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Cavan Biggio to the Dodgers · The 3-0 Take

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Love that. You're going to do it to me
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right away. What is this for?
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What do we have? Oh, you know what this is for?
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You know what this is for. Tell me if this sounds familiar.
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Jorge Lopez just got DFA D by the Mets.
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Apparently he threw his glove. You know, honestly though, good
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on him dude. Like, you know, somebody's going
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to pick him up, but what a way to just get out of town.
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No shot. Absolutely somebody's going to
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pick him up. Are you kidding me, dude?
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No shot. He wanted to get out of no, he
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wanted to get out of Queen. We have we have guys in this
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league that have abused women. Like he tossed his glove in the
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crowd. Let spare me that.
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Nobody's going to be there. That isn't going to be He's not
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going to pick them up. That combined with the comments,
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no, he's done. Breaking news Breaking news
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Jorge Lopez The Cubs and Jorge Lopez are in agreement on a
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minor league deal, per Will Salmon.
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This is a classic twist of words.
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This is a classic. No, I had to jump, right?
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No, I had to jump. No, I had to jump right into it
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with the breaking news. This is a pretzel job is what it
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is. Pretzeling this into something,
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here's the here's the the known. Did you or did you not say that
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somebody would would pick him up?
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You said no, he's done pause. He said absolutely nobody's
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picking him up. And I said pause, pause.
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We have, we have wife beaters in this league.
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You're telling me some guy threw his glove in the stands and
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nobody's going to pick him up? Pause.
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That's insane. Was a live reaction moments
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after it happened. The next day we come to find out
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that that's not what he actually said.
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And and then the next day we find out all the stuff happening
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with his family. No, no, no, yes.
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And no. I wouldn't have reacted the same
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way if I knew those things. No, no, no.
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Yes. And no.
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He gave, he gave him a chance to double down on it and he doubled
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downed on it. So you know.
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What you doubled down on, you stopped over by the mall today,
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you picked up in Annie Ann's with a little side of cheese cup
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side of mustard and I don't get. Cheese with cinnamon sugar
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pretzels. Pretzel the hell out of this
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thing. Is what you did.
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I called you. On.
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Good call on the cinnamon though.
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For sure. I called you.
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I called you out for saying that nobody would, nobody in the
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league would be willing to take a chance on Jorge Lopez.
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I just had to. I had to address it off
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yourself. I had to address it.
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I had to address it off the top. No, you know what I'm going to
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do? I'm going to Boo you.
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I'm going to Boo you. I'm going to Boo you.
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I. Had to dress it off the top.
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Pretzel, Pretzel. It didn't even like we didn't
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even have to wait till after the All Star game like Pretzel.
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We're it's the middle. It's not we're not even
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officially at the middle of June yet and they've already picked
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him up. So just wanted to address that
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before we got into the rest of what we had to talk about
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tonight. It's ridiculous.
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Just just acknowledge that you were wrong.
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No did he did. A live.
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Another team Did another team pick him up?
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Yes or no? Answer the question Did another
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team pick him up? I refuse.
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I want my lawyer. I'm not answering anything until
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he's present. Facts don't care about your
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feelings, Nate. This is well known.
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The fact is the team picked him up.
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Speaking of a team picking somebody up, Kevin Biggio headed
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to the Dodgers. And look, the big question here
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is can the Dodgers fix Kevin Biggio?
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To which I say. Now fix Jason Hayward.
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Yeah, but like what's, what's a, what's a better comp though?
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Can we look at a like, is it, is it too much of A stretch to say
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Gavin Lux? Can we can we look at Gavin Lux
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as a comp here and say, well, what have they really done with
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Gavin Lux? No Bad comp, Bad comp.
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More so than Jason Hayward. And not just cause.
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Not just cause, not just cause. Gavin Lux is white.
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Yeah, but what are you saying? What are you complete?
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What are you comparing? What are you comparing exactly?
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Their ability to fix Gavin Biccio.
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You look at a guy like Gavin Lux where he's like, oh, there's
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this promise, there's this ceiling.
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Well, that. You're saying higher, but you're
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saying what the Dodgers can do with with, right.
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I got you. Yeah, I'm saying.
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I was saying yeah, I was just saying that there.
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I mean, there's ways of tapping into a guy, there's ways of
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finding it. I, I want to say yes because
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there's like enough. I don't think the confidence has
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dipped that low, you know what I mean?
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Like Gavin Lux is in a tough spot because it's like you were
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thrown into the deep end with a lot of pressure right away, then
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had an injury, then moved away from shortstop because you're
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your arm doesn't work anymore. That's why I thought Jason
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Hayward, because it was like you just didn't, you just didn't tap
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into what you're capable of yet. And maybe that's the case.
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The other thing is that like, you know, he's only ever been
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with the Blue Jays. So maybe there's a new voice
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that can come into the head. You know what I mean?
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A new, I mean, you're surrounded by you're surrounded by guys
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that have already been established.
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Whereas like the Blue Jays, like the rest of your team is like
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guys you came up with like Buchet and Vlad.
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And like those guys have been like, hey, we we've now
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established our name being on this team.
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You came up with us and you still haven't established
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yourself. Not that they're saying that,
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but that's kind of what it feels like.
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So I feel like the Dodgers might be able to do.
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I don't know, man, It's annoying.
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Also, I think this this tells me that I think the Chris Taylor
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thing is all done. I saw that question being raised
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a good deal in the last. Yeah, or I guess it was today.
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Yeah, today, which is a fair question.
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Yeah, Like it was, I don't see the need for a key K and a Chris
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Taylor at the same time, you know what I mean?
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And it seems like key K is, he's obviously younger, he's more
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athletic, seems like he hits a little bit better more
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consistently. Nimbiggio has like, proven that
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he can bounce around a little bit.
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I, I, I could see something happening, not that I'm like
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overly excited about the move. I don't, I don't anybody that
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would have made that move. It just doesn't do anything for
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me. I'm going to, I'm going to, I'll
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be honest, I'm going to be open here.
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I am not overly familiar with like the whole DFA process.
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Is it like DFA goes through waivers, Dodgers say yes and
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then they can talk trade and then that trade has to happen
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within a certain window? Or is it like, if you're the
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Dodgers, why not let him pass all the way through waivers and
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then get him for free? Am I getting that right?
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Like is that the scenario? I mean, if you let them, I mean,
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you run the risk, you run the risk of other.
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But sure, let's be honest. If if waivers are anything like
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any other waivers anywhere else, like whether it's fantasy
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baseball, football, whatever, I'm going to go ahead and assume
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the top teams are at the bottom of those waivers, right?
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Like the worst teams are going to get first dibs, am I right?
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That, that, I don't know. Like, I don't know.
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I don't know how's the case. I don't know if the order
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resets. I don't know if yeah.
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That's what I that's what I'm going to does.
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Does it shift at all? But I, I would assume that it's
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like it's based on record. That's what I would guess.
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And the Dodgers being who they are doing what they're doing
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this year, I would assume they're at the bottom of that
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list. So it's like, were you fearful
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of who's left? But I don't record wise.
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Is it just like the? Yankees.
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And the Phillies. Snagging them, yeah, I, I don't
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know, I mean it if that's how it, if that's how it pans out,
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if that's how the process pans out, then yeah, that would be a
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pretty minimal concern. But it it's also possible that
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it goes a different way and maybe they just wanted.
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I don't. Know so you'd have the wow, the
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Guardians have a better win percentage than the Dodgers.
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Wow, that's crazy. So everything on Guardians,
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Orioles, Phillies, Yankees. Again, this is based on if this
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theory is correct, if that's how that works, which I'm not 100%
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solid on. I need to we just study up.
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We just study, study up on that process.
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But yeah. Probably should have done that
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before, but whatever. It was a trade nonetheless, the
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The Blue Jays, in exchange, are receiving right-handed reliever
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Braden Fisher, who's been both in AA and AAA this year, was a
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fourth round pick in 18, has 30 KS to 15 walks over 19 innings,
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and has posted a 568 ERA. So you can I I would venture to
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assume that the Blue Jays. They're just swap lottery
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tickets, that's all it is. Yeah.
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Hey, we're tired of this guy. We're tired of this guy.
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You down? Let's do it.
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I'll be honest with you, I'm surprised it took him.
