37:40
SPEAKER_03: I like the stuff that she was doing before this.
37:43
SPEAKER_03: Now she put out an album Um that had that um it's very pop.
37:50
SPEAKER_03: It was um I'm gonna soak up the sun.
37:54
SPEAKER_03: She had that song Steve McQueen.
37:57
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah That was a great that was a good album, I thought.
37:59
SPEAKER_03: And she's had a couple good albums, but the stuff she was doing right before this, um like she did some stuff with Chris Stapleton, and she was doing very like acoustic, soulful, country, not country, but kind of country stuff that seemed to fit her better.
38:17
SPEAKER_03: Uh and then she puts out this, which I'm not saying this is bad.
38:21
SPEAKER_09: Um I just don't know how to take it.
38:23
SPEAKER_03: This is this is this fits in with Soak Up the Sun.
38:26
SPEAKER_03: You know, this this kind of goes with that pop stuff that she was doing.
38:30
SPEAKER_03: She was doing there for a while.
38:31
SPEAKER_03: So so I I don't know.
38:33
SPEAKER_03: I I I don't know that I'm I'm not underwhelmed.
38:36
SPEAKER_03: I think it's expected.
38:38
SPEAKER_03: It's what to expect from Cheryl Crow, maybe.
38:41
SPEAKER_09: I guess.
38:42
SPEAKER_09: I I mean I really don't know what to ever expect.
38:44
SPEAKER_09: Because again, I'm not a big fan of her.
38:46
SPEAKER_03: Right.
38:47
SPEAKER_09: Um I really don't know what to expect from her.
38:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
38:50
SPEAKER_09: So I just you know, I'm just anytime I hear a Cheryl Crow song, I'm just okay.
38:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
38:56
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's like you said, it's not bad.
38:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
38:58
SPEAKER_03: It's not fantastic, but it's not Yeah, I mean, I think she sounds great.
39:02
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, she does and the song is cute.
39:05
SPEAKER_03: And she looks great.
39:06
SPEAKER_09: She does look great.
39:07
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
39:07
SPEAKER_09: So, you know, hey, why not?
39:08
SPEAKER_09: Why not?
39:09
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
39:10
SPEAKER_09: Oh, I did see a clip of Debbie Gibson uh playing.
39:14
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
39:15
SPEAKER_09: She looks great, man.
39:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, she does.
39:17
SPEAKER_09: She sounds good.
39:17
SPEAKER_09: She was doing uh Lost in Your Eyes, I think.
39:20
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
39:20
SPEAKER_09: On piano.
39:21
SPEAKER_09: It was actually kind of cool.
39:22
SPEAKER_09: I think Debbie Gibson.
39:24
SPEAKER_03: It's funny, there was a there was a time uh not long ago actually, within the last ten years, where Debbie Gibson was uh resisting the uh history of Debbie Gibson.
39:37
SPEAKER_03: She was insisting people call her Deborah.
39:40
SPEAKER_03: You know, so I mean it's Well, but I think she was in a I think she was in a stage of her life where she didn't want to sing electric youth.
39:48
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
39:49
SPEAKER_03: I mean it was that's what made you.
39:51
SPEAKER_03: I know, but I think I think as an artist you go through especially one that had a career like she had, has a career like she has.
40:00
SPEAKER_03: Um that you're known for this thing, but you you want to do something Oh, I get that, yeah, I I get that.
40:08
SPEAKER_09: But you still gotta Well you gotta play what the people wanna hear.
40:11
SPEAKER_03: Well here's the thing.
40:12
SPEAKER_03: I think in the last few years she's been embracing it.
40:15
SPEAKER_03: And so she's and she and she's kind of come around so that she's not afraid to sing Lost in Your Eyes or whatever it was that she was singing, you know, and and she's kind of em embracing that and and uh the impact that she's had on she has had an impact on some other artists.
40:34
SPEAKER_01: Oh I'm sure she knows, yeah.
40:36
SPEAKER_03: But yeah, she looks great, she sounds great.
40:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yep, yep.
40:39
SPEAKER_03: Uh let's see.
40:42
SPEAKER_03: Um I don't know.
40:43
SPEAKER_03: I was gonna go I was gonna go um country there for a little while.
40:47
SPEAKER_03: Um because I had but then I don't think I want to go there now.
40:50
SPEAKER_03: I had um you know how we do ultimate classic rock?
40:54
SPEAKER_03: Well, there's another place called Taste of Country, which is the same company.
40:58
SPEAKER_03: Um and they had the 30 um most depressing country songs of all time.
41:03
SPEAKER_09: Oh, let's do that next week.
41:05
SPEAKER_03: You want to do that next week?
41:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
41:06
SPEAKER_03: Well, I was I was I wasn't even gonna do the whole list, I was just gonna do like the top ten.
41:09
SPEAKER_09: I want to see what I want to hear what the most depressing songs are, man.
41:13
SPEAKER_09: This will be interesting.
41:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and I re I I read a little a couple of them and I'm like, holy crap.
41:19
SPEAKER_03: Yes, let's do that next week.
41:21
SPEAKER_03: So we got well, don't forget.
41:23
SPEAKER_02: Well, right, put it in your notes there, poindexter.
41:27
SPEAKER_02: My notes?
41:28
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so let's see.
41:29
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to um I'm O'Brien.
41:33
SPEAKER_02: I take notes now.
41:34
SPEAKER_02: 30 most depressing country songs of all time.
41:40
SPEAKER_03: Taste of country.
41:41
SPEAKER_03: There.
41:42
SPEAKER_03: It's in my notes.
41:44
SPEAKER_03: It's in the notes.
41:45
SPEAKER_03: It's in my notes.
41:45
SPEAKER_03: So that means we'll forget it again.
41:48
SPEAKER_03: Probably.
41:48
SPEAKER_10: We'll do that uh next week we'll be like, hey yeah! Remember what we're gonna do there today?
41:53
SPEAKER_10: Oh, we were gonna interview somebody.
41:54
SPEAKER_10: Oh, that's right.
41:54
SPEAKER_10: Oh yeah, wait a minute.
41:57
SPEAKER_10: This is dumb.
41:59
SPEAKER_10: We don't know anything.
42:00
SPEAKER_02: Let's uh let's take a break.
42:03
SPEAKER_02: Um and I don't want to take a break.
42:06
SPEAKER_02: Well, you don't have to, but I'm gonna stop.
42:08
SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna do some push-ups on your Oh, you know what I wanted to do?
42:13
SPEAKER_03: I wanted to do this live on the on the uh podcast too because I haven't listened to it yet.
42:17
SPEAKER_03: Did you see the thing that um um Mark sent us?
42:22
SPEAKER_03: T and song ideas.
42:24
SPEAKER_03: Oh, uh Weird Al.
42:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
42:26
SPEAKER_03: Did you have you heard that song?
42:27
SPEAKER_03: I haven't heard it.
42:28
SPEAKER_03: Uh I want to hear it.
42:30
SPEAKER_03: So we're doing one of the songs that we're doing.
42:31
SPEAKER_03: We've got to talk about that too.
42:32
SPEAKER_03: The fundraiser.
42:33
SPEAKER_03: Right.
42:34
SPEAKER_03: But one this is one of the songs that the syndicate has learned uh recently, uh, and this is Weird Al's version of it.
42:41
SPEAKER_03: Um which I'm assuming is what it can't is it just is it just is it the song?
42:52
SPEAKER_03: Because it says it's a tribute to George.
44:01
SPEAKER_03: I dig it.
44:04
SPEAKER_09: I love it.
44:05
SPEAKER_03: That's pretty cool.
44:05
SPEAKER_09: Of course, I will always love Weirdo.
