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Bonus Episode: Classic Country Gateways, the Best Post-Punk Bands, and Peter Cetera's Bauhaus Tee · DISGRACELAND

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  Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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  Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too.
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  Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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  Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.
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  Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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  Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full
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  Speaker 1: episode or Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig
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  Speaker 1: into the dirt. On this episode, we're talking about Merle Haggard,
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  Speaker 1: my country music gateway, drug more British post punk, and
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  Speaker 1: of course your voicemails, texts, dms and more and as
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  Speaker 1: always a whole lot of rosy. All right, Discos, let's
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  Speaker 1: get into it all right. We are here, we are together,
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  Speaker 1: we are communing in Disgraceland. It is Merle Haggard Week.
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  Speaker 1: Merle Haggard is of course the subject of our latest
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  Speaker 1: full episode of Disgraceland, and in the mini bonus up
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  Speaker 1: leading up to the full lip on Merle, I discuss
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  Speaker 1: a bit about Merle's background and his crimes and a
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  Speaker 1: stint in prison and fulsome prison, even his relation to
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  Speaker 1: the high character Hi from raising Arizona. So if you're
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  Speaker 1: interested in all that, there is a lot for you
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  Speaker 1: to sink your teeth into in that mini episode, also
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  Speaker 1: in the full episode. But what I want to talk
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  Speaker 1: more about here in the bonus episode is Merle Haggard's music,
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  Speaker 1: and even more generally about country music, about classic country music.
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  Speaker 1: How many of you are into country music? Are into
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  Speaker 1: classic country music like Merle Haggard? I get it, I
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  Speaker 1: get it. If you're not, you're into punk rock, you're
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  Speaker 1: into hip hop, you're into Taylor Swift. Who knows you're
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  Speaker 1: into like sixty shit? And what does classic country music
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  Speaker 1: have to do with punk or hip hop or Taylor
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  Speaker 1: Swift or classic rock. Well turns out a lot, actually,
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  Speaker 1: especially that Taylor Swift part. But I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: go down that rabbit hole here, and rather than to
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  Speaker 1: explain to you why classic country has everything to do
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  Speaker 1: with modern forms of music, particularly modern forms of aggressive
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  Speaker 1: music like punk rock and even hip hop, I thought
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  Speaker 1: I would instead share with you how I got into
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  Speaker 1: classic country by mistake, by accident. I was in my
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  Speaker 1: late teens, I forget how old exactly, and my dad
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  Speaker 1: had for years been telling me about the importance of
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  Speaker 1: country music on rock and roll and all the music
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  Speaker 1: that I loved, But I put him on the pane
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  Speaker 1: of my list when it came to the subject, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't give shit. What did Hank Haggard, Jones or whatever
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  Speaker 1: the fuck his name was have to do with Who's
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  Speaker 1: coudu or suicidal or misfits and a Metallica. Now, right
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  Speaker 1: around this time, my late teens, my dad, who I
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  Speaker 1: told you guys before as a musician, A lot of
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  Speaker 1: you know him actually who listened to this, But my
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  Speaker 1: dad started playing this tiny club on Monday nights in
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  Speaker 1: Jamaica playing Boston called the Brendan Bean. I was around
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  Speaker 1: eighteen years old at the time. And when I say tiny,
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  Speaker 1: I mean tiny. This bar is I think I called
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  Speaker 1: it a club that was That was a mistake. It
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  Speaker 1: was a bar and no stage, and you had to
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  Speaker 1: kind of if you wanted to go to the bathroom,
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  Speaker 1: you had to kind of like walk through the band
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  Speaker 1: as they were playing and be careful not to like
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  Speaker 1: step on pedals or bump into them. The band was
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  Speaker 1: fucking incredible. These nights were incredible and it was yet
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  Speaker 1: to be twenty one. To get in, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how I got in but I got in a lot.