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I'm surprised it took him this long.
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I am too. When I saw the numbers, when I
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saw the tweet about like it first happening this morning, I
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saw like a career. What was the career OPS?
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The career OPS was not good. I want to say like 6 something.
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Career OPS 725 this year is it's at 6:14.
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Maybe that's what it was, OK. He's slugging what many would
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consider a a a pretty strong average.
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He's slugging 291 this year. Who knows, man, I, I can't, I
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can't sit here and and say it's stupid or crazy or anything.
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Like you see guys get second chances.
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You see guys that like, look at Nathan Vivaldi, perfect example
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of like the Yankees had him, the Marlins had him and and there it
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just didn't like really click until he moved on.
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And all of a sudden he gets with the Red Sox and it's like
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something clicks and he takes off.
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Like that's that's why these guys kind of bounce around and
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and find later opportunities in their career.
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I think he's young enough to where like he still may be
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coachable. It's in an organization where
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there's no pressure. You're around like solid,
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arguably the most solid veterans you could be around as far as
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hey, like it's all good. We're, you know, pulling the
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rope in the same direction. Just help us pull it and
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whatever you give us is whatever you give us.
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Lottery ticket. Why not?
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I just I'm trying to jog my memory of like seeing something
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in any of his any of his play that's like there's something
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there. Like if you take the last name
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away, are we? Is this still a thing?
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Yeah, What are we really looking at here?
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If you take the name away, yeah, it's a it's a valid question.
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But to your point though, I feel like I've seen or I, I've heard,
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I've read, I've seen more this year than I have.
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I feel like in seasons past or years past, the importance of
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maybe getting linked up with a different coach, whether it be
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in in this case, hitting coach, some other guys, maybe
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defensively there. There are struggles.
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I've heard a lot of arms relocating to a different
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organization, getting hooked up with the a different guy or a
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pitching coach coming to a different team such as Andrew
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Bailey coming to the Red Sox, revitalizing the well there for
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a while kind of tapered as of late, but you just get, you get
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certain, you get certain minds, certain brains in the same room.
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You never know. In a different setting than
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maybe they were in last month and you you might get a a much
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better outcome. So it's, it's possible that
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happens here. But I mean, I, I guess if, if
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there was a team, if you're Kevin Biggio did you would hope
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that this would happen on Yeah, maybe, maybe go out to LA,
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maybe, maybe figure something out out there.
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I, I'm not going to, I'm not going to rule it out.
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I'm not, I'm not writing them off.
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I'm just to to your point though, we haven't seen much to
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really latch onto. Up to this point, but also like
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you got to you got to have the open possibility of like do we
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get news on some type of injury? Is is a key, is a key, K is it
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Chris Taylor? Are one of those guys hurting
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from something and. Well, Max, I know Max Muncie I
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believe is on IO got an oblique issue or something, but.
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Like, is something more serious than we and we haven't heard
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about it yet? I don't know, it's hard to say.
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It's a valid question. Let's switch gears here.
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Paul Skeens, we're about a month into his Major League career.
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Made his debut. That's actually when we were in
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Nashville. That would have been like May
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11th, I think. So, yeah, we're about a month.
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We're about a month into his Major League career.
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Made a start in Saint Louis last night.
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Getting my days mixed up last night through 6th and 1/3 most
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pitches he he's thrown at the Major League level 103 which
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topped. Of that.
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I believe his previous season high of 100, 100, yeah, over the
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Cubs, six in the 3rd innings, 103 pitches.
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But it was the end to his outing that's got people talking, a
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standing ovation on the road in Saint Louis.
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What are your what are, what are we thinking here?
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I I can see it both ways. I'm not quite sure once we're
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done with this conversation which way I'm gonna be leaning.
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But it's interesting. It's really interesting.
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Tuesday's game, right? Today's Wednesday.
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Tuesday night, Yeah, in Saint Louis.
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Six and a third. Five hits, no earned, No walks.
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8 punches. Get to standing.
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Ovation I think it depends on the teams.
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I think it depends on there's certain teams that can do this,
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There's certain teams where you let it slide.
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Mind you, they're in the same division.
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I get that. I get that that that's a.
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That's a very valid point. Yeah, I'd say so.
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I know you came after them for the postseason.
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I still haven't let it go. I still haven't let it go.
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What was that? That was two years ago at this
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point. It was you.
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You hold grudges, you really do. The 2022 postseason, I think it
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was, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I've let that go.
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I don't hold grudges. I'm a I'm a bigger man.
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I'm that big. You absolutely are.
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You're not even going to deny that.
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I, I mean, come on, man. The best fans.
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You're calling yourself the best fans in baseball.
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You're walking out in a postseason game that's not as
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far from over. Come on.
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I'm not going to say that I agreed with you then I agreed
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with you then. I'm not.
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I'm not freaking out and saying that they're the best teams or
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the best fans of baseball, but I think they're good baseball
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fans. I, I, I got a soft spot for, for
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the Midwestern folk, you know what I mean?
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The Midwestern folk, they're just, they're good, Hardy
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people. Real Salt of the earth.
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The salt of the earth. We talked about the Royals, you
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know what I'm saying? We talked about like these
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people, it's just they're out here working their their fingers
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to the bone. They're just good people, OK?
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I think, Clark, we've been doing this.
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We've been doing this podcast a long time and I can't, I can't
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remember the quote exactly and whether it was you or me that
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said it, But I, I specifically remember making a quote graphic
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that talked about the Cardinals fans being the best in baseball.
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So at one point if I said that at one point, I was a firm
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believer in that. But I'm still a little hung up
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on the 2022 postseason that's. All tough and it's it's here's
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the thing, man, it's like they're not getting to witness
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the best baseball. Recently it's been pretty tough
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in the loo. It's been it's been average
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baseball at best. And maybe they're just a little
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hungry for some good quality starting pitching.
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Now, to be fair, our boyfriend of the pod, Miles Michaelis,
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also diced that night. He did like what's not?
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Let's not forget that. I just think certain scenarios,
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OK, It's not a postseason game. Obviously if it's if this
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happens in a postseason game, I'm I'm vomiting, I'm throwing
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up into my mouth regular season game.
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That's a nice quote graphic. Perfect.
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The Cardinals are, they're just in shambles lately.
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And I think if you're a baseball fan, and that's what I'm trying
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to get to, Cardinals fans are not just Cardinals fans.
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And we can't say that about every team.
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I think there are absolutely Yankees fans who are just Yankee
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fans. There are just Houston Astros
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fans who are just Astros fans. You know what I'm saying?
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Like I think Cardinals fans are more baseball fans than not.
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So getting to witness a one one that dices and is in the middle
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of this hype train is trending. Whatever, whatever the buzzwords
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you want to use, I kind of get it.
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I kind of get it. Yeah, I mean, I'm trying really
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hard to separate the fact that it's Paul Skeens from this
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situation. But I, I, I, you can't ignore
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the fact that it's Paul Skeens because in my you can't.
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Because in my head I'm trying to go, well, if this was any other
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guy that dies or the Cardinals fans doing this, but it's
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purely, it's purely because it's Paul Skeens.
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I get it. But still, even though it's Paul
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Skeens, it's an interdivision starting pitcher walking off the
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field. And I've got Cardinals fans
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tipping their caps. They they cut to one guy.
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I've watched the video. They they cut to one guy.
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He's tipping his cap. I'm like, buddy, do you see what
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logos on your hat? It is a tough look.
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I I for sure understand that they're 7 1/2 games back man.
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It's just. I, I look less into their, their
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struggles right now and more into just the act of, of giving
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a guy standing ovation. Like to me, I don't care if
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they're at the bottom of the division.
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I don't care if they're leading the division.
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It's just like. I think it's a part of the
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equation because the people that are going to those games right
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now are not rooting for their team to go go take this Pennant.
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You know what I'm saying? I think those are realistic fans
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who are also baseball fans and they're looking at an
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opportunity. Like, tell me you wouldn't be
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excited if you lived in the loo. You're 7 1/2 games back, you're
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at the bottom of the division and your team sucks, your
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manager sucks. Your superstars are getting
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older by the day. And you're like, you know what,
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I want to go to a game. It's Tuesday night.
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Who's pitching skeins is here. I'm absolutely going.