44:07
SPEAKER_09: I don't care, man.
44:09
SPEAKER_09: I don't care.
44:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
44:10
SPEAKER_09: I just love Weirdo.
44:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, me too.
44:13
SPEAKER_03: Me too.
44:14
SPEAKER_03: Um speaking of the did you see the set list?
44:18
SPEAKER_09: Yes.
44:18
SPEAKER_03: And and you're happy with it?
44:19
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
44:20
SPEAKER_03: Okay, good.
44:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
44:21
SPEAKER_03: Because I took everything that you said that you wanted in there and put it in there.
44:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
44:26
SPEAKER_03: So I just uh I took what you said, put it in there, and then I tried to balance everything out with um a lot of sixties.
44:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah because I noticed that a lot of the songs that we've been learning lately are not the sixties.
44:39
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
44:40
SPEAKER_03: So I wanted to make sure that our that was taken care of.
44:42
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
44:43
SPEAKER_09: It's it's it's more of a syndicate.
44:45
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it seems balanced.
44:46
SPEAKER_03: It seems balanced.
44:47
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
44:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
44:47
SPEAKER_09: So that's what I was you know, I don't want us to get, you know.
44:52
SPEAKER_03: Um away from why we why we started.
44:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
44:56
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
44:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
44:57
SPEAKER_03: I mean it's good to have these because we're doing some great songs.
45:00
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
45:00
SPEAKER_03: Uh but and they're big and bombastic songs.
45:02
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
45:03
SPEAKER_03: But they're not necessarily Motown, which is what we started with, or or sixties.
45:08
SPEAKER_09: Which is our first love.
45:09
SPEAKER_03: Right.
45:10
SPEAKER_03: Which is so I wanted to kind of balance it.
45:12
SPEAKER_03: And I think I think it's balanced.
45:14
SPEAKER_03: It's good.
45:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
45:15
SPEAKER_03: It's good.
45:15
SPEAKER_03: It's good.
45:17
SPEAKER_03: So yeah, so speaking of that, so we have a fundraiser.
45:20
SPEAKER_03: We talked about this on the last podcast.
45:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
45:22
SPEAKER_03: Uh but I want to keep plugging it.
45:24
SPEAKER_03: We're going to keep talking about it.
45:25
SPEAKER_03: January 20th at the Caribbean Performing Arts Center, Star City Syndicate is performing a fundraiser for the Arustic Teen Leadership Camp.
45:32
SPEAKER_09: Yes.
45:33
SPEAKER_03: Um I found out, and you knew this obviously, I didn't, that Chris Morton's wife went to ATLC.
45:41
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
45:42
SPEAKER_03: I had no idea.
45:43
SPEAKER_09: That's how that's how I knew her from the city.
45:44
SPEAKER_03: And she she said it changed her life.
45:46
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
45:47
SPEAKER_03: Um and she's gonna be speaking at the at the performance.
45:51
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
45:51
SPEAKER_03: So that's just kick butt.
45:53
SPEAKER_03: I I had no idea.
45:55
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, uh yeah.
45:55
SPEAKER_03: I mean she would uh it was probably had to be 15, 20 years ago now.
46:01
SPEAKER_03: Well early to mid-2000s?
46:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
46:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
46:05
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, that's pretty cool.
46:06
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, yeah, when he when they first were you know, I never knew they knew each other.
46:12
SPEAKER_03: Right.
46:13
SPEAKER_09: And then when she came back from California, I was like, I didn't see that coming.
46:17
SPEAKER_09: Right.
46:19
SPEAKER_09: What is going on here?
46:20
SPEAKER_09: Right.
46:21
SPEAKER_09: You know, so but yeah, I think I've always loved Jordan.
46:24
SPEAKER_09: She's she's great.
46:25
SPEAKER_09: And uh I still remember from camp and stuff like that.
46:28
SPEAKER_03: And yeah, so that was that was after my time.
46:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
46:31
SPEAKER_09: That was that was probably five, six years after you.
46:33
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
46:34
SPEAKER_03: So that's that's pretty cool.
46:35
SPEAKER_03: So we have that in common.
46:36
SPEAKER_03: So I'm I'm I'm happy about that.
46:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
46:38
SPEAKER_03: Um so yeah, that's a that's a big gig coming up.
46:41
SPEAKER_03: We had a gig last Friday.
46:42
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
46:43
SPEAKER_03: Uh first time in in Holton since we hit the moose.
46:47
SPEAKER_09: Uh June.
46:48
SPEAKER_09: Back in June.
46:48
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
46:49
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
46:49
SPEAKER_03: So it was it was almost I mean, it was six months anyway.
46:52
SPEAKER_03: Six, eight, six, seven months, something like that.
46:55
SPEAKER_03: Um and it was good.
46:56
SPEAKER_03: I mean, it was it was we probably weren't on top of our game because we hadn't played since October, but we I mean I thought it was.
47:06
SPEAKER_09: We just down at pr I thought it was pretty great.
47:08
SPEAKER_03: Yep, I thought it was good.
47:09
SPEAKER_03: So I had a good time.
47:10
SPEAKER_03: I thought it went over well, and and we're back there February twenty-third, I think.
47:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
47:14
SPEAKER_03: Um the next gig that we're playing is uh actually next Monday.
47:18
SPEAKER_01: Private party.
47:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
47:18
SPEAKER_01: Yep, private holiday party.
47:20
SPEAKER_01: So weird.
47:21
SPEAKER_01: It is on a Monday.
47:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
47:22
SPEAKER_03: Martin Luther King Jr.
47:24
SPEAKER_03: Day.
47:24
SPEAKER_03: I know, right?
47:24
SPEAKER_03: As a matter of fact.
47:25
SPEAKER_09: So I have a dream that O'Brien and Doug will play.
47:29
SPEAKER_03: And then uh Syndicate is doing a couple school shows in February.
47:32
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
47:33
SPEAKER_09: Uh right before vacation, so you know they're gonna be paying attention.
47:36
SPEAKER_03: Oh yes.
47:36
SPEAKER_03: Oh yes, of course.
47:38
SPEAKER_03: So um I'm I'm excited.
47:40
SPEAKER_09: We're going to the Valley.
47:41
SPEAKER_03: Yes, we're going to St.
47:42
SPEAKER_03: John Valley.
47:43
SPEAKER_09: Because I I I don't know what it is.
47:45
SPEAKER_09: Um the Valley's music programs are kind of lacking.
47:51
SPEAKER_03: Yes, they are.
47:53
SPEAKER_09: Uh I'm not even sh I don't think Fort Kent even has Well, I think they do now.
47:58
SPEAKER_09: No, do they now?
47:59
SPEAKER_03: Well, um Madawaska just got somebody, I think.
48:03
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
48:04
SPEAKER_03: But they have been hurting for a long time, and I think there's something in Fort Kent.
48:07
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
48:08
SPEAKER_03: Not a lot, and not what there should be.
48:11
SPEAKER_09: There's for a long time there was nothing.
48:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
48:14
SPEAKER_09: And uh I I never, you know, Madawaska, I think they've had something all along, but they have, but it's Van Buren has, because I've I played with the Van Buren band.
48:23
SPEAKER_09: Right.
48:23
SPEAKER_09: For a Veterans Day thing, which was pretty cool.
48:26
SPEAKER_03: Right.
48:26
SPEAKER_09: Good bunch of kids.
48:27
SPEAKER_03: But it's definitely lacking uh up in the valley.
48:30
SPEAKER_03: So which is unfortunate because there's a lot of lot of talented people up in the valley.
48:33
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, absolutely.
