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034 - Sick & Twisted Records w/ Big C & Pachuca · Here's to You

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  So we have here. Oh before that so as you guys
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  have noticed, we've been getting a little bit more into music.
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  The last couple episodes have been around that.
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  Don't forget to go back to our last episode.
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  Music, we have our host. He i'mme not hos, our guests.
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  Well, I'm going to reduce you guys.
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  We have here. Big C and Pachuca.
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  Hello guys. It was cracking.
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  I can make great. Thanks for having us.
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  Thank you for coming really. Thank you.
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  We're excited. We've been trying to get you
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  guys in. So sorry about that.
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  The first one had to get rescheduled and we're just glad
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  that we're finally sitting down. We're finally able to hear your
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  guys a story. Here, your guys's passion around
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  like what you guys do and also pour a drink with you guys.
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  Yeah I got something started for you guys but you know we'll
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  worry about that then in the middle in the break.
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  Yeah but yeah so welcome please tell us about yourself man.
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  Thank you. So I'll start, I'll start it off
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  man. Okay everybody, my name is Big C
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  man. CEO the head man of Secrets,
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  wizard records man originated out of Salina, Kansas 15 years
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  ago. You know it's 15 years ago.
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  That's wild that crazy. That's crazy and you've been
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  doing that just still going. Still going man been never once
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  questioned. Never stopping.
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  Mmm. Yeah that's good right there
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  passion. That's passion right there.
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  Oh yeah. Yeah, the the rock is sick and
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  twisted right there. See and then I'm Pachuca course.
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  I'm the vice president is to go to the records.
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  The first lady, you know, also known as hypnotic says, the pit
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  bull of the hip hop industry here right in Kansas.
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  She gets after it, man. Yes.
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  Yeah. I any time that we've ever,
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  Thrown event, you know, and sponsored and you know, shared
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  committees and stuff like that. Like the artist getting like if
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  they have any issues whatsoever, doesn't matter if it's tough.
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  The, you know, the flights or if it's a hotel trying to rip them
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  off or whatever. Best believe I get, I get my
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  people their money. Yeah.
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  Look at you. Every man, when I say the first
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  lady, man, I mean, I mean that, like, in Salina there was
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  another female rappers doing it back in two thousand, six,
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  seven, eight. Yeah, she was only like 15 years
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  old with, oh, shit with a bunch of my older homies.
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  Yeah. Yeah, you're a 15 when you
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  started just wrap it. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Performed live for the first
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  time. I 16 I professionally recorded
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  for the first time at like 10 years old at Studio 11 17.
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  Oh shit. Just with the Salina.
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  Ian's choir. Wow.
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  We just been doing it since we were kids.
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  You know composing music at 8th grade composing, my own sheet
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  music. That's awesome.
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  Play the piano, you fail. Legit.
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  Look at look where the piano the trumpet.
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  The French horn. Yes.
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  She's definitely the rock to sick and twisted jams.
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  The business side of things, she had to learn it.
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  We kind of threw it on her at a young age, you know.
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  So she's done very well for yourself, man.
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  I'm very proud of my sister now. I think it's yours your
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  siblings, right? Yeah.
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  But I just want everybody know that y'all sibling.
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  Anything. That is crazy because, you know,
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  a lot of siblings they don't do things together.
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  Sometimes, you know, they'll just be like, you know, you do
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  your own thing every sip sibling have their own different.
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  What I say. Like different Groups, no, not
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  Frank, maybe friend groups but like, you know, they have their
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  own personality different personality, you know, but you
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  guys have something in common and that's that's really good
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  because you guys keep it together in the family.
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  You're like, you know, I got, I know, I have your back, you have
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  my back because we're blood, you know, offer it.
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  Yeah, that's good. I like that.
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  It's all about family, man, family.
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  First-ever second or third. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
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  That's true. So you guys had mentioned that
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  From Lena and so aside from is it only you two we want to hear
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  it. Can you like set that set the
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  ground for us? Tell us like a little bit about
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  how you guys grew up what music, you guys grew up listening to
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  and what ends up getting you into music and then we'll go
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  from there. What about yoga?
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  Well, our dad was a musician. So, my dad, you know, grew up
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  doing a drum and bugle, Corps. I don't know if you guys have
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  ever heard of the, the sky riders, but my dad.
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  It was a member of the sky riders drum and bugle Corps from
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  Hutchinson Kansas. Okay?
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  And they do reunions every year now, because obviously they're
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  disbanded. Yeah, they were one of the
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  biggest powerhouses in the nation when it came to drum and
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  bugle, Corps marching course style marching.
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  So, my, my dad also, just like he's singing acapella all the
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  time, the songs off the radio. Like, he didn't have the
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  Walkman, he didn't walk around with a CD player.
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  I mean, this man, Over here. Make drum beats on his on his
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  lap while he was waiting for my brother.
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  Do warm-ups all the soccer game music definitely?
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  Excuse me, music definitely was a was a big, was big in my
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  household. I mean, from from Little Joe,
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  you know, Tex-Mex type stuff. Yeah.
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  To bond us, you know to, you know, Tigres del Norte.
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  I mean, all that type of stuff man to Motown to, you know, I
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  love that. I love that.
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  Yeah. It was a broad variety of music
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  that yeah. Music, you know, my mom's a
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  country girl two-man race in Kansas.
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  And yeah, but you know, like if you turn on music of some
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  country music, you see big see right there.
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  You wouldn't even think that. Yeah, he would know some people
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  McIntyre something, some bring you back back.
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  That's good. That's good.
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  Even like even like your parents were in love with me as I can
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  you get there like you know we want to show you what what music
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  can do for you guys to as well. And that's a good thing I like
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  that. Yeah.
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  Yeah. They were very encouraging.
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  I mean like, you know, when I started to inquire just in grade
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  school, we certainly going to Sacred Heart, Cathedral grade
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  school is where we went to school in like we had to do
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  music contest and they made you participate, even if you didn't
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  like music but But even then, even then like that's just where
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  we found out that we were extremely talented because we
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  didn't I mean we didn't you don't you don't hear yourself
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  the same way other people hear you right?
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  You know, and I got nothing but the top ratings, you know, as a
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  young child and then at contests and then gain my confidence to
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  take solos and things like that and and kept getting nothing,
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  but the top ratings and then, of course, big see, you know, he's
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  over here, starring as A great leading roles and stuff and
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  amateur Productions. Great.
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  So you guys were nerdy, I'm a, I'm a man.
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  I'm a man of many talents. That's right.
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  So people man. Yeah, you know, again music was
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  a big, fluence. When we were young, man and I
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  know for me, it saved my life in many ways.
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  Yeah, straight up. You know, because, you know,
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  when I was younger, man, I struggle with like my identity.
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  Mmm, yummy. Because we grew up, we were in
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  Virginia, for a little bit and then We moved to Kansas to Hutch
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  and then we moved to Salina and like, didn't know anybody?
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  Yeah, uprooted from Hutch. It's Celina and was just in a
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  whole different place. You know?
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  Didn't know. It's a music really dig, you
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  know, I mean, like, get you out of like a dark place at a young
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  age. Yeah.
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  Same mental health issues like all these things, you know,
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  music was just like that outlet. Yeah, you know, it was crazy man
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  because like as misaligned of like the order we got the more
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  we got active in the streets. No more, you know as I'm
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  struggling with my identity. At a young age, you know what I
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  mean? Like, sorry to get in the game.
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  Banging. You know, I mean really being
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  more cultured. You know I mean like in a lot of
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  different ways. So like again music was was was
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  part of that. Yeah.
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  Music. Helped you?
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  Yeah, Mike. It was like an expression for
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  you to figure out who you were wanting to be and so maybe you
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  got to put on a certain Persona, one moment and then you got to
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  experience that and go. Maybe I want to be this Persona
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  today, you know. And it's all Alchemy to.
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  Yeah, that's the crazy thing that like, the older I got, the
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  more, I realize the gift I had, you know what I mean?
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  Like, I knew what I didn't really know what it was doing
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  for me at the time necessarily and shaping me to be where I'm
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  at now, but it's crazy. But back at it like dang.
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  Yeah. If you have a gift, use it.
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  Yeah. He's it's because you never
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  know, you might use like if men we had some of the best teachers
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  to out there man, like our band teacher and grade school was I
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  mean he was He was he was hip, he was with it and then and then
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  when we got into post going switch, that was scary because
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  like, it's a whole nother different world from private
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  school to post-school. Yeah and then in the name of it,
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  then our music, our band teacher in high school.
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  Mr. Rohr was like another dad to me, I mean if I got arrested and
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  I was in handcuffs, I was walking down the hallway to tell
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  him I'm sorry, I can't do my Solo in this concert tonight.
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  I have to give it to the second chair French Horn players and
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  she's not lying me because you know like growing up in high
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  school, getting the game being the stuff like that, like a
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  music teacher would always be in my ear like my freshman and
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  sophomore year being like hey what are you doing?
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  Homie? Like yeah, you're fucking up.
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  Yeah, you know, I get him band. I know, you know, you can do it
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  and I know you got talent. Yeah, the trouble is so like my
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  junior senior year, I started doing that more, you know.
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  I mean I High school athletes who you know mean I was a stud
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  you know yeah Allstate all regions goalkeeper oh shit I
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  can't even go half the field. So I'm originally from Dodge
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  City Kansas, you know we had those leagues lie guys and
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  everything. Nothing like that.
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  So I'll be I'll be like, the only Asian in the Mexican team
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  like something. And like I remember I was in my
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  coach, only spoke Spanish and I was like, okay, well, I'll be
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  like, I'll just play how I always play, Then he be like
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  just do whatever you doing and I'm okay.
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  Being in likes playing in Spain or playing?
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  Yeah, that's true yeah, I'll yeah yeah Big C.
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  Play it on the league. Has he played in the in the like
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  and or here in Wichita today and the indoor soccer complex here?
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  Yeah, it was played in London all year round.
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  It's you go. It just United soccer camp.
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  Look at you. I'm telling you I'm being of.
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  Do you miss it? Sometimes I do.
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  I'm actually I'm training from my last hurrah.
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  Okay right now man. I'm trying to make a little cut.
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  Um back man, I'm trying to play, you know, like some some indoor
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  something here in Wichita, probably get on the team or
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  something like the there's like a sports when passports Zone
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  over there. Yeah, yeah.
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  Are you good, man? This right here, man.
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  Again, cheers. And you guys.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're big soccer fans to as
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  well. I'm sorry about my son.
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  Let me just tell you guys. Okay, so my brother, he's 16
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  years old, have been playing. He was five years old, and
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  badass, soccer player he's in What's called the hearing which
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  child is called sporting Wichita here.
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  You know, how they're Sporting KC + facilitated with Sporting
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  KC and the sporting Wichita, so he is The traveling team so we
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  like go around all I can fucking see Lois.
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  Sometimes we go to Nebraska like all those tournaments.
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  Well, those traveling tournament was he?
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  Yeah, there's soda Texas. Yeah, they're crazy.
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  Yeah. And it's crazy because like I
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  keep this kid so busy, he plays High School soccer and he was a
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  freshman. I moved him here when he was a
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  freshman here and he got Varsity right away.
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  There you go. And he's been Varsity ever since
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  and for him after high school's over Go straight to Club.
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  Feels like all year round. That's awesome.
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  That's how I was. Yeah.
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  And then then homeboy want to try tennis and I was like, oh my
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  God. Yeah I could get myself to do
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  it. Yeah.
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  But anyways, any about that. But yeah, I love it.
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  So you were all American, right? Yeah man, I play.
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  I was like you said it was starter freshman.
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  Yeah, I'll team first team All-State.
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  That's crazy. Wait three years of college
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  soccer I played at Allen County Community College for two years
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  and then I transferred to Kansas Wesleyan University.
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  Yeah, and Salina and then I start acting a fool.
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  You don't say, it's got back home from college and just kick
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  it with the homies again. But then I again found the past
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  for the music again, man. That's great.
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  As long as long as you keep passionate about what you do,
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  what you love to do matter what matter, what was there.
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  So kind of tell us a little bit about that the music part like
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  you, you got, you expect, you also did really, really well in
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  soccer. I mean, you went and played over
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  in London. That's, that's really big.
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  Really, I just like glossed over that you're like, oh yeah, I
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  went over there anyways. Next big deal.
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  No, big deal with Manchester United.
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  So we know that you guys are rappers and, you know, we had
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  smokes last time but then we were thinking we're like, Like
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  you know what? We never like made him or others
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  really Define. What you got to wrap it.
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  Yeah so we wanted to hear from you guys like cuz you guys maybe
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  you guys are so don't love it. You know that wraps.
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  Yeah. Okay.
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  Okay. That for be sums it up because a
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  lot of people want to make it difficult.
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  Like what is Chicano rap? What is this genre culture or to
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  hip-hop? You know, it's the same the
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  talent is just as good as if you were at Can American or black,
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  or Asian Chino or something like that spitting, some bars, man,
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  we're just, she got was a trap, you know what I mean?
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  But, you know, kids, like a lot of people would say.
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  Chicano rap is gangster rap, it's you know, it's cholo Rapids
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  that southsider rapid that, you know.
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  I mean that's that's not what it is at all, man.
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  It's it's just you know, those are just Southsiders.
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  I rap. Yeah.
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  You know, a trap. That's what about you about
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  yoga. You know, I would, I would say I
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  probably back at the beginning, right?
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  It with with like, Kid Frost and are shaded, you know, if you if
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  you really listen to like their lyrical Styles, they were just
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  doing the same type of West Coast Steelo as like Tupac or
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  anybody else. And I believe I should have
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  brought has shown up to positive.
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  They just had a lot of a lot of shit to say, you know?
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  I mean I think you kind of wrap is again some difference just
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  Chicanos. I have a voice and were, you
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  know, a lot of people again want to say it's gang.
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  Like gangster rap. No, it's not it.
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  There's so much more. Yeah, you know, I mean, it's
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  showing that our people have a voice that we can use it, we're
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  capable of using it. Yeah, you know, Spanish in
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  English? Yeah, I like that.
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  And I know when we first came out with when we first Arted,
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  you know, we were actively banging.
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  So, I mean, a lot of our music had to deal with that kind of
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  stuff dark or like we had, you know, just some some local
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  rappers that were beefing with us or whatever to so, you know,
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  we kind of just we use the music as the outlet.
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  You know what I mean to talk about what we were going through
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  but they also the Injustice is that, we were dealing with, as
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  well. Yeah, because there was, there
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  was, there was gang beef. But there was also racial
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  tension going and there were a lot of it was being was being
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  created by like the newspaper and the media and stuff and
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  turning it into something that it wasn't, you know what I mean?
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  So then we all had to start going dead like City Council
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  meetings and stuff and piping up and actually talking.
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  And I believe, I mean, I want one of those City Council
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  meetings was on YouTube. Yeah, we were listening to one
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  of the songs that it seemed like you guys were doing, like a road
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  test. Oh yeah.
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  from the other side and we just and we and we made a
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  long-lasting truce there but it and They just kind of realized,
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  you know what, we're all dealing with the same BS.
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  Yeah. On on both sides and our kids
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  are all being treated like like their education, don't matter.
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  Yeah. You know what I mean?
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  And and so we all banded together.