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That's the point I'm trying to put myself in the OK as a Red
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Sox fan. Like what would it would have to
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be somebody within division rule the Yankees out 'cause we're not
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talking like Cardinals, Cubs here.
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This is, this is Cardinals Pirates, right?
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So it would be it'd be like if the I mean the the the 1st and
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easiest thing that comes to mind for me is like if Grayson
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Rodriguez the OS come to town. Grayson Rodriguez who had a fair
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amount of hype himself. Not nearly the the same level,
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but I don't. Think it's a good comp.
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I don't think it's a good. Who, who else can you can you
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put in that situation? It has to be a team that's been
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a punching bag forever. And it's like, it's almost like
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the Cardinals fans can look at the Pirates and be like, you
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haven't been a threat in a long time.
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I'm going to throw you a bone with this standing out.
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I don't think that that's the math that they're doing in their
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head as they're standing up, tipping their cap.
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But I think a comp would have to be like like a if you're a
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Phillies fan and you and you see a Marlin get drafted 11 and he's
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a superstar in the making and you get to see a start from him.
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You know what I'm saying? It's like you've never been a
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threat to us. We're OK giving you this.
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I get it. And look, I I have enough
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self-awareness here to recognize I'm probably getting a little
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bit more worked up over this than I should be, but it's.
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I think there's you're not alone.
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There's a lot of people that are freaking out.
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About it no, you're right and it but it's it's really just I I
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think a broader conversation that needs to needs to be taking
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place right now and it's like, are there no competitive bones
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in the bodies of baseball people anymore?
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Are players and fans alike where it's like come on man, I get
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it's Paul Skeens but channel the appreciation else like in a in a
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different manner in a different fashion.
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Like giving the guy standing O as he's walking off your field.
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It just it, it seems a little odd, that's all.
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I'm not. I get that.
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I don't hate Cardinals fans because of it.
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I just think the ACT in and of itself is a little odd, that's
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all. I don't fully disagree, I'm just
25:17
not ready to to burn it down if I.
25:21
If I was at that game not having a dog in the fight, I'm
25:25
absolutely I'm going, this is fantastic baseball that I just
25:29
watched for 6th and a third. I'm absolutely going to.
25:33
But you have literal Cardinals fans tipping their Cardinal caps
25:38
birds on bat. Look, man, I don't, I just don't
25:40
think there's a lot going on in loo right now.
25:43
I just don't think it, you know, which is which Is the loos any
25:46
good? Have the balls been bad for a
25:48
while? They don't.
25:49
They haven't had the Rams for years now they're just a
25:52
miserable salt Carrie Underwood, salt of the earth folk.
25:56
You know what I mean? Like they're.
25:58
Oh no, that's Nashville. What am I thinking?
25:59
What am I saying? Yeah, yeah.
26:01
She's who's that guy? I don't even know if the guy's
26:03
in the league anymore. The guy she's married to, he's
26:05
with the Predators, not the Blues.
26:06
See, they don't even have Carrie Underwood.
26:11
No, but I guess I guess that's my point, though.
26:12
It's like there's not much going on in the loo, but here come the
26:16
Pirates of all teams, and they're going to be what gives
26:21
us the Entertainment Tonight. It's just it's, it's funny.
26:24
Like it's odd, it's funny. And depending upon who you root
26:28
for, could be a little sad. I don't, That's all I'm saying.
26:31
I get it. I'm with you.
26:33
That's all I'm saying. 20 questions oh man, Active or
26:43
retired? Retired Hall of Fame or no Hall
26:46
of Fame. No Hall of Fame.
26:49
I hate these outfielder, infielder, outfielder retired.
26:56
Not Hall of Fame outfielder, MVP or no MVP.
27:01
No MVP. Righty or lefty?
27:06
Righty? Both.
27:08
No or yeah. Yeah, both throw right and hit
27:11
yeah. Retired.
27:13
Not Hall of Fame right fielder, centre fielder, left fielder.
27:23
Left fielder. More than two All Star
27:37
appearances. Yes, 12.
27:42
Actually. 12 All Star appearances Left fielder right
27:48
right retired. Not Hall of Fame.
27:53
You've you've reached your time limit, so the next question that
27:56
you ask has to actually be your guess.
28:03
Just a hint, just a tip. You got to start.
28:06
You start you. You have to start identifying
28:08
teams. Quickly, I think I do.
28:10
I think I do. I think I do.
28:11
I think. You're less about righty lefty
28:14
get get thinking on the teams a little bit.
28:17
K12 time All Star out of left field.
28:23
Not a Hall of Famer though. This is a mess.
28:31
Maybe think, you know what, I'm feeling a little generous, maybe
28:35
think about that possible correlation a little bit, those
28:37
things that you just said, why would that maybe be the case?
28:48
Possibly roids? Is that what you're saying I.
28:54
I just gave you a hint. Your next your next guess has to
28:57
be or your the next thing that you propose has to be an answer
29:06
I. Have a name?
29:07
I just don't think, oh, I got, I got two names, Manny, Manny
29:24
Ramirez. Hey, that was it.
29:27
Well done. Thank you.
29:28
Well done. I I think you gave me some
29:30
bones. See if there's you single
29:32
handedly got there because of my Roy's correlation.
29:34
Sure did. Sure did.
29:35
But what was the? Other name you had in mind.
29:38
Soriano, Alfonso Soriano but. OK.
29:41
Like the second base was a lot in the picture too so.
29:44
Yeah, yeah. But yeah.
29:47
How many? I wonder how many All Star
29:49
appearances he had. Yeah, that was the other one.
29:52
Too, I didn't get seven. That's that's just I don't think
29:56
I realized he had that many wow. A.
29:57
Lot of clubs I just I I had AI had a soft spot in my heart for
30:01
Alfonso. I like absolutely.
30:04
Yeah, he's a big. Niece guy, he got the he got
30:08
some rough treatment getting thrown in the outfield when when
30:12
it wasn't the move, you know. Yeah, yeah.
30:15
With like no reason. I don't think there was no there
30:18
wasn't like any defensive analytics back then.
30:20
It was just like we're putting you on the left and no one was
30:25
down to put him back at second after just really weird.
30:28
Anyhow, Manny my least. Favorite player, grown up.
30:33
Love it. Well, it should have been Ortiz
30:35
without question, but I'm not gonna tell you who you're the.
30:37
Same player should be it was Manny.
30:40
David Ortiz bugged me, but it was Manny.
30:44
It was Manny. That's putting that lightly.
30:50
Ortiz bugged you. He I would venture to say he
30:53
probably brought you to near tears on multiple occasions.
30:56
There's probably a few tears, There's probably a few that's
30:58
wow, that's yeah. The walk off against very
31:02
lightly was, yeah, that one hurt.
31:07
There's been a lot of moments. Unreal.
31:12
Speaking of being hurt, JT Realmuto placed on the 10 day IL
31:19
knee surgery to remove cartilage.
31:22
I am so glad I've never had such a surgery because that does not
31:26
sound fun whatsoever. Knees, man, I'm telling you, I'm
31:32
telling you. I I had AI had a superstition
31:37
when I was playing that when there was when when it was when
31:41
I was scrolling or something. I see a video and you
31:43
immediately know that it's like an injury related video.
31:46
Wouldn't watch it. If I'm watching a sporting event
31:49
live and they go to replay to show a guy with living room, I
31:53
leave the room. Fortunately I never had any
31:56
major injuries. I'm not going to say that was
31:58
the sole reason, but I'm not. I watched those.
32:01
I watched those a lot and I, I blew my knee out.
32:03
So, you know, there's not not saying that, but maybe we're
32:10
saying that. Not, not not saying that, but
32:14
the knee man, especially as a catcher, this, this has to suck.
32:18
I think he's going to miss. Saw four to six weeks.
32:24
Yeah, right. I saw.
32:25
Yeah, a month plus. I don't understand the IL thing.
32:28
What how is he allowed to be on the 10 day?
32:32
Is that just for now? Is that until you move someone
32:34
else like from the 60 day like or someone from the 15 to the
32:38
60? Someone from the 60 back active?
32:42
I guess drop someone from the 40 man I don't understand it the.
32:45
IL is very fascinating. If you look at there was one guy
32:53
on here recently that I saw where I'm like, don't know why
32:56
you're on the 10 day. You're literally out for the
32:58
season. And it had been like a minute.
