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Episode 78 Open Mic! · Podcast Championship Wrestling

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is w W E and c W alumni
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  Speaker 1: look Blue Meaning and you're listening to pc W.
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  Speaker 2: The question is, oh you.
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  Speaker 3: Let me talk to her.
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  Speaker 1: I will give you a show like you have never
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  Speaker 1: recovered streamed before a life because I can't.
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  Speaker 4: What do you guys want to talk about?
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  Speaker 3: And the color red in a world with the black
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  Speaker 3: and white of world?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you.
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  Speaker 3: Fuck up?
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  Speaker 5: Bad? You got I'm bad?
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  Speaker 6: WHOA Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children, rollages.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of PCW podcast Championship Wrestling.
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  Speaker 2: I am your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dried Chicken,
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  Speaker 2: and we are doing an open mic where we're just
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  Speaker 2: gonna talk about some key topics. We're gonna go over
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  Speaker 2: the latest Cody Rhodes and John Cena square off in
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  Speaker 2: promo that they had this recently on RAW. I'm bringing
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  Speaker 2: a few other topics to the table and I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: we'll bay'll just fill it in, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: With that said, because we're on the road to Vestlemania,
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  Speaker 2: we just have so much shit to talk about. Let
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  Speaker 2: me bring in the co host.
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  Speaker 7: Oh Doyle, Oh, it's me, it's me.
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  Speaker 8: It's a Dyli and it's April fool day. You guys
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  Speaker 8: get got today at all?
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  Speaker 5: Did you get anybody?
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  Speaker 9: No?
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  Speaker 2: You know what, Honestly, I wasn't gonna fuck with anybody
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  Speaker 2: at work today, Like I thought about it. I thought
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  Speaker 2: even fucking with some of the fans, you know, maybe
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  Speaker 2: playing some I don't know something, but I was just like,
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  Speaker 2: it's too much work. It's too much work.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah it is.
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  Speaker 2: So if you have kids, absolutely like it's fun right,
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  Speaker 2: but like they're like me, I just live alone, just
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  Speaker 2: a grown ass man. I got. I just got co workers, man,
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  Speaker 2: that's all. And it's either gonna be funny or I
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  Speaker 2: want to get written up one or the other. So
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  Speaker 2: try explaining that in HR. Alright, let's bring out the other.
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  Speaker 5: Dude. Oh so.
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  Speaker 2: I might have been.
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  Speaker 9: It's just okay, okay.
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  Speaker 10: For lack of bad luck like it's on me.
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  Speaker 9: Now, I'm all I'm gonna get them all.
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  Speaker 3: You dre welcome back yo yo?
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  Speaker 1: What a do PCW crew main event? Dre Uso is
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  Speaker 1: now on your podcast.
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  Speaker 2: That music man that gets me gone. You know what,
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  Speaker 2: some guys just find their music and it works for them,
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  Speaker 2: And I think you found yours works works gets me
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  Speaker 2: hyped every time I'm gonna be honest with you. I
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  Speaker 2: was gonna play you out first. And then I pushed
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  Speaker 2: the button and I realized that I didn't have it set,
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, oh oh, because you had a
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  Speaker 2: different theme. I think last last episode.
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  Speaker 3: It was Yeah, yes, it's Black History Month theme.
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  Speaker 1: Yes it was black y'all and I'm black, y'all, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm blacking and black and I'm black y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I always have that. I don't know why
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  Speaker 2: I have that one on the hot button, you know.
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  Speaker 5: But.
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  Speaker 3: Because you know you're gonna have to dust it off
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  Speaker 3: once a year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do have someone that I have to, you know,
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  Speaker 2: occasionally dust off. But I do have a new one. Man,
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  Speaker 2: Do I have a new one? Doyle?
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  Speaker 7: I got?
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  Speaker 2: I got this little like little short commercial. Does this
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  Speaker 2: bring it back? Does this take either of you guys back?
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  Speaker 2: Here we go.
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  Speaker 9: You can't make a game as lifelike I smacked down.
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  Speaker 9: Just bring it without that help. I'm an expert. You
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  Speaker 9: call this texture mapping out of the way, Junior.
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  Speaker 8: I think we need to add a few more polygons
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  Speaker 8: to Stephanie.
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  Speaker 5: Mister Jericho, can you write down that compression algorithm.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a little Busy Junior.
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  Speaker 9: Yes, thanks to help from WW have Superstar Chris Jericho,
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  Speaker 9: just bring it is the most electrifying trash talk in
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  Speaker 9: realistic SmackDown game yet.
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  Speaker 11: See how I rushed my back like so I can't
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  Speaker 11: feel leg.
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  Speaker 2: Do you guys remember that commercial with Jericho.
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  Speaker 3: The commercial, no, the game.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, And it's kind of funny that because that was
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  Speaker 1: the first one that came out on the p S two,
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  Speaker 1: I believe, So it's funny as hell here and they're
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  Speaker 1: talking about the most realistic graphics scene to date, which
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  Speaker 1: for the time. Sure look back at that ship now, Oh.
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  Speaker 2: My god, I have it and uh, you know, like
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  Speaker 2: once I'll dust it off and I'll play it, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm just like, god, these graphics terrible a.
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  Speaker 8: Thing where they show like Undertaker and like his first
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  Speaker 8: year versus like modern day, like he goes from like
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  Speaker 8: a it looks like, uh, it's like the video for
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  Speaker 8: Money for Nothing and Your Chicks for the Dire Straight
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  Speaker 8: song like the Big Square.
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  Speaker 5: But then like he looks almost almost you know, super realistic.
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  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, well think about like I think Taker
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  Speaker 2: might be one of those guys who's probably in every
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  Speaker 2: w w AF wrestling game ever. Made, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Like he's been there since the beginning, right, Hogan.
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  Speaker 1: Hogan is probably the closest one because original, like the
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  Speaker 1: old arcade game, the wrestling game.
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  Speaker 2: Right, right, But I mean at longevity, like who's been
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  Speaker 2: in him the most? I would have to say Taker.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the most. Probably Undertaker, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because there was a sweet amount of time where Hogan
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  Speaker 2: wasn't in games, you know, But yeah, I would say,
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  Speaker 2: like just consistently every year it's just a new version
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  Speaker 2: of Taker, a new version of Taker, and it's just like, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this is now him with the American badass, but he's
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  Speaker 2: in his fifties, you know. Wait, uh, I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: bring up to you guys. I was looking at meet
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  Speaker 2: and greet prices. Been hearing people talking about meat and
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  Speaker 2: greet prices. I have a few here that were just
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  Speaker 2: released the other day. I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you guys,
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  Speaker 2: and I want you to kind of give me a
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  Speaker 2: round about what number you think this might you know,
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  Speaker 2: be roughly how much you think it costs to see
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  Speaker 2: Bianca bell Air just just her.
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  Speaker 5: About.
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  Speaker 1: I will say about three hundred flight spoiler alert. I
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  Speaker 1: think I saw the same list that you're about to
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  Speaker 1: be reference to. So I think it was like three yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Three hundred, three hundred, Ray Mysterio and Charlotte five hundred,
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  Speaker 2: bron Breaker and Live Morgan five hundred. Uh you meet both.
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  Speaker 5: Of what they were last year. I don't think that's as.
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  Speaker 2: I say, Like I don't know, Like if you want
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  Speaker 2: to like what prices were last.
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  Speaker 8: Year, you know, I then I said the same thing
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  Speaker 8: last year when I had the opportunity to actually do it.
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  Speaker 5: I'd rather get twelve.
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  Speaker 8: Indie guys picture an autograph than one, you know, for
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  Speaker 8: that three hundred at wrestle kN you know.
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  Speaker 5: And plus because that for your three hundred.
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  Speaker 8: You're probably right, you know, you get what five seconds
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  Speaker 8: with the person maybe and you're rusher, you know, wrest
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  Speaker 8: I talked to Tony Shavani for five minutes, you know
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  Speaker 8: what I mean.
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  Speaker 5: I talked to the Rhodes for five minutes, you know
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  Speaker 5: what I mean?
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  Speaker 8: Like you can do that a dozen times for that
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  Speaker 8: three hundred dollars, because you know, because those guys are
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  Speaker 8: only you know, in the in the forty to eighty
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  Speaker 8: range maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the biggest thing, Like that's the one
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  Speaker 1: thing the wrestla kan has going forward is yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: get that one on one that much more intimated time.
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  Speaker 1: And granted some of the featured people have the longer lines,
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  Speaker 1: so maybe you know that might not get as much
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  Speaker 1: interaction with them, like.
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  Speaker 8: And then some guys do get a a little more
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  Speaker 8: expensive buck buck fifty you know, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like I can imagine what Rick Flair was charging
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  Speaker 1: last year at wrestled cond somebody like that. And obviously
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  Speaker 1: people like Sting, you know, you don't get much interaction
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  Speaker 1: with them unless you paid for like a special event
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  Speaker 1: like I did last year.
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  Speaker 5: The question you asked before, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, something like that.
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  Speaker 1: You know that'll you know something else I'll take to
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  Speaker 1: the grave with me or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Even the the pickers we got Watrican Leder, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we got limited interaction with them, but you know, did
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  Speaker 1: get to put the arm around the waist.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want to see Damian Priest and Tiffany Stranton,
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  Speaker 2: it's five hundred bucks. You know, can I pay two
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  Speaker 2: to fifteen just see Tiffany Stratton?
