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- 0:01Speaker 1: Now Sor Presents, no Mark si Own show.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Hey, it's Monday already. All right, We've got a lot
- 0:14Speaker 2: to get to. We'll go over the oscars, we'll get
- 0:16Speaker 2: to that. We'll get to obviously Iran, We'll get to
- 0:20Speaker 2: crazy Mom Donnie and what he's up to. We'll get
- 0:23Speaker 2: to some more Epstein revelations coming up. Some of the
- 0:27Speaker 2: last people you'd think would get implicated in the Epstein
- 0:30Speaker 2: stuff are. We'll get to the TSA, the shutdown, and
- 0:34Speaker 2: a whole lot more Iran, inside intel from people. War
- 0:43Speaker 2: three more weeks, about three more weeks of the war.
- 0:46Speaker 2: Straits of horn Moose could be opened by the weekend, possibly,
- 0:51Speaker 2: but war about three more weeks.
- 0:52Speaker 3: Now.
- 0:52Speaker 2: You're gonna hear this false narrative everywhere if you watch
- 0:56Speaker 2: the fake news, that there was no planning. There's no
- 1:00Speaker 2: objective they just went in there without any plan. There's
- 1:03Speaker 2: detailed planning on every step of the way. There's detailed planning,
- 1:07Speaker 2: contingency plans, contingency plans for the contingency. They've got this
- 1:12Speaker 2: all figured out now. Of course, as they say, when
- 1:14Speaker 2: you go into where anything can happen and your plans change.
- 1:17Speaker 2: But give it about three more weeks gas prices it
- 1:20Speaker 2: will spike during this They could hit five dollars a gallon,
- 1:24Speaker 2: which media the Democrats are outraged about. Of course, it
- 1:28Speaker 2: was five dollars a gallon the whole Biden administration. They
- 1:30Speaker 2: never said a word. But instead of four years of
- 1:34Speaker 2: Biden gas prices, you're going to get about four weeks
- 1:37Speaker 2: of this. And there's things that can do to ease
- 1:40Speaker 2: up the gas prices. And by the way, it doesn't
- 1:42Speaker 2: affect the US as much because we don't really buy
- 1:44Speaker 2: that gas. The gas coming out of Iran usually goes
- 1:47Speaker 2: to India, China and other countries. We got enough gas
- 1:51Speaker 2: to supply ourselves for the next hundred years here in
- 1:53Speaker 2: this country. They've lifted sanctions on Russian oil for a month.
- 2:01Speaker 2: That way the market will get flooded with more Russian oil.
- 2:05Speaker 2: The fact that they lifted the sanctions on Russia for
- 2:07Speaker 2: a month indicates that maybe Russia is helping us with
- 2:11Speaker 2: some things in Iran. Putin and Trump have been talking,
- 2:15Speaker 2: so that gesture from Trump might be in exchange for
- 2:19Speaker 2: whatever help Putin has offered. Russian oil, by the way,
- 2:23Speaker 2: is dirty, very hard to refine. It's the last oil
- 2:26Speaker 2: you want to use, so we don't use it, but
- 2:28Speaker 2: it's oil that China and other countries will use. The
- 2:33Speaker 2: visit to China, by the way, Trump, President Trump scheduled
- 2:36Speaker 2: to visit China in a couple of weeks. Looks like
- 2:38Speaker 2: that's probably going to get postponed. It wouldn't make sense
- 2:42Speaker 2: to visit at a time like this, and security wise
- 2:45Speaker 2: a nightmare trying to protect the president and all of this.
- 2:49Speaker 2: You don't really know where China stands on this whole
- 2:51Speaker 2: Iran mess. The Iatola son Iotola Junior, supposedly the new leader.
- 2:58Speaker 2: Nobody has seen him. He was blown up in one
- 3:03Speaker 2: of those bombing attacks, lost a leg, has been in
- 3:07Speaker 2: a coma, facial damage. So you know, when you talk
- 3:11Speaker 2: about the cost of the war. By the way, we
- 3:13Speaker 2: got the number the cost of the war so far,
- 3:15Speaker 2: twelve billion dollars. Twelve billion dollars is the cost so far.
- 3:20Speaker 2: And that's a little less than a billion dollars a day.
- 3:24Speaker 2: It's expensive, but worth it for what you'll get out
- 3:26Speaker 2: of this. You're totally disarming a rand, which is by
- 3:29Speaker 2: the way, the first objective. Take away all the threats,
- 3:32Speaker 2: the nuclear threat, the missile threat, all that sort of stuff.
- 3:36Speaker 2: That's been accomplished. So it cost us twelve billion. But
- 3:41Speaker 2: look at the Iatola cost him an arm and a leg.
- 3:43Speaker 2: But now the other thing about the Ayatola, the sun
- 3:48Speaker 2: Is intelligence supports are that he's gay. President Trump laughed
- 3:54Speaker 2: out loud when he heard this, because the Iyahtola himself
- 4:00Speaker 2: leaved in death for gay people. Sodomy is illegal and
- 4:03Speaker 2: a capital offence in Iran. Being gay is illegal in Iran,
- 4:07Speaker 2: and it was always said that he didn't want his
- 4:09Speaker 2: son to succeed him, and that could be why gay
- 4:14Speaker 2: is considered a horrible thing in Iran. It's a crime.
- 4:16Speaker 2: You go to jail or actually you get hanged for
- 4:19Speaker 2: being gay. And so it's a strange situation over there.
- 4:24Speaker 2: Iran lashing out. This is their last gasp. They've bombed
- 4:29Speaker 2: hit the Dubai airport with a drone, a lot of
- 4:32Speaker 2: people that were happened to be in Dubai tourist business whatever,
- 4:36Speaker 2: having no idea this war would break out. And it's
- 4:39Speaker 2: been very, very bad in Dubai and other places, but
- 4:44Speaker 2: things calming down. They do have, apparently Iran quite an
- 4:48Speaker 2: inventory of drones, so we're gonna have to take those out.
- 4:51Speaker 2: Drones are a problem, but bit by bit they'll get
- 4:55Speaker 2: them all. There is a marine expeditionary force that's going there,
- 5:00Speaker 2: twenty five hundred marines. Now, what this will be used
- 5:02Speaker 2: for is a rapid strike force. When this is in
- 5:07Speaker 2: part to open the Straits of Hormoose. Sometimes these speed
- 5:10Speaker 2: boats are these unmanned boats come flying off the coast
- 5:14Speaker 2: to hit anything going to the Straits of horm Moose. Well,
- 5:17Speaker 2: when they do this, they can see where it came from.
- 5:19Speaker 2: The strike force will quickly go ashore, take it out
- 5:22Speaker 2: and quickly leave. So it's a strike force that would
- 5:25Speaker 2: only go in for like an hour half an hour
- 5:27Speaker 2: and be out, So probably the Straits of Hormose's. First
- 5:32Speaker 2: of all, if you could even move the tankers, you
- 5:34Speaker 2: could have naval escorts, and that's been done in the past.
- 5:38Speaker 2: The insurance companies are holding this up. It's basically Lloyd's
- 5:42Speaker 2: of London and the tanker companies. They don't want to
- 5:46Speaker 2: lose a tanker because a tanker, the actual tanker costs
- 5:50Speaker 2: about one hundred and ten million dollars. The oil on
- 5:54Speaker 2: board could be worth one hundred and fifty million, so
- 5:56Speaker 2: that's two hundred and fifty million you'd lose in the tanker.
- 5:59Speaker 2: But more than that, each tanker has a crew of
- 6:02Speaker 2: thirty people. And that's the problem with the insurance companies.
- 6:05Speaker 2: It's not so much the oil or the tanker. That's
- 6:08Speaker 2: the loss of life. That's where insurance companies have real problems,
- 6:12Speaker 2: and they don't want to get involved in that. So
- 6:13Speaker 2: you could lose thirty lives because when you hit a tanker,
- 6:16Speaker 2: it just blow up and kill everybody. So that's that's
- 6:20Speaker 2: the problem. But expect the straits of horn Moovese to
- 6:22Speaker 2: be open within days, not weeks. It's been closed before
- 6:26Speaker 2: every war. Every war we get into in that region,
- 6:29Speaker 2: straits of horn Moose gets closed, it gets mined. Remember
- 6:31Speaker 2: the tanker wars was closed for a while, So it's
- 6:35Speaker 2: happened before. It'll happen again. The Epstein files, we'll get
- 6:43Speaker 2: to that coming up. Some really amazing names coming out
- 6:46Speaker 2: of there. He speaking of the Iran War, the best
- 6:49Speaker 2: poster in the world, John McLaughlin. Do people support this
- 6:53Speaker 2: war in Iran? Yes, almost sixty percent fifty eight percent.
- 6:57Speaker 2: Fifty eight percent of the public fifty eight percent back
- 7:01Speaker 2: of the war, and even stronger majority sixty one percent
- 7:07Speaker 2: say that we must finish the job, so the public
- 7:10Speaker 2: is behind it. Oscar's last night, Well, Conan O'Brien, everybody
- 7:16Speaker 2: thought he did a great job. They don't make an
- 7:19Speaker 2: Oscar host anymore. The Oscar host used to be the
- 7:23Speaker 2: most legendary, biggest comedian on earth. It was Bob Hope
- 7:26Speaker 2: for years. It was Johnny Carson for years, and by
- 7:29Speaker 2: the way, we'll talk about Johnny Carson in the next hour.
- 7:32Speaker 2: And you don't have people like that anymore. You got,
- 7:36Speaker 2: you know, this great comedian, Sebastian Maniscalco and people like that,
- 7:39Speaker 2: but they're not legendary, monumental Mount Rushmore type comedians that
- 7:44Speaker 2: they're just not of that stature. There's nobody of that
- 7:46Speaker 2: statue anymore. So Conan comes closest, not that he was
- 7:50Speaker 2: of that stature, but in today's crazy world, of all
- 7:54Speaker 2: these people show up in the oscars and you don't
- 7:55Speaker 2: know who the hell they are, Conan's the only one
- 7:57Speaker 2: you know, and the only one that's been around for
- 8:00Speaker 2: a while. And he's geeky and gawky, but he has
- 8:03Speaker 2: a certain confidence on stage and the way he moves
- 8:06Speaker 2: it's a confident kind of look. So and he's funny
- 8:11Speaker 2: and listen. He's not hysterical, but he's funny. He was
- 8:15Speaker 2: a good MC.
- 8:16Speaker 4: I'm honored to be the last human host of the
- 8:19Speaker 4: Academy Award. Yeah yeah, next year it's going to be
- 8:26Speaker 4: a way mow In.
