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- 0:02Speaker 1: This is the Appetizer Hour with Brett Cain on demand.
- 0:06Speaker 1: Check out Brett weekday mornings at 6 on Altitude Sports
- 0:10Speaker 1: Radio 92.5 and on the Altitude Sports Radio app.
- 0:19Speaker 2: Lewis loads up down the field. DeAndre Moore. Smothers is
- 0:29Speaker 2: the back in the I formation.
- 0:52Speaker 3: He's got it.
- 0:53Speaker 1: Dives.
- 0:54Speaker 2: Touchdown, Texas!
- 0:59Speaker 4: Dead even with the PAT to come.
- 1:02Speaker 1: And he knocks it through.
- 1:04Speaker 3: And Texas somehow is on top with 25 seconds to go.
- 1:09Speaker 3: Dart in the shotgun. Play clock down to three. Dart
- 1:11Speaker 3: gets the snap. He's back to pass. Fires left side.
- 1:14Speaker 3: Singletary's got it. Along the sideline of the five. Into
- 1:18Speaker 3: the end zone.
- 1:20Speaker 5: Touchdown, Giants.
- 1:20Speaker 2: Devin Singletary with a catch and run of nine. And
- 1:23Speaker 2: the Giant lead is 27-14. Tonight.
- 1:28Speaker 6: Tonight. They're going after him.
- 1:30Speaker 2: Going for the end zone. Over the shoulder.
- 1:35Speaker 1: Oh, Mims.
- 1:36Speaker 2: Hauls it in.
- 1:37Speaker 3: 26 yards to Marvin Mims, who was injured as he
- 1:41Speaker 3: was falling to the ground after making the over-the-shoulder catch.
- 1:46Speaker 1: Lutz.
- 1:47Speaker 6: Here it is.
- 1:48Speaker 2: On the way.
- 1:49Speaker 6: And the Denver Broncos have won it in overtime. Tonight.
- 1:56Speaker 1: Tonight.
- 1:57Speaker 2: Altitude Sports Radio loves football.
- 2:03Speaker 6: Nelly missed his buttons over the weekend, didn't he? Oh,
- 2:07Speaker 6: what a weekend it was. NFL, college football, and finally
- 2:13Speaker 6: today we get the opener to the Broncos season in
- 2:17Speaker 6: an effort to repeat The success that they had last
- 2:22Speaker 6: year and trying to get back to fighting for another
- 2:24Speaker 6: Super Bowl appearance. Now, we'll get to the previewing of
- 2:27Speaker 6: the game in a bit. We've kind of been doing
- 2:30Speaker 6: that for months anyway, so let's talk about some things
- 2:33Speaker 6: that actually happened and things that I think that matter.
- 2:37Speaker 2: And here's the main one.
- 2:42Speaker 6: Whenever you're at this point in the calendar, you're projecting
- 2:45Speaker 6: who's going to be good, who's going to be bad,
- 2:47Speaker 6: where is this team going to.
- 2:48Speaker 2: Fall, X, Y, Z.
- 2:51Speaker 6: And there's always a narrative that comes out of an offseason.
- 2:56Speaker 6: As you head into a brand new year, after you've
- 2:58Speaker 6: seen training camp, you've seen the preseason, you've seen everything
- 3:01Speaker 6: come together, new rosters, what have you. And that narrative
- 3:09Speaker 6: becomes an overarching story of, you know, Crackman does a
- 3:14Speaker 6: really good job of spotting these.
- 3:16Speaker 2: He has the.
- 3:18Speaker 6: I can't believe how everybody's talking about how nobody's talking
- 3:21Speaker 6: about the Denver Broncos. Like that whole thing comes from
- 3:26Speaker 6: every TV show that you watch last year anyway. How
- 3:29Speaker 6: come nobody's talking about the Broncos, which means everybody's talking
- 3:32Speaker 6: about it? There's one thing that I think defined this
- 3:37Speaker 6: offseason as far as offseason story that we were looking,
- 3:40Speaker 6: a lot of people were looking at to become truth
- 3:44Speaker 6: once the season starts.
- 3:46Speaker 2: And it was....
- 3:51Speaker 6: This is the Chargers year. And the Chargers go out
- 3:54Speaker 6: yesterday at home. Brand new offense with Mike McDaniel in charge.
- 4:03Speaker 6: And got stomped by Arizona. Herbert finished that game with
- 4:11Speaker 6: 209 yards. One touchdown, one pick was sacked three times.
- 4:16Speaker 6: Omari and Hampton, a darling of everybody in the offseason,
- 4:19Speaker 6: for this guy's going to become a top five back
- 4:21Speaker 6: in the league or something like that. Omari and Hampton
- 4:23Speaker 6: finished with 43 yards at 3.6 yards per carry. And
- 4:29Speaker 6: the team just looked completely out of sorts. Now, it's
- 4:33Speaker 6: week one, okay? But when you have a team like
- 4:39Speaker 6: the Chargers.
- 4:42Speaker 6: That you kind of figure is going to be in
- 4:44Speaker 6: the mix for both the division and conference play later
- 4:46Speaker 6: in the year.
- 4:47Speaker 2: It's a big one.
- 4:52Speaker 6: That's a big game early in this season. Long NFL season.
- 4:58Speaker 6: Teams can bounce back. But there were like some results
- 5:02Speaker 6: of this first week that made you go, hmm.
- 5:07Speaker 2: Niners-Rams on Thursday. That was a weird one.
- 5:11Speaker 6: And we can blame it on Australia and the travel
- 5:13Speaker 6: and all that different stuff. Bottom line is, a season
- 5:17Speaker 6: where I think the two teams that got the most
- 5:20Speaker 6: attention in their respective conference heading into this year was
- 5:25Speaker 6: the LA Rams and the Los Angeles Chargers. The Rams,
- 5:30Speaker 6: for a pretty obvious reason, they were knocking on the
- 5:32Speaker 6: door last year for a Super Bowl. They go out,
- 5:34Speaker 6: they make the trade for Miles Garrett and Trent McDuffie,
- 5:37Speaker 6: and they bring Aaron Donald back, and there's so much
- 5:39Speaker 6: of this huge and grand news to lose by 20
- 5:43Speaker 6: in the first game and then immediately put Miles.