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  Speaker 10: You know.
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  Speaker 2: The USOS if you want to see both USOS six
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  Speaker 2: fifty well ye six six nine, you know, nice up,
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  Speaker 2: So that's how much I've seen for these that were
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  Speaker 2: listed here. I that's a lot of damn money, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of damn money.
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  Speaker 1: For what probably a photo and because you know, the
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  Speaker 1: lines are gonna be ridiculous. So just like you said, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna get a photo.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, what's up? I appreciate you. Yeah, move on
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  Speaker 3: to the next one.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, all right. So this now, now, you know,
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  Speaker 2: coming off of that, you know telling you guys what
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  Speaker 2: meat Greek packages were. So these were pretty high, right,
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  Speaker 2: we thought these were pretty high. But it gets better, Doyle.
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  Speaker 2: This one's for you, buddy, this guy right here.
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  Speaker 10: Well, let me tell you something, brother.
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  Speaker 2: You can get the whole Cogan Real American Sweet Package
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  Speaker 2: for WrestleMania forty one.
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  Speaker 8: Originally well, you have an exorbitant price, and then disappeared
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  Speaker 8: for a couple of weeks, and that was back.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you first everything it includes, right, and
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  Speaker 2: then I'm gonna tell you what it was. All right,
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  Speaker 2: So this this includes the premium luxury suite seating for
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  Speaker 2: both nights of WrestleMania forty one given, an all inclusive
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  Speaker 2: food and beverages given, and you also get your whole
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  Speaker 2: COVID themed souvenirs. Brother, then you get a mean and
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  Speaker 2: greet with the Hulkster dude, and then you get the
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  Speaker 2: top and all off. This is great. You get a
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  Speaker 2: top golf event hosted by the miss. I know if
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  Speaker 2: you're holding back.
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  Speaker 5: The ex.
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  Speaker 3: Dragged into that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he was the only guy on the roster that
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  Speaker 1: said yes or the first thing I said.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, dude, dude, I asked, like seven of the wrestlers, brother,
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  Speaker 2: you gotta come help me, dude, just for like one
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  Speaker 2: day when they go golfing.
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  Speaker 5: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: I do not think for a second that Hogan was
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  Speaker 1: the guy that asked him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I bet no.
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  Speaker 1: No, that was either Triple Ah or somebody else in
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  Speaker 1: talent relations, like hey look, Mike, we needed to come
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  Speaker 1: through a force one more time.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: We went through the whole roster asking everybody if they
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  Speaker 1: can do this little golf event for Hogan. Everybody told
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  Speaker 1: us to eat the dig Can you do me this
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  Speaker 1: one solid do this one solid thing. I talked to
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  Speaker 1: Trip if I give you another US title, reign or something,
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  Speaker 1: they just help me out.
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  Speaker 2: Originally, this was priced at ninety five hundred bucks ninety
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  Speaker 2: five hundred dollars gentlemen. Now, thank god it was reduced
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  Speaker 2: to sixty nine hundred and fifty dollars. Thank god.
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  Speaker 1: I love the arrogance of Hulk Hogan thinking all of
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  Speaker 1: the people he is uh on that side of the
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  Speaker 1: isle or all the magas really have money like that,
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  Speaker 1: and that they would want to spend it of all
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  Speaker 1: the WrestleMania things with him.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'd pay that money to make sure he didn't
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  Speaker 8: interact with me.
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  Speaker 1: You gonna talk say, I got kind of Wrestlemaniam money.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not spending it for him.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, bro, can you like bargain? Can you like listen?
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  Speaker 2: Can I just do like a three grand package where
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  Speaker 2: I get the luxury suite, the inclusive food and beverage,
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  Speaker 2: and then like the top golf maybe with the mists
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  Speaker 2: so I can ask him about his wife, some questions
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  Speaker 2: about Murray's But that's it. Like, can we just not
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  Speaker 2: have Hogan? Can just walk by, he can just stand
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  Speaker 2: down the lobby for thirty minutes. I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: I don't need the luxury suite because you're way up
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  Speaker 1: in the in the nosebleedze. Yeah, you're not in the weather,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe you're watching on the screen but if I
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  Speaker 1: get if I got that kind of money to burn
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  Speaker 1: on WrestleMania, I'm gonna be front row. I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 1: be sitting up in some boogie ass executive suite, s
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  Speaker 1: moosing with a bunch of people that I may or
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  Speaker 1: may not like, with the people where.
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  Speaker 5: Y'all can see other dopes and drop ten grand to
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  Speaker 5: hang out with Hull.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, front row with the people on camera,
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  Speaker 1: maybe go down and infamy with or in history with
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  Speaker 1: a shock reaction like the dude who who reacted to
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  Speaker 1: Undertaker's first loss right interacting?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not interacting with the crowd, man, You're totally
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  Speaker 2: You're there, but you're not there. You might as well
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  Speaker 2: just be at home watching it, you know, eating whatever
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  Speaker 2: you want, drinking whatever you want, because being there, you
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  Speaker 2: gotta be there, Be in there, be in the crowd,
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  Speaker 2: Be part of the crowd, Be part of the the
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  Speaker 2: ww universe. During the moment, ain't nobody gonna hear you
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  Speaker 2: screaming through class right, Boil.
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  Speaker 1: Boil boy, and I refuse to believe that anybody who's
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  Speaker 1: paying for those tickets are real wrestling fans.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, speaking of tickets, Speaking of tickets, all right, I
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  Speaker 2: got some numbers here. Now, this is as I think
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  Speaker 2: like two days ago. As of two days ago.
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  Speaker 3: Hey.
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  Speaker 2: As reported by Dave Meltzer of the Wrestling Observer newsletter,
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  Speaker 2: approximately forty six thousand tickets have been sold for Night one.
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  Speaker 2: Just over a thousand more have been sold for Night two.
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  Speaker 2: WrestleMania is currently at forty and fifteen tickets out for
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  Speaker 2: the first night, Yeah, forty seven thousand and seven hundred
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  Speaker 2: and thirty for the second night for again down to
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  Speaker 2: naty gritty with identical two hundred and seventy three dollars
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  Speaker 2: get in prices on the secondary market. For context, the
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  Speaker 2: anse attendance for last year's event was sixty thousand, thirty
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  Speaker 2: six for Night one and sixty thousand, two hundred and
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  Speaker 2: three for Night two. Try to see it doesn't doesn't
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  Speaker 2: really tell me though, wow. Tickets for the Hall of
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  Speaker 2: Fame Ceremony two thousand, three hundred and two, The Undertaker
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  Speaker 2: one Dead Man Show one thousand, six hundred and twenty
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  Speaker 2: one tickets, The Roast of WrestleMania two thousand, three hundred
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  Speaker 2: and thirteen tickets NXT in Las Vegas one thousand, one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and sixty one It doesn't tell me how many
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  Speaker 2: that arena holds, Like, I don't know, is forty six thousand?
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  Speaker 2: Are we closed? Is fifty thousand? The max capacity? Like
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  Speaker 2: what's in Mexico?
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  Speaker 1: I think it's something like that. I think that's that's
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  Speaker 1: where the Raiders play out. Want to say that stadium
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  Speaker 1: holds like fifty five thousand or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: What's the name of all? Let me just look it
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  Speaker 2: up here, Wressell mean, yeah, forty one stadium stay capacity.
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  Speaker 3: Here we go.
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  Speaker 5: I believe there's sections that still aren't allegiate. Yeah, Sven Thig,
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  Speaker 5: it's for you.
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  Speaker 2: Ye six.
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  Speaker 8: It's on pace to be the first WrestleMania with less
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  Speaker 8: than sixty thousand non COVID anyway since WrestleMania twenty two,
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  Speaker 8: I believe.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I was looking up curiosity.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, No, I was off that Allegiant Stadium's capacity
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  Speaker 1: is for an NFL game is sixty five thousand. It's
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  Speaker 1: expandable up to seventy one.
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  Speaker 5: You're gonna lose a certain amount with the staging, I would.
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  Speaker 3: Think, but sure, but I would imagine it could Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: They certainly could fit a lot more people than that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, tickets, staging, ring.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you lose something with staging obviously for the arena setup,
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  Speaker 1: but some of that is made up with the.
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  Speaker 5: Floor taking back people on the floor.
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  Speaker 1: I could have, they should they should have easily been
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  Speaker 1: able to match what uh forty did at the Blake.
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  Speaker 3: I would think you would that right now.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just out of curiosity. I was like, okay, 'llt's
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  Speaker 2: say the three of us wanted to go to WrestleMania.
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  Speaker 2: We went to get our tickets tonight, right for nineteenth
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  Speaker 2: and the twentieth, we'll get We'll just let's see how
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  Speaker 2: much ticket prices are going for right now? There we go. Now,
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  Speaker 2: if we want to sit roughly where we sat last year, right,
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  Speaker 2: we're looking at one thousand on eighteen dollars a ticket.
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  Speaker 3: At night.
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  Speaker 2: Each that's uh each night tickets together, that's each night.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: If you're if you're getting.