48:34
SPEAKER_03: So so we're playing caribou and then we're playing up in Madawaska.
48:38
SPEAKER_09: Well, I'm glad we're going back to Caribou because we missed out.
48:40
SPEAKER_03: Wait, is it Matawaska or Fort Cat that we're playing?
48:41
SPEAKER_09: Madawaska.
48:42
SPEAKER_03: Madawaska.
48:43
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
48:43
SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, we were supposed to play Caribou.
48:45
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
48:46
SPEAKER_03: And we missed out.
48:47
SPEAKER_09: Um they forgot.
48:49
SPEAKER_03: Right.
48:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
48:50
SPEAKER_03: You guys are coming?
48:50
SPEAKER_03: What?
48:51
SPEAKER_03: Wait a minute.
48:52
SPEAKER_03: So they didn't forget this time.
48:53
SPEAKER_03: So we're doing that again in February.
48:55
SPEAKER_02: Um great.
48:56
SPEAKER_03: So I took the day off.
48:58
SPEAKER_03: I'm pretty excited.
48:59
SPEAKER_03: I mean, you know, I just I love playing with this band.
49:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I know.
49:03
SPEAKER_03: At least, at least, you know, like we go like weeks and sometimes months without playing.
49:10
SPEAKER_03: And then when you play, it's like, oh yeah, I'm in a cool band.
49:13
SPEAKER_03: I'm in a very cool band.
49:14
SPEAKER_03: I forgot.
49:15
SPEAKER_03: And then you guys are awesome.
49:17
SPEAKER_03: And then we start up the summer season and it's like, oh wait, we got another one?
49:22
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, but it's fun.
49:23
SPEAKER_09: It is fun.
49:24
SPEAKER_09: Because it's it's like a little it's a clan.
49:26
SPEAKER_03: It is a clan.
49:27
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
49:27
SPEAKER_03: It's a family at this point.
49:28
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I mean, it's just, you know, we're all we kind of like, you know, live and die by each other, you know.
49:34
SPEAKER_09: So it it's kind of great.
49:35
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
49:35
SPEAKER_09: You know, I I I you know, I enjoy I enjoy syndicate gigs because it's, you know, we're gonna get together and we're gonna have some laughs and you know.
49:43
SPEAKER_03: And it's so funny how how um people can pick up each other's slack if if we need it.
49:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
49:48
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
49:49
SPEAKER_03: Like if somebody is um not feeling it or if somebody is not even there, um we are able to pull it off.
49:57
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
49:57
SPEAKER_09: You know, it's yeah, we did that a couple times last year.
49:59
SPEAKER_09: So, you know, it was like, you know, we should be like, oh, next man up.
50:03
SPEAKER_03: And it's not like we're like, you know, if someone is lacking or or or isn't there that they're gonna be replaced.
50:09
SPEAKER_03: It's just that we get through the gig and then they come back when they're you know Yeah, when they're ready.
50:14
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, when they're ready to come back or whatever.
50:15
SPEAKER_09: Whatever, you know.
50:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
50:16
SPEAKER_03: It's just uh it's it's cool.
50:17
SPEAKER_03: It's a family.
50:18
SPEAKER_03: It's it's it's good stuff.
50:20
SPEAKER_03: So I'm excited.
50:21
SPEAKER_09: We're like we're like the parjid family on steroids.
50:23
SPEAKER_09: We need a bus.
50:25
SPEAKER_09: Dude, we need like we need a bus.
50:27
SPEAKER_09: Trailer truck.
50:28
unknown: Yeah.
50:29
SPEAKER_09: You know what I mean?
50:31
SPEAKER_09: We need Larry to like drive us around.
50:33
SPEAKER_09: Not cousin Larry, yes, the other Larry.
50:35
SPEAKER_09: Stage Manager Larry.
50:36
SPEAKER_03: Stage Manager Larry.
50:37
SPEAKER_09: Yes.
50:38
SPEAKER_09: We got cousin Larry and Stage Manager Larry.
50:40
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
50:41
SPEAKER_03: Because Stage Manager Larry has our literal stages.
50:44
SPEAKER_03: He does our stages.
50:45
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
50:45
SPEAKER_09: So he manages them.
50:46
SPEAKER_09: Yep.
50:47
SPEAKER_09: And he drives them around for us.
50:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
50:53
SPEAKER_03: Alright.
50:54
SPEAKER_03: We're gonna take a break.
50:55
SPEAKER_03: Uh and we're gonna come back, we're gonna climb the wall of time.
51:00
SPEAKER_03: Are we gonna call it we can't?
51:01
SPEAKER_03: We can't.
51:02
SPEAKER_03: We do the Michael McDonald.
51:03
SPEAKER_03: I don't have a Michael McDonald moment this week.
51:05
SPEAKER_03: Well, we don't have to.
51:06
SPEAKER_03: Do you do you have one?
51:07
SPEAKER_09: I don't have one.
51:07
SPEAKER_03: You don't have one?
51:08
SPEAKER_09: I just you should play that clip from uh well, is it's not a Rick Moranis thing?
51:13
SPEAKER_09: The Rick Moranis thing.
51:14
SPEAKER_09: That was hilarious.
51:15
SPEAKER_09: I don't know if I can I don't know.
51:16
SPEAKER_09: I don't know if it's uh I don't I think I think that's more of a visual.
51:20
SPEAKER_09: It's a visual thing, yeah.
51:20
SPEAKER_09: You should you should post it on our page though.
51:22
SPEAKER_03: I should.
51:23
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
51:24
SPEAKER_03: Maybe I will.
51:24
SPEAKER_09: That'll that'll be our Michael McDonald moment.
51:26
SPEAKER_09: There you go.
51:27
SPEAKER_09: Rick Moranis being Michael McDonald.
51:29
SPEAKER_03: Yep, Rick Moranis, of course, uh from SCTV and uh a classmate of Geddy Lee.
51:34
SPEAKER_03: Yes, classmate of Gedily Lee.
51:36
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
51:36
SPEAKER_03: Um anyway.
51:39
SPEAKER_03: So I guess we're gonna take a break.
51:40
SPEAKER_03: We'll come back, we'll climb the wall of twos.
51:42
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
51:42
SPEAKER_03: We'll do that.
51:44
SPEAKER_03: Okay, okay.
51:45
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51:46
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52:59
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53:01
SPEAKER_03: Hey, you were big.
53:03
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so we forgot that we're instead of climbing the wall, uh, Doug wanted me to uh kind of uh look up the history of Eva Cassidy and and sample that.
53:13
SPEAKER_03: So uh at this point I'm gonna pretend to climb the wall.
53:16
SPEAKER_09: Well, you don't even have a C D in there, so you don't even know where it is.
53:19
SPEAKER_03: I do have it.
53:20
SPEAKER_03: I know I wear it.
53:21
SPEAKER_03: I know where it is.
53:21
SPEAKER_09: Okay, but is it but are you able to play any?
53:24
SPEAKER_03: Yes, I've already imported it into the city.
53:25
SPEAKER_03: Oh, you have?
53:26
SPEAKER_03: Okay, fine.
53:27
SPEAKER_09: So uh So So what I'm gonna do is I I'm gonna put my book today.
53:31
SPEAKER_03: Yes, I'm gonna look up the history of Eva Cassidy and while I'm doing that.
53:34
SPEAKER_09: It is A Hard Days Right by Steve Turner, and it is the stories behind every single Beatles song.
53:41
SPEAKER_09: So if you want, I can randomly pick a Beatles song or you can choose one.
53:46
SPEAKER_03: I want you to randomly pick one side.
53:48
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, because I'm doing this over here.
53:50
SPEAKER_09: Okay, so here we go.
