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Episode 50: Theme Park Entertainment · Revelio: A Wizarding World Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to episode fifty of Vellio for August sixth,
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. I'm Amy and I'm Nicole. Fifty yep.
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  Speaker 2: I was just thinking we're like happy to one hundred, Like,
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  Speaker 2: oh you said that, I'm like, oh my.
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  Speaker 3: Goodness, how did we get here through a lot of
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  Speaker 3: hard work and dedications.
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  Speaker 1: And technical difficulties.
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  Speaker 2: Technical difficulties, yes, but man, I guess we should have
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  Speaker 2: like planned something for because fifties.
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  Speaker 1: A big milestone. We'll do something for a hundred. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like that's like, that's the real milestone.
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  Speaker 3: It's a milestone for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you to anyone who's done with us for
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  Speaker 2: all fifty episodes. Yeah, and if you're new, please stick
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  Speaker 2: around for the next fifty. So in this episode, we
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  Speaker 2: all be discussing shows and entertainment at the wizard World
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  Speaker 2: of Harry Potter theme parks.
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  Speaker 3: But first listening to w W in the Wizarding Wireless Network.
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  Speaker 3: Now for the latest headlines. So we do have a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of news this episode.
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  Speaker 2: I think, compared to what we've had the last couple
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  Speaker 2: of episodes that we've done, which makes sense, we are
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  Speaker 2: getting kind of close to back to Hogwarts time. We're
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  Speaker 2: like a month away from when we're recording this, so
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  Speaker 2: slowly I think we're going to start seeing things. So
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  Speaker 2: the first thing is, I guess, to nobody's surprise, this
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  Speaker 2: seems to be just a common thing that's going to
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  Speaker 2: keep happening from now until who knows when. But all
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  Speaker 2: eight Harry Potter films are rich turning to the theaters
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  Speaker 2: once again at the end of August, and we've got
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  Speaker 2: a first look at some of the like cups and
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  Speaker 2: popcorn buckets that are going to.
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  Speaker 3: Be available for purchase at the cinemas.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a Hogwarts suitcase popcorn bucket, a Hogwarts Express
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  Speaker 2: popcorn bucket, a Nimbus broom popcorn bucket, and it is
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  Speaker 2: actually like full size, which I still which is really
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  Speaker 2: funny because the account that account that I sent in
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  Speaker 2: our chat that showed the Nimbus popcorn bucket that same
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  Speaker 2: theater also showed the Trojan Horse popcorn bucket for the Odyssey.
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  Speaker 3: That thing is also behemoth.
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  Speaker 1: I just just the logistics of trying to hang on
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  Speaker 1: to this broomstick and like the handle and the top
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  Speaker 1: of the broom is the lid, So like you've got
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  Speaker 1: this huge thing, this really long stick that you're going
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  Speaker 1: to be trying to like take off your popcorn bucket
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  Speaker 1: in the theater. I don't know that they've thought this through.
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  Speaker 3: And not like hitting the people around you, Like it's
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  Speaker 3: just yeah, and I.
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  Speaker 1: Know that kids are going to take those in like
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  Speaker 1: have a sword fight in the middle of the movie.
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  Speaker 1: But the Nimbus Broom like.
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  Speaker 2: It, and I'm sure it costs like a ton. I
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  Speaker 2: just like I think that we're as a species, we're
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  Speaker 2: really really overdoing it with a popcorn bucket craze. This
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  Speaker 2: is no shade at all the people that love collecting
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  Speaker 2: popmarn buckets. They're so cool and I'm still sad that
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  Speaker 2: I never got the time turner one. But I also
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  Speaker 2: am like, gosh, I have no room for these things.
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  Speaker 2: I've got at least like four of them from Disney
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  Speaker 2: that just are collecting shelf space. So yeah, they all
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  Speaker 2: look really cool. I think the most practical one is
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  Speaker 2: like the Hobwart suitcase one because it just opens up
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  Speaker 2: and it's like a little lunch box kind of thing.
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  Speaker 3: The Howart's Express one.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know where that one opens up or like
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  Speaker 2: where the popcorn goes, But yeah, the nimbus one is insane.
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  Speaker 2: It looks really cool, but it's yeah, insane for a
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  Speaker 2: popcorn bucket. There's also going to be a few just
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  Speaker 2: like regular tin and like square popcorn buckets that have
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  Speaker 2: designs on them.
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  Speaker 3: There's also somehow themed tumblers.
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  Speaker 2: That have like house scarves, and then there's like a
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  Speaker 2: coordinating straw.
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  Speaker 1: And then these are very cute.
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  Speaker 3: I think they are really cute.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they have the like twenty five years of
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  Speaker 2: Magic logo on them as well. And then there's these
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  Speaker 2: other tumblers that they're calling molded lid tumblers, and these
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  Speaker 2: have like Hogwarts on them in the trio, and then
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  Speaker 2: just some other like Wizarding World emblems kind of in
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  Speaker 2: like a constellation y kind of vibe. And then on
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  Speaker 2: the lid, the like molded lid or whatever is there's
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  Speaker 2: one one that's like a womping willow and one that's
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  Speaker 2: an owl.
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  Speaker 3: It's like this just gold figuring. I don't know, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it detaches. I think it's just part
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  Speaker 2: of the lid. Yeah, they're interesting, Yeah, quite excessive, whether that's.
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  Speaker 1: Good or bad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot, but there's a lot if like,
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  Speaker 2: but the thing is, I know, like, yeah, if you're
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  Speaker 2: somebody that loves collecting this kind of stuff, there's so
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  Speaker 2: much issues from and it's really cool and it's just
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  Speaker 2: cool to see.
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  Speaker 3: As always like more Harry Potter stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously the twenty fifth anniversary and everything is coming up,
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  Speaker 2: so I think.
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  Speaker 3: They are going a little bit more all out for that.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm sure that my theater will have none
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  Speaker 1: of this, because every single time they have nothing, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like.
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  Speaker 3: Great, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And the problem that I run to before is that
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  Speaker 2: the theaters will start selling the like specialty popcorn buckets
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  Speaker 2: or cups before the showings even start.
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  Speaker 3: And this happened to me.
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  Speaker 2: I know, this happened to me when some of the
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  Speaker 2: Star Wars prequel films came back to the theaters for
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  Speaker 2: their anniversaries.
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  Speaker 3: I was so excited.
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  Speaker 2: To get like the popcorn bucket or whatever, and they
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  Speaker 2: were already all gone. And I went to like one
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  Speaker 2: of the first showings and I'm like, what do you
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  Speaker 2: mean They're already gone, Like I'm at one of the
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  Speaker 2: first showings, And it's because they put them out ahead
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  Speaker 2: of time, and people specifically will go to the theater
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  Speaker 2: and buy them. I think you should have a ticket,
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  Speaker 2: You should.
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  Speaker 3: Have tickets for the showing to be able to buy it.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, so I.
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  Speaker 2: Think that I know I've seen like regal posts that
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  Speaker 2: there the films are coming back to theirs. I also
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  Speaker 2: saw AMC, so I think that this will be pretty
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  Speaker 2: widely across whatever kind of theater you have in your area.
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  Speaker 2: The next thing, continuing on the celebrating the twenty five
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  Speaker 2: years of the Harry Potter Films theme, both Universal Orlando
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  Speaker 2: and Universal Studios Hollywood are celebrating with some limited time
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  Speaker 2: offerings in the parks. This is from August first, so
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  Speaker 2: this has already started at the time of recording and
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  Speaker 2: when this episode comes out, and these will be available
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  Speaker 2: through September first. I feel like they should extend that,
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  Speaker 2: Like I feel like it should to be exactly on
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  Speaker 2: September first, like let's just go through the third or something.
