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Patriots Catch-22 3/5: 3 Up/Down from the NFL Combine, Free Agency Preview, League Moves · Patriots Catch-22

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  Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan
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  Speaker 1: Lazar and Alex bar Blazar and Lazarre. Everybody nailed it,
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  Speaker 1: and Alex Bars.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta tell you after two and a half days
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  Speaker 2: at the combine, those reason are a lot harder.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell a half days combine I could use when
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  Speaker 1: I was comfortable, Like couches, they're a lot harder to
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  Speaker 1: do to put my feet up.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of what is us right like we had
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  Speaker 2: to You know, you probably need it telling me I
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  Speaker 2: playing a completely shaved for the first time, for which
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  Speaker 2: I didn't want to do.
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  Speaker 1: My trim broke and now everybody's seeing what.
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  Speaker 3: Was under there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I needed the steps.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, my voice last week I did not.
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  Speaker 1: I knew it was a little shot.
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  Speaker 2: I knew there was a little bit of raspiness going
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  Speaker 2: on there.
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  Speaker 1: But here in that back and I I was maybe
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  Speaker 1: because you're worn out from doing so much podcasting, right.
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  Speaker 2: I warned, it is exactly exactly. Well, we're back, We're
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  Speaker 2: back back, We're back from the Combine. We're in the
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  Speaker 2: studio again. Feels good to be back at and at
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  Speaker 2: home after a week at the Combine. Never complained about
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  Speaker 2: the Combine. Love the Combine. It's my my favorite event
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  Speaker 2: of the year, my favorite trip of the year to
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  Speaker 2: go to Indianapolis. I was a little disappointed though, that
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  Speaker 2: I didn't get to Prime forty seven for dinner later
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  Speaker 2: in the week. Did Elmos didn't do Prime forty seven?
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  Speaker 2: That was a little disappointing. You got a stake, but
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  Speaker 2: Thursday night, you know, the workouts ran late, and it
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  Speaker 2: just didn't line up for me to be to end
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  Speaker 2: up there this year.
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  Speaker 1: But you got some shrimp cocktail. Did.
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  Speaker 2: I watched it happen your first experience. You didn't know
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  Speaker 2: what you were getting yourself into. I handled it fine,
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  Speaker 2: You handled it fine, But I did tell you that
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  Speaker 2: it's got a kick.
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  Speaker 1: It comes it, does it? Does it? Uh? I found
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  Speaker 1: out that there's like because I tell my buddy about it.
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  Speaker 1: There is no way it's like that. So I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if it's the same when you buy it in
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  Speaker 1: the store. But I found out they sell bottles of
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  Speaker 1: it in the store, so they do. To make my
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  Speaker 1: buddy try it. They do.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's the same personally for experience, but
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  Speaker 2: that's it.
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  Speaker 1: Tastes the same. It just has to be as hot.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to make him feel how hot it is.
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  Speaker 2: Everything like that is the same when you when you
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  Speaker 2: put it into you know, the supermarkets and stuff. But anyways,
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  Speaker 2: I digress. That's that's a little two minutes of what
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  Speaker 2: when when What went on at the Combine post Wednesday
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  Speaker 2: Catch twenty two last week. So yeah, that was a
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  Speaker 2: fun week and we had a fun time. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: recap or post mortem here the Combine a little bit
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  Speaker 2: at the beginning of the show. I know everybody is
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  Speaker 2: eager for the start of free agency next week, so
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  Speaker 2: a lot of free agency talk. We do plan on
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  Speaker 2: talking plenty of free agency. But before we do that,
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  Speaker 2: I do want to have I do have some last takes,
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  Speaker 2: you know, leftover takes from the Combine, as I know
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  Speaker 2: you do as well. So before we get truly rolling.
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  Speaker 2: New England Patriots. All right, I want to start with
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  Speaker 2: an opening dike, and then we're gonna do three up,
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  Speaker 2: three down combine style too. So we're gonna we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: go both give an opening take, how about that? And
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  Speaker 2: then we have three up, three down combine style. So
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  Speaker 2: just like we do it in season to recap the
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  Speaker 2: Patriots last game, we'll do it for the combined workouts,
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  Speaker 2: the winners and losers, ups, downs, whatever you want to
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  Speaker 2: call it. But my big opening take or take away
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  Speaker 2: I should say from the combine last week is that
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  Speaker 2: this is not the draft that you want to be
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  Speaker 2: stuck reaching for need. This is not the draft for that, right.
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  Speaker 2: This is a draft that has a few really really
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  Speaker 2: strong positions. I think we've all heard those by now.
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  Speaker 2: Defensive line, running back, tight end. I think interior offensive
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  Speaker 2: line is pretty good too, especially when you project all
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  Speaker 2: the tackles that are going to have to move inside
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  Speaker 2: to interior offensive line. It's a strong class. Those three
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  Speaker 2: positions are three and a half. If you want to
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  Speaker 2: include the guards and the centers, that's the strength of
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  Speaker 2: the draft. And I think if you have to color
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  Speaker 2: outside the lines, if you need a top ten left tackle,
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  Speaker 2: if you need a top ten wide receiver, if you
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  Speaker 2: need any of those types of things, I think that
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  Speaker 2: you're in trouble. Not saying that you can't have other options.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying I think that you would be reaching
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  Speaker 2: on a lot of those players, let's say four overall.
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  Speaker 2: I would also say the same thing about rounds two
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  Speaker 2: through seven of this draft, though. You want to be
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  Speaker 2: in a position as a football team where you can
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  Speaker 2: really hit and lean into the strength of this draft,
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  Speaker 2: which is undoubtedly the positions that I just named. So
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  Speaker 2: I was blown away by the running back workouts, which
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  Speaker 2: I know is it might surprise you a little bit, definitely,
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  Speaker 2: But sitting there on Saturday watching, you know, okay, next
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  Speaker 2: guy five eleven, two hundred and twenty pounds four to four,
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  Speaker 2: next guy, you know, five eleven, two hundred and twenty pounds,
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  Speaker 2: four to four, It's like this is crazy, right. So
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  Speaker 2: there's plenty of running backs in this draft. There's a
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  Speaker 2: slew of edge rushers and defensive linemen. So my big
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  Speaker 2: takeaway for the Patriots is that you need to approach
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  Speaker 2: free agency to fill some needs that are not available
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  Speaker 2: to you in the draft, looking specifically at offensive tackle
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  Speaker 2: and wide receiver from a Patriots.
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  Speaker 1: Prism, because what I would do is sign up a.
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  Speaker 2: Couple of offensive tackles that you think starting caliber, go
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  Speaker 2: after a big fish in the wide receiver market, and
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  Speaker 2: then hammer front seven in the draft. Right, you can
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  Speaker 2: find all these front seven guys. You can find defensive
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  Speaker 2: linemen in the first three rounds of the draft that
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  Speaker 2: are gonna come in and make a big impact for you.
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  Speaker 1: So that was my big takeaway.
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  Speaker 2: I think that if you get stuck in a position
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  Speaker 2: kind of like the Patriots were in last year, you
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  Speaker 2: are going to be reaching on players at certain positions
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  Speaker 2: by and leaving maybe half a dozen higher graded players
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  Speaker 2: on your board because you need to tackle right and
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to be in that position.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's why, And that leads perfectly into my take,
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  Speaker 1: Like we'll get to free agency later in the show.
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  Speaker 1: I want to give Matt dollf credit for half of
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  Speaker 1: this take because it was a really good point. By him.
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  Speaker 1: He called Ronnie Stanley and to a lesser extent, Cam
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  Speaker 1: Robinson the lynch pin of the Patriots offseason because if
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  Speaker 1: you can sign one of those guys and check the
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  Speaker 1: box at left tackle, and those are probably the only
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  Speaker 1: two guys that definitively check that box right. They do
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  Speaker 1: it to varying degrees, but I think you feel good
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  Speaker 1: about them. It frees you up to have a lot
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  Speaker 1: more flexibility, both in free agency, in the draft, and
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to the draft coming away from the combine.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that any of these players are bad players,
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  Speaker 1: but let's say Travis Hunter goes before for right, You're
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  Speaker 1: you're you're facing a major question with a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the guys we've talked about, Will Campbell, arm length, Mason Graham, undersized,
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  Speaker 1: Will Johnson coming off a significant injury, didn't play last year.
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  Speaker 1: Tat McMillan, you're worried about speed and explosiveness. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: small offensive lineman, small defensive lineman, slow receiver, kind of
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  Speaker 1: unknown corner. So I'm gonna add, like, let's say Travis
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  Speaker 1: Hunter goes right and they have less tackle left tackle. Answered,
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  Speaker 1: knowing what we know now, Evan who is the best
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  Speaker 1: player on the board. If Travis Hunter is gone? Who
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  Speaker 1: is the best player? I don't know. I don't like
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  Speaker 1: how where you're going with. So all right, what you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna say? Okay, so no, I'm gonna say something that
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  Speaker 1: you're not gonna like and then we couch it with
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  Speaker 1: something that is my real question to you, the best
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  Speaker 1: player on the board after Travis Hunter is ashing. That's
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  Speaker 1: pretty clear at this point. Now, listen, they probably shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be taking a running back and forth. Okay, so I
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  Speaker 1: will give you that. We're gonna, We're gonna and this
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  Speaker 1: is me saying this, We're gonna put running back aside
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  Speaker 1: because of the positional value. So we're doing that. Who's
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  Speaker 1: the best player on board? Will Campbell more so than so?
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  Speaker 1: What I was gonna say is Tyler Warren. I think
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Warren and now he's an older prospect, he has
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  Speaker 1: those questions too, But for a team that kind of
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  Speaker 1: needs to hit on on a guy. The thing about
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  Speaker 1: the older prospects, so they're generally high floor, lower ceiling.
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  Speaker 1: Should we be and I'm not this is not me
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  Speaker 1: going to the table saying he is the pick, but
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  Speaker 1: should we be talking about to a lesser extent Ashton
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  Speaker 1: Genty really to a greater extent, Tyler Warren. Should we
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  Speaker 1: be talking more about Tyler Warren for the Patriots at
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  Speaker 1: four coming away from the Combine? I think he's maybe
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  Speaker 1: assuming they have the free agency we think they're gonna have,
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  Speaker 1: and they address left tackle, and they address at least
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  Speaker 1: get at least one defensive lineman, should we be talking
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  Speaker 1: more about Tyler Warren for the than we are right now? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's a fair point.
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  Speaker 2: And I think Tyler Warren has been on both of
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  Speaker 2: our short lists for that first round pick, whether it's
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  Speaker 2: in a trade down scenario. You know, I put out
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  Speaker 2: that tiers list before the Combine, and he was certainly
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  Speaker 2: on there, pretty high. I find I'm not mistaken, like
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  Speaker 2: five or six on that list, you know, behind Abdul Carter,
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  Speaker 2: behind Travis Hunter, behind Campbell, behind Mason Graham. I think
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  Speaker 2: he was five on my list, behind those four guys.
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  Speaker 1: Only.
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  Speaker 2: The question that you have to ask with a guy
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  Speaker 2: like Tyler Warren is can you build your offense around
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  Speaker 2: Tyler Warren? Is he going to be one to one?
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  Speaker 2: You know in terms of your wide receiver pass catcher
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  Speaker 2: depth chart, where like you are running a tight end
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  Speaker 2: centric offense a lah the Gronkowski Patriots, the Kelsey Chiefs.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if you.
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  Speaker 2: Want to throw like Mark Andrews in his prime with Baltimore,
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  Speaker 2: like that is the offense that you're going to have
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  Speaker 2: to run. And do you think that he has the
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  Speaker 2: ceiling to be able to carry that? And I think
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  Speaker 2: that's the question that I have.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm not ready to say that one hundred percent,
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  Speaker 1: but I think he has the tools to get there
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  Speaker 1: because of how much he can do, because of all
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  Speaker 1: the different places he can line up and win from
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  Speaker 1: those different places. I don't think he's ever going to
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  Speaker 1: be a home run hitter, but I think his ability
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  Speaker 1: to consistently move the sticks and get open in all
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  Speaker 1: these different ways, and the way you can use him
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  Speaker 1: to hunt mismatches. He's a guy. You're not gonna build
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  Speaker 1: it around him the way you would build it around
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  Speaker 1: T Higgins or a DK Metcalfit's so you look different,
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  Speaker 1: but I think you can build it around it. But
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  Speaker 1: it just gets back to the point again where and
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  Speaker 1: I don't maybe I throw Tet McMillan to this, we
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  Speaker 1: kind of shut it down talking about him at four
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  Speaker 1: leading into the combine, should we talk more about tet McMillan.
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  Speaker 1: For I guess really what this take is, big picture
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  Speaker 1: is you know, I kind of said going into the
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  Speaker 1: combine last week, it was looking to me as simple
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  Speaker 1: as like, here was the flowchart. Is Travis Hunter on
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  Speaker 1: the board? Yes? Take him?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 1: Will Campbell boom? It was as simple as that. I
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  Speaker 1: know longer think it's that simple. I think we are
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  Speaker 1: wide open in the conversation once again for the fourth
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  Speaker 1: overall pick, especially if they sign a tackle, if they
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  Speaker 1: don't have a left tackle, you know, there's a case
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  Speaker 1: to be and that just reminds me of somebody else
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  Speaker 1: I'll get to in a second. You know, that kind
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  Speaker 1: of makes the case for you got to maybe force
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  Speaker 1: it attackle a little bit. But I'm curious you say
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  Speaker 1: you would still take Campbell. So in this I said,
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  Speaker 1: in this scenario, ask me who the best player available was. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so not who you would take? Yeah, okay, he would
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  Speaker 1: have for me, he would have the highest grade on
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  Speaker 1: so but all right, but let's say this. Let's say
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  Speaker 1: they signed Ronnie Stanley, yeah, and it's Hunter's gone. Would
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  Speaker 1: you draft Campbell as a guard for because he's the
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  Speaker 1: best player there. No, okay, but we we look at it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying we agree on this point.
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  Speaker 2: Like we are not big and I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: speak for you, but I feel like I can here,
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  Speaker 2: like we're not big best player available without any caveats,
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  Speaker 2: without any So we're big on best player available. I
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  Speaker 2: usually say from a premium position.
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  Speaker 1: I always say best player available for the team, because
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  Speaker 1: I go back to Bill Belichick. Well, it doesn't necessarily
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  Speaker 1: need to be a premium position, but best player available
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  Speaker 1: for the team, Like to Bill Belichick, Right, we did
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  Speaker 1: what's best for the team, So let me throw one
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  Speaker 1: other guy forgot in that whole rant. And again, this
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  Speaker 1: is all assuming they get the tackle and Travis Hunter
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  Speaker 1: goes it four. Right, what about armand Membo? Now I
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  Speaker 1: am not somebody who believes you draft arm On Membo
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  Speaker 1: at four and you make them a left tackle. We
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  Speaker 1: just saw them trying to move guys over. It did
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  Speaker 1: not work. I do not want to see them do
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  Speaker 1: it again. But if you come out of this offseason
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  Speaker 1: and you're using a lot of premium assets on one
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  Speaker 1: position group, but if there's one position group to do it,
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  Speaker 1: it's the offensive line. And I'm So okay with that.
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  Speaker 1: If you come out of this offseason with Ronnie Stanley
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  Speaker 1: left to right, Ronnie Stanley, fill it in. Left guards
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  Speaker 1: your weak spot, you know, maybe it's Laydon Robinson, maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's Patrick McCarry, Maybe it's a guard later in the draft,
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  Speaker 1: right Carson Vincent, Ronnie Stanley, left guard to be named later,
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  Speaker 1: David Andrews, Mike O and Wnu armand Membo. Yeah, a
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  Speaker 1: real offensive line. That's a one eighty. You're you're you're
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  Speaker 1: cooking with gas now. So that's another guy just to
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  Speaker 1: add to that rant. Like if assuming they get the
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  Speaker 1: left tackle. Armand Membu is a guy and I think
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  Speaker 1: Dane Burglar had him at four to the Patriots and
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  Speaker 1: his last mock. So like this conversation and we this
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  Speaker 1: is why we couched everything going into the combine that
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  Speaker 1: we were talking about the conversation of four is so
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  Speaker 1: much more wide open now then maybe we thought it
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  Speaker 1: was gonna be going in, especially if they can add
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  Speaker 1: that left tackle, whether it be Ronnie Stanley or Cam Robbinson.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a couple of things there. Uh yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: want to go back to the.
