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- 0:05Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. I do not know how
- 0:10Speaker 1: wealthy educated socialite women get suckered into a sex cult,
- 0:19Speaker 1: I mean a sex cult that's bizarre, where young girls
- 0:24Speaker 1: are raped, forced into orgies, even branded, yes, branded like cattle.
- 0:30Speaker 1: In the last hours, a bombshell development in the case
- 0:35Speaker 1: against Keith Ranieri, the founder of Nexium sex cult. I'm
- 0:41Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being
- 0:44Speaker 1: with us. Keith Renier, and let me tell you he's
- 0:47Speaker 1: not much to look at. I do not know how
- 0:51Speaker 1: these women got sucked into his craziness to become part
- 0:55Speaker 1: of a bona fidei sex cult, but they did, and
- 1:00Speaker 1: this guy was the mastermind. In the last days, this guy,
- 1:06Speaker 1: Keith Renier, has been declared guilty on all counts including racketeering,
- 1:13Speaker 1: wire fraud, conspiracy, forced labor conspiracy, and sex trafficking, now
- 1:21Speaker 1: facing life behind bars after a jury arrives at a
- 1:24Speaker 1: unanimous verdict after just four hours of deliberation. This after
- 1:30Speaker 1: six weeks of testimony in the case, during which multiple
- 1:34Speaker 1: women describing lured into the sex slavey group to recount
- 1:39Speaker 1: their experience as the jurars men and women were shocked.
- 1:44Speaker 1: Fornier it actually issued an order for these women to
- 1:47Speaker 1: be branded with his initials in an extremely painful process.
- 1:53Speaker 1: I mean, think about it. Taking a hot iron, burning
- 1:58Speaker 1: it until it's read, and then putting it on human flesh.
- 2:03Speaker 1: He described it in one recording as a sacrificial whatever.
- 2:09Speaker 1: That's what he said. Let me tell you something, A
- 2:13Speaker 1: lot of people are going to be on the front
- 2:15Speaker 1: row when he gets sentence September twenty five. Of course
- 2:18Speaker 1: he insists he's innocent, but all these women come forward
- 2:21Speaker 1: to describe what he did to them. Alexis Terreschuk joining
- 2:26Speaker 1: me from Radar Online dot Com investigative reporter. Alexis it's
- 2:30Speaker 1: a little hard for me to believe this. Start at
- 2:33Speaker 1: the beginning, Alexus Terrestrict. The police are saying is that
- 2:36Speaker 1: they spent years recruiting women around the country, around the
- 2:41Speaker 1: world to join what was supposed to be a female
- 2:43Speaker 1: empowerment club, you know, kind of like a yoga class extraordinaire,
- 2:48Speaker 1: and you would go and this man, Keith is so charismatic.
- 2:51Speaker 1: You want to be a part of this thing that
- 2:52Speaker 1: gives women power. Instead, they were turned into sex slaves
- 2:57Speaker 1: who were branded branded literally with a hot poker on
- 3:01Speaker 1: their bodies to become a member of this cult. And
- 3:04Speaker 1: there's not a better word for it. It's not a
- 3:07Speaker 1: women's group, it's not a tennis club. It is a cult.
- 3:09Speaker 1: Because these women were having to give when they joined
- 3:13Speaker 1: and professed their faith to this cult. They were having
- 3:17Speaker 1: they were blackmail. They had to give things like naked
- 3:19Speaker 1: pictures of themselves are the most compromising stories about themselves.
- 3:23Speaker 1: They had to give this to the leaders of the
- 3:24Speaker 1: group so that in case they ever left this begin
- 3:27Speaker 1: It sounds like a freaky, weird, felonious version of scientology
- 3:32Speaker 1: where you have to have be audited and tell all
- 3:34Speaker 1: the worst things you've ever done, the extreme in your life,
- 3:37Speaker 1: and then they have it to hold over your head. Guys,
- 3:41Speaker 1: hold on with me. As Alexis Jurez Chuck investigative reporter
- 3:44Speaker 1: with Radar Online dot Com but now joining us is
- 3:49Speaker 1: the journalist who originally broke the story of this cult.
- 3:54Speaker 1: It's real NXIVM pronounced nexium. It's found Keith Rainieri allegedly
- 4:01Speaker 1: subjecting women to humiliating sex acts and branding women and
- 4:07Speaker 1: their pelvic area with a series of initials. It had
- 4:12Speaker 1: a large basse, has a large bass in Albany, New York.
- 4:18Speaker 1: The guy who first cracked this story, journalist Frank Parlotto,
- 4:23Speaker 1: and the former Nexium publicist. You can find out all
- 4:27Speaker 1: about him and a lot of his work at Art Voice.
- 4:31Speaker 1: Frank Parlotto, thank you for being with us. This is
- 4:33Speaker 1: such a wildly fantastical story it's almost hard to believe.