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  Speaker 8: Like I've talked about for a long time, that they're
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  Speaker 8: going to reach this critical mass where people just aren't
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  Speaker 8: going to be able to afford it anymore, and maybe
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  Speaker 8: we're there, you know, yeah, yeah, and again I mean
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  Speaker 8: without getting too political, you know a lot of a
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  Speaker 8: lot of countries are telling their people don't go to
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  Speaker 8: the United States right now. And I've like, WrestleMania is
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  Speaker 8: a thing that people.
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  Speaker 5: Come from all over the world, and that's part of
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  Speaker 5: what makes it so fucking cool.
• 20:19
  Speaker 8: You know, Like Philly was filled with people from all
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: over the place last year, which was awesome.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: But I wonder how much that's an impact in it,
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: because you.
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: Know, even five thousand more people, the numbers start to
• 20:30
  Speaker 8: look a lot better. But you got to wonder how
• 20:33
  Speaker 8: many you know, fans in the UK or France or
• 20:36
  Speaker 8: Germany or wherever are going. Eh, you know, I know,
• 20:39
  Speaker 8: we we had taught we you know, I know, we
• 20:41
  Speaker 8: planned to go to WrestleMania for you know, X amount
• 20:43
  Speaker 8: of years We've been saving up whatever, and they go, oh,
• 20:46
  Speaker 8: maybe we'll go next year, or maybe we'll wait a
• 20:48
  Speaker 8: couple of years.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: And then try, you know. Yeah, and that could be
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: playing a part of it.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that could be a number of reasons could
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: play it in that way, outside of just the traveler advisories.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: It could pricing could be a factor for them as well.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: You know, we think about the pricing from US as Americans,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: but for them flying in Vegas, which is an expensive
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: place to stay already, and you know, as some people
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: have said Vegas isn't exactly the most kid friendly town,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: So if somebody's planning this as a family trip, they
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: might be thinking, I don't know if I want to
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: do Vegas with the kids when you know next year's
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: New Orleans.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I never thought about that with people bringing kids
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: to Vegas, Like, is that something you do? It's I've
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: never been to Vegas, so I don't know if it's like,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: if there's anything kid friendly, is there, like a gigantic
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: daycare you can drop them off at.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I'm sure Vegas tries to be kid friendly, but for
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: the most part, it's seen as a very adult town.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: City, right, right.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I don't think they have like children's slot machines where
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: you can you know, one an extra piece of bubblegum
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: or something.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Although Vegas, if they could get away with, they.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Probably would have children's slot machines in there, just to
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: get the fuckers hooked.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: Early airport you get there, it's the first thing you say.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, literally in the airport they have them there.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I don't think you can put it
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: on one single reason, but if I was to, if
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I had to say, probably the top three reasons for
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: lackluster sales this year. One is pricing, two's stories storylines,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: and three is location. I mean that we can like said,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: we've already talked about the pricing and that and how
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: that's been a actiously expensive, like what you say, eleven
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: eleven hundred dollars just for one night.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just just and we got.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Both of our tickets last year for what eight both
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: nights were around eight hundred.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like they were asking closer.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Brandy, we did get in on the pre sale,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: so you know, hook up, but.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Still like, okay, like I found one, I found some
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: that eight hundred dollars, right, that's the cheapest. But we're
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: not looking at really good seats. We're looking at pretty
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: bad season up there.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: And then those leads like them people that we was
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: looking at last year across the stadium and it was
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: like the wind blowed the wrong way, y'all gonna fall
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: off that damn build up way.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Way way up top, like like.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like.
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: Being there, school and all, but for eight hundred dollars,
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: I'm staying home. I'm gonna see it. I'm gonna have
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: a better.
• 23:55
  Speaker 12: Experience, I think at my house, you know, watching it
• 23:59
  Speaker 12: on a fucking huge screen, you know, rather than having
• 24:04
  Speaker 12: to watch a thing that's happening in front of my face,
• 24:07
  Speaker 12: but I can't see.
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: It because it's so far away.
• 24:09
  Speaker 8: I have to still watching it on a screen not
• 24:13
  Speaker 8: as good as a screen in fact.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hell, even if you're not even if you do go,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: don't go to WrestleMania. I think your money would be
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: better spent just going out there to Vegas participating in
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: everything else. You know, get your ticket for the World,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: get your ticket for Wrestle Khan, get your tickets for
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: while a Mania, get your tickets for all the other
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: indie shows. Yeah exactly, and then find a watch party
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: that Saturday and Sunday, because you know, watch parties are
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: going to be off the chain out there in Vegas,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: and just watch it. That way, that'd probably be a
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: better investment than actually going to the stadium. Like, I
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: wonder how many people are doing that, are just going
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: out there just for the week, just for the activities
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: and festivities, and be like, I'll be at the bar
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: for Saturday and Sunday tickets maybe I'll go or whatever.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: I was at the bar. Flair was there and me
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: and him had a wild fucking night in Vegas. You
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: never know.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because I mean next year is New Orleans,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: and I'm very serious about wanting to attend WrestleMania next
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: year in New Orleans.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: But if them ticket prices are obnoxious, guess what the
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: fuck I'm gonna do.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Go down to New Orleans, attend everything else, and find
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: me a watch party at somebody's ball.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: Actually true, all true.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, talk about like a busy fucking week, you know,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: like it's always so hectic. There's so much shit to
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: watch because we have on the eighteenth, we have SmackDown,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: we have the nineteenth, we have the Hall of Fame,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: and we also have NXT Stand and Delivery. Then we
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: have wrestle Media Night one and then night two on
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: the twentieth. We have Frawled again on the twenty first,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: and then NXT again on the twenty second, and then
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: it's just vicious cycle all over. And now we have
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: this LFG. I see. I also saw ads for Evolve.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: That's another thing. There's just so much. We're just so
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: oversaturated with wrestling.
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: Yes, oh my god, you know it's funny back to
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: go back to two hours.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I will tell you this that I
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: did enjoy the past few weeks of having RALL started
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: an earlier time because I was able to finish WRANG
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: super early and then like go to bed like pretty
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: early on a Monday, and I felt good about it.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Like I was like, damn, like it's like six o'clock,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: seven thirty or whatever, like I'm already done with RALL.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: This is awesome. It's like homework that's done.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: That's how it felt. Yeah, right, kind of like when
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: you do your homework at school before you leave, so
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: it's done the next day. That's kind of how I felt.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, this is awesome.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a nice It's a nice thing every once
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: in a while. I don't know if I would want that,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: you know, all the time, like afternoon RAW, because there's
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: still something nice about having it at night, you know,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: getting off work, coming home and you know, Monday night,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Monday Night Raw, having that thing to tune into on
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Monday nights. There's still something nice about that. This was, yes,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: admittedly a nice little break from the norm, especially considering
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: I was off this past Monday, so I was actually
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: home to be able to watch it live as opposed
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: to having to avoid spoilers stay off the internet, so
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I get home to watch it and.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Dealing with all that SmackDown.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: On the other hand, Yeah, that motherfucker can't go back
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: to two hours soon enough. Like I said it last
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: last night while watching Raw, like it was going and
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: then I looked down at the clock and I was like,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: oh shit, we're already an hour into Raw, and it
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: it felt like thirty minutes that past.
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: Well, well, I think both shows are suffering because wrestling
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: years later this year than usual, you know.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: And I get why they did it sort of.
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: I mean, if we all remember Night One, especially uh
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: last year, but you also booked the first week of
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: April outdoors, you know, inside in Vegas, you're not going.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: To have a problem regardless, but like you know.
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: But that also means you're gonna make all these storylines
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: go on for two extra weeks, you know. And and
• 28:26
  Speaker 8: especially the Tiffany Stratton Charlotte the Rumble Winners feuds are
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: just draged. I mean, we got a little injection of
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: something into the gun Jay situation, but my god, eight
• 28:43
  Speaker 8: ten weeks whatever it is, it's a long fucking time
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: to have to build a match without having a match.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're You're absolutely right about that suffering. I think, yeah,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: a lot of the storylines are being are suffering from
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: having to be dragged out and extended and telling these
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: long stories on what's supposed to be the fast track.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: You know, that's traditionally what's supposed to be is from
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: the moment the rumble hits.
• 29:10
  Speaker 8: It's like the missed happened, a fast lane or something
• 29:14
  Speaker 8: like that. This year it was something between the Chamber
• 29:16
  Speaker 8: and WrestleMania or Saturday event.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Well, normally it would be the Chamber and then you know,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: full speed ahead in the WrestleMania, but since they decided
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: to extend it out, yeah, they definitely needed to fill in.
• 29:29
  Speaker 8: The gap between the Rumble and the Chamber. Was it
• 29:33
  Speaker 8: between Chamber and Mania? I can't remember.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I don't I remember back in the day it was,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: and then it was no Way Out and then we
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: had WrestleMania, and then after they got rid of No
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Way Out, they replaced that with what was that replaced
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: with fast Lane, and then fast Lane was replaced with
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Elimination Chamber.
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: I don't remember.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: That's why I kind of feel like that it is, But.
• 29:52
  Speaker 8: Anyway, I think they should have had something some some
• 29:56
  Speaker 8: type of bigger event between the Chamber and Man.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: That was a long time to not have anything.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: And they had the perfect thing right there in their
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: pocket that they could have used, but said they wanted
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: to put it on. What the night before Elimination Chamber
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: or the night before the Rumble?