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  Speaker 2: Warren conversation for a second. I do have some questions
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  Speaker 2: about whether or not he you know, to use the
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  Speaker 2: term that Elliott Wolfe has used in the past, Is
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  Speaker 2: he a coverage dictating player?
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  Speaker 1: I think so so.
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  Speaker 2: That because that's what they need, a Tuesday player. Yeah, yeah, right,
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  Speaker 2: So if they're gonna draft him at four overall, then
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  Speaker 2: you have to be you have to be saying to yourself,
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  Speaker 2: the teams are gonna get into game plan us and
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  Speaker 2: they're going to have to take.
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Warren out of the game just like they used to.
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  Speaker 2: Take Ronk or Kelsey or whatever. I'm not trying to
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  Speaker 2: put that all on him, but you know what I'm trying.
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  Speaker 1: So again, I'm not super confident, like definitive. Yes, he
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  Speaker 1: can be, But I don't think are you definitive yes?
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  Speaker 1: For whatever you know about a tackle you need a
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  Speaker 1: check this box or a defender you need to check
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  Speaker 1: this box. Are you that? Do you feel that way
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  Speaker 1: about anybody available at that pick, which I would say no,
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  Speaker 1: So we go to that next level. I think Warren
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  Speaker 1: has a chance to be that player. Again, it goes
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  Speaker 1: back to the versatility you're He's a guy. In my mind,
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  Speaker 1: if you're taking him, you are not He's not gonna
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  Speaker 1: be all right, he's our in line tight end and
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna run this route tree and you no, like
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  Speaker 1: some weeks he's gonna play in line. Some weeks are
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  Speaker 1: gonna move him, probably more heavily in a slot. Some
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  Speaker 1: weeks you made you know you face a man heavy team.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna start playing. We're gonna play him
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  Speaker 1: the boundary this week to get a linebacker out of
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  Speaker 1: the box. We're gonna try to run the ball, all right,
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  Speaker 1: we're probab. We're gonna use him as a full back
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  Speaker 1: this week, like you're going to use him to hunt matchups.
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  Speaker 1: It's not so much the you're not so if you're
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  Speaker 1: the Tuesday morning sense of it is not we need
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  Speaker 1: to take away this guy because he does this well.
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  Speaker 1: It's we need to be prepared for them to do
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  Speaker 1: anything with this guy because it's all on the table.
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  Speaker 1: It's a little different. It's not the most ideal situation.
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  Speaker 1: And this is why again this is not me pounding
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  Speaker 1: the table for Tyler Warren. But this is me like
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  Speaker 1: we could do a different extent, have the same conversation
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  Speaker 1: or in a different context, have the same conversation with
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Will Campbell. Right, is he if you're taking him at four,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: you're expecting him to be a career tackle. We don't
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: know he's a career tackle. Are you willing to take
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: that risk? And do you think you can develop him
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: to the point where he can be or not? With
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Tech McMillan, Well, he doesn't have the speed. He's definitely
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: a matchup nightmare in some situations, but not in every situation.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: Can you figure out a way to use him for
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: him to become that Tuesday player? Assuming Hunters off the board,
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: we can. My point is, like I thought we were
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: just gonna do this for Campbell, we can probably do
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: it with six or seven different guys. We can do
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: it with Dash and Genty, we can do it with
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: Will Johnson. We can do it with Tyler Warren. You
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: want to get into like Michael Williams and Javon Walker.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: I think you can do it with those guys too.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know that i'd be rushing
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: for those guys. To me, it's somebody who's gonna make
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know how I want to phrase that, but
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: like you get what I'm saying, right, No, I don't
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: know for sure Tyler Warren is going to be a
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Tuesday player. You tell me who the player is on
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: the board that we know is going to be a
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Tuesday player for I'll tell you to take them. My
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: point is, I don't think that guy's there. So now
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: we have to get into well, which of these players,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: if you get stuck at four and can't trade, or
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: you move down slightly and you're still basically working with
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: the same group, which one of these guys can you
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: make the strongest case for that he's a chance to
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: become a Tuesday player. I don't know that Tyler Warren's
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: at the top of that list, but he belongs on
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: the list of people we should be having that conversation about.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely agree he's on the list. And the
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: other guy that I also think is on the list
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: for me at this point is Ted McMillan first similar reasons. Yeah,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: And I think the main reason why, even more so
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: than some of the reasons that I think are are
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: relevant with Warren, I think we're finding out and maybe
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: they'll this will change. Maybe next week this time they'll
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: have Chris Godwin on the roster, or they'll have Brandon
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Aiyuk on the roster, or a J. Brown or DK
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Metcalf or whoever. Like I'm willing to allow this to change,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: but just from what we are experiencing with this team
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: for the last year, I wonder if you are going
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: to have to go find your own receiver, you know, Well,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Mike Brabel kind of said that, right, and so if
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: that's the mindset of We're just not in a position,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: even if we offer the financials, We're just not in
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: a position right now to draw a DeVante Adams. We're
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: not in a position to draw Chris Godwin's an unrestricted
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: free agent come Monday. He's got eight teams are calling him,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: offering in similar contracts. We just aren't in a position
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: to lure Chris Godwin away from the Chargers. The Chargers
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: land him, you know, or I'm just using the Charges
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: because there are another receiver needed team, you know, Chiefs
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: land them, whatever. We're just not in a position to
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: do that. And I'm not in love with Ted McMillan.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: I don't necessarily look at him and see I've said
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: this multiple times. I've never I don't look at him
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: and see an elite prospect.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Molik neighbors a Jamar Chase like he's not that he's
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: not that. But one thing that I come away from
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: you know, from Indy, from the trip is I have
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: to recalibrate my brain to adjust for.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: This class, right, the talent in this class.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: And I look at Warren too in the same way,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: in the same light, and that is in this class.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Those two guys are top ten talents in this year.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: They wouldn't have been last year. But it's not last year, right,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: it's this year. So I look at Ted McMillan and
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: I rewatched some of the games I hadn't seen of
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: his a little bit yesterday.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: I rewatched games you haven't seen.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I phrased that poorly. I watched games that I
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: haven't seen it. The one game I did rewatch though,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: actually because I got myself tripped up there, I went
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: back and watched him against Travis Hunter in twenty twenty three.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: And there's an obvious path there in terms of his
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: skill set to being a big bodied inside outside X
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: receiver that can play the big slot, that can play
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: out on the perimeter, that is going to win with separation.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I think he can separate at the first two levels.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I just don't think he runs by anybody. But I
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: think when you get into that intermediate range, the stop routes,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: the digs, the slants, like, I think that he does
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: create some separation. And with his catch radius and with
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: his size, you know, he can obviously box out and
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: he doesn't need a ton of right and he's got
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: fantastic body control, hands and catch radius like that's all
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: over his tape. So I'm revisiting the idea of TEP McMillan,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: and maybe all he ever ends up being is like
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: a Drake London type player. Is a top twenty receiver?
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Are comp last week? Down there?
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, top twenty receiver in the league last year, Drake London.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: The Patriots might be in a position where they have
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: to look at it and say, how else are we
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: going to get that guy?
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: So?
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: How else are we going to get a number one receiver?
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Because we've tried in every avenue possible, right, Like, we
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: can't get it. We can't get I used to accept
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: the trade here, we can't get Calvin Ridley to accept
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: our money. We can't get Chris Godwin to take our cash.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: We can't get t Higgins out of Cincinnati because they
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: keep on freaking franchise tagging the guy, Right, So like,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: how else are we going to get that player? Like,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: maybe it's Tyler Warren just in a different mold, right,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe we're building the offense differently, We're building it around Tyler.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's Ted McMillan, and is it perfect? No, But
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I think there's a case for both those guys. So
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I actually have a a take on the receivers. It's
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: not so much a take, just you know, coming away
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: from it, how do they get that guy? Matthew Golden
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: impressed me more than I thought. I already liked Matthew Golden,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: as you know. Yeah, but like tet at even if
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: they trade down, Let's say tet at nine, where you
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: trade up and you get Golden at like twenty four,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: So you're gonna take two receivers? No, no, no, I'm saying,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: if it's oh, right, what's the better play you take?
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know somebody else that I don't know if
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Matthew Golden's gonna be there at twenty four, you don't
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: think so, just based off of some of the things
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: that you heard coming out of the combine, Like there
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: are some teams that might have him as the number
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: one receiver in the draft. Yeah, so I had, and
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of thinking, like for the Patriots, it's really
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: close if you could just stylistically right for it. Josh
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: McDaniels was such a great route runner, right, So I
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: came in Golden is such a great I came in
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: thinking he was Tet gap and then that group of
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Burden Golden and Igbuka Sam and I kind of came
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: away like Golden might be closer to Tet than he
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: is to those other two.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's fair. Now, I don't want to overrate the
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: forty two much, but I don't think.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: He played No. I just thought, like, he don't think.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: He plays four to two, Like I think he runs
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: great routes. Yeah, and he's got great hands, and he's
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: got great body control and separation ability.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: In the open field.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I don't necessarily see four two. But that's okay. Like
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I just think
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: that he had. If I were to list like the
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: good things about Matthew Golden, I don't know if like
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know where speed would like top end speed
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: would be on that list.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Right, it's you know what for me? And I already
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: thought he was he had a really good chance being
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: a first round pick. Yeah, it's not even the forty.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: It's the way he spoke at his podium, hearing the
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: way people talked about him, his approach, like this sounds
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: kind of you can tell me if this is dumb.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: You can tell me if I'm putting too much emphasis
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: on this. Right. The other Texas guys, Tees Johnson, they
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: went up there and talked about how they were gonna
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: beat Xavier Worthy's forty, right, and they were talking smack
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: about it. And I'm not faulting them for being confident,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: but like they went up and they talked a lot
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: of smack about it. None of them broke four four,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Isaiah Bond, Jaylen Blue, none of them broke for four.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Golden goes up there, talks about how he wants to
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: be coach hard, how he wants to you know, I
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: thought he had a great pot of it. And then
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: he goes out and he runs a better time than
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: any of them. Yeah, and again just talking to people
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: kind of about his mental makeup. That's what's great about
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: the combine is we see these guys on tape, but
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: you get to kind of learn a little bit more
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: about what makes them tick, and hearing about what makes
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Matthew Golden tick, I'm like, yeah, that's kind of the
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: guy I want. And you know, I still think he's
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: a very confident guy, and I think he has kind
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: of that swagger that you want from wide receiver. But
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I think he has that dog too a little bit
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: where he's kind of got that edge and he's a
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: competitor and he's got that fire. So I I like that,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Like that's the kind of thing that you learn at
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: these events, and especially the way it's gone here with
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: receivers the last couple of years. Somebody's gonna take that approach,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I think is he literally said about his meeting with Patriots,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: they coached me hard. I want to be coached hard.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: What more can you want at this point?
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: So the other thing just sort of the trickle down
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: of the receivers at the combine, and I have the
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: I don't want to spoil the ups and downs too much.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I already spoiled, like to of when you look.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: At the Iowa state receivers Jaden Haigens and Jalen Noel,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: both of those guys tested phenomenally and one of the
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: things that I.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Thought of too is that now.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I feel like pretty strongly that with both those players,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: if you want one of those guys, you have to
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: take them at thirty eight.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Like they're not gonna make it to sixty nine. Sorry,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: who is this? Noel and both Iowa State guys Ohs
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: and Noel? Right, would you put Rostrepo in that group
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: as well? No? Okay, no, because it's a size. But
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: he's get sixty nine. I think he might because.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: He's a slot he's a slot only player.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's a good slought only player. Yeah, but
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Jalen Noel is a more complete receiver than he is.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's gonna go above. There's a lot
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: of picks between thirty eight and sixty. Sure, that's that's fair.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: We'll see. But my point being is that if you
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: want one of those two guys, yeah, you need to
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: take them at thirty eight.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: They're not making it to the Patriots in the third round.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: It's not happening. So you're either taking them at thirty
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: eight or you're trading up from sixty nine to get
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: one of those. But even then, I think that their
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: range is probably now thirty to forty, Like.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not moving up from sixty nine to get
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: one of those guys, you're moving down from thirty eight
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: if at all, So then after last year, just take
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: him at thirty eight at that point.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: But my fear is, though, is that if they're operating
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: under this assumption, and I'm not saying that they necessarily
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: are one hundred percent of this thinking, but just for
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: the sake of the discussion, if they're operating under the
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: whole thing of trenches, trenches, trenches, and then now you're
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: gonna have to be using another third pick in the
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: thirties for two years in a row on a wide receiver. Yeah, right,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Like you're not really doing trenches, trenches, trenches, right, Yeah,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: And so I I wonder at four where there is
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: a lot of uneasiness about a lot of these guys
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: like his skill player. Now may be a little bit
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: more of a consideration over trenches, and then you'll hammer the.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Trenches, I think to as long as the trenches are
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: addressed properly in free agency, that's all banks on them, right.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Butency defensive line they can find they can find on
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: day two about that, so offensive line is the question mark.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: And maybe, like you said, you sign a Ronnie Stanley,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: you sign a Cam Robinson to play left tackle, so
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: now you're really just looking for right tackle competition, right,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: So maybe it's you know, an Ozzie Trapilo. Maybe it's
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: somebody and Anthony Belton, Yeah, Anthony Belton. Uh, you know
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: someone in that range of this draft that can come
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: in with Cayden Wallace and maybe a lower cost free
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: agent veteran, you know, want Morgan Moses. Let's just throw
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: a name out there for you know, one year, nine
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: million or eight million, you signed Morgan Moses is like,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: you know, a better version of what they were hoping
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: they were going to get out of, like Riley Reef
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: for like choops of four and four or whatever. And
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: then you just kind of throw things at right tackle,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: like you have three different layers of options there, right tack.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Or you you talk about member with four in a
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: trade back and you just locked that whole thing up. Yeah,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna spoil all of our ups and downs talking,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: so let's get and that we can fire through them
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: and get to the phone.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: So let's talk about those here instead of spoiling all
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: of them, because let's go to my list in yours
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: as well, Okay, I want you start, you start, go ahead?
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Should you start with when we already spoiled? Sure? Matthew Golden. Yeah,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I just thought he tested well. Sounded like he interviewed well,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: checked a lot of boxes. That wide receiver two conversation
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: was wide open coming into the week. I still could see,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: just on stylistically, some teams having burden over him. I
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: actually had burden go ahead of him in my uh
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: they went like really close twenty one and twenty five,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: I think in my mock draft I put out on Monday.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: But Matthew Golden, this momentum has been building since the
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: college football playoff, and I think he took it and
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: ran with it.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: So I I don't remember which comp I settled on
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: for him, and.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: We doing three and three or like I wanted each position.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I did three and three. Okay, but you can do
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: whatever you want, okay.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: I I don't remember which comp I settled on with him,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: but I think I underestimated him even a little bit.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: With the comp even doesn't sound right? Was it Tyler Lockett? Uh? No?