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  Speaker 1: My dad certainly didn't help me get in. He might
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  Speaker 1: have said something like, you know, my kid's not drinking,
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  Speaker 1: don't throw them out type of thing. I didn't drink.
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  Speaker 1: I was respectful. I got that I knew that I
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  Speaker 1: was putting. I knew that I was putting the liquor
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  Speaker 1: license on the line for the working folks, even at
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  Speaker 1: that young age. So anyhow, I was in got into
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  Speaker 1: this bar. So watch this band and my dad had formed. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't care what the type of band it was,
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  Speaker 1: what kind of music they were playing. I just wanted
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  Speaker 1: to be around live music and be around my dad,
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  Speaker 1: and be around with my dad was doing and creating,
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  Speaker 1: and so you know this band then, my dad had
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  Speaker 1: formed only for these Monday night shows. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: it was for this residency. The band was called the
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  Speaker 1: I and I'm Brothers. And the musicians in this band
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  Speaker 1: were and still are straight up assassins. A guy by
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  Speaker 1: the name of Jay Belrose on drums. Look Jay up.
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  Speaker 1: He now plays with icons like Robert Plant Madonna on
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  Speaker 1: bass high harmonies. Another dude named Paul Bryan, who's another
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  Speaker 1: top notch guy, produced a bunch of great stuff since
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  Speaker 1: then played with artists like Elvis Costello, Amy Mann, among others.
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  Speaker 1: And on guitar two dudes, two guitars, one named Kevin Barry,
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  Speaker 1: the other named Duke Levine, who to this day are
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  Speaker 1: a level session in touring guitars who will melt your
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  Speaker 1: faces when you see them perform. They're both in Bonnie
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  Speaker 1: Rates Band. Now, by the way, I'm not telling Bostonians.
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  Speaker 1: Anyone from Boston, Cambridge, Summerville knows exactly what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not telling you anything new about these guys, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling the rest of you because these dudes could
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  Speaker 1: and can play any style of music at the highest level.
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  Speaker 1: And the style of music they played with my old
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  Speaker 1: man fronting them who was singing, the style they all
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  Speaker 1: played was country music. That's what the Ideen Brothers were.
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  Speaker 1: Was a country band, okay, and a tiny Irish pub
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  Speaker 1: in Boston, mass country music again in a tiny Irish
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  Speaker 1: pub in Jamaica Plaine in Boston. And you know that bar,
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  Speaker 1: the Brendan Bean was just filled to the brim with
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  Speaker 1: music heads like you, Guys like me again though from Boston.
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  Speaker 1: Music heads from Boston who showed up to see a
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  Speaker 1: little band who only performed on Monday nights in Boston
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  Speaker 1: to hear them play incredible country music songs by George
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  Speaker 1: Jones and the Carter Family, Conway Twitty and of course
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  Speaker 1: Merle Haggard. So my dad, who fronted this band, he
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  Speaker 1: grew up before punk rock, but he grew up playing
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  Speaker 1: in frat houses and when he was in high school,
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  Speaker 1: his high school band he actually played like college on campus,
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  Speaker 1: college campuses and fratthouses, and after high school the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, think like his bands, then I'm guessing
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  Speaker 1: we're like Sonics, young rascals, Kingsmen, pre punk energy is
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  Speaker 1: what I'm trying to get at. It's in my old
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  Speaker 1: man's DNA, okay, and he brought that to Aide'm brothers
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  Speaker 1: shows to this country music. And when I saw it,
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  Speaker 1: when I saw my dad playing, I knew what the
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  Speaker 1: hell was going on. What I saw was punk rock
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  Speaker 1: and this tiny little Irish bar with face melting guitar
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  Speaker 1: solos and high, lonesome country harmonies. And I realized, I
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  Speaker 1: realized what I'd been missing about country music, country rock, pop, punk,
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  Speaker 1: even hip hop. On some level, it's all the same.