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  So we made the real ones. Roll call King Main you know he
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  grew up, he grew up with us too and so in that in and everyone's
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  role called it the the park that we shoot in.
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  Yeah. That was the home of one of the
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  biggest It's brawls that the Salina Kansas has ever seen.
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  There was over, at least 100 people getting down in that park
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  at one time. Oh shit.
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  And it really was a racial bro member back in the day when even
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  in the city they have that too as well.
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  Because also you have a brawls. Has a lot of balls as well.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  There was a time when it was like, it was really bad.
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  Yeah. It was it was bad, man.
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  You know, I mean in like again to bring it back to the music,
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  you know? Music helped like bring people
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  together. Yeah.
• 22:03
  When we were out there game being and you know, I mean
• 22:05
  that's one common thing that like, you know, because it's
• 22:08
  line it was geez. And then there was three I say,
• 22:10
  you know, I mean, I'm not gonna get into much of it but, you
• 22:15
  know, like there was a lot of shit that was going on and the
• 22:18
  music just brought us all together, man, that's good, you
• 22:21
  know, to me, like, you got rival, people create music and
• 22:24
  yeah, yeah. I mean, I like, you know,
• 22:26
  breaking Doing features together.
• 22:28
  Yeah. And bring in Britain breaking
• 22:30
  those those those chains of ignorance that that that the
• 22:36
  that the prior I guess older generation had started feeding
• 22:40
  us and spewing us lies and I'm saying and then like right there
• 22:44
  you know like in that scene we're in the north side, we're
• 22:48
  in the north side of Salina which was the complete opposite
• 22:52
  side of which we represented back in the day.
• 22:55
  Yeah. And I was a soup kitchen.
• 22:57
  Ian actually, you know where we shot at and then of course like
• 23:02
  you know the stifel theater is just you know was like the place
• 23:06
  we always wanted to perform at, you know, growing up and it was
• 23:09
  stable, but it was actually like the first place I ever did a
• 23:14
  front of 300 people. Perform a solo at the age of
• 23:18
  like 9 years old, then to the Broadway musical The Wiz oh
• 23:22
  shit. And then you know it just there
• 23:26
  and Hutch that's the sea. Red's Memorial there that they
• 23:28
  had just put up during 2020, you know, at that time I just right
• 23:35
  before we shot this music video, I believe I had spoke at the
• 23:38
  BlackMart lives matter protest and and and spoke about us
• 23:45
  coming together and I was even went live.
• 23:48
  In, was talking to the homies in Cali who are all protesting at
• 23:51
  the time in the streets, for the Kids On the Border in the in the
• 23:56
  kids in Has and stuff. And so I was just, you know,
• 24:00
  opening up the eyes to the fact that Kansas has always been a
• 24:04
  huge supporter of you know equality.
• 24:08
  Yeah. Believe it or not, it goes back
• 24:10
  down to Brown versus Board anyway, brought that up.
• 24:13
  Oh yeah at that protest talking about that.
• 24:16
  And also bringing up the fact that Hutchison Kansas was the
• 24:20
  home of the first Hispanic female mayor in the midwest,
• 24:25
  which is Francis J Garcia our grandmother.
• 24:27
  Uh-huh. Wait.
• 24:29
  Oh really? Yeah shit, yeah.
• 24:31
  She's she was pret. Yeah, she was present at the
• 24:33
  protest and talk to the newspaper people and explain to
• 24:38
  him who I was and everything. When I was there speaking and
• 24:40
  all that, and shortly after that, you know, that we had to,
• 24:47
  we had a bunch of Investments that went, you know, stagnant
• 24:51
  because of covid shutdowns. Yeah, we had shows music
• 24:55
  conferences and stuff that we had invested in performers that
• 24:58
  we had paid and stuff to perform but had no place for them to
• 25:02
  perform at. So we band together with the
• 25:06
  National Night Out committee who was just as rambunctious as us
• 25:10
  both like not wanting to stay inside.
• 25:15
  They decided that they were going to partner with us and we
• 25:19
  were going to use a performance that we had paid key main to do.
• 25:24
  Plus we had to I had already had this feature with him and we're
• 25:27
  about To release this song so we decided.
• 25:29
  Okay, we're going to do this music video.
• 25:31
  All right, we're going to, we're going to get this together.
• 25:33
  We're going to release this song on all platforms at a live
• 25:37
  event. So we partnered indeed Hispanic
• 25:40
  heritage which would you which I don't know if you guys have seen
• 25:43
  but a sick and twisted has been hosting Hispanic heritage events
• 25:46
  across the state of Kansas starting.
• 25:48
  The first one we did was in Kansas City back in 2000 and was
• 25:53
  a 2018, bro, believe so. Yeah. 2018.
• 25:57
  And when we brought criminal and mr.
• 25:59
  Shadow down to perform together for the first time in the
• 26:01
  history of the Chicano rap movement was in Kansas City.
• 26:07
  And I was a, that was us. Who threw that event.
• 26:10
  Yeah. And that's fucking cool.
• 26:11
  Yeah, going back to that, right? I mean, like, you were
• 26:16
  mentioning, you're like I'm just a Chicano that wraps.
• 26:18
  I'm just such a Cano, that has a voice and I'm just somebody who
• 26:22
  is using that voice. I mean, like this story right
• 26:25
  here is an example of all of that, right?
• 26:27
  You're like, I'm taking my voice.
• 26:29
  I'm owning my voice, and I'm using my voice to continue to be
• 26:34
  loud for the people that maybe don't have a lot of your voice.
• 26:37
  Yeah. Or, who can lease it.
• 26:38
  Can't stand up to say something, exactly.
• 26:40
  Like I'll help you to get, get to that point to.
• 26:43
  Exactly, which is why? Well, actor we started doing the
• 26:47
  Hispanic heritage events and becoming more involved in the
• 26:51
  Hutchison Community because at first, they didn't want to
• 26:54
  nobody wanted to even our family.
• 26:57
  A friends, close family, friends, who own businesses.
• 27:00
  Didn't want to sponsor our events and things like that
• 27:03
  because they were so scared of violence.
• 27:05
  It's hard. It's been hard.
• 27:07
  Was it like the stigma and just and just how how I like how I
• 27:14
  have it. Look you know we have any room
• 27:18
  that we walk into. Yeah.
• 27:19
  Yeah. You know whether it's were you
• 27:20
  look better than you? We dress better.
• 27:22
  I don't know what it is. Yeah I really don't know.
• 27:24
  It doesn't matter. It will how I look or anything.
• 27:26
  I mean. I mean, I know you guys could
• 27:29
  probably kick my ass but also no, it was just it's just that
• 27:36
  that that the label and the Chicano rapper or whatever.
• 27:41
  You know. I mean like that was hard.
• 27:43
  Yeah you know we I embrace I embrace it.
• 27:46
  You know me because again like like Huachuca was saying man
• 27:48
  we've been doing doing this for awhile, 15 years and we come rub
• 27:55
  shoulders with Legends And in Chicano rap.
• 27:58
  Yeah, you know, because back in the early days of rap, you know,
• 28:02
  I mean like, again, everybody just wrapped.
• 28:05
  Yeah. You know, and then like, in like
• 28:06
  the late, I'll see you later 90s early 2000s.
• 28:10
  You know, would like thump records and stuff like that, you
• 28:13
  know, little Rob, Woodall them, a low profile records, like it
• 28:16
  started to get the total rata need, someone they labeled it
• 28:21
  Chicano rap and you have mr. Caponi, then you had the
• 28:23
  criminals, the, you know, mean everybody else that followed
• 28:26
  after that. Yeah, you know, keenly G
• 28:28
  everybody else. But but yeah, man, it's just,
• 28:31
  it's just been such a trip coming up out of Kansas and you
• 28:35
  know, we they're like, oh, you're from Kansas was like,
• 28:37
  what what are you gonna do for us?
• 28:40
  Exactly there. They still think that there's
• 28:41
  Cowboys and Indians out here out here.
• 28:49
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's been hard out here in
• 28:52
  Kansas because of the labeling and to get back in.
• 28:57
  Like donations and people that help.
• 29:00
  Yeah, with their own events. I mean, if we were to throw a
• 29:02
  little robber Wiz Khalifa, or the that's coming out here, like
• 29:05
  people, go to that. Oh, yeah, right.
• 29:07
  But like, and Chicano rap. Arsenic dogs.
• 29:10
  Are the criminals? The Capone?
• 29:12
  Yeah, he's Rich. He's the drummer boy's, you
• 29:15
  know. Ecwid, you know, I mean all
• 29:17
  these, you know, keep those Soul like, these are these are
• 29:20
  legends to us and their own, right?
• 29:22
  Yeah, you know, I mean so like it's just, it's crazy because
• 29:25
  I'll mention that to people out here, we don't Have in
• 29:28
  California, the West Coast. Like the, the mecca of Chicano
• 29:32
  rap, Oregon was a trap. All the McDonald's, all the
• 29:35
  Chicanos. As I, you know, it's established
• 29:38
  out there. Yeah.
• 29:39
  So like but really we're spread every where we are and see that.
• 29:43
  And that's what they say if that video up there.
• 29:48
  Yeah. So gangster, right.
• 29:49
  Thanks for the homeboy hypnotics from Cali.
• 29:51
  Yeah, he's on the come up big time right now.
• 29:53
  Yeah, but he says, on that song, Oh yeah.
• 29:57
  He's like, man. There's, there's a Raza
• 29:59
  everywhere. And I'm like, yeah, well, we're
• 30:08
  bringing the criminals. There's actual people like,
• 30:10
  doing what he's doing exactly. And when they do, you know who
• 30:14
  they're doing it, they're sick and twisted.
• 30:16
  Yeah, we hear Kansas, he think either sick and twisted, or you
• 30:20
  think Southwestern attainment and I'll give them their flowers
• 30:24
  because they're ended up right now.
• 30:25
  They deserve it and it worked really hard.
• 30:27
  And we've all bump shoulders. Again, if you really out here
• 30:29
  doing it and you know who's doing it, you bump shoulders
• 30:32
  with them. Yeah, yeah.
• 30:33
  That's out to Southwest entertainment.
• 30:34
  Yeah. And all the Coalition DJ's out
• 30:36
  there. Coalition DJ's.
• 30:38
  So I was a DJ 3 and, and I was much bigger.
• 30:43
  I had to say, man, I've had quite the journey man.
• 30:46
  I've had. I've seen your push-up videos, I
• 30:51
  appreciate that. I literally texted my friend the
• 31:03
  other day I was like, dude, it's funny because Alpena was like I
• 31:15
  can't believe you guys are going to shoot that video like at noon
• 31:18
  In the Heat of the day, like you guys are crazy and we didn't
• 31:21
  realize how you about me that long hike, that there was a hike
• 31:26
  involved. Like that.
• 31:28
  I hope you like you recording me down here first and then and
• 31:31
  then uphill was the worst man, honestly, but you can go on
• 31:35
  there man. He's the best rate of all of us
• 31:37
  are he was waking up at 5:00 in the morning.
• 31:39
  Yo, working out, whatever. Yeah.
• 31:46
  For our listeners were watching the music video.
• 31:49
  So gangster right now. Big C by 2.
• 31:51
  Okay, I'm that guy from itm dope star.
• 31:58
  Yeah, moochie right there. Yeah, chingon psyche.
• 32:01
  It like a, you know, he's a brother does, you know, I really
• 32:04
  he's a lot, he's family for real, you know, and opine has
• 32:09
  would come. I'm Oscar, payn has become a
• 32:11
  member of our family. Hypnotic has become a member of
• 32:14
  our family. You know, hypnotic actually hit
• 32:17
  us up for the first time for the to perform as one of the openers
• 32:20
  and that guy right there with the gun.
• 32:22
  His name's Kelly Rosco. That's a legend right there to
• 32:24
  help me. Kelly Rosco, right there.
• 32:26
  He shoots out to Yeah, you should movies in Hollywood right
• 32:28
  now. Have you guys heard of concrete?
• 32:31
  His name is, he's a comedian. He's concrete.
• 32:35
  He's a Mexican, but he does the reels and stuff like that.
• 32:39
  Well, Callie Rosco. He coached shoots with him.
• 32:43
  Oh shit. So like when he's doing all
• 32:45
  these big things and encounter Rosco was on the come up at the
• 32:48
  time, he was just getting his camera grind.
• 32:50
  So he was just there as an extra to help shoot, we had like three
• 32:53
  or four cameras going at that tag of the wall and everything's
• 32:56
  a video. Now, I meet a lot of the so bad.
• 32:59
  Thanks Harvey. And these guys had a 30 pack of
• 33:02
  modelo's, and they, with a walk, three miles with him.
• 33:06
  Oh my God. You up with it.
• 33:08
  Sure up to rain and then down to rain.
• 33:12
  And like 100-something degree heat.
• 33:14
  Fuck that how they go on drink hot as beer.
• 33:17
  They did not care when we got to the child at the time because I
• 33:24
  had, I was having some health scares me.
• 33:27
  Mass out with that. I keep it 100 but yeah I had
• 33:29
  some if you can see I had some things going on with myself at
• 33:31
  the time. You know we got the homie gizmo
• 33:33
  from Gizmo Incorporated from Salina Kansas to get small.
• 33:37
  He was in that in the music video to just their support and
• 33:40
  then so so speaking of right? Like you guys dropped hella
• 33:43
  names just now that I'm like, over here my head like okay I'm
• 33:46
  so F. She gone I wanted to ask, right?
• 33:51
  Because we fast-forwarded quite a bit in that video.
• 33:54
  Is that what year was that video Sookie?
• 33:57
  EXO was chosen, the shutdown's. Okay, I want to say.
• 34:00
  That was probably 20, 19. Okay, that's why 20 to 30 but it
• 34:05
  literally San Diego was shut down.
• 34:07
  Well, while we were there and he's in Vegas, flying out for
• 34:10
  the video. Yeah, and in Las Vegas, there
• 34:13
  was nobody there. I bet you that flight was cheap.
• 34:15
  It was weird. I think it.
• 34:16
  Yes, we've been, I took advantage of every cheap
• 34:20
  opportunity during covid. People are like, you guys are
• 34:23
  crazy. When you guys get back, you're
• 34:25
  gonna have to quarantine or whatever because unicorns, Now,
• 34:27
  how about I don't tell anybody when to Zone where I want.
• 34:29
  Ya, how about that, right? Like, I what?
• 34:42
  So, 15 years ago, you guys started the music group or your
• 34:46
  label. Yeah.
• 34:47
  What point do you guys start to expand and getting all of these
• 34:50
  artists right and it because like we just fast forwarded hell
• 34:53
  years? Yeah, years.
• 34:55
  How did you find all these people?
• 34:57
  Oh man, so I want to say back in 2000, in 2010, actually, shouts
• 35:04
  out to the homie Jaguar, catching dead.
• 35:07
  We had again. I was going to college dropped
• 35:09
  out to chase the music, honestly, and we were doing,
• 35:14
  Rock the crowd shows and Salina at one time, sign of was like a
• 35:18
  hub for Hip Hop shows. It really was.
• 35:21
  And so they had an event called Rock the crowd, and we did like
• 35:24
  two of them and we ended up like To the finals and they were
• 35:28
  using like the 8-mile voice. M cloud is and like we were, you
• 35:33
  know, that's how we started making our name.