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  Speaker 2: So at Universal Orlando there will be a limited edition
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  Speaker 2: butter beer mug, and this one will have the twenty
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  Speaker 2: five years of Magic logo on it. There's some special
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  Speaker 2: food and beverage offerings, and there will also be the
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  Speaker 2: Hogwarts Always Castle projection show, which we'll actually be talking
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  Speaker 2: about a little bit later on more in our main
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  Speaker 2: discussion of this episode, There is also a Wizarding World
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  Speaker 2: of Harry Potter Build a Bed collaboration collection with Lug
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  Speaker 2: so you can customize a bag. You basically can pick
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  Speaker 2: different bags styles and then you can customize it with
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  Speaker 2: different straps and charms and accessories.
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  Speaker 3: This is becoming really popular.
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  Speaker 2: I actually just saw something very similar to this the
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  Speaker 2: last time I was at Disney, So this is really
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  Speaker 2: cool that there's like a Harry Potter one coming. And
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  Speaker 2: Lug bags are really good. They're really good quality as well.
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  Speaker 2: And this customize a bag thing is only available at
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  Speaker 2: the theme parks, so you do have to.
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  Speaker 3: Go to the theme parks to have access to this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a fun idea.
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  Speaker 2: I think so too, And it's nice that there's going
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  Speaker 2: to be I've seen like a bigger bag, but then
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  Speaker 2: I've also seen some people with like the like a
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  Speaker 2: little cross body beds.
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  Speaker 3: You can get a smaller bag too, and that would be.
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  Speaker 2: Really cool for like a theme park bed if you
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  Speaker 2: don't need to carry a lot with you and stuff well, and.
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  Speaker 1: And they already sell like so many cute key chains
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  Speaker 1: at the parks too, that like aren't necessarily part of
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  Speaker 1: this build a bag collection thing, but like you could,
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  Speaker 1: there's so many more options than it opens up too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, just fun.
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  Speaker 2: And then when it comes to some like treats, I
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  Speaker 2: saw that the Hogwarts like house ice lollies.
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  Speaker 3: Now I was not positive if they.
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  Speaker 2: Ever left, or if they've always just been available, or
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  Speaker 2: if they've just been available as part of like every
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  Speaker 2: year's back to Hogwarts. I know that during Butterbeer season
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  Speaker 2: they came out with like the Butterbeer ice lollies, so
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  Speaker 2: maybe these house themed ones weren't available and they're coming back.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if they ever really left, but what is.
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  Speaker 2: New is that you can now get them at Ministry
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  Speaker 2: of Magic and Epic Universe for the first time, so
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  Speaker 2: that is definitely new. But they're also still going to
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  Speaker 2: be available in Diagon Alley at Ternello's Elixir of Refreshment,
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  Speaker 2: so that little like water kind of stand over by Grengotts.
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  Speaker 2: And again, the flavors those ice lollies, So Gryffindor is
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  Speaker 2: a peach and strawberry, Hufflepuff is pineapple and milk chocolate,
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  Speaker 2: raven Claw is huffleberry and grape, which sounds disgusting, and
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  Speaker 2: Slytherin is coconut and macha, which is actually the one
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  Speaker 2: I would be the most intrigued to try, not just
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  Speaker 2: because I'm a Slytherin.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny, because the Hufflepuff one is like totally
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  Speaker 1: something I would eat too.
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  Speaker 3: I would like that one too, the Hufflepuff and Slytherin.
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  Speaker 2: It just my only thing with Hufflepuff is I really
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  Speaker 2: am curious because it's like, is it fruit based or
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  Speaker 2: like chocolate bae, you know, I think.
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  Speaker 3: Of like fudge, like the fudge sticles, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: With pineapple, where all the other ones seem more like
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  Speaker 2: fruit based, except for the Slytherin one. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if these are only going to be available
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  Speaker 2: through September first or if they're going to be available longer,
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  Speaker 2: but these are definitely available now as part of the celebration,
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  Speaker 2: and then also during this Back to Hogwarts twenty five
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  Speaker 2: years cell lebration, you can also meet the Hogwarts Express
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  Speaker 2: train conductor.
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  Speaker 3: Grab a photo.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like it's maybe a little bit of a
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  Speaker 2: different kind of I mean, you could always like walk
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  Speaker 2: up to him, but it seems like maybe it's more
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  Speaker 2: formal kind of like me and great thing and also
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  Speaker 2: have like a little dialogue and stuff with the train
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  Speaker 2: conductor as well.
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  Speaker 3: Again, I don't really know what's different about that than normal,
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  Speaker 3: but right, I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't know, it's part of what they're promoting, so again.
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  Speaker 3: Don't Yeah, so I feel like.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I think they're doing enough in
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  Speaker 2: celebration of twenty five years. But also like I guess
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  Speaker 2: I don't know like what else they would do other
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  Speaker 2: than just having like merch available and having like food.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I felt that way about twenty years too,
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  Speaker 1: Like I feel like they haven't really played up the
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  Speaker 1: anniversaries as much as they could have. Twenty was a
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  Speaker 1: huge milestone. I mean twenty five is big too.
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  Speaker 2: But like I think twenty is arguably bigger like those, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: those ones on the decade, I feel like they are bigger.
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  Speaker 1: I expected a lot more. I don't know, it's weird.
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  Speaker 3: I think even like.
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  Speaker 2: It's like there's not even necessarily a special production show
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  Speaker 2: because as we're going to talk about it seems like
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  Speaker 2: it's the show that's currently there, Right, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, there's those things available. I mean, I I
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  Speaker 2: did go to Universal last year. On September first, so
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  Speaker 2: the last day they did the back to Hogwarts stuff,
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  Speaker 2: and like there was really nothing different about anything really, So.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know, Like I feel like they
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  Speaker 1: should be running some sort of like deals on tickets
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  Speaker 1: or like.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I wonder if that's hard to do,
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  Speaker 2: because it's like the theme park is obviously more than.
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  Speaker 3: Just the world, and.
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  Speaker 2: So I just wish there was more like food, like
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe like some other special dishes and
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  Speaker 2: like the food places, or I don't know, maybe more
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  Speaker 2: merchandise that like has the twenty five on it. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: maybe there is, and I just haven't seen it. But
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  Speaker 2: the only thing that I've really seen is like this
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  Speaker 2: butter Beer likes dying.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, or like they do a day and it's like
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  Speaker 1: the first X amount of people to walk through diagon
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  Speaker 1: Alley get such and such exclusive merch item.
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  Speaker 3: Or there's like poster celebrating twenty five or something.
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  Speaker 1: Like something fun like that, or like the first people
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  Speaker 1: to ride the Hogwart six breast that morning, get yeah something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, it does seem a little lackluster, but
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  Speaker 2: either way, there's some different things. So I think if
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  Speaker 2: you're someone who goes a lot to like, it's always
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  Speaker 2: nice when there's some new things going on, but a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the things that we've seen before, I will
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I will say like they're The next bullet
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  Speaker 2: point I had here is that there's several new treats
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  Speaker 2: that have also popped up at sugar Plum Sweets Shop
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  Speaker 2: and diagon Alley.
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  Speaker 1: Really good.