- 8:27Speaker 2: A toughs not bad so. And he's got a charm
- 8:31Speaker 2: and a warmth about him, unlike that Jimmy Kimmel who
- 8:34Speaker 2: comes out and it's like a dark cloud that just
- 8:36Speaker 2: comes out. He's just a angry, bitter looking, angry guy.
- 8:40Speaker 2: He's not there to entertain you. He's not there to
- 8:43Speaker 2: have fun. He's there to scold you, lecture you, tell
- 8:46Speaker 2: you how much smarter he is. So he did attack
- 8:49Speaker 2: CBS News. There was a presenter or two that yelled
- 8:54Speaker 2: free Palestine or something so that. I mean, they just
- 8:56Speaker 2: look like idiots and they do that Barbara streisand that
- 8:59Speaker 2: was quite a moment for half the audience. The other
- 9:02Speaker 2: half of the audience don't know. They didn't know who
- 9:04Speaker 2: the hell she was. And that's the problem. You know,
- 9:07Speaker 2: you watch the Oscars, you go, who are these people?
- 9:09Speaker 2: I don't watch the Red carpet. I don't know any
- 9:11Speaker 2: of these people, these current celebrities, who are they? I
- 9:16Speaker 2: don't know any of it. Well, for people under forty
- 9:18Speaker 2: when Streisand comes out, let's say, people under thirty five,
- 9:21Speaker 2: when Streisand comes out, they don't know who this is.
- 9:23Speaker 2: They have no idea who this is. And she's talking
- 9:26Speaker 2: about Robert Redford. They don't even know who that so,
- 9:29Speaker 2: and apparently Jane Fonda was very upset, very upset that
- 9:35Speaker 2: Streisand did the tribute to Robert Redford and said to
- 9:39Speaker 2: people at the party afterwards, she said, I did four
- 9:42Speaker 2: movies with him, She only did one. Hell was she
- 9:44Speaker 2: doing the tribute? They wanted her to sing. She wasn't
- 9:47Speaker 2: going to sing. She finally did sing like half of
- 9:50Speaker 2: the way we were So that wasn't bad. Tribute to
- 9:53Speaker 2: Rob Reiner. He had some big memoriams this year. Billy
- 9:57Speaker 2: Crystal was Reiner's best friend. He did that for us.
- 10:01Speaker 3: Who had the privilege of working with and knowing him
- 10:04Speaker 3: and loving him.
- 10:06Speaker 4: All we can say is, buddy, what fun we had
- 10:10Speaker 4: storming the Castle?
- 10:12Speaker 2: Yeah, some good moments. It was about a three hour show,
- 10:15Speaker 2: two hours and forty five minutes. We didn't get the
- 10:18Speaker 2: ratings yet, but it's not you know, it's not gonna
- 10:20Speaker 2: be like in There were times where eight hundred million
- 10:23Speaker 2: people around the world would see the Oscars, fifty sixty
- 10:26Speaker 2: seventy five million in this country would see the Oscars.
- 10:29Speaker 2: It's going to come in at like eight nine million.
- 10:32Speaker 2: And it's not what it used to be. And people
- 10:34Speaker 2: don't go to the theaters much anymore. They stay home.
- 10:37Speaker 2: They watch Netflix, and I don't blame them. Why should
- 10:39Speaker 2: you go to a theater and you can watch a
- 10:41Speaker 2: million things? You know, you look what's playing at the theater?
- 10:44Speaker 2: Four choices? Go on Netflix, what's playing forty thousand choices?
- 10:50Speaker 2: And you can watch them the comfort of your own home.
- 10:52Speaker 2: The chairman of Netflix was there in the Oscars. Conan
- 10:55Speaker 2: O'Brien looked at him.
- 10:56Speaker 4: Netflix CEO Ted Sorrandos is here and this is exciting.
- 11:01Speaker 4: It's his first time in a theater.
- 11:07Speaker 5: This is what they're talking about.
- 11:11Speaker 4: Why are they altogether and joining them? Felts At be
- 11:15Speaker 4: holding on.
- 11:18Speaker 2: Well, I can mortify that, all right, that's pretty good.
- 11:21Speaker 2: That's pretty good. More Conan.
- 11:22Speaker 4: It's the first time since twenty twelve, first time since
- 11:26Speaker 4: twenty twelve that there are no British actors nominated for
- 11:30Speaker 4: Best Actor or Best Actress. Yeah, British spokesperson said, yeah, well,
- 11:36Speaker 4: at least we arrest our pedophiles.
- 11:39Speaker 3: So you got that.
- 11:42Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know what that means. We did arrest Epstein,
- 11:46Speaker 2: he's our pedophile. We did arrest him. In fact, he
- 11:50Speaker 2: died in jail. Actually we arrested him, prosecuted him twice.
- 11:54Speaker 2: Jesse Buckley, Big Winner, Best Actress.
- 11:58Speaker 6: It's Mother's Day in the UK today, so I would
- 12:06Speaker 6: like to dedicate this to the beautiful chaos of a
- 12:10Speaker 6: mother's heart.
- 12:11Speaker 2: Yeah. I was at an oscar party, hundreds of people
- 12:14Speaker 2: and they're all saying, who's Jesse Buckley? What movie he
- 12:19Speaker 2: was on? Amy Madigan want I hate these kind of speeches.
- 12:22Speaker 2: You know, if you want to thank the director, if
- 12:25Speaker 2: you want to thank the writer, but when you start
- 12:28Speaker 2: thanking your family, we don't need to hear this, do it.
- 12:31Speaker 7: The most important is my beloved Ed.
- 12:36Speaker 2: This is what I mean. I'm sure Adds a nice guy.
- 12:38Speaker 2: We don't know who the hell Ed is. Nobody knows that.
- 12:41Speaker 2: Do we need to hear all about Ed?
- 12:42Speaker 7: The most important is my beloved Ed, who's been with
- 12:51Speaker 7: me forever and that's a long time and none of
- 12:56Speaker 7: us would mean anything if he wasn't By my side.
- 13:00Speaker 7: Thank you very much. I'm very overwhelmed.
- 13:03Speaker 2: Millions of people watching don't know who the hell she is.
- 13:06Speaker 2: They never heard of Ed. None of this would have
- 13:09Speaker 2: happened without Ed. You know what, I bet it would
- 13:11Speaker 2: have happened without Ed. You could have married a guy
- 13:13Speaker 2: named Frank, an name named Jesse. It might have happened.
- 13:17Speaker 2: I don't know if it's all Ed. Michael B. Jeordan,
- 13:19Speaker 2: everybody liked him again. One of those speeches mentioned too
- 13:22Speaker 2: many names, but seemed like a really sweet, lovable guy.
- 13:25Speaker 8: Sidney Potsier, Denzel Washington, how many day Jamie Fox, Forrest Whitaker,
- 13:30Speaker 8: Will Smith, And to be amongst those giants, amongst those
- 13:34Speaker 8: great greats, amongst my ancestors, amongst my guys. Thank you
- 13:37Speaker 8: everybody in his room and everybody at home for supporting
- 13:40Speaker 8: me over my career.
- 13:41Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, he seemed like a really nice guy.
- 13:43Speaker 2: I won for the movie, and I don't know any
- 13:45Speaker 2: of these movies Hamnet with the hel'se Hamnet. And what
- 13:48Speaker 2: did he win for? Was it sinister? I don't know
- 13:52Speaker 2: who knows what movie? Sinners, Sinners. I've never heard of
- 13:55Speaker 2: any these movies. The only one I saw was Marty
- 13:58Speaker 2: Supreme and it didn't. But it got nine nominations. It
- 14:02Speaker 2: didn't win mainly because well, there were a lot of
- 14:06Speaker 2: Timothy Shamalay kind of made a fool out of himself
- 14:08Speaker 2: during his Oscar campaign that screwed things up, and critics
- 14:13Speaker 2: always says said it was too dark. It was nobody,
- 14:15Speaker 2: nobody to really root for in the film. So that
- 14:18Speaker 2: could be. Hey, we'll get to Epstein coming up. Boy,
- 14:23Speaker 2: some of the names that come out in their deep
- 14:25Speaker 2: pack show pra ooh does he look bad in the
- 14:28Speaker 2: Epstein files. There's a few others like that. We'll get
- 14:30Speaker 2: to all of that coming up, and we'll get to
- 14:32Speaker 2: the TSA. The strike continues. Democrats are going to get
- 14:36Speaker 2: a lot of flak for they've been offered three chances
- 14:39Speaker 2: to reopen the partial shutdown, reopen that Department of Homeland Security,
- 14:44Speaker 2: which is TSA, Coast Guard a lot of vital stuff,
- 14:48Speaker 2: but they won't do it. TSA. We lost three hundred
- 14:51Speaker 2: TSA agents. The other problem, who has sympathy for the TSA.
- 14:56Speaker 2: These are the guys that keep you in line for
- 14:57Speaker 2: an hour and a three hours and pat you down.
- 15:00Speaker 2: But got to get that reopen anyway. We've got a
- 15:03Speaker 2: lot to get to. We'll get to crazy Mom Donnie
- 15:06Speaker 2: and all his nonsensical lunatic ideas. Tomorrow's Saint Patrick's day.
- 15:11Speaker 2: Don't even think of coming into Manhattan tomorrow. It's gonna
- 15:13Speaker 2: be a traffic nightmare. Today is going to be a rainy,
- 15:16Speaker 2: windy mess. But sixty degrees. We'll take some calls. Next.
- 15:19Speaker 2: Eight hundred three two one zero seven ten is the
- 15:23Speaker 2: number eight hundred three two one zero seven ten.
- 15:28Speaker 1: In Mark on Demand by setting up presead for his
- 15:32Speaker 1: podcast on the iHeartRadio app. Now back to Mark Simone on.
- 15:36Speaker 2: Wr Hey, let's take some calls. Let's go to Patricia
- 15:42Speaker 2: in Brooklyn. Patricia, how you doing?
- 15:44Speaker 9: Oh, dear Mark, listen. I wrote to the President and
- 15:48Speaker 9: I you know, I said that I welco him, you know,
- 15:52Speaker 9: stuff like that.
- 15:53Speaker 10: But I also.
- 15:54Speaker 9: Absolutely mentioned you. You got me through the pandemic.
- 15:59Speaker 4: I mean you, I mean.
- 16:01Speaker 9: Through the craziest times where I thought, what the hell
- 16:04Speaker 9: is going on? I got the most beautiful letter back
- 16:07Speaker 9: from the President. Don't think he doesn't know what you
- 16:10Speaker 9: do for the New Yorkers. God bless you, Mark, I
- 16:14Speaker 9: love you.
- 16:14Speaker 2: What did he say?
- 16:18Speaker 5: Thank you for you?