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: That was Jaylen Nowell. I still feel pretty good about
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: okay com I was gonna say it doesn't seem right. Yeah.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: So the comp that I tend to like stay away
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: from comps like this because it's such a high ceiling
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: that you're producing.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: It was Deon Branch. Yeah.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Who I he's bigger than Dion Branch, So I think
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: that that's uh. Deon Branch was a great rapd runner
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: in a really fast, you know, explosive, bursty route runner.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Much bigger than a couple of inches taller was Dealon Bran,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: like five to nine.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Really.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I've heard a little bit of this just
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: talking around or you know, asking around. A couple of
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: people threw this one at me. So that's why I
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: feel like mentioning it was Stefan Diggs. And I I
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: hate to throw Steffan Diggs out there because Stefon Diggs
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: a hell of a football player.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I see where that's coming from, though, I do see
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: that's like ceiling, that's a ceiling comp.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but right, there was a couple of people and
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs didn't run great in his forty not that
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: that matters given the career that he had. So it's
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: not you know, if you're going to look at it
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: from like a pure you know, mock draftable standpoint, who's
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: the best comp It's probably not going to be Steffan
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Diggs for those reasons. But you know, route running, technician,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: speed hands, you know.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: All that type of stuff. There is a little bit
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: of that in his game. You know, he he won,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: He he won the week in a lot of ways
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: at that position.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: My number one up though, was not was not a
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: golden although I agree that that was a good pick.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: My number one up was Shamar Stewart from Texas A.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: So Shamar Stewart goes out, puts up a ten out
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: of ten relative athletics score four five nine with a
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: forty inch vertical at sixty five two and sixty seven pounds.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Fre freak, an absolute freak, you know, like Superhero hit
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: him with the Captain America's here him, Like this guy's
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: an absolute cyborg.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Now that being said, he had one.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: And a half sacks last year and four and a
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: half sacks in his entire career at Texas A and
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: M now sax Is and everything. But if you're gonna
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: draft a guy at four overall, you're projecting that he
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: is going to be a double digit sack player in.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: The NA, especially teams generally way production more at that
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: position than now.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we did have thirty nine pressures last year,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: which isn't terrible. It's not good, but it's not terrible.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: So think, isn't there defense kind of structure like Georgia's though,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: where it's sort of like an everybody eats things. So
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: now you can't get one person putting up these massive numbers.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: That's there's something to that. So just along those same lines, yeah,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: it's a little Trayvon Walker ish right, where Trayvon Walker
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: did not have great college production, absolutely blew up the
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: combine extremely freakish measurables and tools Shamar Stewart when you
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: watch them on tape, like the speed to power pops,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: the length, the heavy hands, the explosiveness in his lower
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: body to kind of go from the ground up and
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: generate power. He just doesn't have a pass rush move like,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: he doesn't have a go to move like you know,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: it's crush. It's probably gonna be a long arm, right
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: and then if you can get the long arm going,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: then maybe you can get a rip dip rip or
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: a ghost or something like that to build off the
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: long arm. But right now he just doesn't have great
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: nuance to his his pass rush. So if you give
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart to Mike Rabel and Terrell Williams, two guys
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: with defensive line background that know how to coach pass rushers,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: can you get Shamar Stewart to reach his potential? And
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: is that worth the fourth overall pick? Because along with
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: thinking a lot about the skill players, you know something
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: we've been throwing around, you know, Mike dessau Is was
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: probably the leader in this throwing this around on Patriots unfiltered,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: is like, who is the guy that three years from
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: now we're all going to look back and say, well,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: they probably should have drafted Yeah, Shamar Stewart fourth overall
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: and just lived with the growing pains. I think the
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: two most likely guys for that to happen are MIKEL Williams,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: who didn't test but has the same sort of pedigree,
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: and Shamar Stewart. So I just felt like mentioning Shamar
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Stewart in this conversation, you know, for those reals.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one. I don't on my list too.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I think he helped himself a ton this week. Yeah,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: all right, who's he got next? I'll stick on defense.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: These aren't in order. I'm just kind of jumping around
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Jahad Campbell. Yeah, I know there are a lot I
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: love do it all linebacker from Alabama. If you remember
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, how into how much I
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: like Henry Toto is a prospect, Right, this is just
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: a much better version of Henry to toe and Henry
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Tote is a good player. Yeah. So I know a
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: lot of Patriots fans were kind of hoping maybe he
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: fell to thirty eight and they could build the defense
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: around him. Not seeing it, not seeing how he gets
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: a thirty eight, not seeing how he gets out of
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: the first round. He might be a top twenty pick. Yeah.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Just the the athleticism, the size, the reaction, the instincts
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: of the football, IQ, all of it. He's the complete package.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: And what's crazy, he's probably not even the best off
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: ball linebacker in this class, but he's really freaking good,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: very good player.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: I thought he was great on film, played great in
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: some big games for Alabama too.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: That the typical.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Prototype linebacker nowadays, like still has a little bit of size,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: but goes sideline to sideline, carries the seam and you
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: know cover two, like can run vertical with tight ends,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: can cover backs out of the backfield, can spy quarterbacks
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: and chase down athletic quarterbacks. Like if you you know
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen right, like you can put Gehide Campbell in
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: a spiral all game long. He can reduce you know,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: he can go down on the line of scrimmage and
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: rush the passer off the edge. Really good player, like
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: really just good all around football player. And that it's
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: not something I'm totally dismissing that playmaking linebacker, Like he's
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: got to bring something for me in the pass rush,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: which I think Jihad Campbell does and so does Jalen Walker.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: But then yeah, right.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: But like that play making ability from the first and
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: second level in the defense to make the splash play,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Like it's one thing to blow up a run game
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: or something like that, but who's going to be the
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: guy against the ball carrier on the ground, right, You
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: know those two guys can do that, all right. My
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: next one, we've already mentioned him a little bit though,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: is Arma Membu.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, he just he just beasted.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: He had a ninety first percentile ten yard split. He
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: benched thirty one reps on the bench press, nine point
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: nine to eight. Relative Athletics score So the one thing
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: that I would say on Membo that gave me a
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: little bit of hesitation, it's not even the right tackle thing.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I don't mind that. Like the Chargers just drafted Joe
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Alton made him a right tackle, and I don't think
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: they're complaining about that. The one thing that I worried
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: about a little bit is that he's shorter, like just
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: he's a stockier shorter. Yeah, like his a shorter guy.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: I know we're saying he's sixty four, and the people
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: are like, that's not short, Like it's short for an NFL.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Tackle, it's average. It's short. It's six four, it's below
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: the fiftieth I would say, said six Really that many
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: tackles that?
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Ozzie Tripilla was six eight.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: I would think like six' four would be like the
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: basement of WHERE i wouldn't call you, short right like six.'
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Three now i'm thinking short tackles. Six' four like he's
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: on the shorter. Side of average. That's fair exact but
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: so he's he's, a little shorter a little bit more
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: of that like, stout compact build but he's not he's,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: got long arms thirty three and, a half inches so
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: he's above threshold. WITH the arms i think the, one
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: thing though, what you know just in terms, of THE
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: height that i, Think, is important, Yeah stride length like
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: stride length is really important because It Might take shamar
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: stewart three steps, to, get somewhere yeah and It takes
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: armand membu five steps. To get somewhere and so it's
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: the same thing THE conversation that i bring up a
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: lot of The Time, with mason graham where it's like
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: a little bit of, that, pitter pattern right like we
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: got to take some extra steps to, get to places especially.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: In past PROTECTION so When I watched arman, MEMBU on
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: film i just saw some of that, where you know
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: he's got to work a little bit harder to get
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: out to landmarks and things like that because he is a, little,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Bit stubbier right so that would be my only.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Concern with him but his athleticism and his ability to
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: convert that into power is all over the. Tape like
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: that this workout surprised me just because of how, amazing
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: it was but it didn't surprise me, that, He's athletic
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: right that's the type of player. That he is and,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: to your point If You. Sign ronnie stanley even If
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: You sign cam robinson And You draft arman membu to,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: play right tackle and then you have your left tackle and,
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: your right tackle you're.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: In, pretty shape yeah and then it's we know and
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: when who's? Gonna Be, Back david andrews and then it's
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: just figuring out. That left, card all? Right who's next
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: let's SEE who did? I? Get to UH this is
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: i know he's, on Your list but i'll. SAY it
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: anyway i think he's. On Your list MASON. Taylor. From
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: lsu yeah, really good. Workout really good he's just. Like,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: so POLISHED yeah which i think, he's twenty right he's
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: twenty years old and he and this is again it's
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: all over the tape you SEE. It at lsu like
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: he's really advanced, for his age just as a, football
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: player's technique his ability to, see the field. Things like
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: that so what stood out to me not so much like,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: the number testing but like going through, the gauntlet right
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: going through some of the, on field drills like the,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: pass catching drills hitting. THE blocking sled a lot of the.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: TIGHT ends struggled i was underwhelmed with the tight end workout.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: AS a whole i Should note That warren and loveland,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: didn't work Out and gunner helm sprained his ankle before
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: he had a, chance to run so. That didn't help
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: but he's just so advanced for where he's at. At
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: this point when It Comes, to mason. Taylor, it's impressive.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah really just, Natural hands catcher like, through that gauntlet it.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Just looked easy.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: He looked smooth he was right. On the line it
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: didn't look he wasn't fighting the. Ball at all he's.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: An impressive player, and you know you can tell with
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: some of those, guys that, they're you know. Sons, of
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: coaches yeah like they just have such great or sons.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: OF former players i should.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Say they have he is a coach? Now does coach
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: he's like He, might have No he's at miami. Like,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: THE you, yeah I think if, I'M remembering correct i
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: think he's one of those like director of player. Development,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: OR something Yeah i if, I'M remembering correct i didn't
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: have him on my list because he didn't he. Didn't
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: do it he's the defensive ends COACH.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: At, the u okay so He Didn't do mason taylor
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: didn't do, all THE testing. SO i didn't i kind
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: of stuck to the testing. Guys for This But. With
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: mason taylor, Just Last thing mike Rabel Was in jason
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: taylor's draft class and and the two, of them, supposedly
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: you know This Is a. Mike rabel story he told
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: us A story and i think he told IT again
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: on nfl at work because Of the Of, Taylor, and vrabel.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah being close in the.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: In the alphabet they spent like all week together, At
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: the combine So He knows jason. Taylor pretty well and
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: those are the types OF connections that i LOOK at
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: AND i think nfl bloodlines and things like that are
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: gonna matter a little bit To Somebody. Like Mike Rabel
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: so mason taylor is definitely. Big, Boar guy right he's
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: squarely on. The big board there's no.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Doubt About.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: That all right THE last ONE i had i combine
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: both these guys together because they went to.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: THE same school i. Mentioned, HIM already, wait, i Guess
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: yeah the. Oregon, defensive, tackles no oh they should both.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Be On, there, Derek Harmon, yeah mark cauldwell they. WERE
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: both good i always.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: State WIDE receivers so i was Blown Away that jayden
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: higgins ran at four four seven blown away by that
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: he doesn't play to a, four four seven which obviously
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: gives you a little. Bit OF pause but, i actually
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: wonder now some receivers are like this because they're crafty
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: as hell. And it's smart is he just a tempo
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: guy where like he knows he'd like it's not always
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: best to just open, It up right so he might
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: be one of those guys that tries to like lull,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: you to sleep and then he's gonna and he's gonna
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: go past you with speed when, he needs to and
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: might go about. IT that way i love receivers like that, that.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Change gears right they're not always if you're, a six
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: speed you're always gonna be in, six, Gear right right
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: sometimes you want to be like in the second gear
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: right and just kind of well the. Guys to sleep
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: so he ran a. FOUR four seven i thought he
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: was really. Tested extremely well he has basically solidified himself
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: as THE number two x receiver, in THIS class and
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: i don't think. It's particularly, close You know it's, tet
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: number one And Then it's jayden higgins's number two in
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: that big, body you know sixty THREE sixty four x
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: receiver mold and, Then My guy jalen, noel just, like
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: my goodness what a what a workout all the, way, through,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: explosiveness agilities speed four three nine in the.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Forty yard dash i've Compared Him.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: To Tyler lockett tyler lockett actually just got Released, by
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: the seahawks so we can talk about that here. In
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: A minute but i Don't Think that jalen Noel Is
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: A Julian edelman wes. Welker Slot receiver jalen noel is
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: A Speed slot jalen noel can is going to separate at.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: The third level he's, gonna run post he's, gonna run
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: overs he's gonna run seams, and go balls and he's
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: gonna stack guys like he's gonna. Run past people he's
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: an explosive player and he's a. Great ROUTE runner so
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: i don't see him getting out of.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: The.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: TOP fifty now i think he's he's a. Really good
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: player so, those two guys you want to just wrap
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: a fire through the, rest OF mine. BECAUSE i did
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: i didn't. DO any quarterbacks i didn't think, Anything, now.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Good Nope terrible donovan Edwards Running back Michigan isaac to
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Slaw wide receiver arkansas and then just respond to whoever.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: You Want Cornerback Darian porter iowa state Kind Of like
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: darian port if YOU know how i. Do the draft
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: that's such a of Course He. Likes darian Porter And
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: then billy bowman With. Safety From Oklahoma.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: So darian porter interests me because, of, The, size right
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: like he's. Got some size he's got some.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Just some size he's six three and he HAD the
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: longest i think longest arms been corner he's got and
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: he ran a. Four to three, he's got athleticism. He's got,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: size you know.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: IF you're trying i don't know if this is necessarily
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: where they're gonna go, early at cornerback but if you
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: want to Pair Somebody, With, christian gonzales.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah there was some reporting that they're looking for like
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: those day two. Corners with size. It's veryan. Portant you
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Know It. Is tarik woland who's The Guy? FROM kansas,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: state i like who went?
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: To?
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: The, Cults, Juju brent brent like it's, that you know
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: here's that Guy again that i'm gonna like in the draft,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: because big, corner run fast.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Big, YOU'RE simple, man i mean like that's a good
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: way and.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: He's agile too he's not a. Straight line athlete, so it's,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: like all right he has size and he can move
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: around like that's a good floor. To start with so,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: all right, there all right are gonna get to? The,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: downs here yeah two of my guys.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Are, on this list which you know. It kills me
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: you know. IT kills me.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I gotta go i got some of my guys, on
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: here too so so number one and some. OF YOUR
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: guys i i was.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Hesitant to put him here because he. Still killed it
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: he saw. A Great Workout but will. Campbell's gotta go.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: He has to. He has to. It's he's guard it's
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: not like he measured, in, just short right it significantly
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: so thirty two.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: AND five days i know a lot of people are
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: more alarmed by the seventy. Seven, inch wingspan yeah which
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: is would be basically.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: One of one it Was the so felger, had this
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: yesterday the shortest wingspan of any tackle to measure in
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: it at the combine since. Nineteen ninety nine so not even like,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: first round pick not even like guys who made a,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: pro like it just it. Has not happened he would
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: be if you still believe in him, as, a tackle like.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Good for you you're talking about him, being an alien
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: you're talking about him being a truly generational, once you
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: know one of. A, Kind Player, goodbye. SWEET prince goodbye
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: i have another. Guy ON here can i just piggyback,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Off That? Rext, SWEET prince yeah i Kind Of put
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: mason graham in, that same category not to. The, same,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: extent WELL no but, i just mean like the reason
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: we Were Talking about mason graham is a top five
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: pick because my scoutner report on you go find at
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: ninety five sports dot com nice moves like a Player
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: TWENTY pa and I don't think i said it, exactly
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: like this, but it's like moves like a player much lighter. Than,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: he is well it turns out he's much lighter than,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: he was listed so that kind. Of makes Sense What
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: made mason graham such a special player in theory was
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: there's not a ton of three hundred and twenty five
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: pound defensive tackles moving the way. He was moving there
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: are some two hundred and ninety five pound defensive tackles that, moved,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: That way right and he's a Good Player, Like, Braidon
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Fisk right bradon fist is. A GOOD player why i
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: got tarred and feathered for Making, that can no, You
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: were right you. Were Exactly Right and braidon fisk is.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: A good player Would You take bradon fisk in? The
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: top five probably take him higher than wherever he went?
