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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Table Talk here at the Philadelphia Sports Table
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  Speaker 1: podcast show, the longest running weekly Philly sports podcast show
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  Speaker 1: in the world, over twelve and a half years strong.
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  Speaker 1: Got a great discussion coming your ways. We start diving
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  Speaker 1: into college football prospects that may be able to make
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  Speaker 1: a positive transition over to the NFL as the NFL Draft.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like that's going to be right around the corner,
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  Speaker 1: so joining us one of our good friends from A
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  Speaker 1: a lot of NFLFT analysis for A to z Sports
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  Speaker 1: and also he is one of the hosts of the
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  Speaker 1: Raffino and Joe Show. Great podcast. We've got our good
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  Speaker 1: friend Joe dal Leone. Buddy Man, thanks so much for
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  Speaker 1: taking the time to join us again. I know you
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  Speaker 1: were on recently, I think back in October, and I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate you taking the time again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, I always have a blast chopping it
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  Speaker 2: up and talking ball with you, so couldn't be more
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  Speaker 2: excited to dig in today.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be great to get into this college football
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  Speaker 1: scene and specifically the prospects that we're really going to
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  Speaker 1: be following over the course of these next few months
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  Speaker 1: as the NFL Draft again, like I said, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like it's gonna be right around the corner, even though
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  Speaker 1: we're still in the midst of the bowl season, in
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  Speaker 1: the midst of the NFL playoffs, that are right around
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  Speaker 1: the corner here, Joe, So I know they're I want
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  Speaker 1: to get the the conversation started by something that we've
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  Speaker 1: recently talked about here on our podcast platform with my
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  Speaker 1: other co hosts is various college football programs throughout the
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  Speaker 1: United States, like Notre Dame this year, who took themselves
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  Speaker 1: out of bowl consideration. But it seems like we're seeing
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  Speaker 1: more and more of this happening year after year, and
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  Speaker 1: we're also seeing players who don't want to play in
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  Speaker 1: bowl games for fear of getting injured before the NFL Draft.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and sometimes I think this is totally understandable.
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  Speaker 1: We've been seeing that happen with players now for quite
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  Speaker 1: some time, like well over a decade here. As a
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  Speaker 1: college football fan, I kind of go back and forth
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  Speaker 1: with this particular issue because I want to see some
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  Speaker 1: of my favorite college football players on the field and
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  Speaker 1: whatever bowl game it's going to be, specifically around the
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  Speaker 1: holiday season. It's one of the great parts about the
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  Speaker 1: holiday season for me. It's just been a tradition. You
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  Speaker 1: watch bowl games, you see these amazing college football players
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  Speaker 1: who may end up going to the NFL as well,
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  Speaker 1: but at times we don't see them. That's said, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just wondering, you know, what are your thoughts on this
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  Speaker 1: phenomenon in general that we've seen over the past decade here? So,
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  Speaker 1: and do you think there's there's anything that the NC
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  Speaker 1: Double A or perhaps the conferences can really do about
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  Speaker 1: it in the years to come? Here? What are your thoughts?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I honestly, I don't think that there really is
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  Speaker 2: much that can be done, because it's just where we've
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  Speaker 2: trended towards. The sport has changed rapidly, and there's not
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  Speaker 2: value in guys that are expected to declare that are
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  Speaker 2: going to be early draft picks. There's no value in
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  Speaker 2: them playing in these games because of risk of injury.
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  Speaker 2: The season's already capped off, You're not competing for a
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  Speaker 2: national championship. What's really the point. Everything that you could
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  Speaker 2: have accomplished had been accomplished on the field. One more
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  Speaker 2: game that's effectively in exhibitions not going to do much damage.
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  Speaker 3: For your draft stock.
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  Speaker 2: But from the team perspective, I think definitely the value
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  Speaker 2: and the importance of bowl games has gone down. The
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  Speaker 2: premiere bulls that have existed for a very long time
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  Speaker 2: that have been the staple of the college football postseason,
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  Speaker 2: like the Rose Bowl, the Cotton Bowl, if yes, well
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  Speaker 2: all that that are now features in the college football playoff.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to remain significant entities. But I don't see
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  Speaker 2: it that we need to have some of these, like
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  Speaker 2: really half as bowl games.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate and.