• 35:34
  Yeah. And then after that, why do we
• 35:36
  really love doing this? We have that Adrenaline Rush of
• 35:39
  being on the stage. And so, we went back to the
• 35:41
  drawing board after after those shows and were like, man like
• 35:44
  that adrenaline that, you know, that it's there.
• 35:46
  So it did something to me. Like we gotta, you know, and
• 35:49
  then we see people, you know, obviously getting paid at the
• 35:52
  time really getting getting door money and stuff like that.
• 35:54
  So, we're plotting scheming, you know?
• 35:56
  So So people were seeing our shows and how we were doing and
• 36:00
  this opportunity came called the Tornado Alley tour and I'll
• 36:04
  never forget that had zigzag of the MB Riders on it.
• 36:07
  The Emmy writers were split up, right MC, Magic was doing his
• 36:11
  own thing, you've been doing his own thing, he actually had all
• 36:13
  the rights to the music Roman zigzag at the time, they didn't
• 36:16
  have no but I have no rights. And MC Magic was was making
• 36:20
  money off their the tracks that they all rightfully together.
• 36:23
  But that's all solved now. But so yeah, we We got that
• 36:28
  opportunity and that's when we met stun, the future or stun out
• 36:32
  here is some people may know from Southwest entertainment, we
• 36:36
  met him on that tour. And then then after that, like
• 36:40
  we just kept doing things man. And in 2012, we did a show with
• 36:45
  jingle bling in Salina is brought to you by being out
• 36:48
  there with Chingo Bling. Yeah, with this guy.
• 36:51
  Yo and everything. This is back when she claims
• 36:53
  Chingo Bling still. Yeah.
• 36:55
  And We threw that in our hometown in like the whole sick,
• 36:59
  the whole town whole city went. Yeah.
• 37:01
  Now that summer and sick and twisted was blasted up on it,
• 37:05
  you know. I mean like they knew who was
• 37:06
  doing what and so that shows ended up being good.
• 37:10
  Went to some after-parties networking like we're doing here
• 37:13
  with you. Wonderful people here, get to
• 37:15
  know each other went to an after party after that show ended up
• 37:18
  getting a connect to the home, particle Pony.
• 37:23
  And then so I just hit him up and then we started going on
• 37:25
  high power to her Just by connect again, open line of
• 37:29
  communication. Once you meet these people, like
• 37:31
  they're just people. Yeah, you know, and there are
• 37:34
  you have human cells. Exactly.
• 37:36
  We had, we had so much to bring, we're so hungry, the time, you
• 37:39
  know, I mean, and, and what we're talking to component, of
• 37:42
  course, Money Talks. You know, we're out here
• 37:43
  hustling getting to the bag by any means at that at that point
• 37:47
  in time. Yeah, I mean, by any means we
• 37:49
  had to get good money. Yeah.
• 37:51
  And I'll let the mines take you were wherever man but we were in
• 37:54
  the streets smokes everybody who's out here getting it.
• 37:57
  Those tourists are going really well in 2012, 13 and then
• 38:04
  shortly after that, we had to make some life changes.
• 38:07
  You know? I mean the everyone's growing up
• 38:09
  in the group smokes growing up, you know, being he's got his
• 38:11
  family as he does about kids. You know, I'm out here like,
• 38:15
  what am I going to do? You know, I mean, like, looking
• 38:17
  for the next move, you know, music's going to give, but how
• 38:19
  can we take the next level? And so, I moved to Hutch.
• 38:23
  And then once you got to Hutch, man, then we started doing like
• 38:26
  fundraisers. And get more active into the
• 38:28
  communities. And then we ended up, you know,
• 38:32
  meat and criminal. We're doing more business with
• 38:34
  the home, use the criminal, if you don't know him, check him
• 38:36
  out on YouTube crime, family entertainment.
• 38:39
  Now, look for me. If I power built a good solid
• 38:42
  relationship with him and he's the highest paycheck on oh
• 38:44
  rapper, ever, you know, Mexican little G.
• 38:48
  Yeah. You know, and we sat in living
• 38:50
  rooms and said, you know, in the same cars with these guys, you
• 38:54
  know, means telling us about your guys's fan And girl
• 38:57
  moments. Yeah, yeah.
• 39:50
  You have Dusty housing before he blew up, we did a show around
• 39:55
  that same time 2011-12. We did a show at McGraw's and
• 39:59
  Hutchinson and he was starting to make some noise out here.
• 40:02
  I think at the time he was with ruthless records used to be easy
• 40:05
  easily able and bump shoulders with Hopson little little to no
• 40:10
  like four years later. Homie would be multi millionaire
• 40:13
  lives in Europe now. Yeah, but yeah, bump shoulders
• 40:16
  with him in Hutchinson Kansas small Hudson, Kansas what?
• 40:19
  Yeah, crazy. Yeah.
• 40:21
  It's our Journeys been. It's been wild off camera off my
• 40:24
  content. We could get in a lot more.
• 40:26
  Oh yeah. There's lots of.
• 40:27
  There's lots of. There's lots of cool stories.
• 40:29
  I tell you. And like I think one of my
• 40:31
  favorites is when we were a shooting and everything shut
• 40:35
  down. Yeah so hypnotic when he first
• 40:38
  came out to Kansas City when he was first really started to make
• 40:42
  a name for himself and traveling instead of just staying in Cali,
• 40:46
  his first out-of-state show was with us in Kansas City and Does
• 40:51
  carne asada and I love that song even look that up but he can't,
• 40:55
  he came out. Yeah he came out with carne
• 40:57
  asada. Yeah, background 2017-2018 on
• 41:01
  one of his first as CDs. It was really circulating out
• 41:04
  there and it cracked me up because what I didn't know was
• 41:08
  that him and Shadow had a future together.
• 41:11
  I ain't no, the shadow for those who yes, for mr.
• 41:13
  Shadow has a future together. And I was sitting with with her
• 41:18
  Shadow and his wife watching hypnotic performing And he's
• 41:21
  over here, talking about critiquing and talking about
• 41:23
  what he likes about hypnotics performance and everything and
• 41:26
  about how it's so light-hearted. But it's funny but yet, it's but
• 41:30
  it, but yet it's meaningful and serious at the same time.
• 41:33
  So, you know, he's a, he's another artist so we brought out
• 41:37
  from Cali. Oh yeah, this is still one of my
• 41:39
  favorite songs of all time and it's not even like you know his
• 41:42
  most popular. I don't care.
• 41:44
  Like it's my favorite. That's my favorite song.
• 41:46
  Yeah, for real. And when we arrived in there,
• 41:48
  right? He's like my family is.
• 41:50
  I have a carne asada for you guys.
• 41:52
  Uh-huh. I'm like sweet.
• 41:53
  That's awesome. So we don't have to worry about
• 41:54
  feeding ourselves. Right right, right.
• 41:56
  Yes, I'll make reservations anywhere.
• 41:57
  Awesome cool. So you know we he invited us
• 42:01
  grow P9. Everything.
• 42:02
  Because we Shot Two music videos in one weekend.
• 42:05
  Well, we right there. That's a lot of work already.
• 42:08
  It was, it was a lot of work, it was a long weekend, but we get
• 42:12
  together over there and it's funny because Alpena was like,
• 42:15
  amen. If the homie puts out a song
• 42:17
  about, don't got any saw that I got and I saw the better be
• 42:20
  good. It was it lived up to the hype
• 42:25
  for real? Like, I ate so much that I woke
• 42:27
  up feeling like I had a hangover the next day and I didn't even
• 42:30
  drink. I just smoked and
• 42:50
  Chopping it up because like we're like man like you could
• 42:53
  bring like a reality TV show in here and they just be just
• 42:56
  having a just going hey day over here.
• 42:59
  Yeah honestly with the - stories that we had around the table
• 43:02
  with everyone that we've worked with, over the years and
• 43:04
  everything and and it's been, it's been, it's been an awesome
• 43:08
  ride, you know, like heh Casey the promoter, right?
• 43:11
  You know, that we was in Greeley with, you know, he is, you know,
• 43:17
  one of Baby Bash is children's Godfathers.
• 43:20
  Oh, it's all damn, and same with like Ruben boyajian.
• 43:25
  He's a really good community and out of Arizona, Arizona as well.
• 43:28
  And it's just crazy how like we all know each other and but we
• 43:32
  didn't know each other. Like they all have heard our
• 43:34
  names like over the course of 15 years.
• 43:37
  Every single one of them had heard our names on a sheet of
• 43:39
  the West Coast and the most of them a lot of people that had us
• 43:42
  on Instagram or Facebook or whatever.
• 43:43
  A lot of people think that we are from the West Coast.
• 43:46
  Yeah well I mean it's that's that comes with I think with the
• 43:49
  name, right? Like everyone is Zooms Chicano
• 43:51
  rap is West Coast and it's like, yeah, no, like, honestly were
• 43:55
  like, kind of like roaches bad example but, you know, I know, I
• 44:00
  know exactly where everywhere everywhere always multiplying.
• 44:06
  So if you guys could choose right, like tell us about like
• 44:10
  you kind of started to lay the groundwork a little bit of like
• 44:13
  your timeline and how we're here in 23 right now sitting here
• 44:17
  with your see you and about to get a drink that Emily's going.
• 44:20
  To make for you guys. So I wanted to ask like, what?
• 44:27
  When was the moment that you guys felt like we made it?
• 44:30
  Like all this hard work, we're getting there.
• 44:34
  You guys also did mention one of the show's over at hedge, where
• 44:37
  you guys saw your name there or like what if you could describe
• 44:41
  one moment where you felt like this is one of the ones that
• 44:44
  really defined our career. I'd say we're still searching
• 44:49
  for it, man. I'd say it.
• 44:51
  We're not there yet, but if I had to give you one one moment
• 44:57
  for sure, I'd have to say we did it.
• 45:00
  This is just my personal much. I may have a different one but
• 45:04
  we had did a show with Snow the Product.
• 45:05
  And okay Rich Jarren Benton and Who else was on it bill?
• 45:12
  I can't remember. But then this was in our
• 45:15
  hometown, you know, I mean, and we literally that sold out that
• 45:20
  venue hours, probably like Max Capacity of like 1,000 and 1,200
• 45:23
  people, but I mean, they were, it was over code, but when we
• 45:27
  hit that stage and and our city was, you know, was chance.
• 45:30
  Sick and twisted me. I think that right there for me,
• 45:33
  that was in 2012. That was like, man, we have to
• 45:35
  keep going with this. You know, we are picking up
• 45:38
  speed, man. And, and I think that Moment for
• 45:42
  me personally when you always like I wanted more of that.
• 45:45
  Yeah. You know it's like a high that
• 45:46
  you don't get enough of you really don't, you know.
• 45:49
  And so I think that for me was was a big was a big moment
• 45:52
  besides, you know, bringing like a pony and criminal in the
• 45:54
  homies. Look what they all the homies
• 45:56
  down to Kansas, those are huge moments for us.
• 46:00
  Yeah. Well, you know, gosh there's
• 46:05
  been a lot of great ones. I mean heck yeah.
• 46:08
  Are the spring break in Miami? Was insane, a couple years back,
• 46:14
  traveling out to Dallas, you know, just getting out there and
• 46:18
  Performing out of state for me. It was awesome because see big
• 46:21
  seeing and smokes they had gone on tour with I high power.
• 46:25
  So they had gone, a chance to see what it was, like, in
• 46:27
  Colorado or Nebraska or whatever and I actually a lot of things.
• 46:30
  Yeah. It's a good season.
• 46:31
  Yeah. And that's fine.
• 46:33
  At that time. I was a good boy.
• 46:45
  Yeah. Well, you know, I at that time
• 46:47
  like when smoked in in basically, we're going out with
• 46:50
  high-power, I was still recording and secret but not
• 46:54
  able to travel because I had a very controlling physically
• 46:57
  abusive husband that I was married to.
• 47:00
  And I got married like literally at 18 years old and and had my
• 47:04
  son, you know, like four days after my 18th birthday and so
• 47:08
  like for me like it Hard. Like, I was constantly riding
• 47:12
  always had a notebook that I wrote in because I literally
• 47:15
  felt like I was struggling with depression, you know, Suicidal
• 47:18
  Thoughts things like that because I could not express
• 47:20
  myself the way that I had always my entire life.
• 47:23
  I mean, didn't I didn't even have my piano, no more, I wasn't
• 47:26
  even allowed to go play over my mom's house anymore.
• 47:28
  I wasn't allowed to go hang out with my brother.
• 47:29
  Sister had no phone and talk to me, buddy.
• 47:32
  I just sneak out to go see him. I'd go record.
• 47:34
  Sneak on my lunch break to go record, you know, Tornado Alley
• 47:37
  toward Dallas, I forced that on my ex-husband, but then after
• 47:40
  that, That like I couldn't really, I we did some shows in
• 47:43
  town and stuff but I couldn't really do much traveling after
• 47:46
  that. So like after me and my
• 47:48
  ex-husband got a divorce and I still got to travel and I got to
• 47:52
  start, you know, you know, facilitating the events and my
• 47:56
  brother actually getting to enjoy being an artist and again
• 48:00
  enjoy doing the to do the producing that he likes to do
• 48:04
  and focus on those things and then let and then I could just
• 48:07
  focus on, you know, getting the merge put together, you know,
• 48:10
  getting the Those put together and everything like that.
• 48:13
  And and after that, we found our balance and we found our balance
• 48:18
  were able to, you know, just as a certain point before covid, we
• 48:22
  were having a show like once a month.
• 48:24
  Wow. Like in Hutch or whatever
• 48:26
  because we had partnered with different, you know, labels like
• 48:29
  give money boys partner has partnered with us and throwing
• 48:32
  events and we've split doors and things like that, you know?
• 48:36
  And and so I want to say that probably Lee so far like show
• 48:44
  wise what has made me feel like, oh, we made.
• 48:47
  It was probably our 15-year anniversary.
• 48:49
  Back in November, to be honest, we had the highest set of ticket
• 48:53
  sales that we've had since we used to be in SK, you know,
• 48:58
  throwing the shows in the SK as about the highest Monte,
• 49:01
  Cassell's that we've had since then.
• 49:03
  And on top of that, you know, we just we had and look, we had a
• 49:09
  Powerhouse. I mean there was all the best
• 49:13
  artists from this state and then also just everybody flying in
• 49:17
  from Cali and everything to be a part of the event.
• 49:21
  It was, it was, it was amazing to.
• 49:24
  That's a, that's a, that's good memory.
• 49:26
  Yeah, to glad you brought that up.
• 49:28
  Yeah, laughs. Yeah.
• 49:28
  She was going to hear from Bozo who we had just met for the
• 49:33
  first time. You know what I mean?
• 49:35
  Like this bozo. Yes, it was formerly a
• 49:37
  high-powered battery. Now, he does his independent
• 49:39
  things out there. Working with wood big dogs to
• 49:42
  man. So yeah.
