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Islamist rams Pride, white men to blame (plus bonus Janice) · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Okay, and we're live. Hello everybody, and welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: this is maintaining frame. Islamis rams, Pride, White men to blame,
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  Speaker 1: plus Bonus janis where we're gonna be. Well, it's a
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  Speaker 1: split show. We're gonna be talking about two different videos,
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  Speaker 1: pieces of media elections. Yeah, two different examples or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: and we're gonna be responding to them. And I just
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  Speaker 1: want to make sure everything else. Yeah, it looks like
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  Speaker 1: everything else is fine. I was looking for something, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't see any issues here. So yeah, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be looking at a couple of things. You guys probably
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  Speaker 1: heard about the mass vehicle attack that happened the latest
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  Speaker 1: maximum overdrive incident. We're a van just came to life
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  Speaker 1: and attacked a bunch of people at a Berlin Pride event.
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  Speaker 1: Turns out a guy was driving this van, so but
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  Speaker 1: you know, we didn't hear about it until a little
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  Speaker 1: bit later. He was Abdul ball Out, a twenty one
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  Speaker 1: year old German of Lebanese heritage with prior terror convictions.
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  Speaker 1: He killed one person and injured twenty nine during this
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  Speaker 1: Tier Garden parade, and despite the fact that the guy
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  Speaker 1: who did this, well, I won't give anything away, but
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  Speaker 1: there are there are women with opinions on this, and
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  Speaker 1: we are certainly blessed to have them, because they are
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  Speaker 1: of course going to give us the hottest of takes
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  Speaker 1: regarding this, Yes, unfortunate.
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  Speaker 2: The hottest and most hilarious of takes. I mean also
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  Speaker 2: like cringe worthy. But it's a pot pori of delightful
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  Speaker 1: is that fair?
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  Speaker 1: Get into it, all right, So what do you want
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  Speaker 2: with the the the Van Life guy.
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  Speaker 1: The oh the okay, so the x X post right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's the ban Deak guy. I suppose it's
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  Speaker 2: a better way of putting it in.
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  Speaker 1: So this is it right here, I'm sharing my screen
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  Speaker 1: so you see it.
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  Speaker 2: Just let me go in. Yes, I'm going in. I'm
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  Speaker 2: going in. I have so many tabs like.
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  Speaker 1: And it's in discord. I'm sharing my it's in discord.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know. I how to navigate through
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  Speaker 2: my computer. All right, I'm in, I'm in. Let's do
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  Speaker 2: it all right.
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  Speaker 1: So this is ex post shared by Ali London of
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  Speaker 1: Ali London TV. And well, I'll let the video speak
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  Speaker 1: for itself. So this has to do in the wake
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  Speaker 1: of the Berlin Pride van attack that was committed by
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  Speaker 1: an Islamist terrorist. Let's listen.
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  Speaker 3: I'm getting really, really sick of this. I'm getting really
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  Speaker 3: tired of having to repeat myself over and over again.
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  Speaker 3: So today in Berlin there was an attack. A van
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  Speaker 3: drove through a crowd of people celebrating Berlin Pride parade
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  Speaker 3: that they have every year.
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  Speaker 4: It's a huge parade, it's one of the biggest.
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  Speaker 3: And they injured. I think at this time i'm making
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  Speaker 3: this video is a subject to change. Seventeen people and
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  Speaker 3: one person is dead. Okay, so it's it's a breaking story.
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  Speaker 3: There are going to be things that are going to
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  Speaker 3: come out and change throughout the life of the story,
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  Speaker 3: you know. Average So this aspect is an Islamic extreme.
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  Speaker 3: That's their suspect right now. That's what I read.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to say anything about the rest of
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  Speaker 3: the Muslim population because of actions of this one person.
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  Speaker 3: But what I can say is the people who were
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  Speaker 3: celebrating about this, we're all white men, young white men
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  Speaker 3: with process and their profiles. Because we've all seen it.
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  Speaker 3: We've all seen how you guys react towards gay people
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  Speaker 3: and how you wish harm on them constantly, I get it,
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  Speaker 3: constant hate.
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  Speaker 2: Is there have any evidence?
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  Speaker 1: Not that I know of. I think I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't seen it. The only thing is
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  Speaker 1: just like a is this a womanism?
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  Speaker 2: Like she's like, well, you guys, uh speak out against
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  Speaker 2: homosexual lifestyle, therefore you advocate for the unaliving of homosexuals,
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  Speaker 2: Like just just she just fantasizes this, Like where is
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  Speaker 2: the proof? Is there any? Did she not present them?
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  Speaker 1: Like even quote, no, no, she doesn't have to. She
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have to. Like I said, I don't. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know for sure if there were no men celebrating this.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's the world. There's probably some somewhere,
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  Speaker 1: and I mean Christian men, because that's who she's going after,
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  Speaker 1: as white Christian men. Even though this is clearly an
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  Speaker 1: Islamic attack, and there are likely Islamists that are happy
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  Speaker 1: that this happened. But if anything, if anything, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: not even sure that this is coming. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: this is coming from a place of schadenfreude for the
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  Speaker 1: people who were injured or killed in this attack. But
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  Speaker 1: if anything, there might have been a let's say, a
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  Speaker 1: knowingness to the results. So it's sort of like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you have a country it's going in the wrong direction,
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  Speaker 1: Like they're letting in a bunch of strangers that don't
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  Speaker 1: respect their culture and they're just there to colonize them.
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  Speaker 1: They're there to basically take over, you know, not by
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  Speaker 1: the sword, by the womb. This has all been said
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  Speaker 1: many times, it's well documented, and it's been growing slowly
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  Speaker 1: in Europe for a while now. And there have been
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  Speaker 1: other vehicular attacks because they ban guns, so there are
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  Speaker 1: knife attacks, there are van attacks, there's other acid attacks. Whatever.
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  Speaker 1: These things are happening. And I think that, if anything,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm being as charitable to her as possible, there
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  Speaker 1: might be some people men who are looking at that
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  Speaker 1: and they're just saying, I told you so, Like this
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  Speaker 1: is what happens when you let these people in who
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  Speaker 1: are incompatible with you culturally. This is what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: But it's not a celebration, it's not happiness. It's more
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  Speaker 1: of a how do I put it, It's like a
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  Speaker 1: you see, it's kind of like a told and I
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  Speaker 1: told you so. Thing she is If that's even the case,
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  Speaker 1: which I don't I don't know. I don't think it's widespread.
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  Speaker 1: I think that there's a lot of, if anything, you know,
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  Speaker 1: sympathy for the people of Germany like that their countries
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  Speaker 1: in the state that it's in. But that's if I'm
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  Speaker 1: being extremely charitable. I don't think there were men. They're
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  Speaker 1: just they're just people saying, you know, you were warned
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  Speaker 1: about this, that this was going to happen, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: people in Germany, France, Italy, they just spain, they just
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  Speaker 1: didn't care. They're just like, no, we're doing it because
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  Speaker 1: we're good people and we believe the good things, so
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna keep on going with this. And then these
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  Speaker 1: things happen and people are like just looking like, well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I told you this was gonna happen. That's
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  Speaker 1: not the same as taking pleasure in it, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, yep, should you finish it? Or is that done?
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  Speaker 1: No, it's almost over. It's like twenty seconds left. So
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  Speaker 1: she's saying, I'll just go back a little bit. We'll
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  Speaker 1: play it for some more contexts in it.
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  Speaker 3: We've all seen how you guys react towards gay people
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  Speaker 3: and how you wish harm on them constantly. I get it,
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  Speaker 3: constant hate on my videos, especially about trans people. We're
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  Speaker 3: not going to hide behind another scapegoat group and pretend
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  Speaker 3: that they're actually the violent ones when it's you. You
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  Speaker 3: hold the same exact beliefs for this man who did
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  Speaker 3: this attack dead, and you're trying to distance yourself from it,
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  Speaker 3: and you know why you're trying to do that because
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  Speaker 3: you're ashamed, and you should be.
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  Speaker 5: I'm getting so.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're I'm ashamed.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, who who is? Who is the who is the
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  Speaker 2: specific group that she's calling out? White male Christians.
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  Speaker 1: White white men, white Christian men. Yeah, because she said
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  Speaker 1: with crosses in their bios, So I imagine it's.
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  Speaker 2: It's white men. I presume that the white men were
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  Speaker 2: the ones who ended this. This individual's continue, you know,
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  Speaker 2: for potential future campaigns against the lgbt T community, because
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  Speaker 2: he was shot in Berlin, right pol presumably men, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: face it, they shot and hit him. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: think the probability there were men was quite high. But
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  Speaker 2: so this guy engaged in violence, and you know what,
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  Speaker 2: I don't even have to do. White men men were
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  Speaker 2: what probably the ones because when she says white men,
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  Speaker 2: she's just using white is a way to emphasize men,
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  Speaker 2: you know that, Right, It's like, I'm going to put
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  Speaker 2: this these this individual in the category where he has
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  Speaker 2: no intersectional qualifiers to soften my condemnation of him, because
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  Speaker 2: she's probably also someone who believes the whole black men
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  Speaker 2: or the white men of black people and gay men
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  Speaker 2: are the white men of gay people, and uh you know,
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  Speaker 2: uh so and so on, So she just means men.
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  Speaker 2: And the other thing is that she doesn't underst doesn't
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  Speaker 2: seem to understand the difference between a person who believes
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  Speaker 2: others have the right to do or to be wrong,
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  Speaker 2: but not do wrong. So there could be Christians who
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  Speaker 2: think that pride is a mess a sin, and yet
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  Speaker 2: would consider running people over in pride to probably be
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  Speaker 2: a greater sin, yes, right, and would endeavor to stop
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  Speaker 2: the second while trying to encourage the first to maybe
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  Speaker 2: develop better coping skills, shall we say, right, And would
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  Speaker 2: they would condemn the first without actually wanting to engage
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  Speaker 2: in any kind of violence. That's there's a difference there. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: people would have the right to do wrong or sort
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  Speaker 2: of be wrong. They do not have the right to
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  Speaker 2: do wrong. And I don't think she understands that difference,
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  Speaker 2: that you can disagree with someone while still upholding their
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  Speaker 2: basic civilian rights as a member of the society which
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  Speaker 2: you belong to, Like, there's a difference there. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think she's aware of that, and that what we're talking
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  Speaker 2: about is an individual who is part of an ideology
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  Speaker 2: that doesn't believe in that that he believes that if
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  Speaker 2: you disagree with him, you are in fact eligible to
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  Speaker 2: be given a ticket to the other side, shall we say,
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  Speaker 2: And that's a categorically different arrangement of morality. And of
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  Speaker 2: course she doesn't recognize that. She just thinks that if
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  Speaker 2: somebody disagrees with someone, that is equivalent to another person
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  Speaker 2: wanting to unlive them for their beliefs.