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  Speaker 2: Love the unique ones like the Xbox Bowl went all
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  Speaker 2: in on being unique and having fun with you know,
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  Speaker 2: master Chief handing over the trophy, and the Pop Tart
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  Speaker 2: Bowl is always an eclectic uh you know part of
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  Speaker 2: this this whole process. You see the bad Boy Mower's
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  Speaker 2: bull throwing clippings of of mowing clippings on Terry Smith
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  Speaker 2: after the game, and having the ones that understand the
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  Speaker 2: playing into the bit. I think their value of filling
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  Speaker 2: the airway or filling the you know, the time slots
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  Speaker 2: during the during the holidays for ESPN, but for some
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  Speaker 2: of these other ones it might not be as necessary.
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  Speaker 2: And I think a lot of these teams realize that
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  Speaker 2: if they're in a situation where they're transitioning coaches, they're
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  Speaker 2: just moving on to the next season. It's not really
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  Speaker 2: worth them going out there and play.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think in the two thousands, once we started
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  Speaker 1: seeing you know, whether it was the Chick fil A Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we we started seeing all these different bowls.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm an old man and growing up as
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  Speaker 1: a kid in the eighties and like the early nineties,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there were only a few bowls here and there,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the Sugar Bowl, Cotton Bowl, even Fiesta Bowl
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  Speaker 1: and Rose Bowl of course, and over the years, like
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned, I think because there are so many bowls,
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  Speaker 1: the bowl phenomenon has been devalued over the years. So again,
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  Speaker 1: why get hurt being in one of these type of
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  Speaker 1: bowls that that really doesn't have too too much value
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  Speaker 1: to it. The only value it really has is to
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  Speaker 1: maybe the NCAA into the conferences quite frankly, and to
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  Speaker 1: the network. So we're showing them so anyway I could
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  Speaker 1: can't we could have like an hour long discussion I
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  Speaker 1: think on this particular topic here, But Joe, I really
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  Speaker 1: wanted to dive into some of these these prospects, these
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  Speaker 1: college football prospects that we're going to see potentially transition
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  Speaker 1: over to the NFL. So let's start with the quarterback
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  Speaker 1: position here, because many of us football fans, we do
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  Speaker 1: we look towards that next generation of talent heading to
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  Speaker 1: the NFL, specifically the quarterback position. Argue, I believe the
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  Speaker 1: most important position in all of sports, one that absolutely
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  Speaker 1: gets the most scrutiny, in the most attention. Obviously, we've
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  Speaker 1: got Dante Moore out of Oregon, Fernando Mendoza out of Indiana,
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  Speaker 1: and Ty Simpson out of Alabama. You know they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be some of the top quarterback prospects here coming out
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  Speaker 1: into the NFL draft. But as we know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: every single year, there are quarterbacks that just don't make
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  Speaker 1: that transition well from the college ranks to the pro ranks.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if these three guys, you know, maybe fit
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  Speaker 1: that mold perhaps. So I'm wondering which quarterbacks, you know,
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  Speaker 1: whether they are in the top three, top five quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 1: do you think are really going to make that positive
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  Speaker 1: transition over to the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that those three guys are really the
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  Speaker 2: only ones that I would have in this discussion because
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  Speaker 2: there's a pretty big drop off after those players. There
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  Speaker 2: was a group of guys coming into this season that
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  Speaker 2: had a ton of potential, and some of them had
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  Speaker 2: played well but didn't make the leap necessary to enter
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  Speaker 2: into the discussion, and pretty much all of them are
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  Speaker 2: going back to school. Yeah, the North Sellers, the South
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  Speaker 2: Carolina quarterback, had an awesome Rechert freshman year, and he
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  Speaker 2: struggled a bit this season with less of a supporting cast.