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  Speaker 3: These look really, really good.
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  Speaker 2: I think this is the most exciting thing of like
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  Speaker 2: everything they've announced. What is really unclear is whether these
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  Speaker 2: treats are for this back to Hogwarts twenty fifth celebration
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  Speaker 2: or if these are going to be sticking around, is
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  Speaker 2: like permanent options, right, I really can't find anything like
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  Speaker 2: saying for sure. Obviously I just mentioned that they're saying
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  Speaker 2: they're special food and beverage options for this celebration, but
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  Speaker 2: I just, yeah, it's just not clear whether these are
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  Speaker 2: a part of that or not.
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  Speaker 3: I'm hoping that they're permanent.
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  Speaker 2: Because we get all those really cool treats at Honey Dukes,
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  Speaker 2: it would be really nice to have other options at
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  Speaker 2: Sugar Plums, and like you said, they all look really good,
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  Speaker 2: and it's nice to just have new treats when we've
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  Speaker 2: had kind of the same thing for a lot of years,
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  Speaker 2: but I think, I guess we'll have to wait and
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  Speaker 2: see if they stick around after.
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  Speaker 3: The first or not.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because there's Yeah, there's like a chocolate Frog brownie,
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  Speaker 2: which is the gluten sensitive option. There's like a Lemon
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  Speaker 2: Niffler tar, a cherry Fire Salamander tar, a Pygmy puff
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  Speaker 2: strawberry tart, a Hippogriff, BlackBerry and lavender tart, Pixie Blueberry tart,
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  Speaker 2: Blondie broomstick and snowy Owl trickle tait, Oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: treacle tart.
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  Speaker 1: The Hippogriff one sounds really good to me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of like lavender anymore,
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  Speaker 2: so that part throws me off like a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, that one looks good. I think the broomstick
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  Speaker 2: one looked really good to me. The Chocolate Frog Brownie
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  Speaker 2: sounds really good too. And I do like that there
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  Speaker 2: is like a gluten sensitive option. Of course, it's hard
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  Speaker 2: because there's a lot of cross contamination and stuff, which
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  Speaker 2: is why they're calling it gluten sensitive instead of being
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  Speaker 2: completely gluten free.
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  Speaker 3: But I like that there's a gluten.
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  Speaker 2: Sensitive option available, So yeah, I hope that these do
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  Speaker 2: stick around, because they're really fun and they do look
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  Speaker 2: really good, so I guess we'll see. Yeah, but they
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  Speaker 2: those are available in the parks now if you find
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  Speaker 2: yourself there over the next month.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to test them when I go, so
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  Speaker 1: I'll report.
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  Speaker 3: Back, yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: And also there was an announcement of Harry Potter and
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  Speaker 2: Tim Horton's well, we're just gonna stick on.
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  Speaker 3: The food train here.
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  Speaker 2: They are teaming up for an exclusive partnership starting August twelfth,
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  Speaker 2: so a few days after this episode comes out. So
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  Speaker 2: the announcement mentions a Golden Snitch Timbit, which is kind
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  Speaker 2: of like a Dunkin Donuts munchkin or like a donut hole.
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  Speaker 2: There is a sparkling patronis quencher. It's just described as aqua.
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  Speaker 3: Blue in color. I have no idea what flavor aqua
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  Speaker 3: blue is.
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  Speaker 2: And then it's topped with a white, cold foam and
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  Speaker 2: I think, as of right now, that's all we know
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  Speaker 2: about it, okay. And then there's four what they call
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  Speaker 2: enchantingly delicious flavors of Hogwarts House donuts, so the Slytherin
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  Speaker 2: don't it is chocolate and pistachio, which again is right
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  Speaker 2: up my alley, just confirming that I was always meant
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  Speaker 2: to be fliver. The Griffin Door donut is filled with
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  Speaker 2: strawberry cheesecake filling in topp with strawberry bark.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds good to.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously get the red.
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  Speaker 2: The Hufflepuff donut is lemon meringue, and the Raven claud
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  Speaker 2: donut is a blueberry filled.
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  Speaker 3: Donut.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, they've been doing a lot of these, like
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: they did Crispy Cream they did. Yeah, huh.
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  Speaker 3: I know, And I don't know if.
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  Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see because my nearest, like Tim Hortons,
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  Speaker 2: is in like a gas station that I have down
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  Speaker 2: the road. So I always like wonder if those kind
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: of locations will get these things right.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Because the Crispy around here that wearing gas stations did
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  Speaker 1: not get right any of that stuff.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, I guess we'll see more to see
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: on that. But that's exciting, especially if you're, you know,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: a donut fan. And the next thing I saw was
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: about just the Harry Potter audiobooks, and it looks like
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: they're now available on Spotify audiobooks as well, which is
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: really nice if you already pay for like Spotify Premium
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: subscription you do get I believe it's still ten hours
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: of listening of audiobooks a month as part of that
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: paid subscription, but then you can also pay, like you
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: can op your subscription to be specifically for Spotify audiobooks
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: to get more listening time. So I guess I didn't
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: realize that maybe the Harry Potter audiobooks were not on
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Spotify previously, but I don't know.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: I saw this and said, I.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Like audiobooks, so I'm gonna include this, So I believe
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: they're on there now, and they're currently doing very well.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: So according to Spotify reports, there was a five hundred
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: and fifty one percent surge and global listens to Sorcerers
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Stone during its first week on the platform, and the
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: US streams of Chamber of Secrets audiobook are up over
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: one two hundred percent.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: So that made me excited because I love audiobooks, and
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I love the Harry Potter audiobooks, and I could see
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: like having them on Spotify definitely could maybe open up
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: a new audience of people who don't typically like listen
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: to audiobooks, or don't search out audiobooks or don't want
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: to pay for a subscription to something like Audible, you know,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: or something like that. I just like when audiobooks become
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: more widely available to people because I think then people.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Listen to them. Yeah, sure, that's exciting. And then just
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: some merch news.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: So there is like I've seen a lot of different
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: merch kind of floating around. We always kind of see
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: merch kind of kick around this time of year because
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: we're getting into back to Hogwarts, like we said, and
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: the celebration, and so I didn't include everything here, but
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: because we always tend to talk about the new Lego
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: sets that are coming out, I figured I.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Throw that in. So there's a Ministry of Magic set
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: that's coming in September. It looks really cool. It's got
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: a lot of pieces to it.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: And there's also a mini Hogwarts castle that's coming late August,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: and so that.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: One's much more.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Doable, and I think it's also only like thirty something dollars,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: where the Ministry of Magic set is one of those
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: ones that costs a little bit more. But yeah, they
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: both look really cool, nice and somehow Lego I feel
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: like we always say this, but Lego seems to just
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: keep coming up with new eye sets and ideas even
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: after all these years. And the last bit of news
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: here that I included was just that we have gotten
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: a rating for season one, so the Philosopher's Stone of
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: HBO's Harry Potter series, and it has been rated TV fourteen.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: And I do think this is a really big deal
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: because we've talked a lot about wondering if the show
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: will be darker, more mature, and this kind of like
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: confirms that it will be because in comparison, so obviously
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: TV shows are rated slightly different than movies, but to
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: compare them, the Sorcerer's Stone film was rated PG, and
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: overall the Harry Potter films were rated PG or PG thirteen,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: which of course they were never going to get like
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: an R rated Harry Potter film, but like to the
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: fact that, like the TV show is already like a
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: higher rating than any of our movies ever got in
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: the way that you can compare them.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Again, it's not an actual apple comparison, and.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: We don't rate TV shows the same as movies, which
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: doesn't always makes sense.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: To me, especially streaming. Streaming the rules are a little.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Looser, right, right, So, but a TV fourteen rating is
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's saying that anyone under the age of
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: fourteen should have parental guidance, and that we're getting that
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: right from our Sorcerer's Stone, Philosopher's Stone, which arguably was
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: our most kind of g rate it. I mean, it
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: was obviously it had something that had to be PG,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: but it was way more.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Child friendly than a lot of the other movies.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's interesting this rating because, like you said,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: obviously the film was only PG, which I feel like
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: worked for the film.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: There were some dark moments.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the book, you could read it and enough was
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: glossed over that it could be suitable for a younger
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: audience as a children's book, but.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: There's also so much there that, like I think, when
