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Hockey Was WILD in the ’90s! | Bare Knuckle Nation Ep. 8 · Bare Knuckle Nation Podcast

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  This is Bare Knuckle Nation. Let's go.
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  >> Look at you and keep
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  >> I feel like I'm going to get stabbed in
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  the face.
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  >> I'm trying to get through this intro
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  when we ruin together. This is what I
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  >> That's weird. I couldn't
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  What's going on, guys? [laughter] [ __ ]
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  He looks scary as [ __ ] I'M TRYING TO
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  GET
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  >> JUST TRYING TO GET I'm trying to be a
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  professional.
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  >> You know that secret pretty good pocket.
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  I like that.
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  >> What's a good word, homies?
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  >> Another
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  [ __ ]
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  >> No, it's another
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  suit.
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  >> Hundreds.
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  >> That's beautiful.
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  >> Sponsorship right there.
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  >> But it's a onesie. Oh, no. It breaks in.
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  It's a half, but it's a onesie. Let me
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  see that line. Financially fluent,
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  athletically questionable. [laughter]
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  >> Hey, Subie, does that have one where you
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  can just unzip the back? Keep it on.
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  Keep it on.
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  >> It's got pockets in here for lots of
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  money.
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  >> Oh, [laughter] yeah.
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  >> Yeah, Monday.
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  >> Kev, thank you very much.
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  >> By the way, speaking of money, you can
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  still sponsor the podcast.
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  >> More other tracksuits. The boys need a
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  track.
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  >> Everybody needs a trackuit.
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  >> Let's get a tracksuit. I think we got
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  some coming up here. By the way,
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  >> you have a tattoo of $100 bill on you,
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  too, don't you? Somewhere in your body.
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  >> It's lower back. It's a $1 bill right
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  now.
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  >> That's what [laughter] inserts.
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  >> It's a $1 bill right now. Gross into
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  100.
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  >> Hey, let's be serious. It's a wrinkled
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  penny.
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  >> Oh [laughter] boy. God.
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  >> Podcast.
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  >> This is what we do.
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  >> Are we on Are we on camera?
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  >> We are on camera every single Wednesday.
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  We bring it out. Of course, we we post
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  this on Thursday, but we come in here
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  early on uh Wednesdays every single
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  week.
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  >> You can put the whole can in.
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  >> I put a big one in, man. I put a big
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  goddamn difference. And I don't give a
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  [ __ ] That's what I do, baby. [laughter]
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  Does my wife care? You damn RIGHT
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  on the couch. And she was not happy with
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  me.
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  >> It was disgusting.
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  >> Cam is famous for having these like I
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  spent some time on the road with Cam
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  doing TV and radio and whatnot. And he's
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  got these spitters like everywhere.
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  Everywhere.
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  >> Disgusting.
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  >> And
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  >> accidentally drinking something like
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  that.
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  >> I don't know what the [ __ ]
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  >> I was junior I was in junior year on the
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  bus and I had tea in one and I had
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  spitter in the other and I went like
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  this and put in a mouth. I almost
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  chucked all over the place. It was the
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  nastiest thing that ever happened to me.
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  >> Some [ __ ] was spitting [snorts] into
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  his beer bottle.
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  >> Oh yes.
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  That's Ba.
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  >> You're young.
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  >> Isn't that boa?
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  I reached
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  >> both of these NUTS IN YOUR MOUTH. GOT IT
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  OUT EARLY. GOT IT OUT EARLY. I DIDN'T I
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  DIDN'T EVEN GET A CHANCE TO SAY WHAT'S
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  BOTH.
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  >> I know. The confused look was good
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  enough. I was just like, UH, I'M GETTING
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  [ __ ] [laughter] I KNOW. I KNOW IT'S
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  HAPPENING.
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  >> I'M GLAD YOU guys brought that up,
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  though. Some of these bus rides, and
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  listen, I'm an OHL pretty boy, Ontario
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  Hockey League. We had 9-hour bus rides
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  at the most. These guys out in the dub,
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  boy, were [snorts] 25hour long in
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  [clears throat] the middle of [ __ ]
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  nowhere.
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  >> Start
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  >> to start. I mean, just the start of our
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  road trip from Moojaw, where I played
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  Junior, also my hometown, to Seattle.
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  That was to start the 19-day trip was 26
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  hours. We had to have two bus drivers
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  with us so they could take turns and we
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  just rolled all night long. And then
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  what was even worse back then, I think
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  they fly more now, but Prince George had
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  literally the worst road ever. The
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  closest trip for them was seven hours to
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  Cam
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  >> and Prince George had the worst travel
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  >> and now they had to go to there was no
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  other way for you to get anywhere but
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  the Cam Loops and then they could
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  disperse for
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  >> I played junior hockey there. I did.
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  >> You're damn right.
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  >> Plenty of time for Loie to do his
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  homework on that bus. Lots of [laughter]
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  on that bus.
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  >> I Hey, class of 2017 guys. I got
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  >> No, you did. I love it.
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  >> And No, you you went back to school.
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  >> 40 years old. But let me ask you guys
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  what in the 90s
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  >> Billy Madison
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  >> in the [laughter]
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  >> That'd be kind of fun. In the 90s, what
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  do you do on the bus? All these guys
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  now, if you're playing, you got every
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  kind of device possible. So like what
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  did you guys do?
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  >> What' you do? I had one card. Were you
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  card guy? Like
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  >> I didn't like cards, but there was a lot
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  of cards.
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  >> What' you do
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  in pro?
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  >> Yeah. Not so much in junior for me. Like
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  the guys weren't playing cards. Now, we
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  had some, you know, shitty travel up in
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  Sudbury. The only teams that were close
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  to us were Sous St. Marie was 3 hours
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  away and North Bay. It was like an hour
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  and a half
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  >> and those were battles by the way.
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  >> Like when we played North Bay was nuts.
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  Like they had Brad Brown, Dennis Bond,
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  Steve McLaren. Like they had some dudes
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  >> underrated Steve McLaren down the pipe.
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  Steve and so and the fans would travel
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  >> back and forth. It was those were big
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  games. But on the bus like nobody every
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  now and then you get a Uker game going a
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  little bit and
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  >> that was it. But
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  >> Bob Uker.
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  >> What's that?
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  >> Oh no no no. Rest in peace Bob. By
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  [clears throat] the way
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  >> when you were in Saskatoon, correct me
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  if I'm wrong. Weren't you like pretty
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  smart and scholastic player of the year
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  and stuff?
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  >> Scholastic player of the year.
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  >> Seriously. And correct me. Were you in
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  university?
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  you were in university winning
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  scholastic player of the year against
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  kids that were in high school.
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  >> Well, and I think that was the
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  [clears throat] everybody everybody was
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  in school. I think there's only one or
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  two over ages that you know for that
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  year everybody was in high school and I
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  was I 17 or 8 17 I [snorts] just turned
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  18.
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  >> So Western Hockey League's classic
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  player of the year. Did you win the
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  whole deal?
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  >> No. No, just uh
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  >> just Western League.
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  >> Western League. Yep.
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  >> Hey, when you winer always Chaser's
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  [clears throat] famous thing for you is
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  Twister's smart enough to run the bank.
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  He'd just rather rob it, [laughter]
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  right? And I applied all those skills. I
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  I I applied those skills to my spades
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  game which was very and hearts.
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  >> That's what we played through.
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  >> Spades and hearts.
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  >> Spades and hearts. And it got a little
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  serial. You know, when you're playing
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  the, you know, you're playing in the
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  junior in the the junior ranks when
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  you're making paychecks what 40 or 80
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  bucks maybe if you're
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  >> lucky. 85 bucks.
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  >> When I played as an OA, I think it was
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  300 bucks. I was pretty happy. Hey, when
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  you're on those long road trips and all
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  a sudden some rookie in the front goes
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  back and he's in the bathroom for a long
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  time and you're like, "You're [ __ ]
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  taking a dump."
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  >> We never had rookies that were allowed
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  to.
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  >> I was going to say
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  allowed four kids. No, we put our feet
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  up and they wouldn't be able to get by.
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  >> So, they have to hold it.
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  >> If they went in there, they weren't
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  getting out, right? [laughter]
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  >> Yeah. You blocked the door.
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  >> They were not getting out.
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  Cut the cord. You're in trouble.
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> What about What about high school for
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  you though, Twister? Like when you went
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  to high school, did everybody know who
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  you were? Anybody try to mess with you?
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  >> High school different than it is now.
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  Okay. We every Sheldon and I best
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  friend. We
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  >> every weekend was a party. So you But
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  it's not like parties now. You drove to
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  whoever's mom and dad were out of town
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  of course
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  >> and everybody bring the beer and then
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  you know some the houses made it through
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  some was a house wreck but more often
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  than not it was just destroyed. But our
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  whole weekends were about that. you
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  know, where can you you're putting beer
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  inside the the uh I better not
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  instead of window washing fluid, you've
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  got, you know, your ramen coke or the
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  time you press the button
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  >> in the car.