33:01
Oh, Spencer Strider, he's on the 15 day IL.
33:03
What is that about? How does that work?
33:06
Right? I'm not going to pretend to have
33:08
a a deep understanding of how the 15 to 1660 day IL process
33:13
works. But I don't know if you're in
33:14
the chat and you know, please inform us 'cause it confuses me.
33:18
Yeah, it seems to me that Spencer Strider maybe shouldn't
33:21
be on the 15 day aisle. Christian Javier, 15 day aisle I
33:24
kind of get because it's a little fret a little more fresh.
33:27
But Spencer Strider, it's. I think we know.
33:30
I think we know. I think we know.
33:34
But yeah, this is this is a blow for the Phillies.
33:36
Fortunately, they got enough of a cushion at this point as we
33:40
approach the middle of June to where they can, they can they
33:44
can tread water if they need to. I mean, fortunately they're
33:46
playing the Sox and I mean, let's talk about a, a series to
33:53
to get that going. Hold on.
33:56
Well, I spoke too soon. It was 4, nothing Phillies and
33:58
now it's eight to four Red Sox. Not sure how or when that
34:03
happened. Threw up a snowman real fast.
34:08
All I have to say though, they're they're OK, they're in a
34:13
position where they can, they can get by with, with, with
34:16
stubs. I saw he was playing through
34:20
some stuff. Yeah, like he's had this for a
34:22
little bit. Well, I mean, I feel like as a
34:24
catcher, you just by default that's your, I feel like that's
34:27
your standard state, your default state is that you're
34:31
playing through something. And especially if it's knee
34:34
related, I would venture to say that even if there was a play
34:40
that took place that was the clear cause of said entry, I'm
34:46
sure that the state of these guys knees leading up to those
34:49
plays probably doesn't help their case or help their
34:53
situation in that regard. They're probably a little more
34:55
prone to having an injury like that take place.
34:59
So it sucks for him, but honestly, for a knee surgery
35:02
only missing four to six weeks, that's that's got to be like
35:07
best case scenario, no. I remember when I was catching
35:11
in like Little League and middle school and stuff, and and then
35:16
you got to that age where you're like, knee savers were no longer
35:19
acceptable. Why?
35:27
Like yeah, why? Why did we do that?
35:29
Why did? Why did?
35:30
Buster Posey was like, screw you guys, I'm wearing these like,
35:35
what's the big deal? I.
35:37
Don't, I mean, I never, I never caught at a high level.
35:40
I caught when I was like 10 and I'm like, these are incredible.
35:43
These are. The move?
35:44
And like, why would we get rid of these?
35:45
Why is this less manly than putting a knee down?
35:49
Why is that accepted? We're just going to work on
35:52
framing. No, you're not.
35:53
You're trying to save your knees, dude.
35:57
Yeah. The thing that these wonderful
35:59
pillows literally do? They're delightful.
36:03
They're just delightful. Not saying you need to like
36:05
there's a guy on like you still, you know, stick the butt up a
36:09
little bit and and not use them, but like, I don't know, whatever
36:15
this is, I think this is a tough blow.
36:17
I this injury is not going to make me overreact.
36:30
I just don't see it with the Phillies.
36:35
And I know that's like an unpopular opinion and and I know
36:38
you're going to be confused. You're saying like you don't see
36:41
the path forward for this team or they just don't have the IT
36:46
factor. They're just all, they're just
36:52
at like the very end of their peak, like their like their
36:56
core. And like, I know that like Alec
37:00
Boehm is, is finally coming onto the scene.
37:04
I think we know what Bryson Stott is.
37:07
I think we know. I don't think.
37:09
We do. I think we know.
37:11
I don't. He took a huge, he's taking a
37:13
huge step forward this. Year, I think he's good.
37:16
I don't think he's ever going to be a league leader, All Star
37:24
leader kind of guy. I I just don't see that.
37:27
Bryson Stian is having a fantastic year and he's the when
37:31
Trey comes back, he's going to be the worst infielder in the
37:33
infield. He's still good, man.
37:35
He's still good. I just like Nick Castellanos.
37:39
What is happening there? Kyle Schwarber is Kyle
37:42
Schwarber. And like, yeah, he looks like he
37:44
slimmed down a little bit, but I, I'm trying to see the depth
37:50
and it just it, this gives me like like 2010 to 2013 Yankee
38:04
vibes where it was like this group of like older veterans
38:10
that is, is like you, you're trying to squeeze some stuff out
38:14
of him. And, and it's hard to say that
38:15
because like Bryce Harper's Bryce Harper, but I don't think
38:19
anyone can sit here and say Bryce Harper's the top five
38:22
player in the league. I can name five more guys.
38:27
I can absolutely name five guys that I would take over Bryce.
38:32
We know the issues with Kyle Schwarber, Nick Castellanos is a
38:36
problem. Trey Turner, as much as I love
38:39
Trey Turner, when we start having health on the on the
38:42
lower half and speed is your game, that's going to be a
38:46
problem. I I just the pitching has been
38:52
incredible. I think that's the reason
38:55
they're in this position. But like as these older guys
39:00
start to get nicked up and bruised, I don't know if I'm
39:04
sitting here on on on June 12th and saying I'm super comfortable
39:10
with where the Phillies are. But I I guess my question though
39:15
is, well, also for the record, they have their believe they're
39:27
in the top five in all of baseball and runs scored.
39:29
So it's not just their pitching. I'm not.
39:33
Saying, I'm not saying it's a, it's, it's bad offense by any
39:36
means. No, but I, I guess what I'm
39:38
asking is you've been high on the Phillies, the last Phillies
39:46
vibes. No, no, no, no, no.
39:47
I'm saying just like generally speaking, you've been like on
39:51
board with the Phillies the last couple years and they were, you
39:57
could argue lesser of a team in years past because they didn't.
40:01
I, in my opinion at least, I don't think that they were
40:04
getting the quality pitching that they're getting in 2024 in
40:09
say 2022-2023. And the offense is still going
40:13
to be the offense despite maybe them being a year older and, and
40:19
maybe one or two of those guys hitting a little bit of a, a, a
40:22
plateau or even falling off a little bit.
40:25
Yeah. You're still getting Bryce,
40:27
Trey. When Trey comes back, you're
40:28
going to get Trey. How do you get?
40:31
All the Trey, do you get like full, full on prime tray?
40:36
I'm just like, I'm not, I'm not able to sit here and just be
40:39
comfortably saying you're going to be you're going to be missing
40:42
your catcher and what I would assume is a pretty big clubhouse
40:46
leader for six weeks and just say like, everything's going to
40:52
be fine. What I'm saying is like the
40:55
slack needs to be picked up and and who is picking up that
40:59
slack? Are those guys capable of
41:02
picking up that slack? Brandon Marsh got off to a hot
41:06
start great, but we've seen enough of his career to be like
41:13
this is probably as good as it gets.
41:15
I think he's on the aisle too. Right.
41:17
It's, it's just, it's a lot of names that are definitely post
41:23
30 year old vets. I know.
41:26
But I guess I guess what I'm saying, it's no different than
41:29
what we've seen the last two years, but they're pitching is
41:31
better. So, like, why all of a sudden
41:33
now are we dialing it back on the Phillies as one of the best
41:37
teams in baseball, if not the best team in baseball?
41:39
I'm just saying like, I, I love. I love the vibe of Philly.
41:42
I love, I love what the the fans have been.
41:45
I love the energy in the stadium.
41:47
I love the mentality in the clubhouse.
41:49
I love Rob Thompson. Trust me, I like, I love this
41:52
team. I love everything that's
41:53
happening with this team. But for me to just sit here and
41:59
be like they're absolutely going to roll through teams in the
42:02
postseason and and dominate their way to the World Series,
42:08
I'm struggling to see that unless these names can pick up
42:13
the slack. But if we're slowly just
42:15
dropping these names off and we're at the point of all the
42:19
weight is on B Harp, Boehm and Schwarber, it's like, I don't
42:24
know if I have that kind of faith.
42:26
But Trey's almost back too, so you can include him into that.
42:29
Group I if you get normal Trey which again lower half missed
42:35
time, assume it's going to take another 150 ABS for you to get
42:40
back into the swing of things. Yeah.