- 4:38Speaker 1: And Frank, you broke the story. What happened, Well, initially
- 4:43Speaker 1: it began just called Nextium in nineteen ninety eight, and
- 4:48Speaker 1: on two thousand and two they achieved their first great recruit,
- 4:52Speaker 1: and that was Seagram's heiress Claire Brockmann. With her hundreds
- 4:58Speaker 1: of millions of dollars behind the cult, they were able
- 5:01Speaker 1: to recruits various celebrities such as Kristin Kruk, Grace Park,
- 5:10Speaker 1: and Alison Matt. Matt became a true believer, and in
- 5:14Speaker 1: time she elevated herself to nearly the top of the
- 5:18Speaker 1: cult and became Ranier's top recruiter of young, attractive new
- 5:25Speaker 1: Bile slender women or ranees invidious sex cults who wa wa, wait,
- 5:31Speaker 1: what did you say? What kind of women? He had
- 5:33Speaker 1: a type and they were young, slender, long haired, new
- 5:38Speaker 1: bile and attractive prosperably with a little bit of monch. Okay, sorry, Jackie,
- 5:44Speaker 1: we're out. Okay, we're not getting into they as as
- 5:49Speaker 1: they say, the unique human development and women's movement, that
- 5:55Speaker 1: is what Alison Matt, the thirty five year old star
- 6:00Speaker 1: of the hit series Smallville, had been tweeting and sending
- 6:06Speaker 1: notes to Kelly Clarkson and also to Emma Watson, trying
- 6:13Speaker 1: to lure them in. Luckily they're smart enough to stay
- 6:17Speaker 1: away from it. Frank Parlotto with me, the former Nexian publicist.
- 6:22Speaker 1: He's in charge of an incredible site called Art Voice
- 6:26Speaker 1: and the journalists that first broke the story. So it
- 6:29Speaker 1: all starts off with a fringe group that manages to
- 6:33Speaker 1: recruit an heiress from the Seagram's liquor dynasty, and she
- 6:39Speaker 1: pumps a lot of money into it. They according to
- 6:44Speaker 1: Frank solicit young. I don't believe I've heard anybody say
- 6:48Speaker 1: the word new bile in a long time. It's flashback
- 6:51Speaker 1: to Playboy in nineteen ninety. But okay, not judging Frank Young,
- 6:57Speaker 1: thin women, Okay, what happens? Then? It begins innocently enough.
- 7:05Speaker 1: The first meetings are surrounded with a group of women,
- 7:10Speaker 1: all of them already in the cult, who present a
- 7:15Speaker 1: picture of normalcy, a picture of a friendly, wonderful, kind
- 7:20Speaker 1: of lovely sorority. I think the term that's often used
- 7:23Speaker 1: in these kinds of cult like recruitment scenarios is love bombing.
- 7:31Speaker 1: A woman comes in, she's told that this kind of
- 7:34Speaker 1: program will improve her life, she'll get life coaching, and
- 7:38Speaker 1: she'll be mentored by other women who care about her.
- 7:42Speaker 1: That's the initial deception. Then what happens, So they have
- 7:46Speaker 1: the facade of normalcy. So you think you're joining a
- 7:50Speaker 1: women's group, Is that right, Frank Parlato. Yes, you are
- 7:54Speaker 1: elbow to elbow with stars like Alison Mack or Kristin Krug.
- 7:58Speaker 1: You're hobnabbing with Claire Brafman, who's Seagrim's heiress, and surrounded
- 8:05Speaker 1: by attractive women, all of them slender. Later you'll realize
- 8:09Speaker 1: why they're so slender. They're kept down restrictive diets. But
- 8:13Speaker 1: your initial impression is this is really quite an exciting
- 8:16Speaker 1: opportunity for me or whoever it is that's joining. And
- 8:21Speaker 1: then they begin be hypnotic induction. Okay, what's that? It's
- 8:26Speaker 1: a very carefully laid out plan and Keith Rinieri, the
- 8:30Speaker 1: head of Nexium, is a master hypnotist. This is his
- 8:35Speaker 1: art and this is his specialty. And you begin by
- 8:39Speaker 1: attending very long classes. They're very intense, high intensity classes.
- 8:44Speaker 1: They begin at seven in the morning and the end
- 8:46Speaker 1: of ten or eleven at night, and there is a
- 8:50Speaker 1: slow hypnotic process that goes on, very carefully laid scheme. Well,
- 8:55Speaker 1: what are the classes about, Frank. They purport to be
- 8:58Speaker 1: about new ways of doing critical thinking. In fact, it's
- 9:02Speaker 1: called rational inquiry, and they start to challenge the students
- 9:07Speaker 1: on various kinds of conceptions that they've long held as
- 9:12Speaker 1: their base of beliefs, such as what well, for instance,
- 9:16Speaker 1: they begin kind of innocently, they talk about the criminal code,
- 9:22Speaker 1: the social morays. They ask you, for example, to make
- 9:28Speaker 1: a list of all of the advantages that would accrue
- 9:33Speaker 1: to you if your boyfriend or husband should happen to die. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa,
- 9:42Speaker 1: whoa whoa right there, right there, it sounds to me
- 9:45Speaker 1: and Karen start with me, a New York psychologist, very
- 9:49Speaker 1: well known. That's exactly what happens. When you get brainwashed
- 9:53Speaker 1: your core beliefs. You're you're incouraged to start questioning them
- 9:57Speaker 1: until suddenly what you're doing doesn't same wrong at all.