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  Speaker 1: So this is just wanting to but actually going through
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  Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, you just want to do it. He
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  Speaker 1: did it? Call him whatever, Yeah, but don't call him
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  Speaker 1: somebody who accepts half measures.
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  Speaker 2: He went in, Yeah, yeah, he went in and he
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  Speaker 2: got that bag as it were. But yeah, So she's
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  Speaker 2: making this false equivalence, and I would I honestly say
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  Speaker 2: that's because she her brain hasn't matured to the point
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  Speaker 2: where she understands the difference between signaling a position and
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  Speaker 2: embracing a standard of ethical behavior. So she just she
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  Speaker 2: thinks that Christians who would never kill anyone, and in fact,
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  Speaker 2: astoundingly many times when they are subject to violence, they
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  Speaker 2: seem to be like, I'm turning the other cheek and
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  Speaker 2: forgiving the person who did this to my family. And
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  Speaker 2: so they have an ethic of care and and forgiveness,
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  Speaker 2: and they judge people based on their actions. And they
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  Speaker 2: may have an opinion about homosexuality or trans people, but
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  Speaker 2: they're not going to go out and murderize them for it.
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  Speaker 2: And she's judging them the same because in a superficicial,
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  Speaker 2: superficial sense, they have sort of the same beliefs, like
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  Speaker 2: the same condemnation of lgbt Q plus mm hmm. Yeah, Like,
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  Speaker 2: how do you how do you explain to this person
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  Speaker 2: that there's a whole dimension of thought that they are
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  Speaker 2: incapable of accessing. Mm hmm, Like how do.
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  Speaker 1: You how do you flat lander?
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  Speaker 2: There is another there's a third dimension you know?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you never see it. You live in the
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  Speaker 1: two D dimension. You can't see the three D dimension. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: you can read it, you know, Uh, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: War and peace to your dog, But that doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna follow. They're gonna get it. So they they might.
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  Speaker 1: They they'll like the way you sound, they'll watch you, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: they'll maintain eye contact, but they won't know what you're saying,
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  Speaker 1: like it's just noises to them.
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  Speaker 2: Well I think it conveys meaning, but yeah, I get
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  Speaker 2: your yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but even that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it conveys a tonal meaning. And they'll like the attention,
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  Speaker 2: but they just won't be able to picture the dimension
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  Speaker 2: that you're opening up with your words. I think that's
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  Speaker 2: sort of what we're dealing with here. She's just she
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  Speaker 2: she's in a place where the symbol of the thing
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  Speaker 2: is the thing. Probably slap a waterline test down in
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  Speaker 2: front of this girl and she would not be able
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  Speaker 2: to pass it. So yeah, that's uh. And then the
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  Speaker 2: other thing I want to point out is now she's
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  Speaker 2: making the equation between Christians who would never do something
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  Speaker 2: like this despite disagreeing with the who knows might just
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  Speaker 2: be pride itself or the entire concept 're considering it
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  Speaker 2: a sin, right, And she's making this equation because they
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  Speaker 2: have they they don't agree with pride. Because she cannot
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  Speaker 2: see the content of the actions she just sees the
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  Speaker 2: content of what they're signaling in terms of virtue.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And the other thing is that she doesn't condemn,
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  Speaker 2: like she's using a situation where these individuals are going
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  Speaker 2: to be targeted by this particular violent ideology and they
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  Speaker 2: are like they have been in the past, and they
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  Speaker 2: you know, like the people on the left will trot
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  Speaker 2: out the whole right wing extremism. You know that right
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  Speaker 2: wing extremism also includes Islamic extremism.
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  Speaker 1: If you consider yeah, socially conservative. Yes, in fact, it's
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: like they're probably much further down that road.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, like because because again, they don't have that
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: concept of a civil society and you can disagree without
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: while still supporting another person's civil rights or I mean,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying they blanket don't have that, but definitely
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Lamas don't buy into that. But the other thing is
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: that she's not just trying to say that Christians and
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: the Islamis are identical, even though they are completely different
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: in the actions that they take in order to advance
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: what they believe. She's also she's also essentially saying that
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: men are hiding behind quote unquote scapegoat group to avoid
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: being labeled as generally violent. So what that means is
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: this guy didn't do this because he's a Islamist. He
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: did it because he's a man. Do you get what
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I'm saying?
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: And then if then if men are like, hey, this
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: guy's got a violent ideology, She's like, no, well, yes,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: that violent ideology is masculinity, So renunciate your manhood.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But but Allison, have you have you how about
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: have you tried their food? Have you had the kebabs?
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Because yes, I mean, like, you know what, it's probably
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: worth it to have a van drive through a crowd
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: every once in a while as long as I can
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: get my hands on some of those kebabs. I'm just
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: saying they're delicious. It's worth it. I'm joking, but not really.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: I'm just referring to their typical arguments. Also, note, I
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: just want to point out real quick wi She says,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: if you want to listen, we could listen back to it.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: She literally says that she knows who the person is
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: that committed this terrible, heinous crime. She knows that that
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: person is an Islamic extreamist and basically a terrorist. And
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: she says, I'm not going to judge an entire group
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: of people, i e. Muslims, based on that one guy's actions.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: But allow me to judge an entire group of people
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: men based on this guy's actions. So you want to
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: hear that again because she said, Okay, let's listen. Listen.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: I'm getting really really sick of this. I'm getting really
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: tired of having to repeat myself over and over again.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: So today I'm in Berlin. There was an attack.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: A van drove through a crowd of people celebrating Berlin Pride.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: Parade that they have every year. It's a huge parade,
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: it's one of the biggest, and they injured.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: I think, at this time i'm making this video is
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: a subject to change, so real quick.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: She's got a dog. You can hear it panting. It's
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: a big dog. I wonder if she's dog killed. Okay,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: let's keep going to think about But.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, she looks like she's probably a teenager.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: She looks really young.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: But I think, at this time i'm making this video
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: is a subject to change. Seventeen people and one person
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: is dead. Okay, so it's it's a breaking story. There
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: are going to be things that are going to come
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: out and change throughout the life of the story, you know, average,
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: So the suspect is an Islamic extremist.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: That's their suspect, right now, That's what I read.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not going to say anything about the rest
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: of the Muslim population because of actions of this one person.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: But what I can say is the people who we're
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: celebrating about this, we're all white men, young white men.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: Okay's right, you're right by it.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to I'm not going.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Because it doesn't it doesn't as like a verboat in
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: generalization when you're talking about men. Yeah, go ahead, but
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: you're absolutely raw.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: And again, white men is just it's just like saying man, man.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: It's just it's just it's actually redundant. You can just
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: say man, man because as you know, yeah, man cube,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: as we know, whiteness is actually masculinity. We went through it.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Remember this smith I think was the Smithsonian uh infullographic. Yeah,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: and we're just reading this and it's like, yeah, you've
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: you've just essentially said that why whiteness is masculine, traditional masculinity. Fantastic.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: I'm sure, I'm sure black men love that that preth
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: but anyway, So it is just man cube. So she's saying,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: she's saying, Okay, she's not going to judge Muslims by
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: this islamist Okay, fair enough, fair enough, But she is
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: going to judge white men by a bunch of trollsters
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: on Twitter at best, like at at best, that's what
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: she's talking about.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: And what those guys did on X is obviously worse
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: than driving a vanage and.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: More judgment worthy, more judgment worthy. So we have gone
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: using her I don't want to use the word logic,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: but her thought movements, her her thought movements. We have
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: gone from an Islamist man killing lgbt Q plus during
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: a pie parade at least one and injuring two white
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: men being responsible, to just men being responsible. Let's be honest,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: all right, we've we've just and we can't. We cannot
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: condemn the Muslim community fair enough, but we can condemn
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: white men for the actions of this Islamist man. I
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: think that, I I think, honestly, what when you understand
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: that what she actually means is that the thing that
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: caused him to be violence was his violent, was his masculinity,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: and that the men who are condemning him also have it.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: So she's saying, how can you do that? Then it
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: makes a lot more sense, right, She literally thinks that
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: men cannot differentiate themselves based on their actions. So men
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: who just tweet something are equally bad or worse worse
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: than this dude because they virtue signal the same thing
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: or so they signal the same attitudes that he has.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: And everything is about the symbol, not the thing. Everything
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: is about the signal, not the thing, not the action taken.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: So they're just as bad. And also his violence is
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: their violence, because it's the violence of being a man.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: So it all makes for consense now to me. And
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: that a man cannot differentiate himself from other men via
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: his actions. So if you, if you, Brian, say, oh,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: these guys who are on Twitter tweeting, are not taking
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: the same action as this other man who's engaging in
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: lethal violence. Right, you can't do that because that is
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: differentiating men based on their actions or the content of
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: their character, and that's not allowed. So, if you are
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: a man, all you have available to you to differentiate
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: yourself from other men is to take responsibility for the
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: violence of masculinity and renunciate your manhood. You see what
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. That's it. You can't. You can't defend women,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: right because if you, well, I mean you, you are
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: supposed to defend women. You are supposed to protect women.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: But as you do so, you have to say, as
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: a man, I am no better than the men who
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I am protecting women from, and I in fact received
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: benefit from his violence towards women, even though I am
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: sacrificing my life and health and maybe getting stabbed or
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: shot or injured in order to protect women. I am
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: the ultimate beneficiary of this man's violence. And then you're
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: a good man. But the but the actions are irrelevant.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: They're like, like the fact that you would defend a
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: woman or defend these people from this guy's violence, the uh,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: the police that actually prevented him from continuing this. You know,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: that's that's irrelevant. That's not relevant to your goodness because
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: that's actions. That's that's operative thought. You're not allowed to
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: do that. You can only renunciate that makes you a
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: good man, renunciate your masculinity. Yeah, it's uh, it it
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: it uh. It's a crazy belief system, and but it's
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: also quite hilarious. You did you did pick that out though,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: that was a good one. I appreciate that.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you. Yeah, I mean I caught it right away,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: all right, So I got a super chow and a
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: rumble ram. I'm want to just read them really quick.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: The official reverse Traditionalism channel on YouTube gives us five
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: dollars and says, why do feminists pretend women started working
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventies when the term spinster literally refers
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: to a woman with a job.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Do you want to take that because it's convenient?