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Fortieth last, year but Like He's not mason Graham is
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: a and this is why it's a Different extent To Will,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: campbecause will campbell you're talking. About changing Positions It's a.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Tyler lockett update But Like, with mason graham he's not
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: the prototype of player we necessarily. Thought HE was and
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: i don't know that he played a. TWO ninety five
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: i think he played probably right around three hundred and,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Three oh, five, but like yeah there's a big difference
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: between three oh five, and three twenty especially when you
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: factor in like his arm length came, in SHORT, too so,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: i you know for the measurements and he didn't work,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: out at all but for the ME like when i
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: sait like to the, on field workouts but for the
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: measurements being, what they are it's kind Of. Similar to
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: campbell is he still? A? Good player yes is he
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: a good player in the sense that we thought he
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: was and is he, a good, player you know top
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: five pick kind. Of, good player no there's significally more
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: questions now that come.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: With his makeup so the One last thing I'll Add,
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: on mason graham There's Cops. For mason graham it's a
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: SMOOTHER cop than i would say that It Is with
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: will campbell.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Out of tackle but you know there Is no comper will.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Cambl at tackle that's. The whole point they kept Trying
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: to make michael ruse a thing that that's not The
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Comp leaving aaron donald Out Because, he's, aaron donald right
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: it's he's Retired to the we're not going to Compare Quarterbacks.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: To.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Tom brady right, if You're Saying well aaron donald was,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: with that size well maybe, the tack okay so he
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: be the best defensive tackle mastery.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: So, The guy no so the guys that that he
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: should be TOUTING as like, i you Know can be
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: this kind of guy is Like an end oliver who
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: is also like six three two, ninety ninety five a
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: guy that a lot of. People Are, projecting come monday.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Was it is it? TWELVE or four i always Forget.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: ON on monday i think, It's.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Twelve uh monday at, twelve Oh one the patriots are
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: going to strike A Deal with milton williams at the top.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Of free agency, i'm saying hypothetically.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: If they Do they will It's, four, O'clock wednesday right.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: So hypothetically if, they You Know. May Milton williams milton
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: williams plays at like. Two, ninety, Five yeah right so
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: you're there are some comps out there for. Guys like
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: that it's just you're projecting at four overall that this
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: is gonna be a guy you never take, off the
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: field so like not on top of the fact that
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: you know at, TWO ninety five i think that you're
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: really saying that he has to, play three technique like
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: he has to play over the guard, or outside, RIGHT
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: you know i say outside like, outside, The shoulders right
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: so like you can't play him at one, tech or
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: nos like he, can't play right he's, gonna get bullied
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: so you have to put him further away, from the
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: football and that just it just is kind of like how,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: we talk, About You, Know xavier restreppa like this guy's
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: a slot and he's. Only A slot mason graham is
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: now only A THREE technique now i think you could
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: probably play like three four end if you want. To
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: get technical but it's the same, thing right now instead,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: of three tech you're A four eye like it's it's
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: we're bumping over a half a half a yard. If,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: that right so like we're talking about, the same thing.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: And you're not gonna have a guy play like three eye.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: In for it you're not gonna have two guys in
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: the same, Field, Right spots right so it becomes it's
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: not that he's a.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Bad football, player you know someone that we had on
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: said they called him, a, Leverage king right he's just.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Gets underneath you he's. Really really strong he can. Get
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: underneath you he's got, that wrestling background so he's really violent,
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: with his hands and he's great with leverage and pad.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Level and all that.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Kind of stuff but because, of his measurables he is
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: going to have to be a technician that outworks everybody
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: like that's gonna be his path to being great. In
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: the league and that's it just feels a little a
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: little rich. At, four overall yeah for that that kind,
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: OF skill set i, agree with. That, all right uh
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: the next, guy on here.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Do you want to do a is me at colpa.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: The RIGHT word now i want to do a met. Colpa
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: on test johnson are doing The victory. Lap on test he's.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: On, my list, okay and UH just like I Said, with,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: will Campbell. Goodbye, sweet prince uh it turns out the,
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: question wasn't fast and it was can?
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: He, be fast. Well he's. Quick he's, quick he's, quick,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: not fast yes but he's also one hundred and, fifty
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: four pounds so one hundred. And, fifty five uh. Here's
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: the thing they changed that because it definitely was one
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: fifty four. IN the pact i wrote down. One fifty
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: five it was one hundred fifty Four in BRON so.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Because. I, can't quit Yeah By tes johnson love he
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: tested exactly the Same.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: As tank out but he. Didn't he did he. Didn't
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: he did he Did not test johnson numbers he because he.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Didn't he did he ran a four. Or Five one
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: tant dell ran a four. To four Nine That's different
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Tan dell tank dell to. Hundredth, of us yes that's what.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: The combine is That's. Absolutely Tank tal tank Tell's also
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: tank tell's also. Twelve Pounds, heavier tes johnson they showed
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: it was he was on. My downs list you don't
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: have to ran this.
• 49:33
  Speaker 6: On my.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Player in the history, of the combine it. Was not good,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: if you're, four five five if you're if you, have
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: a four if you're running a four or five speed
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: at one hundred and. Fifty four POUNDS that's why I
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: right wrote dow one hundred and fifty five because the
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: first quick was four. Or, five five okay so. He's
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: gonna run you're gonna have him run return routes and
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: that's all he's gonna do because you can't send him
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: over the top and you can't send him in the middle. Of,
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: the field well you can have.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: One field workout he had the fastest go we're out,
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: At the combine.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: But how long did it take him to get up?
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: To That speed all i'm telling you IS is that
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: i do Think he's got.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: This doesn't sound like a guy's on. Your down list he's.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: A downs list he's one hundred and, fifty five, pounds
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: soaking wet and he ran a four. Or five one
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: you can't that's not. A good combination it's. It's really
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: not you can't send him over. The middle field it's
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: gonna be tough to send him.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Down the field if you just want to have run
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: a return routes and and and you know short, outs
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: all game you, Can do that but how high are you?
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Picking that guy.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: So that was my Next Point, about test johnson because
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: you don't have to take YOUR victory lap i admitted
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: that he that he tanked, and all right no Pun Intended.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: With tank dell he had a bat your couching, A,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: little bit yeah, because he's. Quick, not fast also to
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: go Back To the, mason graham thing he ran the.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Fastest three cone, that's not nothing, It's not nothing but
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: you're going to Compare Him. To tanked, dell, so then
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: yeah why Can't We compare mason Graham To. To aaron
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Donald Is. Not tank dell that's He's a tank tell's
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: an anomaly to a Different Extent, than Aaron Donald but tanked.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Dell's an anomaly comparing Him to tankd dell is saying
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: he's going to, be another anomaly and you can't. Necessarily
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: do that.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: So he's not as fast as this player in the
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: forty because he's not fast as anybody apparently. In the,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: forty but like if you don't want to comp Him
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: to tank dell because you don't think that he's good
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: enough to.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: Reach that ceiling like Two two at well is like kind.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: OF the floor i don't even remember what Two two.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: At well ran he, Ran pretty well i'm pretty sure
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: off the top, of My Head but i've i'm sure if,
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: IT was comparable i would have remembered right to use
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: that to. Support, my argument so like the floor seems
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: to be like a Two, two at well who's like
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: more like production wise has kind Of Been like pop
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: douglas two ran. Four, Three, nine yeah no. HE'S much
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: faster i said. He Was Faster now tank dell is
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: like still the ceiling. Camp to me with all, that
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: being said my Question Now, at tess Johnson Like does tes?
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Johnson get drafted like are we sure where he's?
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Gonna Get drafted so i'm gonna go back to my
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Comp Which, is devin tompkins who he's. AT four four
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: i don't somebody may draft him late just because of
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: the three CONE and the, Gps tracking speed i'd say
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: we're gonna. Have like it he's a very specific. You're
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: gonna use he's gonna. Be gadget player he's not a full.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Time wide receiver somebody might draft him, as GADGET player
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: and i think he might have. Some success there you're.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Not taking it you're certainly not taking gadget players in the,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: top one hundred not. The top, fifty you know there
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: are some teams that do some things more creative offensively
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: that may say we, can kind, of you know wiggle
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: in a. ROLE for him i wonder if a Team, like,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: the ravens right does you do some of that some
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: of them almost like you're sort of using like a
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: running Back Or like zay Flowers Or. Like. Zay FLOWERS
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: right so i still think, he GETS drafted but i.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Think he was he was projected fringe top fifty pick
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Coming Out. Of, senior bowl right. That's not happening that's.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: NOT happening. TOO i know i always say you don't
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: move players draft stock too much during coming out of
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: the combine outside. Of extenuating circumstances weighing in at one
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: fifty four is, in extenuating circumstance especially when you run
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: a four or five? Tough all right who was? On
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: your list who was? On ear? List all right so
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: you you you did that for one, Of your guys
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: i'll do it for one. Of my guys just both
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: my guys. Just killing me i'll do it for one.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: Of.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: My guys yeah we talked about how awesome the running, back,
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: group was right and they're Great Except.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: For.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Allie gordon yeah part OF the reason I Like all
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: it gordon, Is, on film like there's a reason you
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: don't see a lot of, six foot two six foot.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Three running backs it's hard to be nimble when you're
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: that tall and you have. That Long Legs watching alli,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: GORDON on film, i was like this guy moves pretty
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: well for somebody who's six two. Or six three it
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: wasn't there to combine like he's stumbling through. Those bag
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: drills did not get out of the gate good, on
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: the forty especially in a class that. Is so good
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: he left a lot of meat. On THE bones so
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: i was talking about him as maybe like a fringe top.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: One HUNDRED pick now i think you're probably in that
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: one fifty to two hundred. Range FOR him so i
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: wanted to See More. FORM molly goardon i really want
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: to See More, for molly gordon especially in. THOSE agility
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: drills i THOUGHT that's where i didn't think he was
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: gonna be the best AT him that i thought for
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: his size he would, impress and no he looked like
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: a six foot. Three running back so THE last one
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: i have here is.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: Not necessarily directly Related, To the, Patriots But yeah tyler
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: booker had a rough combine The, guard from, alabama and
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: uh THE reason why.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: I still think he's a first round that guy's. An
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: eagle man you can. Put that in so THE reason
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: why i.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Put him on here is because there's always, a domino,
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: effect right like if one less guy is going to
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: go in, the first round or is going to go
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: in between four, and thirty eight then It impacts the
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: patriots up the Board Or A donovan Jackson Jackson, from ohio,
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: state right like so like they'd always everything always. Has An,
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: EFFECT tyler booker i think is still going to get
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: drafted based.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: ON the tape i think you're gonna. Trust the tape
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: he's gonna get, Think he's no i'm.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: In, first, round, YEAH okay yeah i think a lot
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: of teams are going to still trust the. Tape with
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: him but he would be a out testing outlier to
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: be a first round.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: Pick.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: At guard right not only is, he a guard but
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: he's also. An unathletic guard on, top of that also
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: just people. That were there we Weren't. There On sunday
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: brandon thorne, was there though and some OTHER people. That
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: i trust we're just saying that even in the, on
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: field workout. He looked rough so. Maybe he's hurt maybe
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: like maybe there's an injury there that we. Don't Know
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: About but tyler booker was a guy that a lot
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: of people saw as like a top twenty player, in
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: this class and he did not have.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: A good day i'll give. You, one more yeah kind.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: Of same thing just didn't. Have the Testing And. That's,
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: harold fannin yeah he's, had you know didn't Really Have
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: the senior bowl you were hoping.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: He, would have yeah he was like an average to
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: above average tester and, said.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Right now, he's you know didn't Pop At the senior
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: bowl at THE combine and i thought he looked rough
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: on the on. Field drills too that the blocking rep and,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: it's one rep but that. Was, pretty bad yeah you
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: know the idea OF him being i don't know that
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: he gets into. The top fifty he might go, a
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: little LATER especially when i think the more you learn
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: about this, tight end class, even You know gunner helm
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: was on my list and then he find out he
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: sprained his ankle before. He began, TESTING so like i
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: feel LIKE the more i find out, about this CLASS
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: the more i like from the tight, ends and well
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: all these guys are. GOING one way I Feel like
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: harold fan is. Going, Another Way yeah haarow fan. And
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: terrifies Me, for the patriots it's The, Compass, john why yeah.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: It's Very Easy.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: He's johnny smith it's the scheme touch thing again and,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: it's just yeah like usage. And, All, THAT yeah like
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: i just don't think he's a Great fit. FOR josh
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: McDaniels i, don't, think SO right and. I would worry
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: you know who was good though with that position group
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: that is a Good fit. For Josh. McDaniels robbie oots
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: he had the best vertical of any player over two
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: hundred and seventy pounds since like two thousand and. Three or.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Something that's power that's. Power right there you want we
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: want them to, have, a fullback right we want them
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: to bring the full back back and do, some of
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: that but like maybe modernize it a little bit involving
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: involvement in, The past game oots looked good. CATCHING the
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: football i thought. He tested Well he. LOVES bill O'Brien
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: i got to. Talk to him He raved about bill
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: O'Brien in. The patriots offense we Talked To, little heath
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: evans which was cool throwback name there THAT he knows
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: i Should Have put robbie oots. ON my uplist I regret.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: That i, Didn't all right.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: So that's a wrap. ON the combine i hope you
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: enjoyed all the. Coverage of that we're gonna segue here
• 57:00
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• 57:55
  Speaker 2: By The way tyler lockett is.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: On a In, addition to locke Who Is. In, christian kirk.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, so all there all of the aging slot receivers. Are,
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: getting released, old let's uh let's get this, these CALLS
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: though because i know you guys have been waiting on
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: the line.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: For a while George. Is in? Warwick? What's, up george.
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: Hey, thanks very much appreciate.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: YOU guys anytime, i.
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: You Know watching the bears from a distance And mindful
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: of vraible talking, about you know being aggressive and free
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: agency to allow the draft to. Come to them it
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: Seems like the bears are starting. To execute that what?
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: Do you think what, do you feel you guys the
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: positions that might need to be filled in free agency
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: or trades for that draft to Come to the patriots, If,
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: you will.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Awesome question george thanks for calling in and sort
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: of something we talked about a little bit earlier on.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: IN the show i. LOOK at tackle i still think
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: ideally you don't have to go tackle for overall, in
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: this draft or at, least you Know maybe it's Membo
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: and be you're you're already forming that with a left tackle,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: That you signed so now you're completing the offensive line
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: by making. THAT draft pick i, look AT that and
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: i look AT RECEIVER like i i kind of made
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: The case, for TED earlier but i do love it
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: if you can go out and, get you, know a
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: receiver even two veteran receivers that you feel like you
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: can run, the offense through then you can go one of,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: these pass rushers best player available, At four OVERALL that's where. I,
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: would start, Yeah all right PATTY is an agu?
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: On?
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: What's up patty how? Are we doing.
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: What?
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Is?
• 59:34
  Speaker 7: Going ON joe so i got a got kind of,
• 59:39
  Speaker 7: a funny statement and then throw you. Guys a question
• 59:43
  Speaker 7: so remember two WEEKS ago when, I called, in I
• 59:46
  Speaker 7: said abdul carter Reminded Me. Of von miller now who
• 59:51
  Speaker 7: did he say he molded his game after?
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: At, The?
• 59:53
  Speaker 7: Combine, guys.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Miller.