- 10:00Speaker 1: I've seen it in yangs. There's a whole us versus
- 10:04Speaker 1: them mentality that ensues, and they choose people that are susceptible.
- 10:10Speaker 1: And as that brainwashing experiences occurring that you just mentioned, Nancy,
- 10:16Speaker 1: what happens is that they become more and more open
- 10:20Speaker 1: to the suggestibility of the cult and they are actual
- 10:24Speaker 1: they're beginning to discover brain changes that occur. That starts,
- 10:30Speaker 1: it's like an overload of information that starts to happen,
- 10:35Speaker 1: so that the individual becomes more entrenched. And it's hard
- 10:41Speaker 1: to believe how convincing this new world becomes. But think
- 10:46Speaker 1: about Manson and all the girls that he was able
- 10:50Speaker 1: to attract to him, which when we're looking on the outside,
- 10:54Speaker 1: makes no sense. Crime stories with Nancy Grace welcome back.
- 11:12Speaker 1: I mean, see Grace and breaking news right now. The
- 11:14Speaker 1: leader of a so called sex called Keith Ranieri, and
- 11:18Speaker 1: this is a guy highly educated, has money, has a home,
- 11:24Speaker 1: has had very reputable jobs, ends up leading a sex
- 11:29Speaker 1: called Well, he's got plenty of time to think about it,
- 11:32Speaker 1: because a jury has just thrown the book at him,
- 11:34Speaker 1: guilty on all seven counts. But how does this happen
- 11:39Speaker 1: in the two thousands, Frank Parlotto with me former nexting publicist,
- 11:45Speaker 1: the journalists that broke the story and has a site
- 11:47Speaker 1: called art Voice. Frank, somehow this guy Ranieri, Keith Ranieri,
- 11:55Speaker 1: managed to brainwash, you know, powerful and educated and wealthy women.
- 12:02Speaker 1: So they're in these grueling classes about questioning their beliefs.
- 12:08Speaker 1: How does it go, Frank Parlato to getting branded with
- 12:12Speaker 1: a hot iron on your pelvic region. Well, you have
- 12:16Speaker 1: to consider that it took nine years from Ellison Mac's
- 12:21Speaker 1: first entree into the cult to the day she was
- 12:26Speaker 1: branded and began to brand of your women, nine long
- 12:31Speaker 1: years of hypnotic conduction. So to Alexas Treschut, investigative reporter
- 12:37Speaker 1: with Radar Online dot com, what starts as a women's
- 12:40Speaker 1: empowerment group with a facade of normalcy ends with sex
- 12:45Speaker 1: trafficking and literally branding women physically. And these women were
- 12:52Speaker 1: expected and I'm pressured by Alison and Keith into having
- 12:56Speaker 1: sex with Keith. And it wasn't just Alison, Keith was
- 13:00Speaker 1: all of the women and that's what and they were
- 13:03Speaker 1: they were told and the indictment revealed that they were
- 13:06Speaker 1: threatened with physical force and violence if they didn't submit
- 13:09Speaker 1: to this, that they would be physically harmed if they
- 13:13Speaker 1: didn't submit to have sex with Keith, and then the
- 13:16Speaker 1: brand name they were really lied to. These women were
- 13:19Speaker 1: told that joining this organization, you know, into the upper
- 13:23Speaker 1: levels of the of the club Splash Cold, that they
- 13:26Speaker 1: would just get a small tattoo. And the first woman
- 13:29Speaker 1: they came out and said, I had I was fine
- 13:31Speaker 1: with a small tattoo. But instead they were taken into
- 13:34Speaker 1: a room. They were placed on a massage table, the
- 13:38Speaker 1: face up. Three people held them. One person held each
- 13:41Speaker 1: leg and the other held their shoulders, and their arms
- 13:44Speaker 1: held them down, and these initials were carrized into their body, burned,
- 13:51Speaker 1: turned into their body, and it literally took between like
- 13:54Speaker 1: twenty and thirty minutes. One of the women who came
- 13:56Speaker 1: forward said, I disassociated. I felt like I left my body.
- 14:00Speaker 1: I wept the entire time because it was so awful.
- 14:03Speaker 1: What were the initials that were branded into the women?
- 14:08Speaker 1: Keith Ranier's initials are in this branding. It's a K
- 14:11Speaker 1: and an R design. And in fact he has said,
- 14:14Speaker 1: well what if if they were Bill Gates as initials,
- 14:18Speaker 1: you wouldn't care, but because their mind, you're upset about it.
- 14:21Speaker 1: It's horrific that these women were burned this way. Well,
- 14:24Speaker 1: I would care no matter who. Initials were branded into
- 14:28Speaker 1: my skin or my daughter's skin branded to Joseph Scott Morgan,
- 14:33Speaker 1: forensics expert and professor of forensics at Jacksonville State University.
- 14:38Speaker 1: Long story short, that is your prime forensic evidence right there. Yeah,
- 14:44Speaker 1: and this is not something that's going to be going away.
