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Princess Di’s Brother Talks About Being “Gaslit By A King”, The Rift Between Harry and William, And His Biggest Regret · I Do, Part 2

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  Speaker 1: We're just hours away from Charles Spencer's long-awaited and much-publicized
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  Speaker 1: memoir about his sister, Princess Diana. He is still doing
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  Speaker 1: the rounds, and he is still dropping bombshells about King Charles,
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  Speaker 1: about William and Harry, and about his biggest regret when
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  Speaker 1: he gave the eulogy for his sister, Princess Diana. And
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  Speaker 1: with that, everyone, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ.
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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, September 14th. and yes, it is tomorrow,
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  Speaker 1: the 22nd of September, that the long-awaited book is finally released,
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  Speaker 1: but I am sure no one will be more relieved
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  Speaker 1: when this is all said and done more than Buckingham
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  Speaker 1: Palace itself.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe not. It might be worse. Who knows what's in
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  Speaker 2: this thing? He's dropping stuff to keep trickling stuff out,
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  Speaker 2: but it seems like he's got a bone to pick.
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  Speaker 2: He's got a score to settle right now. He knows
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  Speaker 2: what he's doing, it seems, right now, Rose.
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  Speaker 1: It certainly is. It certainly seems that way. And each headline,
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  Speaker 1: the last one I saw that he's told folks, and
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  Speaker 1: it almost kind of made me laugh out loud, he
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  Speaker 1: told several members of the media that he has nothing
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  Speaker 1: to do with the king anymore. I would think that
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  Speaker 1: would have absolutely had to be the case to read
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  Speaker 1: what we've read so far in terms of the excerpts.
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  Speaker 1: Can't imagine you'd have a any sort of relationship, let
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  Speaker 1: alone a cordial one, and write what he has written
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  Speaker 1: about what he claims then Prince Charles said and felt
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  Speaker 1: about his sister. He knew what he was doing when
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  Speaker 1: he wrote what he wrote. And he actually says he
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  Speaker 1: felt like he had a duty to do so.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look, he lost his sister in the most
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  Speaker 2: public of ways. And the fascination and even the questions
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  Speaker 2: around her have not stopped in 30 years. This is
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  Speaker 2: still fresh information. For him, and that, you could argue,
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  Speaker 2: tore a family apart, right? A lot of stuff was
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  Speaker 2: happening before that, but this just ripped everybody apart. Those
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  Speaker 2: boys still aren't getting along. And now this, again, he
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  Speaker 2: feels how he feels, but this is bad.
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  Speaker 1: You know what?
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  Speaker 2: He's one of the most credible figures we could have
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  Speaker 2: out there talking about the king that people would listen to.
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  Speaker 1: And he is actually one of those figures that, given
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  Speaker 1: the fissure and given all of the divide that has
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  Speaker 1: been widely, I would even say it's been publicized, but
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  Speaker 1: it's been fictionalized in a lot of ways too with
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  Speaker 1: all of these recent series and movies about the crown,
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  Speaker 1: the queen, all of that. But Charles Spencer is somebody
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  Speaker 1: who represents both Princess Diana's family, the uncle of those
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  Speaker 1: two boys, William and Harry, the future king, and yes,
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  Speaker 1: the once-brother-in-law of King Charles. He could have been a uniter,
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  Speaker 1: but unfortunately this book is exposing just how deep some
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  Speaker 1: of these divisions have run, and it continued even 30
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  Speaker 1: years later. And that's the sad part about it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you expect it from this guy, perhaps, but some
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  Speaker 2: other stuff with the family, you just hate it. And
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  Speaker 2: it really does. You were showing me the picture earlier.
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  Speaker 2: All I see is I have no burned memory of...
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  Speaker 2: a happy family of Charles, Diana, and the two boys.
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  Speaker 2: Only pictures I remember is her with the two boys.
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  Speaker 1: That's so true.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 1: I hadn't even thought about that, but you're right.
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  Speaker 2: So there's such a part of that whole legacy, and
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  Speaker 2: this is just more messiness.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And it reads, actually.
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  Speaker 1: It does.
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  Speaker 2: Her family doesn't like the king. Shocker.