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  >> Yeah. Well, no, you reroute the hose
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  right to your cup.
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  >> Yeah, that's pretty good.
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  >> Wait, wait, wait, wait. So, you would
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  reroute your hose that went to the
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  windshield wiper fluid, which you
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  desperately need in Canada at all times
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  probably,
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  >> to a little thing that strained out
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  right in the passenger side so you can
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  make a cocktail. That's [ __ ]
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  brilliant.
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  >> And then
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  >> I might do that.
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  >> Told you he was smart.
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  >> So then what?
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  >> I WAS LIKE, HOW DO I PUT A KEG IN MY
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  HEARD THAT BEFORE? That's not normal.
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  >> I put a Oh my god.
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  >> All you have to do is get two of them.
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  There's a little It's a runs on 12 volts
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  little pumps. You have one for your
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  washer. Just Just don't get confused.
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  [laughter]
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  >> The wrong.
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  >> Yeah. You might get gone if you drink
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  that little [ __ ] boy.
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  >> Yeah. You'll be fine.
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  >> It's a different buzz.
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  >> You'll be fine. [laughter] Yeah. Yeah.
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  It hits differently.
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  >> That's happened in Saskatchewan. I
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  assure you.
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  >> Daddy Freeze does make a good wine
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  sweetener. Well, it did anyways back in
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  the day. That's what he didn't junior.
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  >> It's funny though, man. This even going
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  to high school in Windsor. Like they
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  didn't I feel like they didn't have a
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  control.
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  >> Like I was already signed quick at 18
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  and then you stay drafted and all that.
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  I knew I was gone. I didn't even go like
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  I'd come hang out, you know, do
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  whatever, get out of there, skip school,
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  this and that. They didn't really do
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  anything. I did go box in Detroit in
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  this hardcore boxing uh this like little
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  studio that they had. I did that every
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  single morning which is cool. Hardcore.
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  That was that was fun. But going to high
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  school and juniors, I don't know how it
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  is now, but we did whatever the [ __ ] we
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  wanted.
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  >> Whatever we wanted.
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  >> We um
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  >> there was no phones, that's for sure.
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  >> And none. Yep.
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  >> We had a great setup in in Sudbury. You
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  know, there's two areas to live in.
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  There's like old Sudbury which is down
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  near the rink and new Sbury which is
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  like 15 minutes down the road. And Gourd
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  [clears throat] Euan was our educational
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  like he was on the school board but he
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  also would help the guys out and
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  whatnot. And each school had a
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  representative that would help you. And
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  so if you're struggling, you're behind,
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  whatever, they talk to the teachers for
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  you, help tutor you, whatever it was.
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  They really did a good job of trying to
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  set you up for success. Now
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  >> in Sudbury um in Sudbury as small town
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  as it is and and maybe you guys through
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  the small like the hockey team is
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  everything.
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> So you can kind of get away with
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  you know
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  >> show up you know late night the night
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  before I show up for school at like
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  11:00 a.m. and forgive [clears throat]
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  your absences and then you have the
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  spend the lunch hour catching up on on
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  your work and whatnot which was kind of
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  a dick move. We should just just show up
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  to school. Just do what you're supposed
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  to do.
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  >> Cuz the bus probably got in at like 5:00
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  a.m.
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  >> Yeah. [clears throat] Some of the times
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  in like in Sbury like minus freaking 50°
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  >> and you're trying to start your car at
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  4:00 a.m. and you got to hurry up, take
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  a nap basically and get to school the
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  next day.
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  >> That was probably one of the wor that
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  the I know people said the uh the old
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  Windsor barn was very difficult for
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  people to go into.
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  >> Oh, it was terrible.
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  >> Terrible. But Sudbury sucked too and so
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  did Sous Marie. So, I love the Sbury
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  Arena. I I love it. It is gritty as
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  hell, man. Saturday, man. It don't get
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  any better than that. Letter letter
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  Kenny preference there.
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> Um, but yeah, so I'll talk about the
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  Windsor rink in a second, but we we had
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  a pretty good system. Then when Glenn
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  Marovski became our head coach, he was
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  like he was adamant about like you got
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  to be at school. If you're out of if
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  you're out of high school and you're and
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  you're going to co you got to be at
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  college or if you don't do college, you
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  got to be at the rink every morning at
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  like 10:00 a.m. called it the breakfast
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  club and you would do a workout, you
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  [clears throat] get on the ice, you do
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  something, you know, just to get going.
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  It was never like a bag or anything
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  because you had practice later on the
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  afternoon,
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  >> get you out of bed and get
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  >> Exactly. You're not going to just lay
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  around party and whatnot.
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  >> So MC was great about that. Um, but the
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  Winds Arena got a funny story about
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  Windsor Arena. We were there playing in
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  on Halloween.
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  >> Uh
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  >> oh boy.
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  >> And
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  >> were you Did you ever play in the old
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  one?
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  >> Yeah. The whole time.
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  >> Remember the end zones straight buff and
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  people were looked down at the net.
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  Well, there was no netting
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  >> before.
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  >> Oh, yeah.
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  >> There was no netting. And so they had a
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  giveaway. I forget what it was. It was
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  these little plastic things
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  on Halloween. And we beat the crap out
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  of them that game. Well, the fans
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  started to go nuts and so they started
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  firing down these things on top of our
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  goalie because they were you could line
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  up. It was like a prison almost where
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  you like line up here and straight down
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  is the goalender. Like there's no like
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  interference. And our goalie was Mike
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  Leonard Doozy.
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  >> Leonard Doozy. Leonard Duzy.
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  >> Great name.
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  >> He was selling pizza now. Leonard
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  >> Dezy.
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  >> Great goalie. Um drafted by the Harford
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  Whalers, I think. Anyways, he started
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  getting pelted by these things and we
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  had a big brawl that went on and then
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  and we're trying to go back to the
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  locker room and that the old ones where
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  you had to walk like there was a lobby
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  like you people could walk.
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  >> Yes. You're walking through people.
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  >> Yeah. And so people were waiting.
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  They're like teeing off on.
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  >> Now I think back of it in my head I'm
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  like these morons were teeing off on
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  like kids smoking 16 17y old.
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  >> It's just blue. It's blue cow as you can
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  get.
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  >> It's just blue cow. That was wild.
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  >> The rink and bush show is legendary,
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  too. The old crushed can. It was built
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  in 57 and it had a a roof almost like
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  Saddle Dome except smaller and
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  >> made the Chicago dressing rooms look
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  like freaking
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  >> unbelievable. Yeah, it was it was not a
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  place that people like other teams
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  didn't like to come in to Moose. The
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  fans were rowdy. Uh there were six feet
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  from Moose's atmosphere.
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  >> There you [laughter] go.
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  >> That's where it is. There you go.
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  >> Located right near what?
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  testicles
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  >> located right near what?
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  >> What? Near my
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  >> nuts. [laughter]
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  God,
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  >> he's too smart for you.
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  >> It's tough when you go try to go
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  intellectually
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  cuz he's like got a face. I don't want
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  to say rock guard around him.
• 13:51
  >> I was even giving you the out. I didn't
• 13:53
  even do it.
• 13:54
  >> He's not He's not there yet. He's not on
• 13:55
  your level.
• 13:56
  >> All right. The whole
• 13:57
  >> So, what are you saying, Loie? Oh, just
• 13:59
  that uh the old crushed can was quite a
• 14:01
  rink back in the day. They they tore it
• 14:03
  down and
• 14:03
  >> freezing cold.
• 14:04
  >> Oh my god, it was so cold. Especially on
• 14:08
  practice days. Like when it's minus 50°
• 14:11
  outside, you can barely start your car.
• 14:13
  Like we've got hoodies and stuff under
• 14:15
  our hockey equipment.
• 14:16
  >> But once everybody got in the rink and
• 14:18
  it was game night, it was a different
• 14:20
  story. And you got the, you know, you
• 14:21
  got going and you could the energy and
• 14:23
  everything else heated up. It was Moo
• 14:25
  was a cold. You you guys had to walk
• 14:27
  uphill to the rink and walk uphill to
• 14:29
  get home.
• 14:30
  >> Both ways. Both ways.
• 14:31
  >> But how about Hull Hull Olympics ring?
• 14:33
  Robert
• 14:35
  smoking dum.
• 14:38
  >> It was a cloud of smoke over the ring.
• 14:41
  It's crazy.
• 14:42
  >> I remember going to watch Luke Robbitai
• 14:44
  and there was another guy named Ge Ruo
• 14:45
  back at the time. They were the two top
• 14:47
  scorers in the Quebec League. We had the
• 14:49
  Ottawa 67s and then every now and then
• 14:51
  my dad would take us to the Hull
• 14:52
  Olympics game and we're like this is
• 14:54
  pretty cool. You know, one at first we
• 14:56
  didn't even know they existed because
• 14:58
  we're little kids and then we go over
• 14:59
  there and yeah, you'd sit down your seat
• 15:02
  and look up and the the standing room
• 15:04
  would be like one giant ring of smoke.