• 59:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Von, Miller listen patty. Patty's old school been watching
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 7: football for almost. Forty years now i'm not, LIKE you
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 7: know i don't break the film down like. YOU guys
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 7: do i don't pay as MUCH attention as, i used to,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 7: But You know i'm i'm still good for a pretty
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 7: good comp Here AND there god i hope He's THERE
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 7: for but i just wanted, to talk about, you know
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 7: what these. Guys Getting, Released Tyler Lockett. CHRISTIAN christian Kirk
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 7: I Love tyl tyler lockett since. He came out he
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 7: reminded me A Lot, of BEYOND branch but i feel
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 7: like he's a little bit on.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: The.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 7: OLDER side now i would be All In on christian
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 7: kirk to be. Our slot receiver, he's probably, cheaper you
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 7: know less less of an injury Question Than. And chris,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 7: godwin but also like you guys, talked about IT the
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 7: guy i really would love to see them get in
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 7: this Year's Draft is dalen noel, because to me like,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 7: he You know he's i'm Not Comparing, to tyreek kill
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 7: but just, for his size, he's rocked up YOU know.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 7: What i mean he's like, two hundred, pounds he's solid
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 7: and he's so freaking quick and he's so great and
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 7: then out. OF his breaks i don't want to get
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 7: my hopes. Up too MUCH but, like i know you guys,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 7: talked about, him but realistically do you think like that
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 7: would be a reach to take him? At Thirty eight
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 7: and i'll take, it. Off there guys you guys.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: Are, The, best thanks.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: Patty, appreciate it yeah good Shot with von miller that he.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: Nailed that one that that's, a you Know Everybody says
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: michael parsons because he wears eleven and He Plays for
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: penn state and plays the Same Position As Michael parsons
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: abdual carter.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: We're TALKING about but, i you know he.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: Uses a lot of the same Rush Moves, that von,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: miller you know uses that ghost rush and. Things LIKE
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: that SO i can i can definitely see that. To
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: The Receivers so Christian Kirk, and tyler lockett for.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Those, that aren't aware. Are now available they are being
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Released by the Jaguars. And The seahawks christian kirk's a.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: Little bit younger i've always. Liked the eight I've Always.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: Liked christian kirk he has he's banged up a, little
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: BIT though right i think he's had a couple of
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: injury years last.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: COUPLE of years i know he was. Hurt, Last year
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: yeah lockett is one of my favorite receivers. In the
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: league he's. Just, thirty two yeah it's just getting it's catching. Up.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: TO him uh i, WOULD say that i don't know
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: if either one, Of these guys i'm like banging the
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: table for them going. Out AND grabbing if i, HAD
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: to pick i would probably just go with the age.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: And Go with christian kirk and go with.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: The YOUNGER PLAYER but i i want to TRY to
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: and i have a list OF guys that, i YOU
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: know what i would do in FREE agency that i
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: want to get to here. In A second but i
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: Understand The impulse DeVante adams Because, at, least patriots, right
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: you know do, THE mean right I. WOULD take adams I,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: Would TAKE adams but i want to get away from the, Impulse,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: of like okay this is a recognizable, brand name receiver
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: so we need every single one of Those, Should be,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: patriots like yes but.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: It's just because you like one receiver is. A big
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: name shouldn't be accused, Of Doing That like i'm I'm Good. On,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: amari cooper yeah AS much As I love stefan diggs
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: COMING off the acl. That, worries Me, YEAH LIKE adams
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: i i he was in not just one of the
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: worst situations in, football last year two of the worst,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: situations in football because he Went from the Raiders of
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: the jets and still had eighty catches for. A thousand
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: yards even if he drops off by, Twenty, five percent
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: like just knock that production off, twenty five percent he
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: still would Have been the patriots leading. Receiver last year
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: THE only Thing. I love adams i'm not giving him five,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: years or anything but you can get him for two,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Years front loaded like that makes all the sense in the.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: World to me.
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  Speaker 2: So THE reason why i the ONLY reason why i
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be super Gung ho about, adams is like what's
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: his motivation for coming? Here besides money and is he
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: gonna come here and he's. Gonna be paid he's probably
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: gonna be the highest paid guy. In the room like
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: is this gonna be a country? Club for him or
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: is he gonna be is he gonna be trying?
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: To to me the pitch would be if he's getting
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: because he was, he thirty one, two thirty two if
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: he thinks he can get one. More big deal you
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: pitch him, One year contract you offer him significantly more
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: over that one year than anybody's gonna give him for,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: two or three and he knows like he's gonna get
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: a hundred twenty hundred and thirty, targets playing here and
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: now next year you get to hit the market and
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: maybe cash in. One more time that would be the,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: pitch to me and maybe somebody will give him. Longer term,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: security but Like if it's i'm trying to think of
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: the numbers that that wouldn't. Be ridiculous here but if,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: it's like okay if it's if it's a, two year
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: thirty two year thirty, million, dollar deal yeah or a
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: one year twenty, million dollar, deal you say like you're
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: selling him on that one, Year twenty million so next
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: year you maybe go out and get two for forty
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: or two for forty five or. Something like, THAT fair
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: enough I JUST look and i don't know that, he
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: takes that but that WOULD be my i think you can.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: MAKE the pitch i don't know, that IT wins but
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: i think you can. Make the pitch age is a
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: factor for me in. All, of this yeah with, ALL
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: these guys i Don't Love, It DeVante.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: ADAMS tyler LOCKETT i just i WANT to if I,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: WAS the patriots i would just be keeping in mind
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: that you're, in, a window, right, and like yes having
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: a professional receiver on The Team, Like devanta adams and
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: let me, just say this If They, Signed devanta adams
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: i'm not going to have a pitchfork out and like.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: BE rioting That i think i'd be.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Happy about it it's. A professional receiver it's a.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: Really Good one like i'm not saying that it's like
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: this worst move of all time or, anything LIKE that
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: but i just think that you ideally Want A pair
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: drake may with somebody that he has, some runway with
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: that he's gonna.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: Grow with and that he's gonna play with for a. Couple,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: of years yes but if that guy, is not available
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: which he, Might, not be yeah just getting him that to,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: use the phrase he used a professional receiver, in the
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: building even, for one. Year is beneficial I'm not taking,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: adams over like If let's say, higgins, became available, Right
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: you know I'm not Taking. Adams over higgins But if
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: It's Adams or Darius slayton Or Adams or Amari cooper
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: Or Adams. OR stefan diggs I think. It's adams clear
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: adams in a different class than any. Of THOSE guys
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: And i Think kirk and locket are different because it's.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: A DIFFERENT role and i wouldn't load up all. On
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: Older receivers but kirk has been a guy that's been
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty target guy that can can catch
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: a hundred passes and wear the contact over the middle and.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: THINGS like that i know the production was really bad Last.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: Year in jacksonville the offense was really bad Last year
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: in jacksonville, as a Whole Outside, of brian thomas nobody
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: was looking good coming. Out of that i'm not giving
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: him a bunch. Of guaranteed money But If it's christian
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: kirk coming in, to compete, with You Know a jalen noel,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: or xavier 'strepo and maybe he beats them out in
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: year one and they take over later on as, THAT
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: slot guy i think there's. VALUE in that I Don't
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: think christian kirk's gonna cost you a ton as a
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: second option. IN the slot i think that that he'd
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: be a pretty strong signing. In that role if you're
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: signing him to throw him one hundred and twenty passes
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: for the. Next three years you're. Probably, overvaluing him, YEAH.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: So no i, like the idea a Little Bit, of
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: CHRISTIAN kirk, like i mentioned because he's. ONLY twenty eight
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: i still think there's some good football. Left IN there
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: but i made A list.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: Because, i, like lists okay. AND rank it i know
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: you like to. RANK your list, i, tiered, it okay
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: okay just like you do with your. Shopping list exactly
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: so this is, eight, free AGENTS okay that i WOULD
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: sign if i was the general Manager Of The, new
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: ENGLAND patriots which, i am NOT but, if i was
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: THIS is what i would do. In FREE agency and
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: i think it's, a little different at least somewhat than what,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: we're you know some people have thrown out there or.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: What we're hearing these are the EIGHT guys that i.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: Would go after three Of.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: Them are tier one Day one signing monday at, twelve oh, one,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: big money right and then five of Them are, the
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: commander's model right like some of these low nuts and
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: bolts free agent nuts and. Bolts, free agents sure great way.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: To put it here. Are my three i'm gonna say,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: the last one this one FOR last because i think
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: It's this guy we've talked about it, off the air
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: is being very underrated in this. Free AGENCY class but
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: i want to name he's first two. Because They're Obvious
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: right ronnie Stanley Yep Or Cam Robinson right RONNIE. Stanley's
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: plan a but if he doesn't hit free agency, For
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: you know baltimore gets a deal done down, to the
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: wire they, get It done then i'm still.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: Okay With signing by monday. At six pm they should
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: have a left tackle If They.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: Signed cam robinson. IT'S not perfect i know the Game
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: against the rams in the playoffs last.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Year was horrible he's a, solid bridge now like we'll
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: still probably be doing tackle in the, draft next year
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: but you Feel Good about drake may's blind side in.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five THE one thing i want out of
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: this free agency class Is that come, July twenty fifth
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: i'm throwing that date out. Of my butt when, TRAINING
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: camp opens i do not want to Ask who the
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: patriots starting.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: LEFT tackle is i don't want it to. BE a
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: question i don't want To. ASK it april i want
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: TO get to i want to. GET to camp i
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: want to get.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: TO mini camp i want To get TO OTA's and i, want,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: to say hey this is the left tackle right.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: With a sharpie So Where to Ronnie Stanley? Or cam,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: ROBINSON i'm good i don't So and and i'll just follow.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: UP on that i don't know that there's another player
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: available in free agency, that Does That like dan, moore
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: To me dan moore is coming in to compete. FOR
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: the job i don't, know with who but probably a
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: high Draft Pick like dan moore is coming in to compete.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: FOR the job i don't even know who else, available
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: after that, like you Know Like, the Tyron Smith, the
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: morgan mosses like You know That's, Trent browbit no Like. There's,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: ONLY trent's yeah i think he's a free he's not a.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: One year DEAL didn't he. I don't know he was. Hurt,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: last year yeah there's only two guys that definitively answered,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: Left Tackle questions Ronnie Stanley. And cam. Robinson that's it, so,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: that's one yep the Other big money day one.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: Twelve, OH one yeah i would throw an Absolute Bag.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: AT chris godwin i would throw all of the money
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: in The World. AT chris godwin i know he's coming
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: off the injury.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like. That's going well, THAT being.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: Said i JUST look At I, love chris GODWIN h
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: and i also look at the role. That, he plays
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah and then josh McDaniel's offense, the big slot like
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: you can run Entire Offense, Through chris godwin like he
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: is going to be the engine. Of the offense is
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: he gonna be the big play guy. Down, the field
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: no he's gonna be your third.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: Down. Chain mover yeah you know a straw that stirs.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: The DRINK player and i put a. Caveat. On that
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah So remember elliot wolf talked about wanting to make
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: sure they have the right. Intel, on players yep hopefully
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: they have some sort of idea of where he's at
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: because if that if he's behind schedule, On, his rehab
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: like they can't throw a bag. At a guy it's not.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: A perfect comparison like take this with a. Grain of salt,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: two years Ago They Signed juju smith schuster thinking he'd
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: fill a role and because, of his knee he wasn't
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: able to. Fill. A, role yeah right If They're, SIGNING
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: chris godwin i want it to be we're gonna throw
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: A Bag. At chris godwin because he's healthy and we
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: think he can be. An impact player not we're gonna
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: sign him because he's a distressed asset because he's banged
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: up and hopefully he heals to the point where he
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: can make an impact. At, that point no like you
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: need to know that he's healthy. Ready to go this.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: Is another word, if it's well you know he'll be
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: ready to go, for week one but we'll he's. Him,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: in camp no he needs To Work with drake may.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: Throughout the summer they need to get on the same.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: PAGE in theory i love The Idea, of chris godwin
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: but he has to be healthy for that. To make
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: sense bringing him in not knowing where his ankle was
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: at because it was a dislocated ankle that would worry.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: Me a ton so it doesn't worry Me Because. He's
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: chris godwin but But He's. Not chris godwin if, he's, not,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: Healthy well no i'm just saying it.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: Doesn't, WORRY me Like I know chris godwin, Can play
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: football so when he gets healthy and he gets, On
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: the field i'm.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: Not gonna go what if he's not fully healthy Until.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: LIKE late september i don't understand what, the problem is
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: like he's a. TOP ten receiver i don't want ONE
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: of the i don't want it to do this thing
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: again where one of their biggest free agent, signings is,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: rehabbing you know right up, UNTIL week one i think
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: ready to get the risk you. HAVE to take i
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: think It Is what like.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: I'm, just gon like what what is the is? It
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: YOUR money like i, just don't understand like if he's
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: not the guy that they think that, He's, gonna be
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: like you're not gonna give him a five. Of your
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: contract it's gonna be, like three. Years sixty million and then.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: You, said bag yes. It's a. BAG that's YEAH i
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: don't i just can't watch the miss. AT receiver again. I,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: can't watch well you're gonna have to take, some risks.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: THERE my, friend i like all these guys are gonna.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: Come, with some risk like if he're gonna be age
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: or they're, coming off injuries like that's.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: WHY they're Available i guess i'd rather have one Hundred
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: Percent healthy dvante adams than like A Seventy. Percent chris
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: godwin i'd rather take the risk on the age for
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: a guy that had work thousand Yards, LAST year Okay,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: I love. Chriscott i do, If he's, Healthy, i'm in
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: like don't. Get that. Misconstrued i'm paying if, He's fully healthy.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: I'm all in but he has to, be fully. Healthy
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: all right.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: So to round out, my tier, one you know, big,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: Big splashes right So We, have chris Godwin We have
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: Ronnie Stanley, slash cam robinson, whichever it is the.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: TOP tackle available i don't understand why no One's Talking.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: About javon holland couldn't agree. WITH you more i don't
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: understand why no One's Talking. ABOUT javon holland i just.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: Don't get it he's the best free, at this point
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: he was probably the Best Fear and trey. Smith, getting franchised.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah he's an, elite free safety elite elite center. FIELDER
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: they need i have no clue what the Future Holds
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: for jabriel peppers with. THIS football team i also have
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: no clue what was Going On with kyle. Duggar last
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: YEAR but what i do know is that bringing in
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: A Guy, like javon holland who is a dude like,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: as a beast he's also Going To put kyle duggart.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: In his natural. Position, and peers yeah they're back. In
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: the box they're both going to be able to.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: Play, the box, uh you know, guard tight ends, play
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: the box play the slot if you want to play
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: Them as Big Nichols and javon holland is Going To,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: be kevin, byard you know over the top. Of, the
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: defense Yeah Just like kevin Byard was In tennessee for. Vrabel,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: For years right so it's the same exact type Of
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: role as Bayard Was A Pro bowl all pro caliber
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: safety for Multiple Years. Under Mike rabel javon holland's twenty.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: Six years old oh we might need rewind the white.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: See, what conversations okay he's he's twenty, six years old
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: and all of those things to me add up to
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: this guy should Be somebody the patriots are very. VERY
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: interested in i Don't Understand why javon holland is not
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: at the top. Of the list so those would be. My,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: Big three no i'll give your your. Your breaking News it.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: Means, i'll, just say, first real quick If You, get
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: javon holland this IS the, thought i had because, then
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: it's Well let's Say pepper And peppers and dugger do make.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: Their way back how do you get all three of them.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: On the field there was a report from the combat
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: that They're interested In jamie and Sherwood. From The jets
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: jamie sherwood warts two hundred the linebacker weis two hundred.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: And sixteen pounds could You Just turn kyle duggar essentially in,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: your second Linebacker and now pepper's is. Your box safety,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: you're in nickel but one of The linebackers is dougger
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: And then It's, holland.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: Over, yeah, three safety, nickel, three safety dime like all
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: those things are. AVAILABLE TO you i i Just Think,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: that javon, HOLLAND you know i remember talking The year after.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: DEVIN mccordy retired i talked to him for about the
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: kind of the next wave, Of you, Know patriot safeties
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: and the one thing that he pointed out to be
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: is that when it was, him back there everybody, Had
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: a home like everybody knew where they were. Supposed to,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: Go you know devin was going to, Play free safety
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: duggar was going to play down in the box when
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: it was third down with the game.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: On the, line you.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: Know they, knew their spots they knew where they were
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: going to have to go with. These two guys it
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: felt like they had two strong safeties both trying, to
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: you know cause play. As free safeties you sign A
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: Guy like javon holland you, have roles again you have
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: distinct roles and distinct positions in. The back, end all right,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: give the, news all right. Here, we Go Yeah a,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: COORDNEY ian rapport Nfl Network. And tom pellisero wait?
