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Talk Line with Dixon Mayor Glen Hughes · WIXN AM 1460 - Shaw Local Radio

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Speaker 1: You've joined the Waking crew here on FM ninety five
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Speaker 1: one and A fourteen sixty w I x N. It's
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Speaker 1: eight sixteen on your Tuesday, December sixteenth morning, and is
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Speaker 1: now time for talk line. I'm joined this morning by
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Speaker 1: the one and only Dixon's Mayor, Glen Hughes. Glenn, how
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Speaker 1: are you this morning, sir?
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Speaker 2: Doing well? Stay in trying to stay warm. But it's
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Speaker 2: winner or it's getting close to winter in northern Illinois,
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Speaker 2: so that's to be expected.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're we're Midwesterners. We know this. We don't love it,
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Speaker 3: but we know it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and well, you know Dixon is always as staying busy,
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Speaker 1: and you kind of wanted to lead off this morning
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Speaker 1: with an award for a special citizen.
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Speaker 2: Oh yes. Last night at the council meeting, Police Chief
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Speaker 2: Bivens presented a Citien Sins Exemplary Service Award to Lucky Hackbarth.
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Speaker 2: Lucky had been in a distance to some Luck he's
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Speaker 2: an electrician and they were having difficulty getting getting power
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Speaker 2: running in this individual's home. Individual was a veteran. Chief
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Speaker 2: Bivens was trying to find a solution for him, got
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Speaker 2: a hold of Lucky and and Lucky took care of
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Speaker 2: the problem for him in pretty short order and didn't
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Speaker 2: charge him labor just you know, the individual ended up
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Speaker 2: paying for the cost of materials, and Lucky took care
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Speaker 2: of the cost of labor, you know, and the work
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Speaker 2: and the responsiveness just because he's a good guy and
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Speaker 2: because that's the way he feels, you know, in terms
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Speaker 2: of taking care of other people. So so congratulations to
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Speaker 2: Lucky hack Barth for for his award the presentation last night.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely that is these are the kind of stories you
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Speaker 1: love to hear. We're lucky to have Lucky and people
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Speaker 1: like him, and people like him absolutely and one has
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Speaker 1: to imagine if that name just kind of like gave
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Speaker 1: him an almost cheerier disposition in life.
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I've known Lucky for quite a while
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Speaker 2: and never got around and I've known a few of
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Speaker 2: his friends too, but I never got around to asking
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Speaker 2: about how he ended up with the nickname.
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Speaker 1: So oh well, I absolutely loved that, and I hope
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Speaker 1: to hear more of these stories in the future, but
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Speaker 1: I'm certain we will. We seem to have a lot
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Speaker 1: of good people here.
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Speaker 3: In the community.
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Speaker 2: And I just wanted to comment that the award is
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Speaker 2: really part of the police department's philosophy of going beyond
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Speaker 2: the badge. That's the that's the attitude of the police
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Speaker 2: department right now, particularly under the supervision of Chief Bivens,
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Speaker 2: and it's it's a point that they want to make
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Speaker 2: that you know, his officers go beyond the badge in
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Speaker 2: terms of service to the community. And this is part
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Speaker 2: of recognizing others in the community who do the same
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Speaker 2: type of thing.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know, and you do see this from the
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Speaker 1: from the police department. This this attitude of of going
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Speaker 1: above and beyond to where it's not just the expected service,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's the events, whether you know, shop with
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Speaker 1: a cop, the officers having water gun fights with the kids.
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Speaker 2: The cab, the police department picking up the cab, costs
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Speaker 2: for people on over the Thanksgiving holiday.
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Speaker 3: That's that's a huge one, right.
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Speaker 1: You've you've got all these things where i mean, campaigns
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Speaker 1: are good, click at or ticket you know, checking out
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Speaker 1: for there, but that what a proactive kind of response
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Speaker 1: to say, hey, we don't we don't want anything to
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Speaker 1: happen to anyone tonight.
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Speaker 3: We're not we don't.
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Speaker 1: Want to arrest a happy and we're not just going
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Speaker 1: to wish and want for it. They actually stepped up
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Speaker 1: to help.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it was a real, real proactive thing that
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Speaker 2: the police department did, So kudos to them absolutely.