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  Speaker 1: The difference is that throughout time As these musical styles evolve,
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  Speaker 1: or perhaps a better word, as they refine, they lose
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  Speaker 1: that initial energy that sparked the genre in the beginning.
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  Speaker 1: Country became huge business in the years after Hank Williams, Hank,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Hank Williams took it from violent hockey talks
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  Speaker 1: to the top of the charts, you know, with Tony Bennett.
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  Speaker 1: Same with rock and roll. Those early beatles Hamburg gigs
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  Speaker 1: are about as punk as punk gets. But alas with success,
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  Speaker 1: all that energy gets sucked out. Okay, and you know
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  Speaker 1: the band of all is into obladill o b love.
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  Speaker 1: Please shut the fuck up. Punk rock was a correction,
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  Speaker 1: that's all. It was Joe Strummer rattling his telecaster and
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  Speaker 1: saying to rock and roll, Hey, what the fuck is
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  Speaker 1: going on? Rock and roll? Hank Williams is rolling over
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  Speaker 1: in his grave. Where is the energy? Guys? So when
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  Speaker 1: I first heard country music as a kid, there wasn't
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  Speaker 1: any ergy. I couldn't identify the energy in it, I
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  Speaker 1: should say, okay, and I imagine that if you've never
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  Speaker 1: heard classic country music and aren't a fan and are
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  Speaker 1: looking to say Morgan Wallen or Luke Combs, you probably
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  Speaker 1: feel in the same way you're sitting there saying, where's
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  Speaker 1: the energy, Merle Haggard, that's your answer. The answer is
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  Speaker 1: with Merle Haggard. And I'm not talking about an exact
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  Speaker 1: comp to the punk rock energy or rock and roll
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  Speaker 1: energy that you're familiar. You might be familiar with three
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  Speaker 1: chords played fast with a dude yelling over them into
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  Speaker 1: a microphone. But I am talking about the same three
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  Speaker 1: chords and the truth type of energy, even though it
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  Speaker 1: ain't fast, it's heavy. Go listen to the Fighting Side
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  Speaker 1: of Me or Tonight the Bottle Let Me Down by
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  Speaker 1: Merle Haggard, or The Image of Me by Conway Twitty,
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  Speaker 1: or You're Still on My Mind by George Jones, and
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  Speaker 1: then work your way back in time to Hank Williams
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  Speaker 1: and Hank Snow and Letti Frizelle. Those dudes were punk
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  Speaker 1: before we had a name for it and lived the
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  Speaker 1: life they sang about in their songs, violent, aggressive, transgressive
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  Speaker 1: lives filled with b bank guitar strings, but also in
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  Speaker 1: some cases from behind bars, as was the case with
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  Speaker 1: Merle Haggard. If you're looking for more specific recommendations here
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  Speaker 1: to start your love affair with classic country music, because
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  Speaker 1: I know you're going to have one just like I did,
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  Speaker 1: or perhaps looking for a more specific introduction to Merle Haggard.
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  Speaker 2: Ay, Jake, it's Juba. It's the six one four. You
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  Speaker 2: ask what we're into and I just wanted to just
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  Speaker 2: say something. Okay, I'm sixty two. I'm not be your
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  Speaker 2: oldest listener. I don't know, I doubt it, but I
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  Speaker 2: have such a vast love of so many different kinds
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  Speaker 2: of music that I'm just so passionate about from the
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  Speaker 2: entire last century. I mean, get into the original rockabilly,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and then start listening to some of the
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  Speaker 2: of rockabillity. And there's a lot of punk ability now
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  Speaker 2: in Columbus. Here we have some great dance and I'm
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: not doing this commercially for them, but you know, there's
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  Speaker 2: a band called the Mathematics the White Outs. Then you
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  Speaker 2: go back to the punk of the nineties with Econo Thugs.
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  Speaker 2: All these folks are on Spotify and they're amazing, and
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  Speaker 2: it might open a whole new door for people who
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: that don't know the best amount of different genres there are.