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: you're a little bit older and you read it, you
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: kind of realize, Yeah, and those aspects, I would assume
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: are what's going to be expanded on to make it
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: this higher rating. And Plus, if we're seeing things that
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: initially in the books and in the movies take place
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: off screen, like we've been talking about, those are those
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: moments that do have more potential for more violence, more
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: disturbing imagery, all that stuff, so that it makes sense
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: to me that it is going to be higher rated
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: if you're including all that stuff that was sort of
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: left out and kind of left to the side and
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: for your brain to fill in to keep it kind
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: of suitable for a younger audience. So it makes sense.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: I think it also makes sense with like just the
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: vibes of that first trailer that we got, I mean,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: it does not open in happiness and anything. So yeah,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I think too that. I mean, I'm
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: happy for this because I think we've talked about, like
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: I a lot of the people that I think will
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: be the prime audience of this series are going to
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: be those of us that grew up with.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: It, and we are all older now.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: And so it'll be really I think it'll be nice
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: to have a I mean, yes, it's still a children's
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: story at the end of the day, right, but like
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: as we've talked about, there are a lot of really
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: mature themes in there, and so it'll be nice to
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: have that kind of like mature version of the story,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: I guess especially, I think that also helps to separate
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: it too from the films. If they're going to take
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: that more mature.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Tone with the.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Series, it is it is going to obviously be similar
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: because it's the same story but very different vibes, I think,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: which I'm all about so really curious to see because
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: if we're already starting at Philosopher's Stone being TV fourteen, like,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: what is going to happen as we progress through the story?
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess we'll see.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Which I mean, this is going to show my ignorance.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Can you get a higher rating than TV fourteen for TV?
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: So when that just jumps straight to like X or whatever,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: this which is not going to be right really bad
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: to get there.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: So I was just trying to google it really quick
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: and I couldn't.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Really find a really good answer to that.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, TV mature.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: TV mature, Yeah, that's right.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that, which is but I.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Mean, but look at okay, this is this is why
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: this is crazy And I thought this was news newsworthy
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: because so for those of you that are not familiar
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: with the television parental guidelines in the United States, there
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: there here's what they here's what they are, right, So
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: there are several before you get to TV fourteen. So
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: there's TV why, TV Y seven, TV Y seven FV
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: no idea.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: What that means for fantasy violence.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay, okay, TVG TVPG, which is.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Generally actually what I thought that this would be rated
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: TV fourteen and then tvm A. Yeah, so we're already
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: at almost the highest Yeah, waiting.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: So TV fourteen is parents strongly cautioned for children under fourteen,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: and TVMA is mature audience only generally unsuitable for anyone
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: under seventeen.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: I bet you the whole series ends up being TV fourteen.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Yes, it has to escalate a lot to get TV mature.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Usually in the US TV mature.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I mean I watch a lot of TV mature shows.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I think, like I mean, things like Game of Thrones
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: are TV mature. There's a lot usually if there's sex,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: yeah that sexual violence, depictions of sexual violence, anything like that.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: So think of your yeah, things of things like your
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Game of Thrones, those are things on in the HBO
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: realm that meet the TVMA category.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I just still think it's interesting because I definitely thought
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: that the first season would get a TVPG, yeah, which
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: is parental guidance suggested may contain material unsuitable.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: For younger child.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I guess we'll see. I just I
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: saw that and I thought, I was really surprised by that.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: So yeah, and I think for the most part, that's
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: it for the news.
• 29:19
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• 29:41
  Speaker 1: so for our main discussion, we wanted to talk about
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: the different shows in entertainment at the Universal Theme parks.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: This is primarily Orlando focused because Hollywood only has Hogsmeeed,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: So basically entertainment in Universal Orlando Wizarding World sections. So
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: starting off, we'll start in Hogsmead. We have two shows
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: that share the same stage area in Hogsmeads, So we've
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: got the Frog Choir and we've got the Tri Wizard
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Spirit Rally. Now, both of these are located on that
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: stage that's like just under the castle. As you're walking
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: up to the castle, there's the stage there. The Frog
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Choir features four Hogwarts students, one from each house and
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: their frog companions. And basically what this show is is
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: the students sing or beatbox slash hum songs from the
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Wizarding World, and the frogs croak along and accompany them.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: It's very cute. You can catch it daily in Hogsmead
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: at the stage. You can check the app for show times,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: but it's usually every other hour.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it alternates with the Spirit the tri Wizard
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Spirit Rally.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe it does. Yeah, if I'm remembering correctly.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: But no, Yeah, this show is really cute and I
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: really like the show. The singers are all very good
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: and it is really cool how they bring in like
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: the beatboxing and everything like that, because they're singing.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Like pretty like a cappella.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: I think there's maybe some like music and I can't remember, God,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: why can't remember if there's like a track in the
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: back or if they Yeah, I think it's all acapella.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: I might be confusing with Celestina. But yeah, so that's
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: really cool. And they also do some like little jokes
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: a little bit kind of you know, not verbal jokes,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: but like just kind of jokingly with each other as
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: they're singing, and it's I think it's a really fun show.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: They always do the one try Wizard song the so
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: then the other show that's on the stage, the Try
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Wizard Spirit Rally. You've got Hogwarts, dirm string, and bubbaton
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: students who are trying to hype up the excitement for
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: the Try Wizard Tournament. It features dancing with some very
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: familiar choreography. Got the dorm string guys with their their
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: little staffs, and like we mentioned, this alternates with the
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: frog Choir, so it's in the same place. If one
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: happens on one hour, you can be pretty sure that
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: the other will happen on the next hour. This one
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: does end with a really cute photo op too that
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: you can get with all the students.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, this one's really cool too. And I'm
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: always like super impressed with especially the guys and like
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: the derm string section, because especially when it's like really
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: hot out and they're wearing like those really heavy, like
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: brown full body costumes and they're like twirling or no
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: one that means that the bulbatons are like really up
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: there twirling, but like.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Just up there with not it's not like, I don't
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: know what's the word I'm looking for. They're not doing
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: like acrobatics.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: That's a little bit more like break dancing kind of or.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: That, or like martial arty Yeah, it's it's kind of
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: got martial arts vibes to it and.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Very choreographed.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: And I've seen it before where like they were short
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: a person and like just the way that they like
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: adapted the choreography to just have one less of.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Them was really interesting.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: And then yeah, the Bobaton section is a lot of
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: twirling and a company with our famous and it's really
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: funny because you can tell the people in the audience
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: that like maybe aren't as familiar with like Harry Potter,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: because they just really get kind of like like almost
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: like awkward es very uncomfortable, very uncomfortable, and you can
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: just that you can just tell who hasn't really seen
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: the movie and isn't getting the reference.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, this is a really cool show too.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So then at night, we've got some nighttime shows
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: that take place in Hogsmead as well. We've got the
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: projection shows where they do the projection mapping on Hogwarts Castle.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: And these shows don't have a set start time, but
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: they just kind of start whenever it gets dark, depending
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: on when that is throughout the year. So you head
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: into Hogsmead and you'll get directed in the direction of
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: the castle there are ropes that get set up to
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: try and help the flow of the crowd. If there's
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: a current showing happening at that moment, you'll be held
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: in the lower part of hogsmeadth Street until that crowd
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: from that showing is cleared out, and then they'll move
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: the next group up.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: I would say the good thing about this one is,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: although there's not like a designated start time, it does