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  Speaker 2: You also had Brendan Sorosby from Cincinnati who did really
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  Speaker 2: well and took the leap, but not enough to really
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  Speaker 2: solidify himself as a first rounder. He could end up
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  Speaker 2: doing that in the portal this year, going to a
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  Speaker 2: Big ten program, a SEC program, the right offense to
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  Speaker 2: be on the national stage like Fernana Mendoza just did.
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  Speaker 2: He could also enter the NFL draft, that was part
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  Speaker 2: of his announcement, but it doesn't seem like that's particularly
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  Speaker 2: likely because he's gonna make a lot of money in
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  Speaker 2: the portal and he'll get a chance to boost his
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  Speaker 2: draft stock overall. And then Josh Hoover was another guy
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  Speaker 2: who I was really intrigued by, who I thought showed
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  Speaker 2: signs and really showed what his arm talent was like
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  Speaker 2: at TCU. But he's jumping in the portal and he's
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  Speaker 2: also somebody that could be a riser for the twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty seven class that like middle class of quarterbacks doesn't exist.
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  Speaker 2: And I think it's like a phenomenon that we're now
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  Speaker 2: seeing in the NFL Draft, where these guys that have
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  Speaker 2: eligibility that maybe we're considering entering, it makes more sense
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  Speaker 2: for them to return, take the money, try and improve,
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  Speaker 2: and at the very worst, you're you're getting an extra
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  Speaker 2: paycheck before you jump to the league, and you're actually
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  Speaker 2: gonna probably be making less money as a mid to
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  Speaker 2: late round pick. The three guys, though, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: it's a necessary, foregone conclusion that Tys Simpson declares. From
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  Speaker 2: my understanding, he's got an extra year of eligibility. If
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  Speaker 2: he finishes things strong, maybe he pulls out the upset
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  Speaker 2: against Indiana, or he just a really good final game.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe he ends up deciding like, hey, I'm I can
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  Speaker 2: be a top ten pick. There's not a lot of options.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of quarterback desperate teams. Someone's going to
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  Speaker 2: take a swing on me. Dante More and Fana Mendoza
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  Speaker 2: are going to be really interesting to pay attention to,
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  Speaker 2: though for the next, you know, the coming weeks. I
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  Speaker 2: think that it's gonna come down to what a team
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  Speaker 2: values more. Do they want Mendoza, who's a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more ready to go right now, who's played more, who's
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  Speaker 2: a little bit older, who's got just like a tremendous
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  Speaker 2: natural feel for the game. Reminds me a lot of
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  Speaker 2: Matt Ryan the way that he plays. If they're looking
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  Speaker 2: for that type of a guy that they want to
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  Speaker 2: jump in right off the bat, they're going to go
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  Speaker 2: with Mendoza.
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  Speaker 3: If they want to go with somebody who's a little
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  Speaker 3: bit more.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to call him developmental because I think
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  Speaker 2: that Dante More could play really well early on, but
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  Speaker 2: he's twenty years old. He's got one full season as
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  Speaker 2: a full time starter, and he looked phenomenal this year
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  Speaker 2: at Oregon, but there is still some growth to be had,
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  Speaker 2: and his ceiling is significantly higher because he's so young,
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  Speaker 2: he hasn't really even come close to what he could
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  Speaker 2: fully become. So it comes down to the value there
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  Speaker 2: for teams and what they're looking for if they're looking
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  Speaker 2: to get somebody who's a little bit more higher upside,
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  Speaker 2: or if they're looking for somebody that's maybe a.
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  Speaker 3: Little bit more higher floor like Mendoza.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be interesting to watch for sure
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  Speaker 1: what happens, because I mean, we see it all the time.
