Latest / 20-Minute Health Talk / 20MHT BONUS w/ Sandra Lindsay: What women need to know about heart disease
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- 0:00Rob Hoell: Hello and welcome to 20-Minute Health Talk.
- 0:03Today we are launching a new series hosted by Sandra Lindsay.
- 0:11This bonus
- 0:12episode of 20-Minute Health Talk will continue the conversation with fresh
- 0:16voices and perspectives.
- 0:17This is a new and exciting chapter for this podcast.
- 0:20As we welcome Sandra Lindsay to our team, the Frontline nurse and
- 0:24Presidential medal of freedom
- 0:25recipient spent 29 years in nursing most recently, serving, as
- 0:29director of Critical Care Nursing at a Long Island Jewish Medical
- 0:32Center in New Hyde Park.
- 0:34Like so many nurses, she worked tirelessly during the pandemic, then
- 0:38Sandra volunteered to become the first American vaccinated with the
- 0:41Pfizer and BioNTech covid-19 vaccine on December 14 2020.
- 0:46She currently serves as vice president of public health advocacy for
- 0:50northwell health and joins us now. Sandra first of all, welcome to the
- 0:55podcast.
- 0:56Sandra Lindsay: Thanks, Rob for that
- 0:57warm welcome.
- 0:58It's exciting to start this next chapter of my career with you and the
- 1:02team and I'm so excited to be a part of this podcast.
- 1:05Rob: We've known each other for years before Covid outbreak and it's just
- 1:10so great to work
- 1:11with you,
- 1:11it's been great working with you in the past,
- 1:12and I just can't wait to see what you bring to the podcast.
- 1:15Sandra: That's right, you came over to Long Island.
- 1:18Jewish Medical Center after the first wave and helped us to really,
- 1:24you know, show the power of team nursing as we could not have gotten
- 1:28through that first wave without a team nursing approach.
- 1:33Rob: And it was so I was so proud to be in the room when you got that first
- 1:35shot seen around the world and really, you know, helped us in our
- 1:39fight against Covid and
- 1:41kind of hopefully bring an end to it.
- 1:50Sandra: Thanks Rob picking up on your conversation last week.
- 1:54You spoke with a panel of experts about how to pick a cardiologist or
- 1:59cardiac surgeon.
- 2:04Rob: What is the age that people start
- 2:06seeing these types of problems and when should people start thinking
- 2:09about these types of things, Dr.
- 2:11Singh?
- 2:12Dr. Singh: You know, I've seen patients, some sure you guys have seen patients in
- 2:15their late 20s that present with heart attacks, and that are very,
- 2:18very sick but in general above the age of 35, if you have risk
- 2:22factors, that's when cardiovascular disease really becomes the number
- 2:26one killer of men and women.
- 2:32Sandra: One of the considerations that really stuck out to me was the role
- 2:36gender plays when picking a cardiologist.
- 2:40This is such an important topic. For decades,
- 2:43the working assumption has been that, aside from conditions specific
- 2:47to women, men's and women's bodies show symptoms and react to
- 2:53treatment in the same way.
- 2:55We now know that is simply not true, particularly
- 3:00when it comes to heart disease. I met up with Dr.
- 3:04Jean Cacciabaudo, medical director at Huntington Hospital, and a
- 3:09renowned cardiologist, to ask her, what are the differences between men
- 3:14and women as it relates to heart disease?
- 3:18What our health systems doing to address disparities in care.
- 3:23And what women seek in a cardiologist should know
- 3:33All right.
- 3:34Hello Dr.
- 3:35Cacciabaudo, it's such a pleasure being here with you today at
- 3:38Huntington Hospital.
- 3:40I'm so excited to be speaking with you about women's heart health and
- 3:45how to choose a cardiologist.
- 3:48Dr. Cacciabaudo: Thank you so much for inviting me to spend some time with you.
- 3:52Sandra: Despite increase in awareness over the past decades, only about half
- 3:58of women
- 4:00recognize
- 4:00that heart disease is their number one killer. Another survey showed
- 4:06that only one in five African-American woman believe that they are at
- 4:11high risk of heart disease.
- 4:15Do you think that women still see cardiac disease as a man's disease?
- 4:21Dr. Cacciabaudo: I do and I think the medical community, to a certain degree,
- 4:26feels the same way. The Framingham heart study, which was started and
- 4:33the first round of data came out in the 1960s, really did make it
- 4:40about a man's problem.
- 4:43The early studies that are a precursor to what we just mentioned, by
- 4:46the CDC, one in five women,
- 4:51all women didn't even recognize that heart disease was a health threat
- 4:56and so organizations, like the American Heart Association started, the
- 5:01Go Red For Women movement and I thank you for wearing red to honor
- 5:06that. That was a 20-year journey to today,
- 5:12we're finally seeing women recognize their risk and actually showing
- 5:18the value of preventive strategies.
- 5:21Sandra: And this is a great segue into my next question.
- 5:25So Dr. C,
- 5:25tell me about the difference between males and females as it relates
- 5:31to heart disease.