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Speaker 1: I love hearing about that. And you wanted to share
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Speaker 1: some news on a there was a public hearing for
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Speaker 1: the comprehensive Plan.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, last night. We didn't have many in attendance,
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Speaker 2: but we had a public hearing on the comprehensive Plan.
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Speaker 2: But the positive side is we had a lot of
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Speaker 2: input from the community as the as the comprehensive Plan
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Speaker 2: process was going on, and this started a I think
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Speaker 2: a year ago in August. It got approved, it gota
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Speaker 2: proved a year ago May, and then actually got into
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Speaker 2: full swing I think a year ago and in August.
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Speaker 2: There was there was online surveys, there was the maps
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Speaker 2: that you could designate issues and things that you thought
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Speaker 2: should be done within the city, where you wanted them done,
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Speaker 2: issues that you might have thought of, and where those
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Speaker 2: issues were at within the community. So there's been an
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Speaker 2: opportunity for quite a bit of public input as we
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Speaker 2: went along. And this is the kind of the this
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Speaker 2: was kind of the final stage of that. Although there
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Speaker 2: were very few in attendance and there weren't any upfront questions.
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Speaker 2: I wanted to at least go quickly through the PowerPoint
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Speaker 2: to just give the general public, anybody who might have
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Speaker 2: picked up the council meeting last night or who picks
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Speaker 2: it up in the next you know, days or weeks.
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Speaker 2: There was a quick summary of what the council or
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Speaker 2: what the comprehensive Plan consisted of its statutory basis where
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Speaker 2: we're looking to go. We didn't go through item by
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Speaker 2: item in the types of implementation, but I displayed the
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Speaker 2: grid and if anybody wants to get more direct information
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Speaker 2: about the comprehensive Plan, it is on the city's website.
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Speaker 2: You go to the first page of the city's website,
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Speaker 2: scroll down a little bit, about half two thirds of
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Speaker 2: the way down. There's an icon for the comprehensive Plan.
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Speaker 2: You click on that and then that'll take you into
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Speaker 2: the plan itself. It's one hundred and twenty pages like reading. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: you made want to do that in stages rather than
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Speaker 2: you know, I think on a personal computer printer. It
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Speaker 2: might be a little costly print out those one hundred
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Speaker 2: and twenty pages. But that comprehensive Plan is there online,
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Speaker 2: so you can go in and check things out at
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Speaker 2: your leisure. But this has been a long term process.
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Speaker 2: It's something when I came into office that I thought
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Speaker 2: was appropriate and was looking to get done our previous plans,
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Speaker 2: and I'll say plans, because there was about three different
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Speaker 2: things that got pulled together, including the Riverfront plant plan,
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Speaker 2: a older comprehensive plan that was focused mostly on the
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Speaker 2: downtown and out in the I eighty eight quarter area
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Speaker 2: what we're calling Gateway now, and there was something else.
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Speaker 2: There was another update that was done, but there was
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Speaker 2: three pieces, but that was twenty years plus. It was
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Speaker 2: over twenty years old. And on the positive side, we
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Speaker 2: had actually we were actually in the process of ashing
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Speaker 2: most everything that was in those plans. There's still things
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Speaker 2: to be done, but were really in the final stages,
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Speaker 2: so it wasn't something that could just be updated. The
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Speaker 2: whole premise was was different. This plan is geared toward
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Speaker 2: not specific places in the community, but looking at the
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Speaker 2: whole structure of the community, looking at each of you know,
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Speaker 2: the easiest way to break it down is by quadrants,
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Speaker 2: but looking at each the quadrants of the city and
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Speaker 2: you know, trying to make some decisions about what needs
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Speaker 2: to be done. What can we do, what should we do?