• 15:06
  >> Daddy, it's a fire.
• 15:07
  >> It's unreal.
• 15:09
  >> Those fans would get wild.
• 15:11
  >> It was a good crowd.
• 15:12
  >> Great. Wild. Then after we get to
• 15:13
  Shalomar Shalomar Shalomar
• 15:17
  Street
• 15:19
  Place, what was that?
• 15:19
  >> The whole street was covered. I can't
• 15:22
  remember. It was crazy. That thing was
• 15:24
  awesome.
• 15:25
  >> That thing was beat down. I remember
• 15:26
  when my parents first split up the first
• 15:28
  time we moved to Saskatoon and uh the
• 15:31
  barn that 84 85 Wendell Clark I think uh
• 15:35
  was pretty close to getting drafted. I
• 15:37
  think he got drafted at the end of that
• 15:38
  year, first overall. But uh it was
• 15:41
  crazy. This like Zas and the Saskatoon
• 15:43
  boys, they were just absolute.
• 15:46
  >> These kids now, let me tell you, all you
• 15:47
  parents out there,
• 15:48
  >> six, seven, eight tough guys. Like tough
• 15:50
  guys.
• 15:51
  >> Like killers.
• 15:52
  >> Killers on one team.
• 15:53
  >> You parents out there now, which a lot
• 15:55
  of people that listen to this podcast
• 15:56
  have kids that are playing. You got a
• 15:58
  pretty goddamn good. Even if you're in
• 16:00
  St. Louis that are listening right now,
• 16:02
  these rings are gigantic. They're
• 16:03
  beautiful. Growing up in St. Louis, like
• 16:05
  we would go,
• 16:06
  >> the ven form. Yeah, but it's still it's
• 16:09
  not outdoors. It builds character.
• 16:12
  >> The Afton kids are tough.
• 16:13
  >> They're tough. We love Afton.
• 16:15
  >> There was there was rings in including
• 16:18
  Kirkwood and Cahokia and whatnot that
• 16:20
  were outdoor and you had 6:00 games in
• 16:23
  the morning, 7:00 games in the morning.
• 16:24
  >> Granite City
• 16:25
  >> and Granite City, you have to run
• 16:27
  outside and you're freezing cold getting
• 16:29
  these kids have a pretty good and I feel
• 16:30
  like, you know, we we all kind of had
• 16:32
  something to do with that. Helping out,
• 16:34
  playing, building up hockey in St.
• 16:36
  Louis. Now these kids are carried in
• 16:38
  like pharaohs. [laughter] They got
• 16:40
  heated seats. They got massage rolling.
• 16:45
  [laughter] And I watch it and I watch it
• 16:47
  rolling.
• 16:47
  >> I watch it on these rinks and I'm like
• 16:49
  good for good. We want that. We want
• 16:51
  that. Like you guys, you know, that's
• 16:53
  what that's what you get. You know, we
• 16:54
  had a lot of guys come out in St. Louis.
• 16:55
  We got a lot of people that live here.
• 16:57
  We got a lot of people building up
• 16:58
  hockey in St. Louis. So the rinks are so
• 17:00
  much nicer. How are your billet
• 17:03
  families?
• 17:05
  Oh, well,
• 17:06
  >> can we explain what it is first to
• 17:07
  people? I guess maybe they don't know
• 17:08
  what it is. A bill family is when you
• 17:09
  leave town early like we all did and you
• 17:12
  have to go stay with a family that the
• 17:13
  team pays for. Not much money, by the
• 17:15
  way. And they vet them, but sometimes
• 17:18
  they don't vet them good enough cuz
• 17:19
  we've heard horror stories. So, that's
• 17:22
  what a billet family is. A lot of them
• 17:23
  are unbelievable that we still talk to
• 17:25
  to this day, but some of them were
• 17:27
  goofy. How were yours?
• 17:28
  >> My billet My first billet family, I was
• 17:30
  a senior in high school. I moved to May
• 17:32
  not North Dakota for Moo to play in the
• 17:34
  only Americanbased team in the
• 17:36
  Saskatchewan Junior Hockey League.
• 17:38
  >> And the Billets didn't get paid
• 17:40
  anything. They were all 100% volunteer.
• 17:43
  So, the nice part was they all had some
• 17:45
  money. So, you didn't you weren't going
• 17:47
  into a place. I lived with the billet uh
• 17:50
  uh the billet coordinator. Uh she's not
• 17:52
  with us anymore. Rest in peace, Jod. She
• 17:54
  was amazing. She completely changed the
• 17:56
  trajectory of who I was as a person.
• 17:58
  >> Oh, good.
• 18:00
  gave me the discipline that my parents
• 18:02
  didn't seem to be able to hold on me.
• 18:04
  They were kind of going through their
• 18:05
  thing and I was kind of the third one. I
• 18:07
  had two older sisters so I was getting
• 18:09
  away with bloody murder [snorts] and I
• 18:11
  went down to Minot thinking I thought I
• 18:13
  was going to come back and play AAA but
• 18:14
  I ended up making the team out of
• 18:16
  training camp and she was just going to
• 18:18
  take me for the month cuz they weren't
• 18:19
  going to take anybody and then I just
• 18:20
  ended up falling like right with the
• 18:22
  family and I lived there for it was
• 18:24
  unbelievable.
• 18:25
  >> Yeah. I I I you know I probably wouldn't
• 18:27
  be where I'm at today from a hockey
• 18:28
  standpoint. Did you take care of them?
• 18:30
  Like tickets?
• 18:31
  >> Yeah. They always came to Minneapolis
• 18:32
  when we played the the Wild. Um,
• 18:35
  >> that's all they wanted, man.
• 18:36
  >> And every time I drive home in the
• 18:38
  summer and drive back, I always stop in
• 18:39
  for have the she made sweet or uh cheese
• 18:42
  potatoes with the hash browns and the
• 18:45
  mayonnaise mix and all that. They were
• 18:47
  so good.
• 18:47
  >> I don't know if that sounds that good,
• 18:48
  but
• 18:50
  >> but when you don't when you don't know
• 18:51
  any better,
• 18:53
  >> the cheesy potato dish casserole is one
• 18:55
  of the best dishes on planet Earth.
• 18:56
  >> Yeah. No, I get that.
• 18:58
  And then and then all over
• 19:02
  [laughter]
• 19:05
  it. And then I live when my last two
• 19:08
  years in Western Hockey League as a
• 19:09
  19-year-old rookie and an overage. I
• 19:11
  live with Dave Low, the man. Love you.
• 19:13
  >> Okay. Little shout out right there,
• 19:15
  baby. Davy boy. What's up?
• 19:16
  >> Did you Did you do any of that villing?
• 19:18
  >> I did. I had two French families. Great
• 19:20
  people.
• 19:20
  >> That's why you speak French so well.
• 19:22
  >> Um I French toast, French fries.
• 19:25
  [laughter]
• 19:25
  >> I can still French kiss. But you do kiss
• 19:27
  that way.
• 19:28
  >> Yeah, that's Oh, I do.
• 19:29
  >> He's an excellent kisser.
• 19:30
  >> No, my my families were great.
• 19:31
  [laughter]
• 19:32
  >> Just speaking from experience.
• 19:34
  >> We were roommates for
• 19:36
  >> We'll get into that, too, by the way.
• 19:38
  [laughter]
• 19:39
  >> Oh, god. Sorry. I'm sorry.
• 19:40
  >> What do you got going?
• 19:41
  >> What is that?
• 19:43
  >> Yeah. Music.
• 19:45
  >> Who sings that song?
• 19:46
  >> That's uh No.
• 19:48
  >> Do the Imagine Dragons. Do you like
• 19:50
  Imagine Dragons?
• 19:51
  >> I love the Imagine Dragons.
• 19:52
  >> Imagine Dragon bees nuts. YOUR
• 19:54
  [laughter] FACE.
• 19:57
  YOU CAN'T FALL FOR IT ANYMORE.
• 19:59
  >> My god,
• 20:00
  >> you can't do it. God, [laughter]
• 20:02
  >> we are. This is a very mature podcast.
• 20:05
  Imagine these [laughter] one, just so
• 20:07
  you know.
• 20:08
  >> Was that another level?
• 20:09
  >> 10 years.
• 20:11
  >> Oh my god.
• 20:12
  >> Twister, how are your villains?
• 20:13
  >> My billings were wonderful.
• 20:15
  >> Well, Carrie Clark and I lived together.
• 20:19
  >> Clark and I lived together.
• 20:20
  >> That's called a halfway house.
• 20:21
  >> It was [laughter] pretty much It was a
• 20:23
  halfway house. It was. And they were
• 20:25
  really good to us. I mean, they didn't
• 20:27
  get paid near enough money to feed us
• 20:29
  two animals.
• 20:29
  >> No way.
