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Benzino Admits the Eminem Diss Cost Him a Million Dollar Deal · The Baller Alert Show

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  Speaker 1: What's up. It's Benzino and coming up next, I'm on
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  Speaker 1: baller alert.
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  Speaker 2: Balling how does the five mics work?
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  Speaker 1: So there's.
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  Speaker 3: A journalistic side, and there's the business side, advertising business,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, button ups and stuff, and
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  Speaker 3: then over here's wold and shit weed.
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  Speaker 1: Smoke and you know what I'm saying, music everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: We had some great talented people man that worked in
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  Speaker 3: the Source, art directors and photographers, journalists, so they would
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  Speaker 3: all of course, we would get the music from the
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  Speaker 3: labels first, and sometimes from the artists first before.
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  Speaker 1: The label sometime. Yeah, that was dope.
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  Speaker 3: That was the best part of it for me, is
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  Speaker 3: that we got to listen to the music before it
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  Speaker 3: even came out, you know what I'm saying. And there'd
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  Speaker 3: be a room in the back of the conference room
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  Speaker 3: and they all get together, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: And I've never been in there but maybe twice my
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  Speaker 3: whole eighteen years at the Source. I've never been in
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  Speaker 3: the room with everybody. And you got understand, it's a
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  Speaker 3: diverse group of.
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  Speaker 2: People, almost like the Grammy selection a little bit absolutely
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  Speaker 2: not okay, get it together.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely see.
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  Speaker 3: You gotta understand we was the anti gram. When I'll
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  Speaker 3: get to the social wards because that's what the source
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  Speaker 3: warts was. But the when it comes to the five mics,
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  Speaker 3: you have a diverse group of people where people are
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  Speaker 3: from all over the place.
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  Speaker 4: Push up in the robbery with a Robbert and you
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  Speaker 4: know me, t As you crushed you you like me?
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  Speaker 2: Broadcast a live from the Danny Nagel Law Firm Studios.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Ball Alert Show. I go by the
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  Speaker 2: name Ferrariy Sims.
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  Speaker 5: I'll go by the name you know b Team.
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  Speaker 3: This is her first time on the show, right, Wow, man,
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  Speaker 3: you gout have called some trouble Bron.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really excited to be.
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  Speaker 2: You don't know this, Maybe you do, Maybe I can't remember.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember, I worked for your
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  Speaker 2: magazine Hip Hop Week, Super Weekly, Pop Weekly a long
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  Speaker 2: time ago when it was here in Atlanta. I forgot
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  Speaker 2: who you had was you had somebody on the ground
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  Speaker 2: and he grabbed a couple of people from the radio.
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  Speaker 1: We had the office. Yep, yep. The Browner brothers gave
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  Speaker 1: us to that office and.
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  Speaker 2: I was down there. I was doing reporting for you
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  Speaker 2: all types of stuff. Wow, that was early.
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  Speaker 1: Remember that's right, Dave. It was Dave.
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  Speaker 3: It was Dave, my partner. I do remember remember, because
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  Speaker 3: you was you were still working with the radio that
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  Speaker 3: was on streets on streets.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right there.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that was That was over ten years ago
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  Speaker 2: probably that's when you know, that's when we first came
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  Speaker 2: and you know, this was after the source, of course,
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  Speaker 2: so that were trying.
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  Speaker 3: To like this is like it's like a comeback, and
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  Speaker 3: it was. It was real, dope because as soon as
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  Speaker 3: we got to Atlanta. See, I had came to Atlanta
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  Speaker 3: just to kind of like chill with Stevie for like
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  Speaker 3: two weeks and go back to Miami because I've been
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  Speaker 3: living in Miami for like eight years. So I said
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  Speaker 3: I'm gona come up there. Cause Stevie prior to Love
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  Speaker 3: and Hips, DVJ, stevee J Pride to Love and Hip
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  Speaker 3: Hop sole Heze was coming down to Miami to come
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  Speaker 3: cheer with me. So this is my first time coming
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  Speaker 3: to Atlanta to chill. Now. I had been to Atlanta
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  Speaker 3: a couple of times, like on a tour, a couple
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  Speaker 3: of tours, and we would stop through and a lot
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  Speaker 3: of guys from Boston actually moved to Atlanta, like in
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  Speaker 3: the eighties. A lot of my guys like, and I
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  Speaker 3: was like, I'm never you know, too many trees down south,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 1: I just so I went to Atlanta.
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  Speaker 3: I packed my car up, I said him go for
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  Speaker 3: two weeks, got a spot, and then just ended up
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  Speaker 3: staying for like this is my eleventh year. I had
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  Speaker 3: a son born here, so it's like this is a
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  Speaker 3: you know, like Atlanta is a big part of me
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  Speaker 3: right now, and it just you know, like when I
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  Speaker 3: got here, the Brown and brothers were so cool, like
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  Speaker 3: they gave us that big office. Just take yeah, like
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  Speaker 3: you guys could take the office. I mean, yeah, man, I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean I was I want to thank you because outside
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  Speaker 2: I was very young in the radio game, and that
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  Speaker 2: was like my first credible thing that I was doing
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  Speaker 2: outside of the radio.
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  Speaker 1: You know, on the radio, you gotta.
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  Speaker 2: Be a serial entrepreneurs. I PARTI DJing. But then when
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  Speaker 2: I got that, I never gave it was me jazz
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  Speaker 2: and B and ye. So that was very credible for me.
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  Speaker 2: People start saying, Okay, his opinion matters, he's look at
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  Speaker 2: what he's doing. So I just want to thank you.
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  Speaker 1: No, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: Sing the magazine got to be on love and hip
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  Speaker 3: hop at the beginning, correct, so people. So that was
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  Speaker 3: a great promotion for for sure. And around that time
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  Speaker 3: he was doing pretty good with hip hop.
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  Speaker 2: It was it was dope. It was dope on the platform.
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  Speaker 2: Now man, uh, you know, welcome the ball Alert. We
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  Speaker 2: talk a little shit on here.
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  Speaker 3: My girl loves like my girl Ashley loves the ball Alert.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he loves it for really. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I do want to get straight into how are
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  Speaker 2: you feeling today?
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  Speaker 1: Man?
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  Speaker 2: What's your move to that?
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  Speaker 3: I feel amazing? Honestly, like I'm you know, especially twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty six. I just came into it like you know what,
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  Speaker 3: something just I don't know, like when you reach sixty,
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  Speaker 3: something's going to hit you. So you're sixty sixty Man okay,
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  Speaker 3: gineteen sixty five July Team Boston City Hospital, Man and
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  Speaker 3: and you know, that was a crazy year that year.
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  Speaker 1: So it was like a lot going on.
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  Speaker 3: And it's like it's like when you reach a certain age,
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  Speaker 3: you just see everything through a different lens.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 3: Now, sometimes you know you are who you are in
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  Speaker 3: your environment, and that'll pop up time to time because
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  Speaker 3: it's only natural. You know, where we come from is
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  Speaker 3: always going to be rooted in us. But experiences and
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  Speaker 3: just maturing and having kids and watching them grow up,
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  Speaker 3: you start seeing things through a more logical lens opposed emotional.