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah it's Saturday Night main event. Yeah, like the week
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: or the week before.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what should be.
• 30:20
  Speaker 8: You could have done the US versus Ludvig Kaiser and
• 30:23
  Speaker 8: Gunter or something, you know, like they can still be
• 30:26
  Speaker 8: matches that involves the WrestleMania, but.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I'm hearing Gunter and seeing punker fighting, dark matches, house shows.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Get the fuck out of here? Are you kidding me?
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: Right now?
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: With the ship that could have been a Saturday Night
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: main event thing, or some of these storyline things like
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: the Freaking the Real and EO rematch that could have
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: been a Saturday Night Made event.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Thing absolutely could have been absolutely.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Or Jimmy versus Gunter that could have been Saturday the
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Night Made event and let that beat down happen. I
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: don't know how NBC would have felt about it, but
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: imagine if that would have on Saturday Night Main event.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: You advanced your Storylinze, you got something interesting and you
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: made Saturday night main event worth watching. Mm hmmm hmm
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: instead of this fluff ass safe shit they've been doing
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: the last couple of times.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: I have a listener. We don't have as many people
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: this year going into the Hall of Fame as I thought.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: So far, we have Triple h Michelle McCool, Let's Luger,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: the natural disasters earthquake and typhoon, and we're getting an
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: immortal moment, which is Stone called Steve Auston versus Brett
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: hard from WrestleMania thirteen.
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: So not.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Too many people this year, Like, no, it's a I mean,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know. You think they're going to release a
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: few more names before the ceremony.
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: It would surprise me. I mean I am at least
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: kind of.
• 31:52
  Speaker 8: It used to be so formulaic, right, You had your
• 31:54
  Speaker 8: big headliner, you had a woman, you had a tag team,
• 31:57
  Speaker 8: you had a minority, you had a dead guy.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: That was Yeah, that was the formula. Uh. I'm kind
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: of glad we're not doing that anymore. You know, what
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: if if somebody else went in?
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what's actually missing from this year?
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: What would have been like traditional in the past that
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Vince when they said, like Vince had his formula, we
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: don't have the minority this.
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: Year or celebrity yet anyway.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, remember how he said, like in the past, Vince
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: had a bit of a formula, Like he always wanted
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: to have a tag team every year. He wanted to
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: have a woman every year and a minority every year.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: We got the woman, we got the tag team. Obviously,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: we got a big headliner. He got the minorities. Paul
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I thought we wouldn't fucking notice.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Well I didn't notice, but now I am no scrolling through.
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, he's the still hasn't gone yet. He
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: was supposed to go in in twenty twenty and then
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: that got canceled.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Nobody.
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah wait, but then he's five years later and he
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: got in.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Yep, ain't going in, so he gets a headliner year.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Really, they're gonna have to probably find a down year, like, damn,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: we ain't got nobody else.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Hey, what you're.
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: Doing right.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Ship?
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Speaking of Triple H, I have a list here I saw.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: I don't want to run this by you guys. It's
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: ten things that Triple H has changed in the business
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: since Vince McMahon has left some of them, I'm just
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: gonna like go through and some we could just break
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: down and talk. One of them they said was making
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: legends inferior. Vince had a way of treating legends like
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: crap when they would show up on the show. And
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: apparently Triple H has been treating legends a lot better,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: even making amends to some wrestlers. I guess they were
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: mentioning Scott Steiner and seem Punk and you know, kind
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: kind of those bridges that everybody thought were burned aren't
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: really burned so much now that Triple H is in charge.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Longer pls and less matches. So before they would just
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I guess Vince had a formula of just filling the
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: card as much crap as possible, And now we get
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: a lot less matches, but a lot more quality and
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: longer matches, So no, like I guess we used to
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: talk about like what like four minute matches for the
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: women's Now they get like a good runtime of between
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: like eight to fifteen. Triple H got rid of the
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: twenty four to seven title, thank god. Nikki Cross was
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: the last champion to hold it. As soon as he
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: came into power Triple H wanted that title gone. I
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: guess when I guess Vince would change things on the
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: fly with the twenty four to seven title, and it
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: was very hard for them to write scripts for it.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Speak of scripts scripting the commentary team, and he used
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: to write scripts for all the commentators and screaming in
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: their ear. Well, now I guess Triple gives them a
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: lot more freedom and to be off the cuff and
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: be more natural h alienating international audiences, you know, I
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: guess we would only get a few times a year
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: that they would go overseas for certain pls back in
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: the day, and but now there they're out of states
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: a lot more often. They're just wrapping up that European
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: tour as we speak, a ban on independent bookings, I mean,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: for sure, like we never thought we would ever see
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: ww wrestlers show up in another company, like you know,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: TNA doing any kind of business mentioning of TNA even
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: or I think there was another company, Noah, I think
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Shinsky Knock Moore showed up over there. I mean, and
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: we still go, you know, roughly without mentioning the aw
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: but you know, mentioned a bunch of other companies. I
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: was just unheard of, sporadic booking. I guess we all
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: know that how Vince would sporadically change the script last
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: minute after it's been written.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Ah, Now they have long term storylines, storylines that pay
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: off after a year or a couple of months, long
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: term booking. Banned words. There's a lot of words they
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: weren't allowed to use, like yeah, yeah, right, there's a
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: lot of words they weren't allowed to use. They weren't
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: allowed to curse either. Oh we was speaking of I
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: got one, I got one.
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: Go fuck yourself?
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, uh yeah, bandwords breaking k fabe. Now, wrestlers break
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: k fabe all the time. I guess that was you know,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: obviously that was the thing Vince was not fond of
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: back then, was any wrestler breaking k fabe? Mass macro
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: micro management. That's very obvious between Promo's matches, everything that
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: was scripted. That was the biggest one on the list
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: was the mass micro management from Vince. Vince would always
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: be in somebody's ears, always changing things at the last minute.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: I feel like they didn't have a lot of freedom
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: as a wrestler.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you can see that.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: The most of Michael cole in his commentary, Yeah said
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: now that Vince would never let him say on the air.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Right, And like, when I went through this list, I
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: was like, you know what, I can see all this
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: stuff now that you know it's been you know, a year,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: it's going to be about a year since Triple H
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: has been you know, his storylines have been taken, you know,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: you know, he's since he's been fully charged more all
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: in power, I guess you would say. But yeah, I
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: thought I share that with you guys if you have
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: any input, yeah, you want to put in or anything else.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: You notice that Triple has changed for the good since
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Vince has left.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean there's a number of things that
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: he's done, like you know, like some of the things
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: you've touched on the long form storytelling continuity is another
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: thing that's kind of been big since Triple H's stepped in.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Is whereas Vince would seemingly just throw all that out
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: the window and just say we're gonna do this thing.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: And I think I saw a story where Kevin Owens
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: touched on this where he would have to say, like,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: you know, we can't do that. That makes no sense,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: and you know, you're insulting the audience's intelligence with this,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: like they watched they remember things, like they know that
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: three weeks ago I said YadA YadA, blazah blah, and
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Vince would just be like, Eh, they don't care, They're
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: not paid attention.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: We're going to do this.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Triple H is much more consistent with the continuity and
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: acting like you know, things that things that happened in
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: the past, fans remember, and you see that reflected a
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: lot in promos, even in some of the commentary that
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: the announcers do. You know, a lot of that is
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: not forgotten with Triple H and that much I for me,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Maya and I appreciate that part of it.
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: I think a lot of these things for.
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: They all well, they all have their good sides, some
• 39:42
  Speaker 8: of them their bad sides also, like and another thing
• 39:45
  Speaker 8: that Triple Edge has done, which I think has a
• 39:47
  Speaker 8: good end bad side, is like getting rid of all
• 39:49
  Speaker 8: the house show or most of the house shows.
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: Uh, it's good.
• 39:54
  Speaker 8: These guys get to go through and gals go through
• 39:56
  Speaker 8: less wear and tear on their bodies, which you know,
• 39:59
  Speaker 8: hopefully improves their lives after they're done wrestling and maybe
• 40:04
  Speaker 8: allows them to wrestle longer than they would have otherwise.
• 40:07
  Speaker 8: But you know, some of the smaller markets are missing
• 40:12
  Speaker 8: out because they're never going to.
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: Get chosen anymore. I think Drey said.
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: They haven't been there where his market in two years
• 40:20
  Speaker 8: or whatever, and nothing announced to come back anytime soon,
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: and that kind of stuff.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it seems like some of the best
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: things that Triple AH has done are in regards to
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: the product itself, whereas some of the yeah, I mean
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: like I things are more from a business aspect, Like it's.
• 40:45
  Speaker 8: Good that the pay per view matches are better, you know,
• 40:47
  Speaker 8: a better quality than they used to be. That's awesome,
• 40:50
  Speaker 8: But I think it's less awesome that there's fifteen minutes
• 40:53
  Speaker 8: of commercials between each one of them. Now, I mean, like,
• 40:57
  Speaker 8: so for every like, for every action, and there's an
• 41:00
  Speaker 8: equal and opposite reaction, right, So every good Triple H change,
• 41:04
  Speaker 8: there's a downside.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: I think, yep. And that's a perfect example.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Fewer matches, matches that we get are better, better quality downside,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: a lot more fluff and bullshit in between the matches,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I still think, and I still think they haven't found some.