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  Speaker 1: You don't say. And now it's all written down for
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  Speaker 1: everyone to read, or at least it will be in
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  Speaker 1: a matter of hours. And Charles Spencer has been making
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  Speaker 1: the rounds and we've been reporting on it to several
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  Speaker 1: different outlets promoting his book. And each day we get
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  Speaker 1: different headlines. But I thought it was interesting when Charles
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  Speaker 1: Spencer was asked by the BBC about William and Harry.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought a couple of things stood out. First
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  Speaker 1: of all, he said that none of what he's written,
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  Speaker 1: we've described a lot of what he said is a
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  Speaker 1: bombshell or a shocking headline. I thought it was interesting.
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  Speaker 1: He said, none of what I've written, those words that
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  Speaker 1: I've written will not be a surprise to William and Harry.
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  Speaker 1: And in a way he's saying, yes, they know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying is true. They won't come out and say,
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  Speaker 1: none of this is true. They've, they've already known this
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  Speaker 1: because they lived it. They experienced it. They heard it.
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  Speaker 1: They saw it.
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  Speaker 2: It's also possible. He gave them a heads up about
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  Speaker 2: what he was writing. Um, I would hope he did.
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  Speaker 2: because this impacts their family in a major way. So
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  Speaker 2: hopefully he, we hear this oftentimes, even, People, before they
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  Speaker 2: write books, they'll check in with their exes before they
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  Speaker 2: do this stuff sometimes. So I hope so. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think that was more to give credence to the
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  Speaker 2: things he was saying.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. And then he did say this, and I didn't
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  Speaker 1: know that this was out there. Maybe the British press
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  Speaker 1: covers this a little bit differently than we do. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure they do more extensively. But he said, there's a
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  Speaker 1: perception in the media that I'm on Harry's side.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't either. But he felt the need to
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  Speaker 1: speak out about it. He said, well, I'm on my
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  Speaker 1: deceased sister's son's side, both of them. And if either
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  Speaker 1: of them wanted anything, then I'd be equally there for them.
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  Speaker 1: And I never get involved in one camp or the
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  Speaker 1: other except as a benign figure. And he said that
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  Speaker 1: there are a lot of reasons on both sides why
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  Speaker 1: William and Harry are He says, got to this stage.
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  Speaker 1: I hope one day it's resolved. Look, it's very rare
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  Speaker 1: that we hear anyone even acknowledge. Who would know that
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  Speaker 1: there is this rift between them? Yes, we know it. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: we've heard about it. But to actually hear Charles Spencer
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  Speaker 1: acknowledge it is of note.
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  Speaker 2: But what relationship does he have with the boys? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: how close is he to them? It's possible he has
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  Speaker 2: no relationship with them.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know about his relationship with William, but certainly
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  Speaker 1: there has been in the media reports that Harry has
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  Speaker 1: stayed with them or has been visiting with them his
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  Speaker 1: mother's family's side when he came to the UK, when
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  Speaker 1: Meghan came to the UK. You're right, we're not privy
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  Speaker 1: to exactly what access he has, but it certainly has
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  Speaker 1: been publicized that Harry has a relationship with Princess Diana's family.
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  Speaker 2: Again, most of this book is supposed to be about
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  Speaker 2: his sister. And I know they're going to pluck out
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  Speaker 2: the things with the biggest names for excerpts. There might
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  Speaker 2: be five pages dedicated to Charles for all we know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't know. We don't know. And maybe all
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  Speaker 1: the stuff that everyone's looking forward to reading has already
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  Speaker 1: been released. We don't know that. But the stuff about
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  Speaker 1: William and Harry, I think that's– we talk about this often.
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  Speaker 1: And when anything comes up, that is really the biggest–
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  Speaker 1: That's the saddest part about it all, just given Princess
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  Speaker 1: Diana's legacy and this book that is, yes, about her,
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  Speaker 1: about her life, about honoring her legacy. I do think
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  Speaker 1: it's important. He acknowledged he doesn't obviously know exactly what's
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  Speaker 1: going on between William and Harry, but he said this,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know all. I certainly don't know what's been
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  Speaker 1: done in the finer detail. And so I would feel
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  Speaker 1: intrusive if I got more involved than to say, of course,
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  Speaker 1: a mother would want her two sons to be happy
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  Speaker 1: together forever. and love each other. And we've been saying that.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Forever.