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: happen a few times periodically from when they started until
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: when the park's closed.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: So if you miss it the first.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Time, just like hang around and like Amy said, they
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: kind of like will shuffle the cloud up and they
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: kind of funnel you out through Juraffic Park area over
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: like that bridge, and then you can then kind of
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: come up and be in that next group.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it does run pretty continuously, so there's definitely
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: lots of chances, and there are several different versions of
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: the projection show that happen. A lot of these are
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: at different times of the year. One of them is retired,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: as I recently found out, So that retired one is
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: the Nighttime Lights, and this premiered in twenty eighteen. This
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: is the one if you've seen it It's narrated by
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: the sorting Hat and it shows different projections for each
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: of the houses. This is the one that I remember
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: seeing way back when. It is very cool. It's fun
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: to hear the sorting hat.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, people cheer when they you know, when they do
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: each house and it gets to your house, then.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's cute. But what I didn't know until I
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: was researching for this episode, and I feel really dumb
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: about this.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: No, don't feel dumb, because Amy texted me and I
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: was like, wait, what so I also.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: I'm the same as you.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: I missed this memo entirely. Okay, So every time I've
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: been to the parks in recent years, in the past
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: what two years, yeah, two years, I have skipped out
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: on the light Show, except for the time that I
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: went at Christmas and I watched the Christmas Light Show,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: which we'll talk about. But the other times I just
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: like didn't watch the light Show because I was like, well,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I've seen it. It's the sorting Hat one, Like, I've
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: seen it a ton of times. It's fine, I'll go
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: to dinner. Apparently I've been missing the new light Show
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: since twenty twenty four, so as of twenty twenty four.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: The Light Show is now this new Hogwarts Always Light Show,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: which is currently playing now through September. First for that
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Back to Hogwarts Month. Yeah, so this show I had.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I looked up some of it on YouTube. I didn't
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: watch through the entire thing because I actually am going
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: to go watch it now that I know that it's
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: new and I don't want to totally spoil it for myself.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: But basically, it takes you through a school year at Hogwarts,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: from getting your acceptance letter to the awarding of the
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: House Cup at the end. And it actually has different
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: endings based on who wins the House Cup, which is
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: kind of fun.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: So they determine who wins the House Cup.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess it's just different each time
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, make nice slitter and fireworks.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, yeah, I've never seen this one either.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: I'm guessing this is the one that was happening the
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: last time you and I were at Universal and we
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: were back in the hotel every night by the time
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: of the show, yes, because we assumed it with the one.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: We've already seen a million times and it wasn't.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, unfortunate, but I will remedy that situation,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: I will tell you at that point. So also I
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: guess what kind of made that happen in a way
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: of going two years and missing that is these shows
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: changed by the season as well, so like not all
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: of my trips would have been timed with that show
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: going on anyway, So I don't feel quite as bad
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: because come like middle of September. In October it becomes
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: the Dark Arts Show. So this one obviously corresponds with
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: the Halloween season and it features dementors, death theaters Baltimore,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: et cetera. And then we get to my favorite castle show,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: and that is the Magic of Christmas Show. I love
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: this one so much. So it's obviously very festive. It's
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: around Christmas season. Get like snow falling on the castle,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: the ghosts singing their Christmas Carol from the first film,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: which is so cute. You've got the yule ball dancers,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: You've got Christmas trees popping up in different turrets. This
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: one usually starts running in November and ends like the
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: first or second week of January usually, but this one's
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: really fun. Hogwarts looks so pretty with the snow on
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: the rocks and everything highly recommend.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I really like this one and I love the.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: So I might be I don't think I'm confusing it.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: But at the kind of towards the end, I really
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: like how Hogwarts looks with this one, and it's probably
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: because of the snow. Yeah, I'm remembering the right one,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: but yeah, this one is really nice.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's got like all like the twinkle lights
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: and then like they put the Christmas tree up in
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: the highest turret. Its yeah, it's really pretty okay. So
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: then moving over to diagon Alley, we've got quite a
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: bit going on here. First step, we've got Celestina Warbeck,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: who has two different shows, the regular show and the
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Christmas Show. We're not going to talk about the Christmas
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: show too much because you know, spoiler for ahead in
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: a few months we are going to talk about Christmas
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: in the Worstening World in general, so just yeah, talk
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: about it then. But the regular show for Celestina is
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: located on the stage in Carget Market in diagon Alley,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: which is the area underneath like the covered overhang thing.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: The show happens pretty much every hour or two, and
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: you can check the app again for specific day show times,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: and the show is Celestina and the Banshees, which are
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: her backup singers, and this is just a really really
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: fun show and the performers are incredibly talented. I've seen
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: several different Celestinas and they're all amazing. Yeah, they're so great.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: They get like fully in character and just like are
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: that visiting world diva and it's it's great. The songs
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: are really catchy and witty and they've got like magical
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: lyrics and puns going on in them. A fan favorite
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: moment from this show is when they select an audience
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: member to join them for you charmed the heart right
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: out of me. And it's usually some like dad on
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: vacation with his family.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, usually some like middle age dad who's
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: just along for the ride.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: And yeah, Palestina.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Picks them up and he always looks so uncomfortable at first,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: but then as soon as they get to that, like
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: right when they.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: Get to them, every time they eat it up, they're like, yes,
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: this was my it.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: I've been waiting for this my entire life.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: It's so cute. I love it. And then obviously we
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: mentioned the Christmas Show. The Christmas Show features different costumes
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: and a new holiday setlist, so the songs are all
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: holiday themed and it even snows during one of them.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: It's just a lot of fun.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love Celastina, and I think that one thing
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: too about a lot of these shows is even if
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: you've seen it before, like I always like to recommend
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: going to see it again because you're not I think
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: some people like will think it's just the same show
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: every time, but like the setlist can be slightly different
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: in the next show that we're going to talk about.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: That does change a little bit throughout the day. So yeah,
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: I always recommend even if you're like, oh, I already
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: saw Celistina today, I'm going to skip it, Like I
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: don't know, maybe stay and watch it again because you
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: might get a different song that you didn't get before.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: It's funny too, like looking around the crowd during the
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Celestina shows, you see the people who have been there
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: like fifty billion times because they're all singing along. Yeah,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Like Celestina has her own little like fan club. So
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: then the other show that happens here on the same
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: stage in carget Market is The Tales of Beatle the Bard,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: So just like over in Hogsmead, the two shows here
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: in Diagon rotate throughout the day. So the tales of
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Beatle the Bard, they retell selections from Beatle's Book of
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Fair Tales, and they tell two different stories. So this
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: will change depending on the show times, so you could
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: either see the Fountain of Fair Fortune or the Tale
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: of the Three Brothers. So the concept of this show
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: is that this is like an act troop and they're
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: like dedicated to their art and they use these puppets
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: to tell the story, and the puppets are really really cool.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love this show. This is actually probably I
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: guess maybe like spoiler alert, like probably like my favorite
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: show across the whizzarding world. They maybe we'll talk more later,
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: but and I always get I really like seeing both.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: I get really excited when they do tell the Three Brothers,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Like I get really excited when I catch Tell the
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Three Brothers because I really love that one. But Fountain
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: a Fair Fortune is great too.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, So then we move over to Epic Universe in
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Place Cachet, where the first sort of show situation we