- 16:19Speaker 9: I mean I'm just powerful. Thank you for your letter.
- 16:22Speaker 4: It was you know, it was very powerful.
- 16:24Speaker 2: Thank you for your letter. What a response?
- 16:29Speaker 9: Are you making fun of me? That's none?
- 16:31Speaker 11: Nice?
- 16:31Speaker 4: Hello?
- 16:31Speaker 3: Hello, Well you know it's a letter.
- 16:35Speaker 9: All keep until the day I die, and I thank
- 16:38Speaker 9: you for everything you have done for us.
- 16:41Speaker 2: Well, I thank you. I thank you for listening. You're
- 16:44Speaker 2: a good friend of ours. And thanks for listening.
- 16:48Speaker 9: Thank you, thank you so much more.
- 16:50Speaker 2: All right, take care.
- 16:51Speaker 10: Thanks.
- 16:52Speaker 2: You know, if you write a letter to the president,
- 16:55Speaker 2: to any president, you'll get a letter back. I don't
- 16:57Speaker 2: know if he sees it or if he writes it,
- 16:58Speaker 2: but it's a great thing to do. Now, if you
- 17:00Speaker 2: go over there, two blocks in around the corner, there's
- 17:04Speaker 2: a shirt maker and it's a smart thing to do.
- 17:07Speaker 2: This shirt maker writes to every president, whoever's in office,
- 17:11Speaker 2: and sends like four shirts, and a letter comes back
- 17:15Speaker 2: from the president. It's not really from the President's somebody
- 17:17Speaker 2: in the White House. Dear so and so, thank you
- 17:20Speaker 2: for the shirts. I love them. I'm going to wear
- 17:21Speaker 2: them all the time. So then he puts these up.
- 17:24Speaker 2: Now the president has never seen the letter, never seen
- 17:26Speaker 2: the shirts, but he puts them up in his window
- 17:28Speaker 2: with a big sign shirt maker to four presidents. So yeah,
- 17:32Speaker 2: I just gave a lot of people a lot of ideas, right,
- 17:34Speaker 2: and you'll get a letter back. Let's go to Bill
- 17:36Speaker 2: and Lafayette, New Jersey. Bill, how you doing.
- 17:39Speaker 3: Okay?
- 17:40Speaker 5: Mark?
- 17:40Speaker 3: You know you were talking about the Oscars last night,
- 17:42Speaker 3: which I did not watch. When talent used to be
- 17:45Speaker 3: real talent, when you used to have Jonathan Winter's, Johnny Cartson,
- 17:51Speaker 3: like you said, and the good I don't know if
- 17:54Speaker 3: you remember that first Today show was hunketed by Dave
- 17:57Speaker 3: Garaway and then Jack Barr. But you have Gun Will Travel.
- 18:01Speaker 3: You had Mickey Mouse, Ed Sullivan, Gun Smoke, Lassie Rin Tintin.
- 18:08Speaker 2: Well, I gotta be honest. You know some of those
- 18:10Speaker 2: shows they weren't They called it the Golden Age that
- 18:12Speaker 2: Lassie I never understood. I mean, there was about this
- 18:16Speaker 2: kid who kept falling down a well. This kid got
- 18:19Speaker 2: stuck under a tree. Every two seconds, a kid needed
- 18:22Speaker 2: to be rescued by Lassie. The dog was smarter than
- 18:25Speaker 2: the kid.
- 18:26Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what it was about. It was
- 18:28Speaker 3: about innocence and kids today that were my that are
- 18:33Speaker 3: eight nine ten. Back then I was allowed to keep
- 18:37Speaker 3: my innocence and not be soiled by the crap that
- 18:41Speaker 3: you see the see on TV today.
- 18:44Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. That's a very good point.
- 18:46Speaker 2: You know, there was an innocence to it, you know,
- 18:48Speaker 2: like Breaking Bad is a brilliant show. It's as good
- 18:51Speaker 2: as anything ever on television. But you're right, it's so dirty, disgusting, horrifying.
- 18:56Speaker 2: I mean, you watch a few episodes of that, you
- 18:58Speaker 2: have nightmares all night. Let's go to Mike and Florida. Mike,
- 19:02Speaker 2: how you doing, Good morning, Mark, that's Mike.
- 19:06Speaker 5: I'm with you on some of those old shows. I
- 19:08Speaker 5: watched them down here, Bailey and Boy, some of them
- 19:12Speaker 5: are really rotten there, so stiff and stilted. But getting
- 19:18Speaker 5: back to the Oscars, by the way, I think Ed
- 19:20Speaker 5: is Ed Harris, who, to your point, nobody remembers as
- 19:23Speaker 5: an actor.
- 19:24Speaker 2: I know who he was. Yeah, it was a pretty
- 19:26Speaker 2: good actor, Glengarry, Glenn Ross and the right stuff I
- 19:29Speaker 2: think was right.
- 19:31Speaker 5: The right stuff I was thinking of Paul thy team,
- 19:33Speaker 5: the right stuff. Okay, but you know you're you're an EMC,
- 19:37Speaker 5: and you know you know when Hope did it and
- 19:39Speaker 5: when Caught did it, they would have quit the essential
- 19:41Speaker 5: mcs to these events. They moved it along. You know,
- 19:45Speaker 5: they know they're playing to like a dumb, needy, vapid audience,
- 19:48Speaker 5: and they kept this stuff simple and it was much
- 19:51Speaker 5: more enjoyable.
- 19:54Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's just it was different. Back then.
- 19:56Speaker 2: We all knew who everybody was. Today it's all fragmented.
- 19:59Speaker 2: You don't know who the any of these p people are.
- 20:01Speaker 5: That's true, A really good point. I don't any of
- 20:04Speaker 5: them are.
- 20:05Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well thanks for calling. That's the problem.
- 20:07Speaker 2: It's so fragmented. You don't know who anybody is anymore,
- 20:11Speaker 2: even when you watch it. If you start watching the
- 20:13Speaker 2: series and you love it, you tell people about it.
- 20:15Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about. They'll tell you
- 20:17Speaker 2: about the series they're watching. You never heard of that one.
- 20:21Speaker 2: It's a real problem now. Same thing with the radio.
- 20:25Speaker 2: Look at podcasts. Do you know how many podcasts there are?
- 20:29Speaker 2: I think it's two million. Now, there are two million
- 20:31Speaker 2: podcasts out there right now. By the way, this show
- 20:34Speaker 2: ends up this week and almost every week in the
- 20:36Speaker 2: top fifty out of those two million. But there's two
- 20:40Speaker 2: million podcasts, and nobody can keep track of all of them.
- 20:44Speaker 4: You know.
- 20:46Speaker 2: The other thing we're talking about that golden age of
- 20:47Speaker 2: television because you watch I Love Lucy and The Dick
- 20:51Speaker 2: Van Dyke Show, and you ed saw me. Wow, it
- 20:54Speaker 2: was a golden age. Tell you're forgetting there were hundreds
- 20:58Speaker 2: of shows back on back then. You're only seeing like
- 21:01Speaker 2: the top twenty of the hundred. There were plenty of
- 21:03Speaker 2: bad shows back then. There was a million other sitcoms
- 21:07Speaker 2: that stunk. If you watch them today, you can't believe
- 21:09Speaker 2: how bad they are. So you're only saying the absolute
- 21:12Speaker 2: cream of the crop from the fifties and the sixties.
- 21:15Speaker 2: In the seventies. You know, you see some of the
- 21:16Speaker 2: seventies shows, Boy were they great. But go back to
- 21:19Speaker 2: actually the nineteen seventies, ninety percent of what was on
- 21:22Speaker 2: television was so horrifying it could never be real anywhere.
- 21:25Speaker 2: It was just bad, cheesy stuff. Hey, the greatest columnist
- 21:29Speaker 2: in the in the country, Michael Goodwin, he'll be with
- 21:32Speaker 2: us next and he'd been the second hour. We'll get
- 21:35Speaker 2: to Johnny Carson, the side of him. You may not
- 21:38Speaker 2: know there was a dark side there you We'll get
- 21:40Speaker 2: to that coming up in the second hour. But Michael
- 21:43Speaker 2: goodwani'll be with us next on seven to ten. WR
- 21:46Speaker 2: you're listening.
- 21:47Speaker 1: To Mark the most show only you.
- 21:50Speaker 2: Are well the best columnist in America. Michael Goodwin every
- 21:55Speaker 2: Sunday and every Wednesday in the New York Post. You
- 21:59Speaker 2: can get all of calms. They're up on the New
- 22:01Speaker 2: York Post website. Michael Goodwin, How you.
- 22:03Speaker 11: Doing, Good morning? Mark?
- 22:05Speaker 2: Thank you. You're right about the media. It's hard to
- 22:09Speaker 2: run a democracy without legitimate media, isn't it. The what
- 22:12Speaker 2: side are they on here?
- 22:14Speaker 11: Well, that's the question, right the uh you know, talking
- 22:18Speaker 11: about the terror attacks, in particular the one into synagogue
- 22:23Speaker 11: in Michigan where a lot of the big outlets at TVs.
- 22:28Speaker 11: Of course, the New York Times stuck with this bland
- 22:33Speaker 11: thing that that the attacker had lost relatives in Lebanon,
- 22:39Speaker 11: but the Israeli media beat them to the pond. Same
- 22:43Speaker 11: Wait a minute, His relatives were members of Hezblah, that's
- 22:47Speaker 11: why they were killed, and that, of course it took
- 22:52Speaker 11: The New York Time on Saturday was still reporting all
- 22:55Speaker 11: the poor guy he lost relatives. Talking about an official
- 23:01Speaker 11: in the town where this bombing happened, he said, oh,
- 23:07Speaker 11: I can't tell you anymore. He was afraid of retaliation. Now,
- 23:11Speaker 11: who would he be afraid of retaliation from? Of course
- 23:16Speaker 11: hezeb lah. But the New York Times never made the
- 23:19Speaker 11: connection because why ruin a perfectly good story that makes
- 23:24Speaker 11: America look bad?
- 23:25Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's out and out deception. His relatives were
- 23:28Speaker 2: Hesbela terrorists. Israel stopped him. The Times they knew all this.
- 23:37Speaker 2: Sec chair car talking about sanctioning some of these media outlets.
- 23:40Speaker 2: He's right, isn't he.
- 23:42Speaker 11: Well? Look, I think I'm not certain of the legal
- 23:46Speaker 11: definitions in these cases. But look, I do think that
- 23:52Speaker 11: the anti American tone, the anti Israeli tone, of much
- 23:56Speaker 11: of the American media is unfooled to display in their
- 24:01Speaker 11: coverage of the war. I mean, you do often wonder
- 24:05Speaker 11: whose side are they on?