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Speaker 2: There will be a lot more involved. This should be
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Speaker 2: a working document. Not only were citizens involved, but our
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Speaker 2: Plan Commission was involved. There was a what I'll call
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Speaker 2: a steering committee. Think in the Comprehensive Plan PowerPoint it
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Speaker 2: calls it a joint committee, and it was. It consisted
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Speaker 2: of a couple of staff members, a couple of Council members,
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Speaker 2: and a couple of Plan Commission members. So we had
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Speaker 2: a chance as the process went to kind of look
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Speaker 2: at it, give feedback to House Levine and fair Graham
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Speaker 2: in terms of the content, and then they sent us
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Speaker 2: the draft and then that got reviewed by multiple parties.
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Speaker 2: The Plan Commission spent a couple of months going through
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Speaker 2: that and making you know, working it up to make
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Speaker 2: recommendations on that. So there's been a lot of input
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Speaker 2: in this. So this is this is not a this
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Speaker 2: is not a boiler plate thing. And there was a
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Speaker 2: lot of There was a lot of people who took
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Speaker 2: a lot of time to review and look at where
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Speaker 2: Dixon could or might be going in the future.
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Speaker 1: I mean no small undertaking twenty you know, twenty years.
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Speaker 1: I mean just the gateway development alone is enough to
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Speaker 1: really need to make you need to think this train's
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Speaker 1: got to stay on track.
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Speaker 2: Right, absolutely, absolutely.
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Speaker 1: And how far out does does the comprehensive plan look.
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Speaker 2: Well, theoretically it's it's based on a future time frame
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Speaker 2: of probably up to twenty years. That doesn't mean that
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Speaker 2: there aren't going to be some changes in it in
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Speaker 2: the in the in the near future or in the
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Speaker 2: midterm future. In fact, looking at it, you know, doing
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Speaker 2: a fairly concentrated review of it ten years down the
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Speaker 2: road is probably appropriate. That doesn't mean we'll need to
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Speaker 2: get a new comprehensive plan, but we need to, you know,
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Speaker 2: really look at what's changing and where we were. But
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Speaker 2: the other thing is we intend this to be a
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Speaker 2: working document. If we're going along and we're setting priorities
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Speaker 2: in timeframes, on different different steps of implementation, and it
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Speaker 2: appears that opportunity is providing a different direction or a
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Speaker 2: different aspect that fits with where we want to go
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Speaker 2: in general, then it might actually change some of the
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Speaker 2: aspects of the plan or some of the priorities of
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Speaker 2: the plan. We're going to take care, you know, there
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Speaker 2: may be something that's put a number two priority or
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Speaker 2: expected to be three to five years down the road
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Speaker 2: in terms of our in terms of our priority grid
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Speaker 2: or implementation grid, and then the appropriate opportunity comes sooner
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Speaker 2: than expected, we'll probably try and take advantage of it.
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Speaker 2: But it also may mean that it's, you know, we
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Speaker 2: have to take a look and then adapt in some
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Speaker 2: other ways.
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Speaker 3: So my hope is.
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Speaker 2: That it will be a working document not only for
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Speaker 2: the Council but for the staff, and in particular because
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Speaker 2: they have a lot to do with what happens in
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Speaker 2: terms of the growth and the planning and change is
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Speaker 2: going on, that the Plan Commission is going to be
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Speaker 2: active in looking at the plan and the priorities. It's
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Speaker 2: it's going to be it's going to be a partnership
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Speaker 2: even within even within the city system, you know.
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Speaker 1: And I feel like you probably have to have that
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Speaker 1: sort of fluidity if you're going to be smart about this.
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Speaker 1: I'm always thinking worst case scenario, know, maybe the cost
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Speaker 1: of construction triples. But you make an even better point
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Speaker 1: is that sometimes opportunity comes and knock in new grant,
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Speaker 1: maybe a new investor comes through, and it's just a
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Speaker 1: massive boon to the city and you can't ignore that.
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Speaker 1: So I absolutely can at least understand that even from
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Speaker 1: my simplified version of an understanding. So we're out of
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Speaker 1: time just for the moment, but we're going to return
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Speaker 1: with Dixon may Or Glenn Hughes in just a few moments.
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Speaker 1: You've joined the Waking crew here on FM ninety five
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Speaker 1: one and AM fourteen sixty WIXN, and we are continuing
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Speaker 1: our conversation with Dixon Mayor Glenn Hughes. Glenn, we were
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Speaker 1: just last talking about the public comprehensive plan, and you
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Speaker 1: also had some recent news on the tax lovey to share.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, just what everybody wants to hear. And I
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Speaker 2: didn't bring my statistical stuff. I don't want to get
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Speaker 2: bore everybody too much. We did approve the tax levy.