- 5:46Speaker 2: Garrett on IR.
- 5:48Speaker 1: Take that L on the way out.
- 5:51Speaker 6: Then on the AFC side of things, it felt like
- 5:55Speaker 6: nobody trusted who was playing in the AFC championship game
- 5:59Speaker 6: last year, and that's based off of who people thought,
- 6:03Speaker 6: for the most part, Again, we're talking in generalities here.
- 6:10Speaker 6: For the most part, people looked at the AFC championship
- 6:14Speaker 6: game and I think thought it was a fluke last year.
- 6:17Speaker 2: Here's why.
- 6:18Speaker 6: I don't see many people picking the Patriots and picking
- 6:21Speaker 6: the Broncos to return. I see a lot of people picking, hey,
- 6:27Speaker 6: maybe the Chiefs are on their way back this year. Hey,
- 6:29Speaker 6: maybe it's the Ravens year. I think Josh Allen finally
- 6:32Speaker 6: gets it done. And then the biggest one was, Harbaugh, Herbert,
- 6:38Speaker 6: Mike McDaniel, they're going to do it this year.
- 6:41Speaker 2: It's finally time.
- 6:42Speaker 6: And for them to lay an egg in the first
- 6:43Speaker 6: week at home is just a pretty wild result. And
- 6:50Speaker 6: you've had a few of those within those games yesterday.
- 6:57Speaker 6: Also something I want to spend more time on. I
- 7:00Speaker 6: don't know if you guys saw what took place in
- 7:03Speaker 6: the New Orleans and Detroit game yesterday. What is a
- 7:06Speaker 6: very obvious and clear sack fumble that was returned for
- 7:10Speaker 6: a touchdown was called back.
- 7:13Speaker 2: And Nelly, do me a favor.
- 7:14Speaker 6: See if you can dig up, as we're talking about this,
- 7:17Speaker 6: Mike Pereira's explanation for why. If you guys missed this,
- 7:23Speaker 6: Detroit had the ball. Saints, Chase Young catches the edge.
- 7:30Speaker 6: And it's one of those blindside hits on the quarterback.
- 7:33Speaker 6: He's bringing the ball back to throw. He hits Goff.
- 7:36Speaker 6: Ball goes out of 15 yards backwards and to the right.
- 7:43Speaker 6: Saints pick it up, scoop and score, and they go
- 7:46Speaker 6: to review. And I think everybody's kind of looking at it,
- 7:49Speaker 6: thinking to themselves, like, what are we reviewing here? And
- 7:52Speaker 6: they come back and they say, Something along the lines
- 7:57Speaker 6: of quarterback was in the throwing motion, it's an incomplete pass.
- 8:01Speaker 6: Everyone's confused. But here was Mike Pereira's explanation of why.
- 8:06Speaker 4: Yeah, he had started his throwing motion. Now, throwing motion
- 8:10Speaker 4: is bringing the ball up. Forget about the hand at
- 8:13Speaker 4: this point going forward. Throwing motion starts hand going up,
- 8:17Speaker 4: then is hit. Ball comes loose. His intent was.
- 8:21Speaker 1: To throw it forward.
- 8:22Speaker 4: And since that motion had already started, that's going to
- 8:25Speaker 4: be a forward pass no matter where it lands.
- 8:30Speaker 2: What?
- 8:33Speaker 6: This is one of those, the NFL is great at
- 8:35Speaker 6: doing the, you might have thought you knew what you
- 8:39Speaker 6: were watching for, you know, 60 years of football. But
- 8:44Speaker 6: this feels like secret clock that only the Big Ten
- 8:48Speaker 6: has stuff. What do you mean the intention was to
- 8:52Speaker 6: throw it forward? Well, the intention was not to throw
- 8:59Speaker 6: an interception. The intention was not to fumble. The intention
- 9:03Speaker 6: was not to have a negative yardage play. The hell
- 9:05Speaker 6: does that even mean? And here's the problem. And Nelly,
- 9:13Speaker 6: mark my words. How is every quarterback in the league,
- 9:17Speaker 6: when they get hit and they fumble... Not going to
- 9:21Speaker 6: go to, what do you mean? I was bringing my
- 9:27Speaker 6: arm back to throw and my intention was to throw
- 9:31Speaker 6: it forward. Imagine this in the AFC championship game. I
- 9:38Speaker 6: don't know what you guys are talking about. When I
- 9:41Speaker 6: threw it from my chest, my intention was for the
- 9:44Speaker 6: ball to go forward. I don't think you can trust
- 9:48Speaker 6: anything anymore. What the NFL should do is get out
- 9:51Speaker 6: ahead of this right now before this becomes a real problem,
- 9:54Speaker 6: which is every time that somebody goes out and makes
- 9:58Speaker 6: a hit on the quarterback, the a fumble, you aren't
- 10:02Speaker 6: going to shout about what Mike Pereira said in week one.
- 10:11Speaker 6: They should release some statement right now being like, you
- 10:14Speaker 6: know what, guys? We got it wrong. That's all they
- 10:17Speaker 6: need to say. It's not going to make the Saints
- 10:20Speaker 6: feel any better about that. But at least, at least,
- 10:27Speaker 6: you can get out in front and say, well, you
- 10:29Speaker 6: know what?
- 10:30Speaker 2: We botched it. Our bad.
- 10:34Speaker 5: What you need to start doing is, everybody who's listening
- 10:37Speaker 5: and you too, Kane, is you need to start using this.
- 10:39Speaker 2: Logic in your everyday life.
- 10:41Speaker 5: Like, I don't even want to put this evil on you,
- 10:43Speaker 5: but suppose you forget Your wife's birthday?