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  Speaker 2: And again, the guy has something on his heart that
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  Speaker 2: he wants to get off, and you can't, I don't know, babe,
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  Speaker 2: he feels like he was wronged. He's not wronged by
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  Speaker 2: a prince or by a king, by the guy that
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  Speaker 2: married my sister. It's that simple. As far as, we
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  Speaker 2: can all understand and relate to that. I don't know, babe,
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  Speaker 2: what to feel about, he is going after this guy now. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Why?
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  Speaker 2: Why?
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  Speaker 1: Why?
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  Speaker 2: Could have told that story five years afterwards, immediately after,
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  Speaker 2: 10 years after, 20. Why now? Why?
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  Speaker 1: He actually gave an answer to that, why he wrote it.
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  Speaker 1: He said that he felt, now why he timed it
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  Speaker 1: when he did, we don't know, but he just gave
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  Speaker 1: this answer. He said it was his duty as an
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  Speaker 1: eyewitness to history. And he said, maybe this maybe gives
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  Speaker 1: some sort of an explanation as to his timing and
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  Speaker 1: why now. But this is a quote from Charles Spencer.
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  Speaker 1: He said, I am aware of mortality. and I wanted
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  Speaker 1: just to put things down once and for all that
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  Speaker 1: were true. This is not a threat. It's a fact.
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  Speaker 1: I know lots of things about the king, which I
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  Speaker 1: chose not to include in the book because they were
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  Speaker 1: not relevant. So he's kind of saying, I said some things,
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  Speaker 1: but you wouldn't believe all the stuff I actually know,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm not even going to do that because it
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't be relevant. But basically, it sounded to me like,
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to put the truth out before it's too late.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to set the record straight. It is interesting.
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  Speaker 1: He waited 30 years, but he's saying he's aware of
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  Speaker 1: his own mortality. Look, he's 62. He's not that old
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  Speaker 1: of a man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Is he sick?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. And I never even thought about that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the way he put it, I'm aware of mortality.
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  Speaker 2: Most people aren't talking about that at 62.
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  Speaker 1: They are not.
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  Speaker 2: They are making plans. They are still dealing with grandkids.
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  Speaker 2: They still have trips to take. So I wonder, and
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  Speaker 2: no one anywhere, right, is suggesting that. But the way
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  Speaker 2: he's talking, Robes, that is a better answer as to
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  Speaker 2: why than one I've heard yet. Why now? And yes,
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  Speaker 2: there's kind of a peg to the 30-year anniversary of
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  Speaker 2: her death.
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  Speaker 1: But there was the 10-year anniversary and the 20-year anniversary
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  Speaker 1: and the 25-year anniversary. And he didn't choose to write
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  Speaker 1: anything at any of those points when his memory might
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  Speaker 1: have been fresher or clearer. So you're right. I hadn't
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  Speaker 1: thought about like that, but he is the one who
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  Speaker 1: used the word, I am aware of my mortality. And
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  Speaker 1: I wanted basically to set the record straight. I wanted
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  Speaker 1: the truth to get out there. I wonder. I wonder too.
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  Speaker 1: And yes, this book is going to be snatched up.
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  Speaker 1: by just about everybody and anybody. But when we come back,
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  Speaker 1: the other big headline from what Charles Spencer had to
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  Speaker 1: say was that he talked about being, yes, gaslit by
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  Speaker 1: a king and his biggest regret, what he didn't say
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  Speaker 1: at Princess Diana's eulogy. Welcome back, everyone, to Amy and TJ. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: the bombshell book by Charles Spencer about Princess Diana, his sister-
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  Speaker 1: will be out officially on Tuesday, September 22nd. But he
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  Speaker 1: was still, I know.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I read the whole book already. Right?
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  Speaker 1: And he has managed to keep this book in the
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  Speaker 1: headlines for a week straight. That is not an easy feat.
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  Speaker 1: And he has managed to do it because, yes, every
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  Speaker 1: day we get a new interview, a new excerpt, a
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  Speaker 1: new little bit of information that's inside this book. But
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was really interesting, his response was, to
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  Speaker 1: Buckingham Palace's official statement where they were basically saying that
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  Speaker 1: his grief has clouded his memory and his judgment.
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  Speaker 2: He just doesn't understand because it's fraternal grief that even
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  Speaker 2: years later, you don't even realize, son, what you're going through.