- 14:48Speaker 1: It's branded into the skin. It creates this this nasty
- 14:52Speaker 1: looking kind of keylloid scar. I've seen these on gang
- 14:55Speaker 1: members primarily, and it's really interesting, Nancy. You perilel held
- 15:00Speaker 1: this earlier talking about gang membership. One of the things
- 15:02Speaker 1: that some gangs and even fraternal organizations will will do
- 15:07Speaker 1: is take a h take a coat hanger, for instance,
- 15:10Speaker 1: and bend it into a particular shape, heat superheated, and
- 15:15Speaker 1: then branded in and um. And it's really interesting that
- 15:19Speaker 1: that the uh, these women are so beaten down at
- 15:23Speaker 1: this point mentally and emotionally where they get them to
- 15:27Speaker 1: this point where he, the leader obviously feels comfortable with
- 15:31Speaker 1: doing this to them and they allow it to certain
- 15:35Speaker 1: degree to be done to them because they're they're staying
- 15:39Speaker 1: within this environment. It's almost like it's like all norms
- 15:43Speaker 1: have been stripped away. Of course this is more Karen's area,
- 15:45Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, it is. It is something. It is
- 15:49Speaker 1: a unique identifier that has left behind that will be
- 15:53Speaker 1: connected back to them, you know too. And Bremner, high
- 15:56Speaker 1: profile Seattle lawyer who has been at the forefront of
- 15:59Speaker 1: so many many renowned cases. And Bremner, in what universe
- 16:05Speaker 1: is it suddenly okay to hold a woman down by
- 16:10Speaker 1: force and brand her with a hot iron. I mean,
- 16:14Speaker 1: at any point didn't these people go, WHOA, this is
- 16:18Speaker 1: so wrong. I got to get out of here. Well,
- 16:21Speaker 1: I mean, it's just so alarming and amazing. And you
- 16:24Speaker 1: know what these cults somebody does I think Karen mentioned
- 16:26Speaker 1: the Manson cult. I mean they went out and killed
- 16:28Speaker 1: for him, and I don't we don't understand it. You know,
- 16:31Speaker 1: at some point you say, I've got to get out
- 16:33Speaker 1: of here. Alison Max's bizarre blog, she had detailed life
- 16:38Speaker 1: and an alleged sex cult. And while she says, quote
- 16:43Speaker 1: it seems like it has been a lifetime in here already,
- 16:47Speaker 1: it's not going to matter as to her feelings about
- 16:52Speaker 1: if she wanted to get out because her actions belie
- 16:56Speaker 1: that she was taking part, according to the step, in
- 17:00Speaker 1: recruiting and using young girls women in a sex cult
- 17:05Speaker 1: where they were physically branded with a hot iron. I
- 17:08Speaker 1: want you to hear on ABC's twenty twenty a report
- 17:13Speaker 1: on this group, this cult, Nexium, and it's right here
- 17:16Speaker 1: in our country, and there are Hollywood stars and wealthy
- 17:21Speaker 1: educated women as part of it. Take a listen to this,
- 17:25Speaker 1: including former members as they describe being stripped, naked, blindfolded, tattooed,
- 17:34Speaker 1: and abused. Listen to ABC's twenty twenty five women summoned
- 17:38Speaker 1: to a house outside Albany, New York, one night this
- 17:41Speaker 1: past March. Sarah Edmondson says she was one of them,
- 17:47Speaker 1: willingly participating in a strange initiation ritual led by a
- 17:52Speaker 1: woman who told everyone to take off their clothes and
- 17:56Speaker 1: put on a blindfold. Let us in blindfold and sat
- 18:00Speaker 1: us in a semicircle fuck naked, no clothes on a
- 18:04Speaker 1: cheepskin rug Like, could you could that be any weirder? No,
- 18:08Speaker 1: it could not be any weirder. We were all you know,
- 18:11Speaker 1: my goodness, what's going on here? This is so weird
- 18:15Speaker 1: weird doesn't begin to cover it. Sarah told authority she
- 18:19Speaker 1: thought they were there to get tattoos. Instead, she says,
- 18:23Speaker 1: they found out they were all going to be branded.
- 18:26Speaker 1: It sounds like a horror movie. It was a horror movie.
- 18:29Speaker 1: It was the most inhumane, horrific way to treat anybody.
- 18:34Speaker 1: What was that like? It was worse than childbirth. It
- 18:37Speaker 1: was worse than childbirth. It was imagine a hot laser
- 18:45Speaker 1: dragged to crash your flege for thirty minutes without anesthetic.
- 19:04Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace, Welcome back on Nancy Grace.
- 19:14Speaker 1: Keith Rainieri, founder of the Next FIM's sex cult, guilty
- 19:18Speaker 1: on all counts. The jury was barely out long enough
- 19:21Speaker 1: to get a drink, a soda and some snacks, and
- 19:25Speaker 1: they return a guilty verdict. I'm sure the prosecutors are
- 19:27Speaker 1: dancing up and down the halls. Mixed reviews from victims families,
- 19:33Speaker 1: The victory bitter sweet. Yes he's going to jail, but
- 19:37Speaker 1: think of what all these young girls have lived through,
- 19:41Speaker 1: so many lives changed forever. You were just listening to
- 19:46Speaker 1: ABC's twenty twenty and a report on NEXIM It's spelled
- 19:51Speaker 1: n x I the M and with me is the
- 19:56Speaker 1: former publicist for NEXIM who wrote the story, journalist Frank Parlotta.