- 24:07Speaker 2: Yeah, whose side are they on? They're just on the
- 24:10Speaker 2: Democrat side. They'll just say anything bad about things when
- 24:13Speaker 2: the Republican Isn't Is it that simple?
- 24:16Speaker 11: Well, I think that's the kind of the spear. The
- 24:21Speaker 11: tip of the spear is that they hate Donald Trump,
- 24:24Speaker 11: and so anything that would make him look good then
- 24:29Speaker 11: has to be you know, defeated in an argument. And
- 24:33Speaker 11: of course, in the case of war, you are effectively
- 24:38Speaker 11: not just going after the president you're going after the
- 24:42Speaker 11: American military and America itself. That's what we're seeing here.
- 24:47Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 24:49Speaker 11: Look, they don't have to become but they have to
- 24:53Speaker 11: release the fair and accurate in their reporting. But rather
- 24:58Speaker 11: they're rushing to judgment in ways that suit their agenda,
- 25:03Speaker 11: not the facts.
- 25:04Speaker 2: Now, Michael Goodwin, you used to work at the New
- 25:06Speaker 2: York Times, do you? Yes, it was not like this.
- 25:10Speaker 11: It was a little No, it's a very different place.
- 25:12Speaker 11: And I you know, Mike, I still many of the
- 25:15Speaker 11: things that I still go by in my own work
- 25:19Speaker 11: I learned at the New York Times. I mean the
- 25:22Speaker 11: idea that you don't you don't assume what's in someone's head.
- 25:28Speaker 11: And I would like our listeners to this. Gaze at
- 25:31Speaker 11: the front page of the New York Times one day
- 25:34Speaker 11: or any of their stories about Trump and Republicans, and
- 25:38Speaker 11: they are telling you what they're thinking. Their motives are
- 25:42Speaker 11: always the focus of the attack. It's not that they
- 25:46Speaker 11: wanted to do the best. They wanted to do the worst.
- 25:49Speaker 11: They wanted to do this their self enriching or whatever.
- 25:53Speaker 11: It's constantly an attack on motives. When I was at
- 25:57Speaker 11: the New York Times, there was an open rule you
- 26:00Speaker 11: don't go after someone's motives because you're not a mind reader.
- 26:05Speaker 11: Neither are you a detective.
- 26:07Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, hey, mayor mom, Donnie trying to Olive branch
- 26:12Speaker 2: wants to meet with Jewish leaders. Then they find out
- 26:15Speaker 2: he's only going to be there briefly. It was obviously
- 26:17Speaker 2: just a photo op. What is wrong with this guy?
- 26:20Speaker 2: How hard would it be to actually sit down for
- 26:22Speaker 2: an hour and listen to people?
- 26:24Speaker 11: Yeah, it's a you know, I think he's thinking himself
- 26:28Speaker 11: a very deep hole in a lot of ways. Mark,
- 26:31Speaker 11: He seems sort of not to care about the basic
- 26:35Speaker 11: things that a mayor is elected to do. He seems
- 26:39Speaker 11: to be off on his own tension, and there doesn't
- 26:42Speaker 11: seem to be any real filter between what he says
- 26:47Speaker 11: what he does. With a larger reality in the city
- 26:53Speaker 11: is about full steam ahead on the radical socialist agenda.
- 26:59Speaker 11: And you know, also with a Muslim situation, he's quick
- 27:04Speaker 11: to criticize everybody else, but very slow on that side.
- 27:09Speaker 11: So it does look like he's playing favorites. Yeah, in
- 27:14Speaker 11: a very dangerous and volatile situation.
- 27:18Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think he realizes a job number one,
- 27:21Speaker 2: fill the potholes, you know, get the trains, move all
- 27:24Speaker 2: that sort of th.
- 27:24Speaker 11: That's right, that's right. Yeah, when you get too far
- 27:28Speaker 11: off the core issues that a mayor is elected to do,
- 27:32Speaker 11: that's when you really fail. You mean, you come up
- 27:35Speaker 11: empty handed and you get entangled in all these disputes
- 27:39Speaker 11: that ultimately are meaningless about the job.
- 27:43Speaker 2: And he's back to this closed Rikers island. I mean,
- 27:45Speaker 2: there's no more perfect spot for a prison than on
- 27:48Speaker 2: an island, and he wants to move them into the boroughs.
- 27:51Speaker 2: This is the foremost crazy idea to Blasio's crazy idea.
- 27:55Speaker 11: What's the s Yeah, I agree. I do think the
- 27:58Speaker 11: one thing that really will stop that would be the
- 28:02Speaker 11: cost of building those jails and the community opposition. Nobody
- 28:08Speaker 11: wants a jail in their neighborhood, so I think that
- 28:12Speaker 11: will to me run into reality and as it did
- 28:16Speaker 11: with build a Bosio and Eric Adams never really embraced
- 28:20Speaker 11: that idea. But I'm not surprised that Mom donney thinks
- 28:24Speaker 11: it's just a swell thing to do.
- 28:26Speaker 2: Yeah, So will this get better or worse? Will he
- 28:29Speaker 2: start to will those big special interests, real estate guys,
- 28:32Speaker 2: unions start to dangle things in front of maybe get
- 28:36Speaker 2: him in line will it improve it all?
- 28:39Speaker 11: Well, I think the one break on a lot of
- 28:42Speaker 11: his stuff, Mark is going to be the budget, you know,
- 28:47Speaker 11: the downgrade from from you know stable too. I think
- 28:52Speaker 11: a negative outlook on the credit It doesn't mean we're
- 28:56Speaker 11: approaching bankruptcy. But it's the kind of kind of warning
- 29:00Speaker 11: signed that all mayors of all parties have adhered to
- 29:05Speaker 11: since the fiscal crisis of the seventies. That was the
- 29:08Speaker 11: great learning moment about the dangers of losing access to
- 29:13Speaker 11: the credit markets and being viewed as the spend for
- 29:18Speaker 11: its Well, that is the sort of thing that he
- 29:21Speaker 11: does not pay attention to. It. It could undermine everything
- 29:24Speaker 11: he wants to do, in part because all of his
- 29:28Speaker 11: ideas are big ticket items, very expensive. So and I
- 29:33Speaker 11: think if he gets any of his taxes, he's going
- 29:36Speaker 11: to find he probably collects the less money rather the more,
- 29:41Speaker 11: because you're going to drive people out of the city.
- 29:44Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 29:44Speaker 2: Well, Michael Goodwin, great stuff. Everybody go read his column.
- 29:47Speaker 2: You can read his Calm every Sunday and every Wednesday
- 29:50Speaker 2: in the New York Post. But all the coms are
- 29:52Speaker 2: up on the website. You can go New York Posts
- 29:54Speaker 2: website and read them. Michael Goodwin. Thanks for being with us.
- 29:57Speaker 11: Oh, it's a pleasure.
- 29:58Speaker 10: Thank you.
- 29:59Speaker 2: Mark, take care. Hey, coming up, don't forget at noon,
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- 30:22Speaker 1: Wo News breaks out in every show, Mark Simone on
- 30:27Speaker 1: seven ten, wor.
- 30:31Speaker 2: Well, Hey, coming up for the next hour, I'll talk
- 30:34Speaker 2: about the Oscars. We'll also talk about Johnny Carson, one
- 30:36Speaker 2: of the great Oscar hosts for many, many, many years.
- 30:39Speaker 2: And we've talked about him before, but usually the stuff
- 30:43Speaker 2: you think of when you think of Johnny Carson, But
- 30:45Speaker 2: you know, there was another side to him. He was
- 30:47Speaker 2: overall a great guy, wonderful guy. But there was a
- 30:51Speaker 2: period of a lot of womanizing, cheating on his wife.
- 30:55Speaker 2: There was running with the mob where there was a
- 30:59Speaker 2: hit out on him. This is right in the middle
- 31:01Speaker 2: of the tonight show, and he had to go into
- 31:03Speaker 2: hiding for a few days, So we'll get to that
- 31:05Speaker 2: other stuff. And this is not just a cheap tabloid.
- 31:09Speaker 2: I mean, this is the greatest Carson historian has documented
- 31:13Speaker 2: all of this stuff. We'll get to that coming up
- 31:16Speaker 2: in the next hour, and we'll get to crazy mayor Mom,
- 31:18Speaker 2: Donnie floundering around, and we'll get back to Iran and
- 31:22Speaker 2: a whole lot more in Cuba that could be the
- 31:26Speaker 2: next country to get liberated. We'll get to that in
- 31:29Speaker 2: the next hour. Hey, spring begins Friday, so you got Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
- 31:36Speaker 2: you got three more days tomorrow and then spring. It
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- 32:05Speaker 1: Back to Marshamore on wor.
- 32:12Speaker 2: Well, we'll get to Johnny Carson later this hour, Hey,
- 32:15Speaker 2: speaking which Stephen Colbert. Believe it or not, I can
- 32:18Speaker 2: talk to believe it. You went from Johnny Carson to
- 32:20Speaker 2: Stephen Colbert, this angry, bitter little guy with this twisted
- 32:25Speaker 2: up It's called the Late Show, should be called the
- 32:28Speaker 2: Hate Show. It's just this hate filled rant every night.
- 32:31Speaker 2: They fired him. He's gone, he's just working out the
- 32:35Speaker 2: contract which has got This is March April May, so
- 32:39Speaker 2: it's about two more months. But CBS is already erasing
- 32:44Speaker 2: Stephen Colbert from everything they can. If you go into
- 32:48Speaker 2: the Big Broadcast Center fifty seventh and eleventh, when you
- 32:52Speaker 2: walk in there, there's pictures of all the shows. As
- 32:54Speaker 2: you come down the hallway, the pictures of Colbert and
- 32:58Speaker 2: the Late Show have disappeared. They've been taken off the walls.
- 33:02Speaker 2: One insider saying it's it's like it never existed at all.
- 33:06Speaker 2: Every CBS facility everywhere has taken down all the pictures
- 33:09Speaker 2: of Colbert, all the references to Colbert. The network now
- 33:14Speaker 2: confirms that when he goes off the air, there will
- 33:16Speaker 2: be no sendoff, no goodbye party, no anything. They've had
- 33:22Speaker 2: it with this guy. They want nothing to do with him.
- 33:24Speaker 2: He's ruined late night television. Something completely destroyed it. He
- 33:29Speaker 2: was really first to go total hatred, and then Kimmel followed.