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  Speaker 2: But I as king.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost like a little pity party they were throwing
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  Speaker 1: Charles Spencer.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, do you have it in front of you? That statement? Shit.
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  Speaker 2: It's so good. We're talking about it. It is so
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  Speaker 2: unbelievably condescending and British-ish. And polite and rude as hell.
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  Speaker 2: All at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: It's the best of all.
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  Speaker 2: It's an unbelievable statement. But he's being dismissive almost, Robes.
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  Speaker 2: It was rude. It was mean. You could even argue
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  Speaker 2: to talk about somebody. He lost his sister. The only
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  Speaker 2: thing to say, I'm sorry he still. No, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: Don't say anything. That's the right thing to do. This
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  Speaker 2: is what the palace does all the time. So why
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  Speaker 2: that one? Why answer the princess die insult?
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  Speaker 1: Right? It's so interesting that, and even in the beginning
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  Speaker 1: of their statement, they basically said, well, we don't typically
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  Speaker 1: comment on books, but watch while we do. And that actually,
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  Speaker 1: I think, was so interesting. Well, it's so funny. I
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  Speaker 1: went to the BBC and they have a firewall up,
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  Speaker 1: so of course I couldn't do it. Yes. But I
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  Speaker 1: will get to the actual statement. Here it is. While
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  Speaker 1: we do not comment on books as a matter of principle...
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  Speaker 1: His Majesty is mindful that the pain of fraternal grief
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  Speaker 1: can cloud reason, affect judgment, and color memory in ways
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  Speaker 1: others do not recognize, even many years after such a loss.
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  Speaker 1: That was a huge F.U. to Charles Spencer.
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  Speaker 2: It was, and it just wasn't necessary. Robes, that seemed
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  Speaker 2: more personal than official.
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  Speaker 1: It did.
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  Speaker 2: It didn't seem like it was necessary to respond to that.
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  Speaker 2: That was a....
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  Speaker 1: There's anger behind that.
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  Speaker 2: This is going to sound, it seemed Trumpian in that, dude,
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  Speaker 2: you're the king. You're at the palace. Let it go.
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  Speaker 2: People are talking about you all the time. There's no
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  Speaker 2: reason for this. It's like when the president is watching
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  Speaker 2: MSNBC and just in a moment, he sees one person
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  Speaker 2: say one thing he doesn't like and he hops on
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  Speaker 2: and post something on True Social. Robes, that response seems like,
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  Speaker 2: who insisted on that? It had to be the king
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  Speaker 2: and the king only because it pissed him off.
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  Speaker 1: And they attributed directly to his majesty. So they absolutely
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  Speaker 1: showed who the author was. And to me, it was just,
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  Speaker 1: you could tell the king was triggered. Like literally the
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  Speaker 1: king was triggered.
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  Speaker 2: And the king missed a very important response, Robes, in
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  Speaker 2: that response. You were accused of something. When you are,
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  Speaker 2: and you put out a statement in response, you have
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  Speaker 2: to answer the accusation.
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  Speaker 1: He did not. And that is what Charles Spencer himself noted.
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  Speaker 1: So when his response... To the king's response, I thought
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  Speaker 1: this was pretty fascinating. Charles Spencer said, well, it's not
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  Speaker 1: every day you're gaslit by a king. But I was
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  Speaker 1: really upset with that because I thought it was very
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  Speaker 1: not only condescending, but not straight. What I said is
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  Speaker 1: straight and true. And what did they come back with?
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  Speaker 2: That.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't say he didn't say it either. That's what
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  Speaker 1: I found interesting. I was really shocked, actually. And you
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  Speaker 1: said this from day one when we read the King's
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  Speaker 1: response or the Buckingham Palace statement. You said, wow, they
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  Speaker 1: didn't deny that the King said it. They just threw
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  Speaker 1: into question Charles Spencer's memory. But they didn't say, I
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  Speaker 1: absolutely would never have said that. I didn't say that.
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  Speaker 1: There was no denial.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what you're supposed to say. This is unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: I would never suggest such a thing. And no matter
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  Speaker 2: what has happened, even though we split, this country will
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  Speaker 2: never forget Princess Diana and what she meant to all
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  Speaker 2: of us, including me. I'm sorry he feels that. You
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  Speaker 2: don't have to add the I'm sorry thing. But Robes,
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  Speaker 2: you say that if you, or just shut up.