- 10:46Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 10:47Speaker 5: You go, well, you see, my intention was to remember
- 10:49Speaker 5: your birthday and take you to a nice dinner. So
- 10:51Speaker 5: no matter what happens, I was in the right because
- 10:54Speaker 5: I intended to take you.
- 10:56Speaker 2: It's the intent that matters. I actually say this all
- 11:01Speaker 2: the time.
- 11:01Speaker 6: I don't like how we punish people based off of
- 11:04Speaker 6: results instead of intention.
- 11:06Speaker 2: I think the intention is the thing that should matter most.
- 11:09Speaker 1: But....
- 11:11Speaker 6: In this, I'm just telling you, this is going to
- 11:14Speaker 6: become a gigantic problem unless the NFL says we screwed up.
- 11:19Speaker 6: If they do that, then there's no issue. The Saints
- 11:23Speaker 6: will be mad. Saints fans will be mad. People will
- 11:26Speaker 6: make fun of the NFL for getting that wrong, but
- 11:29Speaker 6: at least they won't have a problem moving forward.
- 11:31Speaker 2: The issue with them is.
- 11:36Speaker 6: If you move forward with this, All right, Nelly, what
- 11:39Speaker 6: happens tonight? Nick Benito comes off the corner on a
- 11:42Speaker 6: undrafted rookie free agent left tackle in, forgetting his name now,
- 11:48Speaker 6: doesn't matter.
- 11:50Speaker 2: He comes off the edge. He hits Mahomes blindside.
- 11:53Speaker 6: It's when Mahomes has his arm back here, hand not
- 11:56Speaker 6: moving forward, but arms back.
- 11:58Speaker 2: His intention is to throw the football.
- 12:02Speaker 6: Benito hits him before the hand moves forward, ball squirts out,
- 12:05Speaker 6: Broncos scoop and score.
- 12:08Speaker 2: What's the call?
- 12:13Speaker 6: The fact that nobody can give me a straight answer
- 12:15Speaker 6: now is a big problem. And I find this every
- 12:20Speaker 6: bit as egregious as what happened in the Michigan-Western Michigan game,
- 12:26Speaker 6: which everybody watched it, clocks hit zero, game was over,
- 12:29Speaker 6: and they said, uh-uh-uh, there's actually a super secret thing
- 12:33Speaker 6: you don't know about And you're just like, this reeks
- 12:41Speaker 6: of some sort of foul play. Now, calls early in
- 12:48Speaker 6: the game. It wasn't like there was three seconds left
- 12:53Speaker 6: on the clock or anything like that.
- 12:55Speaker 2: But a touchdown, it's a gigantic play. It's huge.
- 13:01Speaker 6: And look, I'm saying this as... as I think you
- 13:05Speaker 6: guys well know, somebody who was rooting for Detroit. And
- 13:08Speaker 6: very clearly, that call was wrong. In fact, Dan Campbell
- 13:13Speaker 6: said it after the game. He was like, yeah, I
- 13:15Speaker 6: didn't know that rule existed. We were kind of all
- 13:18Speaker 6: on the sideline just waiting to take the field again
- 13:20Speaker 6: after the kickoff. But I see that as being a
- 13:24Speaker 6: huge problem unless the NFL gets ahead of this like now, now.
- 13:29Speaker 5: Isn't the NFL so good at using language that kind
- 13:32Speaker 5: of confuses you and muddies the waters? Well, you see,
- 13:36Speaker 5: it actually was a fumble because the receiver made a
- 13:40Speaker 5: football move and turned up field, so he did possess
- 13:42Speaker 5: the ball.
- 13:43Speaker 2: What is a football move? Yeah, the whole football move.
- 13:46Speaker 6: I think I understand the football move thing, but it is,
- 13:52Speaker 6: they use that sort of, it's coded language, and I
- 13:56Speaker 6: mean coded in a way of, there's some variability.
- 14:02Speaker 2: In the words you can use there.
- 14:05Speaker 6: But goodness. So a lot more from the NFL weekend
- 14:07Speaker 6: that we have to get to. Main thing for me, though,
- 14:09Speaker 6: is the Chargers lose to the Cardinals in the first
- 14:12Speaker 6: game of the year after being touted as the AFC darling.
- 14:18Speaker 6: And a call that was made in the Detroit-New Orleans
- 14:22Speaker 6: game has now, I think, muddied the waters and clouded
- 14:27Speaker 6: anything that resembles what you think you know about sack
- 14:31Speaker 6: fumbles anymore. So two pretty major things that went down
- 14:38Speaker 6: in week one with a whole bunch of other stuff
- 14:39Speaker 6: that we get to in a bit. Broncos and Chiefs tonight,
- 14:43Speaker 6: Monday Night Football. And we'll go back to it, but
- 14:51Speaker 6: it's what you feel the Chiefs are and what they're
- 14:57Speaker 6: going to be this season. Was last year a fluke
- 15:01Speaker 6: or was last year an indicator of what the chiefs
- 15:05Speaker 6: may be moving forward. We'll get to all that in
- 15:07Speaker 6: a few minutes, game one for the Broncos tonight. And
- 15:10Speaker 6: it's on Monday night football. I have felt this for
- 15:17Speaker 6: a couple of years and it's hard. Cause I feel
- 15:23Speaker 6: like I have a bias in this too, because it's,
- 15:25Speaker 6: it's something I thought I was saying, but I'll just
- 15:30Speaker 6: tell you straight up. And I want to get the
- 15:31Speaker 6: college football in a bit because, uh, Couple things in
- 15:34Speaker 6: college football over the weekend. Pretty incredible, including that Texas comeback.
- 15:37Speaker 6: So we'll get.
- 15:38Speaker 2: There in a second. But as far as the game tonight,
- 15:43Speaker 2: I've had this feeling of.
- 15:47Speaker 6: The Chiefs and perception versus what I think is reality
- 15:54Speaker 6: with them. And I think when you're as good as
- 15:56Speaker 6: what the Chiefs have been over the course of a decade,
- 15:59Speaker 6: you have earned the benefit of the doubt for people to.
