Latest / THE DAILY BRIEF / How Trump's ICE crackdown has TRAUMATIZED 'hundreds of thousands' of children in the U.S
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- 0:00Speaker 1: A new feature in The Atlantic is highlighting one aspect
- 0:03Speaker 1: of the immigration crackdown that's creating a separate crisis. The
- 0:07Speaker 1: United States is deporting large numbers of immigrant parents without
- 0:12Speaker 1: their children. Joining us now, the reporter behind that piece,
- 0:16Speaker 1: staff writer at The Atlantic, Caitlin Dickerson. She previously covered
- 0:20Speaker 1: immigration for The New York Times during President Trump's first
- 0:24Speaker 1: administration and caitlin i remember recently i think it was
- 0:27Speaker 1: danbury connecticut i was seeing reports of kids on the
- 0:30Speaker 1: first day of school coming home to no parents because
- 0:33Speaker 1: they did raids on the first day of school but
- 0:36Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about uh what you're finding
- 0:39Speaker 1: how many people um who are in families are being
- 0:43Speaker 1: targeted who were simply in the process of trying to
- 0:47Speaker 1: get legal status when they were taken away leaving families
- 0:52Speaker 1: even children behind.
- 0:55Speaker 2: So what I.
- 0:55Speaker 3: Found in my reporting is that the number of kids
- 0:58Speaker 3: who are being left at home without one or both
- 1:02Speaker 3: of their parents is really massive. Brookings researchers didn't estimate
- 1:07Speaker 3: as of last April, they thought more than 200,000 kids
- 1:11Speaker 3: in the United States, the majority of whom, more than
- 1:13Speaker 3: 70% of whom were U.S. citizens, had lost at least
- 1:16Speaker 3: one parent to ICE detention or deportation. They also believe
- 1:21Speaker 3: that more than 30,000 children have lost both of their parents.
- 1:24Speaker 3: So you're right.
- 1:25Speaker 2: There are so many stories to keep up with right now.
- 1:28Speaker 3: So many aspects to this immigration crackdown that it's hard
- 1:31Speaker 3: to keep up.
- 1:32Speaker 2: But I decided that I wanted.
- 1:34Speaker 3: To focus on these kids who I discovered are being
- 1:37Speaker 3: left in very precarious situations. So, you know, losing one
- 1:41Speaker 3: parent is extremely destabilizing. And often we know the person
- 1:44Speaker 3: who's deported is the breadwinner. They're at work like the
- 1:47Speaker 3: man we just saw who was, you know, a door
- 1:49Speaker 3: dash driver. And ICE went after him. People are out
- 1:52Speaker 3: on the streets when they're working, and that makes them
- 1:54Speaker 3: more vulnerable to ICE arrest. And so I interviewed families
- 1:57Speaker 3: who had one parent left behind who was incredibly scared,
- 2:00Speaker 3: you know, trying to make sure that they weren't going
- 2:03Speaker 3: to maroon their children completely with no caretaker. And so
- 2:07Speaker 3: parents who were individual parents who had been doing everything right,
- 2:10Speaker 3: you know, they entered the United States legally. maybe under
- 2:13Speaker 3: a parole program where they requested asylum, which is legal.
- 2:17Speaker 3: They were going to ICE check-ins and court hearings. They're
- 2:20Speaker 3: now actually doing the opposite and going underground, hiding from
- 2:24Speaker 3: ICE because they're so scared of leaving their children all alone.
- 2:27Speaker 2: And then, of course, I wrote about kids who were
- 2:29Speaker 2: left all alone.
- 2:31Speaker 3: There's a two-year-old in my story named Eber who's been
- 2:33Speaker 3: living with his mother's former co-worker since January. His mom
- 2:37Speaker 3: was detained last November.
- 2:39Speaker 2: He just turned two.
- 2:40Speaker 3: He doesn't even seem to remember his own mother when
- 2:43Speaker 3: they speak over FaceTime. The woman caring for him is
- 2:46Speaker 3: facing incredible strain as our caregivers across the country. It's
- 2:50Speaker 3: expensive to care for these kids. They're emotionally traumatized. And
- 2:54Speaker 3: it's very, very difficult to reunite these families. And none
- 2:57Speaker 3: of this seems to be normal. under consideration when ICE
- 3:00Speaker 3: is going.
- 3:00Speaker 2: Out and arresting parents.
- 3:02Speaker 4: Caitlin, I want to read a little bit from your piece.