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: No, no, I don't have a problem with you sending
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: these questions through, but they're basically all of the same
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: form of this obviously thing is obviously wrong. Why do
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: feminists assert it because they can because it supports their position,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: because actual reality doesn't matter. Like this, again, this woman
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: is saying that men tweeting is equivalent or worse, no,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: not even equivalent, worse than this man engaging in violence, right,
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: and from that you understand exactly what her life is
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: like if she can draw equivalence between someone tweeting something
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: mean and someone rhymming into a crowd with a van
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: injuring twenty nine people and killing one and probably traumatizing
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: a whole bunch of other people, like if she can't
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: tell the difference, then she has no source of any
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: kind of survival threat or stress or trauma in her life,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: because once you have, it becomes a lot more difficult
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: to assert that those things that tweeting is worse. But
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: what she's essentially saying is that her prerogative for judging
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: people is more important than keeping people alive, which incidentally
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: forecloses her position for judging people right, So she doesn't
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: have an understanding or she does. Reality only exists in
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: so far as it supports her assertion. Where reality differs
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: from her beliefs, reality must change, right, not her beliefs,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: So her thinking never reaches her thought movement never reaches
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: the substrate. And that's the only explanation for how anyone
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: could possibly assert the idea that men on Twitter are
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: doing anything in the same ballpark, in the same universe
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: as someone d driving a van into a crowd of people.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: And that's one is more culpable than the other. This
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: is this is basically toxic relational web thinking. I'll just
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: lay it out there. It's it's it's terminal relational web thinking.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: And feminists assert that because that's basically their only thinking,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Like the entire history of feminist academia. I don't like
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: using that word feminist, Karen, Right, The entire history is
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: the history, just I'm greeting all of this stuff, right.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: So it starts with the Red Stockings Manifesto, which basically
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: is the originator of all the concepts that feminists have
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: in play now. So every single feminist today they use
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: the term male pre male privileged, patriarchy, supremacy, all of that.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: That's that's radfem. That is a radfemin inheritance. Right. So
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: you start with the Red Stockings pretty much can ignore
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: the sixty six now declaration because they didn't they didn't win.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: And then you go through all of the arguments between
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: the Radfems, the psychoanalytic feminism, the Marxist feminism, and which
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: ends up being resolved by everyone agreeing that they don't
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: need their concepts to relate to anything in reality. They
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: don't need to prove anything. They just use standpoint theory
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: to say that women's way of knowing, meaning we don't
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: need to prove anything. You're basically watching the relational web
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: lift off the substrate, you know, the wallabies justifying patriarchy
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: by creating six self citing assertions that don't ever none
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: of them are proven, but they feel they feel like
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: they're right because it's sort of like a web of assertions,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: and webs are a form of actual evidence because they're
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: so webby, and Walby's web is just that that's the proof,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: all the proof we need. So you're watching this relational
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: web just just elevate, just levitate itself off of any
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: expectation of touching grasp right, And I'm just watching, I'm
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: reading through all of these and just watching this process
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: of the relational web detaching from reality. And that's basically
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: the feminist feminist conjecture in a nutshell, the history of
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: feminist conjecture in a nutshell. And then from that you
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: go to, yeah, this is how we're gonna treat men's
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: mental health issues, and by that point you've just lost
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: all faith in humanity, all right. So that's that's basically
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: what it is. It's just relation, toxic relational web thinking,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: just lifted from reality, no need to reference anything that
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: actually exists, any proportionality, any actions, any evidence, any historical facts, nothing.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: It's just self justifying, a self justifying infinite grievance. Loop.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let me ask the audience, because I
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: think official reverse trad doesn't. I don't know if you
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: just don't understand. So I want to see if the
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: audience understands if you were talking to a feminist and
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: you made like the most rock solid, inescapable argument for anything.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Let's let's just take the Spinster thing as an exam
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: where you just confronted a woman and said, do you
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: realize that in you know that that women have been
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: working like they've always been working, and so Spencer, you know,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: is refers to something much older than when women were working.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: How many of you guys think that if feminists would
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: hear that and say, oh my god, I had no idea.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: You're completely right. I'm going to change my ways now
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: and I'm going to reevaluate every position I've ever held,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: and I'm going to humble myself and really think long
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: and hard about all of the stuff that I have
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: believed and said in my life to this point. Do
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: you think that that would happen if you just made
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: a really good argument. I just want to know, all right, so,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: and thank you for the super child though official revtrad,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not attacking you I'm just I'm just letting you know.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe you're new, but in my opinion,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: like having the best arguments on earth doesn't change any
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: minds because these people are They are not logical. They
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: are zealous. That's what it is. Okay, this is a
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: faith based belief and has nothing to do with measurable reality.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: But anyway, M. B Iverson gave us a rumble rant
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: and said this is for five dollars. Thank you. M.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: B Iverson and says she belongs to an ideology that
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: also believes that people who disagree with her should be harmed.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: That's why I leftist people defend it so viciously. Yeah,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I think if like men were killed in that attack,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think she would have a video out. I mean,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: there were probably men who were hurt because it was
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: a Pride event, but that doesn't seem to register. It
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: might have even been mostly men at the Pride event.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Might have been, but that doesn't matter because the victims
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: are just victims. They're not men. Okay. Only the perpetrators
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: are men, or the people who have stood idly by
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: and allowed it to happen are men. Richard Bierre gives
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: us five dollars a super chow and says, recalling the
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: teenager girl who traveled from the UK to become an
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Isis bride to make babies for the cause. She tried
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: to return after she found out that it wasn't as
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: fun and glorious as she had thought it would be.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: I remember that her UK citizenship was stripped from her
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: and her father was advocating for her to be allowed
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: to return to the United Kingdom. I don't recall if
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: she was eventually allowed back or not. I know about
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: that story. I remember it, but I don't know how
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: that turned out either. And then there was a super
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: rumble rant from nova fan for a dollar and he says,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: hot take if she feels more worried about Christians, white people, men, etc.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Than extreme Muslims, that I think she should become even
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: more scared of the white man winkie face. She probably
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: is mostly scared. But then again, who's to say, because
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff could just be her on
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: social media, her social media presence, and she's saying what
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: she has to say to get the most support, So
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: it could be that too. All right, Alison, are you
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: there or you're fighting with the mute button or something,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: because you've been super quiet.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: No, I'm just being quiet. Oh yeah, you're like, are
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: you dead? Poker with the stick? She's not speaking, she's
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: not trying to speak. I'm trying to be disciplined because
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Iggy thunders has has spent a couple of weeks or
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: a couple of comments calling me out for not letting
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: you speak. All right, So I'm gonna apply the threat
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: narrative framework to this. The role so as if you
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: don't know what the threat narrative is, it's a process
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: of demonizing a group of people by amplifying their agency
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: and bad intent and and also their their guilt. All right,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: So the roles of this threat narrative, So the narrator
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: is the speaker. Of course, she's the one spinning the
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: threat narrative. The target is young white men with crosses
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: on their profiles, you guys. And when she says that
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: young white men crosses, what she should read is just
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: men cubed, just men. She's just trying to slice out
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: all of the potential softening intersectional factors that a man
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: might use to defend himself, all right. So she constructs
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: that mid clip and her audiences of course her viewers
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: and the in group out group binary boundary is drawn
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: explicitly at fifty seconds, in which I think Brian identified. Okay,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: so the disclaimer is symmetry. At forty seconds, she states
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: the standard individuation principle for the group She's actually implicated
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: by the day's attack. I'm not going to say anything
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: about the rest of the Muslim population because of the
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: actions of this one person. Ten seconds later, she does
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: the reverse operation on a different group with no connection
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: to the attack. You hold the same exact beliefs that
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: this man who did this attack did the same Speaker
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: demonstrates back to back that she has the individuation principle
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: available and chooses not to apply it to the second group.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: That's not any consistency to infer its stated in sequence
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: on tape. So even punished Claude recognize that maneuver. Brian
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Punished Claude agrees with you. Hyper agency borgification. The targets
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: group's violent disposition is established by two proxies profile picture
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: icnography crosses and her own comments section experience I get
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: constant hate on my videos. Neither is a measure of
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: the demographic. Both are convenience samples, people who comment on
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: our videos generalized to a population, then equated with a name,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: terrorist specific ideology. Right, that's the whole sequence. Right, These
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: men who are tweeting have the same and that's actually
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: really what's going on. So she's constructing this kind of
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: relational web kimara. Right, what she wants to implicate are men.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: But how does she implicate men? Because this is their
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: their great maneuver, guys, it's always men need to renunciate
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: their masculinity, their manhood. But how does she implicate men? Well,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: she has to assemble a kimara. So first she says,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: white guys, right, you're just as violent, and how do
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: you do that? How do you how do you assemble
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: the kamara? She has to add in men with crosses
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: on their profiles, so that she's pulling in that group
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: because that group overlaps with people who may condemn or
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: criticize the LGBTQ movement. Right, So that's how she pulls
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: in guilt there, and then she pulls in hatred to
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: herself so that the villain becomes men and the victim
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: becomes her. I don't know if you notice that, guys,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: that that that this is about her asserting her victory
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: hood and casting men in the role of villain. She
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: describes how these comments target her because she's apparently LGBTQ
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: plus or something, so she's making herself out to be
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: the victim. Men are, of course always the villain group,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: and this is how she acquires the villainous Kimara men
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: with crosses, white men with crosses in their bio. She
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: uses white specifically to foreclose any kind of appeal to
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: intersectional defense in a man. Then she uses the crosses
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: to pull in the ideology that she needs to condemn,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: and then she uses the oh, these are the commentators
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: in my own videos attacking me and throwing hate on
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: me to make herself the victim. That's what she's doing.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Do these things actually connect, Probably not honestly, Maybe in
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: her mind, But again, there's no evidence. She doesn't give
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: evidence of the men with crosses cheering for this man
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: or well that was specifically the heinous thing. She doesn't
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: give evidence of whatever patriots she says she gets. There's
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: no evidence here. It's all just pulling abstractions together to
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: construct a stambol of villainry villainy. All right, So hyper
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: agency borgification. The cargate group's violent disposition is established by
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: two proxies profile fit, picture iconography, crosses, and her own
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: comment section experience I get constant hate on my videos.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Neither is a measure of the demographic. Both are convenience
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: samples people who comment on her videos generalized to a population,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: then equated with a named, terror specific ideology. I'd already
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: read this. Apologies, guys, deconstruction as construction. You're not going
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: to hide behind another scapegoat group and pretend that they're
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: actually the violent ones when it's you. Preemps the individuation
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: argument which she just gave to Muslims by recasting it
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: as bad faith deflection before it can be made. The
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: framework's diagnostic move raising the distinction is treated as the crime,
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: not as a claim to be evaluated. So she's going
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: to say we can't condemn the Muslim community fair enough
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: and dividuation. But at the same breath she uses the
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: thing that would be used to condemn the muslim In
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: community to condemn Christian men with crosses in their bios,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: and then forecloses those men saying, hey, what are you doing?