42:43
But like Fast forward to the end of of J TS IL stint, you get JT
42:49
back at that point Trey will have been back.
42:51
Every piece that you get back healthy and then in a better and
42:55
in better shape, that's less that each guy has to, that's
42:59
less of the load that each guy has to shoulder.
43:02
I hear you. I get what you're saying and
43:04
your argument is that that buffer it looks good and and
43:07
that's this is a great time for. If it's to happen, this is the
43:11
time for it. Right.
43:12
And your, your point, your point may end up being valid like we
43:16
may see a, a, a sharper fall off from some of these guys in the
43:19
line up as we hit the dog days. And maybe I would anticipate.
43:23
But going back to my original point, like you just said,
43:25
they're at a place at this point of the season where they can
43:28
afford that if it so happens. I just, I, yeah, I, I think for
43:32
a Philly fan to sit here and say they're going to have a 10 1/2
43:37
game cushion when they win this division, I don't agree.
43:43
I don't agree. I.
43:44
Don't know. I mean, the Braves are.
43:47
The Braves don't. Slop.
43:49
Right now they don't. Look good, they don't look right
43:51
then. I agree there.
43:53
Offensively, they rank I think like in the the bottom 5 in
43:59
almost every major category. I don't know if it's on the
44:01
season or like the last month, month and a half, but they have
44:06
plummeted offensively. Here's a name for you just off
44:10
the top. Two names now.
44:14
One name, one name. Jacob Stallings with the
44:22
Rockies? Why not?
44:30
Like maybe it's like a death piece, but I think they're fine
44:32
rolling stubs. Who's the other guy?
44:35
Who they? I don't even know.
44:38
I don't know who their third guy is.
44:41
And why are they fine with stubs?
44:43
Is stubs anything? I mean, what is Stalin's?
44:49
How much more is Stalin's going to offer you?
44:52
Stalin was an All Star a couple years ago with the Pirates.
44:54
Rafael Marshawn is their third guy.
45:03
Sub's hitting 179 with a 466 OPS.
45:12
I'm not saying Jacob Stallings is a world beater by any means,
45:15
but he's capable of a little bit more I guess. 295 three home
45:23
rounds, got an 823 OPS. I'm seeing 289, but still that I
45:29
mean, yeah. You know the Rockies aren't
45:32
doing anything. Yeah, Yeah.
45:39
I just don't know for that. Yeah.
45:40
I just don't know for that timetable if it's, if they're
45:43
interested, if it's needed doing all that.
45:48
Yeah, yeah. I don't know.
45:51
MLB Network was like showing like throwback days of Schwarber
45:55
and Bryce Harper catching. And they were like, oh, never
45:59
know. And I'm like what?
46:01
Put Schwerber behind a dish, bro.
46:06
He can. He can hold his own.
46:07
He can do it. Trade for Kenley Jensen put him
46:10
back there. Yeah, hey, people forget, man.
46:13
People forget Team Netherlands, baby, they go, why would you put
46:18
Kenley Jensen behind the plate? Look it up.
46:20
A lot of people don't even know. A lot of people don't even know.
46:25
Speaking of not knowing this anonymous poll put out by The
46:30
Athletic, look at that. Look at that transition.
46:34
That's spotless. Thank you.
46:36
Thank you. They put out the poll earlier
46:40
this week. You and I were talking about it.
46:42
I think I. Eat this stuff up.
46:45
Oh, yes. Oh.
46:46
Yeah, Oh yeah. In a in a day and age where
46:49
people are, I feel like are less inclined to put their name to
46:53
what they say, you know they're going to let it eat when under
47:00
the cover of anonymity. I love this.
47:05
But you and I were talking and I think in years past, the only
47:08
real highlight that has come from these articles is like, oh,
47:13
who do who do people think are the is the most overrated
47:16
player? That's usually the talking
47:17
point, but there. And I sent you, I sent you the
47:20
article and I said, man, there's some, I'm glad I looked beyond
47:24
just the, the overrated conversation 'cause that was
47:27
floating around on social because Juan Soto, I believe was
47:31
had received a vote and that's what was what everybody was
47:33
talking about. But I'm glad I, I read through
47:37
the rest because I sent it to you and I was like, dude,
47:38
there's some like, there's some really good stuff in here.
47:41
There's some like some answers, some some explanations to the
47:47
answers. It's, well, I mean, I say it's
47:49
good stuff. Depending upon who you're a fan
47:51
of, it may rub you the wrong way, but it's, it's fascinating
47:54
on the least. But again, they put out a poll
47:57
recently that was derived from the survey that they that they
48:08
produced in the spring or that they they ran the survey that
48:12
they ran over the spring. I guess it was during spring
48:14
training when it's easier to get those guys they interviewed.
48:21
I want to make sure I got the numbers here right.
48:22
They interviewed more than 100 players, almost evenly split
48:26
between the AL and NL across 18 teams, Granted them anonymity to
48:33
get their unfiltered takes on some of the biggest and most
48:36
controversial storylines in baseball.
48:38
That's according to the New York Times.
48:44
I figured we could just run through this briefly and, and
48:47
just, and just talk a little bit more in depth about some of
48:50
these questions because like I said, the one that was getting
48:52
talked about the most was who's the most overrated?
48:54
But again, as I mentioned, there's some interesting
48:57
questions in here. They the the first question,
49:01
who's the best player in baseball?
49:03
As you would guess, majority voted Shohei Otani, I think, I
49:08
think Acuna received some votes and Judge was on there as well.
49:12
Let me pull up these answers. So I'm getting them right.
49:16
Judge was on there as well. And you go, you may wonder,
49:18
well, like why is why is Judge beneath Ohtani?
49:22
It's like, well, this was in the spring and this is for Judge. 20
49:28
is pretty high too. We got 26% of the vote. 26.5%
49:33
The second question who is the most overrated player?
49:37
This one was the one that was interesting and it wasn't even
49:41
the fact that Soto received a vote or it it wasn't only that
49:47
Soto received vote, it was some of the other names that were on
49:49
there that was that that were raising some eyebrows.
49:54
I will say like Emmanuel Klaus say received a vote Rafael
50:01
Devers received a vote. Spencer Strider received a vote,
50:08
which Yoshinobu Yamamoto received a vote, which again, if
50:13
this is like pre sample side, like giving him a chance to to
50:18
build a resume, then I could understand maybe why Yamamoto
50:22
maybe got a vote. But even then he was wasn't he
50:25
like a three time Sai Young like the Japanese equivalent of a Sai
50:29
Young winner? He won an MVP too.
50:31
Like whatever, whatever their top award, their top honor is
50:35
he? I think he won it like three
50:36
times. So not quite sure why why that
50:40
was on there. Anthony Rendon being second on
50:42
that list, I can certainly understand that adds up.
50:46
That adds up. Honestly, Correa adds up.
50:48
Tim Anderson adds up. Did I mention Jazz being the
50:51
first answer? For those who haven't seen the
50:53
poll, Jazz was at the top. By like a big margin to 20% of
50:57
the votes. Rendon is only at 10%.
51:00
Yeah, half of the 2nd place. So Correa, Tim Anderson, Jack
51:04
Flaherty, Peter honestly, I don't I don't hate like at the
51:11
risk of maybe rubbing some people the wrong way, I don't
51:14
hate the names that are on this list.
51:16
Like it I could, I could see the path for each one of these guys
51:20
could all the that that is that is the the the bar graph answers
51:26
the ones that that were in the at the bottom in the fine print
51:29
that received one vote. That's where I I I had a little
51:33
bit of a. Flirty my boy Jack.
51:35
Flirty Just shoving everybody this year.
51:38
Just proving everybody wrong. Yeah, but what's great, De La
51:40
Cruz, if this was taken in the spring training, like an
51:46
unnecessary ricochet, I feel like for my boy Jack, like,
51:51
like, I don't think he's on anyone's radar before this
51:54
season. No, no, Like no one's rating him
51:57
that high. Well, it said the the article
52:01
said this spring over the over the course of 2 1/2 months.
52:04
So I don't know if that means leading up to opening day or if
52:07
that includes part of the regular season.
52:10
I just assumed it. I just assumed it was for, it
52:13
included spring training 'cause it's easier to, you know, with
52:16
media and those guys, it's much easier to get your material and
52:20
spring training. That's why I assumed.