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  Speaker 2: I had a vintage clothing store in Appens in the
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  Speaker 2: nineties and I met so many amazing people who turned.
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  Speaker 1: Me on to music.
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  Speaker 2: I had no idea was out there. James Addiction the
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  Speaker 2: right on Viva in the Box. That's some punk abilities
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  Speaker 2: that's super amazing, and they're so talented. You've got rahall
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  Speaker 2: pet These just amazing. So everybody kind of opened your minds,
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  Speaker 2: start looking at other interesting genres, start looking at last
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  Speaker 2: centuries music from the forties and fifties, like these old
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  Speaker 2: bluegrass people that just started it all. And I love you.
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  Speaker 2: I hope this wasn't too long, but life is good.
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  Speaker 2: Music makes it better.
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  Speaker 1: Rock a Rollo, Thank you, Juba doubt you're our oldest listener,
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  Speaker 1: and I appreciate, of course, our listeners of all age
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  Speaker 1: like you. I am passionate about all types of different music,
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  Speaker 1: and I think I think that's one of the things
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  Speaker 1: I think we all have sort of this, you know,
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  Speaker 1: very diverse taste. And I love the door you're opening
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  Speaker 1: into the Midwest punk scene. Thank you. Also, I want
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  Speaker 1: to say I was in Athens Athens, Georgia in the nineties.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't living there, but my band was playing there
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  Speaker 1: quite a bit. My drummer at the time. That's where
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  Speaker 1: time ago, was a special place and I remember well.
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  Speaker 1: And of course you mentioned you mentioned the cure and pill,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm going to talk about them a little bit
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  Speaker 1: later here in the episode, so stay tuned. Juba. Right,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for thanks for calling and introducing yourselves. Guys, calling
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  Speaker 1: hey there, Jake. I'm a remote accountant who generally listens
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  Speaker 1: That is from Nicole Buffalo. Nicole, you are welcome. The
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  Speaker 1: seven sixty three is writing. And hey, Jake, you asked
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  Speaker 1: about what your fans like and are listening to, so
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  Speaker 1: I thought I would respond first. I think I have
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  Speaker 1: to say we gravitate to the music we loved when
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  Speaker 1: we were growing up. I would agree with that. You
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  Speaker 1: said how much you grew up on rock punk hip hop,
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  Speaker 1: so you naturally gravitate towards it. With that said, right now,
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: I'm listening to Ninja Sex Party for a self titled album.
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  Speaker 1: As my favorite artist growing up was Weird al Side note,
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  Speaker 1: I met Weird Alu to meet and greet, and I
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  Speaker 1: got to tell him how much I appreciated him for
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  Speaker 1: showing me it was okay to be a nerd slash
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  Speaker 1: weird when growing up. He seemed genuinely moved and said
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  Speaker 1: thank you. It was very quick, but it was great
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  Speaker 1: to meet my hero. Second side note, I think Weird
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  Speaker 1: al themed April Fool's episode would be great. You know
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  Speaker 1: this is not the first time someone's recommended this. Going
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  Speaker 1: back to the Texas says back to the discussion, Green
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  Speaker 1: Day American Idiot and Smashing Pumpkins, Melancholy and The Infinite
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  Speaker 1: Status are two go to albums. I'm reading The Year
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  Speaker 1: of Living Biblically by AJ Jacobs and Just After Sunset
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  Speaker 1: by Stephen King. Thank you for all you do. I
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  Speaker 1: love your podcast. Keep up the great work. Sorry I
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for the text. Keith from the seven sixty three,
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  Speaker 1: I want to know about this book The Year of
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  Speaker 1: Living Biblically by AJ Jacobs. What is that? Text me
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  Speaker 1: back and let me know. Okay, you know we got
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: into this this like age old question. Who invented rock
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  Speaker 1: and roll? I can't help but asking in my book,
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  Speaker 1: I make a hard case and it was Chuck Berry.