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: have is the jazz band. So the Place Cachet Jazz
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Band comes out periodically throughout the day. There's no schedule
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: for I don't believe I've never really checked for one,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: but I think they just kind of pop up when
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: they pop up, weather permitting. And they play in the
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: space rate by Cosme's wand Shop in front of that
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: statue from Crowns of Grin the Bald. And these are
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: live musicians who are really playing, which is crazy. They're
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: super talented. There's a trumpet, trombone, and clarinet, and they're
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: accompanied by this like magical music box thing with Plume
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: the puff Schemes sitting on it and Plume just kind
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: of like bops out to the music. He's so cute.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: They play nineteen twenties style jazz, some of which will
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: sound familiar to fans of The Fantastic Beasts films.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I really.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: I like the like the vibe. I guess that this
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: sets like I really like three performs. They're basically like
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: a free performer, right, and I think that that's well
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: even though they don't kind of like walk around, it's
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: really nice because you just don't know when you're going
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: to catch them, and then you kind of hear them
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: and everyone kind of just gathers and it just I
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: just like street performers in general, and I think it's
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: really cool too that they also have incorporated, like you said,
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: some of the songs from the Fantastic East films and
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: they're in that jazz style as well.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's just really cool.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're fun, Like they have banter that happens
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: between songs too, Like they talk about some night that
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: they played at like a jazz club in New York
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: City and like stuff, and like they talk about I'm
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: pretty sure the one time I was there, they name
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: dropped the blind Pig, which is a fun little reference. Yeah,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: So they're just fun. I just love the puff scheme
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: so much.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's super cute.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: And I think it's nice too because obviously every show
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: the performers are like in character, but there is something
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: like different about the like character moments in Epic Universe. Yeah,
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: I mean that was part of like with that part,
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: something that they wanted to do with that park. But
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: it feels different than like Celstine like Stina, maybe because
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: cel Astina is like on a stage and.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: Everything and this one's more like that street performer.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I really like that they have that moments
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: of kind of like banter and talking and just like
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: those character moments rather than just coming out and you know,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: playing music, it makes it just seem more real. Yeah,
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: like you're really seeing this magical traveling band on the
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: streets of Paris.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: So then I didn't list the other like character interactors
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: because I don't know that I would categorize them as shows,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: but like, yeah, the yeah, same sort of deal. I
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: mean they pop up when they pop up, and it
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: is really fun to have the interactions with them. You've
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: got obviously the Hogwarts student, the Bubbaton student, an ilver
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Morny student, and then you've got the French or you've
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: got Cosme in the wand Shop. So yeah, it's just
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: it's very like immersive and all of them are really
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: good at playing their roles. So yeah. So then our
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: last show, and I think we've saved the best for last,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: is Cirque Arcnou, which I can't get over the pronunciation of.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: This because always be canas.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: It's always just going to be our canas to me,
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: which sounds so ridiculous.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Now, but that's, yeah, my my American pronunciation.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say it sounds very like English American pronunciation,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: so now it does sound ridiculous that we all thought
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: it was arcane, but sorry, Arcanis Arcanis, Yeah, it is
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: our canoe.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: From New York. It's our canis.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: See and we're from New York, so it makes sense, right, exactly.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which we obviously talked a ton about this show
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: in episode twenty three where we talked about our trip
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: to Epic Universe, but just to reiterate, you know, this
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: show is inside the Circus tent. It's located right in
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: the crossroads of Place Cachet, So you see that tenth
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: straight ahead as soon as you come through the arch
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: into the Ministry of Magic section. Showtimes are staggered throughout
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: the day. I believe it's like every hour. It's pretty
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: there was.
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's definitely quite a few shows.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you can always catch up.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: Yea every hour and a half something like that.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And every time I've been the theater's been full,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: which is kind of amazing that, like, you know, they're
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: doing that many showings, but everyone is full. So when
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: you enter the line, it takes you into the tent,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: where the interior of the tent looks like it's been
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: magically extended to be larger than the exterior, and it's
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: like I obviously know how they do this, and like
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: you can just logically like know how that happens, but
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: it's just still so.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Cool because I think even if you logically know what's happening,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like that's what's happening, right, Like, it
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: literally does feel like you're entering just in this little
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: tent that you just see and it just somehow keeps
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: going bigger and bigger and bigger.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: And so they, yeah, they did a really good job
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: with that because you.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Just you do forget about the like logics and the
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: logistics of it when you're experiencing it.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it's very cool. So all throughout the line
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: there's a ton to look at. You've got all sorts
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: of posters of magical creatures. You've got like the circus advertisements,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: the popcorn machine and all that stuff. Once you kind
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: of funnel through the tent line, you end up in
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: a big open room and that's the pre show room,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: and the pre show really sets the stage for this
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: whole experience, which I don't want to get too spoilery,
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: but like I am going to talk a little bit
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: about it, So if you want to know nothing, maybe
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: like skip ahead a.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: Bit, but.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: Basically you meet a couple of house elves that are
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: working at the circus. You meet Skender, the ring master
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: who we saw in the Fantastic Beast movies. You meet
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: his assistant, Gwenlyn, who is an original character invented specifically
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: for this show. So basically, in the pre show, you
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: find out that Skender has stolen News Commander suitcase in
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: an effort to return magical creatures to his circus since
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: the show has been tanking in profits since Newts set
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: all of the circus creatures free. After the pre show,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: you enter the show area with cease pointing towards the stage.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: There is plenty of seating, so like a ton of
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: people can get in here. And it starts out with
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: like typical circus acts with a magical twist. There's a
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: clown who's blowing bubbles and like making shapes with them.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: There's an acrobat with a broomstick. But one thing leads
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: to another. The actual circus gets interrupted. Gwen opens new
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: suitcase and you end up inside the case, and that's
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: kind of the moment that the show really really really shines,
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: when you're transported into the case. And all of the animatronics,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: the puppets, They're just all so amazing to look at.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: This show is just like I don't know, I don't
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: know how they're going to ever top this. I'm sure
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: they will because technology is going to keep getting even
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: better and better and better, but like this show is
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: so cool.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah and yeah, and this was like t All the
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: Three Brothers like used to be my favorite show until
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: like this show happened. And I am like really excited
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: to see the show again because I've still only ever
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: seen it once.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: I've only been to Epic Universe.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: At one time, so I'm really excited to see it
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: because I feel like it will feel like seeing it
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: again for the first time, because when you haven't seen
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: it in a really long time time, Like I remember
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: the show, but there's definitely, like I think, probably parts
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: of it that I don't fully remember, and I do
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: think I will say. One thing I like about this
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: show too, is that the pre show in and of
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: itself is really good too. Yes, It's it's so crazy
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: to me that, like, you have such a good pre
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: show that just then leads into like just an even
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: better show. It just keeps getting better and better and better,
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: And I do like that they didn't just automatically make
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: it like a fantastic bat show. Like I like that
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: it has that the pre thing where you're like, it's
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: like you went to go see a magical circus and
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: you're seeing these acts and it's real circus acts, like
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: you said, and then it just kind of then becomes
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: the show element of it.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: And I like that it's not just like something ripped
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: right from the movies, like to kind of go along
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: those lines.