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  Speaker 3: And I think throughout my career I've been more emotional.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you feel like you're logical.
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  Speaker 1: Now I feel like I'm way more logical now.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you had a logical opinion when I looked at
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  Speaker 6: your Instagram and you was given your opinion on you know, the.
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  Speaker 5: Different TV shows that steven A. Smith has stephen.
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  Speaker 1: A Okay, Well I'm a fan of both shows by
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  Speaker 1: the way. Now.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, when steven A came out, it was like dope,
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  Speaker 3: big fan, big fan.
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  Speaker 2: It was first with steven A and Skip, I mean, great,
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  Speaker 2: great show because it was like, wow, like we got
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  Speaker 2: you know what well first Stuart Scott rest in Peace
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  Speaker 2: was like, oh yeah, he was the you know, Stuart
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  Speaker 2: Scott was the guy.
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  Speaker 3: And to me he's like the model sportscaster for as
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  Speaker 3: far as the culture how I look at it, he
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  Speaker 3: uses the slang and he never disrespects anybody, always gives
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  Speaker 3: people their flowers, which to me, I think sports casters
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  Speaker 3: should because at the end of the day, win lose
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  Speaker 3: the draw.
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  Speaker 1: Athletes are still athletes.
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  Speaker 3: What they're doing is still amazing given talent just to
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  Speaker 3: be on a professional team, right. I think when steven
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  Speaker 3: A came in and and Skip because Skip could be
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  Speaker 3: guilty of it, also that that more shock sports jock
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  Speaker 3: come in where it stops being ego and it starts.
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  Speaker 1: Being more about them.
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  Speaker 3: And when when when when steven A was just the
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  Speaker 3: sports cast it was dope Because Steven They've been doing
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  Speaker 3: this for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying as a as.
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  Speaker 3: A as a journalist for a news show too. I
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  Speaker 3: mean for a long time before a first take, he
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  Speaker 3: was covering basketball. Now not everything else, just basketball. But
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  Speaker 3: my thing is like, once you stop making it about
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  Speaker 3: you and your ego and the money comes and everything.
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  Speaker 3: You could just start seeing the change. And he makes
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  Speaker 3: it obvious now when he goes at did he goes
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  Speaker 3: at Nicki Minaj And now he's going that Jasmine Crockett
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  Speaker 3: like he goes at anybody goes at the w n
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  Speaker 3: B A not not Caitlin Clark.
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  Speaker 1: Though praises her.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm just noticing the narrative of what he's doing.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, listen, stephen A's bosses are what ABC
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  Speaker 3: and I don't know who owns.
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  Speaker 1: It, Disney Disney. This is huge just as this is
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  Speaker 1: a conglomerate, conglomerate.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm noticing that it seems they seem to be
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  Speaker 3: using him to push this agenda against us.
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  Speaker 2: And as in African American.
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  Speaker 3: African Americans ID like to refer as the culture.
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  Speaker 1: It's like you know when they say the Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: the culture.
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  Speaker 3: You know, So I'm noticing it in this last one
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  Speaker 3: with Jasmine Crockett is just like you know, it's it's
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  Speaker 3: over the top, like come on, man, Like she's the
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  Speaker 3: one voice that speaks our language. She's the one voice
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  Speaker 3: that is in a powerful position that that really the
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  Speaker 3: culture can relate to.
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  Speaker 2: On how she presents for those who don't know who
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  Speaker 2: is Jasmine Crockett.
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  Speaker 3: Jasmin Crockett is a Houston representative for the United States Congress.
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  Speaker 3: She's running for senator. I mean, she's she started out
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  Speaker 3: as a lawyer, civil rights attorney, and she's I mean, she's.
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  Speaker 2: She's very culturally diverse too.
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  Speaker 1: My father and my girl loves her.
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  Speaker 3: Man and and and I have a great deal of
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  Speaker 3: respect and admiration for it because I really could see her.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, she's really what we need. She's she's fairless.
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  Speaker 3: She's fairless, and like I said, when it comes to
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  Speaker 3: the culture, especially the new generation, they can relate to
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  Speaker 3: the way she presents herself. And that's and that's important.
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  Speaker 3: And I feel like he has no just coming at
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  Speaker 3: her now, he's just coming at her because I feel
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  Speaker 3: like he's being paid to come at her, or being
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  Speaker 3: told to come at or instructed to go at it,
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  Speaker 3: because there's no there's no reason for him to be
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  Speaker 3: going at her.
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  Speaker 1: And then he went at joy Reid.
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  Speaker 3: You know, she was at MSNBC, and you know she
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  Speaker 3: got fired after Trump got in office. But it's like,
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  Speaker 3: these are black women, why are you going at I mean,
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  Speaker 3: these are educated black women who have really put the
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  Speaker 3: work in to get where they're at. What is a
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  Speaker 3: sportscaster doing on He has a huge platform with Disney
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  Speaker 3: and that's why he's doing it. And I just feel
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  Speaker 3: like somebody has to say it. And my theory was
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  Speaker 3: steven A when he first take was such a huge
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  Speaker 3: hit with the black community, and he comes, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Pat McAfee all of a sudden. Now now you notice
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  Speaker 3: that Pat McAfee kind of caters to the white audience,
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  Speaker 3: and it's nothing the matter with it. I like Pat
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  Speaker 3: McAfee show also, you know, but his guy's got the mullet,
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  Speaker 3: the cowboy hats. Listen, you know, there's nothing matter with that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, with the culture and white people have started exactly.
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  Speaker 3: But what I'm seeing is it seems like because steve
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  Speaker 3: first take was always number one, you feel me, and
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  Speaker 3: it seems like that they've given steven A the win women.
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  Speaker 3: He's just so happy to get the money and do
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  Speaker 3: whatever they say that he doesn't realize that he's losing
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  Speaker 3: a big part of his black following. And once that happens,
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  Speaker 3: eventually Pat McAfee will take him over. Because we live
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  Speaker 3: in a country. Whether people want to like it or not.
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  Speaker 3: And this is what the eminent thing was about, right,
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  Speaker 3: And when you look at Donald Trump, you.
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  Speaker 1: Could see it.
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  Speaker 3: There are places when we live in the city, Atlanta, Boston, Vegas, Mine,
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  Speaker 3: we're around white people, but we take for grant to
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  Speaker 3: think that kind of maybe all white people are like that,
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  Speaker 3: and it's like that everywhere in the country, and that
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  Speaker 3: couldn't be furthest from the truth. There are parts of
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  Speaker 3: this country that white people never ever see Black people,
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  Speaker 3: like white people have been segregated.
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  Speaker 1: In the hills, in the mountains, in the.
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  Speaker 3: Rural areas forever, correct, we don't see each other. They
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  Speaker 3: stay up there, they might come down and go to
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  Speaker 3: restaurants for the weekend. We go up there and rent
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  Speaker 3: a cabin for the weekend and then and then we
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  Speaker 3: come back.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a different lifestyle. Okay, it's only until.