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: Where to go. Here we go seahawks STAR Wide receiver
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: dk metcalf has requested A trade from seattle and the
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: team has decided. To explore it there is likely to
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: be significant Interest In the seattle star and bullsidesel to get.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: IN to it a big time wide receiver who may be.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: On the MOVE forget everything i just said about the
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: wide receiver position. Five minutes ago this. This is it this.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: Is the move this is the. Splash for me so
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: there was a report out Of the combined. He's so
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: excited look at him with. News breaks break he's SO
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: excited because i called this shot like.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: Over the summer YOUR guy is i DON'T believe these
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: i can't believe they're Going To release tyler.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: LOCKETT and trade i told you all they're. GOING to
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: reset i, told you all they're going he's not going.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: To be available they are. Going to reset this was always.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: GOING to happen I will be i. Will stand corrected you.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: Were right on so there was a report Out of
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: the Combine where the. Packers Twenty third the packers are
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: willing to offer twenty third and A Player.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: For.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: Dk Metcalf yeah If, I'M the patriots i take thirty,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: eight sixty, nine bundle, them move up get. Above twenty
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: three you trade that pick and then Either a future,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: day two pick or if there's a Player that, the
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: seahawks want maybe A Guy, like pop douglas MAYBE a guy,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: i Don't Know. Pick, KENDRICK bourne well i think they probably,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: want somebody Younger because the seahawks receivers in that they're
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: gonna be. Their Number one the Seahawks or. The packers
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: receivers in that reported Trade it WAS wix and i
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: forget who the. Other one was, they, Were YOUNG yes
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: so i Don't know. If bourne, were you know If, they, want,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: bourne fine fine.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: Just always seems like We'll Give you kendrick bourne as
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: like the YOU know that i, was, THE ie right
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: i was just.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: Thinking young receiver so, that's WHERE possible and i don't
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: Want To trade pop doug this like if you can
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: get if YOU Can. Get dk, metcalf so AGAIN that's what,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: i would do and that the there is some. Precedent
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: To this the vikings member tried to do this last
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: year where they traded up into the first round about
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: a month, before the draft and then they had two,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: first round picks and the reporting was they were trying
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: to package those two to move up To Get either
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: drake may, or you know just move up to get.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: A better quarterback they ended up moving, up one spot
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: but they. Made Both picks If, I'm the patriots i'm
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: getting on the. Phone Right now the steelers are, at
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: Twenty one the broncs. ARE at twenty i don't know that.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: THEY'D move back i don't remember who's. At twenty Two
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: maybe the vikings, at twenty four and it's a pick
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: below that twenty third Pick, from the packers but you
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: find a way. To sweeten it i'd be on the
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: phones right now trying to MOVE up because i don't
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: think you're Trading. FOUR for metcalf i don't. Think you, are,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: but no no if you can get into the late
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: first where you can compete with that packers offer at
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: twenty three like they should be trying.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: TO do that i, would just offer and not to,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: cut YOU off but i would just offer thirty eight
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: and a twenty.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: Twenty six pick is that going to be more than
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: the packers offering twenty four or twenty three if twenty
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: three's on the table. Like you could so essentially you're
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: going to the, packers and saying or you're Going to,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: the seahawks saying here's what we would have traded for
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: a first round pick, to give you but we'll just
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: give it to you and you can do, the trade yourself. Right.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: Assembly required yep maybe they say we don't want to, do, the,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: trade like no go, Get the first like if you
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: were gonna trade, it for first go. GET the first
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: i just think, that IT MAYBE but I i always
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: i kind of think about it like it gives you
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: flexibility if you take the picks to just then make
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: the picks into what you want to, make, him into
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: right like you know when. You, give him well but
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: if they say we want a, first, ROUND pick.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: YEAH i look i don't think. THAT'S the problem i
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: don't think the trade compensation.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: Is the problem it's. Selling, him out yeah you gotta
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: sell him. On coming here but he already said publicly
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: he doesn't want. To come here give him the lily
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: as million reasons did. Literally asked, him he, said he
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: said didn't want To. Live In massachusetts rhode island is not,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: a long commute.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: He literally asked got asked about this on a podcast
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: and looked into the camera And He said new england he.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: Was asked about literally. Made that face give him thirty,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: five million dollars give him, thirty. Five million Reasons And
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: The green bay packers aren't gonna give him thirty. Five
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: million dollars they the count flexibility papers have hi give,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: him thirty six give. Him thirty seven this. Is the
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: guy this is the guy every single. Box for them
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: you can't just force him. To come here he has
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: control over. Where he goes we all would love to
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: drive To The freaking logan airport right NOW And pick
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: dk metcalf up and. Bring him here we'd. All love
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: that it's. Not like that if you put thirty eight
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: million on the table, and, he says no it is,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: what it is that's. What's, Gonna happen okay but put
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: the money on the table and. See What happens don't no.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: One's saying differently i'm just telling you to be. Real
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: money talks, don't under it don't just be, a dollar
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: over don't like make it. Worth his while he doesn't want.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: To be here he's made.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: That abundantly clear so unless you're, gonna come in everybody's
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: gonna offer him the going.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: Rate for a player of. His, COUNT overpay okay i
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: would PAY for dec.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: I think that's so, easy, to say like, just all
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: right just go out do what you did.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: To me earlier it's.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: NOT your money i don't care. ABOUT the money i
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: care the. PLAYER himself is i think it's so much
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: easier said than done to just keep throwing money at
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: the guy and being like more and more and more here,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: to take, it take it to.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: Make him really, think about it not make it hard.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: To say no THAT'S all.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: ABOUT i would i would love To have dk metcalf on.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: This football team this is not a question of do you.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: Or don't you this, is an obvious absolutely one hundred percent.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: Slam dunk yes like this is a. Yes yes yes
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: he is not gonna want, To COME here and i hate,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: to say that but it's just the, god dang truth
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: like you are going to have to offer him so
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: much money that it is inconceivable.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: For to say there's been plenty of, guys who, say
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: you know it's kind of, the, inverse like, WELL YOU
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: Know i i. I'D never leave i, LOVE this team i,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: love this city, blah blah blah and then the money's
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: on the table. And they leave you can, change people's,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: MINDS all right i.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: Hope you're Right i'm just i'm preparing myself to. Not get,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: Hurt THAT'S IT LIKE i i i am preparing myself
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: for the fact that this is he's gonna. Want To
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: Go The green bay packers. Make total sense that is
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: a team that is a dk metcalf away from Being a.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: Super bowl team that makes a whole. Lot Of Sense
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: the san Francisco forty nine ers make a whole. Lot
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: of sense They Just. Traded deebo, samuel you know we
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: don't know what's Gonna Happen. With brandon nyuk we Don't
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: Know if brandon nyuk is gonna be one hundred percent.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: For next season that makes a whole. Lot of sense
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: these are teams that he's gonna be able to go
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: to at the going rate for the type of player.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: That he is that are gonna Be In the super
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: bowl next year with him. On their roster That's. Not
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: THE patriots and I just if i'm DK METCALF like i,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: i don't, know everybody says just offer him. The most
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: Money They offered calvin ridley the most money And he.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: Took tennessee's, offer.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: It was but the whole thing was like the, gap,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: wasn't significant right the gap between what They offered when tennessee.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: Offered wasn't significant. Make it significant i'll. Say this too
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: he's not. A free agent he, requested a trade yet
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: we don't like How flexible is seattle gonna be with?
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: What he wants What if the patriots trade, offers significantly
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: better that's. A good point so that is a good
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: point in. Terms of.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: That but at, the Same, time like brandon we Did
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: This with brandon nyuk Last Year and, brandon nyuk said you.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: Can, make The trade but i'm not signing An extension
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: doing why didn't brandonyk WANT to sign. I, don't know
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: no hen want to be here because he. Didn't, trust
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: quarterback okay because he was unsure about the quarterback position
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: that should no longer. Be an issue.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: It's so different it's so different than saying it should
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: no longer be an ISSUE When like dk metcalf could
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: Go Play with jordan love or he could Go.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: PLAY with Drake I. Love drake May it's just i'm
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: looking at it from, the, PLAYER perspective right. I get that.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: I get that i'm not sitting here telling you that
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: because he, requested this trade, snap your fingers he's going To.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: Be A patriot what i am, TELLING you is i
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: don't care what he said. In The past the patriots
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: should do everything in their POWER To get Dk Metcalf.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: To new england they should not follow the playbook they
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: followed the. Last few years they Should extend for metcalf
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: beyond what They, extended for ridley beyond what They, extended
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: for ayuk beyond what They Extended for DeAndre hopkins a,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: Few years ago beyond any of these guys better player than.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: Any OF that but i, think They would like my
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: POINT is is i think they would have done That
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: With the Calvin Ridley if calvin, ridley, Was better Right
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: Like if CALVIN Ridley.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: Was T higgins so. Metcalf, is BETTER yeah and i think.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: THEY'LL do it i just don't think. He'll take it
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: we'll see if it'll. Work or not he's gonna have
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: like half a dozen teams that are gonna be giving
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: him the. Same exact thing we'll give him something a
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: little more than the. SAME exact point i wish it.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: WAS that easy i wish it, was THAT easy. LIKE
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: i do i wish it was that you were the
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: best financial offer on the table and he, turns it
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: down and like buy a significant amount and he. Turns,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: it down yeah what can you do if you're if,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: you're trying, to you know go on the margins to
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: get by the. Next closest team, they need him they
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: should be more aggressive for him than. The packers should
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: let me put, It that way who?
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: NEEDS they SHOULD i just i am PROTECTING myself because
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: i just know that he's going to.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: Pick an up i've been talking about this, for MONTHS
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: now so i have no choice but to continue. To,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: hammer it okay You think now i'm going to. Shut
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: it down i've been saying for. Months, And, Months. Metcalf
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: metcalf metcalf now he actually requested to be The day
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: that i'm not.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: Going to, happen all right let's let's get back, to
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: this list because we have seventeen emails TELLING Us that
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: dk metcalf.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: Requested to, trade we. KNOW we know i appreciate. Everybody tagging,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: me we know, UH and uh i see you there.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: On the phone so let me just go through this
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: REALLY quickly because, i did this all this homework and
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: now this, all you know gets blown up in the middle,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: of the show and we'll get, to your emails in
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: your and your calls here to, wrap things up here
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: are the, FIVE you know i don't know what you want?
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: To call them what did?
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: You call them nuts and? Bolts free agents these are
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: the five nuts and. BOLTS free agents i Would go after.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: Levi?
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: On was?
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: On was on can? You?
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: Say?
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: IT on what i have to see it? To? Say
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: It on who? Zuo Rookie is how I'm gonna say
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: it's one of THOSE ones that i have to read
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: it to be able to Was with the lions Last.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: Year with terrell williams. In that room defensive line, Room,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: really solid uh, just you, know all around kind of
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: three four and, four to three maybe plays, the three
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: tech maybe plays the backside end like he's just one
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: of those guys that's just gonna come in and.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 6: Do.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: The job right he's a lunch pale kind of guy,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: in my mind not exactly, the same PLAYER but like
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: i think He Would. Replace dietrich wise he's kind of just,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: like a younger Better Version. Of, Dietrich Wise Right, So,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: levi onzrouski uh the NEXT player that i. HAVE on
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: here i really like the idea of taking A Flyer,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: on azizo jalari former. High draft pick it, plays the
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: edge can play that four three end, kind of role
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: like Almost Like a harold landry. TYPE of player i
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: really liked the idea of him coming here getting Schooled
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: up By Rabel. And terrell williams maybe you get him
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: to that ceiling that, they you know people saw, in the,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: draft you know, high draft pick that. Kind, of thing
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: again not gonna bake the, brank for him but just
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: another guy that you could say that you have a
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: starting Edge player with, ojalari coming, here you know just
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: a safe a. Safe bet there, THE next one i gotta,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: Have two here i'd go with either is, fine, with
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: Me uh Dj Reed. Or, Risul douglas right just sign
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: another starting caliber corner that can play.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: On the, outside but, yeah in Theory, either ONE ward
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: So I have javarious ward IN a Different i think
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: award's gonna make a little bit more money on. These.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: TWO guys uh i actually really like the the floated
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: idea that's already Out there Of. JAMIE and sherwood i
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: think he's a, good football player, prototypical linebacker nowadays a,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: little bit undersize but can fly. Around make plays nice
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: little Compliment There. To juwan bentley you can put him
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: in a little bit more, high coverage stress high stress
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: coverage situations than what you can do with the linebackers
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: that are currently. ON the roster i really like The.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: Idea of sherwood he's gonna play, Weak side linebacker. He's
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: gonna playage You're Gonna put juan bentley, next to him
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: who's gonna. Be the thumper that could really work out
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: with the two of those guys next. To each other the,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: last ONE here which i feel is another under LIKE discussed.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: Point i had.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: PATRICK McCarry down i would also be game for One
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: Year of KEVIN zeitler because i just think he's a really.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: Good football player. But left guard left guard is A
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: spot that i would try to fill in free agency
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: on a on. A lower, Term You, Know Tevon, jacob tevin,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: jenkins excuse me as, a free agent, really good player
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: but he's probably gonna be pushing fifteen million dollars a year.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: ON a contract i wouldn't necessarily invest that much In
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: guard with on when. He already paid but a guy
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: like McCary makes a lot of sense because he can,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: play multiple spots so he can basically just put out
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: fires for you on a. Week week basis you're signing
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: him to, play left guard he's probably gonna, play left
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: guard but let's say you get in a month into
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: the season and your right tackle goes down with a.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: Short term injury McCary can kick out and play a
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: little bit of tackle too for you for a game
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: or two and just. Get By THERE uh so i
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: like him as sort of a likely starting left guard if,
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: If You know leyden robinson comes into camp and he's
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: a stud and you don't need him to. Play left
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: guard now now he's your sixth offensive lineman and he's
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: kind of your top back up. At Multiple, SPOTS uh
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: So i. Like patrick McCarry so my hall to sum
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: this Up Would, Be Javon holland CHRIS Godwin or dk
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: metcalf if that, Dream Comes true Ronnie Stanley slash cam
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: robinson And, Then, on, Ziwuki Ojalari. McCary rasseull douglas let's
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: Call it In. Jamie and sherwood i'd signed those eight
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: guys not. On My, list milton williams who is gonna
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: be the?
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: Guy they signed they're, gonna sign you uh.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: Does Really Quickly. ON milton williams I Worry about milton williams.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: A little bit i worry that he is a complimentary
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: piece to a really, Good defenseensive line Like You have
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: jalen carter, next to Him You have Nolan Smith and
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: josh sweat coming. Off the edges he is the. Weak
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: WEAK link and i say that meaning like that whole line,
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: is stacked right but he is, the fourth, string you know,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: on that line.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: He's getting a lot of.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: One on ones he probably is rushing on your on
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: a backup Guard In, the super bowl right Like when
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: the chiefs have, offensive line issues like he's the guy
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: that's not getting. The double teams he's the guy that's getting.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: On the backups He's Feasting because jalen carter's got six, guys, on,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: Him RIGHT right and i would just worry a little.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: Bit About That, with milton williams, he's also undersized so
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: he only played forty eight percent of the snaps Last.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: Year in philadelphia is kind of a rotational player for them,
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: In passing situations like is he a? Three down player
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: is he A Product of jalen carter being? Next to
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: him is that a guy that you're gonna pay twenty?
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: MILLION dollars to i say all this knowing that that's
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: the guy that everybody's telling. Me THEY'RE targeting and i
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: wouldn't if they Sign. Him on, Monday i'm NOT just
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: like i Said Earlier, about, DeVante adams like i'm not
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: gonna be.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: Mad, About it right he's a.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: GOOD football player i think he'll be. A good addition
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: i just DON'T know if i would make him like the,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: prized you know signing of my.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: Free, agency class yeah he's. A good player. I'm with
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: you if he's the best player they walk away FROM
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: this from i think they probably left a little meat.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: On the bone But Especially with christian barmore's status up,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: In the air like you do need, an attacking defense
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: you need another one for those. Defense to work so
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: it kind Of LIKE with javon i almost feel kind
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: of similar to him as They Do. WITH javon Holland
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: i think holland is, a better player, but it's like
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: does he play the biggest? Position? Of need no is
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: he one of the? Best players available and just get? Good?
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: Players in yes so the reason, why You Know, WITH
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: milton williams i also hesitate. A little bit i think
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: there's probably About A dozen milton williams is.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: In, This DRAFT yeah and i don't, Think THAT'S exaggerating
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: like i think that You can find You Can.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: FIND milton williams i think he's, a good player but you.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: Can find that part of The Value with milton williams
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: is this is a guy that Just Won, a super
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: bowl was Part of an eagles team that a. Really good,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: culture you know he's a, guy you're building you're bringing
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: in to be a buildings and he's a proven combined
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: right and what he's what twenty, six years old so
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: he's one of the Young. Guys in philadelphia you're bringing
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: him in to be somebody the rest of your roster
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: is looking to for, how it's done and you're not
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: obviously like the. Rookies are talented you're not gonna get that,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: from a rookie not to the same extent you're gonna
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: get it. From a guy how many guys they have
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: left on this team that Have Won a, super bowl anywhere, not?