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: Of the goofy stuff just we don't get much of it. Anymore,
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: at least not a pay per view. You know, I'm
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: struggling to think of an example.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: Off the top of my head, but the goofy stuff.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just like I mean, like their obligatory product placement
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: add and every show.
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: Like the comedy kind of match like the like the
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: Sammy's Day and Johnny Knox film match o.
• 41:46
  Speaker 7: That kind of.
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: Stuff we see. So when when they used to have
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: to fill a pay per view.
• 41:51
  Speaker 8: Card, but eight matches, so you're gonna get you know,
• 41:54
  Speaker 8: two goofballs, goofing it up for for eight minutes.
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: You know, I kind of miss A lot of people
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: call that a filler match or whatever. Not wrong, but
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: I like that kind of goofy shit. You know.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Another I heard that Triple as Done is like given
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: wrestlers more time off to be with family, especially during
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: the holidays. How they pre tape now for Christmas and stuff,
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: and before they they wouldn't do that. They like I
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: remember like during the holidays they would be like, oh,
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: we're having wrong on Christmas Eve. I like live. I'm like, why, like,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: let let these people go home like they're human beings
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, like, you know, Plus I'm not I don't
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: have time to watch Raw on Christmas Eve. I got
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: family shit to do, you know, especially if you were
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: like this year even you know we're talking about ticket sales.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: It's also Eastern Like not just that it's for a
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: twenty weekend. There's a festival. I'm going to be fucking missing,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: but you know there's it's also the holiday, like I
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: totally forgot. You know, it is Easter, Like there's gonna
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: be people have to travel. You know, some people have
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: to travel for you, sir. And that could totally mean
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: like we're not going to WrestleMania because we're just not
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: gonna make it, or we're not gonna make it night
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: one or night two or whatever. I'm already my family
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: already knows, Like listen, we're doing this ship early and
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: we're all leaving because some of us are gonna go
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: see WrestleMania. You know we're gonna watch it, like we got.
• 43:28
  Speaker 7: Shipped to do.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but what other reason are you gonna have RVD
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: on the show for?
• 43:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: I know, right, dude, that's very true.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Very technically.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: I think Matt Reynell could return.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: No, not bloody likely, yeah, not bloody likely.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And like and I've always been an advocate that
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: they should just take the last two weeks of the
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: year off anyway, because, like like you said, nobody pressed
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: about watching Raw on Christmas or New Year's. It's it's
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: the holiday season, it's time for the family and all stuff.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Let them do that.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: You can throw on some BS recab show or a
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: best of show and just yeah, let those guys go home, rest,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: be with their family, come back beginning of the year,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: hit the ground running road to wrestle media.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: I always thought that, yeah, like, why wouldn't you do
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: like a highlight reel of the year of you know
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: what I mean? Like, you have a year's basically a
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: year's worth of fucking material that a library that you
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: could just back up of, Like these are the highlights
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: of you know, this year. And I don't get it.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: You're you're right. This is why we're not in charge, gentlemen.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: This is why we're not in charge.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: But at least they kind of sort of do that now, which.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Is a good thing.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: They let them have that time off, and they have
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: enough of a roster that, barring injuries, a star take
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: time off, and that just creates an opportunity for somebody
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: else to fill in. Yep, somebody else who's stuck in catering. Okay,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: well you know what, Hey, Drew McIntyre's kicking a couple
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: of weeks off to go be with his family. All right,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: let's uh, let's call up you know, miss or Theory
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: or somebody. Put them in a storyline for a couple
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: of weeks, let them get some time on TV. Let
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: them get some TV time, and who knows, maybe you'll
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: get lucky and something might strike, something might connect.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, here's the prime example. Where the fuck is
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Sammy z Ain? Where the fuck's he been in the
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: past few weeks? He just takes time off, you know
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: what I mean? Like, some people just find a way.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: We have enough people on the roster that somebody like
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Sammy's Ain can quietly disappear. Nobody fucking notices.
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: Well, I think I even want to go back to
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: what Triple H versus Vince.
• 45:54
  Speaker 8: I think guys and gals have more assurances than they
• 45:58
  Speaker 8: used to. You know, if you take a couple of
• 46:01
  Speaker 8: weeks or a couple of months off, you will still
• 46:03
  Speaker 8: have a spot.
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: When you come back. And I think, I mean, you
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: hear the old timers talk like, ye know, we we've.
• 46:10
  Speaker 8: Went, We worked through injuries, and that's why they were
• 46:13
  Speaker 8: all addicted to drugs and shit, because if they were
• 46:14
  Speaker 8: afraid that if they took time off, somebody would take
• 46:17
  Speaker 8: their spot and then never get it back.
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Right, And now they have no problem with saying, hey,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: we ain't got nothing for you right now, go home,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: take it to the crib and kick chill out for
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: a while. Now, if it goes past, you know, three
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: four months and ain't got nothing for you, then you
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: might want to pick up the phone and be like,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: hey man, y'all, don't y'all don't need somebody for a
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: tag team match or something. Yeah, but a couple of weeks, Yeah,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: nobody's nobody's going to miss a beat if somebody is
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: sitting out a couple of weeks, Like I'm pretty sure
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: they told Sammy, like, hey man, you're gonna take this
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: year's Mania off. You've been cooking for us for the
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: last couple of years. You know, you got the main
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: event thirty nine with Ko, you got to win the title.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Love guns are in forty you know this year you
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: want to take some tima. I don't take it to
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: the crib. We'll link up what you have to wrestle media.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, that's true. That's true.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: For those dragons back to give freaking jay Us some
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: unnecessary ass pep talk that he don't need.
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: H m hm.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:26
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he either gives to Jay a pep talk or
• 47:29
  Speaker 8: he interferes in the Ko Randy match.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: He could yeah, he could still potentially pop up. I'd
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: rather him not be the one to give j a
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: pep talk. I still think it should be Roman, but
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: i mean, like I'm.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Looking at the card right now. Night one officially Night
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: one Orton and Ko. We also have Roman Reigns with
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Paul Haymon versus Punk versus Rollins Threat. Night two we
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: have Cody Rose versus Sina.
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: So far, we have these matches announced, but we don't
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: know the night so far, and that's Timmany Stratton versus
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Charlotte Gunther versus j USO EO Sky versus Bianca bell Air,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: AJ Styles versus Logan Paul.
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: No.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest, I'm kind of I'm kind of
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: intrigued by the AJ Styles Logan Paul, because I know
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: they can put on a good quality match. This is
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: gonna be the high energy match. I think this is
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: gonna be a I think it's gonna be a pretty
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: good one.
• 48:32
  Speaker 8: Yeah, they're gonna recreate something similar to like the Ricochet
• 48:38
  Speaker 8: Royal rumble spot where they did like mm hmming each
• 48:42
  Speaker 8: other across.
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: Then they're gonna cook up something along.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and aj Styles is the right man to do
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: it with him.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: It'll be It'll be the wrestlers match, the ones who
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: don't care much for the storyline. They just want to
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: see a good match, and Logan is shown he can
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: deliver or that easily, especially with someone when he's got
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: somebody like aj Styles to work with.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: I could see that one going on.
• 49:07
  Speaker 8: Surey, and they have the next couple of weeks to
• 49:09
  Speaker 8: just rehearse it and rehearse it, rehearse it.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: And really come up with something special. And I can
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: see that one going on night too.
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: And I believe Michaels sewn.
• 49:17
  Speaker 8: Michaels usually helps him out with all his matches Logan
• 49:20
  Speaker 8: Paul that is, so he's in good hands hopefully.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: I could easily see that being either like a late
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: night one match or a middle night too, maybe even
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: kicking off a night too. I could see it doing that,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: although I feel like Night two is probably going to
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: kick off with one of the women's title matches.
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: I think that's a good bet.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too.
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: I think Jay, I'm just gonna open open the whole thing.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: I still feel like that that's such that would be
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: so disrespectful.
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: I think I think opening the show is a big spot.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Opening Night two I think is a good spot. Opening
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: night one? What what open Night one for WrestleMania forty.
• 50:18
  Speaker 8: Seth Rollins and Drew McIntire Seth Rolands at that giant.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, that did open And I think the
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: most only thing that really was rememberable about that was
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Damien pries Cash. That was probably the biggest memorable thing
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: about that. I just don't I feel like in this
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: year's Maydia it would be so lost. And also that
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: was that match happened as a results.
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: Not wrong it was and Becky.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: Oh see you're right. Well, so so what.
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: Drew McIntire sets was night too?
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: That off night too. So yeah, so that that that
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: proves my point.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: We don't people don't really remember what kicks off the
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: first night. Like I said, Night two that I think
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: that one would be better because.
• 51:13
  Speaker 8: And I don't think they're gonna they're gonna put both
• 51:15
  Speaker 8: men's title matches in the same night.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: I don't think I wouldn't think so either.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: That's why I personally, I don't think it's going to
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: kick off either night, but I think it would be
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: especially bad for it to kick off night one because
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: that that.