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: I had nothing to do with this. By saying, well,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: that's just that, that's proof. That's even more proof of
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: your guilt. Your professions of innocence are even more proof
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: of your guilt. Like I said, every road leads to
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: men just renunciating themselves. The target is offered exactly two positions.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Villain secretly holds the attackers belief, or the coward who
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: hides and distances. No third option individual with no relation
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: to the attack is available. In the frame is constructed hatred, obsession,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: inverted valance because you're ashamed and you should be assigns
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: a deserved guilt to the target class directly closing the
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: segment on the frame, rather than on any claim about
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: the actual attacker. So that's how she basically lands on
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: I'm a victim. I'm a victim of this situation, guys,
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: I'm the real victim. And men are are bad unless
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: they renunciate themselves unless and they're still bad. But you know,
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: you're just always bad. Don't expect any thanks, don't think.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Don't expect any thanks for for for what is it.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Don't expect any thanks for repenting of your sin. Men.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: And and again, what's really interesting is that she holds
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: the same kind of why don't I want to say
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: the same kind her idea of sin Because she has
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: an idea of sin, she has beliefs about sin, then
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: is attributed to people based on their biological categories rather
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: than their actions. Right now, whatever wherever you are with
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Christians condemning the LGBTQ lifestyle or criticizing it, you know,
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: at least you could say that there's a way of
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: getting out of that category, right But there's no way
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: to get out of the category of being a man
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: none whatsoever. And in fact, a lot of what's coming
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: out of the psychology of men and masculinities sounds more
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: like conversion therapy than anything else. That you're the only
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: way a man can have peace is by renunciating anything
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: that he shares with other men, renunciating his masculinity and
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: just declaring his sinful nature. And he will never find peace.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: He'll just have to keep renunciating it over and over again.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: And that's the only way he can feel that he
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: is a good man, is by renunciating his masculinity and
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: his connection to other men and encouraging other men to
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: do the same. The endless struggle session. All right, let's uh.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: I got a couple more. Yeah, I got a couple
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: more paid comments. I'm just gonna read those.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: So I got a super Child from Albatross for five
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: and he says, I have seen a few mocking comments,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: but I think it's more about showing people the cognitive
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: dissonance of the queer slash activists community, not realizing that
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: the Muslim community, he obviously doesn't like them, and that
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: multiculturalism is hurting them. Yeah. Well it's strange bedfellows. I mean,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: I understand them, but yeah, sometimes it's gonna bite them
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: in the behind as it were. Thank you for that.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: A Nova fan gave a dollar and says, naive black
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: and brown men watching the video, see guys, we're safe.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: They're only targeting white men, black and brown people who
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: don't vote Democrat. Allow us to introduce ourselves. And then
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: I got a super child from Richard Pierre for five
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: and he says, the surname Webster was a description of
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: a female weaver, and the surname Brewster was a designation
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: of a female brewer. And now, to be more on topic,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: what is the difference between this rhetoric being a spoused
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: and the rhetoric that was used to excuse me, that
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: was used to rile up entire communities to seek out
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: whiches and execute them. See also the rhetoric being used
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: in the high profile cases where the Rachel angel is
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: being used as the foundation, and see how it compares
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: to the witch hunting rhetoric. All right, thank you for that,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: and I think that's it. So let's uh, are we
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: going to the other video or do you want to
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: say some more stuff about this one? Okay, we're going
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: to the other one. All right, let's do it. All right,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: so I will I do have time codes, but maybe
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: i'll play a little bit of the intro so you
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: get a sense of what we're getting into. So here
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: we go.
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: You know, I would like to have feminism recognized as
• 50:31
  Speaker 6: the hate ideology that it really is and for it
• 50:36
  Speaker 6: to be discredited.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: So right off the bat, she's I just want you
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: guys to know where this woman's coming from. Her channels
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: called feminist cat Lady Spinster, her instagram is disobedient Jezebel,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: and she's got like a full moon on her opening,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: So make make make of that what you will. With
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: like creepy meal, official Reverse Traditionalism channel gave us another
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: super charm. I's gonna read it before we continue for
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: five and says sorry, I have been lurking as a
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Badger fan for about twelve years, but I've only been
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: debating feminists for about six months, and I genuinely am
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: baffled at finally realizing it just isn't about the argument. Yes,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: it's not, and people really are that stupid and evil.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know that it's stupidity so much as they
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: can because feminism is the only well that's I didn't
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: say it wasn't evil. That's why I said, I don't
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: think it's stupid. Feminism as a discipline is above criticism,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: even from within academia itself. So it's embedded and no
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: one has the balls and in many cases literally don't
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: to actually like dismantle it and discredit it, which is
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: why again, Janice Biumengo opens with, we got to find
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: a way to discredit it. Obviously, the people who are
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: pushing it don't care. They don't care how good your
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: arguments are. So yeah, well, I mean it's.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: The argument is substrate, right, it's the reality that they
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: foreclosed during the formation of or the derivation of their concepts.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: Like I am going through the feminist corpus. So that's
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: feminist theory about thirteen thousand. Now I have to I
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: can't do it like manually, at least not all of it.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: And a lot of it is just basically dissertations and
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: theses and and it's all kind of chaff that feminist
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: students create that nobody even reads much less sites. But yeah,
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: there's there's going through this. What I have discovered is
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: how much they violate what so called Brickmont call abuses
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: of science now so called and Brickmont apply those abuses
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: to humanities or soft science, borrowing hard science concepts. But
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: what happens in feminism is they borrow concepts from a
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: harder science like sociology or even psychology or anthropology. They
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: borrow concepts from those fields. And actually I shouldn't even
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: say they borrow concepts, they borrow terms. Right, So a
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: feminist will borrow a term like strain, which has a
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: specific conceptual meaning in the psychology literature. So Good originally
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: wrote about strain and it's a fairly fairly obvious, but
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: you know, again, academia is about exploring the obvious. He
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: basically described strain role strain as people have roles, and
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: the roles have demands that they have to live up to,
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: and those demands are usually greater than their ability to
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: fulfill them. So it was a completely gender neutral description
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: of roll strain. It was about demands placed upon the person,
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: not benefits demands. That was stolen by Pleck, who is
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: basically foundational to the psychology of men in masculinities field,
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: which itself is founded on feminist conjecture about men. He
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: stole that term, completely divorced it from the underlying concept
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: and said that male gender role strain is a result
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: of their privilege. Just so we go from a concept
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: that's about how a role puts demands on a person
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: and those demands create strain living up to them. So
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: though there that's a burden concept. So we go from
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: strain as a burden concept to strain as a privileged concept,
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: and there's no derivation. Like Pleck does not explain how
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: male gender role strain as derives from Good's roll strain
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: at all. He doesn't explain it ever, He just steals
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: the term and the valor of it, the legitimacy of it,
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: and then appends it to a feminist concept and calls
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: it today, just welds it in. Here you go, my
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: postmodern feminist concept. And it's like they do this over
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: and over and over again. Now, if they had done
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: that to a physics concept, so call and Brickmont would
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: have called that abuse of science. And I say that
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: the spirit is the same that he is. Black was
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: taking a concept from a much more established and empirically
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: grounded field, welding it to a feminist conceit and then
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: calling it today. So he's stealing stuff. And this happens
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: over and over and over again in feminist conjecture. They
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: do it constantly. So what I'm gonna do is I'm
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: gonna map it. I'm gonna map every instance of them
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: doing this, violating so cal and Brickmont's abuse of science,
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: which has like four dimensions of abuse. And then also
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: green wards formulation, which is basically taking concepts and completely
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: lying about their providence what they actually mean, and citing
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: them without without including the actual content of the concept,
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: or even completely misrepresenting what the concept is. And it's
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: rife in feminism, like everything that is terrible about science,
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: literally that's feminism. That's feminism. It is even if it
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: wasn't morally bankrupt, just on the level of farce, theft, misrepresentation,
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: mislabeling that vocabulary, juggling, stolen vocabulary, woozles, lying, just on
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: the level the sheer amount of academic fraud in feminism.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: It's a monstrosity before we even get into asserting that
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: half the human race is subhuman. So, yeah, that's my
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: that's my little rant, Joey, let's talk feminist cat lady spinster,
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: let's talk about feminism.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, I'm going to finish that super
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Child I was reading before, and I got another rumble rant,
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: and then we'll continue. Uh okay, gently baffled by the
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: at finally realizing it just isn't about the argument, and
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: people really are that stupid and evil? The answer is
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: the answer. It was never about reality. Gives me closure
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: about so much of the frustration. Yeah, they believe they
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: can make things real by speaking it into existence, and
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: all it requires is for everyone to go along with it,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: and to some degree they get what they want.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: All right, So, just just to clarify, it's Greenberg, not
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: green word, and it's citation. Citation distortions Greenberg, and it
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: is fashionable nonsense by Sakal and Brickmont. So if you're
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: interested in looking into in these kinds of you know,
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: like a scientist calling out this nonsense in the soft sciences. Okay,
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: speaking of nonsense, let's begin.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm trying, I got I got another super chat.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: I got to read them because they'll get stuck. So
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: Dylan gives us ten dollars and says, you don't argue
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: to convince your opponent why they're wrong. Their hearts are hardened.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: You debunk their arguments so that others see the errors
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: in your opponent's position. Thank you for that. Yes, that's true,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: but there has to be an audience otherwise you're kind
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: of wasting your breath. And you shouldn't get frustrated because
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: you haven't changed their mind, because again, you're not dealing
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: with people who are thinking. You're dealing with people who
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: have zealous conviction. But okay, let us start.
• 59:21
  Speaker 7: HI and welcome to or back to my channel where
• 59:24
  Speaker 7: I offer my thoughts and opinions about whatever catches my attention.
• 59:28
  Speaker 7: I'm Kit and today per request, we're looking at a
• 59:31
  Speaker 7: video from Laura how the truth about feminism's impact on
• 59:34
  Speaker 7: marriage and men with Janice FIAMNGO. Long time describers might
• 59:38
  Speaker 7: remember Janis from the Make Women Great Again convention where
• 59:41
  Speaker 7: she was one of the speakers. Other than that, Jenesis's
• 59:44
  Speaker 7: claim to fame is well direct from her subject bio.