- 16:04Speaker 6: C, you fail before they expect you to. And fail
- 16:11Speaker 6: is a relative term. Failure for the Raiders is different
- 16:14Speaker 6: than failure for, you know, the Broncos this year. But
- 16:20Speaker 6: the way I'd put this is, two years ago, two,
- 16:30Speaker 6: I'm watching the Chiefs, and Every time I.
- 16:35Speaker 2: Would watch them play, I'm like.
- 16:37Speaker 6: It doesn't feel like they're the same team. They're a
- 16:45Speaker 6: team of, you play good defense, but gosh, you have
- 16:48Speaker 6: this offense that is just high gear, put the fear
- 16:53Speaker 6: of God into defense, throwing up 35 points a night.
- 16:57Speaker 6: They can have eight different dudes score. whole bunch of playmakers.
- 17:03Speaker 6: And I'm watching and I'm going, that doesn't look like that.
- 17:06Speaker 6: Doesn't look right. And then the year went on and
- 17:11Speaker 6: the Chiefs were like 4-0. And I'm like, yeah, they
- 17:15Speaker 6: just squeaking out these wins though, especially against bad teams.
- 17:20Speaker 6: Can't really run the football. That can't last. And then
- 17:25Speaker 6: it kept going.
- 17:27Speaker 2: And then they were 8-0. And 9-0. And 12-1.
- 17:32Speaker 6: And 14-1.
- 17:33Speaker 2: And I'm just.
- 17:36Speaker 6: All of it was... I couldn't really say anything out
- 17:38Speaker 6: loud because I'm like, they're winning. They're winning games because
- 17:41Speaker 6: they're the Chiefs. And I guess that's just what the
- 17:42Speaker 6: Chiefs do. But I saw a shift in how they
- 17:46Speaker 6: were winning. The years of Patrick Mahomes throwing 50 touchdowns
- 17:51Speaker 6: and 5,000 yards.
- 17:53Speaker 2: seemed, at least at that time, to be done.
- 17:56Speaker 6: But they had a good enough defense and they were
- 17:57Speaker 6: good enough in the clutch that it all kind of
- 17:59Speaker 6: kept together. And I, as Moj in podcasts of this
- 18:06Speaker 6: show is my witness, I said the sustainability of winning
- 18:10Speaker 6: that many one-score games is just incredibly hard to do, yes,
- 18:15Speaker 6: in one season, which they overcame, but especially in back-to-back years.
- 18:20Speaker 2: In the following year, all of that stuff flipped. And
- 18:24Speaker 2: the problem.
- 18:27Speaker 6: That I have when I say stuff like this out
- 18:29Speaker 6: loud is I'm met with sort of the same sort
- 18:31Speaker 6: of refrain.
- 18:33Speaker 2: Of, well, Mahomes is healthy now and he'll figure it out.
- 18:39Speaker 6: And I have to remind people that Mahomes played in
- 18:40Speaker 6: 14 games last year and the Chiefs were not a
- 18:42Speaker 6: playoff team. And I can't shake this feeling that I
- 18:46Speaker 6: just think the Chiefs are now.
- 18:50Speaker 2: A team that's just.
- 18:53Speaker 6: A good team, middle of the road like a bunch
- 18:55Speaker 6: of other ones. And I don't have this gigantic sort
- 19:01Speaker 6: of fear is probably the wrong word, but this sense
- 19:09Speaker 6: of impending doom like I used to. And I just
- 19:14Speaker 6: think the Chiefs have lost in a lot of areas
- 19:16Speaker 6: and they haven't been able to bring it back. Even
- 19:21Speaker 6: when they lost Tyreek Hill, they continued to win, but
- 19:23Speaker 6: they continued to win because Tyreek Hill was secondary to
- 19:26Speaker 6: the main thrust of the offense, which was Travis Kelsey.
- 19:30Speaker 6: And as Travis Kelsey has aged, it feels like the
- 19:33Speaker 6: Chiefs offense has aged. And I say all that to
- 19:38Speaker 6: tell you, tonight, I expect the Broncos to win. I
- 19:42Speaker 6: think the Broncos are a better football team. You look
- 19:47Speaker 6: almost everywhere on the field, I think the Broncos are better.
- 19:51Speaker 6: They have the better playmakers on offense. Cortland Sutton and
- 19:56Speaker 6: Jalen Waddle is miles better than their one-two punch in
- 19:59Speaker 6: Kansas City at wide receiver. I think the Broncos running
- 20:04Speaker 6: game is better. I don't care about Kenneth Walker. I
- 20:07Speaker 6: still think that J.K. Dobbins, when he's healthy, is as
- 20:10Speaker 6: good as most other running backs in the league. He
- 20:12Speaker 6: might not be top, top, top tier, like Bijon, Jameer Gibbs, Saquon,
- 20:20Speaker 6: Derrick Henry level, but I think as good as pretty
- 20:24Speaker 6: much everybody else, the tier below that.
- 20:28Speaker 2: When healthy.
- 20:30Speaker 6: Quarterback, you can throw it to Mahomes, sure, but I
- 20:32Speaker 6: think you got the Much better offensive line. Chiefs have
- 20:35Speaker 6: lost a lot in that area over the last couple
- 20:37Speaker 6: of years. And I think on defense, you're better. They're
- 20:41Speaker 6: the better football team. And so now the discussion becomes,
- 20:45Speaker 6: is Patrick Mahomes and his stature above Bo Nix enough
- 20:53Speaker 6: to overcome everything else?
- 20:54Speaker 2: And I think the answer is no. I don't think
- 20:57Speaker 2: it is.
- 20:57Speaker 6: And I think it was part of the problem last
- 20:59Speaker 6: year with the Chiefs is that is Mahomes still a
- 21:02Speaker 6: great quarterback?
- 21:02Speaker 2: Of course he is.
- 21:05Speaker 6: But I think they've lost more than people are willing
- 21:07Speaker 6: to admit. I mean, you go back to last year
- 21:13Speaker 6: and statistically what they did last season.
