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Football at Four: Explaining Key Eagles Roster Moves · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  For more information, visit oceanac dot com. All Right, the
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  Eagles final initial fifty three, we like to say initial
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  fifty three Anaias Smith. We know Avery Williams, the kicking
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  punt return specialist. He is the latest. It looks like
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  a Nakobe Dean is going to be on the pup list,
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  he tweeted out. We'll see in week five. Not a
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  lot of other big names as of yet. Adam Kaplan
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  from the Inside of the Birds podcast set to break
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  it all down with us right now. As we know,
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  Anyas Smith is probably the biggest name of the day
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  so far, unless anything is crazy happened since you just
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  got onto the line there, Adam, Yeah, Mike.
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  Speaker 2: For those of us who really know what's going on,
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  we're really surprised by anything. Is that you kind of
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  know where things are headed now. There were kurve balls
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  in there, you know. Draft picks with Howie Roseman, the
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  Eagles chaneral manager. He likes to keep not always, but
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  they have a high percentage of keeping on a draft
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  text more than other teams. There might be a surprise
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  or two. You know you mentioned an I Smith will
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  not surprise me. Well, actually would be a surprise, but
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  wouldn't be a shock. If Cameron Williams, who's a right tackle,
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  who's a six runt pick out of Texas, whose Eagles
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  are very high on, I know you and have a
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  great summer. He's a developmental player. That's the one that
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  I think has a chance of surprising people. You know,
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  we've heard some stuff in the last week that he
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  actually may be on the roster. We'll see again. We
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  don't know yet, and we'll break in Mike as you
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  and I talk here if if once the Eagles announce
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  this stuff, you will be able to give you what
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  you need.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So obviously the one name today that I guess
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  had a shot that make the team was Smith. Did
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  the Mechi deal kind of seal his fate there?
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  Speaker 2: It did a kind of in a way when Howie
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  trades for a player, I mean, why would you cut him? Right? Yeah?
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  I think that had something to do with it, no doubt.
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  I went back and forth in an I Smith, I
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  had four iteration of my fifty three men roster. I
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  had him off three times and the last one I
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  had him on, So I didn't get that one. Right.
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  Here's the thing that disappointed me with a nice smith.
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  For all we heard about the specialty places from Texas
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  A and m never really saw it, Mike in training camp.
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  It's like with Avery Williams, who I did not have
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  my fifty three You know what Nick Siriati said about Oh,
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  you know, he kind of bragged about him at the
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  owners meetings. Never saw it in training camp, Mike. That
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  that to me is a big reason why I took
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  him off my fifty three men roster.
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  Speaker 1: All right, how about Avery Williams. I mean he obviously
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  was the guy that they signed possibly to be the
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  return man on this team. Just never really got any
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  traction that felt like during training camp.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's why I was just talking about Mike. Yeah,
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  that was Avery Williams. The thing is, let me just
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  add one thing with Avery Williams. This guy's a former
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  corner transition to receiver. They're so like he's a smaller
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  guy but got really good trudary quickness. And the other
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  thing that disappointed me was you didn't sign to be
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  a backup personal protector. They signed to return punts kit
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  and were kicks or both and to be a sort
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  of gadgety specialty receiver. Didn't see anything that I just
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  in By the way, Britain Covey was waved by the Rams.
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  I just wanted to add that part to what we
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  just talked about. Billan McMahon, by the way, for me,
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  Eagle was also waved by the Rams.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So some of the names that we obviously
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  know already we mentioned an I Smith, Avery Williams, and
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  then yesterday there were some names that already came out.
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  The one would be in the quarterback Kyle McCord. Kind
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  of get your thoughts on the quarterback situation. They went
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  out and trained for Sam Howe. Was that more they
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  just didn't like what they saw from McCord Or was
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  that more the injury where you know, Tan and Rakee
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  might not be able to play the first week or.
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  Speaker 2: So mccor wasn't not go to be on this football team.
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  I had nothing to do with with hel to start
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  to not Now, let me just explain something. You and
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  I have known each other for a number of years.
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  You know, I came up with the phrase you know
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  this Oney. I know Andrew de Chekoke said, jeffle Like
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  said OTAs or double a baseball. I put nothing into it,
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  literally nothing. Show me whatever you did in the off
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  season that you could do it in training camp. Well,
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  that was the problem with Kyle McCord. Couldn't do it.
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  Just did not look right in training camp. He's the
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  kind of guy, Mike, if he does not get the
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  ball out of the sands quickly, he just can't function
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  because he does not drive the ball down field at all.
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  And he just never looked good. To be honest with you,
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  That's why I did have him my fifty three when
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  the three of us did our show on Monday morning.