• 20:30
  >> And they were they were wonderful. We
• 20:32
  had uh in every way,
• 20:34
  >> food, everything.
• 20:35
  >> Oh, everything. Every They were great.
• 20:37
  >> Shark almost end Craig Darby's life.
• 20:40
  >> Oh yeah.
• 20:40
  >> In our first game in Freddy against
• 20:42
  Portland, he came and pushed Darbs from
• 20:45
  like in front. There was a guy behind
• 20:47
  Darbs, flipped him, crunched his neck
• 20:49
  off the boards, and just stood there. I
• 20:51
  don't think he got a penalty. It was a
• 20:52
  scrum. It was
• 20:53
  >> Clark. He did.
• 20:53
  >> Yeah. Oh, it was awesome. I was on the
• 20:55
  bench. I was like, "Holy [ __ ] that was
• 20:56
  crazy."
• 20:57
  >> He always used to do the moonwalk.
• 20:58
  >> Oh, when he when he scored. Oh, he was
• 21:00
  and he was right [clears throat] after
• 21:01
  Three Amigos. That was his that was his
• 21:04
  thing.
• 21:04
  >> And And [laughter]
• 21:06
  he would do the one side, two side. Oh,
• 21:08
  god.
• 21:09
  >> I like that.
• 21:10
  >> He was a piece of character.
• 21:11
  >> He was a piece.
• 21:12
  >> Are there more characters back then than
• 21:14
  now?
• 21:14
  >> Way more. I know.
• 21:15
  >> Way more characters back then. Guys were
• 21:17
  wild, man.
• 21:18
  >> Well, let's let's get the reason why.
• 21:20
  The whole bus ride thing. What do you
• 21:23
  get from a from the long bus rides? You
• 21:26
  get a bunch of cramped up characters who
• 21:28
  are at each other's throats, but you
• 21:30
  find a way to make it work. You're
• 21:32
  playing cards, spades, uker,
• 21:35
  >> crib. You're doing whatever you're
• 21:37
  doing.
• 21:38
  >> You're doing it for hours and hours on
• 21:40
  end. You build a rapport. You build a
• 21:42
  camaraderie.
• 21:43
  >> I feel like I'm afraid to
• 21:46
  >> now everything is on video now.
• 21:49
  >> Totally.
• 21:49
  >> You know, but
• 21:50
  >> there's no video on the bus.
• 21:51
  >> No, no. No, I'm talking about just let's
• 21:52
  get outside the bus for a second. Guys
• 21:54
  weren't afraid to beat
• 21:55
  >> I like the bus.
• 21:56
  >> I like the bus, too. But nobody else
• 21:59
  sees what's going on on the bus except
• 22:01
  for the guys on the bus. So like Sharky
• 22:03
  doing the moonwalk straight down center
• 22:04
  ice and then doing the three amigos.
• 22:07
  Like that's character. Like it's it's
• 22:10
  personality. It's,
• 22:11
  >> you know, you don't see a lot of that.
• 22:13
  But that that personality and the
• 22:14
  confidence to do that's built though
• 22:16
  going back to the dressing room. You can
• 22:18
  spend seven, eight hours a day with the
• 22:19
  same character. You're going to have a
• 22:21
  different look at him.
• 22:22
  >> Yeah.
• 22:22
  >> And you you might even hate them more
• 22:24
  than you would, but you'll play harder
• 22:26
  for them on the ice because you guys are
• 22:28
  a team. I think that baton hasn't been
• 22:30
  passed. I'm happy that it's not for
• 22:32
  them, but it's you got to you got to
• 22:34
  find another area to perform in. Find
• 22:35
  another arena to play that game.
• 22:38
  >> That's all I got to say.
• 22:40
  >> What was it? Who scared you the most
• 22:42
  fighting? Who caught Okay, fine. I knew
• 22:44
  that was question was going to be awful
• 22:45
  that way. No, no, no. Let me rephrase it
• 22:46
  then.
• 22:47
  >> Yeah, he scared everybody.
• 22:48
  >> I know he did. [laughter] He created me.
• 22:50
  Certainly. Him and Chaser created me. I
• 22:52
  know.
• 22:53
  >> Was a wild night.
• 22:54
  >> Who caught you the hardest? Can I give
• 22:56
  you a couple?
• 22:57
  >> Sure.
• 22:58
  >> Was it Todd Yuing? Rest in peace. We
• 23:00
  love by the way. Was it Francois Laroo
• 23:04
  when you broke off of him and came back?
• 23:06
  >> I thought No, [clears throat] that
• 23:06
  wasn't that was
• 23:07
  >> cuz he had the [ __ ] [ __ ] on his hands
• 23:09
  >> and he cut and cut me. But that didn't
• 23:11
  hurt. But you lost your mind.
• 23:13
  >> I was livid about it. It was over
• 23:15
  Snuggles.
• 23:16
  >> Who caught you? Oh, Jim McKenzie got you
• 23:18
  one time.
• 23:19
  >> Give me back. But those are successional
• 23:22
  punches where you
• 23:23
  >> I'll tell you what punching the head
• 23:24
  contrated
• 23:29
  heavyweights for in the history of the
• 23:31
  game.
• 23:32
  >> And I'm not saying little. I'm saying
• 23:34
  like
• 23:34
  >> like a water buffalo. [laughter]
• 23:35
  >> He's got other things that were big,
• 23:36
  too.
• 23:37
  >> I mean, he is something else.
• 23:38
  >> He was tough and just go look at some of
• 23:41
  his fights. He fought everybody and he
• 23:43
  just left and right.
• 23:44
  >> Left and right.
• 23:46
  You think Lo's got a big head? Jimmy
• 23:48
  Max's got another half a size sitting on
• 23:50
  top of his head.
• 23:50
  >> He's the sweetest human being in the
• 23:51
  world. Jimmy,
• 23:53
  >> sweetest human being in the world.
• 23:54
  >> I don't know.
• 23:55
  >> Fight Jerry Fleming. Do you remember
• 23:57
  playing against somebody?
• 23:58
  >> I did.
• 23:59
  >> He's huge.
• 23:59
  >> It didn't work well.
• 24:00
  >> Yeah,
• 24:01
  >> he's
• 24:02
  like you.
• 24:03
  >> No, 65.
• 24:05
  >> He's like 66 or 67.
• 24:06
  >> Yeah, he's coaching I think somewhere
• 24:07
  now. He was huge.
• 24:08
  >> Huge. I don't think he liked to
• 24:10
  fighting. No.
• 24:10
  >> No, I don't think he I got out one night
• 24:11
  with him and me, him, and Brian Curran
• 24:14
  were out one night just
• 24:15
  >> Happy Feet.
• 24:15
  >> Yeah. Oh, shackles. [laughter]
• 24:19
  >> Happy Feet.
• 24:20
  >> We call him Shackles cuz he skated like
• 24:21
  he had shackles. He didn't like that.
• 24:24
  But he pinned me over the boards one
• 24:26
  night in Portland and fed me a beating
• 24:27
  right in front of Barry Trotz who was
• 24:28
  the head coach.
• 24:30
  >> Barry. Yeah. Cuz I call him shackles and
• 24:31
  I wouldn't let off the gas. And then a
• 24:34
  scrum started and I he found me in the
• 24:37
  scrum and I I was like, I'm [ __ ] here.
• 24:40
  I'm done now. And he was a big B.
• 24:42
  >> He was a big man. He had the happiest
• 24:44
  feet in the game, though.
• 24:46
  >> Isn't it weird though? There's some guys
• 24:47
  that uh never you don't even know their
• 24:49
  name that much and didn't really even
• 24:51
  even play in the American League cuz you
• 24:52
  know the real heavyweights in American
• 24:54
  League from Morassi to [ __ ] even like
• 24:57
  uh
• 24:58
  >> Scroy. You're damn right to uh Mc or uh
• 25:02
  McLaren. McIntyre played a little bit in
• 25:04
  the in the NHL. Not too too much. Um but
• 25:06
  you there were so many so many tough
• 25:08
  tough guys. But there's a lot of tough
• 25:10
  guys and juniors, man, that were killers
• 25:13
  and they just couldn't figure it out and
• 25:15
  they didn't. And then all a sudden,
• 25:17
  boom, they're getting into construction
• 25:18
  or whatever. But god, were they tough
• 25:20
  and no one even talks about them, but we
• 25:22
  had to deal with them. You know what I
• 25:23
  mean?
• 25:24
  >> Crazy.
• 25:25
  >> We talked a little bit the last time or
• 25:27
  a couple times ago about Donald
• 25:28
  Brashier, too. I fought him two or three
• 25:30
  times and man, he was just so strong and
• 25:32
  he would he would pull on you and pull
• 25:34
  on you and then he just left pull pull
• 25:37
  upper [laughter]
• 25:37
  cut. I watched I watched a fight between
• 25:39
  him and and George The Rock and
• 25:41
  [clears throat] they both knocked each
• 25:43
  other out in the same fight, got up and
• 25:46
  it was one of the craziest.