• 59:47
  Speaker 7: I am a retired professor of English with a long
• 59:50
  Speaker 7: running video series about the fraud of feminism. As for Laura,
• 59:53
  Speaker 7: per her channel bio, Laura Howe is a relationship therapist
• 59:57
  Speaker 7: specializing in sexless marriage and female sexualis are in long
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 7: term relationships. Very curious as to how she ended up
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 7: here chatting with Janie FIUMEENNGO of all people about feminism.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 7: But okay, so the video opens with.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Both all right, I'm just pausing it there so great
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: Indoors gives us a Fi dollar super chow and says,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: this pink haired lady basically does a variation of the
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: following Norm MacDonald joke only forty five seconds long, and
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: then includes a link. I guess he wants me to
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: put this on. Do you want me to play this
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: this video? This video that he shared Alison.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: Let me see, let me see it's yeah, sure, let's
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: do it.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: All right, It's I know, I know the joke, but
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: I'll play it for you guys.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 8: Well, I can't say, well, I can't say my friend's name,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 8: but he said his biggest fear is that isis or
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 8: some terrorist group like that, we'll get ahold of a
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 8: dirty bomb and exploited over a major city within the
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 8: United States and kill tens of millions of people, because
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 8: then the blowback against innocent Muslims would be absolutely terrible.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, that's true.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Let's do some jobs, okay, all right, well you know
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: that's the important thing. That's the important thing exactly.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, So let's so she's not happy with the fact
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: that Janice Piumengo was talking to this Laura Howe person,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: and that Janice Pumngo was at the Make Woman Great
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: Again conference which was just for that was years ago.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: If you guys remember that, we actually did a response
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: to an interview that I think, uh or it was
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: like a I think it was Piers Morgan had or
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: maybe it was it wasn't it was some other show
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: had Janice and Anthony dream Johnson on. Anthony Johnson was
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: the guy beach Muscles. He was the guy that was
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: putting this whole thing together. He has since then as
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: far as I know, he doesn't even do this stuff anymore.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Like his mother was like murdered or something, and he's
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: just been on a crusade against his father ever since.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know if his father is responsible. He blames
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: him though, So that's like a whole. But that's another
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: that's another rabbit hole. But my point is Janice once
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: did an appearance for the Redman group. They did the
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: Make Women Great Again event and she went to that.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: I don't think she agrees with those people on a lot,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: but I think that she accepted the invitation because it
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: gave her an opportunity to talk about what she cares about.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: But this woman is going to basically at every opportunity
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: to associate Janis win that group, which basically means that
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: she's an honorary male in her eyes. So all right,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: shall I get.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: You can become that Yeah, if you've if you've.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: Done things for men. I mean, she doesn't say it explicitly,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: but the apparently the fact that Janie appeared on that
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: at that convention, which was again years ago, that's enough
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: for her, Like she might as well just be one
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: of those dudes at that point. So all right, So
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: so I'm gonna jump ahead to the first uh time
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: code here and it's like eight, Yeah, we'll start from here.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 7: Makes people that way, and I would.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: I want to go back a little bit.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 7: Okay, goodbot or the only interest they have good grief anyway,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 7: I really recommend At the Age of Grievance by Frank Bernie.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 6: It brings out the entitlement mentality that some women have.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 6: It I think exacerbates envy and discontent and anger. It
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: leeches away loving kindness and softness and nurturing. And for
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 6: all the talk of how women are the ones who
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 6: care for the week, it seemed to me that it
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 6: takes away caring from women.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 7: So anyone can call themselves a feminist Angry people, entitle people,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 7: mean people, whoever. But I assume Janets is saying feminism
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 7: makes people that way, and I would really like to
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 7: know how she figures that feminism has it made me
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 7: more one way or another, except that I try to
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 7: think twice before I speak, because I don't know.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: It has Yeah, No, it's okay, it's okay, We'll let
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: her finish her point. So she says what it has
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: done is allowed her to think before she speaks.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: Okay, sure, sexis norms and yes.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: So that she doesn't reinforce sexist norms, so it's not
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: a formal control, but it kind of is. Let's go
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: back a little bits. You can you hear that again?
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 7: Mean people whoever? But I assume Jane's is saying feminism
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 7: makes people that way, and I would really like to
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 7: know how she figures that feminism has it made me
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 7: more one way or another? Except that I try to
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 7: think twice before I speak because I don't want to
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 7: uphold sexist norms and yes that includes against men, and
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 7: I try to ask more questions out why I'm doing
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 7: whatever it is I'm doing it.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: You're gonna be ald to that now, Yeah, she says that,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: she says.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: That, Okay, yeah, but she gets to define what her
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: sex and storms against men. That's the that's the catch.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: Mhmm, Well sexist, I mean what does that mean? Like
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: are we talking about social things or we talk about biology?
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: Biological things? Like what are we talking about? But let's
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: let's keep going.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 6: So I yeah, I really began to question whether feminism
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 6: was really what feminists said it was, whether it was
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 6: really a movement for equality, because I couldn't see very
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 6: much equality. I couldn't see any new victuality, any reciprocal commitment,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 6: any equal caring for men and boys.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 7: At its core, feminism is about equality, though different feminists
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 7: focus on different things. And I would say that yes,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 7: it's about advocating for legal, social, financial, etcetera. Equality and
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 7: also examining how those inequalities came about so we can
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 7: understand how best to unravel them, not being sure they
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 7: don't happen again. But it can't start with you men.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Like literally they blame men. You have to actually expect
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: the framework that men are to blame. You can't get
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: away from it if you have actually read the foundational documents.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: They say that the issue is men's oppression, but that
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: has never been proven like I might as so far
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: nothing and I've gone through pretty much everything every place
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: where it could have been proven, nothing right, And there's
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: no actual citation of where it's proven, which makes it worse.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: And again I don't think it can be proven right,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: but it ever has been. It never been stated in
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: a way that could be proven true or false. So
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: right off the bat, when you are in a framework
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: that blames one sex, don't complain and and the sex
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: that's being blamed has no ability to say, hey, wait,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: do we get a counter argument to this blame? Do
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: we get to submit any evidence to the court, do
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: we get any due process before we just concluded that
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: we are to blame? And your response is well, that
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: just makes you more guilty because you refuse because and
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: this is the thing I am certain. Now you can
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: never be completely certain, because then you're not being scientific.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: But I am ninety nine point nine nine certain that
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: the entire process the progress of feminist Marxists trying to
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: actually derive patreonarchy from Marxist class analysis and failing, like literally,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: Bart Barrett says, I can't find male privilege. There's a
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: null here, and then the rest of feminists being like,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: oh that's interesting. Well, we're just never gonna cite you,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: and again we'll just make up standpoint theory and say
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: we don't have to prove anything and then just move
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: along on our merry way. Means that it was never
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: proven functionally, never proven, not even from Marxist class analysis.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: Could you get patriarchy, Not even on the easy setting, ladies,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: could you actually derive and prove your assertion about men
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: being to blame? So lady, when you say I believe
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: that men are to blame, and I get to believe
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: it because of women's ways of knowing, because I'm superior
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: as a woman. Because men don't create, men aren't capable
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: of relationships, they can't have loyalty or love. This is
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: this is shitting stuff directly from feminist theory. Guys, Hartman
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: or I'm sorry, heartswuck, heartsock, men are dissed. They are
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: permanently closed off from standpoint through theory because they are
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: incapable of forming human connection, unlike women who are deeply compassionate.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: Heart sock. Right there, that's the justification for feminist standpoint theory,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: which is why they don't need proof that men are oppressive.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: They just have women's ways of knowing, which is based
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: on the fact that women are emotionally superior to men. Right.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: This is what she's talking about. This is what's coming
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: out of her mouth. And then she has the audacity
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: to say, we don't hate men, we just think they're
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: incapable of human connection. Therefore they are emotionally inferior and
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: don't have an opinion on us blaming them for everything.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: That's not hatred. Guys, it's just I mean, you might
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: feel like it, but that's just your guilt. I think
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: she has the audacity go into your heart's song and
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: tell me if that's not actually a little bit misinterest. Right,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: Read your Red Red Stockings manifesto, Read your Barrett, and
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: then scratch your head over home. Barrett couldn't derive patriarchy
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: from Marxist materialism. Maybe there's maybe there's no there there,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: Maybe men aren't guilty. Right now, She's not gonna do
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: any of this. She's just gonna inherit all of these
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: premises that were never proven or even actively found to
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: be not true. She's gonna inherit all of them in
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: a framework in which men are eternally to blame with
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: no defense, and say, why don't you why this is equality? Guys?
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, I'm setting myself well above you.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: I'm denying that you even have the human ability to bond.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: That's making me entirely emotionally superior to you, and which
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: is a position from which I'm blaming you for everything.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: But why do you feel that you're unequal? God? Damn? Okay,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: all right, continue.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: Let's continue.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 7: You if you don't examine yourself what's going on?
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: Guys? Are the stream stop? Let me see? People are
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: putting f's in the chat? Uh?
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: Who's in the chat?
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 7: Did I?
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: Was it me?
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: Did I? No?
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: No? No, no, the the My internet connection is dipped
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: a lot, but it's still still up. It's just really
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: slow for some reason. Yeah, I don't know why that is.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: Did that actually come through an impassioned rank?
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: No, I'm still live, like I'm We're still live. It
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: just says we're there's buffering.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, guys, did you hear mine? It's probably because we're you're.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: Saying sound, try refreshing. That should No, there's definitely sound.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: There should be sound. I can hear it. I just
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: test it. Yeah, it's working.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: Do I need to go through my feminism?
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: No? No, no, no, Alison, No, you did the rant.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: It's done. You guys can they can hear it. It
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: was just a hiccup in the internet connection. Okay. So
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna continue the video.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 7: Change the way you interact with the world. You're not
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 7: going to get very far, and really the only thing
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 7: you can for sure change is yourself, and that's a
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 7: big step towards social change. All that to say, feminism
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 7: isn't about addicting into others how they should behave. And
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 7: if someone says I'm a feminist and I have to
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 7: tell you how to live your life or you'll do
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 7: it wrong or in a way I don't agree with,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 7: ask yourself, how does that liberate lady on from anything.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: Feminism literally has become the foundational belief system for the
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: psychology of men in masculinities field, which itself informs mental
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: health interventions for men for the Association for the American
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: Psychology Association. They one hundred percent tell these men how
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: they're supposed to live their life or they deserve their
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: mental health challenges. I've actually challenged psychologists who say they
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: believe this stuff if they'd actually say this to a
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: man who has mental health issues, and they just go silent.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: But who knows, maybe they are mendacious enough to actually
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: say it in the privacy of their own therapeutic struggle
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: session chambers. But literally, they are saying to men that
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: their masculinity is a contributing factor to their bat their
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: ill health, their mental health problems, which not only is
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: empirically false, it's also reprehensible. And finally, it is a
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: form of conversion therapy, okay, and show it shares a
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: lot of similarities to that. Right, So this lady should
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: realize that they are saying that you need to live
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: your life in a particular way. They're definitely saying that
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: to men. They may be a little bit more lear
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: to say that to women, but they say that to men.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: And you also say that to men. I think you've
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: already said it to men, you know. I want you
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: know we're not telling you how to live your life.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: We're just saying you're a despicable reprobate who shall probably
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: be arrested and charges with some form of harassment if
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: you don't comply, and you should also lose your job.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: But you know that's that's not coercion. You still get
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: a choice. Yeah, said the same choice that Epstein or
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: not Epstein. Sorry, Weinstein, I got the wrong Steen. Some
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: commonality there, some way Weinstein. Weinstein said to those women,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: all right, they could have walked away, they could have
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: said no anyway.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let me let's get to another time code.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: I think there's nothing left there, so we're going to
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: jump ahead to sixteen twelve. It's kind of like right here.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: Sometimes these time poses are out exact.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 5: Or as friends, et cetera.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 7: That is wonderful for Janie.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: I'm really going to go back a little bit.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: I don't think you are.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm older now.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 6: I grew up in this nineteen seventies, when feminism was
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 6: at least the second wave of feminism was going strong.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 6: I experienced nothing in my life but kindness, generosity, and
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 6: support from my male teachers, mentors, friends, et cetera.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 7: That is wonderful for Janis. I'm really glad that was
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 7: her experience. That does, not, however, give her the authority
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 7: to invalidate or ignore the experiences of other women and
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 7: knowing and supportive men in my life. And that is
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 7: one of the reasons I'm a feminist.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: So anecdotes are no good unless they're her anecdotes. Because
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: what was this? Standpoint theory is the idea that your
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: truth is just as relevant or valid as any other truth.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: No, that's not standpoint theory.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: Brian, Okay, what is it.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: That is not standpoint theory?