53:52
SPEAKER_09: Alrighty.
53:55
SPEAKER_09: Alright, here we go.
53:57
SPEAKER_09: Ooh, this is a long one.
53:58
SPEAKER_09: Penny Lane.
54:00
SPEAKER_09: Oh.
54:01
SPEAKER_09: Alright, so the story behind Penny Lane.
54:06
SPEAKER_09: Although Penny Lane is a Liverpool Street, it is also the name given to the area that surrounds this junction with Smithtown Road.
54:13
SPEAKER_09: None of the places mentioned in Penny Lane exist in the lane itself.
54:18
SPEAKER_09: Indeed, to anyone not raised in this area of Liverpool, it is, as musician and art critic George Melli once put it, a dull suburban shopping center.
54:27
SPEAKER_09: But to Paul and John, who had spent their early years in the neighborhood, it was a symbol of glorious childhood innocence when everyone seemed friendly and the sun shone forever in a clear blue sky.
54:39
SPEAKER_09: John had been the first to refer to Penny Lane in the song, having tried to incorporate it into In My Life, but it was Paul who eventually picked it up and made it work.
54:48
SPEAKER_09: He created a Liverpool street scene that could have been taken from a children's picture book with a pretty nurse, a jolly barber, an eccentric banker, a patriotic fireman, and some fun friendly passers-by.
55:02
SPEAKER_09: It's part fact, he admitted, it's part nostalgia.
55:05
SPEAKER_09: There was a barber shop in Penny Lane run by a Mr.
55:09
SPEAKER_09: Bioledi who claimed to have cut hair for John, Paul, and George's children.
55:14
SPEAKER_09: There were two banks, a fire station on Allerton Road, and in the middle of a roundabout, a shelter.
55:19
SPEAKER_09: The banker without a Mac and fireman with a portrait of the Queen in his pocket never really existed.
55:25
SPEAKER_09: They were Paul's embellishments.
55:27
SPEAKER_09: I wrote that the Barbara had photographs of every head he had the pleasure of knowing, said Paul.
55:32
SPEAKER_09: Actually, he had just had photos of different hairstyles.
55:35
SPEAKER_09: But all the people who come and go do stop and say hello.
55:40
SPEAKER_09: Oh.
55:42
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
55:42
SPEAKER_09: Finger pie was a liver puddlion sexual reference included in the song to amuse the locals.
55:51
SPEAKER_09: It was just a nice little joke for the Liverpool lads who like a bit of smut, said Paul.
55:55
SPEAKER_09: For months afterwards, girls serving in local chip shops had to be put up with requests for fish and finger pie.
56:02
SPEAKER_09: Liverpool poet Roger McGow, who was in the 60s group Scaffold with Paul's brother Mike, believes that Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields were significant because it was the first time that places other than Memphis and roads other than Route 66 or Highway 61 had been celebrated in rock.
56:22
SPEAKER_09: The Beatles were starting to write songs about home, McGow says.
56:26
SPEAKER_09: They began to draw on things like the rhymes we used to sing in the streets and old songs our parents remembered from the days of the music halls.
56:34
SPEAKER_09: Liverpool didn't have a mythology until they created one.
56:38
SPEAKER_09: Today, Penny Lane has become an important landmark on any Beatles tour of Liverpool, and yet the success of the song has meant that many of its features have changed.
56:50
SPEAKER_09: All the original street signs were stolen.
56:53
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
56:54
SPEAKER_09: And so those that remain are screwed down tightly and very high up.
56:58
SPEAKER_09: The barber shop has become an unisex salon with a picture of the Beatles displayed in the window.
57:04
SPEAKER_09: The shelter on the roundabout has been renovated and reopened as Sergeant Pepper's Bistro.
57:09
SPEAKER_09: The Penny Lane wine bar has the song's lyrics painted above its windows.
57:14
SPEAKER_09: Both Strawberry Fields Forever and Penny Lane were intended for the new album, but Capitol Records in America were pushing for a single, and it was released as a double A-side.
57:24
SPEAKER_09: In America, it took the top spot, but in Britain it was kept at number two by Engelbert Humperding's hit, Please Release Me.
57:32
SPEAKER_03: Interesting.
57:33
SPEAKER_09: That is interesting.
57:38
SPEAKER_03: I think um So I forgot to put uh Eva Cassidy's album in my iTunes, so I'm doing that right now.
57:45
SPEAKER_09: Wow, there you go.
57:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
57:47
SPEAKER_03: So uh but her story is really interesting.
57:51
SPEAKER_09: Okay.
57:52
SPEAKER_03: Um so I'll I'll read that to you.
57:57
SPEAKER_03: By the way, that was great.
57:58
SPEAKER_03: Hard days writing.
57:59
SPEAKER_03: I know, that is.
58:00
SPEAKER_03: We should do that for now.
58:01
SPEAKER_03: We will.
58:01
SPEAKER_03: At least for a while.
58:02
SPEAKER_09: So we got a couple hundred of them to go, so there we go.
58:06
SPEAKER_03: The album that I purchased is an album called Songbird, which is a collection of um some of her work.
58:15
SPEAKER_03: Now, I had heard I think the first time I heard Eva Cassidy was on I used to listen to a thing on Main Public Radio um late at night at like 10 o'clock at night.
58:27
SPEAKER_03: It was called In Tune by Ten.
58:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
58:28
SPEAKER_03: Where they play contemporary folk music and stuff like that, and heard her voice and was just like, Who is this?
58:35
SPEAKER_03: Um and found out, and then I found out the history.
58:41
SPEAKER_03: And I think I had this album in the past, and I think I it might have been in that stash that I got rid of.
58:47
SPEAKER_03: Uh remember when I downsized?
58:48
SPEAKER_03: Well you didn't give it to me, so no no when I say um I ha remember I had a like thousands of CDs that I uh that I kind of uh donated.
58:59
SPEAKER_09: Well that's how we the wall of two came.
59:01
SPEAKER_03: That's how the wall of twos came to be, exactly.
59:03
SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna have to get a new mic uh thing here.
59:07
SPEAKER_03: Anyway.
59:08
SPEAKER_03: Um but I got I I got rid of it, uh donated it somewhere, and then I had to get another one.
59:15
SPEAKER_03: So I did.
59:16
SPEAKER_03: And so Eva Cassidy was an American singer and musician known for her interpretations of jazz, folk, and blues music, sung with a powerful emotive soprano voice.
59:27
SPEAKER_03: In 1992, she released her first album, The Other Side.
59:30
SPEAKER_03: It was a set of duets with a musician by the name of Chuck Brown, followed by the 1996 live solo album titled Live at Blues Alley.
59:40
SPEAKER_03: Although she had been honored by the Washington Area Music Association, she was virtually unknown outside her native Washington, D.C.
59:48
SPEAKER_03: At the time of her death from melanoma at the age of 33.
59:54
SPEAKER_09: Oh, it was way too young.
59:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, in uh 1996.
59:58
SPEAKER_03: Two years later, there were a couple of DJs in Britain, uh Mike Harding and Terry Wogan on BBC Radio 2.
1:00:07
SPEAKER_03: They started playing uh her versions of a sting song, Fields of Gold, and uh Over the Rainbow.
1:00:16
SPEAKER_03: Following the overwhelming response, a camcorder recording of Over the Rainbow, taken at Blues Alley in Washington by her friend, uh, was shown on BBC Two's Top of the Pops 2.
1:00:27
SPEAKER_03: Shortly afterwards, the compilation album Songbird, which is the one I have, climbed to the top of the UK albums chart almost three years after its initial release.
1:00:38
SPEAKER_03: The chart's success in the UK and Ireland led to increased recognition worldwide.