• 25:47
  >> Georgie posted that the other day with
• 25:49
  Twister on it, too.
• 25:50
  >> Twister I Yeah, we I sent that to you
• 25:52
  guys. It's uh I didn't I didn't agree
• 25:54
  with his list at all in the order.
• 25:55
  >> He had prob
• 25:58
  Twister at like 10 on my list.
• 25:59
  >> I think he was three or four.
• 26:01
  >> Was that four?
• 26:03
  guys on that list that list like I
• 26:05
  probably wouldn't Godard was tough but I
• 26:07
  probably would have had him on that
• 26:08
  list.
• 26:11
  >> Go watch my fight with God.
• 26:12
  >> I watched your fight with [ __ ] I was
• 26:13
  going to try to post it the other day.
• 26:15
  You you beat the [ __ ] out of um Jordan
• 26:18
  Tutu. It popped up the other day. God,
• 26:20
  you start
• 26:21
  >> He didn't. DUDE, YOU JUSTOP
• 26:24
  CAME IN. I I got the [ __ ] off like the
• 26:27
  major seal. Oh,
• 26:29
  >> he smoked me. Like I I I GOT MY HAND AND
• 26:31
  I STOOD UP and he threw his gloves in my
• 26:33
  face and
• 26:34
  >> he tried to get you off the bat
• 26:35
  >> and I was like I grabbed him. I'm like,
• 26:37
  "Is this really happening? Do I really
• 26:39
  have free reign to ruin this guy's
• 26:41
  face?" And it was good.
• 26:42
  >> I got to give Goddard though a shout
• 26:44
  out. He was so tough.
• 26:47
  >> We're talking about tough, but I don't
• 26:50
  know if all the guys in a reputation. So
• 26:54
  it's weird, right? Because you got some
• 26:56
  guys that that Goddard was probably
• 26:57
  tougher than some of the bigger names
• 26:59
  that we'll talk about.
• 27:00
  >> But some guys who are so tough don't
• 27:02
  ever get the name.
• 27:04
  >> I agree.
• 27:04
  >> They don't get the respect. Even though
• 27:06
  they beat up the guys who were like,
• 27:07
  "Whoa, look out for this guy. Goddard
• 27:09
  maybe beat up two or three of those
• 27:10
  guys." Same thing happens to go scorers.
• 27:12
  You know, they
• 27:13
  >> Yeah, that's true.
• 27:14
  >> They score so many goals [laughter] in.
• 27:16
  >> There's some guys that don't get enough
• 27:17
  credit goal scorers.
• 27:18
  >> Well, they make a lot of money. They're
• 27:20
  >> There's There it is. Like, you're still
• 27:21
  making money,
• 27:22
  >> but it's just weird how that works,
• 27:23
  right? Because there's guys from every
• 27:25
  era of hockey that is like super tough
• 27:29
  where like it's like underground people
• 27:31
  know don't don't [ __ ] with that guy. But
• 27:33
  like above ground people like oh who's
• 27:35
  that guy? I he doesn't seem all that
• 27:36
  tough.
• 27:37
  >> That difference making 500 and a million
• 27:40
  back in the day.
• 27:41
  >> Yeah. These guys are all getting paid
• 27:43
  now. Big time money.
• 27:44
  >> Weird how that is. Like Goddard's an
• 27:46
  example. You know I think Eric Karens is
• 27:48
  an example too.
• 27:50
  >> He was tough as [ __ ] Big dude. They be
• 27:52
  like, "Oh, well, he's 6'5 or 6'6. He
• 27:54
  should be tough."
• 27:55
  >> Big D, man.
• 27:56
  >> He got caught by Craig Ruby one time.
• 27:57
  Boy,
• 27:58
  >> that's that's another guy who's tough as
• 28:00
  nails, too.
• 28:02
  >> Anybody anybody can play a thousand
• 28:04
  games in the league.
• 28:05
  >> Yeah.
• 28:06
  >> And play that role.
• 28:08
  >> Yep.
• 28:08
  >> It's
• 28:09
  >> not many.
• 28:10
  >> It's incredible.
• 28:11
  >> Not many. I want to say there's four
• 28:13
  there's four. Tyomi's got the most
• 28:14
  fighting majors in NHL history. It's
• 28:16
  like 339 or something. And then there's
• 28:19
  I think Tiger Williams. Brashier might
• 28:21
  be up in there.
• 28:22
  >> Shamco might be up there.
• 28:24
  >> I don't know if these there's only I
• 28:25
  think four guys with north of 300
• 28:27
  fights, but that's just incredible. Like
• 28:30
  I I think I had about 90 any
• 28:31
  >> Tim Hunter actually. I couldn't imagine
• 28:33
  having 300.
• 28:35
  >> Yeah. All of them against triple that
• 28:36
  amount. You know what I mean? Tim Hunter
• 28:38
  who doesn't isn't like considered a
• 28:40
  heavy heavy but he was a killer.
• 28:42
  >> His nose was a heavyweight.
• 28:44
  >> Oh my [laughter]
• 28:46
  you watched it. You watch it on channel
• 28:49
  two and you and you want to flip, you
• 28:50
  know, between commercials and his nose
• 28:52
  on channel 4. [laughter]
• 28:55
  >> Dave Brown, Philadelphia. Did you
• 28:58
  boy
• 29:00
  that's another channel Dave Brown?
• 29:03
  >> What? No.
• 29:04
  >> Oh, that's interesting.
• 29:05
  >> So, he was
• 29:06
  >> that guy's by the way. Not really. Not
• 29:09
  really. He's a wonderful man. I love
• 29:10
  Dave Brown. He's a guy. He's a greatest
• 29:13
  dude. But he was crazy. Yeah, you he's a
• 29:16
  big talked about long lanky man.
• 29:18
  >> Lefty little short sleeve on his jersey
• 29:20
  >> and he's on task.
• 29:22
  >> He talked People talk about Dave Brown
• 29:24
  like they talk about Twister.
• 29:25
  >> Yeah.
• 29:25
  >> Oh yeah.
• 29:25
  >> Brownie Brown was one of the guys in
• 29:29
  that in that era. And my first year that
• 29:32
  I got called up, Brian Sutter was the
• 29:34
  coach and we were playing Philly and I'm
• 29:36
  playing and of course this is like my
• 29:39
  second or third game. So I'm doing my I
• 29:41
  still to the all through my career get
• 29:43
  half that center line and Dave and I
• 29:45
  bumped a couple times and then we went
• 29:47
  both went over to like where the penalty
• 29:49
  box in the old bar and started
• 29:50
  stretching talking to each other and it
• 29:52
  was casual talk cuz I know Brownie and
• 29:54
  he knows me but you know basically we're
• 29:56
  going to get busy. Brian pulled me out
• 29:57
  of the game
• 29:58
  >> and I think it was probably the best
• 30:00
  thing for me at that point because I I
• 30:02
  didn't have nowhere near the experience
• 30:04
  that Dave had
• 30:05
  >> and he could have fed me my lunch and
• 30:06
  really changed my career. So I give or
• 30:08
  or it made it done the other way. Who
• 30:10
  knows? But I think at that point was
• 30:12
  probably the right thing to do.
• 30:13
  >> He played in Saskatoon, too, didn't he?
• 30:14
  In the Western League.
• 30:15
  >> Okay. Saskatoon had all at the same
• 30:17
  time.
• 30:18
  >> Joey Kosher, Wendell Clark, Dave Brown.
• 30:22
  >> Oh, yeah. Yeah.
• 30:23
  >> Dave Stanley or Bri.
• 30:26
  Yeah. Uh,
• 30:29
  uh, freaking Stanley.
• 30:31
  >> I know. I forget his first name, too.
• 30:32
  >> Yeah, I just did. Yeah. And there was
• 30:35
  >> Kevin Stanley. No,
• 30:36
  >> it'll come to me in a second. And they
• 30:38
  were that was that was a team we came up
• 30:40
  in the heels of. So th those guys had I
• 30:43
  mean Wendell was running people over in
• 30:46
  junior and all that confidence that he
• 30:48
  gained with those other guys in the box
• 30:49
  took it to the took it.
• 30:50
  >> Can we just can we talk about Wendell
• 30:52
  for a minute because when Wendell Clark
• 30:54
  got drafted the Toronto Maple Leafs.
• 30:56
  >> You [clears throat] I was I was I'm
• 30:58
  obviously younger than Wendell
• 30:59
  >> first.
• 31:00
  >> First overall and he would got drafted
• 31:02
  as a defenseman and never played one
• 31:04
  shift in the NHL as a defenseman. He got
• 31:06
  played left wing.
• 31:07
  >> Not only did he get drafted as
• 31:08
  defenseman, he won defenseman of the
• 31:10
  year in the CHL.
• 31:12
  >> Yeah. And they said, "No, no, no.
• 31:13
  >> He's the best defenseman in the in the
• 31:15
  entire CHL." And they dropped him like,
• 31:17
  "Hey, you want to play rightwing?"