• 49:43
  And to be and to be hanging out with them for, you know, for
• 49:47
  days at a time and everything. And for us all to have these
• 49:51
  stories working with the same people, you know, all different
• 49:56
  all different experiences with the same type of group, same
• 50:01
  musicians, but just some awesome stories to share and some really
• 50:04
  great memories. You know, we had a really great
• 50:07
  team behind us that day, the the best armed security He's
• 50:11
  probably in the state. The, you know, shout out to the
• 50:14
  homie Javon who literally worked non-stop because he was our
• 50:18
  driver. So he was driving everyone
• 50:20
  everywhere from the airport to their to the airport, said to
• 50:24
  the runner. The I to Airbnb said, yeah,
• 50:27
  giving drunk people rides because you know, that the leave
• 50:29
  their, you know, their stuff there for the night or whatever
• 50:32
  and then helping us set up and clean up and all that it was
• 50:35
  just in my kids were actually able to go and they helped.
• 50:40
  Run the door and things like that because they're teenagers
• 50:43
  are getting older and so it was just really great to see
• 50:47
  everybody come on and together for a great cause and a great
• 50:54
  time. And you know, to see that most
• 50:57
  people didn't even care about the headliners.
• 51:00
  Yeah, they were there for sick and twisted.
• 51:02
  That's what was so beautiful about it was they were there for
• 51:06
  sick and twisted and we had the biggest crowd in the house and
• 51:10
  we had You know, the most pictures and all that stuff
• 51:13
  taken, probably all night long. We're, we're waiting on our
• 51:17
  like, on again. We haven't met that that like
• 51:21
  yeah, moment, you know, I mean, but I do feel that that moment
• 51:26
  is coming real soon. Yeah, with persistence with hard
• 51:29
  work with education it's bound to happen.
• 51:32
  You and me we got we got people don't understand man that like
• 51:36
  the the footwork is key. You can't just jump into this
• 51:40
  and sit It's just somebody in their inbox.
• 51:42
  Hey man, I'm a rapper and I want to do this.
• 51:43
  Like yeah, me start out but I mean, you have to really put the
• 51:46
  work in. You know what I mean?
• 51:48
  Like there is there's no s. Like yeah, escalator into this
• 51:51
  shit. Like you got to build your
• 51:52
  network. She had to build a relationship
• 51:54
  with people and you know and then that's how it works.
• 51:58
  Yes, how it works but yeah we're still searching me which I hear
• 52:01
  working man we ain't done yet. Yeah no no.
• 52:03
  But I mean like in the reason I asked that question was because
• 52:06
  again like you guys have been doing this for so long that it
• 52:09
  was more around like like to your point into yours as well.
• 52:13
  It was like that your fire just got reignited even more.
• 52:17
  So right it was like at that point back in 2012 and then
• 52:21
  recently in November it was just like wow like in 2012 it was
• 52:25
  this experience of How far you guys work the potential
• 52:31
  dependent and then in November, it was like we're our name is
• 52:36
  out there. People are coming for the name
• 52:38
  and now we're I mean we're going to see more of it man in the
• 52:42
  end. It's just it's getting better
• 52:43
  man. And you know, like my shout out
• 52:45
  to my homie true child to peak of man, but we talked every day
• 52:48
  he gets out on talkbox. He's gonna have to come here and
• 52:50
  bust out the talkbox, right? Oh yeah, he is on.
• 52:53
  The is on the come up right now. Want to Kansas is brightest
• 52:56
  stars me. And he's absolutely Viable.
• 52:59
  We have a video Drop in here soon called the good life with
• 53:01
  him. We were just in Topeka shooting
• 53:04
  that video. Yeah.
• 53:05
  Yeah I mean but what's bring him out here and and all that good
• 53:09
  stuff. Yeah.
• 53:09
  Shoutouts to the Warriors car club for coming out and bringing
• 53:13
  all your whips and everything and shoutouts to all the homies
• 53:15
  that brought their lowrider bikes.
• 53:17
  And, and they're, and they're nice whips out for the day.
• 53:20
  Because it was, it was a really great Vibe.
• 53:23
  And of course, all the families, all the, all the supporting of
• 53:26
  homies wives. Children and everything that
• 53:29
  showed up. But at the video shoot was just
• 53:31
  amazing for such a great Vibe. Everything's coming coming, full
• 53:34
  circle, man, at the home. All love you guys have like this
• 53:39
  coat. There's like there's like a cult
• 53:41
  under like following like this, because the footwork was put in,
• 53:44
  you know, it wasn't like we just dropped music yesterday, right?
• 53:48
  Yeah. We've been grinding at this
• 53:50
  since the Myspace days since. Yeah.
• 53:52
  You know. Yeah.
• 53:55
  Early on. Yeah.
• 53:56
  I feel like I feel like We need a drink now, and to be able to,
• 53:59
  yeah, that's, that's gonna take a little break.
• 54:08
  And then we'll be back, guys, let's go.
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  Guys, welcome back. As you know, we took a break but
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  we're here. We have Big C.
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  We have put you with what you got.
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  Right? Right, that's right, that's
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  right. I am sorry.
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  My English. I'm Asian Bubba.
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  Okay. But guys, we are back.
• 55:48
  We had a little break. If you guys miss us Fanny's.
• 55:51
  You miss everybody. I did miss everyone.
• 55:53
  We're excited because Emily prepared a drink for us.
• 55:55
  I did. I did guys and so we're a little
• 55:58
  drunk now. Now we're not.
• 55:59
  Ya Feelin loose, let's go. It's Friday.
• 56:04
  You feel will lose? You better look out baby when I
• 56:07
  get home. So that's how we're starting.
• 56:13
  Let's go, my man ask me. He's like you guys always get
• 56:19
  drunk on your podcast and I'd be like, fuck.
• 56:21
  Yeah, I do and he likes someone, you come home.
• 56:24
  Are you expecting to get some I said, fuck.
• 56:27
  Yeah. That's right.
• 56:30
  Dear. God demands.
• 56:31
  Exactly like to blame our guests alcoholic.
• 56:35
  It's really The Guess Who are an alcoholic.
• 56:37
  We're not gonna let them drink alone.
• 56:40
  That's just messed up. I just don't like people
• 56:41
  drinking alone. Yeah, that's a bad host.
• 56:44
  I'll tell you not. Not to be sad or anything, but
• 56:47
  drink alone is not fun. No, no, no, it's not.
• 56:50
  If you're going to drink have a friend.
• 56:52
  Yes, but it depends on how hard the day is.
• 56:56
  You can have a drink by yourself.
• 56:59
  We are social drinkers, so we made a podcast out of it.
• 57:02
  So we have more social events to Dragon.
• 57:07
  Well, guys, as you know, I always make us a drink.
• 57:10
  Drink, you know is your Amateur hour Emily?
• 57:13
  Who's the bartender? So today guys, I made a mock toe
• 57:18
  and a cocktail today. I made a strawberry cocoa Breeze
• 57:22
  with and without vodka, right, vodka guys be using vodka.
• 57:26
  Yeah, that's crazy. I'm like took us back to high
• 57:28
  school. She got some strawberries or
• 57:31
  legit. You guys I really made a jungle
• 57:33
  juice. Squirter exactly.
• 57:48
  We also got some Sonic ice out, how fancy we went.
• 57:51
  Yeah, I went pretty fancy. I went to go get some Sonic
• 57:54
  eyes. It took a while to bring me some
• 57:56
  ice house again, what the fuck? How long it takes to make a bag
• 57:58
  of ice and they're like, we have to get it from the, from the
• 58:01
  freezer and I was like, oh, okay, Cox.
• 58:04
  A lot of work to get that out of the freezer.
• 58:06
  Fuck you cost me, 3229? Benign sense of like, what the
• 58:11
  fuck next time? I'm getting ice somewhere else.
• 58:15
  But anyways, guys, so I made a special drink for you guys so
• 58:19
  altogether, make it at home. I've something for the listeners
• 58:23
  who maybe want to listen to this episode.
• 58:26
  Yes, yes. So, I'm what I have here is I
• 58:30
  have some simply lemonade, some strawberries and I have some
• 58:34
  real Gourmet cream of coconut. As we caught up with your, we
• 58:41
  don't practice this week off, grandma, and then flash is some
• 58:46
  Grandma. Yes.
• 58:47
  And then today I'm using Smirnoff.
• 58:49
  You guys are going to be throwing way back.
• 58:52
  He said Barton that's really tasty.
• 58:56
  Yes, I'm Eunice near up. Sneering off Smirnoff, Vodka
• 59:00
  flavor strawberry. So what you guys do is you just
• 59:03
  garnish. Some, is it garnish or just
• 59:06
  mush? It's mush mush.
• 59:09
  Okay. That with strawberries model,
• 59:12
  the strawberries strawberries. Then after that, you you pour
• 59:17
  some, you're eliminating there and then some just a little bit
• 59:21
  of, you know, the coconut cream, shake it, Stir It, add some put
• 59:26
  it over ice done, nice and simple.
• 59:29
  Nice to fire is good bartender. So, holla at me, if you need me,
• 59:36
  do that your Weddings But it only cost me $100 an hour.
• 59:40
  What that bag you can hit her up.
• 59:41
  I hear Co cast on Instagram or Here's to You POD at gmail.com.
• 59:51
  Oh yes by Chuka grading. Hear what you got?
• 59:55
  I'm struggling opened up a you know what I would I would most
• 1:00:01
  definitely give it a good eight especially since the The Ice
• 1:00:07
  that you use actually really tops it off.
• 1:00:10
  Yeah, I'll tell you man, that ice really that actually your
• 1:00:14
  fancy. Thank God for Emily taking some
• 1:00:21
  time to wait on them, but continuing to give some
• 1:00:24
  shoutouts. Shouts.
• 1:00:25
  Again, we went to the break because we we ended on a real
• 1:00:28
  high note in that last segment, we were talking about all the
• 1:00:31
  accomplishments that you guys have had over the last couple of
• 1:00:34
  years. So as we come back into the
• 1:00:37
  segment, we wanted to start off like what are what would you say
• 1:00:41
  are like the most memorable shows that you two had or if you
• 1:00:44
  had to pick one, what would be the most memorable show that you
• 1:00:46
  guys have had? Okay.
• 1:00:52
  You're like so it's hard. So we we had did a show with the
• 1:00:56
  homeboy mr. Criminal.
• 1:00:58
  And I'm not saying homies name for no clout and I'm saying we
• 1:01:00
  learned to be at the homeboys president's, right?
• 1:01:03
  But we had brought him down to Valley Center Kansas, right?
• 1:01:07
  I know Valley Center, right, but we were supposed to do it in
• 1:01:11
  Wichita. This is in 2019.
• 1:01:13
  We ended up doing it at a small venue in Valley Center because
• 1:01:17
  the I knew that we were looking to do it as it didn't fall
• 1:01:20
  through. Yeah.
• 1:01:20
  They double-booked in our so bad.
• 1:01:22
  Double booked. Yeah, it's happened.
• 1:01:24
  Many times. But we need up doing it Valley
• 1:01:27
  Center and it would It was crazy that we even did it the way we
• 1:01:31
  did it but it was in like a mini Theatres.
• 1:01:34
  Uh-huh. Right.
• 1:01:34
  So the seeds kind of went, you know, sit at an angle.
• 1:01:38
  Yeah. And have the stage up front.
• 1:01:40
  Well, they had church service the next day, right?
• 1:01:43
  So can you picture A hip-hop? You know, Chicano rap show in
• 1:01:47
  small-town Valley Center on a Saturday night.
• 1:01:50
  Uh-huh. Right.
• 1:01:52
  And that they and I hope he's got smoked out.
• 1:01:55
  We were blazing light. Up in the crowd and we were
• 1:02:00
  having make announcements over and over again.
• 1:02:02
  You have to do that outside. Yeah.
• 1:02:04
  You can't be more than just smoking shuts out the stone in
• 1:02:10
  Orlando. They came to actually help.
• 1:02:12
  You're like, thank you for providing the supply.
• 1:02:15
  Yeah, exactly man. Plenty to go around that night.
• 1:02:19
  Yeah. That's been dealt smoke a
• 1:02:20
  criminal but that show I'd say would be be a highlight for me
• 1:02:24
  man because we had Shadow come out for that event.
• 1:02:26
  Yes, your Shadow. He and his wife and daughter.
• 1:02:29
  I got to attend because it was an all ages event.
• 1:02:31
  So they were able to bring their little one, which was wild.
• 1:02:34
  Yeah. Say it was wild.
• 1:02:36
  But yeah, we had Shadow, mr. Criminal little quite, they was
• 1:02:40
  there that night, so we had a lot of the West Coast Chicano
• 1:02:42
  rap stars in Kansas in Valley Center, man.
• 1:02:45
  So to have them all in Valley Center Kansas again, you know, I
• 1:02:49
  mean, you think we'd be, we'd be in Wichita, Dodge liberal
• 1:02:53
  Garden, somewhere like that. But not, we were in Valley
• 1:02:55
  Center, man, the crew, it to be successful.
• 1:03:07
  Little bit of both to put the the homies businesses yeah,
• 1:03:13
  crazy night in Valley Center, that would it out there.
• 1:03:16
  But I mean I was here, I didn't know we had a stripper in the
• 1:03:24
  wild and then the next day we were all praising Jesus.
• 1:03:31
  When the show was over, we were cleaning up.
• 1:03:33
  We were going through there was say he didn't like because the
• 1:03:36
  owner came in was like, oh yeah we had to open up all the doors.
• 1:03:40
  Yeah. Air the place out fans
• 1:03:43
  everywhere. Yeah help him clean up.
• 1:03:46
  That was a highlight and brother place down.
• 1:03:48
  Yeah, it don't show for me. Oh yeah.
• 1:03:52
  My kids loved that one too. Because I was one of those that
• 1:03:54
  they were actually able to go to as well.
• 1:03:56
  So that was a funny one. Yeah.
• 1:03:58
  But I I want to say like the most memorable for me would have
• 1:04:03
  to be the show at Aftershock with criminal and mr.
• 1:04:08
  Shadow that one was the most memorable for me.
• 1:04:11
  Because I like even though we had done like the little Rob
• 1:04:15
  show before that that was like my first time like really seeing
• 1:04:23
  a packed house and like getting to meet Criminal Mr. Shadow,
• 1:04:30
  because you yourself to wait for a while.
• 1:04:32
  Yeah, look, I said I was, I was dealing with that with that
• 1:04:36
  abusive marriage that I was in for almost a decade, you know.
• 1:04:39
  So it was like, it was, it was really, it was really great to
• 1:04:43
  see like everybody that my brother had talked about over
• 1:04:45
  the years. It get to meet everyone in
• 1:04:47
  person and then after that obviously like the relationships
• 1:04:51
  have just grown major to the point, you know that we have
• 1:04:56
  great you know, relationships with With like, the artist
• 1:05:00
  family members outside of the music, you know?
• 1:05:04
  And that's that's really cool, you know?
• 1:05:06
  Yeah. And you know, I really do, you
• 1:05:08
  know, appreciate, you know, a Shadows wife supports, she's
• 1:05:12
  been a huge fan of sick and twisted for a long time.
• 1:05:15
  So I want to shout her out because I really want to, you
• 1:05:17
  know, express my appreciation for her because she's been just
• 1:05:21
  an awesome support for us and and has always followed us on
• 1:05:25
  the Instagram and it has been an awesome fan herself as well.
• 1:05:29
  Also, if we built great relationships, you know, through
• 1:05:32
  again, through the music and yeah, and the experience is the
• 1:05:36
  shows me. You can't take those memories
• 1:05:38
  away. Yeah, I mean those are just
• 1:05:40
  ingrained and and good to be there for a very long time.