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay? What is it?
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: Standpoint theory is not that anybody's truth is relevant. It's
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: that truths are ranked on an intersectional hierarchy. Yes, so
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: that the oppressed have more understanding of the oppressor than
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: the oppressor has of the oppressed, and they women get
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: to define themselves as oppressed based on the fact that
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: they are oppressed. So standpoint theory is women have a
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: greater understanding of oppression because they are the oppressed, which
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: proofs that they are the oppressed. Right, So that's why
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: they don't have to prove that they are oppressed, because
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: they are oppressed and therefore have a greater understanding of oppression.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: That standpoint theory. It is absolutely not that everybody's beliefs
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: are equal, no. It For example, the Amngo's beliefs are
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: not equal because they are false consciousness. She has the
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: consciousness of the oppressor, which is also standpoint theory. Only
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: feminists understand truth. Get that, Yeah, this means that only
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: this girl understands truth because Theamengo has or of Janis
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: Fumngo has the false consciousness of the oppressor, and she,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: as a feminist, has true consciousness of the oppressed. As
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: a woman, she has been oppressed by men, and that
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: gives her the criteria on which to assert that she
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: is oppressed. Do you see the circularity of it? And
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: especially just means that women women are superior to men,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: and although they've they've attempted to derive that from various
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: other other disciplines like psychoanalysis. That was Heartsock that I mentioned.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: She attempted to derive the whole idea of standpoint theory
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: from men not being able to bond because they had
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: to reject their mothers. So as a result of rejecting
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: their mothers, they've apparently rejected their humanity, which means they
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: just don't have the standpoint the capacity to understand relationships
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: between men and women like women do. It's it's incredibly circular,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: and it does not result in everybody having equal say
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: absolutely not, because you would not, Brian like, right off
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: the bat, you were disqualified as a man. You might
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: regain some standing because you're Puerto Rican, but you already
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: qualified as a man. Yeah, not a lot as soon
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: as you disagree or of course the white men of
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: Puerto Rican people. So yeah, it's it's a higher it's
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: a deeply hierarchical, very aggressively hierarchical structure that determines who
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: gets privilege over their own thoughts, because that's what these
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: women are after controlling people down to their freaking brain
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: stem and uh yeah, so no, that's not standpoint theory,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: and uh do you want to continue? Sorry, I just
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: need to correct that.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: That's fine. I got a rumble ran from Roboto. He
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: gives us a dollar and says, if feminism is about freedom,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: why the why all the oppression? It's not okay, go ahead, Yeah,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: it's not about freedom. That's a lie. Nope, Uh okay,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna continue. So she's explaining that you just don't
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: get it, and that she cares about the men in
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: her life too.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 7: Incens of other women. And you know what, I've also
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 7: had loving and supportive men in my life, and that
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 7: is one of the reasons I'm a feminist. I want
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 7: them to be able to fully embrace their humanity as well.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 7: I have spent nights walking them off that ledge, and
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 7: I have seen how patriarchal rules and expectations are men,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 7: and then they apologize for daring to show emotion, and
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 7: it just breaks my heart because no, you're human. It's natural,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 7: and especially so around people you care about and who
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 7: care for you. And that is why I hate I
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 7: don't hate you.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: You notice how you notice how she has to import
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: this unproven assertion that men are to blame patriarchy. So
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: she's talked men off the ledge. Why are the men
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: in your life suicidal, my dear?
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: In the first place, she thinks that since the way
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: the normal state of men that default the masculine norms,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: they're making me kill myself.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all, And honestly it's it's all false. One
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: patriarchy has never been proven and has been it's actually
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: reverse proven. The Marxist feminists could not derive it from
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: Marxist class analysis, which is about it's about that is
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: deriving oppression, easy mode. All right, two men do men?
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: Masculinity is not associated with mental health problems. Okay, so
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: right there, what she's saying is wrong. And then the
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: other thing is that she gets to define what it
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: is to be human. I want men to have the
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: full experience of being human in a context where I
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: reserve for myself the ability the reserve myself as a woman,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: the understanding of human connection, loyalty, and love that men
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: don't understand natively. But I could tell them, I could
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: inform them. I could make them well, not human, but
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: I could elevate them from their their crude, violent based
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: natures through my femininity and feminism, like, yeah, yeah, you're
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: you're you're so beneficent, lady, you're so so giving. You
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: you allow the fact that men, if they agree with
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: you and do everything they say that you say, could
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: become human, I mean, not really human, but human adjacent.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: What a piece m hm. Okay, yep, all right, I
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: know you have a hard limit.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah I do. Yeah, we got a half hour. Let
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: me see here, let me just make sure I'm done. No,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: there's another some more time in this sign code she's doing.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: She's not only trying to convince me, what is anyone
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: else just pissed off by this one? Okay?
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: Annoying? Yeah for sure, Okay, as.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 7: No, you're human. It's natural, and especially so around people
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 7: you care about and who care for you. And that
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 7: is why I hate. I don't hate Janice, but I
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 7: hate what she's doing. She's not only trying to doing that,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 7: but she's trying to coax them and.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, all right, all right. She's like,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: she's not only trying to convince men that women aren't
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: oppressed by men. So basically, what she's saying is that
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: Janice is not only trying to convince men that they
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: are not to blame for women's oppression, right, And then
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: she just right after she says, oh, men can feel feelings? Really,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: what feelings? What feelings are men allowed to feel? Lady?
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: Are they allowed to feel? Hatred at other men and
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: their masculinity, hatred at patriarchy, hatred at the at the
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: identity they share with other men, and warm contentment that
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: you have enlightened them? And also, how does somebody who
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: blames men for the worst possible sin, Let's face it,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: this is how you condemned people. When you want to
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: condemn and demonize an entire culture, what do you say?
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: You say that they harm their women, right, or that
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: they're a threat to our women. So feminism uses the demonization,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: the weaponized demonization language that we use in war propaganda,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: directs it at men and then has a song and
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: dance about it. How it cares about men's feelings, well,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: not men's feelings being subject and targeted by war propaganda,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: but you know, just the other feelings, Like, how how
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: do you how do you how do you credibly assert
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: that you care about the feelings of a group of
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: people that you are targeting war propaganda towards how do
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: you credibly assert that lady right? And she did and
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: she does it in the same damn gens. It's because
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: they care about men's feelings. That's why I cert war
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: propaganda against them. Let's keep going, all right.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 7: Because her life is comfortable and therefore everything must be fine,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 7: and to start talking about how.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: We wait, wait, wait, wait, wait wait, So because Janice
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: Fiamngo has had a good life and had men who've
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: supported her the fact that she says, and it's not
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: just because of her own personal experience, She's just talking
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: about her motivation, right, her emotional motivation. Her actual position
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: is reasoned and empirically sound, unlike this woman's right. So,
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: but because Fiamengo has had good experiences with men, she
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: can't push back on the war prop aganda that feminism
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: is directing at women or sorry, at men, because somehow
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: that will cause men to feel like they can't have feelings.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: You know, I think that once you're in a position
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: like really, honestly, we need to foreclose this idea that
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: feminists give a crap about men's feelings, aside from trying
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: to silence them. Once you are in a position where
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: you say, you assert that men oppress women, you don't
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: get to talk about caring about men's feelings. Right. Once
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: you've foreclosed men's right to exist, you don't get to
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: start saying, oh, I care about their lives and their
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: well being. Yeah, look right off, all right.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 9: Okay, sorry, there has men and women to build a
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 9: good society and a society that is good for raising children,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 9: which seems to be the most important thing that we
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 9: could have as a society.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 5: I don't think we have that now.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 7: I agree, But we're not going to build a better
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 7: society by ignoring what's wrong in the current one.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 5: Like this notion.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: So she's not going to explain what's wrong on the
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: current one. So Jane's just said, no, she doesn't have to.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: Jani's just said, you know, this is for the children,
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: which is just true. I know people don't they think
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: of like that Simpsons, meme, think of the children. But
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: the truth is the children matter. They matter more than women,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: they matter more than men in fact, in my opinion.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: So but she's just like not going to address that.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: And yeah, feminism has been disastrous for families, which includes children.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 6: That there is a you know, a pervasive misogyny in
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 6: our society that we must continually address.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 5: I've never seen that I have.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: Oh yes, the things that they trot out to justify
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: their war propaganda.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. These are her arguments. She so the woman
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: who made the video, she used some screenshots overlaid on
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: top of this video clip, so this is not from
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: the original video. This is her counter arguments. She shares One,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: women and girls are most likely to be killed by
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: those closest to them. Two, femicide is the universal problem.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: So first of all, she validates the word femicide. So
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: that's that's I mean, that should be obvious that that's
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: like an issue. But and three, the true scale of
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: femicide is likely much higher.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, What femicide means, guys, is that women are
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: killed instead of men, which is wrong, because men are
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: the right right targets of violence, the rightfule targets. They're
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: the rightful len.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean unless you, unless you're one of these
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: people who just wants to live in a world where
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: no one ever gets hurt or ever dies. I'd like
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: to live in that world. Do you want to belive
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: you don't want to live in that world?
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: Then there's something wrong with the reason why I say,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: the reason why I say they're saying that men are
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: the rightful targets of violence is because they cite the
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: intimate partner statistics in for example, the US. But what's
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: happened since two thousand or sorry, nineteen seventy and now
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: is that black men are less likely to be killed
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: by their wives or girlfriends, significantly less likely. And now
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: they cite the fact that there was a massive decrease
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: in black the deaths of black men as evidence of
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: misogyny against women, because the women's numbers didn't decrease as
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: much as men's did, Right, that's what they're doing. So
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy, the intimate partner violence, like the deaths
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: due to intimate partner violence, were more equal between men
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: and women. It was something like, I don't know, forty
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: five fifty five, right, fifty five percent women, forty five
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: percent men. Now they've become significantly more asymmetrical, which they
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: what do they call that? That is misogyny, it's violence
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: against women, it's femicide. Right, But what actually happened is
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: that the deaths of black men went down substantially, and
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: then the deaths women didn't go down as much, and
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: that's what they're terming misogyny. Right, So less men dying
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: is actual hatred of women. That's how I know what
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: they're actually saying is that men are the appropriate victims
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: of violence, and when it's a woman that the real
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: problem is not that a person is dead. So a
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: woman is dead when it should have been a man.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: They wouldn't be saying this if black men were still
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: dying at the same rate as they did in the seventies.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: They wouldn't be calling it violence against women, would they. No,
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: they probably still would try to figure out how to
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: do it right. They wouldn't be calling this intimate partner
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: homicide violence against women. But the fact that less women
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: die from it now less men, but not less only
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: slightly less women, is hatred to women. It's a femicide,
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: completely disreputable human beings.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, all right. I got a rumble rant
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: from nova fan who gives us a dollar and says, feminist.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: I became a feminist because of my respect for men.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: Also feminist whenever women call men gay for being quote
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: unquote not man enough, it's the patriarchy's fault. Stop blaming women. Okay,
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: it's true, all right, let's get her response and.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 5: A misogynistic man. Oh, she is such a liar.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 7: Or perhaps she's merely ignorant, which would be very sad.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 7: Does Janie not consider Andrew Johnson as well as the
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 7: other speakers at the Make Women Great Again Convention misogynists?