• 31:19
  >> Sure. [laughter]
• 31:20
  >> But this guy came in and
• 31:22
  >> what was when 5'11?
• 31:25
  >> Is that being generous even?
• 31:26
  >> Probably being generous.
• 31:27
  >> And he was like 185 pounds machine.
• 31:29
  >> Yeah. 185 to 200 depending on the day.
• 31:32
  depending on the year that whatever when
• 31:34
  he first came in at 18 185 probably
• 31:37
  >> and being in Ottawa like the senators
• 31:39
  weren't around then. So we had the
• 31:41
  Montreal Canadians and Toronto Maple
• 31:42
  Leafs hockey night in Canada on the
• 31:44
  English Channel and you know the
• 31:46
  Montreal Canadians on the French
• 31:47
  channel. I remember watching Wendell
• 31:49
  Clark come into the league and just
• 31:52
  dismantling the league, running guys
• 31:55
  over like murdering guys with body
• 31:57
  checks. That wrist shot was a weapon.
• 32:00
  scored goals and then he fought guy he
• 32:02
  fought proby. I don't have like
• 32:04
  >> Well, he had no business fighting Bob
• 32:07
  >> Punch like it watching just him fight
• 32:10
  >> just the R like the craziness in him and
• 32:13
  and where he would throw those from
• 32:16
  >> Los
• 32:18
  No fear. There was no fear in threw
• 32:21
  down.
• 32:21
  >> He was he was better knock right down.
• 32:23
  That's what I'm trying to right down the
• 32:25
  pipe. Either he had caught with your
• 32:27
  head down. It's over.
• 32:28
  >> He knocked out Bruce Bell in
• 32:31
  >> Yes. And did he break his leg or
• 32:33
  something too?
• 32:33
  >> Then he knocked out Dave Mackey with a
• 32:35
  left hook and Mackey I was on Don Cher's
• 32:38
  rocket when I was a kid and I watched
• 32:40
  all
• 32:41
  >> I love you Don Cherry. I love you to
• 32:43
  death.
• 32:44
  >> Someone should ask Don Cherry
• 32:46
  >> to just sign off on it and come up with
• 32:48
  like now now it' be digital obviously
• 32:50
  but you could easily [clears throat] go
• 32:51
  to Netflix and go every year we're going
• 32:52
  to do a Don Cherry series.
• 32:54
  >> Oh my god.
• 32:54
  >> You know that'd be kind of cool.
• 32:55
  >> I got obsessed with that. That's how I
• 32:57
  got
• 32:57
  >> Well, you're not going to get Don Mlan
• 32:58
  with him.
• 32:59
  >> Two good guys.
• 33:00
  >> Ron Mlan. That's right.
• 33:01
  >> He's a nice guy. He just is
• 33:04
  >> Daryl Stanley.
• 33:05
  >> Daryl Stanley. That's it.
• 33:06
  >> Daryl Stanley. Who the tough guy was?
• 33:08
  >> He want still there. It just takes a
• 33:10
  little bit to get started. Some
• 33:11
  >> Well, they you hear what happened in
• 33:12
  Canada now? They're not doing Hockey
• 33:14
  Night Canada doing cricket. [laughter]
• 33:16
  Is that what I heard
• 33:16
  >> on CBC? So, Hockey Night in Canada moved
• 33:19
  from CBC to a different channel. They're
• 33:21
  not calling it Hockey Night Canada
• 33:23
  anymore, which is
• 33:24
  >> so blasphemy. blast me. Thank you.
• 33:26
  >> It's like the old TSN.
• 33:27
  >> They have cricket on there now.
• 33:28
  >> Well, they're calling, aren't they?
• 33:30
  Hockey night with Trump. I think he
• 33:31
  tried to change it. [laughter] Hockey
• 33:33
  >> night
• 33:35
  TSN still.
• 33:36
  >> Hockey night in US in Canada.
• 33:38
  >> It's Yeah, it's changed.
• 33:41
  >> Yeah, they are. I see it every day on
• 33:42
  Twitter, man.
• 33:43
  >> He's no more Howie Wanganger. Used to be
• 33:46
  such an awesome thing that you know
• 33:47
  >> remember Don used to sharp so many
• 33:49
  people.
• 33:49
  >> Hockey night. Hockey night Canada
• 33:52
  >> Maple Leaf Gardens. You go in and play
• 33:53
  the Leafs. Who's a little puck that used
• 33:55
  to teach?
• 33:55
  >> Peter Puck.
• 33:57
  >> With Howie Mer.
• 33:58
  >> Yes. Howie [laughter]
• 33:59
  Howie Mer.
• 34:00
  >> And then Howie Wanger was his was
• 34:02
  >> what?
• 34:03
  >> Howie Wanganger. He was catching on of
• 34:04
  Howie and he was doing camps all around
• 34:07
  Canada. I think people got got Wanganger
• 34:09
  and Meeker mixed up for some reason.
• 34:12
  [laughter]
• 34:14
  >> Naturally.
• 34:15
  >> I mean Iique
• 34:19
  Wang to me. How did
• 34:20
  >> I I don't know.
• 34:21
  >> I tell you what, man. I grew up watching
• 34:23
  because we didn't have any besides the
• 34:24
  blues. You can't watch anything in, you
• 34:26
  know, way out in Pacific, Missouri. But
• 34:28
  my dad would get me Rockam Sakum tapes.
• 34:31
  >> Well, you didn't get cable out there,
• 34:32
  did you?
• 34:32
  >> No,
• 34:33
  >> we didn't cable. [laughter]
• 34:36
  >> No, we didn't. When I was young, I
• 34:37
  didn't [ __ ] cable. I remember trying to
• 34:39
  go through the channels and there was
• 34:40
  one channel that was squibbly with like
• 34:42
  a girl and I think it was like a a porn
• 34:45
  channel maybe
• 34:46
  >> or like a romant
• 34:50
  if it's a porn channel you should be
• 34:52
  able to tell. Yeah.
• 34:53
  >> No, cuz it was blocked out. It was
• 34:55
  scribbly. It was scribbly and maybe it
• 34:57
  was like a romance whatever it was and
• 34:58
  I'd be like what's going on here and my
• 35:01
  mom would come in.
• 35:03
  [laughter]
• 35:04
  She
• 35:04
  >> what are you watching? I go nothing.
• 35:05
  >> You had a remote porn. remote.
• 35:07
  >> Imagine doing that now and finding the
• 35:10
  driply station and then you got to jump
• 35:12
  up and run over to the
• 35:14
  >> Hey, [laughter]
• 35:15
  I'll tell you I I will say this and I
• 35:16
  don't have this clipped off, but it's
• 35:17
  fine. But my my billet family in Windsor
• 35:20
  was 75 years old.
• 35:22
  >> They would watch me sleep
• 35:24
  >> and they never had a
• 35:26
  >> Did they hold your hand?
• 35:27
  >> Kind of. They never had like a son. They
• 35:29
  had five daughters. They were all out of
• 35:31
  the house, just so you know. And uh I
• 35:33
  came in like a psychopath. My parents
• 35:35
  are lenient as hell. They were very
• 35:37
  disciplined. They were very And I was
• 35:39
  like, "Okay." But they had cable
• 35:42
  downstairs and I don't think they
• 35:44
  realized
• 35:45
  >> they had the spanked vision.
• 35:46
  >> I don't [laughter] think his lotion
• 35:51
  towels
• 35:52
  >> vivid TV on that that they paid for
• 35:55
  vivid.
• 35:56
  >> And I'm down there the whole time like
• 35:58
  Cam's downstairs all the time.
• 35:59
  >> Why is Cam SO DEHYDRATED? EVERY TIME
• 36:01
  THEY'D WALK DOWN, THEY'D BE SLOW cuz
• 36:03
  they were 75 years old and THEY LIKE
• 36:04
  THIS DONE. I'M LIKE, "AH, WE'RE COMING
• 36:06
  DOWN, CAM. Clean up."
• 36:09
  >> Jesus Christ. Where's They had a camera
• 36:12
  on them. [laughter]
• 36:14
  >> They didn't know where technology was.
• 36:16
  >> WORING ABOUT YOU BEING DOWNSTAIRS
• 36:17
  LOOKING AT THEIR WATER BILL.
• 36:19
  >> They did it on purpose. Did you flip it
• 36:21
  over to that beautiful painting with the
• 36:24
  big furry head guy, Bob Ross?
• 36:26
  >> Yeah. Rosy boy.
• 36:28
  >> That's who you flipped it to, right? You
• 36:29
  haven't sold any of his paintings.
• 36:30
  They're worth a billion.
• 36:31
  >> That's not my paintbrush in your hands.
• 36:32
  >> So Bob Ross, I remember my dad would
• 36:35
  watch Bob Ross and like
• 36:36
  >> fantastic.