- 20:03Speaker 1: You can find him on art Voice online. Frank, I
- 20:08Speaker 1: still don't understand how women were brainwashed into thinking this
- 20:11Speaker 1: was okay. As now charges of sex trafficking are going down.
- 20:16Speaker 1: Where do those from? Where do those charges stand? World
- 20:20Speaker 1: two witnesses and there are others, but strictly speaking, the
- 20:25Speaker 1: Jane Joe one and the Jane Joe number two, both
- 20:30Speaker 1: of these were escaped slaves from the sex culture who
- 20:34Speaker 1: told their horrifying stories first to me, and then I
- 20:40Speaker 1: encourage them to go to the FBI to tell their
- 20:44Speaker 1: entire story, which they did. Their horror emanated primarily from this,
- 20:49Speaker 1: and this is a secret that many don't yet understand.
- 20:53Speaker 1: It just didn't start with Brandy. It began by the procurement,
- 20:58Speaker 1: the assiduous procurement by Wilson mac of blackmail worthy material.
- 21:04Speaker 1: So the slippery slope occurred where you began as a
- 21:10Speaker 1: women's empowerment, you were brainwashed. You gave blackmail worthy material
- 21:17Speaker 1: to Allison and Keith R. Neary, and suddenly you found
- 21:20Speaker 1: that what you thought was voluntary no longer became voluntary.
- 21:25Speaker 1: But of course, so let me understand this Alexus terres
- 21:29Speaker 1: Chuck Radar online dot Com investigative reporter, this sex called Nexium,
- 21:36Speaker 1: which allegedly forces women to have relations with its leader
- 21:41Speaker 1: and brands them, we believe with his initials and others
- 21:47Speaker 1: Alexis terres Chuck. As far as the sex trafficking goes,
- 21:51Speaker 1: what is the origin of the claim? So for sex trafficking,
- 21:54Speaker 1: she has been accused of recruiting these women from all
- 21:57Speaker 1: over and taking them to different places to have sex
- 21:59Speaker 1: with ring year And what they're saying is they used
- 22:02Speaker 1: either force or coercion. She excuse me, used forced or
- 22:05Speaker 1: coercion to make them have sex with him, and so
- 22:09Speaker 1: they traveled all over the world, this group did. And
- 22:13Speaker 1: in fact, when she the last video we saw of
- 22:16Speaker 1: Alison mac is, Keith was arrested in March in Mexico.
- 22:21Speaker 1: They'd been hiding out in a very very very high
- 22:23Speaker 1: end home in Mexico and the authorities captured him. Allison
- 22:28Speaker 1: jumps in a car and there is video of her
- 22:31Speaker 1: chasing the police and chasing the car that Keith is
- 22:34Speaker 1: in in hysterics. Basically, she is so upset that her
- 22:40Speaker 1: leader has been arrested and she is She's not somebody
- 22:43Speaker 1: who was like, oh, yeah, this is right, this is bad.
- 22:45Speaker 1: This guy's finally been arrested, thank goodness for me. No,
- 22:48Speaker 1: she is convinced that this guy is being treated unfairly,
- 22:51Speaker 1: and so she was chasing the police down as if
- 22:53Speaker 1: to try to rescue him from the cops in Wolco. Well.
- 22:56Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, take a listen to Hollywood
- 22:59Speaker 1: store Alice mac as she is interviewing the alleged cult
- 23:03Speaker 1: leader about his program that quote helps actors be better actors. Okay, listen,
- 23:10Speaker 1: I wanted to talk a little bit about the Source,
- 23:12Speaker 1: which is the company that you've created for actors, artists,
- 23:16Speaker 1: people who want to get better at expressing in general.