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: Like, I like that they developed a believable like continuation
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: of the story in Skender's direction, because like, yeah, what
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: did this guy do after all of his.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Creatures were set loose? Like the circus wasn't very good anymore,
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: so he had to figure something out. Yeah, So I
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: do really like that.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the thing that's I think the most
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: cool about this show is it's definitely just very immersive,
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: which fits the theming about the universe and the more
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: immersive entertainment.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I agree. I don't know how they'll ever.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: Top that show with something else if they open another
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: park that requires a show.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. They better not ever get rid
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: of this one, or I'm gonna like ryot.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: I mean they definitely can't, because like, right, the Circus
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: is part of Epic. But I do wonder if, like
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: after X amount of years, will they want to change
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: it or was that space like really built and curated
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: for this specific show. I always worry about that because it's,
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: like you want to It's like this fine balance between
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: wanting people to keep coming back to see a show
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: that they fall in love with and they really like
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: and you're excited about, and also balancing Okay, we've been
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: running this particular show for five years at this point,
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: like we need to freshen this up so that people
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: keep coming back.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: Here, so it'll be interesting to see.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: I guess how they navigate that is the park ages,
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: but I mean the other shows in the other parks
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: have been.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: They've been there, the same shows for.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: Ten, fifteen years now, whatever it's been. Yeah, I think
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: from like a merchandising standpoint too, they sell so much
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: merch from that show of all the creatures, Like I
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: mean everyone rushes the little cart when they exit the
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: circus show with all the moon calves and the Kelpie
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: and the Demi guys, So like, yeah, I don't think
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: it will be a spark idea to get rid of it, but.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: No, and I mean and I think that they would
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: never be able to just completely get rid of the
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: show and not replace it with something there because I
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: think as we talked about like when I think maybe
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: we talked about this when we were doing our review
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: of Ministry.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: Of Magic and Epic Universe, is that one.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: I think I don't want to even call it a
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: negative or a con because I don't think it's that severe.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: But there isn't a lot in that particular park other
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: than obviously doing like the magic and going in all
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: the shops and everything. But I'm also thinking about like
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: your casual park goer and what would attract them, and
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: that is things like rides and shows, and you basically
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: have one ride and you have one show. So you know,
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: I don't think that they could ever get rid of
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: having a show there because then what are you literally
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: just have one ride and some restaurants and stuff. That
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: just doesn't work for a theme park. But yeah, I
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: could see them maybe changing the show eventually, but I
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: don't know, because I feel like that space was really
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: built for that particular show, and they obviously put a
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: lot of time and effort, and I'm sure money into
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: the animatronics and the puppets and the special effects and
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: everything that are part of that show. That I could
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: see them just continuing to run it indefinitely unless it, yeah,
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: things start breaking or it becomes hard to you know,
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: to maintain it.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: I think for these types of things, I don't think
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: that we would see them go away necessarily, like not
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: in that short amount of time, like I'm thinking about
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: like stuff like the Jaws ride, or like the Lost Continent.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Stuff like that was after a very very long time,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: like that wasn't like a five ten years We're done,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think the good thing is is that
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: the Wizarding World areas are such a substantial section of
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: these parks that I don't think they're really at risk
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: for like going away. Like obviously, like right, Jaws, Okay
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: went away for the sake of actually Harry Potter. But
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: the reason why we have Diagonaley where we have it
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: is because they got rid of Jaws.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: So I think.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: That that at least has it going for it, Like
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: I don't think they'll ever come to a point where
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: they're like, well, we need to rip down this Harry
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Potter section of the park, so we can put something
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: different there.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: I don't want to say never, say never.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Because that could happen in fifty years, but I think
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: it'll be I think it'll be around for a while.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: I think, if anything, we'll see more things added to
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: that park maybe before we start seeing things changed or
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: changed like take it away.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: So I just looked it up and Jaws was open
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: for twenty one years, Poseidon's Fury was open for twenty
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: four years. So yeah, they keep things for a very
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: long time before they finally are like okay, And.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, and I think too, like, you know, I
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: will say that because you know, again, it wouldn't I've
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: already brought in other things a million times this episode.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: I was like, it wouldn't be an episode of Rebellia
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: without me bringing up a comparator from something else, right,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: I think that thinking about Disney right, like, we're seeing
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of changes in the Disney parks right now.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: Things that have been around for a really long time,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: and people that are really big Disney Parks fans.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: Do really struggle with those changes. I'm one of those
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: people that's.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: Really struggling with some of those changes, but at the
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: same token, like you know, Walt was really big on
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: like these parks need to always like change, always be moving,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: like it should never be just in stasis.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: And I think that that mentality.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Does extend to theme parks in general, because it's like,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: again this fine line of balancing like nostalgia.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: Of what we have in this park and also.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: Knowing that as time keeps moving on, new things are
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: going to come out and new things are going to
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: become more popular. And we've gotten very lucky that thirty
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: years later, Harry Potter is.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: Still just as big.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: But that's also like I feel like more of like
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: a rarity to like still be just as popular, like
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: you know, thirty years later.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: So I think that we won't see things like change
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: in a while for a while for sure, but it
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: makes sense.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: I think that over time Jaws kind of succumbed to
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: building an area about like no, I don't want to
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: see it, say like a bat. I mean to me,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: it's a better area, but like but like an area
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: that is better for the park and more revenue for
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: the park. And it makes sense that eventually, like Poseidon's
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: Fury like did kind of go as well, because I
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: wonder if just over time they just started seeing less
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: and less attendance. So I would be really interesting to
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: see if I think Epic Universe is still so new
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: and that a lot of the people that are going
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: to Epic Universe are still first timers to Epic Universe.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: So I think that's you know, to your point when
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: you said, like it seems like they're still filling up
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: the shows every time, because I think it is still
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of new people. But like, on the same
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: side of that, though, in the older parks, the shows
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: that they do at.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: The older parts still are full.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: I mean when I'm at studios and I go to
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: like the Horror Makeup Show, it is full every single time,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: And that show has been around for a really long
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: time too, so people still stop and watch Celestina, people
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: still watch the Rally, So I think that.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: I think just how cool that show is too.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: Is enough to keep people like coming back and being
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: excited to see that show every time they find themselves,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: you know, at.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: Epic Yeah, for sure, So.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: I think it'll be protected for a while.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: But I'm also very curious to see, like, yeah, what
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: do you do after that show has been running for
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: fifteen twenty years.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a really cool show.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: I want to watch it again.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: I really want me to see it again because, like
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: I yeah, there's like specific moments that I can like
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: very vividly recall from seeing it. I do remember like
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: crying and getting like really emotional, and I remember like
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: the end, but there's some things in the middle that
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: I don't fully remember.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: So I'm excited to see it again.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I got to plan another trip. Darn.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: This is for the sake of the podcast podcast research.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: All right, Well that's it for our main discussion on
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: the shows. Yeah, that's all of them at this current