- 33:33Speaker 2: Fallon sort of followed, but Fallon's the one guy who
- 33:36Speaker 2: could go back to a regular entertainment show at night
- 33:39Speaker 2: if he wanted to. Kimmel is too far gone. He
- 33:41Speaker 2: just became this angry, bitter guy. Colbert was always just
- 33:46Speaker 2: a hate filled, angry guy. So they can't wait to
- 33:48Speaker 2: get this thing off the air. The Late Show, The
- 33:51Speaker 2: Stephen Colbert Late Show. Now, remember it's in its final
- 33:55Speaker 2: month or two. You know, remember when Johnny Carson announced
- 33:58Speaker 2: he was retiring, and may have why the last few months,
- 34:02Speaker 2: the ratings were through the roof. Everybody wanted to watch
- 34:04Speaker 2: his final shows, and all the biggest stars in the
- 34:08Speaker 2: world wanted to come on. It was quite a ratings
- 34:11Speaker 2: boost those final months. It's just the opposite of the Colbert.
- 34:14Speaker 2: He's going off pretty soon and his final months are
- 34:17Speaker 2: ratings disaster. In fact, the last month was the worst ever,
- 34:21Speaker 2: worst January ever. He had two hundred and eighty five
- 34:25Speaker 2: thousand viewers in the demo. Two hundred and eighty five
- 34:28Speaker 2: thousand in their demo. Now, normally, you know, in the
- 34:31Speaker 2: Carson days, it was eight million, nine million network says
- 34:35Speaker 2: the final show can't come soon enough. Now, when they
- 34:38Speaker 2: take him off the air, they're not going to put
- 34:40Speaker 2: on another talk show. It could be a game show,
- 34:43Speaker 2: or it could be reruns. You know, when The Kimmel
- 34:46Speaker 2: got pulled off the air for a week, they just
- 34:48Speaker 2: ran reruns of Password and it got triple the ratings
- 34:53Speaker 2: of Kimmel, So don't think CBS didn't notice it. And
- 34:56Speaker 2: to run the reruns of Password, it's free, it doesn't
- 34:59Speaker 2: cost anything. So expect Colbert to be replaced with reruns
- 35:04Speaker 2: of a game show or CBS drama or something like that,
- 35:09Speaker 2: and it'll get double triple the ratings at Colbert and
- 35:12Speaker 2: cost nothing. What do they do with that big theater, Well,
- 35:15Speaker 2: they spent a lot of money on that theater through
- 35:17Speaker 2: the years, the Ed Sullivan Theater, and it's a really
- 35:19Speaker 2: good TV studio. So I would imagine CBS keeps it,
- 35:24Speaker 2: uses it to do game shows and that sort of
- 35:27Speaker 2: stuff out of there. Also, you can make a lot
- 35:28Speaker 2: of money renting out the theater as a TV studio.
- 35:31Speaker 2: In fact, before Letterman took it over, in between The
- 35:36Speaker 2: Ed Sullivan Show and Letterman taking it over, that's what
- 35:39Speaker 2: it was. You could rent that theater and millions of
- 35:41Speaker 2: shows were done out of there if you needed to
- 35:43Speaker 2: rent a studio. Hey, you know the show Access Hollywood
- 35:46Speaker 2: gone canceled. Even the top producers were totally unaware it
- 35:51Speaker 2: was going to get canceled. NBC Universal made the decision Friday.
- 35:56Speaker 2: Access Hollywood got a call after nearly thirty years, canceled.
- 36:00Speaker 2: That's it, no more Access Hollywood. Why. Ratings were good,
- 36:05Speaker 2: in fact, they were higher than Extra, but TV viewership,
- 36:10Speaker 2: Network TV viewership is way way way down. A lot
- 36:14Speaker 2: less people watch network TV or local stations TV. That's
- 36:19Speaker 2: who runs all these Access Hollywood. All these local stations
- 36:21Speaker 2: run Access Hollywood and just doesn't pay to do them anymore.
- 36:26Speaker 2: Viewership is way way way down. So Access Hollywood is canceled. Hey,
- 36:32Speaker 2: we're talking about potholes before they're still there. This was
- 36:35Speaker 2: the worst season ever for potholes because of the Remember
- 36:38Speaker 2: the temperature would go from minus fifteen to seventy five
- 36:41Speaker 2: the next day. It's that quick temperature shifts that caused
- 36:44Speaker 2: the potholes, and also the salt and stuff they throw
- 36:47Speaker 2: all over the road. So it's worse than ever. And
- 36:50Speaker 2: apparently they don't have enough people to fix it. The
- 36:52Speaker 2: mayor and others said there'd be two weeks, will fix
- 36:55Speaker 2: all the potholes. It's not getting done. The union that's
- 36:58Speaker 2: in charge of all that says they don't have enough people.
- 37:01Speaker 2: They could use at least two hundred more highway workers
- 37:04Speaker 2: to get the job done. Say it's the biggest crop
- 37:07Speaker 2: of potholes they've seen after this brutal winter. But the
- 37:12Speaker 2: Mamdani promised for two weeks. They say, he is not
- 37:15Speaker 2: going to happen. Just not possible. Hey, so the Epstein files,
- 37:21Speaker 2: there are a lot of people you know. Sometimes you
- 37:24Speaker 2: see these business people are Bill Gates or Bill Clinton.
- 37:26Speaker 2: You're not shocked, and that's how your picture hanging out
- 37:29Speaker 2: with Epstein. But deep pak Chopra his followers stunned, stunned
- 37:38Speaker 2: that he's in there.
- 37:38Speaker 9: Now.
- 37:39Speaker 2: There's some guys that end up in this Epstein file,
- 37:41Speaker 2: like Dick Cavett. You wouldn't expect him to be in there.
- 37:43Speaker 2: Woody Allen, but it's pretty innocent with these two. Woody Allen.
- 37:47Speaker 2: It was remember after the scandal, Woody Allen could not
- 37:50Speaker 2: get any financing to make movies. All the big studios
- 37:55Speaker 2: stopped financing his movies, so he couldn't get movies made
- 37:58Speaker 2: with the big studios or and the Hollywood stuff, so
- 38:01Speaker 2: he had to go out and raise his own money.
- 38:03Speaker 2: And the way you raise money is you find wealthy guys, starstruck,
- 38:07Speaker 2: wealthy guys who want to pretend to be a movie
- 38:09Speaker 2: producer or hang around show business, and they'll finance your movies.
- 38:15Speaker 2: And there's a lot of them, a lot of them,
- 38:17Speaker 2: not just Woody ell a lot of Scorsese's done that
- 38:20Speaker 2: with a few films. You just go find some rich
- 38:22Speaker 2: guys to give you the money. You don't have to
- 38:23Speaker 2: deal with the Hollywood studio. And these rich guys are
- 38:26Speaker 2: just as starstruck as anybody. So that's what Woody Allen
- 38:30Speaker 2: was doing, getting Epstein to finance movies. In exchange, Woody
- 38:36Speaker 2: Allen had to come to his house for a lot
- 38:37Speaker 2: of dinners, a lot of luncheons, and Epstein would invite
- 38:40Speaker 2: all of his friends and you could sit there and
- 38:42Speaker 2: have lunch with Woody Allen, dinner with Woody Allen. It's annoying,
- 38:45Speaker 2: but he was willing to do it to get the financing.
- 38:48Speaker 2: Woody Allen's close friend Dick Caviot got dragged into this.
- 38:52Speaker 2: Why was Cavot doing it? Well, if you read the files,
- 38:54Speaker 2: it looks like Cabot wanted a rich guy to finance
- 38:58Speaker 2: a PBS special he was trying to put together other
- 39:01Speaker 2: Epstein did do that. So that's what I'm now. That's innocent.
- 39:06Speaker 2: D Pac Chopra, the guru who everybody idolized. This guru,
- 39:12Speaker 2: this is different. You can read all the emails. You
- 39:16Speaker 2: can go to the Epstein files. His behavior was pretty
- 39:18Speaker 2: slimy there. He was all over Epstein. Here's one devoted
- 39:24Speaker 2: follower of his on Facebook says, I just looked at
- 39:29Speaker 2: the Chopra emails with Epstein and I am about to
- 39:33Speaker 2: drown in my own vomit. He wants to go away
- 39:38Speaker 2: with Epstein on trips and in the invitation he says
- 39:40Speaker 2: bring your girls. On at least two occasions, Chopra invited
- 39:45Speaker 2: Epstein to join him on trips to Israel in Switzerland,
- 39:49Speaker 2: specifically telling him to bring your girls. In the Israel invitation,
- 39:54Speaker 2: Chopra also suggested Epstein use a fake name if he
- 39:58Speaker 2: wished Chopra. Another one wrote, God is a construct. Cute
- 40:04Speaker 2: girls are real. Yeah, a lot of stuff with women
- 40:08Speaker 2: and Deepak Chopra and then apparently Chopra was quite the
- 40:14Speaker 2: ladies man. In one email, Epstein's texting him, I liked
- 40:19Speaker 2: watching you zero in on your prey made me smile.
- 40:25Speaker 2: The word predator is used. And then there's another one
- 40:29Speaker 2: from Chopra requests for cute girls. He asked if he
- 40:34Speaker 2: had found him acute Israeli while he's over there, Epstein
- 40:37Speaker 2: offered to send two girls to a meditation events Chopra
- 40:42Speaker 2: was hosting, which Chopra accepted, requesting their names for the
- 40:47Speaker 2: guest list. Now what does Chopra say about all this? Well,
- 40:51Speaker 2: he issued a statement on X denying any criminal or
- 40:55Speaker 2: exploiti of contact. He acknowledged that some past email exchanges
- 41:00Speaker 2: reflected poor judgment in tone and expressed regret for how
- 41:05Speaker 2: they might be interpreted. The reports specified that it's unclear
- 41:11Speaker 2: how old the girls were in the message as well
- 41:13Speaker 2: how it might be interpreted. I don't know if when
- 41:17Speaker 2: you're writing Epstein and you say bring your girls, how's
- 41:21Speaker 2: it going to get interpreted? Hey, there was a noted publicist,
- 41:25Speaker 2: Peggy Siegel. I think she's kind of retired now. Peggy's
- 41:28Speaker 2: Siegel throughout the eighties and nineties was the big publicist
- 41:32Speaker 2: for the movie studios through the big, big, big, big
- 41:36Speaker 2: movie premiere parties here in New York. Was the nastiest
- 41:40Speaker 2: person ever, nasty personality. Everybody behind her back, always bad
- 41:46Speaker 2: motter like crazy. But she was quite the publicist. If
- 41:49Speaker 2: it was a big event with big, big names, major
- 41:52Speaker 2: business names, society names, that's who you hired to put
- 41:54Speaker 2: together the party. Well, nobody was more involved with Epstein
- 41:59Speaker 2: than Peggy Siegel. Nobody. It was five thousand emails turned
- 42:05Speaker 2: up just in one year, oh no, ten years, five
- 42:08Speaker 2: thousand emails in ten years. And why would she do
- 42:12Speaker 2: this for Epstein? Well, money, he had what's known as
- 42:16Speaker 2: check's appeal. He would write massive checks. For instance, on
- 42:20Speaker 2: her birthday party, he sent her one hundred thousand dollars
- 42:23Speaker 2: as a gift, that kind of stuff. And every time
- 42:26Speaker 2: he wanted her to put together a party, put together
- 42:28Speaker 2: a dinner party for my birthday, invite all the biggest
- 42:33Speaker 2: names in New York. He sent thirty thousand dollars for
- 42:38Speaker 2: the party they wanted Elton John, So fifteen thousand was
- 42:42Speaker 2: donated to Elton John's charity. A lot of money was spent.