1:00:42
SPEAKER_03: Her posthumously released recordings, including three number one albums and one number one single in the UK, have sold more than ten million copies.
1:00:53
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
1:00:54
SPEAKER_03: Her music has also charted within the top ten in Australia, Germany, Norway, Sweden, and Switzerland.
1:01:00
SPEAKER_03: In total, nine posthumous albums have been released.
1:01:05
SPEAKER_03: The most recent, I Can Only Be Me, a collaboration with the London Symphony Orchestra, was released last year and charted at number nine on the UK album chart.
1:01:14
SPEAKER_03: So she they've released nine albums since she died.
1:01:17
SPEAKER_03: So the the amount of recording she must have done pretty massive.
1:01:24
SPEAKER_03: Must have been pretty massive.
1:01:25
SPEAKER_09: And they just kind of collected it all together and I think she's got more posthumous releases than Tupac and Elvis put together.
1:01:31
SPEAKER_09: Absolutely.
1:01:32
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_03: But I'm gonna play you one of the first things that I had heard from Eva Cassidy, and it is that um that Sting cover.
1:01:44
SPEAKER_03: Um the song Fields of Gold.
1:01:47
SPEAKER_03: Uh let's see if I can find it in my audience now because uh j her voice is just to me is memorize mesmerizing.
1:01:57
SPEAKER_03: Um why am I all the way down there?
1:02:02
SPEAKER_02: Oh my goodness.
1:02:03
SPEAKER_10: The alphabet is hard at some point.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_10: Why is the alphabet in that order?
1:02:10
SPEAKER_03: All right.
1:02:11
SPEAKER_06: So just close your eyes for a second and you remember me when the west wind moves among the fields of barley.
1:02:39
SPEAKER_06: You can tell the sun in his jealous sky when we woke in field to go.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_06: So she took her love for to gaze a while among the fields of barley in his time she fell as a hair kingdom among the fields of gold.
1:03:16
SPEAKER_06: Will you stay with me?
1:03:19
SPEAKER_06: Will you be my love among the fields of body?
1:03:28
SPEAKER_06: And you can tell the sun in its jealous sky when we walked in fields of gold.
1:03:39
SPEAKER_03: Isn't that amazing?
1:03:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:03:40
SPEAKER_03: It's just it's so great, man.
1:03:44
SPEAKER_03: Just so pure.
1:03:46
SPEAKER_03: I want to play one or two more from there.
1:03:47
SPEAKER_03: Why don't you pick one?
1:03:48
SPEAKER_03: Uh there's been some.
1:03:50
SPEAKER_03: Does any of those names stand out to you?
1:03:53
SPEAKER_09: This is which one is this?
1:03:54
SPEAKER_03: This is uh Fields of Gold.
1:03:56
SPEAKER_03: This is the first one, yeah.
1:03:57
SPEAKER_09: What about Songbird?
1:03:59
SPEAKER_09: That looks like is it written by Christine McVeigh?
1:04:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's a Philippa MacTo.
1:04:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
1:05:23
SPEAKER_06: Like never before.
1:05:26
SPEAKER_03: Just such a powerful voice, too.
1:05:28
SPEAKER_03: It's pure and pure and powerful.
1:05:29
SPEAKER_03: I want to hear the uh because one of the big ones was over the rainbow.
1:05:34
SPEAKER_03: I think this one was live at Blues Alley.
1:05:37
SPEAKER_03: Is that is that where this comes from?
1:05:39
SPEAKER_03: Or is this a studio recording?
1:05:43
SPEAKER_09: No, it's a studio.
1:05:45
SPEAKER_06: Is it rainbow?
1:06:03
SPEAKER_03: See why she sold ten million records.
1:06:05
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
1:06:43
SPEAKER_03: Makes me want to get some more evocacity.
1:06:46
SPEAKER_03: I know, right?
1:06:46
SPEAKER_03: Right?
1:06:46
SPEAKER_03: I mean, this is just this is this is just a collection.
1:06:49
SPEAKER_03: This is Sunday afternoon listening right here, man.
1:06:53
SPEAKER_03: Just kind of chillin'.
1:06:57
SPEAKER_03: I wonder if the any of her stuff is on vinyl.
1:07:00
SPEAKER_03: That would sound cool on vinyl.
1:07:02
SPEAKER_09: Oh, sure it would, yeah.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_06: Sunday.
1:07:11
SPEAKER_06: I wish the stuff.
1:07:15
SPEAKER_03: Anyway, you get the idea.
1:07:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:07:17
SPEAKER_03: It's it's uh peaceful.
1:07:21
SPEAKER_03: I find it peaceful.
1:07:23
SPEAKER_03: Sure.
1:07:23
SPEAKER_09: She was a landscaper.
1:07:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that was what was her main job.
1:07:27
SPEAKER_09: That was her job.
1:07:29
SPEAKER_09: She's a landscaper.
1:07:31
SPEAKER_09: She can sing like this?
1:07:32
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:07:33
SPEAKER_09: Amazing, man.
1:07:35
SPEAKER_03: And I'm assuming it's her family that's benefiting from the record sales.
1:07:40
SPEAKER_03: I would hope she's all that stuff.
1:07:41
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
1:07:47
SPEAKER_03: And she was.
1:07:49
SPEAKER_03: She was single when she passed, so she never had any kids or anything.
1:07:52
SPEAKER_09: I don't think, yeah.
1:07:53
SPEAKER_09: I'm just kind of speed reading her uh the liner notes here of the album.
1:08:03
SPEAKER_03: Can you imagine?
1:08:04
SPEAKER_03: I mean, you leave this world, but you leave this world with a gift like this.
1:08:11
SPEAKER_09: I mean, you live forever.
1:08:12
SPEAKER_03: Right, exactly.
1:08:13
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
1:08:14
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
1:08:14
SPEAKER_03: That's what I'm saying.
1:08:20
SPEAKER_03: That's why I want to record our tunes.
1:08:23
SPEAKER_03: I just wanna I just want to get them on record.
1:08:25
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:08:26
SPEAKER_03: All the ones that we've done.
1:08:27
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:08:27
SPEAKER_03: All the songs that I've written, I'd like to get them recorded.
1:08:30
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
1:08:30
SPEAKER_03: Just just to just even with just a guitar.
1:08:33
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, just yeah.
1:08:38
SPEAKER_03: I could listen to this forever.
1:08:39
SPEAKER_03: This could this could this is just peaceful.
1:08:45
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah, she's she's like a Kate Rustby, you know, you just you can just listen to for a while.
1:08:49
SPEAKER_03: We could do a whole episode on Kate Rusby, man.
1:08:51
SPEAKER_03: Man.
1:08:52
SPEAKER_03: Oh my word.
1:08:53
SPEAKER_03: Kate Rusby, one of the greatest female voices, in in my opinion.
1:08:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:08:59
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
1:09:00
SPEAKER_03: Speaking of pure female, well, I don't want to pivot because we should we'll we'll do her next week or something.
1:09:05
SPEAKER_03: Um that's what we should what that's what we should do.
1:09:08
SPEAKER_03: What's what what is like when's when's Women's History Month or something?
1:09:11
SPEAKER_03: We should we should do like female artists or something.
1:09:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:09:15
SPEAKER_03: Um I would put Eva Cassidy in there.
1:09:17
SPEAKER_03: Kate Rusby.
1:09:18
SPEAKER_03: Kate Rusby, man.
1:09:20
SPEAKER_03: Now you got me thinking about Kate Rusby's voice.
1:09:23
SPEAKER_03: Which is great.
1:09:24
SPEAKER_03: It's fantastic.