- 23:21Speaker 1: Several years ago, when we first met, I had said
- 23:23Speaker 1: to you, would you be willing to work with me
- 23:25Speaker 1: and becoming a better actress, and you said, yeah, you know,
- 23:28Speaker 1: we'll talk about it. And then several years later you
- 23:32Speaker 1: started working with me and a bunch of other people
- 23:34Speaker 1: to develop a curriculum specifically for actors. And I've been
- 23:38Speaker 1: talking to different people about it in like different actors
- 23:41Speaker 1: and things like that, enrolling them in the idea of
- 23:42Speaker 1: coming and participating and saying what you've created, because it's
- 23:46Speaker 1: been incredible for me. And a lot of the questions
- 23:49Speaker 1: that they ask is like, well, how is it different
- 23:51Speaker 1: than Meisner? How is it different than Stella Adler or whatever,
- 23:53Speaker 1: And a lot of what the answers that I've given
- 23:56Speaker 1: have been like, well, it's sort of, it's sort of
- 24:00Speaker 1: it's a partnership with that because it gives you the
- 24:02Speaker 1: foundation underneath all of the technical skills and all of
- 24:06Speaker 1: the kind of traditional approaches to acting that we've had
- 24:10Speaker 1: throughout time, Like it really gets to the core of
- 24:15Speaker 1: the actor so that you can work on the raw
- 24:17Speaker 1: material and then everything else that they produce is affected
- 24:20Speaker 1: by that. But I don't know, Like I'm curious to
- 24:23Speaker 1: know what your perception is of the curriculum that you
- 24:26Speaker 1: created and where it came from. And well, it comes
- 24:29Speaker 1: from a mix of human behavior and philosophy and also
- 24:35Speaker 1: really technical communication. You know, acting is all about a
- 24:40Speaker 1: type of communication and being not only more aware, but
- 24:46Speaker 1: more congruent in your communication. So you want people to,
- 24:51Speaker 1: if you will, to be a bit common in what
- 24:57Speaker 1: I say. You want people to buy your character right,
- 25:01Speaker 1: and the way they buy it is they find it
- 25:05Speaker 1: congruent and authentic the questions. I mean, if someone could
- 25:09Speaker 1: be totally congruent in a character and express authentically through
- 25:13Speaker 1: that character, so they could do any sort of a
- 25:16Speaker 1: scene or whatever, certainly that actor could do anything. So
- 25:21Speaker 1: the question is, how do you achieve that? How do
- 25:24Speaker 1: you achieve congruents? How do you achieve authenticity? And I
- 25:28Speaker 1: think there are many roads to do this. The thing
- 25:31Speaker 1: that I think makes the source a bit unique is
- 25:36Speaker 1: I come from a non acting background. You could say
- 25:38Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm talking about, So that's good
- 25:43Speaker 1: and bad. The good aspect is it comes from a behaviorist,
- 25:50Speaker 1: humanist sort of practical and philosophical background, dealing with communication
- 26:00Speaker 1: with all sorts of things relating to the psychodynamics of
- 26:06Speaker 1: people and humans. As you hear Alison mac interviewing the
- 26:11Speaker 1: cult leader, compare that the dichotomy of these victims describing
- 26:18Speaker 1: being strip naked, blindfolded a tattoos. Sarah says she devoted
- 26:22Speaker 1: twelve years to Nexium, recruiting hundreds of new members, rising
- 26:27Speaker 1: through the organization, even opening and running a center in
- 26:31Speaker 1: Vancouver along the way, becoming best friends with Nancy Saltzman's
- 26:36Speaker 1: daughter Lauren, who was made of honor at Sarah's wedding.
- 26:40Speaker 1: She's like my therapist, and in the ranking system she's
- 26:42Speaker 1: also above me. Then in March, after all their years
- 26:46Speaker 1: together in Nexium, Sarah says, Lauren approached her about a
- 26:50Speaker 1: new and mysterious opportunity. She said, I want to avoue
- 26:53Speaker 1: you to something that totally changed my life. It was
- 26:57Speaker 1: a secret sorority for women only, life changing, but top secret.
- 27:03Speaker 1: And the first step is making a valve obedience to
- 27:06Speaker 1: her as me being a slave and her being my master.
- 27:09Speaker 1: Again she used the word slave, of course, yeah, and
- 27:14Speaker 1: objected every stage of the way, and she said, it's
- 27:16Speaker 1: just a it's a metaphor, it's a guru disciple. Then
- 27:20Speaker 1: came the night that Sarah says she and four other
- 27:23Speaker 1: women submitted one by one to being branded by this woman,
- 27:28Speaker 1: she says, doctor Danielle Roberts. And then the woman on
- 27:32Speaker 1: the table screamed out in pain, you know, twisted and
- 27:35Speaker 1: turned and yelled, and the woman I was with, holding
- 27:39Speaker 1: her legs down, we looked at each other and we
- 27:40Speaker 1: just wept. Why did you let go and run out
- 27:43Speaker 1: of there, even naked? It didn't seem like a choice
- 27:47Speaker 1: at the time, She points. Two years of Nexium training
- 27:50Speaker 1: and all the indoctrination, all the years of women are weak,
- 27:54Speaker 1: women have no character. Now is the time to prove
- 27:56Speaker 1: I can do it, and I said. Sarah gives another
- 27:59Speaker 1: explanation for her obedience. Before she joined the Secret Sorority
- 28:03Speaker 1: and got branded. She says, Laurence Saltzman had demanded highly
- 28:07Speaker 1: compromising collateral. You need to provide something to me that
- 28:11Speaker 1: I'm going to hold forever, just to confirm and to
- 28:14Speaker 1: solidify that you'll never share the secret. So what did
- 28:17Speaker 1: you give her? So? I gave her a written confessional,
- 28:20Speaker 1: and she says, for her and some others, the price
- 28:23Speaker 1: of admission to the secret group also included providing nude
- 28:27Speaker 1: photos of themselves. So understand when women do that, it's
- 28:30Speaker 1: very difficult to say no, I'm not doing this because
- 28:33Speaker 1: the person has something of you with them. Instantly, all
- 28:36Speaker 1: my alarm bells are going absolutely So why did you
- 28:39Speaker 1: do it? I did it because I trusted her. That
- 28:41Speaker 1: was from ABC's twenty twenty report on Nexium Crime Stories
- 28:58Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace. I mean, see Grace, this is crime stories.