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  Speaker 1: There are certain college quarterbacks that don't necessarily get their
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  Speaker 1: due during the combine process and during the you know,
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  Speaker 1: the weeks and months before the NFL draft, and then
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  Speaker 1: somehow they just come out and come on strong once
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  Speaker 1: they get to the league, once they have a great
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  Speaker 1: relationship with a coach that just manifests their talent. It's
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  Speaker 1: going to be really interesting to see in the years
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  Speaker 1: to come what happens with this particular quarterback draft class
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  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty six. But you know, we talk about
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks how important they are to the game. Something we
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  Speaker 1: talk about on this podcast platform a ton is offensive linemen.
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  Speaker 1: And if you don't have a strong offensive line, you're
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  Speaker 1: not going to be able to do anything in the
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  Speaker 1: National Football League where it's running the ball, passing the ball,
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  Speaker 1: pass pro whatever it is like, you are not going
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  Speaker 1: to be able to do anything. So there are so
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  Speaker 1: many teams in the NFL that desperately need strong offensive
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  Speaker 1: lines if the quarterback and the running backs are really
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  Speaker 1: going to make a difference in the future. A few teams, Browns, Raiders, Vices,
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  Speaker 1: they all have horrendous offensive lines likely going to be
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  Speaker 1: trying to draft some young talent to help protect their
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks and help the rushing attack as well. So, Joe,
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  Speaker 1: I'm wondering which offensive linemen are possibly going to maybe
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  Speaker 1: be that next Lane Johnson, the next Penny Sewell, or
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  Speaker 1: even Joe Thuni in this upcoming draft class. What are
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts here?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really actually think that there's really that
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  Speaker 2: type of a prospect in this year's class. There's not
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  Speaker 2: really a guy who's going to be a premier, elite
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  Speaker 2: player that steps right in and is going to be
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  Speaker 2: I think that there's a really good offensive line group
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  Speaker 2: where you could get some really solid starters. I think
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  Speaker 2: that ultimately a lot of these guys are going to
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  Speaker 2: come off the board to the middle to the end
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  Speaker 2: of the first round. Somebody could rise just from pure need.
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  Speaker 2: Because offensive linemen, as you talked about, are important, but
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  Speaker 2: there was not really a premier lineman that really revealed himself.
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  Speaker 2: Caleb Lomu and Spencer Fano from Utah or two guys
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  Speaker 2: that lead the discussion.
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  Speaker 3: There were the two tackles as Utah this year.
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  Speaker 2: Both put out some really good tape, but I think
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  Speaker 2: have some refinement needed. Fano, for me, is the higher
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  Speaker 2: rated player. I think that he's the better athlete of
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  Speaker 2: the two. I think that he's shown really good mobility
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  Speaker 2: and he's just that perfect mold for a right tackle,
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  Speaker 2: works really well on double teams, but needs to finish
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  Speaker 2: filling out his frame. Lomu had a really good twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty four season, and I didn't love his twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: five tape as much.
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  Speaker 3: He just didn't look as fluid.
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  Speaker 2: Something seems a little bit off on top of this,
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  Speaker 2: though that if we're looking at some of the other prospects.
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  Speaker 2: Francis Malinoa from Miami is a guy that I'm really
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  Speaker 2: intrigued by, and it wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: end up becoming one of the biggest risers in this class.
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  Speaker 2: He's the one of the tackles for Miami. He could
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  Speaker 2: end up playing in at guard or at tackle, depending
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  Speaker 2: on what teams value for what they're looking for. But
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  Speaker 2: I think that he's got such just stoutness, a really
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  Speaker 2: powerful anchor. He does everything right that you're looking for
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  Speaker 2: for alignment that can check multiple boxes. Then there's just
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  Speaker 2: ultimately a lot of guys that have question marks, like
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  Speaker 2: Katon Proctor. I don't know if he declares, but his
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  Speaker 2: tape's really consistent. He's extremely heavy. It feels like he's
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  Speaker 2: a little bit too heavy. If he was a lot lighter,
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  Speaker 2: I think that he'd be viewed a little bit differently
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  Speaker 2: because it impacts his ability to redirect and to recover.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll throw in your Connor lou the center from Auburn,
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  Speaker 2: is a really gifted prospect, but he suffered a serious
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  Speaker 2: injury in the middle of the season. That's probably gonna
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  Speaker 2: bump him later in this class, But he would have
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  Speaker 2: been somebody I would have taken in the first round
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  Speaker 2: because he's just that phenomenal of a center prospect.