1:09:26
SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
1:09:27
SPEAKER_03: You want to borrow that?
1:09:28
SPEAKER_09: Well, you just got it, so I don't know.
1:09:30
SPEAKER_09: So I already just burned it in my house.
1:09:31
SPEAKER_09: Okay, well, I'll borrow it then.
1:09:34
SPEAKER_03: Don't have to tell me twice.
1:09:35
SPEAKER_03: There you go.
1:09:36
SPEAKER_03: Um, so yeah, that is our um Wall of Tunes album the week.
1:09:41
SPEAKER_03: Um Songbird.
1:09:42
SPEAKER_03: Songbird by Eva Cassidy.
1:09:44
SPEAKER_03: Rest in peace.
1:09:46
SPEAKER_09: Well, it's funny you played uh Over the Rainbow because yesterday I watched Judy.
1:09:51
SPEAKER_09: Judy Garland?
1:09:53
SPEAKER_09: The uh the the Oh, how was that?
1:09:55
SPEAKER_09: It was actually pretty good.
1:09:56
SPEAKER_09: Was that with Renee Zellwigger?
1:09:57
SPEAKER_09: Renee Zellwigger.
1:09:58
SPEAKER_03: And I heard she did an awesome job.
1:09:59
SPEAKER_09: She did an amazing job.
1:10:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:10:01
SPEAKER_09: Um she was kind of a train wreck.
1:10:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
1:10:05
SPEAKER_09: Well, Judy Garland was.
1:10:06
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:10:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:10:07
SPEAKER_09: And uh it portrays her as so, but I mean she could sing.
1:10:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:10:11
SPEAKER_03: She could sing.
1:10:11
SPEAKER_03: And didn't Renee did Renee Zellwigger sing in the movie?
1:10:15
SPEAKER_03: Couldn't tell.
1:10:16
SPEAKER_09: I can't tell.
1:10:17
SPEAKER_09: I mean, if if she was lip syncing, she was lip syncing really, really well.
1:10:21
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:10:22
SPEAKER_09: Um but I mean she had the mannerisms and the the look and you know, it was pretty great.
1:10:29
SPEAKER_09: I mean, just it just, you know.
1:10:31
SPEAKER_09: She I I think Judy Garland was doomed from the start.
1:10:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:10:35
SPEAKER_09: You know.
1:10:36
SPEAKER_09: I mean, she did, you know Of course she did the Wizard of Oz.
1:10:41
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:10:41
SPEAKER_09: And uh she was just I mean, she was just I mean the the the music business or the show business back then was almost like uh it's hard to explain.
1:10:52
SPEAKER_09: It's uh kind of like everything else, like baseball was, you know, before free agency.
1:10:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:10:56
SPEAKER_09: You know, you got on a team and you were on that team till you retired or died.
1:11:00
SPEAKER_03: Right.
1:11:00
SPEAKER_03: So she was part of this movie company.
1:11:03
SPEAKER_09: She was part of MGM and they basically controlled her life.
1:11:06
SPEAKER_09: I mean, you couldn't she couldn't do this, she couldn't do that.
1:11:09
SPEAKER_09: You know, you know, they start basically starved her.
1:11:12
SPEAKER_09: They kept her on pills like diet pills, and you know, so she wouldn't get fat, so she could be, you know, just you know doing the star thing, and it was just like wow.
1:11:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:11:24
SPEAKER_09: You know, I was just like, man, she had a rough life, and I felt I feel you you feel bad for her, but you know, you still she was great and she lived to entertain.
1:11:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:11:32
SPEAKER_09: And uh they really I thought it was I thought it was a pretty great movie.
1:11:36
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:11:36
SPEAKER_09: So, you know.
1:11:38
SPEAKER_09: Uh yeah.
1:11:39
SPEAKER_09: So it was it was interesting you played uh I heard about it.
1:11:41
SPEAKER_09: And then I watched uh I you know how like when we watch Amazon, customers also watched.
1:11:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:11:48
SPEAKER_09: There was the you know the the director David Lynch?
1:11:51
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, he's kind of a weird oh yeah.
1:11:53
SPEAKER_09: Um apparently he was a huge fan of the Wizard of Oz, and all his movies that he's made over the years, yeah, have like elements of the Wizard of Oz in his movies, and these like these it had it was like a documentary, and six different filmmakers like tore apart his movies and you know, I showed like this is from the Wizard of Oz.
1:12:16
SPEAKER_09: I'm like, whoa.
1:12:18
SPEAKER_09: Wow, yeah, it was pretty interesting.
1:12:19
SPEAKER_09: He's a very he was a very is I think he's still alive, um, very big fan of Wizard.
1:12:24
SPEAKER_09: It was one of the very first movies he ever saw, and his his whole work is based on the Wizard of Oz.
1:12:32
SPEAKER_09: Elements of the Wizard of Oz.
1:12:33
SPEAKER_09: And they and they and they portrayed that, you know, for different movies of his and Elements of Wizard of Oz.
1:12:38
SPEAKER_09: And they, you know, comparisons.
1:12:40
SPEAKER_09: I was like, whoa, this is crazy.
1:12:42
SPEAKER_09: So it was kind of interesting.
1:12:44
SPEAKER_09: It was an interesting weekend.
1:12:45
SPEAKER_03: I'm I have to watch that Judy.
1:12:47
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, go watch the Judy.
1:12:49
SPEAKER_09: It was it was very interesting.
1:12:50
SPEAKER_03: There's a bunch of movies I want to watch.
1:12:52
SPEAKER_03: Uh and maybe I'll get the chance to do it on Wednesday.
1:12:56
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, when you when the snow day comes.
1:12:58
SPEAKER_03: I'm hoping it's a snow day.
1:12:59
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it probably will be.
1:13:00
SPEAKER_03: I would think.
1:13:00
SPEAKER_03: I mean, we're expecting quite a bit.
1:13:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:13:02
SPEAKER_03: And it's and it's a mix and it's windy, and it's not a good combination.
1:13:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no.
1:13:07
SPEAKER_03: So I'm assuming we won't have school on Wednesday.
1:13:09
SPEAKER_03: So maybe I'll watch it then.
1:13:10
SPEAKER_03: There you go.
1:13:11
SPEAKER_03: But I have a thing, you know, I'll have a hard time because you know, my boys want to watch a certain kind of movie, and we can't because my daughter's here.
1:13:18
SPEAKER_03: Right.
1:13:19
SPEAKER_03: And so we have to kind of lock her in her bedroom.
1:13:22
SPEAKER_09: Get down there and get in the basement.
1:13:24
SPEAKER_03: And then she'll come and say, I want to watch a movie with you, Dad, so I'll end up watching something I really don't want to watch.
1:13:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:13:30
SPEAKER_03: But I do because she wants me to.
1:13:33
SPEAKER_03: Um and it's usually enjoyable to to watch it with her.
1:13:38
SPEAKER_03: Um but yeah.
1:13:40
SPEAKER_03: I like the I like the uh the grown-up movies too.
1:13:43
SPEAKER_03: Well yeah.
1:13:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:13:45
SPEAKER_03: And it's I was gonna I was gonna say no, then not those grown-up movies.
1:13:52
SPEAKER_03: Special movies.
1:13:53
SPEAKER_03: No, but uh um there's something to be said for sharing movies that you like like from when you were a kid, like or even younger, like younger than I am now.
1:14:09
SPEAKER_03: Like um I remember when I showed my boys Braveheart.
1:14:14
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah.
1:14:15
SPEAKER_03: You know, or The Patriot.
1:14:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, or things like that, and and watching them get something out of something that means a lot to you.