52:22
So I don't know how much of the season had already happened at
52:25
the time of the of this survey. Yeah, to be fair, there's only
52:29
59 votes on this specific one of the overrated players Which.
52:34
Was worth noting that not as many guys wanted to to vote on
52:39
this because I don't think that they wanted to they they didn't
52:43
want to talk talk poorly about any of their.
52:48
It's a brotherhood in certain ways, you know?
52:50
Yeah. The one, what was the quote That
52:54
was, it was getting tossed around on Soto about it being
53:01
like a spike pick or something. You know what I'm talking about.
53:07
What? About Soto what?
53:11
Do you mean quote? There's an.
53:15
Article yeah it said could. In regards to whoever picks
53:20
Soto, the person said could be a spike pick.
53:22
To be honest I feel like all he does is walk and hit singles and
53:25
doesn't hit for power like he's portrayed.
53:27
Also not a good fielder. I think we can relax on that.
53:33
The guy's a lock for the Hall of Fame, whatever that is.
53:38
That sounds awfully Jelly. Just a whole lot of jealousy
53:41
there. This one This one was a an
53:47
interesting one I thought that they put out.
53:49
Putting aside their stats and going solely on vibes, who do
53:52
you want most on your team? I like that one.
53:56
And in parentheses it said must be someone the player's not
53:58
friends with doesn't know well. Trying to find that one where to
54:04
go? Mookie Betts received the top
54:12
the top number of votes. He was at 12.6%.
54:15
Shohei was at 6.3. Akuni was 4.2, Bryce was 4.2,
54:21
Judge 4.2, Schwarber 4.2, Trout 3.1.
54:25
I don't, I didn't. I thought it was an interesting
54:29
question, but I'm not I wasn't thrilled with the responses.
54:32
I'm like, OK, are we just picking like the front, the MVP
54:35
front runners and like previous, previous winners that like give
54:39
me it said the question was going solely on vibes.
54:43
So like for you, if if you were in the clubhouse, like who?
54:46
Who is that for you? Vibes wise, I mean like, I, I
54:58
think Kiki's probably a great pick.
55:04
I, I think I, I mean Mookie's obviously a great pick.
55:11
Liam Hendricks I saw got a vote like.
55:14
I love that pick. Yeah, I I would friend of the
55:16
pod, I would probably lean that way.
55:19
Freddy, I feel like would be, you know, just guys that like I
55:23
I get because Mookie just doesn't ever seem to get down.
55:28
The guy's just so positive and he's just, he's like also super
55:34
professional without being like a hardo at the same time, you
55:38
know what I mean? He's got that perfect mix.
55:41
He's got he's got a brand to uphold.
55:44
I understand Mookie. I don't know if I fully
55:46
understand the like show. Hey, it's just like what vibe do
55:49
you give off? Like am I missing something
55:51
here? Like do you?
55:53
You don't give me much you. I just see like a like.
55:57
You're super respectful, like there's, but you're just like,
56:01
what? What are you providing?
56:03
With, I mean, I like I do see clips of him like, you know,
56:08
the, the whole like the classic take a bubble gut, like a bubble
56:12
gum chewed up bubble and and stick it on a guy's hat.
56:15
Like he's done stuff like that And he, he goofed around with
56:18
guys in the like during the game and stuff.
56:20
So I get that. But to your point, I, I, I don't
56:23
know if I'd had, what was it? What did I say?
56:25
He was at two. Like I don't know if I'm putting
56:27
him at 2:00. Lance Lynn being on this list is
56:30
pretty surprising. That's got to be a thing where
56:33
it's like. Like a bulldog, you need one of
56:35
those guys that's like, I want you on my team because no one's
56:38
going to, no one's going to do anything.
56:40
Like if we're going into retired, like CC, like you know
56:43
what I mean? Like no one's coming after you
56:46
like you're that like Big Bear so.
56:49
What's kind of like the thing with Mookie that I, I'm, I've
56:51
never been a huge fan of is because he has this like, image
56:54
to protect. Like there's no edge.
56:58
Like literally and physically. Like, I don't think Mookie's
57:00
trying to mess up that face. You know, he's out there in
57:02
Hollywood now. He ain't trying to mess that up.
57:05
He's. And watching him for the years
57:08
that I did, he was never going to be the guy at the top step.
57:11
He was never going to be the first out to a scuffle.
57:15
Yeah, and, and that's hard. That's hard for me if I'm
57:19
bringing in a guy for like vibes and to be like a teammate that I
57:22
want alongside me. I would say, I mean, I Rizzo, if
57:26
we're just going, yeah, I think Rizzo's a good pick too.
57:29
Like the guy just has fun, you know?
57:32
I like Rizzo and Freddie are like some, some names to me.
57:41
Yeah, like a yeah, like Freddy's like a superstar, but like,
57:45
doesn't big league anybody it seems, you know?
57:51
Yeah, I I love Liam as a pig though.
57:54
That's Liam. That's Liam's very, very
57:57
underrated. Liam's like one of the one of my
58:00
favorite people I've ever met. Like that guy's awesome.
58:04
That guy's super cool. There was a question, a question
58:10
about is that evaluate this statement.
58:12
Anthony Rendon was right. This season is too long.
58:17
I love this 68% saying no. I wonder what that number is if
58:27
you just take Anthony Rendon out of it and if you just say is the
58:33
season too long? You know what I mean?
58:38
Yeah, yeah. But going back to the whole like
58:42
spite thing, like I, I would venture to say that they see the
58:45
name Anthony Rendon. That's what I'm saying.
58:47
I'm going to disagree with him, so remove that.
58:51
I wonder what the numbers would be if it's just like, is a
58:53
season too long? Some of the responses were funny
58:56
though. It's like, I've never been a
59:00
position player so I can't comment on how they feel after
59:03
an entire season, but 32 plus starts is perfect.
59:06
Somebody said somebody said F that I get paid more.
59:12
Somebody said we, which I would love to know who said this, but
59:15
somebody said we've been doing this for 150 years.
59:17
Anyone who complaints is soft. Oh yes dude, like tell me who
59:23
said that. That's great.
59:27
Some of the responses that said yes to be fair, like I yes, I
59:32
disagree. Like, I think as a fan, at least
59:36
from, from my, from my point of view, I, I love the fact that
59:38
it's 162 and I think some people alluded to that, like where it
59:42
separates us from the rest of the sports, which I agree with.
59:46
But I, I was able to at least empathize with some of the
59:49
responses for yes, because there was a logic provided.
59:55
Like somebody said, I think maybe we could use like 15 fewer
59:58
games and start camp later. Spring training is too long.
1:00:04
Somebody said he's right. I think cut out like 10 games,
1:00:07
that's all, Nothing crazy. I think September gets a little
1:00:09
washy at the end, which I can't maybe not like a maybe not the
1:00:13
end of September, but like it does reach that point in like
1:00:16
late August, September where it's like, well, OK, what are we
1:00:20
really doing here? We, we don't need this.
1:00:25
So yeah, like I, I, I appreciated the responses for
1:00:27
both, even though I I do disagree.
1:00:30
One of the questions was which team would you sign with if
1:00:33
contracts, state taxes and rosters were not a factor.
1:00:36
I'd love that question. What's left?
1:00:40
Are you just choosing like fanbase and.
1:00:44
Yeah, like literally anything else.
1:00:46
Like. In Jersey, I guess.
1:00:48
City uniforms, the historical side of things like the the
1:00:56
richness of the team's history. Yeah, fans Braves Braves leading
1:01:05
it at 12% of the votes You. Want to go ahead and tell me
1:01:08
who's second on that list? Yeah, I mean, the Red Sox makes
1:01:12
sense. Yeah, that's fine.
1:01:15
I just wanted you to say it, that's all.
1:01:16
Yeah, just wanted you to say it. 9.3% for the Sox.
1:01:20
Dodgers coming into 8.1. Rangers at 8.1, Yankees at 6.9,
1:01:24
Cubs at 6.9. The I will say of all of those
1:01:29
teams. Like Arizona Diamondbacks really
1:01:31
surprised me is that has that has to be like proximity to
1:01:35
spring training, You know what I mean?
1:01:37
Probably, yeah, maybe some golf fans in there.
1:01:40
I don't. Yeah, yeah, no.