- 5:33Dr. Cacciabaudo: So it starts with the way heart attacks happen and that starts with
- 5:38plaque build-up which actually starts building up when you're in your
- 5:41teens and then over time depending on your risk factors and your diet
- 5:47and cholesterol and exercise, the plaque
- 5:51can become increased and cause blockages men's blockages tend to
- 6:00load and rupture open.
- 6:01We call that plaque rupture. Women's tend to erode where the top of
- 6:08the plaque just starts wearing away.
- 6:11It does probably account for the symptom differences as well.
- 6:16So the classic symptoms of heart disease is chest pain, like pressure
- 6:21on your chest, arm pain,
- 6:24usually we say going down your left arm up into your jaw, sometimes
- 6:28into your back.
- 6:30So these are the classic symptoms, men typically have them and
- 6:34honestly, most women do too, but then there are the atypical symptoms
- 6:38which are more subtle.
- 6:40It is shortness of breath or feeling easily, tired, heartburn or even
- 6:47headaches.
- 6:47I always tell my patients that despite your, you know, classic
- 6:53symptoms or the more atypical symptoms usually associated with that
- 6:58is an inner voice
- 7:00inside your body.
- 7:01That's saying you've never had this before.
- 7:04Like this is, this is different than anything you've ever had.
- 7:08You know, you should go get it checked out and you have to listen to
- 7:12that voice.
- 7:13The next question, then is who you going to call and that's your
- 7:17trusted partner in health and hopefully everyone has one.
- 7:22Sandra: So, where should women look for a cardiologist, and should the gender
- 7:27of the practitioner play a role in their decision?
- 7:29That is, I'm going to start with the second question,
- 7:34because it's really timely.
- 7:36So, the American College of Cardiology just this past, March published
- 7:42an article where they looked at the outcomes.
- 7:45So how well blood pressure's controlled? How well cholesterol levels are
- 7:51lowered?
- 7:52How less frequently symptoms, go on to be a heart attack?
- 7:57So women, when they take
- 8:00women cardiologists, taking care of women patients, do a better job
- 8:06than men, taking care of women.
- 8:08But to go to the first part of that question, you know, where to look
- 8:12here at North Well,
- 8:13we have this great service, it's called the North Well
- 8:17Find a Doc and you can Google a name or a Google a ZIP code, or a
- 8:24city and then say specialty and you can find your
- 8:29Northwell Health Physician partner doctors who all have star ratings based
- 8:34on the thoughts and opinions of patients, like real patients
- 8:40and your comments are there.
- 8:42And then even our other Physicians that are volunteers here in the
- 8:48health system are on that site, too.
- 8:50So it's a great resource to help you pick your your partner because
- 8:56that's really what it is.
- 8:58Sandra: Absolutely.
- 9:00So, I'd like to follow up with another question.
- 9:03African-American women are disproportionately affected by heart
- 9:07disease, leading the debt rate regardless of age, what are some
- 9:12suggestions for addressing equity in care?
- 9:17Dr. Cacciabaudo: So, it starts with knowing that statistic, which really is a call to
- 9:23action.
- 9:24And so it is, I think for women,
- 9:30us, as, you know, kind of the women in the know, to get out and
- 9:37spread the word, Empower with education and knowledge, and go into
- 9:45spaces, which may be a little, you know, a-typical like
- 9:52partnering with church groups. So finding, you know, black women
- 9:57African-American women,
- 10:00where they're most comfortable as opposed to you know the more traditional
- 10:06spaces like a lecture hall or a luncheon.
- 10:09It is about knowledge and empowering with the education.
- 10:15Sandra: So it's going where they go to keep them in the know.
- 10:18Dr. Cacciabaudo: Exactly.
- 10:20Given the differences Dr. C, in men and women, what can Health
- 10:25Systems do to help tailor treatment for women?
- 10:31So this really is the Nexus of the Katz Institute for Women's
- 10:37Health because it's about education and empowering women, but it's
- 10:44also about understanding the sex differences.
- 10:47So, you know, women have two X chromosomes men, have an X and a Y
- 10:52chromosome, and that results in cells that are different.
- 10:57And so, how do we understand those differences?
- 11:00How do we modulate, those differences?
- 11:03How do we impact with different medications?
- 11:08And, and so, I feel as a health system, Northwell Health has taken
- 11:13this responsibility
- 11:15seriously. We have the Katz Institute, we have Physicians who are
- 11:21credentialed to be members, you know?
- 11:24There's a process to say you're a Katz Physician, you have to apply,
- 11:29you have to
- 11:29be vetted by a committee, and you have to be committed to research,
- 11:37education, empowerment for Women's Health.
- 11:41So I think Northwell's on the right path.
- 11:45Not only are we on the right path.
- 11:47I think we're leading the path.
- 11:49We're showing other organizations how to walk the talk.
- 11:56And, you know, I think many
- 12:00organizations
- 12:00look to us.
- 12:02Sandra: Awesome Dr. C
- 12:04it's been a pleasure speaking with you today and I have to say the
- 12:08field of Cardiology is really lucky to have someone like you to you
- 12:12know, influence young ladies and create this social contagion that we
- 12:17need to get more women into the stem fields and into research, really
- 12:22a pleasure speaking to you today.
- 12:24Dr. Cacciabaudo: Thank you so much.
- 12:25I am equally honored to be here.
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