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  Couldn't put him on there. He didn't deserve to be
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  on it. I know he's a quarterback. Look, there's a
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  realistic chance he doesn't get claimed tomorrow. We'll know by
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  the waiver claims have to be in by twelve o'clock
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  one no, by twelve fifteen tomorrow whether he gets claimed.
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  But I just didn't see it, Mike. I gotta be
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  honest with you, I know that he goals were disappointed.
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  A lot of people who knew Kyle growing up from
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  the area just never happened for him, to be honest.
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  Speaker 1: With you, Yeah, and then you know, Eli Rix was
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  a corner. He's been here for a couple of years.
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  The fact that they got rid of him and kept
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  some of these other guys at a position that I
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  guess is not firmly decided yet, not a huge surprise there,
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  but it shows you that he was at least behind
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  the other group of guys that doesn't even have a
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  definitive winner right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is well, if the season starts, you know,
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  this week or next week, and it starts next week
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  and Dorry Jackson will be starting Op Metchell, But Mike,
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  it's not good enough. But Derriy Jackson's okay as a placeholder.
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  It's just not good enough. And we kind of know,
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  like Mike, we've talked about Rick Keey ring On now
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  for three years. If he's on the roster, it's because
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  he was drafted be it's because he'll play special teams
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  where he's really good. He's Ringo turned out to be
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  what exactly what I said, he would be at more
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  of a fourth corner if you have your brother, so
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  to speak. He just didn't perform and Dorriy Jackson's okay,
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  Ideally you'd rather better, Lens. He could still run, by
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  the way, that was a big thing for him. I'm
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  sure he could STI already can. But they're just not
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  good enough at that corner position. We've set it on
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  our show that there's they're looking into it to see
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  if they could find a corner. There'll be a potential
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  upgrade over Jackson. Doesn't look like it's happened. But let
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  me make this perfectly clear, Free Andcy is not over.
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  You have the rest in September October. You also have
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  the trade deadline. He Goles know that they have to
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  be better at corner opposite Mitchell. If the opportunity presents itself,
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  we know that we'll try to get it done.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see, all right. Adam Capell's here football at FO.
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  Nothing crazy so far yesterday. Kenyon Green, they obviously they
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  did trade for him. He was part of that CJ.
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  Gardner Johnson trade. But I got to tell you that
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  that has to tell you that he really must have struggled.
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  As you said, you traded for the guy. You didn't
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  even think to keep him around and further develop him.
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  Speaker 2: You nailed in mind. That tells transactions always tell a story.
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  If the team cut the player who's by the way,
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  subject to waivers, they clearly don't want him. It boy
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  Kenyan gree just never did anything and he rarely ran
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  with the twos, I think the land when he came
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  back he did from a shoulder injury. So yeah, it
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  just didn't work out. And with Gordon Johnson, the eighty
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  a half million mike, as we noted at the time
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  of the trade, like they were looking at shed cash
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  and then they drafted mccouba to replace it. But by
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  the way, could be one up being a better football player.
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  We look, the guy's never played in an NFL game
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  yet regular season. You got to see the thing through
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  before people overreact to that. He can't be better than CJ.
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  He actually has better size, he's a little bit longer,
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  he's got really good ball skills. But we're not gonna
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  know about mccooba. And by the way, he's come back
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  from me yet he's second injury. Now we're not gonna
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  know about him for a while. In terms of how
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  could of a pro.
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  Speaker 1: He'll be all right. So you mentioned a Covey got cut,
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  Avery Williams got cut, Anayas Smith got cut. Yeah, do
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  you go out and make a call to Covey. I mean,
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  who's the punt return the return man on this team
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  right now? Right?
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  Speaker 2: I know in fact that Jeff and I were texting
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  about this and we were kind of a joking like
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  why aj Dillon we know could return kicks as he
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  did in training camp. So that guy could come from
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  the practice squad. You just elevate him with its tailor
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  morn nice three claims. Waivers you signed to the practice squad,
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  they'll have somebody returning punts and kicks, Mike, That'll happen.
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  So those are the They'll literally be dozens of punt
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  returners on available Wednesday. They either not claim for waivers
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  who hit the street or veterans that are cut. But
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  it's a fair point. Well you got to get somebody now.
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  It doesn't mean Avery Warams won't go back to the
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  Eagle's practice squad. We'll see. They owe them a little
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  bit and there's some guaranteed money. But that Avery WILLMS
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  one definitely disappointing. I shouldn't listened to Siriani. I'm not
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  saying he did want Look, he made a statement he
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  thought he spoke about the guy for three minutes. He
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  clearly wanted something to happen. Yeah, but it never happened.
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  My competiti met she is. He couldn't do so. A
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  personnel guy told me he definitely could return punts if
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  you want him to, but that's not what you would
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  want him.