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: Or and it's Anthony. It's Anthony Johnson. She got his
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: name wrong, Anthony Dream Johnson Beach muscles Red Man Group.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: Those guys are super guynocentric, by the way, probably why
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: they're I don't know. I don't know how old is
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: this video. This is only from five days ago. She's
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: bringing up old stuff. I don't even know if those
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: guys exist. I'll look it up. But the point is
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: they're not. They they're not misogynistic because they like, they're
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: not at all. They're just they're not even they're basically
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: trad cons. Like, come on, you know, let's see Red
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: Man Group. Does it still exist? I mean, their YouTube
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: channel still exists. I can just I'll just go to
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: the channel and see mute. This last thing they put
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: out was a video three years ago. Yeah, last time
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: they put out a video three years ago, So they
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: probably haven't been active. I will look and see those links.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: I want to address one of her screenshots. The most
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: dangerous place for a woman is in her own home. Yes, right,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: The numbers make it stark. There's about nine eight hundred
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: unintentionally injury death injury deaths in and around the home,
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: fifty eight three hundred poisonings, thirty two thousand, five hundred balls.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: Of course, feminine female intimate partner homicides are a little
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: bit over a thousand plus a year, So I guess
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: she's right. The home is very dangerous for women. It's
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: just not the man in the home that's dangerous. It's
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: the tub or the I guess accidentally drinking bleach in
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: some horrible household accident. But you know, like yeah, keep
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: humping I mean that hit by lightning statistics. They're feminists.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, if if if the safest place, like if
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: women are only in a few places and all of
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: the most dangerous places have been like essentially they've been
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: sheltered from them, then but they're going to die from
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: something like you know, I mean most of the time,
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: hopefully it will be just old age or disease or something.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: But like if they are going to die like in
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: some you know, let's say, way that was unexpected, whether
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: it's a murder or an accident, but they're safe from
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: literally any other or most other causes. Yeah, and it's
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: probably going to be at the home because you've made
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: everything else. It's either inaccessible because it's too dangerous, or
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: you've made it safer by putting like cops and first
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: responders and soldiers and firefighters, you know, men everywhere. Yeah, yeah, men.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: Women spend most of their time in the home, and
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: on an order, there are ninety times more likely to
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: die of poison in the home or falls than they
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: are from intimate partner violence. This is a minor issue,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: particularly compared to women's suicide, which is very much an
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: issue of mental health and any ideology that increases mental
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: health strain on women. So if we look at any
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: ideologies that might be associated with SSR I use or
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: mental health concerns, we might want to consider that impact
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: on women's fatality statistics and that they might actually have
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: a huge impact on it. So I think women are
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: like six seven times more likely to kill themselves, possibly
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: even more than to be killed by an intimate partner,
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: And incidentally, they don't mention is that intimate partner female
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: or male? We act, We really need to disambiguate those
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: those statistics, because I think they're hiding quite a bit.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: But regardless, ninety times more likely to die from falls
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: poisoning in the home. That's just in the home, right,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: seven times more likely to die of suicide. And what
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: the feminists focus on, the one they can use to
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: maintain their blame and grievance towards men. What a shock.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: And again, if you are going to target, if you're
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: on a cherry pick to construct this narrative, you don't
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: have the right to claim that the target of your
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: shitting threat narratives that you care about their feelings. Right,
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: If you care about men's feelings, stop targeting them with
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: your shitty threat narrative. Right, that's a good first step. Okay,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: let's keep going.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 5: All right, What misogyny is?
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 6: I know I'm not saying that there aren't any at all,
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 6: but the idea that is not the general nature of men?
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 5: Agreed?
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 7: I agree. Men are not born misogynists, but they and
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 7: women are born into a misogynistic society and thus must
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 7: unlearn misogyny.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: Okay again again, all right, so what she's asserting is
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: a radfem concept. The rad films asserted that men's desire
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: to dominate women is a biological impulse, and what happened
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: is the course of all this standpoint theory and intersectionality,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: and we don't really need to prove anything. The general
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: feminist corpus adopted the de facto ubiquity of bio biology
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: from the rad film So, in other words, they took
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: that it's everywhere, that it's every man, it's one to
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: one with men, which is a biological feature. You don't
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: get that from socialization. Right. They're essentially asserting that men
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: are socialized to this patriarchy and that crosses life where
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: men would kill each other on site, and yet they
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: both share the same socialization. No, they take a concept
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: that was originally biological. Radfem said, men are biologically compelled
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: to dominate women, which is this sexism that this woman
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: is talking about. Right, they take that concept, they keep
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: the ubiquity of the biological explanation or the biological derivation,
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: and then they slap on some social constructivism so they
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: don't have to answer for the bio essentialist hate speech. Right,
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: They're just like, oh, No, it's socialized. It's just socialized.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: And every boy, every single one, every single person with
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: a penis gets the socialization fairy hits them when they're
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: three years old or whatever. Right, they never explain how
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: something could but have the ubiquity of a biological factor
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: but be socialized. They never give a causal metayanism for
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: that to be so, so they never actually earn they
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: being able to fig leaf this with social constructivism. Right,
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: So when she says this, she's just making excuses. She's saying,
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: I want to assert this with the power of a
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: biological fact, but I don't want to have you responsible
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: for being a bioessentialist who's essentially condemning an entire category
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: of people based on their chromosomes. So it's socialized. How
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: how is it socialized? And until you can tell me
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: the mechanism, you don't get it. Get away from the
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: fact that you are borrowing the power of a biological
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: explanation and hiding it in a social constructivist envelope. All right, Yeah,
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he's rants, if anybody's following them.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: All right, I got a rumble ram from Roboto and
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: he gives us a dollar and says, is the only
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: safe place for women? Feminist standpoint theory. If so, where
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: and when.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: The only safe place? Well, it's the only place they
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: can't Oh, I get what you're saying. It's the only
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: place they're not held accountable.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: I guess yeah, all right, thanks the guys, tell.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: Me if you're if you're understanding what the hell I'm
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: laying down here, then send a message. Maybe Brian will
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: see it.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, better, better, even better?
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 6: Is a particular temptation of women to feel themselves under
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 6: threat and then to think of themselves as victims. In
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 6: our society in particular, a victim is somebody who is
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 6: very authentic. We tend to listen to victims. We tend
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 6: to give them a lot of respect. We call them survivors, We.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 9: Praise them for their courage, you know, all those sorts
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 9: of things.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: And so it is any of that untrue that Janice
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: is saying? Is any of that true? Do we not
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: do those things for quote unquote victims? Like anyone who
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: claims to be a victim? Yes, well, if they're women.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 9: Pleasant experience to proclaim one's victimhood.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 7: I have some harsh words in mind, but all I
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 7: will say is that this attitude is how we get
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 7: something like the s and people just shrug their shoulders.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: You are lying about this. You are lying about what
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: she just said. She did not say. It is good
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: to be a victim. It is good to be perceived
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: as a victim. You do not get to lie your
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: ass off right in public and have people not call
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: you out for it. So no that I'm not going
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: to address the content of her statement, because right here
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: she's prefaced it or she has founded it on a
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: lie about what Janice is saying. That is a lie.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: You are lying. You are a liar. Okay, all right,
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: you guys understand that.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they did.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and nothing happens the little everyday things like men
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 7: murdering their partners. Don't even get that.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 6: And along with it comes moral authenticity and purity. The
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 6: victim is not responsible for anything she's done wrong, for
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 6: any failures in her life. It's somebody else's responsibility, so
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 6: she is unimpeachable and pure.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah, victims get so much respect, says someone who freely
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 7: admits that she's never face adversity, and then what.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: Are you again? She never says she didn't have face
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: adversity she said that she's only experienced kindness from men.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: Believe me, there is a whole half of the human
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: race that can provide plenty of adversity.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah we have, Like we have footage of Janis being
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: harassed by women. Yes, we have plenty of it's intimidated. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: it's absolutely Don't.
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  Speaker 2: You even dare. Don't you even dare say that she
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: has an experienced adversity, you little chit. Okay, all right.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 9: The result of that is that every experience gets filtered
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 9: through the victim lens.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 7: It's called trauma.
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  Speaker 5: Oh my god.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: No, it's not called oh my god, it's called someone
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: god' sar go ahead, oh my.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: God, oh my god, it's called lying. Stop doing it?
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 6: All right, all right, all you see, it's quite a
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 6: satisfying worldview. And I'm speaking from personal experience. I found
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 6: it very exhilarating when I was a university student to
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 6: believe in the collective victimization of women.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: What.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 7: No, it's not satisfying. It's depressed.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 2: What it is? Okay, depressing? And stop doing it?
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, don't do that to yourself, and then
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: it won't be.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it won't be so sad. Why don't you listen
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: to your betters telling you that it's not founded on anything.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: Have you, okay, have you done a citation analysis using
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: open alex based on feminist assertions around patriarchy and male privilege?
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: Have you read the foundational text? Do you know about
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: the Marxist conflict or the attempt to derive patriarchy from
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: Marxist class theory? Do you know about do you know
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: about Heartstock? Do you know about Bremer? Do you know
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: about Brent Barrett? Do you know about Ramis? Do you
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: know about Young? Do you know any of this stuff? Girl?
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: Do you have you read it? Have you done the work?
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: If you haven't, maybe don't say you know anything about
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: this thing called feminist conjecture until you have done the work.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: And when you do the work, here is my homework
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: for you, my precious child. Find where feminists prove that
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: men in authority? And I would actually say it's men
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: in responsibility, not authority, because wherever the authority conflicts with
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: the obligation for men throughout history, the obligation wins out right.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: If men in authority and responsibility, is it proven that
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: that what follows is that men oppress women for their
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: own benefit. This is a causal relationship that can be falsified.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: It has never even been presented in this way in
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: feminist conjecture. Much less, it's never been presented in a
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: way that could be falsified. Much less has been proven
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: because you can't You cannot prove something true or false
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: until you frame it in a way that it can
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: be proven true or false. That has never happened as
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: far as I can tell. Like again, scientific certainty means
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: that I can't say it absolutely doesn't exist. Maybe there's
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: a tiny corner a feminist you know, like I don't
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: know one feminist up in like the Himalayas in her yurt,
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: who's who's who's who's written it out on yak skin?