- 29:03Speaker 1: Keith Rneer, the founder of a bizarre sex called Right
- 29:06Speaker 1: under Our Noses, including wealthy, educated, socialite women, I mean
- 29:11Speaker 1: famous women as part of this sex cult. Just had
- 29:16Speaker 1: the book thrown at him, and frankly, I can't wait
- 29:19Speaker 1: till he's sentenced. I hope he gets the maximum on
- 29:22Speaker 1: every account to run consecutively, one after the next. But
- 29:26Speaker 1: you gotta wonder. Yes, while I'm happy and relieved, more
- 29:30Speaker 1: relieved at the guilty verdict, I just gotta stop and
- 29:35Speaker 1: try to figure out how this happened. I mean, this
- 29:39Speaker 1: is going on right under our noses. How this is
- 29:43Speaker 1: how the whole thing works. I'm Former members of the
- 29:48Speaker 1: cult claim the Hollywood star Mac would lure young ladies
- 29:53Speaker 1: into joining the cult cult and then demand they turned
- 29:56Speaker 1: over quote collateral. The collateral would be compromising photos or
- 30:03Speaker 1: their personal assets, money belongings, car titles. That collateral was
- 30:08Speaker 1: then used by Mac to control the women who were
- 30:12Speaker 1: transformed into branded sex slaves. Now the founder, Ranieri was
- 30:19Speaker 1: arrested the way Alexis Reschuk just told us in Mexico,
- 30:25Speaker 1: the States said that during the past twenty years, Ranierie
- 30:31Speaker 1: established a series of self help programs. Self help programs.
- 30:40Speaker 1: They had centers, so they were getting a lot of money.
- 30:44Speaker 1: Funding in the US Mexico, Canada, South America, and it
- 30:49Speaker 1: was a pyramid scheme. The courses cost thousands of dollars
- 30:54Speaker 1: and the people that took them were then encouraged to
- 30:58Speaker 1: pay for other classes and recruit other people to take
- 31:02Speaker 1: the classes so they could rise up within the ranks.
- 31:06Speaker 1: It's like it's a pyramid scheme. And Bremner it's like
- 31:11Speaker 1: a Ponzi scheme. And Bremner Seattle lawyer explain what I
- 31:15Speaker 1: mean by pyramid. Basically, it's like Amoy or any of
- 31:18Speaker 1: these kinds of things that you just keep building membership
- 31:20Speaker 1: by using your members to go out and get to
- 31:22Speaker 1: the people, and just keep building that pyramid. There's a
- 31:25Speaker 1: lot of financial ones like that too, But this is
- 31:27Speaker 1: human trafficking and it's just self perpetuating. So what would
- 31:32Speaker 1: happen Frank Parlotto with me, the former Nextium publicist, the
- 31:36Speaker 1: journalists that first broke the story. You can find him
- 31:39Speaker 1: at art Voice. What would happen if someone try to
- 31:43Speaker 1: stop and leave the cult? Well, they threatened them with
- 31:47Speaker 1: the release of their quote unquote collateral. It all exploded
- 31:52Speaker 1: their own May of two thousand and seventeen, when the
- 31:55Speaker 1: secret part of Nextium they call it dust In that
- 32:00Speaker 1: stands for dominos, obsequious serrium, or the master over. The
- 32:05Speaker 1: slave women became revealed to the external group of Nexium,
- 32:11Speaker 1: the women who had not yet been branded, and that
- 32:15Speaker 1: caused kind of a chaotic explosion with the Nexium and
- 32:18Speaker 1: a rapid exodus. Ellison stuck with the group, as did
- 32:24Speaker 1: the core slaves, and even when the women's were threatened,
- 32:29Speaker 1: some of them, like Sarah Edmondson, decided to leave any
- 32:33Speaker 1: way and risk the collateral being released. Wow, it's just
- 32:38Speaker 1: amazing that this is happening right here under our own noses.
- 32:42Speaker 1: Take a listen to this. According to promotional materials, even
- 32:46Speaker 1: as a child, Ranieri was destined for greatness, speaking in
- 32:51Speaker 1: full sentences at age one, reading at age two, judo
- 32:55Speaker 1: champ and concert level pianist. At thirteen, I was told
- 33:02Speaker 1: that he was one of the smartest men in the
- 33:04Speaker 1: world and just an incredible man. With that, I'm going
- 33:07Speaker 1: to pass the microphone over to mister and Neery. So incredible.
- 33:12Speaker 1: It seems that an ordinary name just won't do. Participants
- 33:16Speaker 1: say they're taught to call Ranieri Vanguard. Vanguard. Yes, Vanguard
- 33:20Speaker 1: is the name that we referred to Keith as because
- 33:24Speaker 1: he is a leader of a philosophical movement. The second
- 33:27Speaker 1: highest ranking member of Nexium is a woman named Nancy Saltzman.
- 33:31Speaker 1: Former members say she is known as Prefect so Keith
- 33:35Speaker 1: and Nancy Vanguarden Prefect. At the heart of Nexium training
- 33:39Speaker 1: is something called intensives, which former members say are like
- 33:43Speaker 1: group therapy, running as long as fourteen hours a day
- 33:46Speaker 1: for up to sixteen days. Edmondson says she attended her
- 33:50Speaker 1: first in two thousand and five, when she was twenty seven.