• 1:05:43
  Yeah. So we want to take another step
• 1:05:46
  into maybe personal life, a little bit because I know that
• 1:05:50
  when we had a chance to connect you were telling me that you
• 1:05:54
  wanted a even touch on other heavier subjects, I quote,
• 1:05:57
  unquote heavier, and what? I mean that when I say I say,
• 1:05:59
  like, you want to talk about the importance, of mental, health
• 1:06:02
  and Friends, such as taking care of yourself.
• 1:06:04
  And again, bringing it all back to, like, the reason why you
• 1:06:07
  guys are Chicanos a trap, is you have a voice, you have a
• 1:06:11
  platform, you want to be able to share what's coming out there.
• 1:06:14
  So I wanted to just kind of start off with, like, asking you
• 1:06:17
  guys like something that you're willing to share with us of
• 1:06:21
  like, what has been a big challenge that you face in your
• 1:06:25
  life, or even a music and how did you guys overcome that?
• 1:06:30
  And I say for for me, just being able to communicate with people.
• 1:06:36
  Hmm. Yeah, I mean, for me personally
• 1:06:39
  I had a just shut down, you know, me and I if something
• 1:06:42
  something's going on, you know, life gets hard sometimes, maybe
• 1:06:45
  a lot actually, and I just was the type to again not address my
• 1:06:50
  mental health issues, you know, like borderline childhood
• 1:06:53
  issues, you know, things have happened in my life like that
• 1:06:56
  you just suppress, you know like you know, if it's called
• 1:06:58
  masking. Something like that.
• 1:06:59
  But I like ya got really good at that, you know?
• 1:07:02
  I mean, and I just realized I like, you know, open
• 1:07:06
  communication is key, man. I don't think there's you can
• 1:07:09
  solve anything with it with communication, right?
• 1:07:12
  With just a sit-down, which is a sit-down, you know, I mean, even
• 1:07:14
  if it's to get something out, you know, I mean, because I
• 1:07:17
  think a lot of times when I was younger, why I started
• 1:07:19
  gangbanging and it started getting, you know, like just
• 1:07:22
  didn't give a fuck, you know, was because of my mental health,
• 1:07:24
  you know? I mean parents split up just
• 1:07:27
  like just a lot of things. Then, you know, and I took it to
• 1:07:31
  substance abuse, you know? I mean, I took it to I would to
• 1:07:35
  get it out, I would cry it out and when I cried it out, I was
• 1:07:38
  probably doing some tequila or something cause I wasn't dealing
• 1:07:41
  with things in a healthy way. And so I think just to again,
• 1:07:45
  find who you are, you know, find who that a.j. is, who that Big C
• 1:07:49
  is. I had a really had a slow the
• 1:07:51
  fuck down and tell that individual that I got them.
• 1:07:56
  Yeah, that was the Inner child had to talk to myself, man,
• 1:08:03
  seriously, because I didn't, like, who I was.
• 1:08:05
  I didn't mentally, I would see myself and not just not like it,
• 1:08:10
  you know? I mean, and then I took that out
• 1:08:12
  in my drinking and other just things, I'm not proud of, but,
• 1:08:18
  but again, yeah, just happened. Back in and loving yourself and
• 1:08:21
  that really, really helped alleviate a lot of that strain
• 1:08:26
  on the mental. And like, it just fine.
• 1:08:28
  Back in and like feeling again. Yeah, you know, I mean to feel
• 1:08:34
  well I want to commend you first and say thank you for being so
• 1:08:37
  vulnerable. And I appreciate your sharing
• 1:08:39
  that with everyone and a lot of people who share that.
• 1:08:41
  Yeah. Yeah, man.
• 1:08:42
  It's, it's been, it's been a journey man, you know, me and
• 1:08:46
  that's why I'm coming here and thank you guys for the platform.
• 1:08:48
  And because again, mental health awareness is a big push of ours
• 1:08:54
  right now about. Ruka will go into her current
• 1:08:56
  things that she's going on with and, and stuff like that.
• 1:08:58
  That man. But, but yeah, again, just my
• 1:09:01
  message to anybody out there that is struggling with mental
• 1:09:03
  health. Really really open up man.
• 1:09:08
  You got to talk you know because again you know people are there
• 1:09:13
  to help you but I mean you also have to help yourself.
• 1:09:16
  No one's going to come and pour into you.
• 1:09:17
  No one's going to come save you man that's always found myself.
• 1:09:20
  Having all kinds of different excuses, you know.
• 1:09:23
  I mean like you know, whatever the reason was for me to Lose
• 1:09:26
  Myself. Yeah, you know, it's always a
• 1:09:28
  good reason, hmm. You know, I mean so yeah man,
• 1:09:32
  just fall in love with yourself man.
• 1:09:33
  And then just watch everything else fall.
• 1:09:35
  All fall in line. It's beautiful man.
• 1:09:37
  It is sobriety for one is beautiful because that's just my
• 1:09:40
  story. Yeah because I was using
• 1:09:42
  substance in to again to alleviate me from life and it
• 1:09:47
  and things I wasn't talking about.
• 1:09:50
  Yeah you know I mean so it's just beautiful man to again fall
• 1:09:53
  in love with yourself and everything else would be good
• 1:09:55
  and put God first. Yeah, like we joke about having
• 1:09:59
  drinks on the podcast but that's also why we do try to do some
• 1:10:02
  mock tell options. Yeah.
• 1:10:04
  And I've been, you know what I Create that that, you know, just
• 1:10:08
  to have that as an option, you know, I mean, oh yeah, have you
• 1:10:10
  got something to keep in mind too?
• 1:10:11
  And if you guys have any Gathering and you guys did very
• 1:10:14
  good job today, I appreciate it. You know?
• 1:10:16
  I mean because you know, honestly it's been about good
• 1:10:19
  nine months since I've been sober.
• 1:10:22
  Wow, thank you. You guys did a great job.
• 1:10:29
  Thank you. Thank you.
• 1:10:35
  So, Pachuca is there. If you could send a message out,
• 1:10:39
  what would that be? Well, you know, there are, there
• 1:10:47
  is a lot, there is so much that goes on in my life because I am
• 1:10:52
  a single mom with three kids. Let him know Pachuca and I've
• 1:10:55
  been raising them on my own for eight years now.
• 1:10:59
  No party ears. Now and yeah, I'm solely a mom
• 1:11:03
  and dad and I and I Bringing all the income and I, and I make
• 1:11:07
  sure they have everything that they need, but besides that, you
• 1:11:10
  know what I mean. I also keep my heart open and
• 1:11:12
  raise my and help raise my boyfriend's children, and
• 1:11:16
  they're awesome. I call him my bonus kids because
• 1:11:18
  they rely RI bonus to have. They really are.
• 1:11:22
  Even though they all come with their own challenges in
• 1:11:26
  everything that come with them, they are amazing.
• 1:11:30
  And I really am blessed with the world's best children.
• 1:11:34
  I swear are because even though they have their faults and
• 1:11:37
  everything, they have definitely taken a lot of what I have to
• 1:11:41
  say to heart. And listen, you know, for, for
• 1:11:47
  as a domestic violence Survivor and I mean Survivor.
• 1:11:50
  Yeah. I mean, oh man.
• 1:11:53
  Yeah, so that that again, that's trauma.
• 1:11:57
  Yeah, yeah. Trauma is, is the root of of
• 1:12:03
  depression anxiety? Yeah, you know, I mean, Is
• 1:12:05
  traumas that need to be to be addressed, you know, I mean and
• 1:12:10
  and I kind of did like what what what big cease you know kind of
• 1:12:14
  fell into it first when our divorce happened?
• 1:12:19
  Because you know, we were brought up as you know that's
• 1:12:23
  Catholics and as a married woman in the Catholic church today the
• 1:12:27
  divorce. It's just you know that's that's
• 1:12:30
  not nothing. What that know what do you want
• 1:12:32
  to take it with a grain of salt at all?
• 1:12:35
  And in. And so it was, it was a huge
• 1:12:38
  decision to make, but I had to because it was just, it was a
• 1:12:40
  save my life but not just mine, but my kids.
• 1:12:42
  Exact, they were starting to get it there.
• 1:12:44
  I mean, they were starting to talk and and open up to people
• 1:12:48
  and it was at, oh my gosh. Like I don't want to lose my
• 1:12:50
  kids because of this man, so I don't know how many times I've
• 1:12:53
  had to break my own heart. You know, for that that my
• 1:12:59
  children to have that consistency of a loving
• 1:13:01
  household, no matter what it took, no matter if I I was in
• 1:13:05
  love with somebody or not, I would have to let them go
• 1:13:08
  because my children had to teach my children by example, that I
• 1:13:11
  don't put up with that and I that that is not acceptable.
• 1:13:15
  That behavior is not acceptable, no matter what.
• 1:13:18
  And then on top of that, you know, and I mean like, they're
• 1:13:22
  all good becoming teenagers course.
• 1:13:24
  I have a lot of teenagers and I just have one that's younger.
• 1:13:28
  She's nine, but everyone else is, you know, preteen it up, you
• 1:13:32
  know. So are you all right?
• 1:13:35
  Little sass and all that comes with them.
• 1:13:37
  Oh man, I my brother's a teenager.
• 1:13:39
  So like, we're, we're going through it and it's, oh, that's
• 1:13:44
  a struggle. Holy it.
• 1:13:45
  Is it just a different breed? Hold this, you know, abuse my
• 1:14:08
  poor child was there the whole time and unfortunately, she
• 1:14:12
  couldn't speak, she didn't speak till she was howl until she
• 1:14:15
  spoke like three words sentences.
• 1:14:17
  Probably by the age of five. Oh wow.
• 1:14:19
  Yeah, so between, you know, two years old, when a child starts
• 1:14:24
  really developing the speak till she was five, she could not say
• 1:14:29
  more than a couple two, three words to let you know how she
• 1:14:33
  was feeling or whatever. So, now that She's been able to
• 1:14:37
  open up and it's like the emotional floodgates are coming
• 1:14:40
  out. And on top of that, she's going
• 1:14:41
  through, she's going through puberty of course.
• 1:14:44
  Yeah. And she is beautiful.
• 1:14:48
  Yeah, so beautiful. And she literally is so tall for
• 1:14:52
  12 years old and she's two inches shorter than me.
• 1:14:55
  And this little girl is, gosh way more busty or than me and
• 1:14:58
  everything. I mean, this is absolutely
• 1:15:00
  beautiful. She got the thick hair.
• 1:15:02
  I always wished. I had all that ant but but So
• 1:15:05
  sad because of some severe bullying.
• 1:15:09
  My daughter is so self-conscious, so again, the
• 1:15:13
  fuck them. Yeah.
• 1:15:14
  So yeah, they just, they just left my kids
• 1:15:31
  and I always tell her that all the time.
• 1:15:39
  Is going to make them feel like the worst person on the planet,
• 1:15:43
  I will do it. I will cut them.
• 1:15:44
  I will cut them with my words before I even have to touch them
• 1:15:47
  with my hands and you know, she I am my daughter's best friend.
• 1:15:53
  I am, I'm her, I am her advocate, I am her, I am her.
• 1:15:57
  I guess what Jason would say, Jason platter shut us who Jason
• 1:16:01
  Superman to Superman of Wichita the Sedgwick County area.
• 1:16:05
  And in the mental health field, you know, I had a long
• 1:16:09
  conversation with him last night, we had to make the
• 1:16:12
  hardest decision ever, you know, the school district decided not
• 1:16:16
  to listen to me for a year and a half.
• 1:16:18
  And she wasn't getting the resources that she needed for
• 1:16:20
  her IEP, for the proper IEP. Anyways, for her behavioral
• 1:16:24
  health is pretty pretty tough each they're given to yeah.
• 1:16:28
  And so they drag their feet for a year and a half to the point
• 1:16:31
  that she was getting the cops called on her and all kinds of
• 1:16:34
  stuff. I DCF show Own up on my
• 1:16:35
  doorstep. I swear twice a month.
• 1:16:38
  It was ridiculous. Finally, we get her transferred
• 1:16:41
  to the right school by. Then she didn't trust.
• 1:16:43
  Nobody has. Now, she has trust issues.
• 1:16:45
  You don't trust somebody. She's paranoid.
• 1:16:47
  She thinks everybody are someone's laughing in the room.
• 1:16:50
  Thanks for laughing at her, even though they were laughing about
• 1:16:52
  their own little side conversation.
• 1:16:53
  I had nothing to do with her like and so it got, yeah, it got
• 1:16:57
  to a point, he's triggered. You just don't know what I
• 1:17:01
  literally almost buried my daughter.
• 1:17:03
  She tied herself. To a hand rail in my room.
• 1:17:07
  That's 2 inches off the floor. And when I found her, she was
• 1:17:10
  purple and blue and I had to bring my daughter back and it
• 1:17:14
  was the scariest thing ever. And luckily I have training and
• 1:17:17
  I as a social worker assistant at Allied Health.
• 1:17:20
  I learned you know how to do all of those things to save people's
• 1:17:23
  lives. In case I were to work in the as
• 1:17:26
  you know in a facility like a Horizons or anything like that.
• 1:17:29
  Were some of you marinara or anything like that.
• 1:17:32
  And so I was able to do That get ahold of 9/11, you know, the all
• 1:17:37
  the children, banded together to help me save her, because she
• 1:17:40
  weighs the time she wages. So much as me, so trying to cut
• 1:17:44
  her down and everything. I had to have help from the from
• 1:17:47
  the two older kids and everything.
• 1:17:48
  And so they're all having to go to through therapy as well on
• 1:17:52
  top of everything that's going on.
• 1:17:53
  With our whole world's, it's been flipped upside down man.
• 1:17:56
  Yeah, it just turned upside down and luckily you know, a lot of
• 1:18:00
  people don't have very good experiences with cement Francis
• 1:18:03
  st. Francis Ministries.
• 1:18:04
  But thanks. And I have Sarah Collins, the
• 1:18:08
  best, probably caseworker. And in the area, I guarantee you
• 1:18:13
  who's been working with our family inside the home and then,
• 1:18:17
  you know, Horizons, I don't have the best things to say about
• 1:18:21
  them, but they have their crisis team has been really great
• 1:18:25
  working with my daughter, talking her out of hurting
• 1:18:28
  herself, a bunch and then, of course, her case management
• 1:18:32
  worker, Brandi husband, awesome. Um, she just took her for
• 1:18:36
  coffee. Last week, she spends lots of
• 1:18:38
  time with her. It takes a village generally, it
• 1:18:42
  really does. And it got to a point where she
• 1:18:43
  couldn't go to school. You know, she can't go to school
• 1:18:45
  so like you know, I was working 90-hour weeks.
• 1:18:48
  I was working full-time job. I was working two part-time jobs
• 1:18:50
  and then also doing the cleaning cleaning houses and doing shows
• 1:18:54
  and stuff. And so you know, I just slow
• 1:18:56
  down all that stuff. So now I'm just working for
• 1:18:58
  myself and have been for the past couple months, which is the
• 1:19:01
  scariest thing that one person can do.
• 1:19:03
  I don't know what's gonna happen.
• 1:19:05
  Yeah. Is the scariest thing a person
• 1:19:06
  could do, but you just, you just gotta put your faith in God and
• 1:19:09
  be like, okay, you know what I mean?