1:14:24
SPEAKER_03: You know, the other night this doesn't mean a lot to me, but the other night we were looking for a movie and I said, Well, I've got this one, it's from the 80s, it's kind of stupid and kind of it's it's kind of a campy, you know, what is it?
1:14:36
SPEAKER_03: Teen Wolf?
1:14:40
SPEAKER_03: So we watched Teen Wolf with Michael J.
1:14:43
SPEAKER_03: Fox, and you know the the part that caught them?
1:14:46
SPEAKER_03: And it was so funny.
1:14:47
SPEAKER_03: I know we're getting off on a tangent here, but so it was so funny because the part that caught them when my daughter came home from Ohio for Christmas, I told her, I said, We watched actually, and my son too, we watched Teen Wolf, and she brought up the same part that she remembers from it, and it was the part that caught these guys off guard.
1:15:09
SPEAKER_03: And it's the part where you remember Teen Wolf?
1:15:11
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, vaguely, probably, but where he first turns into the wolf in the bathroom and his dad's knocking on the door, yeah, and he's like, No, dad, no, I I can't I'll understand, just you why don't you open the door?
1:15:24
SPEAKER_03: Okay, dad, whatever you say.
1:15:25
SPEAKER_03: He opens the door and his dad is the wolf.
1:15:29
SPEAKER_03: So when that happened, Eli was like, Whoa, I didn't expect that.
1:15:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so but that's and that's the part my daughter talked about too.
1:15:41
SPEAKER_03: So it was kind of neat that whole connection there.
1:15:44
SPEAKER_03: So I like I like sharing movies that I liked when I was younger with my older kids.
1:15:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:15:51
SPEAKER_03: My daughter can't watch them yet.
1:15:52
SPEAKER_03: Right.
1:15:53
SPEAKER_03: You know, so it's kind of a bummer.
1:15:55
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, but you know, you get there.
1:15:57
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, always she'll get there.
1:15:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, she'll get there.
1:16:00
SPEAKER_09: But anyway, uh I I read somewhere that they're re-releasing Wizard of Oz in the theaters this year.
1:16:07
SPEAKER_03: They've been doing um well, even Dow at the Brayton has been playing playing some older movies.
1:16:14
SPEAKER_09: Well, the Temple in uh Holton has been playing like older movies.
1:16:18
SPEAKER_09: Like over Christmas they played Die Hard.
1:16:19
SPEAKER_09: Right.
1:16:20
SPEAKER_09: You know?
1:16:20
SPEAKER_09: So uh stuff like that.
1:16:22
SPEAKER_09: I mean, you know, but I think I think it's like a national national thing.
1:16:26
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:16:26
SPEAKER_09: It's like the I can't remember what anniversary 85th anniversary or something like that.
1:16:31
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:16:32
SPEAKER_09: Uh Wizard of Oz.
1:16:33
SPEAKER_09: I'd go see it in the theater.
1:16:34
SPEAKER_09: Oh heck yeah, I'd love to see it in the theater.
1:16:36
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:16:36
SPEAKER_09: Because I remember I still remember the days when they only showed it on TV and they only showed it around Thanksgiving.
1:16:42
SPEAKER_03: Right.
1:16:43
SPEAKER_09: You know what I mean?
1:16:44
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
1:16:45
SPEAKER_03: We have it on DVD.
1:16:46
SPEAKER_03: I've yet to watch it.
1:16:47
SPEAKER_03: Oh, really?
1:16:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we we have we we have the some sort of collector's edition on DVD.
1:16:52
SPEAKER_03: I don't even know if it's out of the wrapper.
1:16:54
SPEAKER_03: I just w I just wanted to have it.
1:16:55
SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah.
1:16:56
SPEAKER_09: Well you gotta it that's a that's a that's classic.
1:16:58
SPEAKER_03: Right.
1:16:59
SPEAKER_09: It's a classic.
1:17:00
SPEAKER_09: The book is if you ever read the book, it's way different than the book.
1:17:03
SPEAKER_03: Um speaking of classic stories, and I think you knew this story, but if you didn't, I'm that's why I'm bringing it up.
1:17:11
SPEAKER_03: I just read this before you got here about Jimmy Stewart.
1:17:15
SPEAKER_03: Jeremy Stuart uh before he did it to Wonderful Life.
1:17:19
SPEAKER_03: Did you know the story of his military career before he I know he was a bomber pilot Is that all you is that on you?
1:17:28
SPEAKER_03: Hold on.
1:17:29
SPEAKER_03: Let me see if I can find it.
1:17:30
SPEAKER_03: Because it was on Something about It was on a You know how every once in a while on Facebook you see they they say you might like this or Oh yeah Um well this thing came up let's see if it's it if I got the the right thing here Um this thing called Amazing Stories came up Uh maybe it wasn't maybe it wasn't the same thing because I think it was pretty pretty recent that it was reposted.
1:18:06
SPEAKER_03: But hey what if I just uh I know we're getting off on another tangent, it's what we do here.
1:18:19
SPEAKER_09: This is the tangent episode.
1:18:31
SPEAKER_09: Speaking of pizza Were we?
1:18:35
SPEAKER_09: No, but I'm gonna tell a story anyway.
1:18:37
SPEAKER_09: Um I went to pick up a pizza uh over the weekend.
1:18:41
SPEAKER_09: Why do have we become such a weird society?
1:18:46
SPEAKER_09: Yes because people will go to restaurants, they will take their pets, of course you can't take a pet in the restaurant.
1:18:57
SPEAKER_09: So they leave them on the vehicle.
1:18:59
SPEAKER_09: What is the freaking point of that?
1:19:01
SPEAKER_09: I don't understand.
1:19:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't either.
1:19:05
SPEAKER_09: I don't get it.
1:19:05
SPEAKER_09: Why why don't you just leave the dog at home?
1:19:09
SPEAKER_09: He wants to stay home.
1:19:11
SPEAKER_09: He doesn't want to sit in a vehicle while you go in and eat.
1:19:14
SPEAKER_03: Well, here's the thing, and that's one of the reasons uh my wife won't let us get a dog.
1:19:19
SPEAKER_03: Is because I think Because you're gonna take it everywhere.
1:19:21
SPEAKER_03: Yes, I think you have to in some in some cases, because you don't want to leave it and it'll tear apart your house.
1:19:29
SPEAKER_09: You know that's what the outdoors is for.
1:19:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's it's below zero outdoors, dude.
1:19:35
SPEAKER_09: Well, our last dog was Husky, so she she loved the outdoors.
1:19:38
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, she stayed outdoors all the time.
1:19:40
SPEAKER_09: She hated the inside.
1:19:42
SPEAKER_03: Um okay, so I found it.
1:19:43
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
1:19:43
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so did you know for all the fans of It's a Wonderful Life in Jimmy Stewart, just months after winning his 1941 Academy Award for Best Actor in the Philadelphia story, Jimmy Stewart, one of the best known actors of the day, left Hollywood and joined the U.S.
1:19:57
SPEAKER_03: Army.
1:19:58
SPEAKER_03: Uh he was the first big name movie star to enlist in World War II.
1:20:02
SPEAKER_03: An accomplished private pilot, the 33-year-old Hollywood icon became a U.S.
1:20:07
SPEAKER_03: Army Air Force aviator, earning his second lieutenant commission in early 1942.
1:20:13
SPEAKER_03: With a celebrity status and huge popularity with the American public, he was assigned to starring in recruiting films, attending rallies, and training younger pilots.
1:20:21
SPEAKER_03: Stewart, however, wasn't satisfied.
1:20:24
SPEAKER_03: He wanted to fly combat missions in Europe, not spend time in a stateside training command.