- 42:46Speaker 2: Now she lost. I think a lot of the movie
- 42:49Speaker 2: Studios once it all came out about Epstein, and she's
- 42:53Speaker 2: really the one that got him a lot of big
- 42:55Speaker 2: names in New York, but she's getting a lot of
- 42:58Speaker 2: flak for this now. He's the one that when he
- 43:02Speaker 2: got Prince Andrew at his house. She's the one that
- 43:05Speaker 2: threw the dinner party for Prince Andrew, and she got
- 43:08Speaker 2: George Stefanopolis to come, and Katie Kuric to come and
- 43:13Speaker 2: Stephanoppolis later got a lot of flack for having dinner
- 43:17Speaker 2: at Epstein's house, and he put out some stupid statement about, well,
- 43:21Speaker 2: maybe I should have done my due diligence. Well, he's
- 43:25Speaker 2: supposed to be some sort of a news guy, and
- 43:27Speaker 2: it was in every news outlet in the world that
- 43:30Speaker 2: he was convicted of being a pedophile in prison, So
- 43:34Speaker 2: it wasn't that hard to do the due diligence. But anyway,
- 43:37Speaker 2: we'll do that. Throughout the week, we'll bring you more
- 43:39Speaker 2: of these shocking names that are in the Epstein files. Hey, Cuba, Cuba,
- 43:46Speaker 2: the communist government of Cuba could fall at any moment.
- 43:49Speaker 2: There were riots in the street this weekend. Rioters attacking
- 43:53Speaker 2: a communist party building, entering it throwing everything out the windows.
- 43:58Speaker 2: This is building. It's possible that Iran is liberated. It's
- 44:04Speaker 2: possible Iran gets a new government, is no longer a
- 44:06Speaker 2: brutal terrorist dictatorship. And it's possible in the months ahead,
- 44:11Speaker 2: Cuba gets rid of communism, goes capitalist. Trump would absolutely,
- 44:17Speaker 2: without question, deserve a Nobel Prize for all of this,
- 44:20Speaker 2: because he's been working on this behind the scenes. And
- 44:24Speaker 2: you know, Cuba is a beautiful Caribbean island. It's in
- 44:27Speaker 2: total poverty and decay for decades under communism. If you
- 44:31Speaker 2: liberated it, it would look like Miami. In fact, before
- 44:34Speaker 2: the Communists took over, it looked like Miami. It had
- 44:37Speaker 2: all the same hotels. Same guy that built the Fountain
- 44:40Speaker 2: Blue had a hotel in Cuba. The same guy that
- 44:43Speaker 2: built the Eden Rock had a hotel in Cuba that
- 44:46Speaker 2: was magnificent. Hotels, the most beautiful beaches, gambling casinos, nightclubs.
- 44:51Speaker 2: It could go back to that. It could make a fortune.
- 44:55Speaker 2: So look for that to happen. You know, if they
- 44:59Speaker 2: need somebody to take over and run Iran, who would
- 45:02Speaker 2: do it well, the Sun of the Shaw of Iran.
- 45:04Speaker 2: He's been in this country for forty seven years, Reza
- 45:08Speaker 2: pan La Pavlav, and he's been pushing for decades to
- 45:12Speaker 2: be the guy to go back and take over. And
- 45:15Speaker 2: he's been leading, you know, all kinds of events and
- 45:18Speaker 2: discussions and about going back and taking over. I don't
- 45:21Speaker 2: know if the White House has any real confidence in him.
- 45:25Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with him, He's just he hasn't been there
- 45:27Speaker 2: in forty seven years, and it's hard to imagine you
- 45:31Speaker 2: could go back forty seven years later and know what
- 45:34Speaker 2: the hell's going on or know anybody there. But he
- 45:37Speaker 2: could play some sort of role in this, he probably
- 45:40Speaker 2: would not be the new leader. And there's a tremendous
- 45:42Speaker 2: amount of Persians here in the United States and the
- 45:45Speaker 2: Persian community. You see them all over in New Jersey,
- 45:48Speaker 2: Long Island, Sands Point, Great Neck, very very very successful
- 45:53Speaker 2: business people, very very smart people. So it's a huge
- 45:57Speaker 2: diaspora of the Persian community. Huge and they've been talking, meeting,
- 46:03Speaker 2: gathering over the last few weeks figuring out what they
- 46:05Speaker 2: can do. And these are smart, wealthy guys. They can
- 46:08Speaker 2: do plenty to help support a new government in Iran.
- 46:12Speaker 2: So it could happen soon. You know, we've been trying
- 46:14Speaker 2: to take out the Islamic Revolutionary Guard, the Revolutionary Guard,
- 46:19Speaker 2: the Republican Guard. And they're the vicious ones. They're the
- 46:24Speaker 2: really ugly, vicious, brutal terrorist ones have been shooting protesters
- 46:28Speaker 2: and all that. But there's the regular army. We're trying
- 46:32Speaker 2: very hard not to hit them. The Islamic Republican Iran Army.
- 46:37Speaker 2: We've been leaving them alone because they'll be needed. If
- 46:41Speaker 2: Iran gets free, they'll be there. They'll be the new army.
- 46:45Speaker 2: We'll get rid of the Republican Guard, the regular army
- 46:47Speaker 2: will take over. It could get pretty interesting in the
- 46:50Speaker 2: next few months. We'll get to Johnny Carson coming up
- 46:53Speaker 2: in a few minutes. Interesting stuff that you never knew
- 46:55Speaker 2: about them. We'll take some calls next eight hundred three
- 46:58Speaker 2: two one zero seven ten is the number. Eight hundred
- 47:02Speaker 2: three two one zero seven ten.
- 47:05Speaker 1: Always this step ahead of the news. Here's more Marks
- 47:08Speaker 1: imone on seven ten. Wr.
- 47:12Speaker 2: Hey, let's take some calls. Let's go to Bonnie and
- 47:15Speaker 2: Toms River. Bonnie, how you doing.
- 47:18Speaker 12: Hi, Mark? I was just wondering this guy they put
- 47:23Speaker 12: in charge of Iran, the Sun. Yeah, he's pretty banged up.
- 47:30Speaker 12: I mean he's performed and he's in a coma. Is
- 47:33Speaker 12: it sort of like the Weekend with Bernie thing where
- 47:36Speaker 12: they prop them up and he waves yeah.
- 47:40Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 47:40Speaker 2: He's kind of the Joe Biden of Iraq. Now yeah,
- 47:45Speaker 2: they actually think he well, some think he's dead. There's
- 47:47Speaker 2: no confirmation that he's actually alive. It's been reported he
- 47:51Speaker 2: lost a leg in the bombing, facial lacerations, he was
- 47:53Speaker 2: in a coma, and.
- 47:54Speaker 12: Some of them I heard last night they think he's gay.
- 47:58Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gay, which is pretty funny because in Iran
- 48:00Speaker 2: that's illegal and they'll hang you if you're gay. So
- 48:05Speaker 2: so it was always said that the Iotola himself never
- 48:09Speaker 2: wanted his son to take over, and they said the
- 48:12Speaker 2: reason was they didn't want to get into this family
- 48:14Speaker 2: dynasty because that's what they had with the Shaw. But
- 48:17Speaker 2: could also be that he knew his son was gay
- 48:19Speaker 2: and that doesn't fit with what the Iranian government believes.
- 48:23Speaker 2: Let's go to Phil in Northport. Phil, how you doing?
- 48:27Speaker 3: Yes?
- 48:27Speaker 13: Hello, Hello Mark, And just kudos to whose cadets put
- 48:32Speaker 13: it into that miserable human being that killed the lieutenant
- 48:37Speaker 13: colonel in Arlington, Arlington, Virginia. And why didn't the governor
- 48:43Speaker 13: of Arlington, Virginia make one word about this.
- 48:46Speaker 2: You mean the governor of Virginia. All right, Well, anyway,
- 48:50Speaker 2: she's a left wing cook. She's not going to say
- 48:52Speaker 2: a word about it. But you've had the worst coverage
- 48:55Speaker 2: of everything we're talking about this last hour with Michael Goodwin,
- 48:58Speaker 2: just absolutely. For instance, the Michigan shooter, the guy who
- 49:03Speaker 2: tried to run over the kids, I mean, this awful terrorist,
- 49:05Speaker 2: and the New York Times and others put out this
- 49:09Speaker 2: narrative that he was so driven, so crazy because his
- 49:13Speaker 2: brother had been killed and an Israeli airstrike, his brother
- 49:17Speaker 2: in Lebanon was killed and in his early airstrike it
- 49:21Speaker 2: was very you know, to get sympathy from this is
- 49:23Speaker 2: what the New York Times and others wrote. Well, it
- 49:26Speaker 2: turns out it was true. The reason he was killed
- 49:28Speaker 2: he was a Hesbala terrorist. They forgot to mention that
- 49:31Speaker 2: in the article. They deliberately didn't mention it in the article.
- 49:33Speaker 2: You've had this kind of stuff going on. That's why
- 49:35Speaker 2: the FCC chair is warning these media outlets. They also
- 49:39Speaker 2: reported the story about we lost six ships, six ships
- 49:42Speaker 2: were sunk in or rent. None of this was true,
- 49:46Speaker 2: completely false, but major news outlets all ran this story.
- 49:49Speaker 2: That's why they're talking about FCC crackdown. Let's go to
- 49:53Speaker 2: Vincent and Brooklyn. Vincent, how you doing.
- 49:55Speaker 10: Good morning, Mark, I'm okay, Good morning, Mara, Mark abb
- 49:59Speaker 10: A girls Bamberger. The governor Virginia pulled the bait and switch.
- 50:04Speaker 10: She ran as a moderate, and now she wants to
- 50:07Speaker 10: tax anything walking, even cockerroaches and water bugs. Mark, I'm
- 50:13Speaker 10: sure you heard about Mandami's latest boneheaded plan. He wants
- 50:18Speaker 10: the state to low the inheritance tax threshold from seven
- 50:24Speaker 10: million dollars to seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars, and
- 50:30Speaker 10: he wants an inheritance tax rate of fifty percent.