• 1:19:12
  We were step were established and, and my business has been
• 1:19:15
  established the cleaning business business stylish for a
• 1:19:17
  year now. So I do have clients who can
• 1:19:20
  refer me to more people if I need to pick up more jobs, if I,
• 1:19:23
  you know, my sister started her vending machine, luckily around
• 1:19:26
  this time. So we've been how I've been
• 1:19:27
  helping her a lot with that kind of stuff too.
• 1:19:29
  And so, I kind of just like, looking at it in more of a
• 1:19:31
  positive name of fucking hell. Yeah, that's what she said.
• 1:19:35
  That's that's that's that's one thing.
• 1:19:38
  That's what if I give you props that's fuck you.
• 1:19:41
  Like, if I bring up an idea or something to her, you know, and
• 1:19:44
  of course, you know, ain't nothing free in this world.
• 1:19:46
  Oh no, she's on it. You know, she's like how.
• 1:19:49
  Okay, let's come up with a plan? Let's see where we get the
• 1:19:51
  funds, or how we can do, whatever, you know.
• 1:19:54
  I mean, so like again, man, just to go back to the mental health.
• 1:19:58
  Yeah, I mean it's especially with our youth out here, man.
• 1:20:01
  It's so important, it's so important worry about the these
• 1:20:04
  kids. Like it scares me.
• 1:20:07
  Yeah. In the state of Kansas has the
• 1:20:09
  worst mental health system because especially for for the
• 1:20:13
  Youth, that's actually easier for an adult to get help that it
• 1:20:15
  is for a child. My daughter has been on a
• 1:20:19
  waiting list for months to get just a psych eval just to find
• 1:20:25
  out what all is going on with her.
• 1:20:26
  Yeah. And we still had six and a half
• 1:20:29
  had six and a half months left on that waiting list.
• 1:20:32
  When I got the phone call on Monday that my daughter got.
• 1:20:35
  It accepted for apt RF facility, which is a long-term care
• 1:20:38
  facility to where she can actually get the Intensive Care
• 1:20:41
  help. As I give out God's, not answer
• 1:20:43
  a yes on site but unfortunately you don't, they don't, they
• 1:20:48
  don't give you this information, you know, like you have to go
• 1:20:50
  through. They have to go through therapy.
• 1:20:52
  They have to they have to you know be doing the in-home
• 1:20:56
  therapy and all that stuff. First before they'll even
• 1:20:59
  qualify you for an SED waiver and that SED waiver will then
• 1:21:04
  help you. Hopefully qualified to get on
• 1:21:07
  the PTR, F waiting list, but you may or may not qualify your
• 1:21:11
  child may or may not qualify you know?
• 1:21:13
  So you know I my prayers go out to those families who didn't
• 1:21:17
  qualify for those lists. I don't know what their
• 1:21:19
  qualifications are. I'll just know that my daughter
• 1:21:21
  unfortunately, received criminal charges for attacking a para at
• 1:21:27
  school, when DCF court, ordered me to have her in person in
• 1:21:30
  school, when she shouldn't have been.
• 1:21:33
  She shouldn't have been there because her The thing was so
• 1:21:35
  bad. That everybody kept telling me,
• 1:21:37
  I don't even know why they are making her come here, she wasn't
• 1:21:40
  even learning anymore. She was just sitting in a room
• 1:21:42
  with no windows All Day coloring, making pictures, all
• 1:21:47
  kinds of stuff. But they were forcing me to take
• 1:21:49
  her there because they didn't feel like they had enough
• 1:21:53
  supervision for my children because I'm one person, you
• 1:21:57
  know. And so that and that's when I
• 1:21:59
  was like, okay, well, you know what, you think that I'm just
• 1:22:01
  going to go ahead and step away from this job and then this job
• 1:22:03
  and then I'll just, you know what I mean.
• 1:22:05
  And slowly go to war for myself. Because if you guys, if you
• 1:22:09
  people think that, then you're horribly mistaken because I
• 1:22:13
  always work my work schedules, and I work these flexible jobs
• 1:22:16
  and things like that, so that I can always make sure that I
• 1:22:19
  facilitate that, I'm there to be.
• 1:22:21
  Make sure she's on her classes that I work for a place that
• 1:22:24
  allow me to bring her there with me.
• 1:22:26
  If I needed to be there or whatever, and, but
• 1:22:29
  unfortunately, you know, we can't even, I can't eat my
• 1:22:33
  brother. Used to watch her a lot, you
• 1:22:35
  know. All my kids a lot.
• 1:22:36
  He's been more of a father to them than their own dad, you
• 1:22:39
  know, young. So it was just sad to the point
• 1:22:42
  where my brother couldn't even take care of her anymore because
• 1:22:45
  she's lashing out and getting violent with family.
• 1:22:47
  She was asking, y'all getting violent with me and my and my
• 1:22:49
  other children in the home, putting everyone else at risk
• 1:22:51
  and things like that. And so that took it.
• 1:22:54
  All of that, had to happen in order for her to get the help
• 1:22:56
  that she needs because the state of Kansas passed a law to years
• 1:22:59
  ago for the children to have to go through all of these steps
• 1:23:03
  children order to get into a facility.
• 1:23:05
  Adults as fuck children. So, we're talking about a little
• 1:23:08
  girl. We could solve that before we
• 1:23:11
  can solve all the issues before that happened.
• 1:23:14
  Exactly. So why do you, why does a kid
• 1:23:16
  have to lash out to show you that.
• 1:23:17
  They, there's something wrong with them or like multiple
• 1:23:20
  multiple multiple multiple times.
• 1:23:22
  And then the a, you know, how like, there's people, like,
• 1:23:25
  people are a dick like, say, like alcoholics or drug abuse
• 1:23:28
  people. You know, they get the help
• 1:23:30
  quick eggs. I was thinking the exact same
• 1:23:33
  thing, you know. And then, but then kids like you
• 1:23:35
  Do they have to go to this step? This step, this step?
• 1:23:37
  Oh, we have to see how they are with other people.
• 1:23:39
  Still, wait on a waiting list for six months for a kid.
• 1:23:42
  Barely just try to make the kids are still growing at the end.
• 1:23:45
  They but what they see is, what they going to show, what they
• 1:23:49
  grow up to, you know what I mean.
• 1:23:51
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. We, it just makes me mad.
• 1:23:53
  The fact that the main character is your kid, like you.
• 1:23:57
  That's who you want to, who you survived, who you you're
• 1:24:02
  surviving for, and to provide for, oh yeah.
• 1:24:05
  Yeah, best believe. And it's crazy because she
• 1:24:07
  probably could have gotten like multiple charges before that but
• 1:24:11
  each and every time because I did go to college for political
• 1:24:15
  science and have a social work license, I was able to call them
• 1:24:20
  out and say, hey, you can't talk to my kid, I'm not there.
• 1:24:25
  Yeah. They're like oh we're not
• 1:24:26
  questioning, it doesn't matter. You are not a new police
• 1:24:31
  officer. Sir.
• 1:24:32
  You are not a professional. Yeah, don't be crushed.
• 1:24:35
  Seeing my kid don't be, don't be trying to ask her why she did or
• 1:24:37
  anything like that. Because guess what, you can use
• 1:24:40
  everything that she says, against her, in the porter law
• 1:24:42
  and you will, and you will, when it comes down to it, you will,
• 1:24:45
  you will use that recording. That's on you.
• 1:24:46
  And you'll use everything that my daughter screaming and all
• 1:24:49
  this stuff out with that. She can't control and you will
• 1:24:51
  use it against her in there you. They just need to see who the
• 1:24:54
  real. Yeah.
• 1:24:55
  Really. Yeah, really?
• 1:24:56
  Yeah. And so, and so now not like she
• 1:25:00
  feels attacked like yeah, or she's gonna react because she
• 1:25:03
  feels that talk but like, you don't They don't know really how
• 1:25:06
  she really is when she's calm. And yeah, you know, and so it
• 1:25:09
  was great because like, well, 75% officers that had contact
• 1:25:12
  with my daughter, were amazing. And I give hats out to them, I
• 1:25:17
  believe one of them was a sergeant, Sergeant Warren, from
• 1:25:23
  not just in Police Department. He was amazing.
• 1:25:25
  He were he'd been there multiple times for my daughter and then
• 1:25:29
  up Aidan, I believe he actually called and checked after the
• 1:25:33
  fact, just to see if My daughter was okay 9:00 at night, there's
• 1:25:37
  to see if she was okay, good people out there and there is
• 1:25:40
  there are still amazing. There are still amazing officers
• 1:25:43
  out there. Unfortunately, we have ran
• 1:25:45
  across a few that I did have to get investigated in one of them
• 1:25:48
  was overturned because they make stuff the paperwork so to speak
• 1:25:54
  and was trying to get me to take my daughter for intake so that
• 1:25:58
  she could receive charges those like no sir.
• 1:26:00
  Excuse me, that's not. No, no, it's not how we doing
• 1:26:03
  on. Yeah, that's how we do that.
• 1:26:06
  Exactly, you know, during this process with my knees and you
• 1:26:10
  know, her daughter, we've realized that, I mean there's a
• 1:26:13
  lot of kids out there like my niece and they're already in
• 1:26:17
  these facilities. They're yeah.
• 1:26:18
  They're they're in these long-term places trying to work
• 1:26:21
  on themselves so they can get back home and be a better
• 1:26:23
  version of themselves, you know? I mean, so, I mean again, like
• 1:26:28
  with with any of the music videos, the music, the messages
• 1:26:31
  and oh man, it's for healing. Yeah, that's what the Into the
• 1:26:35
  Stars. We go like that track right
• 1:26:38
  there, you know, it's really about just, you know, I mean,
• 1:26:41
  again, just healing Mangin. Yeah.
• 1:26:43
  And luckily, you know, like we've been able to lead, by
• 1:26:45
  example. So like my children, they've
• 1:26:47
  been to all pretty much every single protests have ever been
• 1:26:51
  at or participated in since they were born.
• 1:26:54
  Yeah, I mean the first protest little island was in when he was
• 1:26:57
  he was being carried for the DREAM Act protest that we did in
• 1:27:01
  downtown Salina that the Diocese of soul China sponsored and I
• 1:27:09
  spoke and everything there at that event.
• 1:27:11
  But then, you know, back when we did the mob leader was their
• 1:27:17
  black lives matter. She's been there at a lot of
• 1:27:19
  protest to the it mean when she felt like she was wrong.
• 1:27:21
  She knew I can come to Mommy and she'll get it fixed.
• 1:27:24
  Like she'll check these people like she knows she feels wrong
• 1:27:28
  or somebody did something wrong to her.
• 1:27:30
  She could tell me anything and I will and I'll Mexican.
• 1:27:33
  Yeah, and I will get it and I will get It handled and I won't,
• 1:27:36
  you know, and we'll and and even if she just needs help like
• 1:27:39
  communicating with somebody, like she's having a hard time
• 1:27:42
  explaining how she feels or as having a hard time confronting,
• 1:27:48
  somebody that that hurt her feelings.
• 1:27:51
  She said him, she can let me know what's going on and I can
• 1:27:54
  help mediate and the next thing, you know, everybody's
• 1:27:56
  everybody's cooler but he's everybody's communicating
• 1:27:58
  letting each other know how they feel and then everybody's going
• 1:28:00
  about their day and I'm also in a more positive way.
• 1:28:04
  But, you know, I Luckily I had a lot of experience doing youth
• 1:28:08
  camps and things like that and organizing a lot of those and
• 1:28:12
  have a background in something. But I like I said, my hats off
• 1:28:15
  to those people. That don't know.
• 1:28:17
  Yeah, you know that the the system unfortunately takes
• 1:28:21
  advantage of the ignorance of people not educating themselves.
• 1:28:25
  What their rights are. There are so many lawsuits that
• 1:28:29
  could have been brought up against DCF over to over the
• 1:28:33
  course of the Gosh, just just one year that I've been dealing
• 1:28:37
  with them. And and, you know, I best
• 1:28:40
  believe I document everything, I document everything and I and I
• 1:28:44
  handle everything accordingly. And if it doesn't get taken care
• 1:28:47
  of, there's there's a 12 months statute of limitation on the,
• 1:28:50
  I'll get you on what they do. Yeah.
• 1:28:53
  Yeah. I could do it for anything but
• 1:29:06
  you show people that, you know, as long as you set your mind to
• 1:29:09
  it and your heart and what you love.
• 1:29:11
  Oh yeah, then you could get it. Oh yeah, I got an advocate for
• 1:29:14
  yourself because he said, you know, if you don't believe in
• 1:29:17
  yourself, then how do you expect somebody believe in you?
• 1:29:20
  Yeah, if you don't invest in your own self financially, how
• 1:29:23
  do you expect somebody else to find to, to, to invest in you?
• 1:29:27
  If you, if you are not independent at all, ever in your
• 1:29:32
  life, how can you ever expect Anybody ever to be there for
• 1:29:38
  you, in to be the one to care? Take for you?
• 1:29:40
  You don't I'm saying like, if you had to be the caretaker
• 1:29:42
  first in order to know how it feels like to be the one that
• 1:29:45
  has to, you know, provide for a household of five or seven.
• 1:29:49
  You know, I kind of understood a little bit of where my
• 1:29:53
  ex-husband's mental health, probably went South once I
• 1:29:55
  became a single mom, right? Because then I you know real
• 1:29:58
  quick though. Fucking I want.
• 1:30:02
  Well, well, you know, he Stay at home, mom for a while, you know.
• 1:30:06
  So, I understand how how, now I understand where the dads who
• 1:30:11
  provide for the real men out there, not the ones that abandon
• 1:30:15
  their children, like my ex-husband.
• 1:30:16
  But, you know, the real men out there that are out there
• 1:30:19
  providing for their families and 100% support, whatever their
• 1:30:23
  wife wants to do, whether it's start her own business or
• 1:30:26
  whatever, but those men, they make sure that's all possible,
• 1:30:29
  they hold it down, they do all Learners, man.
• 1:30:32
  Everybody out there. Yeah.
• 1:30:35
  Yeah, and there's a lot of great single moms that have been
• 1:30:42
  really great role models. For me.
• 1:30:43
  My older sister has been a great role model to me.
• 1:30:47
  She was a single mom way long ago before I was and was in was
• 1:30:51
  a you know kid chasing your dreams of going to college and
• 1:30:53
  do all sorts check because he's singing Yes Man.
• 1:30:56
  Like y'all I know how y'all do it.
• 1:30:59
  But yeah, I mean it sounds like it all comes back to what?
• 1:31:02
  What you remember. We're starting with.
• 1:31:04
  It's like, yeah. You invest in yourself.
• 1:31:06
  If you believe in yourself, you have to sit down and tell
• 1:31:09
  yourself like, I believe in you. Yeah, I'm giving you that your
• 1:31:13
  mental health is an investment in people don't realize that it
• 1:31:16
  is. It is an investment.
• 1:31:18
  Yeah, you go to the therapist or whatever, like you're taking
• 1:31:22
  those things that are going on in your head, right?
• 1:31:24
  And you're not and you're not, you know, talking to somebody
• 1:31:28
  else about them. You're talking about a to a
• 1:31:30
  third party that has no interest in your life whatsoever other
• 1:31:34
  than me. Making sure that you're trying
• 1:31:36
  to help you sort it all out. Yeah.