- 33:54Speaker 1: I left my five day, my initial training, as if
- 33:58Speaker 1: a veil had been lifted and I could see things
- 34:01Speaker 1: more clearly in my life. I could communicate better with people.
- 34:04Speaker 1: That sounds fantastic, Yeah, it was great. Classes are invitation
- 34:08Speaker 1: only and they are not cheap. A five day intensive
- 34:12Speaker 1: will run you three thousand dollars, a sixteen day is
- 34:15Speaker 1: seventy five hundred. In promotional videos and materials, it claims
- 34:20Speaker 1: more than sixteen thousand people worldwide have taken Nexium courses.
- 34:25Speaker 1: Many testify to its effectiveness. I learned through the tools
- 34:29Speaker 1: that there was a different way. Sarah was recruited into
- 34:33Speaker 1: the group by filmmaker Mark Vicente. What was it that
- 34:36Speaker 1: was so compelling to you, just a wait it to
- 34:39Speaker 1: break down and understand certain things in my life in
- 34:41Speaker 1: a way I never had before. Ranieri is fiercely protective
- 34:44Speaker 1: of his teachings, requiring participants to sign confidentiality agreements. Everyone
- 34:49Speaker 1: signed it, and if you didn't sign it, you couldn't
- 34:51Speaker 1: take the curriculum. We do know that Nexium has its
- 34:55Speaker 1: own LINGO. Students are taught about overcoming disintegrations to be
- 35:00Speaker 1: become more potent and less suppressive, and avoiding people termed
- 35:05Speaker 1: parasites or luciferians, you know. To Karen Stark, New York Psychologists, Karen,
- 35:12Speaker 1: when you're in so deep in something, I guess it
- 35:14Speaker 1: seems normal to you. It seems normal to you, and
- 35:17Speaker 1: it seems normal to the people around you. And maybe
- 35:22Speaker 1: for people who are vulnerable for the first time, they
- 35:25Speaker 1: get a strong feeling of belonging to something. It always
- 35:28Speaker 1: involves a charismatic leader, so that you're enticed and you
- 35:34Speaker 1: feel like you're getting the special attention. She talks about
- 35:37Speaker 1: Alice and at the fact that he was her mentor
- 35:40Speaker 1: that he mentored her in acting and the skills of acting,
- 35:44Speaker 1: and they made it all sound very legitimate. You took courses,
- 35:48Speaker 1: There was a curriculum. It became extremely enticing to be
- 35:52Speaker 1: a part of this group, particularly because there were so
- 35:56Speaker 1: many people who were celebrities or who had a great
- 35:59Speaker 1: deal of money, and you begin to question, well, estate,
- 36:02Speaker 1: why would they be a member of this group if
- 36:05Speaker 1: it were not legitimate. We are talking about a cult
- 36:09Speaker 1: that started in Albany, New York, Upstate New York, with
- 36:13Speaker 1: connections all over the world. Now it poses as a
- 36:16Speaker 1: self help organization to empower women, and it rides the
- 36:21Speaker 1: coattails of girl power. It ends up in the spotlight
- 36:26Speaker 1: when the New York Times investigation exposed that the women
- 36:30Speaker 1: in the group were referred to as slaves and subjected
- 36:35Speaker 1: to ritual humiliations. They starved themselves. They were forced to
- 36:41Speaker 1: starve themselves to achieve the cult leaders beauty ideal and
- 36:48Speaker 1: to have repeated relations with him. To Frank Parlotto, former
- 36:54Speaker 1: Anxium publicist, founder of Art Voice and the journalists that
- 36:59Speaker 1: broke the story, Frank, how did you become involved with
- 37:04Speaker 1: Nexium as their publicist? But I was originally retained to
- 37:08Speaker 1: work for them by Claire Broffman, the Seagrim's heiress who
- 37:13Speaker 1: funds the entire operation of Nexium. She funded all of
- 37:17Speaker 1: the branding and the cult network, and I was retained
- 37:23Speaker 1: back in two thousand and seven to try to help
- 37:27Speaker 1: them get a better public persona. Even at that time
- 37:33Speaker 1: people in the media were labeling this group as a cult. Well, Frank,
- 37:38Speaker 1: how did you get out of it? Why? I had
- 37:40Speaker 1: uncovered that Keith rugh Neeri, the head of the cult,
- 37:43Speaker 1: he had embezzled or swindled Claire Broffmann out of one
- 37:47Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. And I approached Claire and I told
- 37:52Speaker 1: her that her money was missing and that Keith was
- 37:56Speaker 1: in charge of that money. One hundred million disappeared, and
- 38:00Speaker 1: she didn't really want to accept that finding, which you
- 38:05Speaker 1: know later wound up being proven to be true. She
- 38:09Speaker 1: was contented in swindling herd on of one hundred milks.
- 38:13Speaker 1: Anti Ranieri fired, Wow, I just wonder what jail he's
- 38:17Speaker 1: going to. I can only think about what may happen
- 38:21Speaker 1: to him behind bars. Not that I approve vigilante justice.
- 38:26Speaker 1: Of course, we wait as justice unfals. Nancy Grace crime story,
- 38:31Speaker 1: signing off, good bye friend,