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  Speaker 3: The internet started making it see where they could see
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  Speaker 3: what we're doing, and and and and we make not
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  Speaker 3: having a lot look good, We make the struggle look
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  Speaker 3: good compared to how they live in So when Donald
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  Speaker 3: Trump comes in, Donald Trump is like, listen, it's not
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  Speaker 3: even about nothing, but we're gonna you know, they've.
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  Speaker 1: Been kind of marginalized as far as rural white.
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  Speaker 3: America, donald Trump comes in, I'm gonna get back on Steve,
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  Speaker 3: and I want to make this This is a great
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  Speaker 3: platform for me to make this point that I feel
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  Speaker 3: like Donald Trump ran on racism and religion, meaning the
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  Speaker 3: policies that affect poor black people are gonna affect poor
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  Speaker 3: white people. There's way more poor white people in America
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  Speaker 3: that we never see, and those rural areas they live
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  Speaker 3: rough up there. It's I mean, I don't you know
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  Speaker 3: again when you're driving on the highway and there's hours
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  Speaker 3: and hours of woods and you're just thinking that that's
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  Speaker 3: just nothing over there.
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  Speaker 1: When you go through at that first.
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  Speaker 3: Layer of trees, those are thousands of people that live
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  Speaker 3: in there, whole communities that you never run across, and
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  Speaker 3: they don't see who we are. And we've been living
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  Speaker 3: with this forever. That's why when Trump started talking about
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  Speaker 3: d was it d D I It really doesn't matter
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  Speaker 3: because we wasn't taking those jobs up there anyways. We've
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  Speaker 3: been segregated, like whatever jobs you have up there, those
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  Speaker 3: are your jobs, and whoever jobs we got in the
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  Speaker 3: city as ours.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what it is.
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  Speaker 3: That's where the segregation takes there's the city, which is
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  Speaker 3: the metropolitan you know, the metropolis, and then there's the
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  Speaker 3: rural areas that's been segregated from day one.
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  Speaker 7: And.
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  Speaker 2: Every major every major city is segregated in that way.
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  Speaker 2: It's the rural area and it's the.
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  Speaker 3: Metropolitany outnumber believe it, they outnumber.
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  Speaker 2: The rural area.
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  Speaker 3: Think of Dakota, Montana, South Dakota, Nebraska. There are places
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  Speaker 3: towns where they have never seen a black man, or
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  Speaker 3: they don't come across black people.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe out of Walmartin. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 6: It's I mean, it's towns in Arkansas that I'm from Arkansas,
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  Speaker 6: so it's towns in Arkansas that don't even see black people.
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  Speaker 6: And the son's sun down towns in Arkansas to where.
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  Speaker 3: There's sundowntowns in Georgia that yeah, outside Atlanta town not
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  Speaker 3: just to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 2: And South Fulton, South Fulton has the largest amount of
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  Speaker 2: population of black people in the country South for Fulton.
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  Speaker 2: But my question to you is in relating to Stephen A. Smith,
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  Speaker 2: is this is this saying to him, you have a
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  Speaker 2: responsibility and you're not using it correctly.
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  Speaker 3: He's the well at this point, it was that. But
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  Speaker 3: at this point, it's just to me, it's obvious that
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  Speaker 3: you are. You are being instructed at this point, so
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  Speaker 3: you think you think there is well, not even beyond
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  Speaker 3: the coone, you are being instructed.
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  Speaker 1: You are a he's a puppet, you are a Yeah
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  Speaker 1: you are. I mean he's.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody up there saying, hey, I need you to absolut
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  Speaker 2: absolutely absolutely look at the big contract you got and
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  Speaker 2: that sports Because all of a sudden he just transferred
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  Speaker 2: into having opinions about the culture.
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  Speaker 1: Now, you know, Stephen A.
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  Speaker 3: Smith was one of these guys that really wasn't the
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  Speaker 3: most hip hop guy there's you know, there's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of black folks that just didn't get in. That's all
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  Speaker 3: right too, But all of a sudden, he has opinions
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  Speaker 3: on hip hop, He has opinions on controversies of what's
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  Speaker 3: going on. And I just think the Jasmine Crockett is
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  Speaker 3: where I draw the line because we can't afford to
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  Speaker 3: have We need her to win that sentence seat, and
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  Speaker 3: we need people like her to win in this system
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  Speaker 3: if we're gonna get anywhere, and we can't have him
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  Speaker 3: doing what he's doing because he's not he he doesn't
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  Speaker 3: even believe the shitty saying, excuse me, he doesn't even believe.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he doesn't even believe.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we passed the first time.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, I've seen the ihearts, so I was.
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  Speaker 3: You, but but no, it's true, Like you know, he
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  Speaker 3: doesn't really even believe that you could see it.
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  Speaker 1: It's just an act.
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  Speaker 3: And again, we're at a time where when you look
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: at the Internet, it's being manipulated in the ways of
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: there's so much misinformation, and the misinformation is being dressed
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: up as headlines like it's and blogged worthy to where
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: it's people think this is really happening.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: So I watched First Take every day or as much
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: as I can, and I watch it for the takes
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: on the sports right. Whenever it starts getting political, that's
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: not the channel that I would like to listen to
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: when it gets political. I think we also have to
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: pay attention to that as watchers too, because what I've
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: seen Stephen A do and I'm not taking his side,
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: I'm just seeing that he's doing additional content on the
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: side right, and he's voicing his opinion on matters that
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: he may not be an expert in. If we talk
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: of basketball, he's been covering basketball for thirty plus years.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: But if we're talking politics, I'm not me personally as
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: an adult. And then we have kids that watch, so
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: I understand that part, and I understand where you're coming from.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to listen to Steven A. Smith for
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: political advice. I'm going to listen to his opinion on
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Lebron James is not the greatest basketball player of all time.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: He's number two because of Michael Jordan. Lebron's number one.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: But my thing is not football, I hope not football.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Football.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: But I just say I think he's just a media
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: personality that's getting the bag. But I also think that
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: he's using the culture. I feel like we all use
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: each other. I feel like he's doing content on the
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: side and trying to milk that ownership part of it
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: because he does own the Stephen A. Smith show that
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: he does on YouTube. What you talk about politicsitics?
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: Do y'all think that sports personality needs to be talking
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: about politics?
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Anybody, well, anybody could, anybody could talk about whatever they
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: want to talk about, all right, first, but again, like
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: he said, have you know again, there's a way to
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: talk about it where it just has logic, and you're
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: a grown man.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: This is bullying. You know what he's talking about, Jasmine christ.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: When he's going there's no there's no reason, you know,
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: because again there's nothing that she's saying. Everything she's saying
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: is for the culture. What do you have a problem
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: with anything she's saying, and be specific about it. He
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: says stuff to get a reaction that they react back.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Then now becomes a personal thing that he comes back
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: and he does this with women all the time. And
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: my thing is, man, you know, you know, you know,
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: I guess when when you're that high, at that platform,
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: you can't talk about the things I would like you
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: want to talk about twelvelift us and help the culture and
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: help Jasmine Crockett win that Senate seat. You'd rather, you know,
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: be sitting around wearing the basketball had I mean wearing
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: a cowboy hat, you know, I mean, just to me,
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: like you said, I would, I would think that at
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: that high up he would have a responsibility and knowing
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: where he came from, I'm sure where his mother came
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: from and his grandmother came from, right that he would
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: be a little more responsible.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: And so I agree with that halfway right, the first
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: half is like I agree, and the other time to bet.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I agree with the fact that he does have a responsibility.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: He has a huge responsibility because he he does so much.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: But I feel like it gets overshadowed because when he
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: does his side commentary that has nothing to do with sports,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: people are looking at him like, bro, what are you
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: talking about right now?