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: Just here anywhere it's Not.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: Me dj wwise, A Free, Agent David, Andrews.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: David, Andrews Joe cardona jonathan, Jones free, agent so like it's,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: not that many and there is like this is not
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: something we've ever really had to talk About Here, in.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: New england yep but we're kind of getting that point
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: where you want a couple of guys on the team
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: who have wanted a high level because there's just sort
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: of a authenticity that comes with that if they're in.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: A LEADERSHIP role so i think that's part of The
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: Draw with milton Williams or any eagles player, for that matter,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: or you know if you were to get a Guy,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: from THE chiefs like i think that's part. Of THE
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: reason and, I you know i would have liked To
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: see the patriots Maybe Go after joe toney when he,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: Was MADE available but i think that's part of the
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: reason that may move makes so much Sense. For the
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: bears that's a young football team and you're bringing The Guy.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: In joe toney has any active player One More. Than,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: joe toney yeah he's gonna be tremendous to set the
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: culture there and help build a program. AROUND fair enough
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: I Don't.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: HATE millon williams I just, LIKE i said i just
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: have some Reservations, mainly about okay now that he's gonna
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: if he Comes Here in New England and barb moore is,
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: not healthy right and now he's the guy, that everybody,
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: is you know preparing their game plans and their past,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: protection you know off of is like we Got To.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: Block milton?
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: Williams you know is he gonna be the type of
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: guy that can still get pressure and still cause disruption
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: When He's getting jalen carter type attention instead of. The
• 1:33:52
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  Speaker 2: right let's get.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: TO the phones i will. Say Real, quick jacob morley,
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: who's a. PACKER a writer i don't know if he's a. Report,
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: or whatever yes this kind of reads. Like a report i'm,
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: not that, sure but UH Just. Put dk metcalf My
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: Guess is new england is willing. TO outbid, EVERYONE i.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: Mean i hope so, he ALSO added and i don't
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: know if this is him thinking or if, it's a
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: report but he did Note. THIS plus may i don't
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: think it is that hard of A. Cell, FOR dk.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: Okay i hope, maybe the, coach you know MAYBE the
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: but i think that Podcast happened after rabel was.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: ALREADY the coach I mean the rabel was the, COACH
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: so Quick i think rabel. WAS the COACH i think
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: i don't think.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 3: It.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: Was McDaniels though let me, ask you this do you
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: think part? Of the cell and this is kind of
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: indirect the answer this, MIGHT be no i might be.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: Grasping and STRAWSIER you are dk metcalf a little bit
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: SIMILAR Stylistically. To aj brown Do You think mike rabel
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: can go to him, and be like LOOK at what
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: I Did, For aj brown come? Do? THAT here yeah
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: i guess it would help more If He had, Matt lafleur,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: HERE but yeah.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know i think TO Sell for dk metcalf
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: Is All as mike rabel said.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: About his money it's all about it's money at the end.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: Of the day but and it's not the grass Out.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: Here at foxborough it's the other. Kind of, Green all
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: right let's get to uh? The phones here Will? Is in?
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: Kentucky what's Up.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 7: Will a bones?
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 4: MAKEING weird, noises i think, first of ALL, WITH the dk.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: Dk said that he didn't like The, state of massachusetts
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: but He.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 4: Liked the patriots.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: He did say that he did talk highly about the
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: organization he because the question was would you want To, live,
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: in MASSACHUSETTS which again i will, Say Half jokingly rhode
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: island is not.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: A far commute, second of all on the Arms Measurements,
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: with WILL campbell am i the only one That Noticed
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: that algie trapeo measured in at?
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 5: Thirty?
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 4: Three, INCHES.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: Uh no a lot of these guys actually are. Shorter
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: armed tackles uh you know Are around that isn't?
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: That really weird guy has thirty Three inch on.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: What do you make of? THE report, that i mean it's.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: Not a report some of the guys that also measured
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: In At the senior bowl measured in Shorter. At, the
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: COMBINE yeah so i do wonder do You remember what
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: Trapeo Measured.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: Into, senia BOWL no but i do wonder if some
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: of these measurements the teams do their own measurements when
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: they have these guys.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: IN for visits i, think We Got, like will campbell
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: that's absolutely gonna.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: Be, a thing yeah because of how inconsistent the measurements
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: Were From The all star Games, TO the combine i
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: think teams might Have, their own uh they.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: Might measure themselves he was thirty three and a half. By,
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: the way yeah so maybe the.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: PATRIOTS measure, themselves, I mean look i as long as, It's,
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: over threshold will and thanks.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: For, the, sorry no yeah as long as it's.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: OVER the THRESHOLD i honestly I, understand before kelly it's,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: a Little weird but i'm not too worried about it in.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: TERMS of, that, i MEAN really what i was more
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: worried about at six foot eight is, is you know
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: bending ability to get down and really sit in and
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: be able to. Block those, Guys You know nate solder
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: had a lot of.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: Problems, with that.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah the couple guys in this draft that, are six
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: eight the longest one had four thirty four and. A,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: half intons.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah they're Making, the thanks will thanks. For the call
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: we just got a lot. Of people waiting we Haven't
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: Talked at. Colin pierce yet we have a lot of
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: we have a lot of short arm tackles, in this
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: class a lot of thirty three thirty three. And A
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: Half even JOSH simmons was i think thirty three, on
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: the nose and You Know the calvin banks was thirty three.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: And a half, really long wingspan but like not not
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: particularly long, group in general which is why there's a
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: lot of talk about are, these guys, guards you know
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: like there's been a lot of that, even For banks
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: like banks has gotten some of that, guard, you know
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: yep flex type.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: Of stuff, Too all right Eric Is. In new? Jersey? What's?
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: Up eric.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 4: Hey how?
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 6: We?
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 5: Doing?
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: That hey?
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: Good all right so a potential trade ALLFER here and
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 3: i know it May Be In la, la LAND here but,
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 3: i was thinking Look At. The indianapolis colts they. Got
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: four receivers You Just drafted donnie, mitchell last Year You,
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: Got Josh, down Alex Peers. AND michael Pittman I think
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 3: alex pierce could, be a low LOWER. Level one b
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: he's coming up on the last year. Of his contract
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 3: you can GET that outside xd guy still have a
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: year of control to kind of work out a contract
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: and kind of see how it works Out Here. IN new,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: england i mean you're obviously going to have to give up,
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: something value obviously think that maybe Maybe Gave. Up joe,
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: MILTON you know i don't know, how you know particularly,
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 3: sold they, are you know The Future, of ANTHONY richards
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 3: and i know the coach is going to be kind
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 3: of on the hot seat here about kind of what
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 3: are Your Thoughts on alex pearson kind of probably bring
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 3: them in. To the folds i'll take it, off, the,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 3: Line thick.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: Guys well just a grab a Receiver from the Colts
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: Is out Alec Pierce. For, joe milton okay well that's
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: not maybe there was. MORE in there i do wonder
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: if You Could throw JOE Milton a dk, metcalf trade
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: though because they don't have a long term option A,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: Quarterback beyond Yeah i'm with.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: FELGER on this i was listening to that, you guys,
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: yesterday and uh he was like some Of The the
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: joe milton does not have.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: The value that a lot. Of people think WELL there's
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: reason i said throw, In a, trade like Okay Like
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: maybe joe milton, is this, is you know the equivalent
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: of like a fourth round pick. In the Trade well
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: what i'm saying so again that the Reported deal for
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: Metcalf from the, packers was, like you know twenty three and.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: A young receiver could you maybe swap out that young receiver?
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: For young quarterback possibly that's what like you'd still have.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: To give up you still gonna have to probably move
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: up get a. First round pick trade that, trade another
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: pick but instead of adding the young wide receiver. As
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: a Sweetener You. Add joe milton i'm not somebody that
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: really Wants Some trade joe milton unless they get blown
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: away if it's to, Get, metcalf though yeah. You, DO it?
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah i? Agree all right Mark. Is in Connecticut? What's,
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: that mark.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 4: Hey guys?
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 6: Love the combine uh take thank you you guys.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 4: Thinking on that those are.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 6: Really good, Stuff, AS always evan i am in line
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 6: With You, on chris godwin, pay the man Great receiver for.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 6: JOSH McDaniel's offense i think he's, gonna be really really
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 6: a good player for us if they can get. The
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 6: deal done the other Thing Was if tyler warren is
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 6: not available. When we pick what is The Consensus? On
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 6: mason taylor watched this kid. At the combine. He looks
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 6: good he almost Looks Like a hutter henry. Type of
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 6: replacement definitely for the future for the. Next eight years
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 6: wanted to get you guys's. Take, on Him.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: YEAH thanks mark i Don't Think that hunter henry is
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: a horrible comp. Honestly, makes sense, uh you know, natural
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: pass catcher maybe not, gonna you know jump off the
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: tape at you with. Explosiveness and speed but just kind
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: of gets the job, done fast, enough you, know quick
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: enough those types of, Things with him he's a he's a,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: really good player probably. DAY two guy i still think
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: third round is probably the Sweet Spot.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: FOR mason TAYLOR i think i think He's the third
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: he's probably third tight, end, Class now Right so if
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: loveland goes the, first Round List.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: It's elijah, royo you know just from the Receiving upside
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: of royal is a, little bit, faster you know like
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: he's a little bit more of a seam runner that
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: can threaten the.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: Seam.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: Threatened CROSSERS uh but i look at, those, two guys,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: Uh you know as is probably, in in, line you
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: know fighting for for that tight. END three Spot i
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: Think warren and loveland are in categories, of their own
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: and then those, those two, guys and, UH you know
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: I still think fannin is gonna be. In that discussion
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: Uh turns For auson from oregon is going to be.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: In That discussion gunner helm will be. In that discussion those,
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: types of, PLAYERS all right i know what this call Is.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: ABOUT from aldred i know what this, Call. Is about
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: eldred what are you?
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: Giving? Up for dk metcalf my? Friend how much hey
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: tell us?
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 5: That y'all, Doing hey, Good hey bar, i'm. WITH you
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 5: man i was talking on twenty nineteen at THE draft
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 5: get dk and They got A harry and i told
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 5: her about The draft in hairy gonna be a bus?
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 5: In TWO years and i was right. On BOTH ends
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 5: but i traded NUMBER? Four for dk who you got?
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 5: It for WITH? Better THAN dk but i would try
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 5: to get they get they number one or? Day number
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 5: two who who you?
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: Got it FOR?
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 5: Better? Than dk metcalf.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: Nobody, on, the board nobody.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: BUT you're not i don't think you have to GIVE.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: A four dk i think the.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: Real question is let's say it's it's four back To?
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: Eighteen for metcalf would? YOU do that I think the
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: seahawks for eighteen wherever they are eighteen nineteen. Somewhere, In
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: THERE yeah i'll i. Would do that i'd. Probably do
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: that that might. BE the trade i, would do, IT
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: not bad i.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 5: Would do it. In a, Heartbeat, ALL right yeah i have. A, Good.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: ONE Thanks eldred i i'm glad. You called in eldred
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: is the. Along with you alex IS The biggest dk
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: metcalf plan fan on the let let's unpack that. For
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: a second So we're sure.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: Seahawks are at Eighteen, BEFORE we yeah i want to
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: FIND the exact i literally was just looking for The
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: number because i'm gonna HAVE to take i was. Probably
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: the Number so the seahawks. Are, At eighteen Yes so the,
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: patriots trade FOUR Yeah for dk metcalf in eighteen eighteen
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: and they probably have to kick in more than just
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: Four Called the matthew jude one. Pick, seventy seven.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: Sure and they moved. Back, to eighteen yeah in, a
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: crappy draft the job in. A, crappy draft yeah they
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: moved back to eighteen AND They. GET Dk metcalf i i'm.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: In on that i'm so. Sign of, papers.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: Everybody, wins right yeah get a much better. First, round
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: Pick yeah THE Patriots. Get dk metcalf they picked somebody
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: at eighteen who's, still gonna help but you don't have
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: to overdraft.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: Somebody at four probably gonna get one of. THOSE pass
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: rushers yea, a sweet, spot You, Know Samar, stewart james
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: pierce those. Sorts, OF guys yeah i think we might
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: have just come. Up with SOMETHING and if i gotta
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: Throw In the Jude on pick i'll throw on sixty
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: nine even doesn't need, be seventy seven one of those, third,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: ROUND picks right i just feel LIKE if you, I
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: don't know i DON'T know for i don't know.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: If, That's, enough right like if YOU'RE now granted dk
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: metcalf is seeking a trade he Wants, OUT of seattle
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: i don't know how much Leverage, they NECESSARILY well.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: Let's i think they're. Gonna, have leverage yeah and lets.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 2: Look at the forty Nine ers with auke they ended up.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: Getting it done, and you know.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: Let's work in what the offer that is reported, on
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: the table which is twenty three and. A young receiver
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: would you rather add the? Twenty THIRD pick and i
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: have two, first round picks would you rather add the
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: twenty third pick or move from? Eighteen to four, In
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: this draft i'd rather move, up another year, It, might
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: be yeah, In this draft i'd, rather move up especially
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: if they're getting intel That Like maybe. Travis, HUNTER'S available,
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah i right, AND you know i just look, at, this,
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: draft like, Yeah BY eighteen and i know this is
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: kind of talking both sides of MY mouth because i
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: Just said the patriots could still get. A, fine player
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: yeah you're probably not getting a true difference Maker at
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: a you Know, what the, seahawks oddly enough really need this.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: Is a guard they really. Need a guard and they
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: are a team that can afford probably to take a
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: guard that high because they have some other. Pieces in
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: place they also.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: Are a team that has continuously kicked the quarterback can.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: Down the road. That is true do they like should say?
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: They could do They Could probably the seahawks could probably
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: make better use of the fourth Pick than. The patriots
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: could maybe we're being delusional.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: And talk talking, ourselves into this but like This is
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: a this is the First time where i've said that
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: actually COULD. Work for dk would You agree the Seahawks
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: could make who's easier to project with?
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: The Fourth pick The? SEAHAWK and patriots.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: I Would say PROBABLY seattle because I look at seattle as,
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: A Quarterback Team like Gino Smith, is gino smith like he's.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: A fine quarterback they're never gonna get over The Hump.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: With gino, Smith he's. Not he's not they're not gonna
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: do any Real Winning. With gino? Smith you know do
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: they get up to four by making a trade like
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: this and then even pull off another trade and they
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: end Up with cam ward right, or you know or
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: they end up.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: You know with or if they don't or if they
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: don't love either, of these quarterbacks you get. The quarterback tacks,
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: you move down you get a FUTURE first and i
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: have two first round, picks next year you better position to. Get,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: that guy yeah as opposed to. From twenty three you're
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: just drafted and. It's not nothing but you're just drafting
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: a player. At, twenty three Yeah and the patriots can be.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 3: At.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: At eighteen, uh you know there's gonna be probably a
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: couple of different options for them that they're.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: Gonna like it they're probably because you have the wide receiver,
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: box check, right you're not.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: But you could even Draft like a you can start
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: talking about Drafting Like a josh connerly in.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: That, Spot, too RIGHT well, let's i mean do we
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: want to really play. The fantasy out YOU Trade, for
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: dk Metcalf You, Sign Cam, robinson ronnie stanley you can
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: do whatever you want. With.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: That, PICK yeah YEAH i mean I think ed russher
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: or defensive line is going to be where the best
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: player is, at that point probably just based off of
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: the depth.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: Of THAT position but i or even maybe now A
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: Guy like jahad campbell's. In, the converse yeah you get that. Linebacker,
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: defensive playmaker, yeah all right we might. Have done it.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: We will, see all right there's a good over under
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: IN here that i wanted to or not an not,
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: an over under a you know what? Would you rather
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: but we'll read This one From. Sean first john he
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: just has a list of, a free agents none of
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: them huge names like these are more a couple of
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: big names but mostly.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: Lower. Level guys Uh why just i'll just do rapid
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: fire through these names and you tell me? Yes or no? How? About?
