Latest / Markets with Megan: A Quick Financial Markets Update / Inflation Falls Flat: CPI Surprises Wall Street | S2 E041 | 05-13-25
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- 0:00Megan Horneman: Good news is we're not seeing the tariff impact on the inflation data as of yet.
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- 0:13Megan Horneman: What we want to do today is dig a little deeper into the consumer price index data that we got today for the month of April.
- 0:20Megan Horneman: I think there was some expectation we'd start to see some of the tariff impacts show up in this data, but we did not.
- 0:27Megan Horneman: Let's dig into these details.
- 0:29Megan Horneman: When you look at the headline consumer price index, you see that it came in a slightly weaker than it had anticipated, at 0.2% versusa 0.3% expectation.
- 0:40Megan Horneman: At the core level it was the same thing, also 0.2 versus a 0.3% expectation when you look on a year-over-year basis.
- 0:49Megan Horneman: So this is also what the Fed's going to be looking at.
- 0:51Megan Horneman: Year-over-year at the headline level came in better than expected 2.3%.
- 0:56Megan Horneman: It's lower from 2.4% in March and better than the expectation of 2.4%.
- 1:03Megan Horneman: And there was really no big surprises in the core level either, because that is rising on a year-over-year basis at 2.8%.
- 1:10Megan Horneman: So let's go into what impacted this report today.
- 1:15Megan Horneman: So, first of all, energy prices were a big detractor from CPI, so that did help Oil.
- 1:20Megan Horneman: If you go back to the month of April, it was down about 20% for the month, so that was a big impact.
- 1:27Megan Horneman: When you look at the headline level, you saw gasoline down about a tenth, but on a year-over-year basis now down almost 12%.
- 1:35Megan Horneman: When you look at airline fares, this was another big reason the report was relatively tame.
- 1:41Megan Horneman: They've been negative in six out of the past eight months and what we saw on a year-over-year basis for the month of April, it was the biggest drop we've seen since 2023.
- 1:51Megan Horneman: Some of the areas that we thought would be impacted by tariffs think about automobiles, new vehicles on a month-over-month basis, prices were flat and actually used cars, the prices were negative at 5.10.
- 2:04Megan Horneman: So we're not seeing it really show up there.
- 2:05Megan Horneman: We're seeing some of the discretionary sectors whether it's apparel prices these were lower as well.
- 2:12Megan Horneman: This is keeping that index and that inflation data relatively tame.
- 2:17Megan Horneman: Now what does this mean going forward?
- 2:19Megan Horneman: Well, the markets liked this today from the bond perspective, so yields are lower and prices are higher.
- 2:24Megan Horneman: Equities are mixed here this morning and what we're seeing is that there's some individual names that are dragging the Dow Jones lower.
- 2:33Megan Horneman: But the S&P 500 has rallied on this and it's actually positive now year to date.
- 2:38Megan Horneman: The Dow Jones, even though it's having a weak day today, it's relatively flat.
- 2:44Megan Horneman: It's only down 0.14% year to date and the NASDAQ is trying to claw back some of those losses.
- 2:47Megan Horneman: On a year-to-date basis, it's now down only 1.5%.
- 2:52Megan Horneman: So what's the Fed going to do with this data?
- 2:54Megan Horneman: Well, they meet again in June, but the expectation for them to cut interest rates in June is relatively low.
- 3:00Megan Horneman: It's about 5% to 10% probability that they'll cut interest rates in June.
- 3:06Megan Horneman: It does pick up when you get into July.
- 3:09Megan Horneman: You're looking at a 30% and then you get over the 50% as we get into the second half of this year and to this we think the Fed's going to take this as welcome news.
- 3:18Megan Horneman: There was no major surprises, no big deflationary environment, so they can feel comfortable, sit back, absorb some more of the economic data that may get an impact from some of these tariffs.
- 3:29Megan Horneman: That's all we have today.
- 3:31Megan Horneman: There's a lot more data this week.
- 3:33Megan Horneman: On Thursday and Friday we'll have more from the consumer.
- 3:35Megan Horneman: We'll have more on the consumer confidence as well.
- 3:39Megan Horneman: So we'll be back to give you any more updates that we see.
- 3:41Megan Horneman: And again, if you want a history of our podcast, please, you can go to marketswithmegan.
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- 3:46Megan Horneman: Thank you.