1:01:42
But I was going to say like if you, you make the cut off at the
1:01:46
Cubs, who are at 6.9, the Padres are below them at 5.8.
1:01:50
But if you if you go Braves, Red Sox, Dodgers, Rangers, Yankees,
1:01:54
Cubs, one of those to me doesn't really belong and it's the
1:01:59
Rangers. It's the Rangers.
1:02:01
If if you're looking at that list, you the common denominator
1:02:04
there is like, OK, we're talking about like some pretty
1:02:06
historical franchises that have seen six, I mean depending upon
1:02:12
how you want to characterize it, have seen success in a variety
1:02:17
of ways. You know what?
1:02:20
You know what this could be? No, because like the Red Soxes
1:02:23
are a mess. I was going to say like front
1:02:24
office. Yeah, you know what I mean.
1:02:29
Yeah. I mean, the common denominator
1:02:30
just seems like they went the like these, these votes went the
1:02:35
historical route and the the Rangers kind of just stand out a
1:02:38
little bit to me there. I agree.
1:02:39
I agree. I think there were some other
1:02:44
questions, but they were more like player targeted.
1:02:49
Oh, I don't want it. Are you in a Are you in favor or
1:02:52
opposed to MLB adopting the salary cap and floor system used
1:02:58
in other major sports leagues? 71% are opposed to that 71 Yeah.
1:03:10
These boys are just trying to get their bags.
1:03:12
Bro Oh for sure dude, for sure. The the one on the Olympics I
1:03:18
thought was interesting and and we can kind of I guess close it
1:03:21
out with that. But the question was should MLB
1:03:22
shut down mid season so players can participate in the 2028
1:03:26
Summer Olympics in LA? It's actually a close vote,
1:03:30
Yeah, 90 guys voted on it. Then it's a 53 to to 46 and
1:03:35
change vote. Yeah, somebody in the favour of
1:03:40
no do not want to shut it down. Majority want no.
1:03:44
Majority want no a mid season shutdown's pretty crazy.
1:03:49
Yeah, somebody, somebody that voted yes.
1:03:51
And if there's a way they could get rid of the All Star game
1:03:54
that year, that would be pretty cool.
1:03:55
It's a unique opportunity and now that baseball is back in the
1:03:59
Olympics, I feel like guys would want to do it.
1:04:01
I wouldn't hate that either, to be honest with you.
1:04:03
You would have to get rid of the.
1:04:06
You would have to get rid of the.
1:04:09
Which they wouldn't do. We, we know.
1:04:11
We've seen. They've proven it to US time and
1:04:14
time again. And there's I I really don't
1:04:17
think there are any exceptions anymore with Major League
1:04:19
Baseball when it comes to making money.
1:04:21
They're gonna opt to make money. Yeah. 10 times out of 10 so to
1:04:26
to rid the league of the All Star game in a in 2028, this
1:04:31
just not. Happens.
1:04:32
It's just tough man, 'cause like if you host, OK, if, if one of
1:04:37
your stadiums is hosting, how is that any different?
1:04:43
Where even are the Olympics in 2028?
1:04:46
Says LA. Oh, right, right, right.
1:04:48
Yeah. In LA, yeah, yeah.
1:04:49
I mean, that's. Like have some games in with
1:04:53
with the Angels, some games with the with the Dodgers.
1:04:58
I guess I would, I would, I would be curious to see what the
1:05:01
money breakdown would be for, like if Major League Baseball
1:05:04
gets any of that at all. Yeah, and would be sick is that
1:05:07
let's like these guys, these boys are in mid season form
1:05:11
literally like that's we get the world baseball classic where
1:05:15
like the the cobwebs are still there and and the rust is still
1:05:18
there that they're having to shake off.
1:05:19
This would be middle of the season.
1:05:22
Boys are, you know, already 300 a BS in be nice.
1:05:33
I'd be intrigued. That's a closer vote than you
1:05:35
think. Yeah, it's a it's an intriguing
1:05:38
question, an intriguing thought. I'm not.
1:05:41
An article though, Great. Polls good.
1:05:46
Very solid. Questions yeah, speaking about
1:05:52
journalism real quick, this whole Buster only getting hacked
1:05:56
thing hilarious, amazing. Although I, I think the, the,
1:06:03
the theme of this whole mishap or the the take away rather that
1:06:08
that people seem to agree on and I would have to agree myself, is
1:06:11
that whoever did this hacking outed themselves right away that
1:06:18
they had hacked Buster only and then immediately start going
1:06:21
into like into trade alert or like trade notifications.
1:06:26
And I'm like you, you blew this whole thing.
1:06:30
If you just would have went into.
1:06:31
The account you would have blown the baseball world up.
1:06:35
I mean. The one where they said show
1:06:37
Hayes going to jail? Yeah, like you could make the,
1:06:42
you could make the argument that like, yeah, that could be
1:06:44
believable to maybe to some like if, if maybe they're more
1:06:48
evidence was revealed overnight and like, whoa, whoa, whoa, he's
1:06:52
going to jail. Read you get some tweets for
1:06:54
anybody that didn't see this and lives under a rock.
1:06:57
Yeah, so the show, hey one again, the whoever this was came
1:07:01
out and was like, oh, I've hacked Busteroni.
1:07:03
I don't even know who Busteroni is.
1:07:04
And then proceeds to just start ripping off these tweets.
1:07:08
Couple of them. Shohei Otani has been banned for
1:07:10
life from the MLB in connection to charges with gambling.
1:07:13
His trial is August 28th. It is speculated that he could
1:07:16
get life in prison. Some are far more believable
1:07:21
than others. Like this one.
1:07:23
This one caused other. I at least know of one or two
1:07:30
that posted about it and maybe others didn't quickly deleted it
1:07:33
once they realized, but this one had people flipping out.
1:07:36
The Philadelphia Phillies and Chicago White Sox are finalizing
1:07:38
a deal that would send star outfielder Louise Robert Junior
1:07:42
to Philadelphia, sources tell ESPN.
1:07:44
Like that? 1.
1:07:45
If you just, if you hack the account, drop that and dip,
1:07:49
you've done your job like. You set.
1:07:50
You've set that afire for sure. Like what are we doing?
1:07:54
That's rolling. The one, the one that had me
1:07:55
double take to like pick up my phone was was Lindor to the A's.
1:08:01
The New York Mets are finalizing a deal that will send Francisco
1:08:05
Lindor to the Oakland Athletics. I was, I, I had to be like, hold
1:08:10
on. With the brakes let.
1:08:14
Me dive in real quick. Baltimore Orioles are relocating
1:08:18
the Las Vegas and the Oakland A's will stay in Oakland.
1:08:21
The season is cancelled due to COVID.
1:08:26
There were some others in there but then they just drop a OK if
1:08:30
I get an unlimited prison sentence who will come and bring
1:08:32
panties? Some out of pocket comments for
1:08:37
sure. Out of pocket off brand with the
1:08:39
rest of what you'd put out there with your hacking.
1:08:42
But. You know, obviously Buster only
1:08:45
has deleted his stuff, so I'm sure you can find that.
1:08:49
Yeah. And it was such a.
1:08:50
Loser move like OK, that was a little strong.
1:08:53
I don't mean to come at Buster only like that, but guy didn't
1:08:56
lean into it at all that I saw. I went back to his account, not
1:09:00
a mention, not like a oh, I got hecked, blah blah, blah.
1:09:04
It was just like immediately going into Yankees Dodgers or
1:09:08
that that may have been tweeted before.
1:09:10
But looking at his account right now, not a mention of it.
1:09:14
I'm like. No sense of humor?
1:09:16
That's pretty. Good like.
1:09:18
I think if if it happened to Tim Kirchen, he my man would have
1:09:21
would have told some stuff out there.
1:09:23
Kenny, Kenny, Rosenthal, whatever.
1:09:25
For sure throwing some some jokes out there.
1:09:27
Buster is not having it. Lame.
1:09:31
Speaking of lame, is that how we feel about the Minnesota Twin
1:09:34
City Connects? Or do we like them?
1:09:39
Go ahead and say it. I don't.
1:09:41
Hate them I don't hate them that's I don't hate them that
1:09:44
was my I meant to point out the city connects and I may have
1:09:47
mentioned this before I. Show me some creativity, I'm in.