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  Speaker 1: To do, to be honest with there was a running
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  back that they got from San Francisco during one of
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  the oh like two years ago, that Sirianni singled out
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  and everyone's like, oh, he singled him out and then
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  he got cut. I can't even remember who ended up.
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  Did he played for the Colts.
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  Speaker 2: Last ty Davis Price, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that that's sermon.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes he actually did. Look here's what he got hurt.
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  If you remember he he it was I can't remember
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  now and I have to look it up. He definitely
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  got hurt, like the injury I was told was real.
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  Either got hurt in the preseason the regular season. I
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  don't remember then he You're right, Mike mentioned the Cults.
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  He actually went to the Colts and how to play
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  a little bit. But yeah, it's look at the time,
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  coaches say what they feel and it just never happened.
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  This free agency class, Mike Uh, for the most part,
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  has not quite worked out like the Eagles hoped it would.
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  Some are going to make it, like Matt Pryor, but
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  some really did not make it. Four or five of
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  these guys just simply if not performed.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, A couple of minutes left with Adam I
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  know the press conference is coming up in about five minutes. UH.
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  Killian Robinson, Montreal Johnson. Shun Derek Pale. They cut those
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  running backs. I would imagine that they're gonna stick with
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  Dylan will Shipley and obviously Saquon, But any of those
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  guys stand out enough that the Eagles would like to
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  try to bring him back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Montre Johnson, if he is not claimed off waivers,
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  I would expect him to try to sign him back. Now,
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  just understand, once you clear waivers, you're you're free to
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  sign with any team that you want to. I would
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  expect Eagles to have some competition for him. Montreal Johnson
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  can return kicks, by the way, e J. Jenkins. If
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  he clears waivers tomorrow, I certainly could see him sign
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  to the practice squad. And that. Now here's the other problem.
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  Now we don't know about Kylin Granson. He doesn't he's
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  an athlete. He doesn't block well enough. So, Mike, we
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  know that Jack Stolen Calcaterra filled in for two years
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  when Gotta got hurt. They need to find what's called
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  a y tight end and line tight end. Yeah, Jenkins
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  could do some of it. He's he's a better blocker
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  than Kaal Katerra, but cawpu Terra is a better football player.
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  Speaker 1: That's why Jenkins was cut, right, So there's a little
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  bit on the tight end situation there. And then really
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  the last thing, you know, Andre Sam was the name
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  I know Andrew liked him a lot. And that's another
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  spot safety where maybe they're not done kicking tires around.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Mike right now, and again, they haven't released it,
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  but we know it's it's Brown, it's blanket Ship, it's mccooba.
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  I'm probably Christian McCollum. You're never going to keep five
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  safeties unless one of them could play nickel. Now we
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  know mccooba could do it. They did not have them
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  do it in training camp. He played a little bit
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  of dime. I don't see them keeping five. I just
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  be surprised. I just don't see it. I'm McCollum over Sam.
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  Now we know San Andrew reported, Yes, you're the same
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  as cut.
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  Speaker 1: We don't.
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  Speaker 2: We're assuming mccoum made it. Again, Eagles have not released
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  their initial fifty three or we call the fluid fifty three. Yeah,
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  that's the best thing because it's going to change. It
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  always has, it always.
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  Speaker 1: Will, Mike, but it is for sure.
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking for just finding out. I think we're all met.
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  Jeff and Andrew had the sixty lineman with Joe Moos,
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  Carter Young and Gabe Hall. We're expecting that now as
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  he's a Jelaiy because of his contract, probably will make it.
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  But if he doesn't, boy, that would tell you they
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  clearly were willing to eat the money. That's going to
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  be a fascinating one. Whether it was a Laria makes it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. The last guy that you know had a little
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  bit of buzz was Terras Marshall and I guess you know,
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  could he be the uh who was the guy they
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  signed last year from the Colts? Another Colt guy that
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  I can't remember, the wide receiver that the veteran Campbell there?
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  Could he be a Paris Campbell?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? On the practice squad. My key, I'll tell you
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  what he was. He had great OTAs again off season
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  training camp, got up to a good start that and
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  got hurt and when he came back just didn't have
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  the juice that he once had. So to me, right now, Mike,
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  John Metchi, Darius could down unless they pull a surprise.
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  We we've been be expected for three weeks or actually
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  two weeks, Darius Cooper to make it should be at
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  receiver Brown Dotson, Smith Smith obviously Cooper Metchi and they
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  they may only keep five, Mike, they may only keep five.
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  We will see. Yeah, Actually, right now, I think five
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  seems to be fairly certain at this point.
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  Speaker 1: This is football. And four he's Adam Kaplan from the
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  Inside the Birds podcast, which you can get on all
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  podcasting platforms, with reaction to the initial fifty three, Adam,
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  appreciate it, man, that's en