- 50:34Speaker 2: Now, if you have inheritance, the first seven million is
- 50:38Speaker 2: not taxed, he wants to make that the first seven
- 50:40Speaker 2: hundred thousand, which, now explain this to me, though federal
- 50:45Speaker 2: inheritance tax about fifty percent, isn't it?
- 50:49Speaker 11: No?
- 50:49Speaker 10: Actually, and you got to make you got to really
- 50:52Speaker 10: be inherit a lot of a lot, a lot of buddy, No,
- 50:56Speaker 10: it's not not that what there is tax on. Like
- 50:59Speaker 10: if somebody in New York, and that's upfront, if let's
- 51:03Speaker 10: say your mom leaves a bank account in trust for
- 51:07Speaker 10: you if it's over thirty thousand dollars, they put and
- 51:11Speaker 10: this was years ago. I don't even know what it
- 51:13Speaker 10: is now. They put a lock on that accountant to
- 51:16Speaker 10: get you paid a tax up front, and you get
- 51:19Speaker 10: a clearance, a statement of clearance from the state tax Department,
- 51:24Speaker 10: and you present it to the bank and they'll free
- 51:27Speaker 10: up your money. I heard an economist over this weekend
- 51:31Speaker 10: talking about real estate in New York. And this person
- 51:35Speaker 10: knows about economics, but does not know about real estate.
- 51:40Speaker 10: He was saying that you could buy the average house
- 51:42Speaker 10: in New York City. You could you buy one for
- 51:45Speaker 10: seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. No way, you can't
- 51:49Speaker 10: even even in Brooklyn. The average co op let alone
- 51:53Speaker 10: of Manhattan goes for at least a million dollars. Block.
- 51:57Speaker 10: I was offered the beginning the last week for one
- 52:01Speaker 10: of my properties. I was offered a straight up deal.
- 52:05Speaker 10: We would have went to the lawyer's office and closed
- 52:08Speaker 10: five million dollars for one of mine. A good dollars.
- 52:12Speaker 2: Very good. Now, listen, the argument against the inheritance tax
- 52:14Speaker 2: is this is money that people have earned, and they've
- 52:17Speaker 2: already rational wealth, they've already paid tax on it when
- 52:20Speaker 2: they earned it, they paid the tax. So you're taxing
- 52:22Speaker 2: the money that's already been taxed, which is.
- 52:24Speaker 10: And they paid tax on and when they invested in
- 52:27Speaker 10: the dividends, the interest, they paid tax on it, when
- 52:30Speaker 10: they put it in the bank and everything. And so
- 52:34Speaker 10: it's robbery. And that's this is how you create generational wealth.
- 52:40Speaker 10: And Montami and these communists they don't want that. They
- 52:43Speaker 10: want everybody to be in the poorhouse. Now they're the
- 52:47Speaker 10: only ones conducted to eat steak and lobster. And they
- 52:50Speaker 10: complain about our military men and women who were fighting
- 52:54Speaker 10: for us having a stake or lobster didn't what they
- 52:57Speaker 10: added their mind.
- 52:58Speaker 2: Yes, as a matter of fact, Vincent, great, thanks for calling.
- 53:01Speaker 2: That's another example of fake news. They printed the story
- 53:04Speaker 2: as if Hexath had ordered millions of dollars of taking
- 53:07Speaker 2: lobster for himself. It was for the troops. They also
- 53:10Speaker 2: failed to mention this has done a lot. When troops
- 53:12Speaker 2: are about to go into combat, you spend a lot
- 53:15Speaker 2: of money and give them one incredible meal before they
- 53:17Speaker 2: go off to off to war. Hey, when we come back.
- 53:20Speaker 2: The Johnny Carson, expert of the world, he wrote it
- 53:23Speaker 2: just came out the greatest book about Johnny Carson. But
- 53:26Speaker 2: there's a dark side to Carson you may not have
- 53:29Speaker 2: known about. We'll get to that next on seven to ten.
- 53:32Speaker 1: Wor give woor o, Bri said on the iHeartRadio app
- 53:37Speaker 1: to hear Marximone and all the wr hosts in an instance.
- 53:42Speaker 1: Now back to the Mark Simon show on woor.
- 53:47Speaker 2: Well, you know there's been a lot of books about
- 53:49Speaker 2: Johnny Carson, but nothing like this. The Definitive Ultimate Johnny
- 53:52Speaker 2: Carson book came out last year. I urge you to
- 53:55Speaker 2: get it. It's the greatest book ever on Carson. It's
- 53:58Speaker 2: uncovered everything you could ever know about him. It's called
- 54:01Speaker 2: Love Johnny Carson. It's by Mark Malkoff. He also does
- 54:06Speaker 2: the Carson Podcast. There's about four hundred episodes you can
- 54:09Speaker 2: listen to with anybody and everybody that was ever involved
- 54:11Speaker 2: with the Tonight Show. But get the book, Love Johnny Carson,
- 54:15Speaker 2: by Mark Malcoff. You won't be able to put it down.
- 54:18Speaker 2: And he's with us now, Mark Malkoff, how you doing, Mark.
- 54:21Speaker 4: I'm doing great. Nice to talk to you again.
- 54:23Speaker 2: Hey, Oscars. Last night made me think of Carson. He
- 54:27Speaker 2: has been how many years was the Oscar host many years.
- 54:31Speaker 4: It was four or five years. He was the only
- 54:34Speaker 4: Oscar host in the history, no teleprompter, no q cars.
- 54:38Speaker 4: He memorized everything. The opening monologue, he would edit the
- 54:41Speaker 4: jokes in his head depending on how he did with
- 54:44Speaker 4: the crowd with each shoke. I mean that guy was
- 54:46Speaker 4: on a different level as a host, probably the greatest
- 54:48Speaker 4: Oscar host of all time.
- 54:49Speaker 2: Yeah, he did that with the Tonight Show. You know,
- 54:51Speaker 2: got like Jay Leno had to work on the monologue
- 54:53Speaker 2: to get the jokes in just the right order. But Carson,
- 54:56Speaker 2: you're right, on the Tonight Show would just jumble up jokes,
- 54:59Speaker 2: moving around on switch whatever he had to do. And
- 55:03Speaker 2: I think the only hoster ever that do that right.
- 55:05Speaker 2: Everyone else had the cue cards.
- 55:07Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was at Johnny was effortless. I
- 55:09Speaker 4: mean he had a phote, he took a photograph, a
- 55:12Speaker 4: memory class, and he could learn. He learned Russian, he
- 55:15Speaker 4: learned Swahili, he took Spanish classes and between shows in
- 55:19Speaker 4: Las Vegas. I mean the guy was unbelievable in terms
- 55:22Speaker 4: of his intellect.
- 55:23Speaker 2: Yeah, now you should get the book Love Johnny Carson,
- 55:26Speaker 2: and the book is wonderful. You're gonna love Johnny Carson
- 55:29Speaker 2: even more when you read it. But we've had you
- 55:31Speaker 2: on a number two. We never talked about the bad stuff.
- 55:34Speaker 2: I thought we'd just well. During the New York years.
- 55:37Speaker 2: He was a big drinker and apparently a lot of affairs, cheating,
- 55:41Speaker 2: not just him but the wife too.
- 55:42Speaker 4: Correct that's true. I mean Johnny would talk on the
- 55:47Speaker 4: Tonight Show about how we struggled with drinking. It was
- 55:49Speaker 4: one of those things in New York where he was
- 55:51Speaker 4: so famous. He would go into a restaurant or a
- 55:53Speaker 4: bar and people would constantly be sending over drinks, and
- 55:56Speaker 4: he tried to be polite, take a sip, and he
- 55:58Speaker 4: was a lightweight, so after few drinks, as Carson acknowledged,
- 56:01Speaker 4: he would turn into Attila the Hunt. And in the
- 56:04Speaker 4: spring of nineteen seventy one, Johnny was at Jillies on
- 56:07Speaker 4: fifty second straight World's Fame as Jilly's Sinatra Territory. He
- 56:11Speaker 4: was with Ed McMahon and Ed's manager Robert Coe, and
- 56:15Speaker 4: Carson had way too much to drink, and mobster Joey
- 56:18Speaker 4: Gallo had just gotten out of prison after serving a
- 56:21Speaker 4: decade who was locked away just got out. As at Jilli's,
- 56:24Speaker 4: Gallo is with his girlfriend, goes to the bathroom. Gallow
- 56:27Speaker 4: does and Johnny unfortunately didn't remember this because he was drunk,
- 56:31Speaker 4: but he did something highly inappropriate to Gallow's girlfriend. Jilly
- 56:34Speaker 4: Rizzo told ed get Carson the blank out of here,
- 56:39Speaker 4: which he did, and then Gallo came back and discovered
- 56:41Speaker 4: what Carson did, and he put a hit on Johnny's life.
- 56:44Speaker 4: And two things happened. One, Carson wisely got his good
- 56:48Speaker 4: friend Frank Sinatra to intervene. Sinatra new Gallo. He knew
- 56:51Speaker 4: some of the mafia figures. So Sinatra sat down with Gallow.
- 56:55Speaker 4: They need a favor, and he said, anything, I need
- 56:58Speaker 4: you to leave Johnny Carson alone. And Galo got really upset,
- 57:01Speaker 4: but he said, you tell Carson the only reason he
- 57:04Speaker 4: lives and breathes is because he knows Frank Sinatra. And
- 57:07Speaker 4: then the second thing is NBC. Carson was twenty five
- 57:11Speaker 4: percent of NBC's profits at one point, and to appease
- 57:13Speaker 4: the acting mafia don in New York City, Joe Colombo,
- 57:17Speaker 4: NBC News they aired a positive story in nineteen seventy
- 57:21Speaker 4: one on Joe Colombo and his Italian American Civil Rights
- 57:25Speaker 4: League for no reason, I mean, I watched it with
- 57:28Speaker 4: my own eye.
- 57:28Speaker 2: And you don't mean they ran a piece during the news.
- 57:31Speaker 2: I mean they created a primetime special for this, right
- 57:34Speaker 2: they did.
- 57:35Speaker 4: It was was prime time because they would have higher ratings.