• 1:31:38
  And and, and that's in as huge. And a lot of people all they
• 1:31:42
  think about, you know, something there's a lot old stigma.
• 1:31:44
  You don't like weakness or whatever.
• 1:31:46
  This is, his night weaker to think that you can do it all by
• 1:31:49
  yourself. Exactly.
• 1:31:50
  Exactly. That's the easier thing to do.
• 1:31:52
  The easier thing to do is to sit there and be like, oh, I'll
• 1:31:56
  figure this out all myself, the harder thing to do is to
• 1:32:00
  delegate. It's like it's to use that that
• 1:32:04
  Village to raise Your to help raise your children to to, to
• 1:32:09
  reach out to a home again and be like, hey, I need you to help
• 1:32:11
  me, can you help postma's event for us?
• 1:32:13
  Can, you know, can we organize a committee?
• 1:32:16
  So, we can get these, you know, the Hispanic Heritage Month
• 1:32:20
  stuff off the ground, so that entire Committee of people can
• 1:32:23
  help do that, and not just me and all that stuff.
• 1:32:25
  It takes a lot. It, it's easier just to get be
• 1:32:28
  like, oh, I can handle it all myself.
• 1:32:30
  I'll just figure it out on myself.
• 1:32:32
  And in reality, you know, the the It goes great.
• 1:32:35
  You know, if you don't get 15 years later and get to
• 1:32:38
  celebrate. Yeah.
• 1:32:48
  Yeah. You're Superwoman.
• 1:32:50
  Literally. Thank you.
• 1:32:51
  Let's bring this back back to like, you know, the trenches of
• 1:32:54
  the hardships and everything like that.
• 1:32:55
  And tell us a little about how you hope to achieve your music,
• 1:32:58
  both professionally for your community.
• 1:33:01
  Oh wow. Well I think like Like with into
• 1:33:06
  the Stars, we go you know with that song that song out I was
• 1:33:11
  speaking on when I made that hook when I said pushing and
• 1:33:16
  grinding until we fall you know that's what all of.
• 1:33:21
  That's what that's what all Americans unfortunately that's
• 1:33:25
  what the with with inflation everything that's we're all
• 1:33:27
  dealing with, you know and and and just trying to stay positive
• 1:33:32
  about it and you know, realizing Being that, you know, even
• 1:33:37
  though we have all of these terrible things that happen to
• 1:33:42
  us, we break down, we break down those walls.
• 1:33:47
  We make all those things possible because you can only
• 1:33:49
  find you can only find that strength within you.
• 1:33:53
  And so that's what that song was about, was finding that inner
• 1:33:56
  strength within yourself, to be able to push through because our
• 1:34:00
  country just went through and the world just went through one
• 1:34:03
  of the hardest time period. Yeah, that it's been through in
• 1:34:07
  gosh, 100 years plus, you know, so there's a lot of a lot of
• 1:34:14
  recovery. That's happening.
• 1:34:15
  Both mentally physically, emotionally, and financially
• 1:34:19
  with everyone and so I, we just wanted to open up a like a whole
• 1:34:23
  other side of ourselves. A more human side of ourselves
• 1:34:26
  with this song, you know? And I'll scroll peanut was
• 1:34:30
  hilarious because when we brought when I sent him the
• 1:34:33
  instrumental to write to it, he was like Like Pachuca thought
• 1:34:36
  she was going to see me something gangster.
• 1:34:38
  What is this? And I was like dude you're your?
• 1:34:41
  Yeah your fans are going to see a whole other side of you.
• 1:34:44
  Yeah. We've been seen before we've
• 1:34:46
  been really pushing the you know the because at the beginning
• 1:34:50
  tickets wizard a lot of our music was gangster rap.
• 1:34:52
  It was I mean I always tell everybody if you want to get to
• 1:34:55
  know, big, see if you want you to know AJ.
• 1:34:58
  You listen to the music? Yeah, I've been saying that
• 1:35:00
  since day, one, a lot of our lot of our old content, I mean you
• 1:35:06
  won't find it unless you go like Reverb Nation, or something like
• 1:35:08
  that.com or you'll find it on there.
• 1:35:10
  But man, we had a talk about everything.
• 1:35:12
  I mean everything that we were going through bad and good, you
• 1:35:17
  know, but like more now we're just really trying to push push
• 1:35:20
  that the The Narrative to to express yourself.
• 1:35:23
  Yeah, you know I mean like this isn't always had to be Daria.
• 1:35:26
  That's a great thing about music.
• 1:35:27
  Yeah. You know, as you're able to
• 1:35:29
  Port, let all that out, you know, I'm eating use metaphors
• 1:35:31
  to get through that. Exactly.
• 1:35:33
  And again, like, I just want to like, say, thank you guys for
• 1:35:37
  sharing that vulnerability because it's so hard, and, and
• 1:35:41
  thank you for, you know, putting yourselves out there for
• 1:35:45
  creating songs that are about hardships like that.
• 1:35:48
  And really also, you can hear at any moment in time, right?
• 1:35:52
  When you're in your Downs, when you're in your ups and it's a
• 1:35:55
  good reminder of that, I've just removed.
• 1:35:57
  Finding yourself be there for yourself, be vulnerable.
• 1:36:01
  Don't be afraid to open up, continue to push on forward and
• 1:36:05
  getting through that. Yeah, exactly, man.
• 1:36:07
  It's only up from here, you know, the trains been steady
• 1:36:13
  Trucking along, you know, I mean, so yeah, into the stories,
• 1:36:16
  we go, it's such a great video. Great song, great content for
• 1:36:19
  those who speak Spanish and those, you know, I mean, who can
• 1:36:22
  understand it. I know a lot of people really
• 1:36:25
  appreciated that song, you know, a lot of hint there.
• 1:36:28
  Raza. I've hid himself from all over
• 1:36:30
  the state. All over all over about about
• 1:36:32
  that song because we like again we like to mix it up an English
• 1:36:35
  Spanish, you should we get somebody that can speak another
• 1:36:38
  language to know like that work with everybody man.
• 1:36:42
  Most definitely, we have a new video called The Good Life
• 1:36:44
  coming out some way to chill. Yeah, cuz I know I saw that.
• 1:36:48
  I was about to mention that those are some of your guys's
• 1:36:50
  up-and-coming works, right? Yeah, we wanted also talk about
• 1:36:54
  other up-and-coming works to that.
• 1:36:57
  We have Talked about yet. Yes.
• 1:36:59
  So I spy with my little eye that I heard you guys are trying to
• 1:37:03
  do a podcast. Yes, we are what?
• 1:37:09
  Yes, please tell us about your upcoming project.
• 1:37:11
  Well, right now, A man, we're in the early stages of getting our
• 1:37:14
  podcast jumping off. You know we got great
• 1:37:17
  influencers like you guys here in our local area, that's right.
• 1:37:22
  Got to give you guys your flowers like oh she found an old
• 1:37:24
  school ReverbNation. Oh, there it is.
• 1:37:28
  Dang, that. That's all.
• 1:37:30
  That's all our tracks. I said, man, if you click on the
• 1:37:34
  all music right there that yeah, that's the proof in the pudding,
• 1:37:38
  right there, those are. Those are all, that's all,
• 1:37:41
  that's all good stuff. Right there Then.
• 1:37:43
  Spdf fucked a speedy. Yes, that song we did that song.
• 1:37:48
  Yeah, we have a whole catalog man.
• 1:37:51
  It's just, you know, again as a MySpace days in the early days
• 1:37:53
  were like, people weren't buying Beats.
• 1:37:55
  Yeah, yeah. I'm saying people the game.
• 1:37:57
  It just. Isn't like that.
• 1:37:58
  I mean the game's evolved over the last 10 to 12 years I mean
• 1:38:03
  in Leaps and Bounds man. So you know what I mean?
• 1:38:06
  So now like again we're paying for all our beats.
• 1:38:09
  All our shit that you see now videos and and what we are
• 1:38:13
  putting on our YouTube page and Spotify and all that stuff, man.
• 1:38:16
  Everything's from scratch. Yeah.
• 1:38:17
  Well we didn't know, I wish we would have known better earlier
• 1:38:22
  you know but but now the ball is rolling.
• 1:38:24
  We got because of the footwork in the networking.
• 1:38:26
  We got We've got photographers. We got Studios before.
• 1:38:30
  We didn't. We just had our closet and an
• 1:38:33
  old-ass box computer. Yeah.
• 1:38:34
  You know, me. So you just like, you don't
• 1:38:36
  freaking Cuomo and it will say it, it's dope.
• 1:38:38
  It's still out there like that laptops and stuff, but like, but
• 1:38:42
  like to go from from your mom's basement.
• 1:38:44
  Like I said, in that song into the surgery, go like, you know,
• 1:38:48
  just come a long way from wrapping in my mom's basement.
• 1:38:50
  Yeah. You know what I mean?
• 1:38:51
  You know, I mean Studios, I'm seeing Professional Engineers in
• 1:38:53
  California all over. Oh yeah.
• 1:38:56
  And it's just like, how the I get here.
• 1:38:58
  Yeah you know I mean but yeah the podcast man the house of
• 1:39:02
  Science and podcast that is the name of it.
• 1:39:04
  Yeah. And the idea kind of formed from
• 1:39:08
  a mom and pop shop in Salina you be able to go in there by your
• 1:39:12
  CDs order CDs in their records, you go by your stereos, you by
• 1:39:16
  your subs, your belly button ring.
• 1:39:18
  Yeah you know you know you're smoking, you're sick, single
• 1:39:20
  cigarette stuff like that. Maybe it was called the house of
• 1:39:23
  Sight and Sound. Yeah, and I remember when I
• 1:39:25
  strolled in there, I had got my first gonna wrap They actually
• 1:39:28
  had area since you've gone. All right, right, the man
• 1:39:33
  labeled you gonna read? You're like God told me that
• 1:39:35
  this part right here is for me. That's what I'm saying.
• 1:39:38
  That the stories wild, right? And I remember my first CD was a
• 1:39:43
  mr. Criminal CD.
• 1:39:44
  Okay. And then we'll look what
• 1:39:45
  happened. What happened?
• 1:39:46
  Like? Yeah, I want to say about eight
• 1:39:48
  seven, eight years later. Yeah, I was buying DVDs.
• 1:39:51
  Watch, it was creasing up. My Davis's cleaning, my Cortez
• 1:39:55
  shoes is ironing my bandana out to the These guys.
• 1:39:58
  Yeah, go and buy the DVDs and CDs at the house assigned sound.
• 1:40:02
  Yeah. So it would end.
• 1:40:03
  So they closed that down the police, shut it down.
• 1:40:05
  But we everybody in the city had great memories from that place.
• 1:40:08
  Yeah, you know what I mean? And like I would see local
• 1:40:10
  talent up there. That's how I was like man.
• 1:40:12
  We got famous rappers here. Yeah.
• 1:40:14
  You know, like the jackster out of Wichita, I mean there was a
• 1:40:17
  lot of older guys but doing it, you know, so then all those
• 1:40:20
  seeds were planted. Then yeah, so the how science
• 1:40:22
  sound podcast. The idea behind it is to bring
• 1:40:26
  everybody together to talk about our common Schmidt's again, like
• 1:40:29
  what you guys are giving people a platform to be heard because
• 1:40:33
  you know, everyone's running wild right now the on the west
• 1:40:35
  coast with all these podcasts. Oh yeah, I mean every it's just
• 1:40:38
  blowing up right now it's just like you got your leading the
• 1:40:41
  charge. There's other people leading the
• 1:40:42
  charge right now, you know? I mean, it's like we have to get
• 1:40:44
  our foot in here for our people for for the people.
• 1:40:47
  I know who have been pushing for cheap for the Chicano movement.
• 1:40:50
  Yeah. And there's, there's just so
• 1:40:52
  much are finally here in the Midwest.
• 1:40:54
  That is untapped untapped it's unbelievable.
• 1:40:57
  The R&B artists that we have been able to work with over each
• 1:41:00
  other some BJ. Yes, shots out the bomb.
• 1:41:02
  I love art. I love art.
• 1:41:05
  I got a new record coming out. So much baby, baby J.
• 1:41:08
  Yeah, that's next on the list. It just just so many great
• 1:41:15
  people. I mean, there was even a
• 1:41:18
  musician. I cannot remember her name, but
• 1:41:20
  I had performed over at Rock Island and she was like, I think
• 1:41:26
  it was a new music Tuesday, as or something like That had been
• 1:41:28
  a in and this chick was amazing. Amazing.
• 1:41:34
  But the biggest thing that people were critiquing on,
• 1:41:36
  right? Like when the when the panel was
• 1:41:39
  talking it was about original instrumentals and your stage
• 1:41:45
  presence and all that stuff. And then I go just goes in with
• 1:41:48
  the confidence that you build in yourself, right?
• 1:41:51
  And I feel like the house of Science and podcast is going to
• 1:41:54
  be great because it also helps build the confidence of the
• 1:41:56
  local musician. Ins who are really?
• 1:42:01
  They are amazing and they know it but they also have not been
• 1:42:06
  out there like that and so it's kinda scary thing and so it kind
• 1:42:10
  of is a great you know way to introduce them into the world of
• 1:42:14
  entertainment. So way of not so scary back.
• 1:42:17
  Yeah I mean that that's how I'm seeing it.
• 1:42:20
  Yeah. I mean because again I think
• 1:42:25
  with the music and everything I just see As is giving when you
• 1:42:30
  give, you know, me, you can receive.
• 1:42:32
  Yeah. You know, I mean, so with the
• 1:42:33
  podcast is just again it's just giving people a chance to be
• 1:42:37
  heard their music, their testimonies, because again, I
• 1:42:40
  have my own testimony. Yeah, I mean, and I bet if we
• 1:42:43
  sit down again, we're gonna hear a lot even more of that.
• 1:42:46
  Yeah, even from you guys, you know me, I like to have you guys
• 1:42:49
  on it once. Every year.
• 1:42:52
  I would love it. You know, you guys, No one
• 1:43:03
  really. Let me tell you.
• 1:43:35
  That is a superpower that is it's a, it's a superpower.
• 1:43:40
  Oh yep. So we do always we always do
• 1:43:43
  lightning round at the end. I don't know if you guys heard
• 1:43:45
  it and smokes is episode. Okay, so we do, we do lightning
• 1:43:49
  round. So basically we told you a
• 1:43:51
  question and you just blurt out what you think.
• 1:43:54
  Okay. All right guys.
• 1:43:55
  Get ready. Okay.
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  So this This is one. If you could have any
• 1:43:59
  superpower, what would it be? Flying mind if I had a
• 1:44:06
  superpower. Yeah, I say I have one, I say
• 1:44:10
  it's being an empath that right there is a superpower in itself
• 1:44:16
  because I put a lot of hard, you know, you gotta love heart, no
• 1:44:24
  matter what battle of Hardman and I just give people the
• 1:44:27
  benefit of the doubt even if you hurt me.
• 1:44:29
  Yeah, I mean, especially if I love you, if I got nothing, if I
• 1:44:31
  got genuine love for you, You know what I mean?
• 1:44:34
  Like so I think that's my superpower.
• 1:44:36
  Yeah, I have the can harness and now I realize it more now yeah,
• 1:44:40
  over these past nine months that like because you know always
• 1:44:43
  again I always had that some sort of a not to get long story
• 1:44:46
  and thing but you know I just I don't know, I just feel like I
• 1:44:50
  don't say judge, I don't know what it is man.