1:20:29
SPEAKER_03: By 1944, frustrated and feeling the war was passing him by, he asked his commanding officer to transfer him to a unit deploying to Europe.
1:20:36
SPEAKER_03: His request was reluctantly granted.
1:20:39
SPEAKER_03: Stewart, now a captain, was sent to England, where he spent the next 18 months flying B-24 Liberator bombers over Germany.
1:20:47
SPEAKER_03: Throughout his time overseas, the U.S.
1:20:49
SPEAKER_03: Army Air Corps top brass had tried to keep the popular movie star from flying over enemy territory, but Stewart would hear nothing of it.
1:20:57
SPEAKER_03: Determined to lead by example, he bucked the system, assigned himself to every combat mission he could.
1:21:02
SPEAKER_03: By the end of the war, he was one of the most respected and decorated pilots in his unit, but his wartime service came at a high personal price.
1:21:09
SPEAKER_03: In the final months of World War II, he was grounded for being flak happy.
1:21:14
SPEAKER_03: Today they call that PTSD.
1:21:16
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, they'll say something like shell shock.
1:21:18
SPEAKER_09: Yep.
1:21:19
SPEAKER_03: When he returned for the to the U.S.
1:21:20
SPEAKER_03: in August 1945, Stewart was a changed man.
1:21:24
SPEAKER_03: He had lost so much weight that he looked sickly.
1:21:26
SPEAKER_03: He rarely slept, and when he did, he had nightmares of planes exploding and men falling through the air screaming.
1:21:32
SPEAKER_03: In one mission alone, his unit had lost thirteen planes and 130 men, most of whom he knew personally.
1:21:40
SPEAKER_03: He was depressed, couldn't focus, and refused to talk to anyone about his war experiences.
1:21:44
SPEAKER_03: His acting career was all but over, as one of Stewart's biographers put it.
1:21:48
SPEAKER_03: Every decision he made during the war was going to preserve life or cost lives.
1:21:52
SPEAKER_03: He took back to Hollywood all the stress that he had built up.
1:21:55
SPEAKER_03: In 1946, he got his break.
1:21:57
SPEAKER_03: He took the role of George Bailey, the suicidal father in It's a Wonderful Life, and the rest is history.
1:22:03
SPEAKER_03: Actors and crew of the set realized that in many of the disturbing scenes of George Bailey unraveling in front of his family, Stuart wasn't acting.
1:22:11
SPEAKER_03: His PTSD was being captured on film for potentially millions to see.
1:22:16
SPEAKER_03: But despite Stuart's inner turmoil, making the movie was therapeutic for the combat veteran, he would go on to become one of the most accomplished and love actors in American history.
1:22:24
SPEAKER_03: When asked in 1941 why he wanted to leave his acting career to fly combat missions over Nazi Germany, he said, This country's conscience is bigger than all the studios in Hollywood put together, and the time will come when we'll have to fight.
1:22:38
SPEAKER_03: So um while f and it says postscript, while fighting in Europe, Stewart's Oscar statue was proudly displayed in his father's Pennsylvania hardware store.
1:22:47
SPEAKER_03: Throughout his life, the beloved actor always said his father, a World War I veteran, was the person who made the biggest impact on him.
1:22:54
SPEAKER_03: He was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 85 and died in 97 at the age of 89.
1:23:00
SPEAKER_03: That is a class act.
1:23:02
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:23:02
SPEAKER_03: They don't make him like they don't make him like Jimmy Stewart.
1:23:05
SPEAKER_03: No.
1:23:05
SPEAKER_03: No.
1:23:06
SPEAKER_03: No.
1:23:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:23:06
SPEAKER_03: I I read that right before you got here and I was like, wow, I wonder if Doug knows that story.
1:23:10
SPEAKER_09: Well, I knew he was in, yeah, you know, I didn't know the extent of it, but I knew he was I knew he signed up for the war.
1:23:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:23:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:23:16
SPEAKER_09: So I mean Well, he's like uh like Ted Williams, the great Boston Red Sox.
1:23:20
SPEAKER_09: I mean he I mean he he fought in World War II and in Korea.
1:23:25
SPEAKER_03: Right.
1:23:25
SPEAKER_09: And was still one of the greatest baseball players ever to live.
1:23:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:23:28
SPEAKER_03: So that's a life, man.
1:23:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:23:30
SPEAKER_03: I mean that's that's a life well lived.
1:23:32
SPEAKER_09: Yep.
1:23:33
SPEAKER_09: And now his head's frozen for all of eternity.
1:23:35
SPEAKER_09: Cryogenics, right?
1:23:36
SPEAKER_09: Yes.
1:23:37
SPEAKER_09: So I don't know.
1:23:38
SPEAKER_09: So whatever, man.
1:23:40
SPEAKER_09: Whatever, trip trigger.
1:23:41
SPEAKER_09: Whatever, dude.
1:23:43
SPEAKER_09: Well, it was like the uh was what's his name?
1:23:45
SPEAKER_09: The the he he played with Snow Garden.
1:23:48
SPEAKER_09: He was a he was a grunge guitar player and then he left and joined uh the Green Berys.
1:23:54
SPEAKER_09: So I can't think of his name.
1:23:56
SPEAKER_09: Kim Thale?
1:23:56
SPEAKER_09: No, no, no.
1:23:57
SPEAKER_03: No, no, no.
1:23:57
SPEAKER_03: No.
1:23:58
SPEAKER_03: He wasn't he was he he was.
1:24:01
SPEAKER_09: I I don't know.
1:24:02
SPEAKER_09: Cause he I think he was just like a touring, you know, he'd go on and play a lot, you know, like fill in.
1:24:07
SPEAKER_09: Oh.
1:24:07
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:24:08
SPEAKER_03: No, I hadn't heard that story.
1:24:09
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
1:24:09
SPEAKER_03: Anyway.
1:24:10
SPEAKER_03: Alright.
1:24:11
SPEAKER_03: Well, I think it's a good time to end.
1:24:13
SPEAKER_03: Um that's uh that's episode 179.
1:24:16
SPEAKER_03: Are you sure?
1:24:18
SPEAKER_03: Yes, I don't have any more tangents.
1:24:20
SPEAKER_03: Do you have any more tangents?
1:24:21
SPEAKER_10: I got tons of tangents.
1:24:22
SPEAKER_10: Well, save them for next week.
1:24:24
SPEAKER_10: I don't want to.
1:24:25
SPEAKER_10: Write that down on your little notepad.
1:24:28
SPEAKER_10: Dear Doug, go on a tangent next week.
1:24:31
SPEAKER_10: Love Doug.
1:24:34
SPEAKER_10: All right, until then.
1:24:37
SPEAKER_10: Which is funny because I failed geometry.
1:24:43
SPEAKER_03: On that note, I'm O'Brien.
1:24:53
SPEAKER_09: I'm okay.
1:24:57
SPEAKER_09: I'm just I was just thinking about that time we were having dinner up upstairs.
1:25:02
SPEAKER_09: Finn was just young and he fell on fell out of his chair.
1:25:06
SPEAKER_09: He fell on the floor, and he said, all you heard was I'm okay.
1:25:11
SPEAKER_09: Again, a tangent.
1:25:14
SPEAKER_09: I'm good at it.
1:25:18
SPEAKER_09: I don't know where the coughing's coming from.
1:25:23
SPEAKER_02: Stop smoking.
1:25:24
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:25:25
SPEAKER_02: I'm okay.
1:25:26
SPEAKER_02: I'm O'Brien.
1:25:27
SPEAKER_08: I'm Doug.
1:25:27
SPEAKER_08: Bye everybody.
1:25:28
SPEAKER_08: I'm okay.
1:25:30
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