• 51:32
  Speaker 8: Opening off the triple Threat, like that seems like a
• 51:36
  Speaker 8: shitty spot too.
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: And by the triple Threat, I mean they.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Seth Roman and punk before that more.
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: Like, hey, this isn't the main event. I feel like
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: that makes it stand out even worse.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: At this point, we've kind of they've kind of pretty
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: much established that it's we know it's not gonna main event,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: so we're not gonna get that visual that I was
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: talking about of Jay closing out the show is champion.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: So since that's not going to happen.
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: I think you get the whole weekend opening with that.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: To me, it's still a terrible spot to have it.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: And it'd be different if this was just a title
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: match that was from uh, like, what was it last year,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Seth rollins. I mean, I Drew won the Elimination Chamber
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: and got the challenge Seth.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: Yes, there's a and between the two.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Clearly, the Royal Rumble Winner is the more prestigious of
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: the title challengers of the two. It has the legacy,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: it has the moments, it's got the history behind it.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: If you're gonna take that and reduce that to just
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: kicking off Night one one, not only it's it diminishes
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: not just that world type weight championship, which is still
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: the number two. As much as they tried to elevate
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: it up. This further throws it down as being a
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: number two, and it diminishes the Royal Rumble Win and
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: that and what that has traditionally been as being that major,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: guaranteed title shot, big moment. It's like said, sorry, bad
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: enough that it doesn't get the main event of the night.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Now you're gonna reduce it just now you're gonna kick
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: off WrestleMania and then have your moment, and then the.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: Rest of the whole weekend happens.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: By the time we get to the end of night too,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: you've been and forgot all the hell way about that.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Even if Jay wins, it's gonna be reduced to almost
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: like it was the feel good moment, Like what like
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: what missing truth was last year? Winning the title. Hey,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: it's the feel good moment. Give everybody happy, make a smile, okay,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: by move on to the rest of the shit. Yeah,
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be uh and if and if you reduce that,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: then that could potentially that's a potential snowball effect of
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: what you could what could happen in the future for
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: that rold rumble win? Is it gonna feel as much
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: of a big deal next year that, oh, this person
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: won the world?
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: Rumble?
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: They're going on to WrestleMania, you know, like Michael Cole
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: I does it every year, screaming at the top of
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: his lungs.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: So is I run the roll? So's I running the rumble?
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: They're going on to WrestleMania. They're going on to WrestleMania. Yeah,
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: to open up Night one.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: What if I mean, maybe that's what this is being
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: set up for, because maybe what if it's not going
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: to be a special moment. What if Jay's not going
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: to win? Maybe that's why it's placed where it's at,
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: because it's it's just that special moment is not happening,
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: because if I think if it was, it would be
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: in the main event, right, the confetti falling from the ceiling,
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: the fucking music. The the oose is coming out and
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: fucking hugging them and whatever. And you know what I mean,
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Like that doesn't sound like an o to me, that
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: that sounds like an opener. Sounds like somebody who's going
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: to lose and we're just gonna move on to another
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: gunther win. I mean, am I crazy?
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: No, not at all. That would be extra That would
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: be extra fucked up.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: The fact that, Okay, not only are you going to
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: lose the main events spot, you're also not going to
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: win the title the only way that just.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: If that was happening, where's that where's the happening moment?
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: Where's the win for the fans?
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Because I think most of us are probably on the
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: side of Scene is probably gonna defeat Cody.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Right, But we don't always get that a little bit.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: I know, we don't. We don't always get everything we
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: want though.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm like certain Scene is gonna win, am I.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: And I am, But then again, I'm also like born
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: and more on the on the side of I don't
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: think jay UIs is gonna win it. I just think
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: where it's placed. I just don't like his whole dude,
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: like he botched one move and now that's his whole thing.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Like he's just gonna every week, he's what he's saying,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: trip and fall, he's just gonna.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: That's not really his whole thing.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: They just they extended it for the next weekend, made
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: a storyline out of it, and now.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: They've taken it to the next level. So I mean,
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: he hasn't had a botch since.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And even even when last week the slip that
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: was I could tell that was deliberate. When I saw it,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that was a deliberate slip that wasn't
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: like as soon as I saw I'm like, oh, they're
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: making a storyline out of this, and then sure enough
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: it played off backstage and then they just went ultra
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: violent this week. So I mean, it took him a
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: while to get there. If anything, this is probably the
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: one storyline that's benefited from having the later WrestleMania, because
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: they was treading to funk out some water for these
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, Like they didn't know what to do
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: with this storyline with all the time that they had,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: and now they finally settled on something that worked almost
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: by accident in a sense. But now that we were
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: finally here, so there's something to work with from that.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: If that all this translates into Jay losing again, where's
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: the win at this year WrestleMania, then, like, where's.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: The where's the win for the fan? Where's the win
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: for the good guy?
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Is this gonna be a WrestleMania that's Is this gonna
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: be like the dark WrestleMania strikes right, This is gonna
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: be the Empire strikes back of WrestleMania's where all the
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: good guys lose.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: That would be hey man, good guy infinity.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: They that'd be as.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: If the heels just sweep the ship out of WrestleMania.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: I fucking Charlotte Sina Gunter, I don't know who would
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: be considered the heel out of Roman and know.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: Or who would be the.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: Heel out of uh Bianca and eo let's Bianca like
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: legitimately huh, I said, Unfortunately you know the answer to
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: that one, right, Yeah, if they if they confirmed Bianca
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: turning Hill just because a bunch of fucking Euros booter, Yeah,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: fucking Logan A j Styles, that'd be ballsy as ship.
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: I could see a heel turn coming to that. The
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: other triple threat, the men's triple threat. I'm not going
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: to say who, though.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it would have to involve Paul Hayman somehow. Yeah, yeah,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: he has to turn on somebody.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: The favor I can see.
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: I can see the double.
• 58:55
  Speaker 8: I can see a single double or possibly even a
• 58:57
  Speaker 8: triple turn from Paul.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: Is this what you guys think the favor is? It's
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: it's basically Paul Hamon's services as his man, his uh
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: wise man.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: No, No, I don't think that either.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: I don't think plays a factor in Wrestlemate at all
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: this year. I think that's something they're just still bringing
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: up to keep it on people's mind, and they're still
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: gonna push that out down the line.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, can Paul Hammon have the ability after WrestleMania,
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: after Wrestleman, after the dust has cleared, right and we
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: have a new champion, after the storylines are finished, the
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: new season of wrestling starts. Can Paul Haman somehow get
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Punk a title shot? And if he does, he doesn't
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: make matches, he doesn't. But it's Paul Hamon, He's the
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: wise man. Can he do it? Can he do it?
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: And if he can?
• 59:58
  Speaker 8: I think something like that Roman would have to get
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 8: the belt back somehow.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I do.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: I think the.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: Favor is going to involve Roman in some capacity.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 8: Uh, because Roman was so happy that he thought that
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 8: Punk was already using the favor, and if and when
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 8: Punk was going to Roman reigns and saying, uh, you
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 8: know how I always say the one time when I said, uh,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 8: watch the Three Stooges, but only watch Larry watch that segment,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 8: but only watch Paul Haman because when when Punk was like, oh,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 8: I'm going to acknowledge you Roman or whatever, Hayman's back
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 8: there going nope, don't do it, at least shaking his head.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no no. So something's going on there.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: What exactly?
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: I'm not so sure the favorite is going to involve
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: Roman in some capacity.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I could see that happening. There's some
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: sort of favor between involving them too in some way,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: shape or form. But I do think it's something that
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: they're keeping in their back pocket until they need it.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: They may have they may have.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: A long term story planned out already and this is
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: just you know, small steps along that path that we
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: can't fully see yet. Or this could be again, something
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: that they're just holding on to until the right moment.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: See, But I feel like if they were gonna hold
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: on to ituntil the right moment, they wouldn't mention it
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: at all. And then you know, months or weeks go
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: by and then he goes, oh, remember that favor you
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: But they keep bringing up.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: That's me because I think they don't want people to
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: run it.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: But I don't know what the hell they're gonna do it.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they don't want people to forget about it.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: Also part of it is they don't want people to
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: forget about it. Part of it is also playing the
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: fans because the fans keep bringing up the favor. The
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: fans keep speculating, Oh, what's the favorite? What's the favor?
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Is the favor gonna be this, It's gonna be that,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be this.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: So they're just.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Stringing the fans along, like, Okay, y'all want to keep
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: talking about the favor, Fine, we're gonna do this, YadA.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: YadA, This ain't the favor. Oh shit, man, this ain't
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: the favorit what's the favor? What's the favorite?
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: It keeps fans talking about this thing until they actually decide,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: now we're gonna use the favor.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: And it's like, there's no like time limit on this favor.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: It's not like a like a briefcase.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: That's cash, so it's not like the money of bank briefcase.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, there's no time this could be. We could
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: be talking Summer Slam, you know, like, but I don't
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: think so. I I just think, uh. I think it
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: has to do with whatever happens after WrestleMania, after the
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: dust clears and after new titles have been given to
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: new wrestlers. And I don't know it tickles my fancy,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: you know, tickles my fancy does.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I mean, there's no telling where Paul, although
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: I do think mm hmm. I do think after WrestleMania,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: I do think the relationship one way or the other,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: the relationship between Paul Hayman and Roman Wignes is going
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: to come to an end. Whether that involves Paul Hayman
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: turning on Roman and betraying him, right and mean, Paul
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: Hayman could turn on Roman and betray him, and they
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: could and then have nothing to do with Punk or Roman,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: I mean or Seth.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: He could betray Roman to turn on him just to.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Break away from him and then end up siding with
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: someone else, like and again just throwing it out there,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: what if he turns on.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: Punk and Roman?