- 21:17Speaker 2: They had.
- 21:19Speaker 6: Kareem Hunt who ran for 611 yards and 3.6 yards
- 21:22Speaker 6: per carry.
- 21:23Speaker 2: They didn't have a rushing game.
- 21:24Speaker 6: They go out and get Kenneth Walker to fix that,
- 21:26Speaker 6: but they didn't fix the problems on their offensive line.
- 21:31Speaker 2: As far as their receivers....
- 21:34Speaker 6: Go look at who they have this year. Rasheed Rice,
- 21:37Speaker 6: is he okay? Yeah, I guess he's okay. Xavier Worthy,
- 21:40Speaker 6: who they drafted in the first round, he's a guy
- 21:44Speaker 6: who's got speed.
- 21:47Speaker 2: And I don't think a lot else.
- 21:51Speaker 6: I mean, their number two wide receiver had 42 catches
- 21:54Speaker 6: last year. Their number three wide receiver had 19 catches
- 21:59Speaker 6: last year. They didn't do anything to improve. They trade
- 22:04Speaker 6: away their best corner, ship him off to Los Angeles,
- 22:07Speaker 6: and they bring back LeJarius Sneed, who, yes, when healthy
- 22:11Speaker 6: is a pretty damn good corner. He's played 12 games
- 22:14Speaker 6: the last two years. I just think a lot of
- 22:18Speaker 6: the problems that they have, they didn't address well enough,
- 22:23Speaker 6: and you compare that to a team from last year
- 22:25Speaker 6: in the Broncos, who returned virtually everybody from a roster
- 22:29Speaker 6: that got to an AFC championship game and was... this
- 22:33Speaker 6: close to making it to the Super Bowl. I just
- 22:40Speaker 6: don't think the Chiefs were talking about the same kind
- 22:45Speaker 6: of animal anymore. Can they get there? Yeah, I think
- 22:50Speaker 6: they can because they still have talented players on that
- 22:54Speaker 6: team and they have Patrick Mahomes and that's always somewhat
- 22:57Speaker 6: of an equalizer. But I think it's a long road
- 23:02Speaker 6: ahead So it all starts tonight. First game of the
- 23:08Speaker 6: Broncos season, Monday Night Football. Do want to get some
- 23:12Speaker 6: college football here. And here's a couple of realizations that
- 23:17Speaker 6: I had in watching the games on Saturday. First of all,
- 23:25Speaker 6: that whole thing about you really don't know what teams
- 23:29Speaker 6: are going to be in college football anymore. That is
- 23:35Speaker 6: entirely true. Because who could have guessed Oklahoma State, who
- 23:42Speaker 6: won a single football game last year, won.
- 23:49Speaker 2: You go back to last year, they.
- 23:51Speaker 6: Won their opening game against UT Martin 27-7. From there
- 23:57Speaker 6: on out, they lost every football game that was on
- 24:00Speaker 6: their schedule.
- 24:01Speaker 2: 11 straight.
- 24:02Speaker 6: They take that into this year. They lose 24-10 in
- 24:06Speaker 6: the opener to Tulsa. That's 12 straight losses. They played
- 24:10Speaker 6: Oregon last year. The final score of that game was 69-3.
- 24:16Speaker 6: And this year, Oregon, who struggled the first week against
- 24:20Speaker 6: Boise State, now goes on the road and loses to
- 24:24Speaker 6: Oklahoma State 39-31.
- 24:25Speaker 2: We have no idea. what football teams are going to
- 24:31Speaker 2: be year over year.
- 24:32Speaker 6: Because if I can't trust Oregon who returned Dante Moore,
- 24:35Speaker 6: who seemed like he was going to be perhaps the
- 24:38Speaker 6: number two overall draft pick if he left last year,
- 24:42Speaker 6: if nothing, he was a first-round quarterback. If that team
- 24:46Speaker 6: returning that guy can't beat Oklahoma State, then we don't
- 24:50Speaker 6: know anything about college football.
- 24:51Speaker 3: Nothing.
- 24:53Speaker 6: You can have a vague idea. You can have an inkling.
- 24:57Speaker 6: You have no true sense of what teams are week in,
- 25:01Speaker 6: week out.
- 25:02Speaker 2: And the other part.
- 25:04Speaker 6: Of college football as a whole over the weekend, when
- 25:12Speaker 6: you got the result.
- 25:15Speaker 2: Of Texas.
- 25:19Speaker 6: Coming back after being down huge, To Ohio State.
- 25:25Speaker 3: 23-3.
- 25:26Speaker 2: There was.
- 25:27Speaker 6: I mean it was 23-3 heading into the fourth quarter.
- 25:34Speaker 6: And three straight touchdowns later. Including one with 25 seconds
- 25:37Speaker 6: left on the clock. Gives Texas the 24-23 win. Here's
- 25:45Speaker 6: what that game told me. Is that a brutal loss
- 25:48Speaker 6: for Ohio State?
- 25:49Speaker 3: Yes.
- 25:51Speaker 2: But this is. a little bit like the NFL now.
- 25:58Speaker 6: In the same way the Chargers lost week one and
- 26:01Speaker 6: the Cowboys lost week one and the Rams lost week one.
- 26:05Speaker 2: All these different teams from yesterday didn't matter. Didn't matter.
- 26:13Speaker 6: There's a long season. College football is the same way.
- 26:16Speaker 6: You have one job. Get yourself in the dance. As
- 26:19Speaker 6: long as you do that, you're in good shape. And
- 26:22Speaker 6: Ohio State, as brutal as that loss is, I think
- 26:27Speaker 6: this is, if you can trust your team to make
- 26:31Speaker 6: up for it later in the year, and Ohio State's
- 26:33Speaker 6: certainly one that is that, I think these games are
- 26:36Speaker 6: such a benefit to not just college football as a whole,
- 26:39Speaker 6: I think your football team.
- 26:42Speaker 2: So you got a loss on the board. Big deal.