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: I don't need you in.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: This specific space. There are other people that can occupy
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: their space that have a lot more knowledge about it
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: than you.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, I want you.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: To analyze this game that happened last night, because I
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: will say I've seen him go at Lebron. I've seen
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: him go at I forgot. Somebody just called him lame
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: the other day. The guy from the wide receiver sarch
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Gardner's No, it was Garrett Wilson or whatever. I think
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: it's Gary.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: He's just Carnival a wide receiver.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk you know, so, oh yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I'm over here like yeah, fact, fact, yeah. So I'm
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: just saying like, yeah, man, I do believe he definitely
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: has a responsibility. And I'm not I'm a fan of
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Stephen A. Smith, the commentator for Sports Right, I'm not
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: a fan of the political side, because I'm over here like, no,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: that's not where I came here for this. I didn't
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: come here for this guy.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: I just like I said, man, I just think you know,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I challenge him to a boxing match
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: to Yeah, I said, come on, man, my celebrity boxing you.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: No no, no, no.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, yes, Stephen that one. Yeah, Stephen A. Smith,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: My challenge you to a boxing match, man. Three rounds?
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Is it a minute thirty each round? Yeah, let's go
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: in there. You know what I'm saying. I knock you out.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: You think you're not?
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Have you? Have?
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: You said?
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: He been working out for me? I knocked him out
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: for for for jazzmine.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: But he has been working out.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: That's all right. He better I work out too, Okay,
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: I work out too. Yeah, three rounds, man, let's go
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: three rounds.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Mass.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know Steven A.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Smith.
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: He wasn't even afraid of Lebron lebron six.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: No, you don't believe that.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: First, believe that Steven himself when they was on that court.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Stephen crazy. Since when he went on the.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Way on the podcast, and there was nothing more funnier
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: than that when he went on and was like, man, listen, man,
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: They only got one angle of it. Then he get
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: the other angle. Well whatever angle was there. He was balking,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: he was looking.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: I do not believe he was not afraid of the point. Remember,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: and he's doing his job. He's a personality.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: See see steven A. See okay to me. And this
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: is why Stuart Scott was so dope. He gave the difference.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: He gave the athletes their props for sure. That's what
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: it's about. It's about them. It's not about it. He
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: made it about him. Look listen, I know you listen.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: You know he's not really with the culture because he
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: he zips his sweat sweatsuits up all the way up.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: He puts the chain. Now, we don't do that. We
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: don't do that.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: You don't zip the sweatsuit all the way up with
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: the thing hanging right there, with the chain hanging out
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: halfway right there.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: He does that.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: You know you're gonna get at you.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: I'm waying forum, I've been I've been dying. I was
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: the first one to really start saying something. I said somebody.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Something positive to say about him.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: I think He's an amazing especially as a black man sportscaster.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: I think for basketball he's like one of the he's
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: like one of the best, absolutely, But when his ego
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: gets in front of him, then I think that's where
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: and that's what happens to a lot of men. It
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: happens to alid, It happens to the best of us.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, You have to be able
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: to control your ego. People people like sports in their
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: players and everything. And I understand stephen A. His style
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: is to kind of be like what the average sports
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: guy would think when he know I get it, so
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: in that's in that sense he's the master.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I just feel like he's being used wrongly.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: And you know, I mean, listen, man, you know money
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: will make people do crazy stuff. And you know what
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, the culture is fragile, man.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: We need more cultures, very fragile. Well, I feel like
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: it's reconstructing. I feel like it does a master reset
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: every ten years, and it has to reconstruct a little
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: because now look at streaming and podcasting and how we
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: don't even own the consolutely like before ten years ago.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Baller has been doing podcasting since twenty sixteen.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: I'm Gonna get ball Berthday Flowers. Baller was one of
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: the first ones digitally really.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: And I remember I kept saying I was doing doing
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: the podcast me and Kenny Burns.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: They put out a naked picture me years ago, and
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: I was pissed. I mean, this is when they first
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: came up, and I was mad out.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I was you know, the misconception we get all the time.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: When I was with Love and hip Hop put out
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: the naked picture and got ball and all over ship.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: You know what the misconception is, big bro, Like when
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: we whenever BT and I, because we do the podcast,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: people put us with the actual blog and may be
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: we didn't have some crazy calls. Yeah, take that down.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: I'm over here like media, you understand.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I get it, man.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: You know hip Hop Weekly was that the source wasn't
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: that type of magazine.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: But I want to talk about the source because to me,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: I went and bought that magazine, uh, every issue for
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: for a large large period of I don't want you
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: know what I think I did. Okay, I think I
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: do my mouth because you know how because I always
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: wanted to ask you this question. The five mic thing
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: that was like the thing like when I would literally
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: get the Source magazine and go straight to the who
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: got five mics?
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question?
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: So when you've seen somebody that had favorable mics falling
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: up with that, I.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Went and bought the CD. Really yeah, it would make
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: me go by the CD. I just used to get
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: mad when y'all would give like a lot of well
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: not you, whoever.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Was doing it, tell you how that worked.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, So there's the editorial.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: We said, for content, how does the five mics work
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: on the so.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: So, So there's there's.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: A journalistic side, and there's the business side, advertising business,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, button ups, and and.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Then over here wow and ship weed, smoke and you
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Music everywhere.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: We have some great talented people man that worked in
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: the Source, art directors and photographers, journalists, so they would
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: all of course, we would get the music from the
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: labels first, and sometimes from the artists first before the label.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: That was fire, Yeah, that was dope.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: That was the best part of it for me is
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: that we got to listen to the music before it
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: even came out, you know what I'm saying. And there'd
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: be a room in the back of the conference room
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: and they all get together, you know what I'm saying.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: And I've never been in there but maybe twice my
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: whole eighteen years at the Source. I've never been in
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: the room where everybody And you gotta understand, it's a
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: diverse group of people.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: The people from almost like the Grammy selection a little
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: bit absolutely not okay to absolutely not see.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: You gotta understand we was the anti Gramm when I'll
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: get to the Social Awards, because that's what the Source
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Awards was. But the when it comes to the five mics,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: you have a diverse group of people where people are
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: from all over the place.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: They were college kids the majority.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: I was the one that would hire like somebody that
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: comes straight out of jail or somebody that had skills
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: in writing that was in the streets without a college diploma.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: But generally it was a college because the guys that
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: discovered the Source, Dave and is three guys they who
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: actually discovered it, well, Dave and then he you know
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: the three guys, they were all Ivy League guys, you
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And yeah, it was like they
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: would sit back there, they listen to the music and
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: you know, they had a pretty good there that has
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: some pretty good ears. You know, that's a pretty well
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: they started developing it and then you know a lot
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: of the people that work for the sauce.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Came in in like kind of groups.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: There was the original group to ninety four, and after
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: ninety four there was a group that went.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: So it was like people came in and out.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: The great thing is that these people went on to
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: do movies and HBO and then I mean amazing stuff,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: So yeah, man, like that was and you know, to me.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Personally, this is how I always felt because Rolling Stone
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: magazine were the first ones to rate all right music
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: and Dave's vision for the source was a hip hop
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: rolling Stone. The maggot rolling Stone was doing so well
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: with advertisement, but you know, companies wasn't ready to advertise
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: with hip hop yet and young black men in the
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: street at all. So, you know, Dave, I have to
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: give him his flowers because he really pioneered. It's one thing, yes,
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: writing about hip hop, and that was a great thing
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: because as hip hop was growing, you know, I mean, shit,
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: saus came in fifteen years after hip hop was first born,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: so it was you know, it was a teenager by
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: the time. Hip hop was a teenager by the time
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Sauce came in. But it was a great time because
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: it was kind of grown the nineties exactly when it.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Was getting its props.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Eighty eight was the first Sauce magazine, nineteen eighty eight,
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: and you know it at that time there was kind
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: of territorialized. You know, New York of course was the mecca.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: And then as years went on, then everybody started getting
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: their own Midwest, West Coast and then of course ninety
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: five Sauce Awards South got something to say and hasn't
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: looked back.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: So, I remember when y'all gave Little Kim five mikes.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I felt like that was a big deal because because
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: she was I felt like, to me, correct me if
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: I'm wrong, was that the first female to get five mics?