• 36:37
  >> And I hated it, right? I'm like,
• 36:39
  >> this is terri. I HATE THAT. AND you're
• 36:42
  like, ah,
• 36:43
  >> five minutes in
• 36:45
  >> I like Bob Ross.
• 36:46
  >> Beautiful.
• 36:48
  >> Beautiful man.
• 36:49
  >> He's got some things.
• 36:51
  >> Watch the documentary.
• 36:53
  >> The idea. [laughter]
• 36:55
  His paintings are still in a secure area
• 36:57
  that he hasn't sold. Like he's got like
• 37:00
  literally hundreds of millions of
• 37:01
  dollar. I know. But his like family, no
• 37:03
  one.
• 37:04
  >> Just give us the tip of the ice.
• 37:05
  >> Longer hair.
• 37:06
  >> I think he sniffed around a little bit
• 37:07
  and he did a couple things.
• 37:09
  >> He got a little shady.
• 37:10
  >> Yeah, I think
• 37:11
  >> Bob had a uh wasn't just happy little
• 37:13
  trees
• 37:15
  >> and the happy mountain in the back.
• 37:16
  >> Happy little trees with the stream here.
• 37:18
  Look at the flow of the river.
• 37:20
  [laughter]
• 37:21
  Somebody spends a lot of time uh
• 37:24
  watching a little Bob Ross.
• 37:25
  >> I love Bob Ross. So do I.
• 37:27
  >> Early in the morning with the PJs off.
• 37:31
  >> I wish I knew how to paint.
• 37:32
  >> This episode's gone straight down the
• 37:34
  toilet.
• 37:34
  >> Yeah. Buckle it up, Cam. [laughter]
• 37:37
  >> So [snorts] uh so we go back to the
• 37:39
  billet families cuz I don't know if Did
• 37:41
  you talk Did you talk about your blet?
• 37:44
  You didn't really talk about your
• 37:44
  >> We kind of got to it. It was two
• 37:46
  families. They were very very nice.
• 37:47
  >> Yeah. Um, but it was it was a good
• 37:50
  experience. That's why I learned about
• 37:51
  poutine.
• 37:52
  >> Oh, yeah.
• 37:52
  >> Pontang. No, not that one.
• 37:54
  >> Not that too. That too though.
• 37:56
  >> I remember eating that first [ __ ]
• 37:57
  learning about that.
• 37:58
  >> But poutine punani in gravy.
• 38:00
  >> Punani.
• 38:01
  >> Uh, if you don't put ketchup on your
• 38:03
  poutine, you're not eating it right.
• 38:05
  >> Really?
• 38:05
  >> Yes. No one ever.
• 38:07
  >> I've never heard no one ever.
• 38:08
  >> I hung out with a girl one time and she
• 38:10
  ate poutine and it turned me off.
• 38:12
  >> You've never?
• 38:13
  >> Yeah, cuz I knew she's have to take a
• 38:14
  dump and like
• 38:15
  >> because she used her fingers. Trust me,
• 38:17
  >> you open their mouth open. I'm like
• 38:22
  mouth open.
• 38:22
  >> Are we going to have like private
• 38:24
  sidebars? You know, okay. Coming from
• 38:26
  you. Coming from [laughter] you.
• 38:28
  >> We're all over the place. It doesn't
• 38:29
  matter. We entertain the people.
• 38:31
  >> My first year I got to Sbury and uh my
• 38:34
  brother was the overager, so he had an
• 38:36
  apartment.
• 38:38
  >> Oh, sorry. [laughter]
• 38:39
  Do they let you guys live together?
• 38:41
  >> No.
• 38:41
  >> All right. And I
• 38:42
  >> All right. Buckle up, guys. We got
• 38:43
  another River stories coming up.
• 38:45
  [laughter]
• 38:45
  OH, CHIRPING.
• 38:49
  >> Chirpy poo
• 38:51
  >> coming from this guy.
• 38:52
  >> I'm going to drive to Kansas City. It'll
• 38:53
  be perfect. Late loyally. [laughter]
• 38:57
  >> I got a 2hour trip. Hey, can I put a
• 38:59
  Jamie River story on, please? [laughter]
• 39:01
  >> Hey. Hey. You're welcome. Okay. You're
• 39:04
  [ __ ] welcome.
• 39:04
  >> I love a fight over there.
• 39:06
  >> We We all love each other [laughter] for
• 39:08
  the most part.
• 39:09
  >> NO, I'M GOOD.
• 39:12
  I'M NOT I'M NOT TO SCORE EVER AGAIN.
• 39:15
  [laughter]
• 39:16
  EVER AGAIN. WE GIVE YOU ENTERTAINMENT.
• 39:18
  That's all that matters. We'll let him
• 39:19
  swim all by himself over here.
• 39:21
  >> Oh man. Oh man.
• 39:23
  >> My first year in
• 39:24
  >> I knew it wouldn't take long to get you
• 39:25
  back. [laughter]
• 39:29
  >> I thought there was a question that was
• 39:30
  asked. [laughter]
• 39:31
  I know you [ __ ] don't listen to
• 39:33
  anything.
• 39:34
  >> I'm sorry. Go ahead.
• 39:35
  >> He's crying. I'm done.
• 39:37
  >> He's crying.
• 39:38
  >> I'm done. I had a wonderful family. It's
• 39:39
  over. You're still alive.
• 39:41
  >> Everything's good. It was good. No, no
• 39:43
  drama.
• 39:44
  >> Brother, she had a great story.
• 39:46
  >> Sean [laughter] had
• 39:48
  no go.
• 39:49
  >> It's probably best.
• 39:49
  >> We only got a couple. We only do 40
• 39:51
  minutes. We Sean wants
• 39:53
  >> Can you please not leave us hanging?
• 39:55
  >> Yes.
• 39:57
  >> Be not IN YOUR MOUTH. [laughter]
• 40:00
  >> YOU'RE finding You're finding a way to
• 40:02
  keep up with my setup, man.
• 40:03
  >> You're finding a way to keep up.
• 40:04
  >> You guys are playing tic tac. Jamie,
• 40:06
  tell a story. And we're going to wrap
• 40:08
  up. We're going to wrap up this episode.
• 40:09
  Honestly, it wasn't.
• 40:10
  >> No, no, no, no. Don't be LIKE THAT.
• 40:12
  >> I'M NOT. I I DON'T CARE. TELL US ANOTHER
• 40:14
  STORY.
• 40:14
  >> Tell [laughter]
• 40:17
  us.
• 40:18
  >> I'M STARTING TO FEEL BAD.
• 40:19
  >> NO, Loie ruined the podcast. [snorts]
• 40:22
  >> Your [laughter] brother Your brother
• 40:24
  wants some air time.
• 40:25
  >> My brother. Oh,
• 40:26
  >> yeah. Yeah. Just Just say just say and
• 40:28
  then we'll wrap everything up.
• 40:29
  >> He doesn't like curtains.
• 40:31
  >> Come on. [laughter]
• 40:33
  >> What' you do? What happened to you? What
• 40:35
  did he do?
• 40:35
  >> What did they do to you, Jamie?
• 40:37
  [laughter] There are some Sean River
• 40:39
  stories that are out there, I tell you.
• 40:40
  >> Doesn't see him the other night.
• 40:42
  >> Yeah. Yeah. He He loves you guys.
• 40:44
  >> The people in the chat room want to hear
• 40:45
  it.
• 40:46
  >> There's 400 people in the chat room
• 40:48
  right now. [laughter]
• 40:49
  >> 401.
• 40:50
  >> Yeah.
• 40:52
  >> No, it's really not that great. But um I
• 40:55
  what I was going to say is I had the
• 40:56
  pleasure of playing with my brother on
• 40:57
  the same team. That was
• 40:59
  >> just cool [ __ ]
• 40:59
  >> It was cool as [ __ ] He he he went to
• 41:02
  college, played two years at St.
• 41:03
  Lawrence University. They won the ECAC
• 41:05
  like two years in a row and then he's
• 41:07
  not a big guy. You guys have met my
• 41:08
  brother. He's a smaller guy. He played
• 41:09
  defense in an era that nobody who was 5
• 41:12
  foot n played defense pretty much.
• 41:14
  >> Yep.
• 41:15
  >> Being generous for him, huh?
• 41:16
  >> Uh maybe 5'8. Yeah. Um so they said you
• 41:19
  got to go play junior hockey to show
• 41:20
  that you could be play in a tough
• 41:22
  league. So he had already been drafted
• 41:24
  by the Sbury Wolves. So he left college,
• 41:26
  went played uh in Sbury, put up 80
• 41:28
  points as a defenseman.
• 41:30
  >> Yeah.
• 41:31
  >> That's nothing compared to what you did.
• 41:32
  Well, yeah, but that's the
• 41:34
  >> How many did you get?
• 41:35
  >> 120.
• 41:35
  >> I mean, come on. With a mullet.
• 41:37
  >> With big ass mullet. Oh, yeah.
• 41:39
  >> Well, Jamie, find that picture and we'll
• 41:41
  put that out there.