- 57:38Speaker 4: They were really worried about this and it aired in
- 57:42Speaker 4: primetime and I look at that and I was like,
- 57:44Speaker 4: it was just why would they do this? And they
- 57:47Speaker 4: just you know, Carson was their cash cow. I mean,
- 57:49Speaker 4: he was the most important person to the network and
- 57:51Speaker 4: then Bob Hope. So they did that, and that was
- 57:54Speaker 4: how Johnny was able to keep his life. I mean
- 57:57Speaker 4: he would go to the Copa cabana and Jerry Vale
- 58:01Speaker 4: was opening up the Copa and Carson again, two drinks
- 58:04Speaker 4: and he was gone, and it was it was. He
- 58:07Speaker 4: ruined Jerry Vale's entire premiere and Carson Jerry Vale's a.
- 58:12Speaker 4: Carson apologized for decades.
- 58:15Speaker 10: The show.
- 58:16Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, you just did not want to be around Johnny.
- 58:19Speaker 4: But he would talk about it on the Tonight Show.
- 58:20Speaker 4: We talked about it with Mike Wallace. It was a
- 58:22Speaker 4: struggle of his. Really didn't get a hold of it
- 58:25Speaker 4: until nineteen eighty two after he got unfortunately arrested for
- 58:28Speaker 4: drinking and driving and three months prior on the Tonight Show,
- 58:31Speaker 4: he was warning people you do not want to drink
- 58:33Speaker 4: and drive during the holidays. And then three months later,
- 58:35Speaker 4: of course, Johnny, but it was a struggle of his
- 58:38Speaker 4: and then obviously the marriage is married. Four times he
- 58:41Speaker 4: would talk about the struggles. But yeah, unfortunately in nineteen
- 58:45Speaker 4: this has also happened in nineteen seventy one, Johnny. This
- 58:49Speaker 4: was wife number two, Joe Anne, who was the one
- 58:51Speaker 4: that really convinced Johnny to take the Tonight Show because
- 58:55Speaker 4: Johnny and everybody said, don't you don't want to take
- 58:57Speaker 4: over for Jack part, No one's going to succeed. She unfortunately,
- 59:01Speaker 4: had caught Carson in some compromising situations with women, and
- 59:04Speaker 4: she wanted to make Carson jealous. So she was going
- 59:07Speaker 4: on the weekends to race car, drive races, race car
- 59:10Speaker 4: She loved race car driving. She started having an affair
- 59:13Speaker 4: with Peter Revson, a race car driver, a playboy race
- 59:16Speaker 4: car driver, who's the heir to the Revlon throne. That's
- 59:18Speaker 4: what the media said. Carson found out he had a
- 59:22Speaker 4: she had a secret apartment, and he had a private
- 59:24Speaker 4: investigator who you were actually friends with. Carson was crying
- 59:29Speaker 4: when he found out that joe Anne was cheating on
- 59:31Speaker 4: him and changed the locks on their apartment and it
- 59:34Speaker 4: was over. And it was a really, really sad thing.
- 59:37Speaker 4: But you know, Carson just I mean temptation with the ladies.
- 59:41Speaker 4: He couldn't turn it down. He didn't turn them down
- 59:43Speaker 4: very often.
- 59:44Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 59:45Speaker 2: So so he's cheating with other women and she's going
- 59:48Speaker 2: away every weekend to go watch race races. But is
- 59:53Speaker 2: that smart that your husband's a cheater and you leave
- 59:55Speaker 2: them alone on the weekends.
- 59:56Speaker 4: That I just don't know about that. It was one
- 59:58Speaker 4: of those things where Johnny, for whatever reason, and men
- 1:00:02Speaker 4: of his generation thought it was totally fine for the husband.
- 1:00:05Speaker 4: There was nothing they would say, it was nothing emotional
- 1:00:06Speaker 4: about it, just physical. But if their wives did it
- 1:00:09Speaker 4: for whatever reason, it was like the worst thing that
- 1:00:12Speaker 4: they could possibly do. But yeah, Joanne was probably not
- 1:00:15Speaker 4: smart about that. And then she of course moved to
- 1:00:18Speaker 4: California and moved with Truman Capodi, who also has neighbors
- 1:00:22Speaker 4: with Johnny and the un plausa. Can you believe this?
- 1:00:24Speaker 4: Bobby Kennedy, Truman Capodi, David Suskin, Angela Lansbury, Yule Brenner.
- 1:00:29Speaker 4: I mean, it was just a cavalcade of talent in
- 1:00:32Speaker 4: this one place. And then yeah, Truman Capodi in White
- 1:00:35Speaker 4: number two moved to la and they lived there until
- 1:00:38Speaker 4: they passed away.
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: Yeah. Well that un Plaza back in nineteen sixty four
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: sixty five, that was the premier apartment building of New York.
- 1:00:45Speaker 4: It really wise. I mean it was that's where Johnny
- 1:00:48Speaker 4: met Sonny Werblin, who owned the New York Jets, who
- 1:00:50Speaker 4: became his business partner, and they opened the clothing line
- 1:00:53Speaker 4: and made Johnny a rich ben.
- 1:00:55Speaker 10: Wow.
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: Now, hey, get the book. Most of it is positive
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: and Johnny Carson, if you think that's true, wonderful guy.
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: We're just focusing on the bad stuff here first because
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: we never got to it before. And there were people
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: that got themselves banned from the Tonight Show because Johnny
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: would have a problem with him.
- 1:01:09Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:01:10Speaker 4: You know, I talked to four hundred people when I'm
- 1:01:12Speaker 4: talking to people that were on the very first show,
- 1:01:14Speaker 4: like mel Brooks, to people that were you know, one
- 1:01:17Speaker 4: of the last guest in nineteen nineties, so you have
- 1:01:19Speaker 4: thirty years of people. The one thing Carson did to
- 1:01:23Speaker 4: test it was rudeness, especially to his staff. And he
- 1:01:26Speaker 4: was you know from Nebraska, and he was very much
- 1:01:29Speaker 4: about having good manners. And Jerry Lewis was really rude
- 1:01:32Speaker 4: to Carson's staff, and Carson said, he is never coming back.
- 1:01:36Speaker 4: He would not tolerate rudeness, He would not tolerate comedians
- 1:01:41Speaker 4: coming on that for that we're debuting that did material
- 1:01:44Speaker 4: that might offend his audience. So unfortunately, Ellen DeGeneres on
- 1:01:47Speaker 4: her third appearance, did an offensive joke that Carson asked
- 1:01:50Speaker 4: her not to do, and she did, and she was
- 1:01:52Speaker 4: banned on the show. From the show, So there were
- 1:01:54Speaker 4: a bunch of people, maybe like thirty people that were
- 1:01:58Speaker 4: not welcomed on the show any I mean, William Shatner
- 1:02:01Speaker 4: was somebody that wouldn't let Johnny get a word in,
- 1:02:03Speaker 4: and Johnny detested that, and then Shatner turned his back
- 1:02:06Speaker 4: to Carson to talk to the previous guests, Buddy Hackett,
- 1:02:09Speaker 4: and then Shatner back then, you weren't allowed to believe
- 1:02:11Speaker 4: it or not. You remember this. You weren't allowed to
- 1:02:13Speaker 4: say what network your show was on unless it was NBC.
- 1:02:16Speaker 4: They say, on another network, And of course Shatner says,
- 1:02:19Speaker 4: watched me Saturday nights on ABC. TJ. Hooker. So Johnny
- 1:02:23Speaker 4: basically said three strikes, you're out, and we go into
- 1:02:26Speaker 4: everyone that was banned and why they were banned. Rich
- 1:02:28Speaker 4: little to this, almost to this day would he asked me,
- 1:02:32Speaker 4: why do you know why I was banned? And I
- 1:02:35Speaker 4: was able with my reporting to figure that out why
- 1:02:38Speaker 4: these people we were gone from Carson's show and even
- 1:02:41Speaker 4: his friend Carl Sagan, the famous astronomer, unfortunately after ten
- 1:02:45Speaker 4: or twelve appearances, was banned from the show.
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: Yeah, but he remained friends with him. He'd still go
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: to dinner with him.
- 1:02:51Speaker 4: He did, unfortunately interrupted Carson twice during this segment to
- 1:02:56Speaker 4: correct him, and it was very abrupt, and Johnny was
- 1:02:58Speaker 4: embarrassed and thought it was poor man. And he never
- 1:03:01Speaker 4: had him on. He did stay friends with him, you know.
- 1:03:03Speaker 4: He would have dinners with Carl Sagan. He with Jim Fowler,
- 1:03:07Speaker 4: the wildlife expert. He went to San Diego to see
- 1:03:10Speaker 4: the animals with with Joanah Embery at the San Diego Zo.
- 1:03:14Speaker 4: Just a really really interested man in how things work.
- 1:03:18Speaker 4: He really loved New York. I mean he pitched to
- 1:03:21Speaker 4: Mickey Mantle in nineteen sixty two on the Tonight Show.
- 1:03:24Speaker 4: He played with the Jets at the polo grounds. He
- 1:03:27Speaker 4: was diving out of planes. I mean, Mark, you and
- 1:03:29Speaker 4: I talk about Johnny in the New York Years. Unfortunately
- 1:03:32Speaker 4: most of that footage is gone. But Johnny was on
- 1:03:35Speaker 4: a different level, jumping out of airplanes, racing an Indiana
- 1:03:40Speaker 4: motor speedway with Hernelli Jones, going over one hundred miles
- 1:03:44Speaker 4: an hour. It's a really, really fun thirty years to
- 1:03:47Speaker 4: look at.
- 1:03:47Speaker 2: Well, it's a great book. I urge everybody to get it,
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: the new book, and it's got all kinds of great
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: things about Johnny Carson and everything you never knew about him.
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: It's fascinating. It's called Love Johnny Carson by Mark Malcof.
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: Now for those are gonna write to me, what was
- 1:04:01Speaker 2: the name of that place? Love Johnny Carson by Mark Malkoff.
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: Get the book. You're gonna love it. And listen to
- 1:04:08Speaker 2: the Carson Podcast. He's got four hundred episodes that are amazing.
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: But get the book, Love Johnny Carson, Mark Malkoff. It's
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: on Amazon. Mark Malkoff, we'll do it again soon. Thanks
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: for being with us.
- 1:04:18Speaker 4: I would love that yet. We have some new episodes
- 1:04:20Speaker 4: coming out and always good talking to you. Mark. Thank
- 1:04:22Speaker 4: you so much.
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: All right, take care. Hey, don't forget. Curtis is now
- 1:04:26Speaker 2: on the Morning show, Curtis and Larry, Curtis Lee, Larry Minti.
- 1:04:31Speaker 2: It's every morning, six to ten, seven ten wor here's more.
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: Mark Simone on seven ten wor.
- 1:04:39Speaker 2: Hey, we're out of time. Lousy weather today, but spring
- 1:04:43Speaker 2: begins Friday. I'll see you tomorrow ten o'clock, seven to
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: ten wor