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: That Okay NICK Nick, Westbrook, a kine YEAH you know
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: i like Him and. The raabel CONNECTION He. No dk
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: metcalf but if he's like kind of like We, talked
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: about christian if he's, a complimentary guy if he's like
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: your third Guy like him douglass AND then an x to.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: Be, named, Later yeah okay i'm in sounds a Little
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: Bit like kendrick born in. Twenty twenty one.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: Different, sort of, player but yeah i'd. Say Similar, role
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: draymond jones. Big. Defensive, tackle yeah yeah, like you said
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: like they can get a guy. In, THE draft yeah
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: i wouldn't hate if, they SIGNED him but i don't
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: think he's a guy they. Needs to sign speaking for
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: a big, At His position carlton. DAVIS the cornerback I Do. Like, Carlton,
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: Davis yeah hell davis Is the corner i've won yet
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a rough, year, Last, YEAR right
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: yeah i he was kind. Of danged up he's getting.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: A little older but as a Veteran, work with gonzalez
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: a guy to play, the, SECOND spot yeah i. Would
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: be in i'd RATHER Him over dj REID honestly because
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: i think they Need The, size josh. Sweat. Bigger, Name,
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: YEAH yeah yeah i don't think. They're going, to but
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: yes doesn't sound like.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: They're, going to uh sounds like, they kind of at
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: least based. Off the reports it sounds like they Kind
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: Of think josh sweat was the guy that was benefit for,
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: me everybody else which could be the ONLY reason Why I.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: LIKE josh sweat i probably wouldn't pay twenty million. Dollars,
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: for this yeah but it's a little bit like we
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: were talking about with. The linebackers before somebody needs to
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: get the quarterback, on, The ground right so like maybe
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: the pressure is coming from, up the middle or maybe
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: the pressure Is Coming from Milton Williams or Mason Graham
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: Or Christian. Barmore kean white but those guys are, not,
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: sack guys right. They're Pressure Guys so josh sweat comes
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: in and he just, cleans, it up right and if
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: he has, twelve cleanup, sacks next year someone got, the,
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: quarterback down right someone got us off the field? On,
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: Third down Right, Drake green, Law deuce Guy. Dray green
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: law he's coming, off, an, injury, Right, Yes Yeah no, zach,
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: bond no see HE'S the guy i really think was
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: benefiting from The.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: System, FROM fanjio yeah i think he was a, really good.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: SITUATION good player i don't think he's gonna be Worth
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: to the patriots what he's worth to.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: Some other teams different player reminds me a Little Bit
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: of Van Noy, with, bill belichick right, like, we're like.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah like, just, perfect here yeah and that was. What it, was,
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: And yeah no i'm Good On, zachon, nick, BOLTON yes
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: yes i pff has was like the thirtieth, best FREE
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: agent which i. Think is nuts we Were Both big
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: nick bolton guys, in that draft and every year we've
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: got to watch and make Plays In. The, super, bowl,
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah Definitely You know, nick bolton, yep all right?
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: Is that it those are the those are.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 7: The.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: Main ones yep, another question here. Draft Question, yep uh
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: so earlier, in the year this IS this is i.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: Think pretty accurate earlier in the Year It was Will Campbell, versus, calvin,
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: banks right yeah for the.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: Top tackle spot.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: Now it Feels like It's. Campbell VERSUS membo but i
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: understand why post. Measurements and combine It's not Now. Banks
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: versus membo so basically because. Of the, Combine you know
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: banks and memboo both checked that. THIRTY three threshold i.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: Guess it's not.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: IT could be I think The membo versus campbell debates
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: are who's gonna be the first? Offensive lineman taken not
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: necessarily he's gonna be, the first tackle but overall. OFFENSIVE
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: lineman taken I Don't think kelvin banks is in the
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: conversation to be the. First, lineman taking no it's that's
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: a good way. To Put, IT like membu i think
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: through the pre draft Process. Is, past banks yeah and
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: it's it's, tackle versus guard not one tackle versus.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 6: THE.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: OTHER tackle yep i, agree with that, and you know
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: The Thing, with calvin banks he has fallen a, little
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: too much like he's kind of gotten a. Little Too Player,
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: BUT calvin banks i think the BIGGEST thing that i
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: see with him is like the more space he's in,
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: in pass protection the less body, control he has so
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: like when he expands and he gets out into on
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: an island, in pass protection it's very he doesn't redirect
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: very well or changed. Directions very well so like when
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: you get, those like, twitchy you know explosive rushers that
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: can go, inside or outside like he has a tough
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: time staying in front of a lot. Of those guys
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: he's a power run. Blocking, first guard? Right excuse ME
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: is how i. WOULD describe him i don't think it's
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: all That Different. From, will campbell honestly. It's different players.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: HE'S better reach i get, what you're saying but it's
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: it's a. Little, it's different.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah IT'S different but i would, say that, that's you
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: know the knock that you hear Most Consistently with calvin
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: banks is how good is he going to be? In
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: pass protection because of, his body controlling his change of direction,
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 2: ability on tape it gets a little dicey.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: Sometimes for.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: Him out, there all right this is A One, from
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: David maine and i've tried to answer this question a.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: Million different ways hopefully you can maybe help me out. Of,
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: your alps well you please explain how one inch of
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: arm length can be that big of. A deal breaker
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: i can't wrap my. HEAD around it.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is the threshold used to be.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: Thirty Four Inches then rashaan slater comes in plays a
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: great left tackle at, thirty three inches so everybody opens
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: their mind up to. Thirty three inches so when we
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: go from thirty four to thirty three to thirty, two and,
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: five a's like think about how, far we've come especially.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: When players are getting bigger and people say that's. Only,
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: two inches well, first of all it's an inch really.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: On each side. Because you're measuring the measurement is one arm.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: The other thing and this is, a little abstract but
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: maybe this is the best way. To Put It and
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: bob soci wrote a great piece on this on ninety
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: Eight five the Sports on dot com. Earlier this week
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: think back to the. Opener this season do you remember
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: how that? Game was decided Which game chiefs ravens first game. Of,
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: the year no it was a, Long, time ago isaiah likely, by. A,
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: toe right yeah what we'll just say it was like
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: two a three ace, of, An inch right that's just.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: How football works sometimes it is really. On the margins
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: there is no tangible way, to show it but you
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: see it. In The Results it kenbrell tompkins. In the
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: pasket who IS the corner i? Should know This Oh, Is,
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: marcus williams right and you see how close that Ball
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: Gets to, marcus william's hand just Over him with brady.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: Dropping it in if in corners a different one writes,
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: a different threshold but if his arm is a quarter of, an,
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: inch longer. Yeah nobody Knows unicorn show ponies wears the
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: beef is, some, insane sentence yeah instead of an Iconic part.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: Of patriots, culture so like it's not it's hard to point,
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: to it tangibly but it's it's you're gonna hate me.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: For how cheesy this Is the al pacino speech From.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: Any given sunday the inches we need are. Everywhere around.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: Us you are that's kind of what it is you wanted.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: Me to explain it is that can you do? BETTER
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: than that i mean that that's the easiest way.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 2: TO explain it i think the biggest thing, with it
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: though is that When You watch will, campbell on film
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: and we talked about this, before the combine there are
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: concerns about him being a shorter arm tackle that show up.
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: On the tape if it didn't show up, on THE
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 2: tape then i wouldn't be as Much, Of a okay
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: i'm out.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 3: On this.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: Now you know the biggest thing is is that he
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: has to be very aggressive in pass protection because he
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 2: can't just sit back and use his length to extend and.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 2: Buy himself time so he comes out and he sets
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: aggressively out. In pass protection so a lot of those,
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 2: twitched up, Rushers You, know kyle Kinnard You, know shamar
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: stewart you, know those guys all they were doing was
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 2: they were just swimming right over him and going to,
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 2: the inside right so he, would come out there would
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: be this big gap now off his inside hip and
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: these guys are just inside, countering. All, Day right yeah
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: and a lot of that is because of, his arm
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 2: length because he can't extend and he can't.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: Get out there so how is that going? To, be
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: fixed like how are we going?
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 2: To fix that is a question that teams need to
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: ask and if you then ask him to set, more, inside,
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: out now well now he's going to be playing with
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: a short, corner right now he's not going to be
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 2: able to protect the. Edge as well so his skill
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 2: set and his body. Type scream guard the question is
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 2: for a Team like the patriots who are so desperate, for,
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 2: tackle help like do you just see if he?
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 4: Can?
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: Do it right because he's done. It in college it's
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: it's if you believe he is, a, generational talent like
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: because that's what he'd have to be, to play tackle
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: to be a. Truly weird talent. You do it, But,
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: just remember evan when you add up, all those inches
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: that's the difference between.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 2: Winning and losing, oh my, goodness, All, right uh victor, Bring.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: Us home victor Victor is.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: In florida, movie hey guys? How? You?
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 7: Doing, Hey Good okay so i've just been running the
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 7: draft situation in my head and kind Of thinking If
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 7: carter and hunter are gone at for If You, are
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 7: elliott wolf what?
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 4: Do you do.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: This is the big question that that's the. Number one
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: question that's a good way to. End The.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 2: Show thanks victor this is the number one question that
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 2: we're gonna be answering for the next month.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: And a half go back to the beginning, of the
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: show because this was. My, opening take yeah if you
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: can get tackle address, and free agency who do you
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: think is the best football player? On the board, Is
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: it McMillan Is It? Still will campbell Is It? Still
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: mason Graham Is? It will Johnson Is? It ashton Genty Is?
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: It tyler Warren Is? It? Calvin banks like and there
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: is gonna be arguments for all. Of those players you
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: just do who helps your football team the most? From that?
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: GROUP fair enough i think that the number one obvious
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: answer is, dump the pick like somebody. Come, trade up
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: well but. Here's some problem if there's someone. Take the pick.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: Not that simple, take the pick, it'd be great. But
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: take it, THEY might.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: Not i understand but, that's number ONE Right and i
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 2: we've both said this take in DIFFERENT ways because i
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: think it annoys both of us that everybody just assumes
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 2: you can.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: Just.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 2: Trade down right you. Can't trade that it's. Not that
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 2: automatic it takes. Two to tango number one option is,
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: to trade down no. Doubt about it NUMBER two option
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 2: i would probably go best player available at, a premium
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: position whether, that's pass Rusher that's armand. Membu at Tackle
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 2: You think tyler warren can be a number one you
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: know option, in, An, offense right like those are, All
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 2: Pre positions ted, MACMILLAN to me i would probably steer.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 2: IN that direction, i think, THAT you know i know
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 2: that's a little bit of a COP out because i,
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: didn't Pick anybody but i'm just saying that whoever they
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: think is the best player at. An impact position.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: So your your answer is Basically anybody but Genty Correct
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: or will campbell if you think.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 2: He's, A, Card Okay Right so mason graham is like
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 2: a little bit like on the, Fringe, FOR me like i,
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 2: can you know pass rush interior pass rush is becoming
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 2: more and more, And more important so it's hard.
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: To say that it's a complete.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 2: Non impact position but it's tough last EMAIL here because
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 2: i just like that it's.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: Picking on. You Oh, boy barton poland who's.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 2: A fan, of the show has a list here because
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 2: he thinks THAT You're, Overrating dk metcalf so he has
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 2: a risk a LIST sorry of i think almost Twenty
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 2: Receivers that barton poland thinks IS Better.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 1: Than Dk metcalf so i'm gonna read him off and
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: you Just tell me, Yester or No Let's say jamar
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: chase is this like last year because he had a down,
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: year last year but. He wasn't assistant Just, Answer The
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: okay jamar, chase Is better. Justin Jefferson's, Better, tyreek kill
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: no not, at this point not at thirty. Something years
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: old you THINK you think dk Is Better. Than tyrey
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: kill let's assume it's a. Three year extension who would
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: you rather have for the. Next three Years that's how i'm.
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: Gonna Do this TYREEK Kill or DK. Metcalf, probably dk
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah ty tyreek kill at his peak, was much better
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 1: absolutely best. Step in league he's not getting better, At
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: this point he's only. Gonna Get Worse, Ceedee lamb DRAW
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 1: i'm taking i. LIKE Them, Both aj brown I'M. Taking. A,
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: j brown no they're like the same. Player, To me no,
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 1: brown is, Better All RIGHT, Nico, COLLINS dk yeah i.
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 1: Agree WITH that pooka DK A'man ra dk milik neighbors.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 4: That.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: MIGHT be neighbors i need to see what he builds on.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: The rookie year he has a Chance To Be. BRIAN
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 1: THOMAS Jr DK. T higgins, Dk I AGREED, garrett wilson.
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: Dk It's CLOSE drake, London Dk agreed frank lens just THE,
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: Worse For Dk metcalf Jackson SMITH and. Jigba K, Agreed Mike, Evans, Mike.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: EVAN oh mike I Was thinking mike williams. For a
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 1: second if we're doing the next, THREE, Years Thing dk mike.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: Evans UNBELIEVABLE player, but i think YOU know what. I
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: shouldn't say i think he's gonna Fall off because i've
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: said that. And He's not But I'll say, MIKE evans
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: there i have too Much Respect. For mike Evans I'll,
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 1: Say Mike, EVANS, Davante adams Dk tyler. Mcc terry, McLaurin.
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 1: Excuse me dk there's a lot of old receivers, On
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: This LIST. DeVante SMITH dk so i WOULD say that
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 1: dk to me is ten. TO fifteen ish i think
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 1: he's in like the eight to ten ten. To fifteen
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 1: ish really, Good, player though yeah and he's?
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 4: What?
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: Twenty seven, Yeah, elite receiver. Yeah elite receive do you
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 1: want To talk? About tuesday morning what are we doing?
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: About this guy? Kind of player if you want to
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: talk ABOUT and then i know we got. A wrap
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 1: yep if we want to we we threw out a.
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 1: Lot Of, names, Chris Godwin, yep, Deavante Adams, Yeah Tyler.
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 1: Lockett christian kirk all these. Guys are available there is
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: NO Doubt that dk metcalf is now the best receiver.
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 1: Of NOT close and i would even put t DID You?
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 1: SAY t? Higgins i? DID you did? I, DID not
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 1: oh i would still even if you Want to throw,
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 1: HIGGINS in There i. Think metcalf's better so he's the. Best.
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 2: Receiver Available yep the patriots are one of the teams that.
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 2: Desperately needs receivers they should.
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 1: Be Doing well so i'm glad you said that because
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: let me be clear, about SOMETHING here because i got
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 1: asked in this this applies, to, two, Players okay right
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: and then we gotta Go On the will campbell's. Arm
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: lane thing everybody's how you're So Obsessed with will campbell
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: and now? Your, guy's gone like how ups are you the?
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 1: Same with?
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 3: You?
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 1: Oh BOY bart things. Dk So good but i'm Not Obsessed.
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 1: With will campbell i'm obsessed with the idea Of Making
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 1: sure drake may's. Blindside is protected i'm not so MUCH
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 1: Obsessed with DK metcalf as i Am with the patriots
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 1: getting a true game. Changing wide receiver those just happened
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 1: to be the guys Or we thought campbell was. The
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 1: guy available it the top guys available to. Do the
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 1: job THAT is what i am. Hyper focused on it
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 1: is not necessarily No offense TO Will. Campbeller dk metcalf
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 1: but if name a receiver, right was available if we FOUND. OUT.
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 1: If a j brown requested, a trade today IT'S not
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: like i, would be NO. It's d k he's the
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 1: guy that would, Be all right we'll get one.
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 3: Of.
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 1: The two right if we found out some tackle, Was
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 1: available today It's not that i'm pounding The Table. For
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 1: ronnie stanley it's get somebody that you don't have To
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: Worry about. Drake may's blindside those are just the guys
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 1: casting those, roles this.
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 2: Offseason all right so we'll be back on catch Twenty,
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 2: two next, wednesday same. Time same place that is technically
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 2: the first day of. The league year but the cool
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 2: thing for our show is that all a free agency
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 2: will basically be over because of, The tampering period so.
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 1: It'd, Be cool yeah. I'm signing live that might.
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 2: Be next week we'll be able to break down all
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 2: of what hopefully will be a very active first couple
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 2: of days of free Agency for The patriots On. Monday
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 2: and tuesday, so until then Signing Off For Alex. Barth
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 2: evan lazarre see you. Guys next week but.
• 2:02:59
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