- 26:44Speaker 6: You don't think Ohio State learns from this for later
- 26:46Speaker 6: in the season against really good opponents? And they're going
- 26:50Speaker 6: to go out, they're going to win enough games.
- 26:55Speaker 2: To be in the college football playoff anyway. I mean,
- 26:58Speaker 2: think about it.
- 26:59Speaker 6: Ohio State, you think that the committee is going to
- 27:02Speaker 6: look at this as like a loss at the end
- 27:04Speaker 6: of the year? If they're talking about Ohio State and
- 27:08Speaker 6: any other two-loss team in college football, who do you
- 27:11Speaker 6: think gets the benefit of the doubt? There's no question
- 27:15Speaker 6: it's Ohio State, and it should be, by the way.
- 27:20Speaker 6: Now they can use a game in which they were
- 27:22Speaker 6: terrible in the fourth quarter, allow to come back against
- 27:25Speaker 6: a really good football team, learn from that and move forward.
- 27:28Speaker 6: It's just college football is sort of like the NFL season.
- 27:32Speaker 6: You can afford to lose a game early. It doesn't
- 27:37Speaker 6: feel good, but it doesn't wreck you like it did
- 27:40Speaker 6: 20 years ago in the BCS era.
- 27:43Speaker 2: You lost a game in week two. That might have
- 27:45Speaker 2: been your one shot at a title. Poof, gone. Could
- 27:49Speaker 2: have been.
- 27:52Speaker 6: I mean, and the other, I mean, shocking result. We
- 27:59Speaker 6: all had our fun. We all poked and prodded at
- 28:07Speaker 6: the Big Ten and at college football as a whole.
- 28:12Speaker 6: Throwing a second back on the clock for Michigan. Fraudulent
- 28:16Speaker 6: 1-0 record. Nobody buys it, all this different stuff.
- 28:21Speaker 2: For Michigan....
- 28:23Speaker 6: To go out the following week after being basically humiliated
- 28:26Speaker 6: for a week straight. It was like some sort of
- 28:30Speaker 6: college fraternity hazing ritual that Michigan was put through for
- 28:36Speaker 6: the last week. Of you won the game, but you
- 28:40Speaker 6: guys suck and we all hate you. They go out
- 28:45Speaker 6: the following week to play number 11, Oklahoma and beat
- 28:50Speaker 6: them 17 to 10.
- 28:51Speaker 2: Now there is a problem. I think one.
- 28:56Speaker 6: Thing's been established through two weeks, and it's only been
- 28:59Speaker 6: two weeks, but through two weeks, I think we can
- 29:01Speaker 6: say this. Michigan's defense is so good that they will
- 29:08Speaker 6: be in virtually every game. And Michigan's offense is so bad,
- 29:15Speaker 6: they have the ability to lose just about every game.
- 29:19Speaker 6: They won that game 17-10, and Bryce Underwood, they only
- 29:21Speaker 6: trust him to throw the ball 17 times. He finished
- 29:25Speaker 6: with 111 yards. That is not something that is sustainable
- 29:30Speaker 6: over 12 weeks. And we saw that in week one
- 29:33Speaker 6: against Western Michigan. And if Oklahoma could do anything on
- 29:37Speaker 6: the offensive side, you would have saw it in week two.
- 29:41Speaker 6: But now Kyle Whittingham has a problem. He's already kind
- 29:44Speaker 6: of called out Bryce Underwood and said he's the starting
- 29:47Speaker 6: quarterback for now. And this is going to feel, I think,
- 29:51Speaker 6: if Michigan keeps winning very Tebow-y in the Broncos era...
- 29:56Speaker 6: It's like, I'm watching this, I know this is bad,
- 29:59Speaker 6: and I know that we probably need to do something different,
- 30:01Speaker 6: but if we keep winning, now what? It has all
- 30:08Speaker 6: the trends and all the makings of that. Because Michigan
- 30:13Speaker 6: can play some defense. They held Oklahoma to 3.4 yards
- 30:17Speaker 6: per carry. They gave up maybe one big play the
- 30:22Speaker 6: entire game, and that was a throw to Rocky Beers,
- 30:25Speaker 6: of all people. But that offense, yuck. And they don't
- 30:35Speaker 6: trust Bryce Underwood to throw the football at all.
- 30:40Speaker 2: So, 303-504-0925.
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- 31:03Speaker 6: Yeah. Nelly, it's time. You're getting a little bit of
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- 31:36Speaker 2: As bad as bad gets.
- 31:38Speaker 5: Next.
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- 31:42Speaker 6: the seriously injured.
- 31:43Speaker 2: The final whistle is just the beginning.
- 31:46Speaker 6: And after every Broncos game this season, your favorite altitude
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- 32:01Speaker 6: prizes we give you. We're giving you Broncos scratcher tickets.
- 32:06Speaker 6: Last week, we gave tickets to the game airfare hotel
- 32:10Speaker 6: for the game tonight in a rock, paper, scissors contest.
- 32:14Speaker 6: We gave away tickets to the opener of the, the
- 32:16Speaker 6: av season. We gave away four different tickets of your
- 32:20Speaker 6: choosing to the nuggets this year.
- 32:25Speaker 2: Who does it better?
- 32:26Speaker 6: And the last thing is, I think I just made
- 32:28Speaker 6: it look too easy.
- 32:28Speaker 2: Damn right, Calvin.
- 32:32Speaker 6: I also listened this Saturday, so from 9 to, is
- 32:36Speaker 6: it 9 to 1, right?
- 32:37Speaker 2: 9 to 1? Yeah, the Altitude Saturdays.
- 32:39Speaker 6: I caught the little, the handoff, taking my daughter to
- 32:44Speaker 6: get some donuts. Heard Springer in the morning, along with
- 32:47Speaker 6: Dan Tanner a little bit later in the day, so
- 32:49Speaker 6: you can tune in for that local stuff from 9
- 32:51Speaker 6: to 1 every single Saturday. So, a whole bunch of
- 32:56Speaker 6: stuff that we got for you.
- 32:57Speaker 2: Now, I'll tell you this.