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  Speaker 1: along with a discussion here, Joe, I want to talk
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: about the defense in particular because I know that you
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: specialize in evaluating the linebacker position leading up to every
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: NFL draft and I find it interesting so as an
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: Eagles fan, as a Philly sports fan again fan here,
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  Speaker 1: it's been baffling over the years. How just up until
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  Speaker 1: about two seasons ago, the Eagles front office just never
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  Speaker 1: prioritized the linebacker position. Then we get one Zach bond
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  Speaker 1: won Na, Kobe Dean, Jihad Campbell this past year in
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  Speaker 1: the draft, and it's like, oh, yeah, the linebacker position
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  Speaker 1: is pretty freaking important in this league. And we see
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  Speaker 1: how much success the Eagles have had in terms of
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  Speaker 1: their not just their linebacker corps, but how it's affected
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  Speaker 1: their defense in general. They've been dominant as of late.
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  Speaker 1: That being said, I'm wondering, which linebackers coming out of
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  Speaker 1: college this year do you think are really going to
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  Speaker 1: be some difference makers and even game changers in the
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  Speaker 1: NFL from the evaluation that you've done thus.
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  Speaker 2: For Yeah, the three guys that are again Gardner a
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  Speaker 2: lot of attention in the first round. Two guys that
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  Speaker 2: are clear off ball linebackers. Sunny Styles from Ohio State's
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  Speaker 2: a freakish athlete converted defensive back. He's just unreal with
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  Speaker 2: the space that he can cover because of his length six.
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  Speaker 3: Four all over the, field he's going to be somebody who.
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  Speaker 2: Tests at an unreal level at THE Nfl combine and
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  Speaker 2: he's my highest rated linebacker at the current moment because of.
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  Speaker 3: THAT. Cj allen is much more compact From.
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  Speaker 2: Georgia, he's you, know your truly inside backer that's got ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: Instincts not going to be as twitchy As Sonny styles,
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  Speaker 2: is but he's going to test pretty. Well AND i
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  Speaker 2: think that he's somebody who shows he's got a really
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  Speaker 2: underrated power that he can generate in short areas where
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  Speaker 2: he can evade and then also take on blockers with
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  Speaker 2: ease while making plays at the line of. Scrimmage and
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  Speaker 2: then the one guy WHO i almost don't even want
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  Speaker 2: to characterize him as a. LINEBACKER i think that he's
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  Speaker 2: just like a weapon and he's going to be a
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: deployable depending on the defensive coordinator that gets, him and
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  Speaker 2: THAT'S Rvl reese From Ohio.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: State he's played off ball this.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Year he stepped into a big role In Matt patricia's,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: defense And, patricia being a FORMER nfl defensive, coordinator capitalized
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: on his rare athletic skill set where you know he's
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: playing from, depth but he's also blitzing in the. Interior
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: he's also coming off the as a pass. Rusher he's
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: got a lot Of Micah parsons in, him BUT i
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: think that he's a better linebacker off ball Than Micah
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: parsons was when he jumped into the league and when
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: The cowboys tried to use him in that. MANNER i
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: think That reese is the type of player who goes
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: in the top, five could maybe go in the top,
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: three should be the first prospect off the board.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: That's not a quarterback that would be a game.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Wrecker it just depends on what team he lands, on
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: because you, know if he goes on a team that's
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: really bad and they're calling on him to do too,
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: much maybe his impact isn't seen for a couple of.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Years but he is a, crazy crazy athlete and one
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: that should be transformative for a.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: FRANCHISE i can't wait to see what this linebacker group
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: is going to do coming out of this, draft, too
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: BECAUSE i think more and, more even though THE nfl
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: yes is a passing league and in more of an offensive,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: league past couple of, seasons we've seen so many defenses step,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: up And i'm not sure offense certainly has the impact
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: that has had and will continue to. Have but defenses
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: are really starting to understand and figure out the offenses
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: in THE. Nfl SO i want TO i want to
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: continue talking about some some defensive prospects with, You, joe
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: AND i know The eagles. Are they're going to be
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: looking as well as other teams to add some defensive
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: linemen in this coming draft as they look to bolster
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: their pass rush interior defensive linemen as. Well in, FACT
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: i think a lot of teams are going to try
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: to really try to find that next diamond in the
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: rough and diamond in the, haystack kind of like The
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: eagles honestly have done over the years with a number
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: of players Like Moro jomo to name one in. Particular
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: i'm wondering which edge rushers would you you may have already,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: started have you been keeping your eyes on as we
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: look at some of these edge prospects?