• 41:42
  >> I don't think I got 120 points in my
• 41:44
  junior and pro career.
• 41:46
  >> No, [laughter]
• 41:48
  >> we know.
• 41:48
  >> TripleA. Yeah,
• 41:49
  >> I got 1,800 penalty.
• 41:51
  >> You do Sean was my first year was his
• 41:54
  second year and he was captain him and
• 41:56
  Terry Chideroni. And Terry Chiron was he
• 41:59
  was like uh the Walmart version of
• 42:02
  Wendell Clark.
• 42:04
  >> Well, [laughter] Jesus Christ mean this
• 42:06
  poor man's gonna love that team's going
• 42:09
  to come find you.
• 42:10
  >> Be nice to him.
• 42:11
  >> I love Jitter.
• 42:12
  >> He's the wall
• 42:14
  of Wendell Clark.
• 42:15
  >> Okay, but [laughter]
• 42:16
  how else would you someone who played
• 42:18
  just like him but was not as good. He
• 42:21
  was drafted the Toronto Maple Leafs at
• 42:23
  almost at the same time too. like he was
• 42:24
  right there.
• 42:25
  >> $100 billion company
• 42:26
  >> in Yeah, it's not bad. Call me Walmart.
• 42:28
  Hell, give me that Walmart money right
• 42:30
  now.
• 42:30
  >> Yeah, LET'S MAKE HIM A SPONSOR.
• 42:32
  [laughter]
• 42:32
  >> BILLION COMPANY.
• 42:34
  >> UM, he's the
• 42:35
  >> He lived on his own. I lived with a
• 42:37
  family that was like 10 minutes from
• 42:39
  where he lived and there were great
• 42:40
  people. Now, I will say that when they
• 42:44
  ask you like, "What kind of place do you
• 42:45
  want to live at?" You know, and my
• 42:46
  brother said, "Tell them you don't want
• 42:47
  to live with any kids, you know, because
• 42:49
  then they're you become like a brother
• 42:52
  and
• 42:53
  >> babysitter."
• 42:53
  >> Babysitter.
• 42:54
  >> Yeah, I did. My roll up. My first family
• 42:56
  I'm living with.
• 42:57
  >> They've got two kids. A son I'm 16 at
• 43:00
  this time. They have a son that's like
• 43:02
  17 and a daughter that's 15.
• 43:04
  >> Oh boy.
• 43:05
  >> Yeah. How old are you?
• 43:06
  >> Uh 16.
• 43:08
  >> Oh boy.
• 43:09
  >> Uhoh. I don't like where this is going.
• 43:11
  >> I keep going.
• 43:13
  >> Uh so
• 43:13
  >> No, keep going. No, no, no. Now I know.
• 43:16
  Keep going.
• 43:16
  >> As things progress
• 43:18
  >> Oh god.
• 43:18
  >> through uh the naturally that you know
• 43:21
  you become friends with people who are
• 43:23
  friends with
• 43:24
  >> Oh yeah. Yeah.
• 43:25
  >> the people you live with. And so things
• 43:27
  went a little sideways with one of her
• 43:29
  friends at some point. And so the
• 43:31
  parents were kind of on to it at one
• 43:33
  point. And and then in junior hockey
• 43:35
  back then, don't know about now, you'd
• 43:37
  go out on a Friday or Saturday night
• 43:39
  after a game with your teammates and no
• 43:41
  matter how old you are, you're drinking
• 43:42
  beer at that point. And I came stumbling
• 43:46
  home one night with said person [snorts]
• 43:49
  and I don't know what happened. I'm
• 43:51
  lying in the living room in the morning
• 43:54
  with said person and
• 43:56
  >> what was his name? [laughter]
• 43:59
  >> I'm surprised you didn't say that first,
• 44:01
  but go ahead Jamie. My bad.
• 44:02
  >> I'm not going to say names for the whole
• 44:03
  purpose of like, you know,
• 44:04
  >> he'll be fine. Sure.
• 44:05
  >> But the my billet dad, I wake up to him
• 44:09
  yelling at me.
• 44:13
  >> What's that? three with the D.
• 44:14
  [laughter]
• 44:14
  >> No, let's let him finish.
• 44:16
  >> That's weird.
• 44:17
  >> Let's let him finish, please.
• 44:19
  >> So, I wake up. I'm laying in the living
• 44:21
  room. I don't even know why I'm in the
• 44:23
  living room at this point. I can't
• 44:24
  remember anything. I look over, there's
• 44:26
  a person beside me. We're both on the
• 44:28
  floor. And then I look over this way and
• 44:31
  he's screaming at me and I'm like butt
• 44:33
  naked and he's like pointing at the door
• 44:35
  and I'm like, "What?" I look over
• 44:36
  there's like 4 in of snow in the foyer.
• 44:40
  I never closed the door when I came
• 44:41
  home. That's D. That's [laughter] He
• 44:43
  didn't give a [ __ ] about anything else.
• 44:44
  >> I don't know what he cared about. It was
• 44:45
  my last day there. Uh, I'll tell you.
• 44:47
  >> He cared about his heating bill.
• 44:48
  >> Oh, yeah. I moved moved out u and then
• 44:51
  went to uh remember Jim Weame?
• 44:53
  >> Yeah.
• 44:54
  >> His parents were my second billet
• 44:56
  family, the Weames. And they were older
• 44:58
  people. And Jim Weame was playing in the
• 45:00
  NHL at the time. They were great. But he
• 45:04
  had some health issues. So, fast forward
• 45:06
  to my second year. This is all my first
• 45:07
  year. My second year, I roll up to this
• 45:10
  house again. And I said, "No kids, you
• 45:11
  know, they have two sons that come out.
• 45:13
  One, they're both younger than me." I'm
• 45:14
  like, "Oh, man." You know,
• 45:16
  >> I don't want to do this crap. Anyways,
• 45:18
  Gary,
• 45:19
  >> where's the daughter? [snorts]
• 45:20
  >> No, no, there was two sons. Nope. Um, so
• 45:23
  Gary comes out. This dude comes out.
• 45:24
  He's got tattoos all over.
• 45:26
  >> And I'm like, "Okay." All right. He's
• 45:29
  got a beard. He's got tattoos. No shirt
• 45:31
  on to greet me.
• 45:32
  >> I'm like, "Okay, this might be my
• 45:34
  people."
• 45:34
  >> So Gary and Denise uh were awesome. They
• 45:38
  had a room in the basement for me and uh
• 45:41
  they showed me, hey,
• 45:42
  >> leather suit and the house.
• 45:43
  >> This is your room. You got your own
• 45:45
  bathroom. And then they they had a bar
• 45:47
  and they had a bar with all sorts of
• 45:49
  alcohol and beer. Boy, Harry just goes,
• 45:51
  >> I got one rule.
• 45:54
  >> Whatever you drink, you replace.
• 45:56
  >> There you go.
• 45:56
  >> That's it. And so they were the most
• 45:59
  amazing people still to this day. You
• 46:01
  know, we message on Facebook and
• 46:03
  whatnot. And they were awesome. So we'd
• 46:05
  have all the like not all the team
• 46:06
  parties, a lot of the team get
• 46:07
  togethers, you know, the get together
• 46:08
  before you go out
• 46:09
  >> would be at our place and Gary would be
• 46:11
  down there mixing cocktails,
• 46:14
  >> driving you to the bar, picking you up.
• 46:16
  Yep. He was awesome.
• 46:17
  >> Taking care of you.
• 46:18
  >> They were uh instrumental in
• 46:20
  >> like my success, too. Like cuz my first
• 46:23
  year was bumpy in Sudbury. It was I I
• 46:25
  was playing right wing on the fourth
• 46:26
  line at one point. It was like it was
• 46:28
  weird. We had a really good team.
• 46:29
  >> You got a big problem with right wing
• 46:31
  fourth liners, do you? That's a damn
• 46:34
  good [laughter] point.
• 46:35
  >> That's a damn good point. When you're
• 46:36
  draft
• 46:39
  >> when you're drafted as a left-handed
• 46:41
  defenseman [laughter]
• 46:43
  saying
• 46:44
  >> first round.
• 46:45
  >> Yeah. Eighth overall. Um
• 46:47
  >> so, but no, they they were a big part of
• 46:49
  it. They become
• 46:50
  >> part of your family and they didn't try
• 46:52
  to parent me ever. Like do your thing
• 46:54
  and whatnot. Here are the rules. They
• 46:56
  you know she would do my laundry and
• 46:57
  they would cook the meals and like
• 46:59
  everything you need good food and like
• 47:01
  >> you have a bathroom your own that's huge
• 47:04
  as a bill back in the day
• 47:05
  >> it was cool they were great basement
• 47:07
  basically
• 47:08
  >> to myself if I want to hang out or
• 47:10
  whatnot
• 47:11
  >> listener these kids got it good now just
• 47:13
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• 47:15
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• 47:42
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• 47:44
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• 47:44
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