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Speaker 2: The dollar amount we approved is really going to be
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Speaker 2: subject to the EAV and the fact that the county
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Speaker 2: is tax cap so as is Dixon itself, and therefore
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Speaker 2: I believe the CPI is like two point nine percent,
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Speaker 2: So at most we're going to be looking at that
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Speaker 2: type of percentage relative to the growth in the EAV,
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Speaker 2: so if the EAV does not change, And when we
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Speaker 2: did our projections, it was I think the increase was
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Speaker 2: calculated at that point tentatively about zero point ninety six,
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Speaker 2: let's call it one percent. If that's all the EAV
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Speaker 2: the estimated assessed value changes, then we're probably going to
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Speaker 2: have a tough time even getting what we put into
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Speaker 2: the budget. If the IVY increases more than that, we
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Speaker 2: you know, we will be able to, as we have
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Speaker 2: in the last several years, cover the the budget increases.
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Speaker 2: So the key for the individuals is they got to
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Speaker 2: remember this community is tax capped. The prices aren't going
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Speaker 2: to go up, you know, substantially, at least from from
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Speaker 2: the city's perspective, I doubt from the counties either. The
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Speaker 2: other piece of that is that even last year we
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Speaker 2: had a fairly conservative estimate. We thought there was a
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Speaker 2: chance of about a thirty one thirty three dollars something
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Speaker 2: in that range dollar increase, and we're in a I
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Speaker 2: don't want to say worst case scenario, but in a
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Speaker 2: in a very conservative scenario. In fact, it went down
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Speaker 2: because of the av increase. I'm kind of expecting the
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Speaker 2: same thing to happen this year, that we will be
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Speaker 2: able to take advantage. But if we don't, there's a
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Speaker 2: there's a limit to what the city can get relative
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Speaker 2: to the tax capping. So a lot of people think
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Speaker 2: that we're just you know, the government will just keep
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Speaker 2: on spending, and you know, that's that's not that's not
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Speaker 2: the case. And we and we really truly try and
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Speaker 2: watch where those funds are going and what we're what
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Speaker 2: we're putting out there. We do try and be conservative
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Speaker 2: in our planning. A good chunk of the cost is something.
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Speaker 2: The cost increases is things that you can't avoid, you
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Speaker 2: can't get around. It's it's personnel, it's insurance. You know,
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Speaker 2: there's there's pretty much an expectation that you know, somebody
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Speaker 2: doing a good job, you know, they deserve an increase,
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Speaker 2: you know, for their time and effort, and the fact
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Speaker 2: that the inflation increases, because if you don't give them
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Speaker 2: a salary increase, they're going to get behind. If you know,
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Speaker 2: if inflation is increasing the cost of insurance. Everybody's aware
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Speaker 2: of that, you know, what they see on their homes,
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Speaker 2: what they see on their health insurance. The city is
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Speaker 2: no different. We can't get around that. So a good
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Speaker 2: piece of a good chunk of that ends up being
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Speaker 2: reflected there. And there's nothing the city can really do
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Speaker 2: about that those increases anymore than the individual homeowner can
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Speaker 2: about their insurance cost about their household costs, their food,
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Speaker 2: their gas, they're electric. Those are all things that they
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Speaker 2: have limited control of.
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Speaker 3: Pardon me.
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Speaker 2: So that's the long way of saying, yes, last night
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Speaker 2: we did pass we did pass our tax levy.