- 33:04Speaker 6: In watching all these games, and I've told you, it's
- 33:06Speaker 6: my favorite day of the year. The first Sunday of
- 33:10Speaker 6: the NFL season is my sports Christmas. It's I turn
- 33:14Speaker 6: on the TVs, wait for the Broncos game, turn on
- 33:19Speaker 6: Red Zone, do whatever. But that Red Zone at 11 a.m.
- 33:23Speaker 4: Hits.
- 33:25Speaker 2: Look, I've never been on hardcore drugs before.
- 33:28Speaker 6: I would assume the euphoric nature that I feel watching
- 33:32Speaker 6: that Red Zone go. Is just like, you know, I'm
- 33:37Speaker 6: re-watching Breaking Bad right now.
- 33:39Speaker 2: I've seen the way those guys react. That is my
- 33:43Speaker 2: blue meth.
- 33:43Speaker 6: Okay?
- 33:44Speaker 2: That's what it is. That's for me.
- 33:47Speaker 6: It's cooked up by Walter White himself. And mainlined for
- 33:53Speaker 6: an entire day. And in watching, there was a few
- 33:57Speaker 6: things that stood out. Here's the first one.
- 34:02Speaker 2: Scott Hansen.
- 34:04Speaker 6: Opens up his octobox or whatever he calls it. And
- 34:09Speaker 6: about two seconds in, I hear this. Deshaun Watson has
- 34:13Speaker 6: turned the ball over. I think, ah, that's a great
- 34:15Speaker 6: start for him. And then they cut back to the
- 34:17Speaker 6: Browns game again. And it's the Jags scoring a touchdown.
- 34:21Speaker 6: Cut back again. Oh, here's Deshaun Watson fumbling. Cut back
- 34:26Speaker 6: to that game.
- 34:27Speaker 2: Jags score. Cut back to that game.
- 34:29Speaker 6: Here's Deshaun Watson almost throwing another interception in the first quarter.
- 34:33Speaker 6: And all I can think to myself is, what are
- 34:36Speaker 6: you guys doing?
- 34:39Speaker 2: What's the point?
- 34:42Speaker 6: The Cleveland Browns, and I say this with love to
- 34:48Speaker 6: all of those Browns fans out there, Because I am
- 34:51Speaker 6: also a fan of a team that is incredibly stupid.
- 34:54Speaker 2: Okay?
- 34:55Speaker 6: I know what that life is like. I have Browns friends.
- 35:01Speaker 6: We confide in each other about how stupid our football
- 35:04Speaker 6: teams are. I can't think of literally in my life
- 35:10Speaker 6: a worse time for the Browns. I watched them go 0-16.
- 35:12Speaker 6: This isn't that bad.
- 35:14Speaker 4: Actively.
- 35:16Speaker 2: Actively.
- 35:17Speaker 6: Making the decision to start a player who is horrible
- 35:21Speaker 6: at football, who the fan base hates, and if you
- 35:25Speaker 6: watched any of that Browns and Jags game, his own
- 35:28Speaker 6: teammates can't stand either. You know what that was, Nelly,
- 35:31Speaker 6: which is hard to do in week one? That was
- 35:33Speaker 6: an uninspired football team that didn't believe in their quarterback.
- 35:38Speaker 6: The first snap of the season, you could tell.
- 35:41Speaker 2: The very first one. And there's no coming back from that.
- 35:44Speaker 6: And if they had any balls, they'd make the decision
- 35:47Speaker 6: right now, we're not doing this again.
- 35:49Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson, you can sit and park.
- 35:52Speaker 6: Your $ 230 million ass on the bench for all I care.
- 35:58Speaker 6: You do the same thing that Minnesota did with J.J. McCarthy, which,
- 36:01Speaker 6: by the way, I want to get to Minnesota in
- 36:03Speaker 6: a second. That's a team that has balls. Yeah, we
- 36:07Speaker 6: messed up. We let go of a quarterback that won
- 36:10Speaker 6: 14 games for us. He went on to win the
- 36:11Speaker 6: Super Bowl the following year for a different team. And
- 36:14Speaker 6: we went with a first-round guy that can't play. So
- 36:17Speaker 6: what did they say? We're going to park J.J. McCarthy
- 36:22Speaker 6: as the inactive third-string quarterback. And when Kevin O'Connell was asked, well,
- 36:26Speaker 6: why would you do that? Do you remember what his
- 36:29Speaker 6: response was? Because it gives us the best chance to win.
- 36:34Speaker 2: And how quickly did that come into play, Nelly? About
- 36:39Speaker 2: One drive.
- 36:41Speaker 6: Kyler Murray runs out to the right, gets his head
- 36:43Speaker 6: knocked off, concussed, clearly. And in comes Carson Wentz, who
- 36:48Speaker 6: goes on to throw three touchdowns, and they beat the
- 36:51Speaker 6: Packers by 17.
- 36:54Speaker 2: In the opening game.
- 36:55Speaker 6: After, by the way, trailing 22 to, what, 22 to
- 36:58Speaker 6: 17 or something like that?
- 36:59Speaker 2: 22 to 10?
- 37:01Speaker 6: Because that's what a smart organization does. It says, hey,
- 37:11Speaker 6: I know we messed up. We're just going to have
- 37:14Speaker 6: to eat it. There's no more trying to prove anything.
- 37:19Speaker 6: And I don't care how bad Shador or Dylan Gabriel
- 37:23Speaker 6: or who's the other guy, Talon Green or whatever his
- 37:25Speaker 6: name is. I don't care about the other guys on there.
- 37:32Speaker 6: You can't start Deshaun Watson again. That's an absolute embarrassment.
- 37:39Speaker 6: I can't believe they actually went to it and tried
- 37:42Speaker 6: to act like that was the right decision too.
- 37:47Speaker 2: Because I'll tell you this much.
- 37:51Speaker 6: A young quarterback can go out and maybe if Shador
- 37:53Speaker 6: starts that game, it looks the exact same.
- 37:56Speaker 2: Maybe it does.