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: When he turns on Roman, betrays him, costs Roman to match,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: disappears and we think, oh shit, you know, doesn't help
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: see him. Punk doesn't help seth rollins And then and
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: that's night one, and then Night two have and we're
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: in the main event Seena and Cody and Paul Haymen
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: comes back out and somehow helps John Cena win. And
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: now John Cena is a Paul Haymen guy.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: You know what, you're letting speculation become expectation.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Because we know John Cena is still gonna be relatively
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: part time for a good chunt, probably after wrestlemedia.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and if he ends up.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: Becoming champion, somebody's gonna have to be a mouth he's
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: or somebody's gonna have to be keeping this thing relevant
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: while Seena is off doing his Hollywood thing or whatever
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: with the belt and not being a title and not
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: being on air week from week, and they're not gonna
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: let that that the w W Championship just sit here
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: and just you know, get lost in the win the
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: way Logan Paul was with the US title where he
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: just had it and it was just you know, pretty
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: much just a show piece for him on you know,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: media appearances. This is the WWE Championship. It's got to
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: stay relevant in some way, shape or form if Sceena's
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: not on TV. What better way to do that than
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: with Paul Hayman as his mouthpiece in the same way
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: for him, the way that he was for Roman Reigns
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: when Roman was part time ended up but still had
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: Paul out there week after week. What if Paul's doing
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: that for Sina And maybe that's and seeing Punk could
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: call in his favor, and that's how we end up
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: getting Sena versus Punk one last time.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: I do think.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: I do think that when Sina wins the title, I
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: think his first challenger is going to be Randy Orton,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: and that's how we're gonna get Sena versus Orton won
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: last time. And I mean hospilities to just thrown it
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: out there.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: No, No, I think you're ones because I had a
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: crazy theory and I think it's kind of twiny with
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: yours because mine was like, how also, how do we
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: get to Punk versus Sina one last time? But it's
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: gonna be a little different. Back in twenty eleven, right
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: see him Punk won the WW title and he took
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: it with him. He left, He left the company. What
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: if John Cena wins the title and then just takes
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: it and leaves and just leaves with it because he
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: told us the other week I am going to ruin wrestling.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: And when he said that, shit, I was like, how
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: can you ruin wrestling? Take that title? Take that This
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: week he called it a fucking toy. Take that toy,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: take it with you. And John Cena disappears, right, Johnston
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: disappears for about two weeks, and we're like, okay, we
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: need a title. We need to put it. We had
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: this issue before. They were like we needed a title,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: so they they had a vacated WW title tournament of
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: some kind. We could hold the same type of the
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: same type of tournament. This time Sampunk wins it. Sampunk
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: is now the w W champion. Right come Summer Slam
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: toward you know, closer to Summer Slam, Johnsena returns. You
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: know I'm the real champ. You know, No, you went
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: to Hollywood and you you know, you went and did
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: your ship because like you're not the champion or you
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: walked out, you retired, he was, but I'm still the champ.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: And that's how we get you know, two ww titles,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: and we get you know, Punk versus John Cena, but
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: this time the roles are reversed. You know, one's retired
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: and you know now seen as the heel and Punks
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: the face. You could I mean, I was just like
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: speculation becoming expectation, getting super excited. You know, Oh we
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: could do it. It's all there, the pieces.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: Are there, but it's interesting and there's potential for that.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: The only things that I think work against that theory
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: is one, we know Sina is in the middle of
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: his final year, so he could sit there and say
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: I'm going home, I'm retiring, but we know he still
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: has dates on the left on this year, so he'll
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: be back. So we know that the second he says
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: that it's not true. Two the Two Belts thing has
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: been done by w w W and was just done
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: by seeing Punk in AW. I don't know that Paul
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: is gonna want to be, you know, fishing out of
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: the aw waters for storylines.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: Also, why would the Rock allow his champion to be stripped.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: Of the title.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: Also that, yeah, there's still the Rock factor, which has
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: not played in at all and yet into the storyline,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: which I think has to factor in at some point
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: before WrestleMania.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: We got three smackdowns and two raws.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 8: I think, right, we're gonna I don't think we have
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 8: to see the Rock on at least one of.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: Them, Yeah, because I mean they just gave us especially
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: not advertised for anymore, but nothing, yeah, nothing else to WrestleMania,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: and they just gave us probably the best segment we've
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: had in this feud since you know, seeing a turn heel,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: and now we're supposed to just what seen is supposed
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, Cody's just supposed to come out there and
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: just cut promos, dumping on seeing it for the next
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: three weeks into WrestleMania. We're just gonna coast into WrestleMania
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: that way. That's not really a good way to keep
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: the momentum going. So I think at least, if not
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: all not maybe not all three weeks, but at least
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: one of these weeks or two, the Rock has to
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: appear and interact with have some sort of interaction with Cody.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: Doesn't have to be physical, but that that that part
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: the storyline has to be has the factor rent or
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: would be explored upon further.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: You know, I had also.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 8: See we can also see social media videos from seeing
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 8: like The Rock does, or The Rock for that matter.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 8: Like one of the best promos of the year last
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 8: year was The Rock just dumping all over seth Rawlins
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 8: for like fifteen minutes on Instagram.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: Uh yeah, it was a you're involvement in that way?
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, And but and that could be it.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if he's not on TV, they could he could
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: do a thing on I G explaining you know his
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: thatf like, you know, I gave you the chance, Cody,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: you had the opportunity.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: You could have been my guy.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: You turned it down, and so I turned to someone
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: else and YadA, YadA.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm just saying, if they're not, if they're not
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 8: or can't be there physically for whatever reason.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Definitely, like I said, something has to be something has
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: to play into this. Hell that could even if what
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: if the Rock convinces is the one who convinces Paul
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: to turn on Roman, And that's something that doesn't get
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: revealed now, but maybe down the line we find out
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: later that's why Roman, I mean, that's why Paul Hayman
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: turned on Roman inside it with Sina, you know, while
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: the Roman's still reeling from this and wondering, you know, Paul,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: why did you turn on me?
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: Why'd you tell me? Months later?
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: Or maybe you know, next year we find out the
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: Rock comes out he turned on you because of me,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: because I told him to turn on you. I told
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: him to turn your back on you. Boom Rock versus Roman.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. That could play out. It's a whole
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: that's long term booking right there.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: Mm hmmmm, makes too much damn sense. Why am I
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: not on the fucking pay roll? Fucking Mark?
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: Well, you're lucky I played that one and not this one.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 10: But you're also a piece of ship.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: Let's get into that gets the cuss.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: I know, I don't get it. I want to break
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: down this this uh John Cena, Cody Rhodes uh promo
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: this week. It was actually pretty good. We got we
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: got him to exchange a good amount of words between
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: each other.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: Basically they were they were cooking each other sae. Yeah,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: absolutely this one.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: At the end of the year for the Slammies.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: John Cena came in with bringing up that he's not
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: just going to bury him he's He's buried many other superstar.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: I don't bury talent. I am talent. I bury mediocrity.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: And it's true because over the years there was a
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: lot of mentioning. I've seen it, just burying talent after
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: talent after talent. And for him to like bring this
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: up is actually fucking great. You refer to Cody as
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: his chauffeur, you know, carrying that belt around for him,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: you know, basically keeping it warm, talking about is leezy gimmick.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: You know how how it's like a bunch of I
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: guess you take take some of your best qualities of
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: your favorite TV shows and movies and superstars and molding
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: them all into one blob of a character. And then
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: then you get Cody Rhodes. Well, he makes some good points,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: John Cena. He goes you strip away the music and
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: you strip away the entrance, and what you have just
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: a generic gimmick. And I was like, yeah, I cuse like,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: if Cody Rhads would have came back to the company
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: in his old theme music and his old gimmick, I
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: don't know if I would have popped as much as
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: I would have when he came out to his you know,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: current theme music, and then Cody gets to exchange some
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: few words. Here he brings up the fact that he
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: mentions his you know what we're gonna talk about, you know,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about my lisp here we talked about
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: my arm tattoo that's on my neck, you know. He
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: mentions that rabbit. Yeah, he mentions, uh, you know, failing
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: in a company that he created. But he does bring
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: up you know, uh, the the one guy in the
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: office who chose you, John is we can no longer
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: talk about him.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a line, like you weren't chosen by
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: the fans, you were chosen by a guy in an
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: office who's no longer here we.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: Talk about Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: Like they was throwing bombs at each other. Yeah, there
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: was some embeusement. Yeah, there was some stretching of the
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: truth a bit, but they were throwing there was also
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: some elements of reality in there, and they was throwing windy.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: Cody Saint John, you are a company creation. Uh, He goes,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: it's more dick in this promo or more dick in
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: that promo than you do in your jeorts mentions how
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: you know you want to be like a sixteen year old,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: so that's what you hang out with guys like zac Efron.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: I didn't really understand that joke, but uh, he's mentioned
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: that you're the one who sold out to the Rock
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: and then he just you know, gives this infamous line
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: now for him.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 10: But you're also a piece of ship, which.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: I kind of liked when he said that. I was like, oh,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: that's kind fine because he look at Seeney's reaction and
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: look like Sina was trying to hold in a fucking smile,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: like like, I guess he didn't know that was coming. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: He also hit him with the line like the fans
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: have never told me you can't wrestle.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Sina makes one last you know, come back.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: You know he talks about you know, he makes garbage.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: All everything that's been thrown at him since day one,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: all this garbage has been thrown. He makes it look great.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: In the ring.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: He goes, I don't make He goes, I make empires
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: for billionaires and all you have ever done with steel
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: money and he's walking out of the ring and I
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: thought that was and then and then Cody comes back
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: with at least I never had people chant you can't.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: Wrestle Yeah, that was ain't hit as hard as seeing
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: his line right there.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's a fucking bar.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think seen his delivery was good because he's
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: gonna see a wrestleta champ. They should have played even
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: nice that they would have played his music. But then
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: the one thing I didn't want was them to to
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: get hands on each other.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: It didn't need to happen that promo did not need
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: it at all, did not And because the way they
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: was throwing haymaking, they were they threw enough haymakers at
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: each other on the mic. We did not need to
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: see a lasting image of seeing a laid out in
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: the ring and Cody's standing over him one because of one,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: because of the old you know, superstition up. You know,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: whoever gets the upper hand in the final exchange is
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: the motherfucker that's gonna lose. Yeah, they could have just
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: let them just talk, have that interaction on the mic,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: and let that be the last thing that happens last,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: the interaction that they have before WrestleMania.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true. They touch hands. I was like,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: damn it, damn it, damn it. But yeah, I was like, oh,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: it's got the upper hand. I saw like all of
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: the internet like his title for sure.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean it's well documented throughout history. Yeah,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: big match.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: Whoever gets the up, whoever's the last one to get
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: the upper hand loses?