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: Like maybe, But so far all of my research has
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: been for not to simply find where feminism asserted its
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: foundational premise in a way that could be falsified. Okay,
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: so you go, you do the work. You read the
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: foundational texts, which are basically just the Rote Red Stockings manifesto.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: You read that, you find that for me, You bring
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: it to me, and then we'll discuss whether or not
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: you're actually right. But do the work, Lady okay, all right,
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: uh yeah, the last time, fist.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 6: Empathy for the lost feminist, but certainly not for those
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 6: that you perceive as privileged, oppressive, et cetera. No empathy
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 6: at all, and you even feel quite justified in taking
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 6: revenge citation fucking needed on those people you.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: Think, Really, she's a citation.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, suddenly we need a citation, but only for this.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 6: Should suffer. You certainly don't care about their suffering, and
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 6: a just world to you may seem like one in
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 6: which they experience what you think your group has experienced,
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 6: and that's exactly what feminism produces.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 7: And I've oh, this woman is so full of shit,
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 7: then go back.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: Back, I want to Yeah, it was just about ten seconds.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 6: Or a experience what you think your group has experienced,
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 6: and that's exactly what feminism produces.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: And I've should have said fifteen seconds.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 6: We even feel quite justified in taking revenge citation fucking
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 6: needed on those people you think they should suffer. You
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 6: certainly don't care about their suffering, and a just world
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 6: to you may seem like one in which they experience
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 6: what you think your group has experienced, and that's exactly
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 6: what feminism produces.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: And I've oh, if she needs a citation, If she
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: needs a citation a feminist group on Reddit. I'm not
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: called out. It's just it's just up there, just presented
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: for the world to see as a completely acceptable conjecture
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: is right now arguing whether or not men committing suicide
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: is oppression of women. Okay, lady, you needed a citation, there,
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: you got one, and I can find well much much
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: more right where that can come from. Right, right from
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: the rad femmes that the regular feminists disavowed, but they
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: still believe exactly the same stuff. Right, and again, my
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: tickle through the feminist tickle trunk revealed that there was
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: a strand of this kind of woman onmics in which
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: women were encouraged to work, encouraged to go into education,
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: but without the massive head of resentment of Western feminism.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: So it was possible to separate these two things. You guys,
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: didn't You just really, really really loved the resentment. Right,
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: We could have had a society where women worked, women
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: had education, women provided for their families, women were still
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: wives and mothers, just like throughout all of you in history,
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: and we didn't have to have along with it all
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: of this resentment and blame of men. That was something
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: that that you just tacked on, or rather it wasn't
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: even tacked on. It became the main thing. You adopted
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: the radfem framework. And the rad fems consistently come out
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: with awful crap like men commit suicide to oppress women
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: and other even if you can believe it, even worse framings.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: And that is part like, you can't say that you
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: are separate from radfem. The only difference between a regular
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: feminist and a rad feminist is radfem is truthful about
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: their ideology. Like if you honestly think that men are
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: biologically inclined to oppress women, that is, men are sociopaths
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: with no capacity to love women, then the rad fem
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: corpus they're they're thinking is absolutely it makes perfect sense.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: It's rational, right, you can't there is no there is
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: no possible there's no possible peace that can be had
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: between men and women. But here's the difference, Right, the
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: rat fems are honest about the implications of feminist conjecture.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: The regular feminists just seem to want to use it
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: to be superior to men, but not take it to
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: its logical conclusion. They want to feel emotionally superior to men,
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: which is exactly what standpoint theory says, women are emotionally
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: superior to men. They want to be able to blame men,
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: which is what patriarchy conjecture does. Men are to blame.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: Men are to blame even for women's own thoughts. Right,
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: They want to be the victim, but the rat. The
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: Red Stockings manifesto literally says, how are us white women?
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 2: How is our our complicity with white supremacy actually contribut
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: eating to our own oppression? So they metabolized racism and
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 2: the civil all of the issues brought up by the
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: civil rights movement into women's own oppression. So what they
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: were doing was evading guilt for their complicity in that system,
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: in so far as they had guilt to have. I
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: don't want to get into that argument, right, So they
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 2: evaded that guilt. Those white women, the radical feminist Red
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: Stalking Manifesto evaded that guilt by metaboli metabolizing it into
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: victimhood and oppression by men. If you can freaking believe it, right,
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: that's another draw. All of this is sourced, Every single
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: bit of it has a citation, all, right, let's I
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: know that we are rapidly.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're getting well, this is the last time code,
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: this is the last time code. I'm just playing. Well,
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: there is one. Uh, I don't know if we have time,
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: Let's just play the rest of this one.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 7: Feminism doesn't create vengeful women, you know what does harm?
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 7: It's so interesting though, all about society is just so
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 7: respectful of victims, and here she is dismissing them as
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 7: having no real reason for their pain, no real reason
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 7: for their anger.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: You know, I would like, Okay, so Fiamengo acting or
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: speaking out against this is evidence. What are you going
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: to frame Fiumengo as being part of the establishment and
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: you're saying no, this, oh Fumengo is part of the establishment.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 2: Is calling victims out. That means victims don't get any cred.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 2: Oh again, Right. She is believing something that literally they
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: could not They could not create a proper explanation for it.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: They couldn't create it, they couldn't create proper evidence for it.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 2: So they sim invented standpoint theory, or at least they
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 2: just fell into standpoint theory to prove that they didn't
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 2: need evidence for patriarchy and male privilege. So all of
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: the harms that she's talking about are coming from something
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: that doesn't exist, and they refuse to acknowledge it because
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: they've convinced themselves of their standpoint superiority. Right. So yeah,
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: and if you once you get a situation where men
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 2: are responsible for women's thoughts and choices, and women make
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 2: bad thoughts, may make bad choices. Of course, the oppression
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 2: feels like it's everywhere because it's in your own brain.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that was the last one. So I got
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: some super chats and stuff, so I'm gonna read them.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: The dunk Skunk gave us thirty five czars and said
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: she is arguing for feminism being a response to trauma,
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: which which fair enough, trauma responses aren't healthy long term. No,
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're supposed to be. Then we got
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: one from anonymous for five and they say, Allison, I
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: endorse your rant. Please continue to shine a spotlight on
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: the lies coming out of feminism, up to and including
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: feminism itself and its rotten foundations, a foundation built entirely
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: out of fiction sourced assertions made about reality. Thank you
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: for that, Richard Bierre. Yeah, yeah, I'm reading it now.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: It gives us five dollars and says okay. In the
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: vein of women dying inside the home, there was this
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: prominent feminist, Shulia Firestone Smith. She died inside her own
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: apartment from starvation. She had been under the care of
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: a psychiatrist for her paranoid schizophrenia and had organized a
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: network of women who would assist her with her daily routine.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: After the psychiatrist retired and moved away from her city,
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: the network basically faded away and left Shoemilly Shuli Mia
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: to fend for herself. She was so deeply into existential
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: fear that she wouldn't or couldn't go outside of her
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: own apartment even to shop for food by herself. Apparently
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: she ran out of food and there wasn't anyone from
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: the Sisterhood that was willing to take her food shopping.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: But there is always the Sisterhood that ensures that women
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: everywhere will be kept safe by the Sisterhood. All right, Yeah,
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: I heard about that. And there was another radical feminist
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: that died like alone. She was found dead in her
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: home or something I read about it.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, Sisterhood has your.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: Back, you know, well, you know that's just like that's
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: just this is just a byproduct of maximum safety. Like oh,
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm not around anyone, I never leave
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: my house and I don't go to the store and
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: I don't eat, I'll be safe from men. And she
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: just died. I'm not laughing at it because it's not funny,
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: but I mean, it's like, I don't know, it's horrible.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: It's horrible. It is it is. It's like it's like
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: worse than a Twilight Zone ending, you know.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and I know I understand why you're laughing.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 2: It's just it's like horrible. It's also ironic. Yeah, it's
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 2: hard not to not to have that kind of black
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 2: like chuckle at something that's both horrible and ironic. But uh,
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: I just you know, what reminded, what popped into my
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 2: head is something that really struck me. My grandma. My
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: grandma and my grandfather lived into their eighties, and my
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 2: grandmother passed away. She got breast cancer towards the end,
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 2: and I remember my grandfather telling me something that really
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 2: struck with me. He's like, well, my life is taking
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: care of her, Like this is my purpose is to
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: take care of your grandma. And I realized having just
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 2: watched you know, men in my family and I got
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 2: I probably have an unusual family because I got like
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 2: six uncles and only one divorce. But that's sort of
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: how men in many ways framed their their lives is
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: to take care of their women and children. And it
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 2: just when I was when you read that out, like
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: when Richard wrote that and you read it out, I
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 2: was just thinking about that, because feminism tells women that
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 2: someone like that, like my grandfather is the oppressor of
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: my grandmother, a man who considered it his life's calling
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 2: to make sure that she was taken care of. He
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 2: also like died like an a year after she did,
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 1: And that's just.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 2: That's ridiculous, and nothing good is going to come out
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 2: of a lie that monstrous.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: No, No, you gotta wonder why she was paranoid. The
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: dunk Skunk gave us thirty five czars and says she
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: claimed that Janets isn't feminist because she hasn't experienced trauma.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: Her FRAMI makes feminism out to be a cry for sympathy.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, it's almost like you have to have
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: supposed the trauma to be a feminist. I guess Noba
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 1: fan gives us a dollar and says feminist feminist is
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: a logical true believer of feminist ideology and dies in
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 1: her own home as a result of her going crazy
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: feminist pointing at men. Somehow, this is your fault. Well yeah,
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: because if men hadn't made her feel that way, she
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have stayed in the house and died. You see,
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 1: So it is men's fault.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 2: It's interesting how this is happening to radical feminists. Yeah,
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 2: I mean that's like maximal feminist dose. Right, Yeah, you're feminism. Yeah,
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 2: you're like right into the heart. Just just shove that
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 2: that that you know, I don't know. Fifty c's the
• 2:00:13
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• 2:00:21
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• 2:00:26
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  Speaker 2: attempting to locate through my travail through you know, with
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  Speaker 2: me with my Shirpa guide, attempting to locate the feminist
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  Speaker 2: on in the Himalayas, in her in her freakin urt,
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  Speaker 2: writing the sacred text of actually defended patriarchy on a
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  Speaker 2: Yak skin, probably in her own blood, after having been
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  Speaker 2: viciously attacked by other feminists. All right, but anyway, if
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  Speaker 2: you want to see my journeys, then go to badger
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  Speaker 2: nation dot online. Those will be made available and back
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  Speaker 2: to you. Brian.
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