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  Speaker 1: Or just say nothing, right?
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  Speaker 2: Which is their policy usually.
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  Speaker 1: And there's a reason why. And we can see, I
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  Speaker 1: was wondering if Buckingham Palace, if King Charles regrets in
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  Speaker 1: any way, shape or form putting out that statement. You
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  Speaker 1: think so?
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  Speaker 2: If he had a true social account. He would be
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  Speaker 2: going off every day, every time the dude releases something.
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  Speaker 2: But he doesn't have that. You get one shot to
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  Speaker 2: do it. Did they not know more was coming? Because
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  Speaker 2: they need to give a response now. They got tricked
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  Speaker 2: into responding after the first tidbit. This is well done
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  Speaker 2: PR by Spencer and his team. We give them something
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  Speaker 2: short and really shocking. Let them simmer on that for
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  Speaker 2: 48 hours, and then every day, boom, we hit them
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  Speaker 2: with something new. Boom, boom, interview, interview, print interview, TV interview,
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  Speaker 2: American print, American TV, British TV, British print. They're everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: Road with this guy.
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  Speaker 1: It's true. There are not many books that could garner
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  Speaker 1: this many international headlines. that just continued day after day,
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  Speaker 1: and yet he has managed to do so. I also
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  Speaker 1: thought it was interesting, and this is something that's in
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  Speaker 1: the book too. He said he has one regret from
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  Speaker 1: the eulogy that he gave on his sister, and he
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  Speaker 1: said it was not mentioning Dodi Fayed. I did not
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  Speaker 1: see that one coming. I think any of us who
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  Speaker 1: were alive during that time know and know that name.
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  Speaker 1: Dodi Fayed was, of course, killed alongside Princess Diana in
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  Speaker 1: that Paris tunnel. And the driver, Henri Paul, also was killed,
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  Speaker 1: by the way. But he says he just he didn't
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  Speaker 1: mention him because he considered he really considered him not
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  Speaker 1: an integral part of her life. I don't think any
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  Speaker 1: of us really knew what their relationship was. But apparently
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  Speaker 1: in the book, Charles Spencer goes into their relationship and
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  Speaker 1: he described it as a fling, as a relationship he
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  Speaker 1: believed Diana was having to make someone else jealous, who
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  Speaker 1: she was actually in love with. But he did praise
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  Speaker 1: Dodi Fayed in the book for being kind to his sister.
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  Speaker 1: And he said that he showed her gentle playfulness, that
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  Speaker 1: he was a decent human being and he wished that
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: he had Paid a little more homage to him in
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: the eulogy. And look, a lot of different people have
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: gone back and forth about whether or not Dodi Fayed
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: and Princess Diana were serious. Were they on their way
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: to getting married?
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: They were dating, were they not?
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, they were dating. But Charles Spencer made it very
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: clear that he did not believe it was anything serious
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: at all. But again, felt bad that he did not
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: include him. He said he had him included in an
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: earlier draft in the eulogy and then just decided... right
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: before he gave the speech, not to include Dodi Fayed,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: and he wishes he could have now. So I thought
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: that was interesting. And look, who knows what else is
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: between those pages that we'll find fascinating, but I doubt
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: the headlines are over tomorrow. We'll probably get another round
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: as journalists go through the pages, but this is going
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: to be a big deal. Swan Song, Diana, my sister,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: out on September 22nd, and I bet that day can't
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: come soon enough for Buckingham Palace.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Will they have to put out another statement?
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think they may have learned their
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: lesson perhaps the hard way.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: They might be embarrassed to do so now. Let's read
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: this thing and then we'll put out one big whoop-de-doo.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Right, but especially seeing how the first statement started with
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: we don't normally comment on books. and then they commented,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: to put out a second statement would really fly in
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: the face of that.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: The next statement should start the same way. We don't
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: usually comment on books, but this mother is pushing it, okay? Charles, okay,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Charles Spencer, you are asking for it.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Enough is enough.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm okay with that.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: All right, well, we will let you know if any
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: other headlines start percolating on this one, but we always
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: appreciate you listening to us, everyone. I'm Amy Robach, alongside
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: TJ Holmes. We'll talk soon.