- 3:03Speaker 4: You write this, quote, Some children end up with foster
- 3:06Speaker 4: families after caregivers burn out. Some have landed in the
- 3:09Speaker 4: homes of abusive relatives or acquaintances. In January, two-year-old Orlin
- 3:14Speaker 4: Hernandez-Reyes was left with his aunt's ex-partner, who was known
- 3:17Speaker 4: to be dangerous when ICE detained his mother. She begged
- 3:20Speaker 4: deportation officers to reunite her with Orlin before she was
- 3:24Speaker 4: deported to Honduras. But that did not happen. Soon after,
- 3:27Speaker 4: Orlin's body was found with broken bones and signs of
- 3:30Speaker 4: sexual abuse. And his caregiver was charged with murder. He
- 3:35Speaker 4: is pleaded not guilty. Then ICE director Todd Lyons blamed
- 3:38Speaker 4: his mother, saying she chose to leave her son here
- 3:41Speaker 4: with a violent murderer who took his life. That is
- 3:45Speaker 4: a hard passage to stomach. Can you just explain a
- 3:50Speaker 4: little bit more, talk about that story a little bit?
- 3:52Speaker 4: But also, I mean, when we say some of these
- 3:55Speaker 4: children as young as two years old are left behind
- 3:58Speaker 4: with no parents, what does that look like in the moment?
- 4:00Speaker 4: The parents are disappeared. And then in the immediate aftermath,
- 4:03Speaker 4: what happens to these kids?
- 4:06Speaker 3: So because ICE isn't in many cases working with local
- 4:11Speaker 3: authorities to ensure that kids are safe, these situations in
- 4:15Speaker 3: the moment can look very haphazard. You know, you have
- 4:18Speaker 3: neighbors coming in, noticing that a child is alone or
- 4:22Speaker 3: getting a phone call from a child who's alone, you know,
- 4:24Speaker 3: former co-workers, like I mentioned of one of the mothers
- 4:27Speaker 3: in my story, really anybody who's around scrambling to find
- 4:31Speaker 3: housing and safety. And I'm glad that you brought up
- 4:34Speaker 3: the case of Orlean because, right, I described a scenario
- 4:38Speaker 3: where a well-meaning caregiver who's taken in A child whose
- 4:42Speaker 3: parent was deported for an indefinite amount of time is
- 4:45Speaker 3: facing incredible strain, as is, of course, the separated parent
- 4:49Speaker 3: and the child. But I also found cases like Orleans
- 4:53Speaker 3: where someone who wasn't well-meaning, you know, an adult who
- 4:55Speaker 3: was estranged, who had a history of abuse, even convicted
- 4:59Speaker 3: history of abuse, swooped in after a child's parent was
- 5:02Speaker 3: detained by ICE. The parent was powerless to stop this
- 5:05Speaker 3: from happening. took a child into their home. I write
- 5:09Speaker 3: about a mother who dealt with that scenario with two
- 5:12Speaker 3: of her children. You know, her ex-partner was estranged from them.
- 5:16Speaker 3: He had multiple DUIs. He had convictions for domestic violence,
- 5:19Speaker 3: including of children. When this mother was detained, he took
- 5:23Speaker 3: two of their children into his home, and it took
- 5:26Speaker 3: months for this mother to try to get the kids back.
- 5:29Speaker 2: Frankly, the only reason that she.
- 5:30Speaker 3: Was successful was because, for She was hooked up with
- 5:33Speaker 3: a pro bono family lawyer in Los Angeles who who
- 5:37Speaker 3: argued the case from the time the mother was detained
- 5:39Speaker 3: and then ultimately deported to her home country.
- 5:42Speaker 2: But this is something that we.
- 5:43Speaker 3: Know most parents taken into ICE custody aren't going to
- 5:46Speaker 3: be able to do on their own.
- 5:48Speaker 2: You know, family courts are extremely difficult to navigate.
- 5:51Speaker 3: And because ICE isn't making sure that arrangements have been
- 5:54Speaker 3: made for children before detaining and deporting parents, This is
- 5:59Speaker 3: a scenario that is becoming more and more common to
- 6:01Speaker 3: the tune of.
- 6:03Speaker 2: Like I said earlier, perhaps hundreds of thousands of children.
- 6:06Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
- 6:07Speaker 1: The new piece is available online right now. Staff writer
- 6:10Speaker 1: for The Atlantic, Caitlin Dickerson. Thank you very much for
- 6:14Speaker 1: your reporting.
- 6:17Speaker 4: Or just click below.
- 6:18Speaker 1: Thanks.