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I mean it's good to explain these things,
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Speaker 1: because I agree with you. I think a lot of
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Speaker 1: people they just have a general assumption like, oh, taxes
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Speaker 1: are going to be raised, and everything's just going to
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Speaker 1: be increased, and it's just out for more money, and
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Speaker 1: it's it's a lot of careful planning. And like you said,
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Speaker 1: there's so many things that the city as an entity
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Speaker 1: is not exact exempt from. You know, in insurance for
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Speaker 1: your employees, you have to provide that the insurance costs
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Speaker 1: go up for everybody. Corporations certainly aren't stiffing the rest
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Speaker 1: of us and saying eh, we're gonna leave organizations and
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Speaker 1: cities alone. Yeah, so now completely understandable. It's necessary, but
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Speaker 1: it's what, you know, careful planning like this is what
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Speaker 1: keeps a city thriving. Dixon's continuing to grow, the development
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Speaker 1: is continuing to grow, and these are just the kind
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Speaker 1: of careful practices you know, in my opinion from what
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Speaker 1: I've seen, especially once you start to really investigate the
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Speaker 1: process like it's necessary, it's needed, and it's helpful. So
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Speaker 1: I know some individuals can be you know, maybe a
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Speaker 1: little reluctant into into where money goes. But I say,
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Speaker 1: if it's going into your city and it's improving and
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Speaker 1: it's growing and it's more beautiful, like, what's wrong with that?
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Speaker 3: You know?
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Speaker 2: Well, certain people have different priorities.
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Speaker 3: We'll get on the board with the community here.
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Speaker 1: We're all having a much better time, uh speak, you know,
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Speaker 1: speaking of a better time, brighter news. You you you
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Speaker 1: recognize some some special athletes.
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Speaker 2: Oh yes, thank you, appreciate that. I wanted to make
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Speaker 2: sure I did that at the council, not this, not
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Speaker 2: this last night, but the previous council meeting. Our school system,
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Speaker 2: our coaches are producing some pretty good athletic teams, and
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Speaker 2: the individuals on these teams have to be you know,
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Speaker 2: have to be motivated in and of themselves. But I
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Speaker 2: recognized a lot of the fall sports high school and
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Speaker 2: actually spent some discussion on the middle school cross country.
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Speaker 2: But the primary ry emphasis what we recognized initially was
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Speaker 2: the state championship cross country team and the individuals and
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Speaker 2: the coach for for our high school state champion cross
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Speaker 2: country team. There were also individuals like Danny Lovett from
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Speaker 2: the girls cross country team that finished although the whole
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Speaker 2: team they had an excellent season, but in terms of
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Speaker 2: qualification it was just Danny who qualified to make state
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Speaker 2: and she finished nineteenth out of like two hundred and
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Speaker 2: fifty two hundred and thirty, two hundred and fifty some kids.
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Speaker 2: I don't I don't have those numbers with me right now.
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Speaker 1: I don't think I could finish my supper nineteen people,
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Speaker 1: let alone the track star.
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Speaker 2: And then the two middle school cross country teams. The
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Speaker 2: boys and the girls both finished first and sectionals, and
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Speaker 2: then the the girls finished fourth. I believe it was
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Speaker 2: the girls finished fourth in the state IEMS meet and
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Speaker 2: the boys finished ninth. Although we had one individual among
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Speaker 2: the boys, Miles, who finished third at state so and
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Speaker 2: our best female finisher I think she was twenty third.
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Speaker 2: So although the girls finished higher, they must have been
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Speaker 2: fairly well tightly clustered in that range as a team.
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Speaker 2: But the boys did a really nice job. Of course,
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Speaker 2: everybody you know, a lot of people were following our
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Speaker 2: football team making it in the second round of the playoffs.
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Speaker 2: You know, our golf team had a good year, just
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Speaker 2: our fall sports in general, middle school high school did
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Speaker 2: a very good job. So I just wanted to recognize
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Speaker 2: those athletes and those coaches who who participated in that activity.
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Speaker 2: I believe that adds a lot to the school experience.
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Speaker 2: It also adds a lot to the development of those
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Speaker 2: individuals on the long term.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely. I mean, I think you make a really great
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Speaker 1: point there. It's it's not just you know, kids who
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Speaker 1: are enjoying a sport and showing up. I mean they're
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Speaker 1: going to class off and right after school ends, going
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Speaker 1: to practice, doing a couple hours of an intense, you know,
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Speaker 1: intense practice, and then coming back home to join their families,
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Speaker 1: have some supper, do some homework, study for a test,
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Speaker 1: and get a good night's sleep. I mean, it's that's
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Speaker 1: not an easy pace.