- 37:58Speaker 6: But it's not going to feel the way that that
- 38:00Speaker 6: game felt. I think in just alone, getting some of
- 38:06Speaker 6: the team back on board would help.
- 38:10Speaker 2: And I said this from.
- 38:11Speaker 6: The beginning if you were listening to when we did
- 38:13Speaker 6: our power rankings with tears.
- 38:16Speaker 2: I think I had them at 31st in the league.
- 38:19Speaker 6: And it feels to me like Todd Munkin is a
- 38:23Speaker 6: lame duck quarterback or lame duck head coach who's just
- 38:27Speaker 6: there for a year.
- 38:27Speaker 2: Much in the same way, who was the Houston Texans
- 38:32Speaker 2: coach after they fired Levy Smith? Culley? David Coley was
- 38:37Speaker 2: his name.
- 38:38Speaker 6: There for a year, everybody knew this wasn't going to
- 38:40Speaker 6: be the long-term solution, but you need a coach for
- 38:42Speaker 6: a season. But God, I can't believe how embarrassing that was.
- 38:52Speaker 2: And it happened immediately. After the first quarter, you're down 14-0. Halftime, 24-0.
- 38:59Speaker 6: Opening drive of the third quarter, 31-0. And it was
- 39:10Speaker 6: that fast. You're like, nope, this doesn't work. We should
- 39:13Speaker 6: probably quit. Now the Vikings, here's what's crazy. And mention
- 39:22Speaker 6: this before. Minnesota is a very talented football team with
- 39:26Speaker 6: a really awful quarterback situation. They have talent all over
- 39:29Speaker 6: the field. The question was going to be, was Kevin O'Connell,
- 39:38Speaker 6: who is a quarterback whisperer, he gets the most out
- 39:41Speaker 6: of anybody who runs through that position. Can he make
- 39:45Speaker 6: Kyler Murray reinvent him of sorts? into a decent starting
- 39:50Speaker 6: quarterback again in the league. Because if he can, then
- 39:53Speaker 6: that team's going to play well. And I watched Kyler
- 39:56Speaker 6: Murray almost immediately in that game go down with the concussion.
- 40:01Speaker 6: That was after he threw an interception. Like, there was
- 40:03Speaker 6: a whole bunch of stuff going on. In comes Carson Wentz.
- 40:08Speaker 6: They're playing against the Green Bay Packers, and they go,
- 40:10Speaker 6: all right, well, this game's over.
- 40:13Speaker 2: And for them to.
- 40:14Speaker 6: Battle back, and he gets a three-touchdown performance out of
- 40:17Speaker 6: Carson Wentz, And they win by 17, including putting up
- 40:22Speaker 6: 22 in the fourth quarter. It's incredibly impressive. But it
- 40:28Speaker 6: also hit me, how bad is J.J.
- 40:32Speaker 2: McCarthy?
- 40:36Speaker 6: That they make the decision to make him inactive. Because
- 40:41Speaker 6: you aren't thinking that Carson Wentz is going to play,
- 40:43Speaker 6: not in week one. But that he does, goes out
- 40:47Speaker 6: there and plays great. Better than any game that J.J.
- 40:50Speaker 6: McCarthy ever had. How bad is that, dude? I mean,
- 41:00Speaker 6: it's pretty nuts. And then just a couple other quick hitters.
- 41:06Speaker 6: The Chicago Bears might score 8 billion points this year
- 41:09Speaker 6: and give up 7 billion on the defensive side, but
- 41:12Speaker 6: that might be good enough for them to win a
- 41:13Speaker 6: whole bunch of football games again.
- 41:15Speaker 2: Putting up 59... in the opener to.
- 41:18Speaker 6: The season, and I think they had six rushing touchdowns
- 41:20Speaker 6: on the day, multiple 100-yard rushers. Ben Johnson is a wizard,
- 41:28Speaker 6: I guess is the only sort of conclusion we can
- 41:30Speaker 6: come to. And the Cowboys losing to the Giants is
- 41:34Speaker 6: very surprising. Because I still don't know if I buy
- 41:38Speaker 6: this Giants, Jackson Dart, Cam Scadaboo thing. But I do
- 41:45Speaker 6: know that Look, man, the Cowboys are capable of putting
- 41:49Speaker 6: up a lot of points. They couldn't run the football
- 41:51Speaker 6: at all last night. Dak Prescott looked very limited in
- 41:55Speaker 6: that game. I mean, you just got George Pickens on
- 41:58Speaker 6: the big new, or he's looking for a big new deal.
- 42:01Speaker 6: He's on the franchise tag right now. He only had
- 42:03Speaker 6: three catches for 28 yards. CeeDee Lamb only five for 44.
- 42:08Speaker 6: And yet, the Giants went out, ran the football incredibly effectively.
- 42:14Speaker 2: Jackson Dart looked great. Maybe things are actually coming together.
- 42:19Speaker 6: You know, we just had these stats about the last
- 42:23Speaker 6: time that the CU Buffs and the CSU Rams both
- 42:27Speaker 6: started a season 1-0 and now 2-0. When's the last
- 42:31Speaker 6: time the Jets and the Giants were both 1-0 to
- 42:34Speaker 6: start the year? How's that for a stat? Now, both played,
- 42:39Speaker 6: I think, the most garbage teams you can play in
- 42:41Speaker 6: the league. The Jets played the Titans. I'm sorry, the
- 42:44Speaker 6: Giants didn't, but the Jets played the Titans. I was
- 42:47Speaker 6: thinking of the Raiders and the Dolphins. Raiders are 1-0,
- 42:51Speaker 6: but they played Miami. And Miami looked every bit what
- 42:54Speaker 6: we thought Miami was going to be at to start
- 42:56Speaker 6: the year. So a bunch to talk about over the
- 42:59Speaker 6: NFL and college football weekend. We have the first game
- 43:01Speaker 6: of the year for the Broncos tonight, Monday night football
- 43:03Speaker 6: against the Chiefs. And you can watch the show live
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