1:09:51
Well, not even that, but if I like I'm going solely off off
1:09:54
initial reaction now, like I don't even I don't even care
1:09:57
anymore about like what the what the the connection is.
1:10:01
I'm just like, OK, if that if if I can look at it immediately and
1:10:05
go, OK, I see that they tried. I see that an effort was made,
1:10:07
then I'm like, all right, I don't hate it.
1:10:09
And when I saw these, I'm like, OK, it doesn't just say
1:10:13
Minnesota across the chest like there was an effort made here.
1:10:18
They obviously making a little bit of a or or rather a a
1:10:23
larger, more direct connection to the lakes.
1:10:27
I like that. I like that.
1:10:28
Yeah, I like the the bill had like like the topography of one
1:10:37
of the lakes and the under. Under yeah, the under Bill had
1:10:41
yeah. It was like yeah, like the lit
1:10:45
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't.
1:10:47
Hate it. I really, I really didn't.
1:10:49
I'm not going to sit here and say I I love it and it's the
1:10:52
best one. I I just, I don't hate it.
1:10:57
Pretty cool. And effort was was at least
1:11:00
made, it seems. Yeah, we're at the point now
1:11:02
where you can really start drawing a line between ones that
1:11:06
they spent more than 20 minutes on and ones that they didn't.
1:11:10
And I feel like this one was one that maybe they spent more than
1:11:12
20 minutes on. They didn't just slap Minnesota
1:11:16
crossed, although I thought it was interesting, though that
1:11:20
isn't, isn't that I'm just thinking of like the state
1:11:30
versus city thing. Like I know they're Minnesota
1:11:33
Twins and all that, but they are called City Connect and I feel
1:11:37
like some of these teams are just going more like state broad
1:11:42
or like brought more broadly the state angle versus not.
1:11:45
It's not not the end of the world either way.
1:11:48
I just thought it was interesting, really leaning into
1:11:51
the lake stuff which again don't hit it.
1:11:56
Like the other, you get the Rangers for Texas.
1:12:05
Yeah, and I mean, I guess if if you're not explicitly listed as
1:12:09
a City team and you're more like a state team, then I I guess
1:12:13
you're you're kind of handcuffed there.
1:12:15
So it's not a huge deal. But just throwing it out there.
1:12:19
Last thing we got before we get out of here.
1:12:21
Weekend series to watch. I got a doozy here.
1:12:27
I should go first then 'cause mine's go ahead whatever.
1:12:31
What do you got? What do you got for us to watch
1:12:33
this weekend? Mine's mine's just a choice.
1:12:35
This is. This is similar to what was it
1:12:38
the was it this past weekend where it was Yankees, Dodgers
1:12:41
and I was like. Yeah, I don't remember what you
1:12:43
picked. Did you pick anything?
1:12:44
I don't even think I picked anything.
1:12:46
Oh, I had to pick by default the London series.
1:12:48
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. But.
1:12:49
Otherwise, I wouldn't have picked anything 'cause you
1:12:51
shouldn't really need to be watching any other series other
1:12:54
than Yankees, Dodgers last weekend.
1:12:56
But it's kind of the same thing here, and you'll see why.
1:13:00
Give me give me the The Rangers Aren't Dead Yet series going to
1:13:05
Seattle. I managed to stumble my way into
1:13:08
another Apple TV series, so I apologize.
1:13:11
That starts Friday. Got Heaney going going against
1:13:15
Kirby Saturdays on Fox, Ivaldi and Logan Gilbert.
1:13:21
I think that's the one. Excellent.
1:13:23
Yeah, I think that's the one to tap into.
1:13:26
And then Dane Dunning going against for the Rangers, going
1:13:29
against somebody named Undecided for the Mariners.
1:13:34
I'm excited to see what Undecided can do, see if he's
1:13:37
got see if he's got some some things we haven't seen yet.
1:13:40
You know, huge three-game set. Huge.
1:13:45
Three-game set for me as well and as between two of baseball's
1:13:51
best, the Phillies and the Orioles.
1:13:52
Phillies are going to be in town in Baltimore.
1:13:56
Are you going to go? Dude, I was, I was looking at
1:13:59
tickets, but I when I mentioned that was the last episode, I
1:14:04
think I alluded to the fact that this Oh, right, 'cause we're I
1:14:07
was talking about how I haven't been to a game yet and I
1:14:10
mentioned that the Phillies were coming to Baltimore when I just,
1:14:14
when I no, no, when I said that I completely forgot that they're
1:14:17
sold out. Like they made that announcement
1:14:20
like a week before. I think it was the Saturday,
1:14:22
which I can't make it a Friday night, but I think this is
1:14:25
Saturday and Sunday. I already sold out something
1:14:26
like they're going to be insane even if you can find them
1:14:30
aftermarket or whatever. Well, you might know somebody
1:14:33
that you could reach out to. It's hard to say.
1:14:36
It's been a minute since we talked to that particular
1:14:38
individual. I'm not about to just hit him up
1:14:40
like yo Philly's OS. I think I'm going to text him
1:14:46
and tell him that we're calling him out now.
1:14:49
I think we're just here to openly call him out on on
1:14:51
episodes until we hear his voice again.
1:14:56
Until he finally decides to When?
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Was the last time we had Ryan? Was it the Was it the bold
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predictions episode? Was it Was it the first episode
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like of the? Season.
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Oh man, it it made it made his way through a tequila bottle a
1:15:09
little bit further. Than than we expected he would.
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Unreal, man, we've been hyping that.
1:15:18
We've been like Ryan, look, it's our biggest episode of the year.
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Like without a doubt, we need you on your A game and he shows
1:15:24
up like half drunk. I don't know.
1:15:28
I I'm speculating. I'm not I, I think that was
1:15:32
very, very much the case. I suppose Phillies knows.
1:15:37
Game one seven O 5 on Friday. Ranger Suarez versus Kyle
1:15:40
Bradish, Game two. Kyle Bradish game Game 2O No.
1:15:46
Oh no, no, no, no, not this one. Game three-game two, 4:05 PM
1:15:53
Eastern, That's Taiwan Walker versus Grayson Rodriguez and
1:15:56
game three, pending any changes. Game three, 1:35 PM.
1:16:02
How this isn't Sunday night Baseball, I don't know.
1:16:05
Game 3135 is Zach Wheeler versus Corbin Burns appointment
1:16:13
television. There have been some excellent,
1:16:17
excellent pitching matchups this far in this season and we're
1:16:21
we're not even halfway through June yet and there have been
1:16:24
some excellent matchups. I love it.
1:16:27
What are we doing? What is this Sunday night game,
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please? It's my game.
1:16:32
I think it's my game. No, it's not my game.
1:16:34
It's not my game. Oh, it's probably Yankees Red
1:16:38
Sox, isn't it? It is.
1:16:41
Oh my gosh, dude, give it. What are we doing?
1:16:54
Give it off, ESPN. Nobody wants to watch the
1:16:57
Yankees and Red Sox anymore. And you're.
1:17:00
And that's coming from Yankees and Red Sox fans right here.
1:17:04
This has been dead for like 12 years and they're still.
1:17:08
Trying to hype it up. I saw the promo for it before we
1:17:10
hopped on. It was a it was a commercial and
1:17:12
they were like this historic matchup returns.
1:17:15
I'm like historic is really the only thing you can label it now
1:17:20
because it's not doing anything for the here and now.
1:17:24
Painful. ESPN just couldn't be more tone
1:17:28
deaf. Boycott, boycott Sunday night
1:17:32
baseball. And if you were only going to
1:17:34
watch one game, and it may be in addition to your favorite team's
1:17:38
game on Sunday, if you're going to, if you're going to test
1:17:41
waters, hey, you know what? It's the weekend.
1:17:42
I'll watch a second baseball game today because I got the
1:17:44
time. Make it this one game three of
1:17:47
the Phillies O series, 1:35 PM Eastern.
1:17:50
Zach Wheeler, Corbin Burns. Make it happen.
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Big time. That's all I got.
1:17:58
I love that we roll deep. We roll deep for the midweek.
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You're welcome, we love you, we appreciate you.
1:18:07
Like, comment, review, subscribe, recommend, refer
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#buzzwords. Don't go chasing curveballs.
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Love you and as always, looking forward to talking more baseball
1:18:22
with you guys soon. Until next time, stay filthy.