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Here, yeah the the edge guys in this class a
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: bit of an underwhelming group as.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: WELL i think outside Of, reese there's to me.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Not really like a you, know a crazy you, know
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: clear cut, like, hey this guy's gonna step right in
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: and he's going to be a game. WRECKER i think
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: it's going to be a circumstance. Space But keldric falk
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: from From auburn is somebody who's going to get a
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: lot of. Attention he's, big, long, physical powerful guy WHO
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: i think that might benefit from bulking up and transitioning
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: to more of a three to four end instead of
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: being a four to three defensive. End if he does
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: need to go that, route he's probably gonna need to.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Lose a little bit.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Weight lose a little bit of weight because he was
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: listed at over two. Eighty on top of, this, though
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Ruben bain's been a bit of a controversial prospect because
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: he's not a very big. Athlete he's got a very
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: limited length that is below the requisite length that you
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: look for in edge. RUSHERS i think for, me he
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: reminds me a lot Of Collijah, kantsey who was a
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: really dynamic three tech who's on the lighter, side similar
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: size of just.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: An inch shorter than than Ruben, bain and his like
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: his ability just to upend interior offensive. Lineman it's get underneath,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: them but also being too quick for them to keep
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: up with is what make can't To canty dangerous AND
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: i think That bain is going to be able to
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: do that as. Well but there's gonna be a lot
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: of figuring out with this this edge, class because you
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: got Cash Is, howell who's not like a particularly long,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: guy but he's super you, know shifty and. Explosive and
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Our Mason thomas From oklahoma was a little bit banged
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: up this, year but he's also a you, know a
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: super twitchy guy who's got a lot of. Talent there
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: is gonna be a bit of a feeling out, PERIOD
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: i think over the next couple of months where we're figuring, Out,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: okay who are the some of the other edge guys
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: that are worth Going yeah at the end of the
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: first round or early in the.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Second, yeah all, right well, buddy BEFORE i let you,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: go we always like talk sleepers, here and whenever we're
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: doing draft talk year after, year we'd love talking sleepers.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Here and it may be a little premature to talk about,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: it but it's still.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Fun oh, wondering.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Are there a few prospects that you would consider to
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: be sleepers in this upcoming draft or guys that you're
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: really keeping your eyes on?
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Here?
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah admittedly very because we're again your as you're saying,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: here we're In. December i've been doveing into enough tape
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: to like really find one of those sleepers. Hip but
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: the one guy That i'm intrigued By Cole payton From
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: North Dakota, state, who LIKE i don't think that he's
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: going to be a STARTING nfl, quarterback but this year
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: In North Kota, state he was a wrecking. Ball, ye
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: he was a bit up and down this, year but
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: he is a physical specimen and he's gonna get a
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: lot of attention during the, postseason or not the, postseason
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: The All star.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Circuit but he IS i don't know if he's purely
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: going to play quarterback in THE.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: NFL i don't know if maybe he's somebody that teams
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: look at and, say let's try this guy out at tight,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: End let's turn him into Our Taysom hill or something
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: along those. Lines but he is really unique to, me
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: coming from the lower, levels for the impact that he
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: was able to.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Provide, yeah all, right, well great discussion, here. Folks, again
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• 22:08
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• 22:11
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• 22:13
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