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: She got five mics? That that was you know, we
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: had some controversy about that.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a big steer about that. That's that's
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: when it was like the MTV news.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: The five mic was the review, right, one, two, three, four,
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: five mikes and then it got so the average was
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: three and a half. Well see see the halfs didn't come.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you how to how to come in,
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: because one thing about the mic system you gotta understand.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Let me you have to understand about the mic system.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: And this is what people didn't understand, right, this is
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: what Remember, there's two sides, jenernalistic art and then there's business.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: You got to run a business when labels are giving
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: you their artists. Not everybody's gonna be four mics and
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: five mics, and so you're gonna get some stuff that's
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: not so good and they give them two mics. But
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: the label's paying a lot of money for advertisement, So
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: now you kind of what might have to give them.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: So I had to introduce the half mic system to
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: it because it was the only way that we could
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: please somebody. To please somebody, Now, if we give somebody
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: three three and a half, it gives us some leadway
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: to be like, okay.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: And the labels, I'm pretty sure we're happy.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, yeah, I mean anybody who got
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: nobody was happy with the mics unless they got five.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Everybody was mad.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: And people actually thought I was the one that was
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: making decisions and I wasn't there. Yeah, you know, and
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: I wasn't so Proz told me that. Norway told me
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: it was like, yo, man, never used to like you,
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: And I'm like why. It was like, yeah, because you
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: gave mysel and said I always thought that you guys
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: said nah, not at all. I said, I never. There
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: was only two times, and it was a controversial time.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: And I spoke about this before. All right, So when
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: now cast first album came.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I was about to say nineteen ninety eight. Yeah, when
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I was cast, first album came, they got five mics.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: No, well no, it got it got I think they
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: got four and a half, four and a half and
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: a half because because it was almost like us being
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: up in New York, we really didn't hear it for sure.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: So some some some of the staff wanted to give
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: them five. And that was the one time, and I
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: regretted so much, man, but.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: You get but you came back around the Femini album
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: got five mics.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean listen, but that but their first one,
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like you know, I you know,
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: that was the one time. It was two times. I
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: did it when I was beefing with eminem and I
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: gave made Men four and a half I just had
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: to let my nuts hang man, like for real, like,
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: come on, that's it's my it's my magazine and beefing. Yeah, yeah,
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna give your album too, And I'm gonna give
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: my album four and a half.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, wouldn't you.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't you if you beefing with somebody, you're gonna give
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: them four and a half mics?
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Come on?
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: You know what I say? You do?
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Who do now?
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: Now?
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: As as you became a legend in the game, you
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: have kids.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Now, I appreciate that you know.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Do music because I believe Kurt mean from your son
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: this music too.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Ray Ray Ray Ray was.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: The first one to be signed, and he had a
• 31:20
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  Speaker 1: They had a deal and May he gave him.
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  Speaker 3: Like almost a half million dollars and everything's beautiful, and
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  Speaker 3: you know he did the video Benny Boom shot the
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• 31:37
  Speaker 1: They spent a couple of hundred thousand on the video.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: And then the Eminem Beef's happened and then that was
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: it for that what you what you mean to eminem Beef?
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Happened right around the time while the right before the
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: album was giving it a come out.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Me and m got into it, and then Jimmy.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: Dropped him, Oh yeah, something that you would do.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. He's fast.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, did THEE hurt your career?
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, obviously obviously you know hindsight music music, yes,
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: music wise one because you know so Sylvia wrong, all right? Sylvia,
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Sylvia Wroon an amazing, amazing, amazing woman, one of probably
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: the most amazing women in black music, especially my time,
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: for sure.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I mean just an.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Amazing black woman, black executive, worked at many labels, really
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: really was instrumental in music with the culture. I mean,
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: can't give her enough flowers. All right, she's dope. She
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: gave me a real good opportunity with Rock the Party
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Man that Mario Wine is produced. That was like my
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: biggest song on my life, and she was happy, gave
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: me a bunch of money. I got a million dollars
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: for that deal, and it was like we getting mad
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: money with the sauce and all of a sudden, I'm
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: getting a million dollar deal. This is crazy. And then
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: the Eminem beef happened and I remember see I was
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: doing mixtapes before the album came out in Miami, and
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: I made like a little I said, like a couple
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: of lines on it at the end of a mixtape
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: on song twenty one about Eminem. Next thing, you know,
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: he made a whole hymn and green Land made a
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: whole mixtape going at me. So then when the album
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: is the album coming out of Rock the Party.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: It's my big album, Sylvia.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: I got the song on NBA Jam the Songs and
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Eddie Murphy's the main song of Eddie Murphy's movie where
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: he was boxing like bro, like I'm doing major shit
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: torn around the world. So when the Eminem beef happened,
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: it got she got winto it and she was like, look,
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: you know, keep that away from you know, I really
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: don't want him doing it.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Mario told me what she said.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: I was like, all right, and I fuck around snucked
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: it this song on the album to pull your skirt
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: up on the album.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: I known about it, so I never forget. Man.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: I went in the office and she was there, and
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: you know, I had a lot of respect for her.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: I looked at her like you know, when you when
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: you see women like that, you looked at me like
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: in like a motherly type, you know what I'm saying,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: And that's how I looked at it. And I went
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: through so much just to get to that position, and
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: just and again I let my emotions and let my
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: my streetness and my immaturity take the best of me.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: And man, and she cheat.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: It was a moment that we came and sat in
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: there and it looked like she wanted to cry, and
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: I looked like I wanted to cry, and she said,
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: I have to let you go, and I just was
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: like damn. I was like, man, she was like, she said,
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: why'd you do this? She was like we had everything.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: She's like, this is why would you know? She gave
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: me that and I sat there and just didn't say nothing.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I know what to say. I never told that story.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: That was an emotional story for me because you let
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: me tell you something my whole life, That's all I wanted,
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Like like I started out my grandfather's basement with my
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: uncle teaching me how to in the South Bronx teaching
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: me how to spend records, and I was cutting up
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: to be real like I was eleven years old, like
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: I'm a hip hop head and you know, all the controversies,
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: all the stuff I went through in Boston, to depths,
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: everything I went through, and I got to that moment
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: and this is where ego. I'm gonna tell you, this
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: is where Ego fucked me up and I had to