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: moment in time.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: And actually, speaking of what we were just saying, I
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: wonder if they'll end up doing like a Christmas e
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: thing ad Ministry of Magic, because we do see obviously
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: we talked about Celestina get a little bit of a
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Christmas makeover, the Hogwarts projection show gets a Halloween and
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: Christmas inspired makeover, and we're obviously very new to Epic
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: Universe being part of the Christmas season, so it'll be
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: really interesting to see if we eventually get like a layover,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: like holiday layover kind of thing.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: The jazz.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, the jazz performers really cool. Yeah,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: I think I could totally see that.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess we'll see get on that universal.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the easiest thing for them to introduce first
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: is obviously the decorations and introduce some like Christmas songs
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: for the jazz band.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Sonny, So.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: Last episode we asked who is worse, Grindelwald or Valdemore
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: and got some interesting responses and I think maybe we
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: still don't fully know in the end.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: It's too hard to decide.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: But the and and actually speaking on that, the Leaky
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: Cauldron left us a very fitting giff on Instagram of
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: just a thinking pondering in response to the question, because
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: it is a really tough question.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: And but we did have.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: Some sides taken so from while nut Seeker on Instagram
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: Grindevald was the pick went on to elaborate that, you know,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: Grindovald had Europe scared, Valdemore.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: Couldn't kill a tween, which fair enough, very fair.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, I mean Baltimore
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: was like defeated by a baby who didn't even defend themselves,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: So Baltimore. Claire Port was defeated by a baby, and
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: Grindewald killed a baby. Well, had his followers kill a baby.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: That's a pretty good yeah, comparison there. And then we
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: got a response from Jerry as well. Jerry said, as
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: to which villain is worse, I think that while they
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: were being villainous, they were both pretty bad and I
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: would hate to rank them. So again, wished really hard,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: So Jerry said, we don't know everything that each did,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: but both of them murdered people themselves and encouraged their
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: followers to commit murder, tortured people themselves and encouraged their
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: followers to commit torture, and so on, and they recruited people,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: and by encouraging them to do wicked things, some of
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: their followers, who might otherwise have remained good became bad,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: and those were victims, just like those killed or tortured.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: Jerry said that the biggest differences that Grindelwald survived to
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: spend decades in prison, and based on what he did
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: when Baltimore paid a visit, I believe that he ended
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: up with feelings of remorse and his attempt to protect
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: Dumbledore from Baltimore. In either case, if he knew Dumbledore
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: was dead or if he thought him alive, as we
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: kind of talked about at the end of our episode,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: Jerry says, was an attempt at restitution. If Grendelvald had
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: shown up at King's Cross at the end of book seven,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: he wouldn't have been the weird, boldy baby thing Harry saw.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: But I believe that Grendelvald went on to whatever form
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: of afterlife wizard kind has where Valdemore was completely destroyed
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: in his end. Yeah, And it's kind of that, like,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: like we were kind of talking about towards the end
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: of the episode, like A, I don't want to say
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: that Grendelvald necessarily had a redemption arc in the end,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: but it.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: Was kind of like because he didn't. Unfortunately he didn't.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: Valdemore ends up killing him, right, so he doesn't necessarily
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: like and he's in prison and all that, and he
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: doesn't really get to like live out a redemption arc.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: But to that point of him having all these these
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: years to think about.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: It and to kind of have the beginnings of maybe
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: like remorse and that redemption arc where Valdemore just there
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: was never remorse.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: There was never a redemption arc. There was never a
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: light at the end of the tunnel.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: Well, and it comes down to too that Grenivald had
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: a soul still, right, Valtimore mutilated his soul right Without
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: a soul, there's like no chance at remorse or redemption. Really, like,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: you're done. You're not human anymore. And if you're not human,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: you're not capable of those human emotions.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: So yeah, well, and I think that maybe too, like
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: and I don't know, I feel like maybe we didn't
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: touch on that in or episode. I think that to me,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: that is actually kind of what ends up making Grindivald
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: worse and more scary. Is that again, to the point
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: of what we're even talking about, he's in the end
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: of the day, he's still human, Yeah, and he's still
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: not that what Baltimore becomes justifies anything that he does.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: But like to your point, like he's just so far gone,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: he's so far mutilated in terms of his soul, his values,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: his morals, his humanity that it almost like, well, of
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: course he like does these things.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: He's got no human emotion or humanity. There's no stop him.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no conscience saying you shouldn't do that.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: Right where Grinovald has that and he chooses to anyway. Right.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: But then again, like Jerry just pointed out, we think
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: you know in time though, that humanity kind of always
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: wins in the end of like thinking about you know
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: what you did and would you do it again, and
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: just his lack of support in Baltimore pursuing you know,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: his means too is definitely very, very important. And Jerry
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: also shared that our discussion confirmed a feeling that she
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: had about the Third Fantastic Beast movie ending. She said,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: I think it was a mistake to show Dumbledore doing
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: Grindevald as he did without having it be the final duel,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: and she said that with the blood pack destroyed, it
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: makes Dumbledore look like a coward for letting it decade
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: more or less pass before finally confronting Grindebald and defeating him,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: and all the deaths and other evil that took place
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: during that time, which I mean, obviously we agree. We
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: talked a lot about that at the end, and Dumbledore
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: himself even kind of admits that.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: But I think I do.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: Agree that having this duel happen in the film that
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: we weren't aware of happening before just does make Dumbledore
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: look like it clearly was in the movie for the
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: cinematic purpose of it. It didn't really make sense in
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: the story and character arc of them.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: In my opinion, that was.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: Them being like, we're gonna ditch movies four and five,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: but we still want a duel.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: I feel like in that moment we should have known
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: that there was going to be no more, because why
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: would you The big climactic plot point of their whole
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: character arc is their duel.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then we got this like mini duel. Yeah.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: I can't believe I didn't realize that while I was
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: watching Hindsight Hindsight's twenty twenty. Yeah, but yeah, Jerry also
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: said that, you know, she said, by the way, I
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: don't think I ever saw evidence in the books or
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: the movies that Grendelwald had a pure blood fetish like
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: VOLDI did. And she said, I believe that he had
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: no problem with a witch or wizard who was half
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: led or muggle born.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: He just had a dislike of muggles.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: Too bad that we never learned enough of his backstory
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: to understand why.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, same, very same.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: You know, And I don't even know if yeah, you know,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: and it's like, I don't even know if we know
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: enough about him to say that he dislikes muggles more
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: so than his whole thing is really about we're the
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: superior being here.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: Why are we in the shadows?
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: Why are we having to suppress ourselves when we have
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: this special power, this specialness about us, Like they the Muggles,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: should be subservient to us, right the other way around.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: Right, I don't know that he disliked them, but I
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: think he definitely saw them as disposable, correct, which I
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: guess is kind of the same.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: But well, but no, I mean, I think at the
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: end of the day, the reason why.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: Witches and wizards were kind of having to hide was
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: because of muggle Yeah.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: Right, So it's easy to blame them for.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, or thinking like, we can't coexist with muggles, because
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: if muggles know that we have this kind of power,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: they're going to be demanding things from us all the
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: time to fix their Muggle world. And so it's easier
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: just for witches and wizards to hide and not have
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: muggles know that there's this whole piece of the world, right.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: And.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they are I mean, they are definitely very
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: very different characters. But I think, as the responses showed,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody is if there's a solid
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: answer to this to this question, they're both pretty bad.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So our discussion question for this episode is do
• 1:15:16
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• 1:15:19
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• 1:16:27
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