• 1:44:52
  I can't really put my finger on it but since I just I think I
• 1:44:56
  realize now like it's a really shed that ego.
• 1:44:59
  Yeah you go this man and just you know you know saying And
• 1:45:03
  yeah, so yeah, I think yeah, the only reason why I would I wish I
• 1:45:09
  could fly is because the cost of air flights.
• 1:45:13
  Oh, hell yeah. I've been traveling a lot more.
• 1:45:18
  And, you know, even just even just to commuting all over the
• 1:45:21
  place. Oh yeah, my business.
• 1:45:23
  I wish I could. I say right now for me it's the
• 1:45:58
  good life, good life and you guys so much fun.
• 1:46:01
  I say yeah, it's it's just a good.
• 1:46:03
  I like collaborating with people on stage, it shows.
• 1:46:05
  Again, it shows that Unity shows that on the on the, on the
• 1:46:08
  Greeley and the greatly. Yeah, okay, look at her.
• 1:46:11
  Yeah man, we had a great time up there man.
• 1:46:13
  But I'd say the good life here and that's right now as were
• 1:46:16
  actively on Ruby on the road next weekend.
• 1:46:20
  So yeah be the good life for me that's that's my number one
• 1:46:23
  right now. I'd say Pachuca and action.
• 1:46:25
  It is my favorite and in all and the best best part about Pachuca
• 1:46:30
  and action is, you can only hear it live.
• 1:46:32
  Yeah. I do not have it released on all
• 1:46:36
  platforms. Yeah.
• 1:46:37
  I do not have it on any other like SoundCloud, anything like
• 1:46:40
  that? No.
• 1:46:40
  Yeah, it will be released on all platforms when we're done with
• 1:46:44
  our album. Yeah.
• 1:46:45
  But as of right now, it that, that's, that's my favorite.
• 1:46:49
  That's my favorite sauces. South City for cooking up that
• 1:46:52
  instrumental for me with electric guitar.
• 1:46:54
  Yeah. It's Amazing it.
• 1:46:56
  Inspires it inspires anybody who listens to it.
• 1:47:00
  It's just it is it is my call to action for fuck.
• 1:47:06
  Yeah. For all Pachuca, all Patrick has
• 1:47:09
  and pachucos out there to step up and to lead, by example, and
• 1:47:15
  that's what the whole gosh darn song is about, and it's amazing.
• 1:47:19
  And so yeah, that is my favorite song of all time to 11, I love
• 1:47:22
  it. Who is your favorite?
• 1:47:25
  A well time, my favorite one. You can say but let me say this
• 1:47:31
  following the script. Let's go favorite.
• 1:47:34
  Favorite rap breaking the rules. Yeah, okay.
• 1:47:42
  Greatest rapper of all time. Who's your favorite favorite
• 1:47:45
  rapper? Yeah.
• 1:47:47
  Yeah. I think like that's a different
• 1:47:48
  question to in a way, you know, you know.
• 1:47:50
  I'm not a hard. Yeah, I don't know, man, because
• 1:47:53
  honestly like my music and I know it's a lightning round,
• 1:47:56
  right? So, um, and um, What's a Tupac?
• 1:48:04
  Okay. Okay smokes misdemeanor.
• 1:48:10
  Okay. Yes.
• 1:48:12
  Yeah Elliot, you know and she amaze me the other day because
• 1:48:14
  she is Doctor. Yeah, she's in doctor.
• 1:48:18
  She's amazing. She's amazing.
• 1:48:20
  I do. Yeah, she's making her come back
• 1:48:28
  as far as music goes. She is just as amazing as she
• 1:48:31
  was when I was growing on man. Ask him to be and that's what
• 1:48:35
  and that's what I hope and that's what I aspire to honestly
• 1:48:38
  is to not skip a beat just like Missy Elliott.
• 1:49:03
  What's a conspiracy theory that you believe is real aliens
• 1:49:08
  aliens? Okay, I'll let it pass another
• 1:49:11
  one conspiracy theory that I believe is real.
• 1:49:18
  Zombie apocalypse. Hmm.
• 1:49:20
  Because the government actually has a plan for that actually.
• 1:49:26
  Well I'm here and it's my worst fear.
• 1:49:29
  I'm it's my worst fear in life. Yeah.
• 1:49:34
  Speaking of millions you hear about the UFO and La, I'm not
• 1:49:39
  Las Vegas. It's a lightning round.
• 1:49:42
  Sorry. Sorry.
• 1:49:49
  Anyone for a day? Who would it be?
• 1:49:51
  And why? And I got to meet her in person.
• 1:50:00
  Yeah, shoutouts with rosewater. Yeah, I would be her for a day
• 1:50:04
  because she is, she is the epitome of what a person who
• 1:50:12
  truly loves all humanity is who doesn't see color and she
• 1:50:19
  doesn't, she does not mind speaking, her mind and the most,
• 1:50:23
  uh, you know, most elegant. David.
• 1:50:26
  But firm way possible. And that's how she's been able
• 1:50:29
  to you know, March alongside Cesar Chavez and continue to
• 1:50:34
  carry on his legacy and continue to scare the crap out of people,
• 1:50:39
  a 90-plus years old. Let's go, that's who I am.
• 1:50:42
  That's true. Look at Her Go.
• 1:50:46
  Yeah, that's my girl right there.
• 1:50:51
  What was the question again? Man, Westlife you want to if you
• 1:50:55
  could switch lives with anyone for a day, who would it be?
• 1:50:58
  And why if I could switch lies with anybody for a day?
• 1:51:01
  King Wu ji, okay? Shouts out to the home game.
• 1:51:04
  A little G. They just be dope to be him one
• 1:51:07
  day nose and just, just for a day.
• 1:51:11
  True, that's true. What is your most embarrassing
• 1:51:14
  hairstyle? Oh well, my boss most
• 1:51:18
  embarrassing hairstyle taking a back to the to the bulk up with
• 1:51:22
  the part down the middle back to the 90s is like a teenager, you
• 1:51:31
  know, not a teenager. No.
• 1:51:32
  Oh okay. As a younger kid for sure.
• 1:51:34
  But you know, for 15 years I was bald, you know I'm saying?
• 1:51:37
  Straight straight that long, you know, so you know that's coming
• 1:51:40
  back, you know. It totally is.
• 1:51:46
  Oh my God. Yeah, that's right.
• 1:51:47
  There in it. That kid.
• 1:51:52
  That's a haircut I had grazed but you, okay.
• 1:51:55
  What's your most embarrassing hairstyle?
• 1:51:57
  Oh, gosh. That those straight bangs that,
• 1:52:01
  my mom made me. Remember those along.
• 1:52:04
  Things are cut. That was all the ball cut.
• 1:52:07
  It was pretty like straight beans and then like the Doric
• 1:52:10
  up. Yeah, everybody had the door.
• 1:52:16
  The door here cut hair. So although I still would wear
• 1:52:24
  that proudly. What's your most memorable fan
• 1:52:26
  story? Memorable fan story.
• 1:52:32
  Oh man. Memorable fan story.
• 1:52:40
  It could be you today's aren't memorable.
• 1:52:44
  That's a pretty memorable moments
• 1:52:57
  when I walked into that first day, you know, getting to know
• 1:53:02
  the job, I seen a couple people wearing our brand are sick and
• 1:53:07
  twisted Brands, we have two hats t-shirts, stuff like that.
• 1:53:11
  Yeah, this chick couple cheerleaders, like two or three
• 1:53:13
  of them, and that had different colors tickets, which is shirt.
• 1:53:15
  So, my did y'all like plan that I told her?
• 1:53:19
  Hey, that's my, that's my brain right there.
• 1:53:21
  Like, where did you get it? Yeah, and she said, there was
• 1:53:23
  that a show or something like that on my show.
• 1:53:26
  She get those from. Yeah, you know.
• 1:53:27
  But yeah. I was cool to see him and that,
• 1:53:29
  that was recent. Yeah, there was reason for me.
• 1:53:31
  So I'm going with recent, because what happens, what
• 1:53:33
  happens? What happened recently?
• 1:53:36
  Yeah, I guess we're not. You can't use it.
• 1:53:39
  I want to say the most. Well, The most memorable story
• 1:53:42
  that I have is when we went to Bubba, Sparxxx concert and
• 1:53:46
  Salina. But be smart booty, booty,
• 1:53:49
  booty, booty, rockin everywhere. Now we performed last year with
• 1:53:56
  Bubba Sparxxx show is Salina, you know, shout out.
• 1:54:00
  So we could ways you know that really is a spirit spearheaded
• 1:54:03
  that whole promo and all that for for that event.
• 1:54:07
  And there was a mom and a daughter there.
• 1:54:10
  Have the daughter was she was a teen aged about 15 years old.
• 1:54:15
  You know, she wanted a picture with me afterwards.
• 1:54:18
  She wanted an autograph and everything and I was telling
• 1:54:21
  her, you know, about how I grew up right there in that City.
• 1:54:25
  Yeah. And I understand how hard it is
• 1:54:27
  to go up there and then explain to her like my life as a single
• 1:54:31
  mom with those kids and then her and then her mom comes up and it
• 1:54:34
  was just amazing how I got, you know, two new fans and I we took
• 1:54:38
  I got some pictures of them. I still have them on my Phone.
• 1:54:41
  Because they'll because that was so important to me because I
• 1:54:45
  realized that Not only was I inspiring her mom to keep doing
• 1:54:50
  the best that she can and know that what she's doing is making
• 1:54:54
  a difference with her child. Yeah, but to also, you know,
• 1:54:59
  empowered that little girl that you can come from the city that
• 1:55:02
  you live in right now and you can do what I'm doing to write
• 1:55:07
  wanted to anything that you put your mind to is.
• 1:55:10
  Possible. And even if you see here and
• 1:55:12
  think, oh, I don't have the money best believe.
• 1:55:14
  Honey, there's free money out there.
• 1:55:16
  Yep. All you got to do is contact the
• 1:55:17
  right people and those people fans.
• 1:55:19
  Yeah, and there's that old sergeant feet pigs feet, too.
• 1:55:29
  Dirty to the last question. Okay, let's go.
• 1:55:37
  We heard a little bit about both of your stories.
• 1:55:39
  You shouldn't even talk. The damn, Mike does.
• 1:55:41
  He's gonna be so mad at me? Anyways, we listened to your
• 1:55:44
  story, your passions, your interest and everything.
• 1:55:47
  Tell us in our little tell us and our listeners.
• 1:55:51
  How can we support sick and twisted music group?
• 1:55:55
  Oh, how well sick and twisted is on all platforms, of course, you
• 1:55:59
  know, Spotify, iTunes, Google play Amazon music, all that good
• 1:56:04
  stuff. Of course, are you our YouTube
• 1:56:07
  channel is is definitely growing every day.
• 1:56:10
  The day. So you can you tune in to the
• 1:56:14
  podcast on our YouTube channel and as well as our videos plus
• 1:56:20
  our behind-the-scenes videos that big she puts together to
• 1:56:24
  kind of show people what a day in the life of, you know,
• 1:56:27
  prepping for a show with sick and twisted is all about and
• 1:56:29
  things like that. Of course, anything that you
• 1:56:33
  support, when it comes to sick and twisted whether or not it's
• 1:56:36
  our music or our merchandise, buying tickets shows or anything
• 1:56:40
  like At that temperature, the same repos?
• 1:56:42
  Yeah, ten percent of all proceeds.
• 1:56:44
  Go to the Kansas immigration Relief Fund.
• 1:56:47
  Yes. That we started eight years ago
• 1:56:50
  to help pay for families to get their documentation legally.
• 1:56:56
  I love that. Well, guys, I just want to let
• 1:56:59
  you know. I appreciate everything.
• 1:57:01
  But, you know, she did you guys. Yeah.
• 1:57:03
  We got our freestyle in this. Oh yeah, you guys gotta beat DJ
• 1:57:09
  Lee. What we got?
• 1:57:11
  I need a shot after this and we got a bottle.
• 1:57:15
  Turn it up a little bit. He put the glasses on my check
• 1:57:26
  one two. Oh I check my check.
• 1:57:33
  Yeah so humble Big C representing the big bad sick
• 1:57:37
  and twisted watch. Ah ah.
• 1:57:40
  Yeah. You know, we're back at it like
• 1:57:42
  a crack at it. You can find me in the spot
• 1:57:44
  shit. I'm back at it.
• 1:57:46
  It's it gets twisted homey. And we wasting our time, we
• 1:57:48
  gotta let them all know. Should we ride on time with the
• 1:57:51
  movement? You know, we got to get to it.
• 1:57:54
  A shout out to my homie, shoot you in the Buick.
• 1:57:57
  He said he cruising who wants to lose it.
• 1:57:59
  I'll change my always, hold me. I'm cool with it.
• 1:58:02
  Let me post up in the alleyway, you take it back to 1990 tray.
• 1:58:07
  Nah, they don't want to see it happen.
• 1:58:09
  Big ceeze. Jesus way, some steak clapping
• 1:58:12
  back with the music at that they want to come away.
• 1:58:15
  Shit, I'm about to bust back with some difficult crime to
• 1:58:18
  knowledge up top. I'm a Pastor Mike, I'm over here
• 1:58:23
  sitting and thinking about my life over here, sitting with the
• 1:58:26
  homies talking about it, we got this, we're going on all day.
• 1:58:30
  Patrick has over here, flowing all day because I gotta do it
• 1:58:33
  for my Raza. I gotta put it down.
• 1:58:36
  For everybody has a chance, are you already know the Pachuca is?
• 1:58:39
  Got the flow. We are Here putting it down.
• 1:58:41
  Ready to go? Toe-to-toe, 8, I'll get you.
• 1:58:44
  What the throat because I already know how it flows on my
• 1:58:48
  kids know, Mama strong and I'm gonna keep putting it on.
• 1:58:51
  Be here we go. Here's here's to you.
• 1:58:55
  Oh, here's to you. Yeah, here's to you a ticket
• 1:59:01
  Twisted. All met a a bus to Freestyle.
• 1:59:04
  I know you feel it, right. BC is in the building.
• 1:59:07
  I'm feeling. All right, I'm hella hella blaze
• 1:59:10
  in the By going to the Moon is never coming back.
• 1:59:13
  It's a good twisting and you know, that's a fact.
• 1:59:15
  Gotta represent the brand on the map, it's like that.
• 1:59:18
  You know, the K-State with those cats.
• 1:59:20
  Don't play another freestyle this day, you know, the first
• 1:59:25
  lady. But we the first one to correct.
• 1:59:28
  You already know because I ate. Lots of always come first
• 1:59:31
  motherfucker, said over here, trip over their laces because
• 1:59:35
  they know they loose and they know they can't keep tripping
• 1:59:38
  over this bitch over here because I Don't give a fuck and
• 1:59:41
  everybody knows that. We know what's up, baby.
• 1:59:44
  It was told you. Here's to you.
• 1:59:59
  Goddamn, shout out to you guys. Let's love him.
• 2:00:03
  Spit hey y'all gave me money like a goose bumps.
• 2:00:11
  Imagine doing that for hours. I wrapped.
• 2:00:13
  It was just so it'd be so much fun.