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: learn the hardway, you know.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: What I'm saying.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: That's why anytime I see somebody do it, I try
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: to tell them, look, don't you don't let your ego
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: fuck it up. Because I had everything going for me,
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: and even though she dropped me, I still was getting
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: money with the Source. But I wasn't a magazine guy.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: I kind of adapted and adjusted. I'm a hustle I
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: could do anything. So once I got to the Source,
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: I started doing main things like outside the pages, like
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: the Source Awards was a major thing for Mesa, all
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: the Access TV show, The Source hip Hop hits first
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: compilation sold five million copies on Death Jam. All that
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: came from me and The Source hip Hop Behind Bars
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: one of the best selling covers. All that was my idea,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Like I came with ideas. That was I was like
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: the brand manager outside and then I was picking covers,
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: so my duties grew.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: But I always wanted to hit record.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Man, I just wanted to hit and I had it,
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: and that fucking and that beef with him just fucked
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: me up. And then all the radio stations just started
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: taking his side.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: So even like Hot ninety seven like to this day,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: and that's.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Back when radio literally was the only outlet. It was
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: a couple of websites.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: It was radio, it was ray it and listen. The
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: first thing was look.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: So prior to that, Flex had one of the things
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: I always wanted was the head funk master. Flex throw
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: bombs on my on my music. And I remember I
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: did bang to this. It was my first solo album.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Shout to Qui Dar and hey Don Matsenberg and I
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: was signed to Motown.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: That was my first solo album. Like I can you
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: fucking believe it?
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: I was signed to Motown, bro, and the album was
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: dope And you know, I did everything right, you know
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying. But it wasn't no beef for them
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: in them and we were just making dope ass music.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: I had Bobby Brown on the app. I had a
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: bunch of people Snoop Scarface, I mean a gang of people,
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Foxy Kim, like you know what I'm saying, and you know,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: it was dope, man, Like I got a good amount
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: of money for the deal.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like shit.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: So I don't know, man, It's like when you look
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: back and I don't try to live with regrets. But
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: for some reason, the one with Sylvia, maybe because she
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: was a woman, and again it was that motherly type
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: of thing, and that moment felt like my mother was
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: talking to me. I kind of regretted that, you know
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying, because you know, that's all I ever wanted.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: You know, Flex was throwing bombs on bang to this
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: man in New York. I'm from Boston, kid from Boston,
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Like I'm finally getting my music. I took so hard,
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: we done lost so many guys in Boston, and that
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: was affiliated with us because you know, it was crazy then,
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: you know. So you know what I'm saying that the
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: battle didn't mess with my career absolutely because he has
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: a big fan base. He was making so much money,
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: and I'm just it wasn't me trying to battle him.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: I'm just trying to say, hey, look, hip hop is
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: bringing all these white folks to us, a beautiful thing.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: It's merging the coaches. It's is dope.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: But I've seen how you know, Jimmy and them, and
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: there was positioned to him. They wanted him. And this
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: is where I started talking about the Trump thing. They
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: I go back to it. They wanted him for all
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: those white people I was talking about earlier that don't
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: mess with black people aren't for nothing. It just doesn't matter,
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: and they just don't mess with them. They don't care,
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: like if if you're rapping or whatever, we'll we'll mess
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: with rap if he's rapping, because he's one of us.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: So now they will build him on a pedestal because
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: hip hop is such an influential, influential platform platform and
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: it gets into these white kids souls and spirits. That
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: was to me that they didn't want that they so
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: it's like, we got to give you one of our own.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: And that's why they hold on to him so much.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: Now he's six almost sixty like me, but they haven't
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: had another one since him, and they want to hold
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: on because that's their seat at the hip hop table,
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: is him. But if they just understand, just come in
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: hip hop and everything's good. It doesn't have to be
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: white and black. They make it like that. And these
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: are these are his fans, and these are the fans.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: I feel like Generation Z is a lot more and absolutely.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, absolutely not.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Absolutely so because those places Montana, remember I told you
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: they South Dakota, Dakota, those places still Generation.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: I feel like there's a lot more though absolutely not,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: because I see a lot more black artists.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: You know why festivals, the Trump look at Trump and
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: look at the election. The country split.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: There's what three hundred million people here and one hundred
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: and fifty million of white, all white voting for Trump.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: All right, so what's that telling you?
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: He did, he did, he's great at uh, he had
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: a great marketing strand no, no.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: No, right, right, just to just appeal to the whites.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Forget about everything else.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Just say we don't like blacks, we don't like Spanish,
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: and you're gonna get all the whites in those rural
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: areas that never came out before stand behind me. Because
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Trump is a city white guy. He's not one of them,
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: he's fo he's more black than than them.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: It's just that he needed them for the votes.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: So because his policies fucked them up too, they they
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: just want to be again. They've been marginalized. We think
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: we've been marginalized. Shit, we on Instagram popping. They're like,
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: fuck that, this is fucked up. They want to they
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: want some of this cartoon. It's attention. So so Trump
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: like comes stand behind me, and that's how they got
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: the votes.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: And that's what's messing us up.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: He went to do those small towns, in those rural areas.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: I saw the campaign. I'll never forget it. I was like, yeah,
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: he did them small towns.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: But there's seventeen billion of them, you know what I'm saying, Like,
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying this, this, this, it's there's
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: too much land with with with telling you we just
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: take it for granted because we amongst white people in
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: the city, which that's how it should be.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: I love all people. I was raised to love all people.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: But I come from Boston where it was racist and
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: segregated too.
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• 41:29
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• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Of course I pray, but but but you know, my prayer.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: I thank God like a lot anything that happens to
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: me good. It could be something good. I could just
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: be getting picked up on too. Thank you God. I
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: just thank God all day for the everything. So you
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And my girl gave me a
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  Speaker 3: good prayer that I say. You know, I don't say
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: it all the time, but I say it when when
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: you know, when I can. You know, my mental health
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: is really the gym, you know, weed. And then just
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: like I don't let myself defeat myself any I don't
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: let my thoughts defeat myself anytime. An you know, anytime
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: thoughts come in me, I just I just defeat them.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying with positivity or with something
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: that's gonna put me in a good move. You know,
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: I just don't let myself think about something because it
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• 42:23
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• 42:26
  Speaker 3: the mirage. So you know you have to kind of
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  Speaker 3: an absolute legend in the game. His catalog is amazing.