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Speaker 3: For anyone, I know.
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Speaker 1: We I mean, I like to joke, I certainly wish
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Speaker 1: I had half my teen's energy, But but that's a
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Speaker 1: you know, it could be a gruelling pace and one
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Speaker 1: that that should be recognized.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I just wanted to you know, that was
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Speaker 2: another positive we had, you know, positive. We're lucky this meeting.
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Speaker 2: We had positive with the sports recognition at the last meeting,
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Speaker 2: So those are those are good things to be talking
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Speaker 2: about as well in terms of the community and what
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Speaker 2: the community offers to its to its citizens, including its
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Speaker 2: student athletes.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely anything else you want to share this morning, Glen.
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Speaker 2: Trying to think how much time we got left.
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Speaker 3: We still got about three minutes or so.
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Speaker 2: About three minutes, okay, got to keep it short. There
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Speaker 2: were a couple of petitions that came through from the
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Speaker 2: county relative to rezoning. But the county is going to
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Speaker 2: make the final decision because they're within a mile and
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Speaker 2: a half. The city has not opportunity to have some
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Speaker 2: say in that process. If we object to a petition
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Speaker 2: what they call a map amendment, then instead of being
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Speaker 2: to be approved at the counting level, instead of being
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Speaker 2: a simple majority, it has to be a super majority.
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Speaker 2: I think two thirds or three quarters. I don't remember
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Speaker 2: the specifics on that, but in these cases, there was
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Speaker 2: one that was set up as a residential subdivision and
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Speaker 2: the petition is to move it back to a AG
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Speaker 2: which the property is actively being used as. But there
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Speaker 2: was a potential for a subdivision there the family has
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Speaker 2: asked to take that back to egg We have no
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Speaker 2: problem with that. And then the other item would be
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Speaker 2: the former Brandywine motel. There is a petition to change
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Speaker 2: that from commercial to multi family residential and quite honestly,
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Speaker 2: I don't think the council doesn't have a problem with
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Speaker 2: that move either. It would. We all know that there's
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Speaker 2: a shortage of housing in this area. It's not just Dixon,
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Speaker 2: but you know a lot of a lot of the
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Speaker 2: small communities in particular, but everywhere in general have housing issues.
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Speaker 2: So moving that hasn't been an active or a fully
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Speaker 2: operational motel, I think half or less of the rooms
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Speaker 2: have been made available in the last few years, so.
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Speaker 3: It would be.
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Speaker 2: And with the two new motels coming in, it would
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Speaker 2: be nice to see something being done with that motel
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Speaker 2: property and moving that to a multi family residential seems
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Speaker 2: like an appropriate use.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that it just seems like it makes sense.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So.
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Speaker 2: In this case, so in this we present those things,
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Speaker 2: it's kind of backwards we present those as those petitions
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Speaker 2: as resolutions to object because of the fact that the
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Speaker 2: if we object that it creates the higher vote standard.
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Speaker 2: But in this case we turned down. We turned down
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Speaker 2: both of those objections. We voted not to object, which
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Speaker 2: is a nave vote. So it all, it's all kind
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Speaker 2: of backwards, but it seems like but it's just how
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Speaker 2: the process. It's just how the process goes.
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Speaker 1: Sure, no, we've got a custom and pomp and circumstances.
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Speaker 1: We're about out of time this morning, but thank you
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Speaker 1: so much for coming into the booth today and sharing
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Speaker 1: all this information and all the work that you guys
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Speaker 1: are doing to make this city just beautiful and great
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Speaker 1: in what it is today.
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Speaker 2: Oh, one final shout out to the Street Department and
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Speaker 2: the other departments that help the Street Department when we've
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Speaker 2: got snowfalls. Absolutely, they're doing a heck of a good.
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Speaker 3: Job, really are.
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Speaker 1: I don't like I don't like the space of time
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Speaker 1: it takes me to run out to warm up my truck,
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Speaker 1: let alone. You know these individuals out there clearing things.
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Speaker 2: And Yep, they're doing a good job.
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Speaker 1: No kudos to them. Well, Glenn, thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: Thank you,