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 5: Did we Also?
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: Isn't there one two with involving ladder matches when wrestlers
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: would climb to the top of a ladder before the.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: Match and would lose.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some wrestling super It's.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 5: Like a superstition.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: Somebody would have to do the research on that one.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 5: Somebody do a study on.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: That, but I wouldn't rule that out as being at
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: least partially true or true for a certain period of time.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very true. Yeah, I mean, dude, that was
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: great promo. Great great promo. If anybody here hasn't heard it,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: go check it out on YouTube. It's pretty lengthy because
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: it's the chance that make it lengthy. You get, you
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: do get more Cody chants over Sena, but Scena did
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: get a lot. The reactions were great with the fans,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: you know, it was overall, it was really good. It's
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: it's it was nice see Sina cook somebody without having
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: to wrap you know, like uh, and he kind of
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: anything is like seen that kind of held back still
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: because like I've seen him. Do you guys remember his
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: most recent uh feud with Roman Reigns when he lost
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: to Roman. How he just cooked him on the mic?
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: You know basically like you know, if if you were
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: better at these pro skills, I wouldn't have to be
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: here or something, you know, like he's when when Sina
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: wants to, he'll cook you.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like seeing no question seen.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: It is one of the best on the mic, especially
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: in that back and when that comes to that back
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: and forth interaction. There's very few people, if any, who
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: have gotten the better of Sina in the ring face
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: to face promo exchange, right, very few, especially when he
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: decides he wants to go hard, because I mean he
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: cooked cooked, He went hard at Cody this time. He's
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: cooked Roman in the past. He cooked the Rock in
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: the past. You know, I don't have to have my Yeah,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: I don't have to have my my promo written on
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: my arm like he.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: Fucking murdered Rock with that one. Yeah, I my notes
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: are written on my arm or something whatever.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: He said that that was a nice long so when
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: we had that year and they would take these little
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: jabs at each other, either on social media or something,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: and it was nice. It played out for a whole
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: year because I remember going a year. I gotta wait,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: a whole fucking year. But they kept it interesting and
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: whenever they would meet and maybe they talk shit. You know.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: I remember The Rock having like a kid on the
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: kids wearing like a John Cena shirt and he's telling
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: them all about fruity pebbles and then he just smacks
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: the hat off his head or some ship, like, oh man, yeah,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: you can't me, Yeah, you can't see me wearing shirt.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: The Rock started the whole fruity Pebbles thing with about
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: John Cena.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: Yo, yep, yep.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: So I mean that's all I got today, news wise.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know what else do you guys, topics you
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: want to talk about? Doyle? Is anything else you want
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: to talk about?
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 5: No, I think you're pretty much covered it all.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're like, uh, still got like what two more weeks?
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: Wait?
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: Still a bit, still a bit, three weeks, two raws,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: three smack Down. Yeah, maybe I'll put a bracket together
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: for next week or something something interesting. Maybe we'll fit
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: another episode in before our predictions because it's it's it's
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: not well, let me say we yes, it's really not
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: that far away. We're yeah, we're twenty days away.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean the only thing that's really left
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: to wonder at this point is are any more matches
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: going to get announced?
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 3: Oy?
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 7: I don't.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we only have a handful of announced matches.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 8: I mean, obviously I expect Ria to be officially added
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 8: to that.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 5: Uh EO match. I think we're gonna get.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 8: An icy title match, probably four way, I think, and
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 8: with Pan, Demon Breaker, Finn and Dom.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, right now we've got but seven matches.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, then it'll probably be seven.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: More, dude Dom winning the IC title seven more.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know, you think thinking about how much they've
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: cut back on matches in PLS. Granted, this is WrestleMania
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: and it's two nights, but.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 5: Or maybe six, I mean six and seven.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: Also, I think I wouldn't be surprised if we go
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: five and maybe six out of these seven. I could
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: see maybe four more matches getting potentially announced. Maybe Jade
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: versus Naomi makes it to WrestleMania.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 5: Some kind of tag teams.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: Some sort of yes, some sort of tag team match,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: where there's the probably the WWE Tag team titles, since
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: that seems to be the hotter of the two divisions
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: right now, Like World Tag Team tamp division is virtually dead.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: I just remember this past Money War Raiders were still
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: the fucking were the Roll Attack champions. So nothing's really
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: happening on that front. Intercontinental title, Yeah, we're probably gonna
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: see a match that's almost certainly one that would put
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: us at eight and leave us like four matches each night.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: I think we're probably we're probably gonna get like five.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: And five each night.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: I think there's maybe three more matches to be announced,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: maybe Jade Naomi World Tag I mean ww tag title
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: and probably the inter Continental title. US title is probably
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: gonna be out this year. Uh, both women's card titles
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: are definitely out. World at Tag title definitely out.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: That's a SmackDown and uh we're all after many a
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: kind of matches.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 8: I mean, youn't even live off your WrestleMania cards.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, probably no live.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: They'll probably have maybe a women's tag team title match
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: on like Raw SmackDown going into it.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: What about the Andres Giant Battle Royal, But.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: That goddamn Battle Oil.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: I forgot about that thing. I did we even know.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: We didn't have it last year.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: We haven't had that thing in a while.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's one of the things fuckingles probably
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: got rid of.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, ain't no, God, it was just a lazy way
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: to get a bunch of people on the car.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: Let me think.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe if they get for them to get a
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: wrestled me in the check okay, cool.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: Nice. But other than that, I think.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: Jay Uso is actually the last person to win it.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 5: Uh, he definitely want it. I don't know if he
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 5: was the last person to win it.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: This is the last one I can remember winning it,
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: that's for damn sure. I can't remember anybody else fucking
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: winning it as a recent unless they didn't carry the
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: statue around every fucking week. But yeah, man, that's all
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: I got. I don't know if you guys, Dolila, do
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: you want to plug anything?
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 8: No, just say you can find me in the Discord
• 1:26:12
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• 1:26:16
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• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: We'll find us in the Discord talk chopping it up
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: every week.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. We will be kidding off of Skype soon.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: I just saw there's a thing I get. We got
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: till May, so after that we'll be doing everything through Discord.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: So if you want to be on the show, you're
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: gonna have to go through Discord. So get a hold
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: of us on one of the social media's and we'll
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: send you the Discord blink. Get in talk wrestling all
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: day every day so I can send memes during the
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: day while I'm at work. It's fun, all right until
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: next Upsode Fellas.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 10: All right, but you're also a piece of shit.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: You are the world's dumbest sign up a bit.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 11: The fact that day in and day out for almost
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 11: six years I improved everybody in the world that I
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 11: am the best on this microphone and in that break
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 11: and given a commentary, nobody can touch me.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: You are not plenty far God, it's because the street
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: Puppet and we watch the stuff you're yes.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 10: Talk about your songs, talk about.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 11: John three sixteen, Homstead three sixteen.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 10: Says, I just whipped your ass. Well, let me tell
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 10: you something, brother, far.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 4: New game, Queen raised to the top all year, my
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 4: true madness year.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 10: Welcome to the Top and Owen Show. Lately he just
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 10: hasn't been Harry Lucy.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: Because I know that.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 5: And i'm.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 10: Ah those rotten bastes bye bye.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: It's