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  Speaker 3: He's done amazing things with television and I mean very
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  Speaker 3: much talent, coming from where he came from, can't just
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  Speaker 3: be more responsible with his platform and with his brand
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  Speaker 3: who he is when it comes to black people, it's.
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  Speaker 3: When you look at all his success, there's something there
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  Speaker 3: people with respect and kindness. And you know, there's something
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  Speaker 3: because I don't even that's not even in my vocabulary.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: I ain't, you know.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: I was born before the internet and I've been in
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: the streets all my life. I don't know what trolling is.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: I know what disrespect is. That's all I know, you know.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, So I really, in my in my opinion, I
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  Speaker 2: just really think he's trolling, which and I just don't
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  Speaker 2: think he can.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, then let me then let me counter that when
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• 46:34
  Speaker 3: but being petty around the crib, which you're playing around,
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: but being petty in business and in careers and in
• 46:42
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• 46:44
  Speaker 1: There are levels of petty that shouldn't be touched.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: You know, we could play with the word petty and
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  Speaker 3: say it's petty and just minimize the word. But yes,
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  Speaker 3: depending on how petty you're being, what.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: He does is beyond petty.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: It's it's a psychological situation going on there that you
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  Speaker 3: could tell that there's definitely something wrong there because everybody
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: that he comes with, as successful as he is as
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: an individual, he definitely has a problem with people that
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: even he makes money with.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: You know, you look at his whole.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Crew from Game Young Buck, Olivia, the whole crew he's gotten.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Into it with.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: Of these are people that he signed and he's very
• 47:28
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• 47:33
  Speaker 3: for you.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Then you look at.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Power him and Omari this is the man that made
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: Power what it was.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: How do you have a problem with him?
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Then you look at BMF Meets and his son, how
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: do you You're not having problems with.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: The side guys, or the or the or the or the.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: Stylists, or you having with the people who are majorly
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: making you money in your endeavors. How do you have
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: a problem with everybody?
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm a bad person to reply to this because
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: I'm a fifty fan, right, So okay, my answer to
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: you is because you know, in business and and and
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: structurized situations, when things go left, he just detaches. This
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: is what I'm seeing from now side looking in. When
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: something shady happens, he literally looks like he just said,
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: all right, fuck it, Nory. Are we not seeing that
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: in real time? He's literally like debting the situation and saying,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: all right, cool, you crossed me. F you now you
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: want to go low?
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Let me give another example.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong. Anybody that's literally no, no, no, no.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: I mean it would be cool if that was one
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: of two people.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: But everybody he has problems with his Forget about the
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: people on the outside.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: He's having problems with jay Z. Anybody jay Z? Did
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: he the biggest.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Guys he has problems with, you know, but these are
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: people in his camp that he's making money with.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen that before.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: I just haven't experienced that to that level, to that
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: many people.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: I've never I've been in this game since day one,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: I just haven't seen it.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Of course, you could have an artist and it didn't
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: work out, but all these artists, including Lloyd Banks, these
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: are all they were all successful in doing good. Is
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: something about there's a mechanism that won't allow him to
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: have anybody as big as him.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: He does.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: He wants to be the biggest. And you know that's that,
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: ain't it me? I had a big crew, but I stood.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: I always stood shoulder to shoulder. I never try to
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: be the biggest. You know what I'm saying. That's how
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: you that's how you maintain a situation. And with him
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: even now, like the thing about him, he knows how
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: to control the narrative with bots and paying people around
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: the clock to put out misinformation.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Let me give you the new one, and this is
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: a good one. This one came out.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: You see the thing where they just came out and
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: said one hundred and twenty four million. He's about to job.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: See that that he's you know with the shreefs Port movie.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: That's Cat, thanks you, that's super Cat. And let me
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: just tell you why. First of all, right, Louisiana. I
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: love Louisiana. I love the people Louisiana, streets Port, Baton Rouge.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: I was in Gonzales. I got a lot of friends
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: down there, like they loved me down there in them hoods.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: And you know, so you know, there's no knock on nothing.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: So Shreet's Port, it seems like somebody kind of condiments
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: to getting that property that was probably sitting there collecting,
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: you know, dust, darned and bushes. For years, he's been
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: saying this is what he's gonna do now with the
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: internet and with his fans.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Not you you good, good good, But.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he has some really impressionable, kind of corny fans
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: that just you know, no, not you, no, I'm not
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: saying that, you know, okay, okay, because he has he
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: has the luxury of getting a lot of Eminem's fans,
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: which are out of white fans, you know, fans that
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: are not necessarily in the culture.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: That's so let's put that there, all right, And he
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: knows that.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: So when you put out these visuals of New Orleans
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: that was trying to do movies in New Orleans, New
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: Orleans last for the movie. It fell twenty five percent
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: just last year in New Orleans. Now, New Orleans is
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: where the people are at the tourism. So if it's
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: not working the larger amount of so if it's not
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: working in New Orleans.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Now, he said that he's gonna invest one hundred and
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: twenty four million.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: Dollars and in twenty years it's gonna eighteen billion dollars.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: That's almost a billion a year. Right, they can't even
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: make a couple of hundred million in New Orleans from movies.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: They're giving people fifty percent tax breaks just to come
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: shoot down there. How in the hell is Shreevesport gonna
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: make a billion a year from the TV movie industry.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: And again, this thing that he put out that's everywhere
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: the blogs pick up. It was commissioned by Geniu. This
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: report that he's putting out the hundreds. It's all cap
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: it's just that he knows right now he's having problems
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: with pat Pools.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: He's having problems as far as the algorithm.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: He's having problems with that fabulous diss So, hey, let's
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: put that out and then my fans will hop on it.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: They'll jump on it. Yeah, fifty he's like, yeah.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, these people are obsessed the shady fans, Eminem fifty fans.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: They're a different type of fans because they're not accepted
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: in the cool club of the culture.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: This is their way of just forcing their way. Just
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: it's fifty fifty, it's Eminem And it's like no, absolutely not,
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: Like they're the ones that are getting fooled. You can't
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: fool me now. I'm not saying that that he's gonna try,
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: because I don't know if as far as I'm concerned
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: that nothing's moving in Treesport right now at them buildings
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: I seen about two months ago we put things out
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: with the big G unit all glass building with the
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: G unit sign, Like where's that building at the sport?
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, come on, man, Like
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: you see, he uses that the same way Trump and
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: the same way other people use it to push their narrative,
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: people making money that way on fooling people, to make
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: them think that they're bigger and doing more than what
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: they are. All he has to do is make you know,
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: have somebody draw up the visuals for it, put the
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: headline up there, and then go pay a few blogs
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: and put it up.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: And next thing.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: You know, it's a distraction from that fabulous disc and
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: that ate his ass up for him to answer that,
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: for him to say, oh, man, fifties getting ready to
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: put six thousand jobs in Streetport and it's gonna make eighteen's.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: That's a lie, you lying to the people. Bro.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: It doesn't economically even add up. But he knows he
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: takes for granted the culture not knowing stuff like that.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: And he also figures that he has a fan base
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: that's just gonna believe. Hey, you know, I'm shitting out
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: bitcoin today in the toilet. Nigga be like, wow, you
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: know it's my fucking God, did you he's Etty Ship
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: not Bitcoin?
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Oh Jesus Christ? Like yeah, man, it's it's a different
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: type of game, man. I just me. I'm just too authentic, authentic.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: I came from the time where you know, you got
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: to show me from the you know, you gotta I
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: have to see it in front of my eyes to
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: believe it. I just I just did that. I did
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: the research and I did the math, and it just
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: wasn't mathing.
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: Okay, Well, who's gonna be hosting his boxing mac with
• 54:15
  Speaker 6: you and Stephen A.
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: Smith Man?
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: I want him to. I want to accept first. You
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I think he would be dope.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: I'm sixty, howd Stephen? He probably about the same age. No, no, No,
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: he's younger. He's younger, and he's bigger. He's like six
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: something bigger. He has a reach and everything. I would
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: love this. Yeah, I'm I'm, I'm yeah.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: What's yeah? What's his age? Because yeah, this would be
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: good man. Three rounds.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: I knock him out easily, easy, be easy, easy money.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: That chin looks so fragile eight years old it is.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: I'm sixty, let's go, let's go. Yeah, I'm knocking Curming
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: out first round. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, Because again, man, somebody
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: got stick up for our black queen's and you know,
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: if it's gonna Benzeno, then let it be.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Well, Steven A.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Smith, you are invited to the show, push up on this.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Let's see if we can make this match happ and
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: I don't think I don't think it's gonna happen, but
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's why.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Not it'll be good. I mean three rounds was three rounds?
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We could say we can
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: hug it out after Nah, not really, I ain't gonna
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: hug it.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you, Let me ask you a question.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: Do you think do you think that you and Eminem
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: or you and fifty can ever have a conversation in squads?
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, you know when Fifty was at the
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: Hit Factory with Job ruined him and he got stabbed,
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: he ran down to my session and I helped him,
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: and this is you know, this was before all this,
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: and I sent him in a car service that I
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: paid for to the hospital. Did you know that story
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: when he was at the Hit Factory and he got
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: stabbed with joab ruined him.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Remember that story? Yeah? Yeah, I remember. Well that's Sony.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: I was at Sony Would Made Men recording our album,
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: and Sony's head and Hip Factory's heir and one of
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: the group, mister Jesus, was out there.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Smoking a bogie and he came down.
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: He brought Fifty in and we was like in the
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: basement room they called the hip hop room.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: I'm playing Madden.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: It's about seven eight of us in there, and he
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: came in. He stood by the door, He's like yo,
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: and he mentioned the track masters who I knew He
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: was like, yeah, man, track mass say he was cool
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: and I was like, yeah, all right, what's uping man.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: He showed me the cut where they stabbed him, you
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Showed me the gun that YAlO dropped.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: That Tony Yo dropped the gun he said had no bullets,
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: and he showed the whole room. It was a little
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: revolver and he said that YAlO dropped the gun.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: There was no bullets. And he said he picked the
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: gun up. There was no bullets. He told us that.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: I didn't ask him.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It was multiple, it was
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: it was like about it. It was like this, just
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: like this. We was all in the room.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: So on YAlO. When YAlO tells the.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: Stories, Oh man, fifty had the big forty in here.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no, you got popped. You
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: dropped the gun. There was no bullets in it. Fifty
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: picked it up, ran down. In my session. I caught
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: his car service and he went to Bellevue and got
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: stitched up.
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: And that's the real story.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Why would I make some shit like that for it?
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: Ball al or So at sixty years old, Benzito, I mean,
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, don't get people have heard that that story before,
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: but I mean it's you know, he won't bring it up,
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: and you know what I'm saying, so you know what
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: I mean. Like, you know, so the friendship was there
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: right there. Being cool was there from the beginning. It
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: was there was no beef with me and him. He
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: had to take on Eminem's beef because Eminem Andem just
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: signed him. I respect it, I get it. We was
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: making distracts at each other. It ain't nothing. It's hip hop.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: Hip Hop's about battling.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: So you're not.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: You guys are never gone.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: I would never say never. Man, I'm sixty. Of course.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: You know, like under the right circumstances, as men, you
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: should be able to. My father said these tables were
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: made for more than just eating. We should be able
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: to sit down as men at the table kids and
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: hash that's nothing. Nobody got killed, nobody got shot, So
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: we should be able to, you know, whatever's in the
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: passes in the past and move forward.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: I'm always hoping for.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: That because I do like the fact that I saw
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: I see fifty in Cameron and I see fifty in
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: fact Joe, because I remember, boy, that was heat. So
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: maybe it's a possibility.
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I think the eminem thing is
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: just too sticky a situation.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: Man, I'd be like, damn.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: I mean listen, I still get hate from his fans
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: daily on my Instagram daily. I don't got a whole
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: bunch of pages shut down because of that shit. So
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: you know, this is twenty two years of this. Yeah,
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: I'm like, man, these motherfucker's damn adn't now.
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: I'll be beefing forever up top man.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: I mean no, no, that's that's not me. I'm listen.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't be one. I don't be wander.
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: My thing is just like he just came out with
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: a disrecord and I came out with this is twenty
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: years later. He mentioned A and Koy in a song
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: twenty some years later, and it was like, come.
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: On, well, he just put out a song in this show.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: It's about a year and a half ago.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: And I went down to his I went down to
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: his restaurant, Mam Spaghetti, and I did rap Elvis throwing
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: the meat balls all over. It ain't gonna stop, okay, yes'
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: before we go down.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: We got great kids too, both of us.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: That's crazy, hey, before we go because they're rapping us.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: How proud are you of Koy man?
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: Not just proud, but in awe, Like really you're doing
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: her things for sure?
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: Oh man, Man, her daughters is so fucking adorable, bro.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: Like my Yoko is my god, She's beautiful man. So
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: listen man, I'm you know, I'm still in awe. Man,
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: I'm in all with all my kids, Man, Ray, Ray,
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: Taj Zeno, ky Samaj. I mean listen, man, I know
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: you know when you got kids, man, especially when they're
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: financially independ what the fuck is better than that?
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, like come on.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: As a dad, Yeah, that's what That's how you raise
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: them in name Ray, Ray and Court, especially Court. I
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: got sons, but coys more like me than all them,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: all my sons a chill.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: Coy's like, like, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: She's super super like motivated and she whatever she wants,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: she's gonna get. She's never gonna take no for an answer,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: very strong minded. I know she just had the baby
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: not too long ago. Beautiful yeah my uncle, Yeah yeah,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: she's a beautiful, beautiful baby.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: I mean you know, I'm a granddad sixty years old. Granddad,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: you know for sure.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: Well listen, man, it was a pleasure. I push that up.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: I listen a lot of doubt. Watch yeah, damn it.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: And remember, if you say don't fuck with my Aura,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: it's something Benzino sent you.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: He say he's looking you five percent off. Yeah Royce.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: Royce said he's gonna get you five percent off. You
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: just gonna say, don't funk with my Aura and Benzino sen.
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• 1:01:04
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