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  Speaker 1: Five four to row rights in rock and roll was
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  Speaker 1: invented by Muddy Waters. No, he invented electricity. I love that.
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  Speaker 1: I think Ben Franklin invented rock and roll? Is that
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  Speaker 1: what you're saying? Five four five four. Oa goes on
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  Speaker 1: to say, I think it was all of blues that
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  Speaker 1: invented rock and roll evolution. I believe. I believe in
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  Speaker 1: that country music had something to do with it too, definitely.
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  Speaker 1: And from the eight one five here we go. Hey ya,
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  Speaker 1: Tanya from Chicago land here. Thanks for your phenomenal pods.
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  Speaker 1: They provide hours of entertainment as I drive up and
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  Speaker 1: down the west coast of Lake Michigan. When I was twelve,
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: I became obsessed with the Manson case. After reading Helter Skelter.
• 15:25
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  Speaker 1: Your episodes on the subject opened up what I thought
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  Speaker 1: I knew. Hey, this is a great text. Eight one
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  Speaker 1: to five. I appreciate it. I got into Helter Skelter
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  Speaker 1: super early too. I was fifteen, not twelve though.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Let's meet Tom from the five to four to one,
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  Speaker 1: who says, Hey, Jake, love the show. I'm Tom. I'm
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  Speaker 1: a seed farmer in southern Oregon. I listened to you
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  Speaker 1: while I firm favorite rap band is The Coup from Oakland.
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  Speaker 1: Music is a huge part of my life for me.
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  Speaker 1: I would like to recommend two bands for you, Graveyard
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  Speaker 1: classic metal from Sweden and Rivver River Rivver rviv R
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  Speaker 1: amazing pop punk from Olympia. Unfortunately not together anymore. Enjoy peace,
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  Speaker 1: all right, Tom, Thanks dude, appreciate this. So from the
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  Speaker 1: nine to one seven got this one here, says hey Jake.
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  Speaker 1: So back in my high school days in Brooklyn, New York,
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  Speaker 1: my friends and I ran into Peter Steel one night,
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  Speaker 1: Peter Steele from Typo Negative. I'm adding that part me
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  Speaker 1: and my friends ran into Peter Steel one night when
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  Speaker 1: he was getting some pizza in our neighborhood. That is
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  Speaker 1: so New York. I love this. He was super cool
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  Speaker 1: and gracious to some random kids and totally made me
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  Speaker 1: love everything he did even more. I love that nine
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  Speaker 1: to one seven Thank you. I don't know if you
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  Speaker 1: four to one two sending me a video. Looks like
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to make heads or tails of your text here,
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  Speaker 1: and I just I can't. I don't know what the
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  Speaker 1: hell you're talking. Was a lot of texts here, but
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  Speaker 1: uh yeah, I understood the video. All right, let's keep
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  Speaker 1: This one from the plus six to one, this being
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  Speaker 1: who created rock and roll? Easy answer, Tchaikowski, AC DC,
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  Speaker 1: but thank you. The seven to one nine. Writing in
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  Speaker 1: the two five to three just wanted to say that
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  Speaker 1: I would agree with that statement. This text going back
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  Speaker 1: to a conversation we had a little bit of go about.
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  Speaker 1: I'm assuming this is when we were talking about the
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Since says Hi, I'm Robin and I live in Conway, Arkansas.
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  Speaker 1: I'm currently obsessed with speak now Taylor's version, even though
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  Speaker 1: I'm a middle aged woman. This Taylor phenomenon something else.
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  Speaker 1: Robin goes on to say, I admire how she's proclaiming
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  Speaker 1: her own. Your episode on her is incredible. I listened
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  Speaker 1: to it twice. Love your show. I like to listen
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  Speaker 1: when i'm walking. I get lost in the stories, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm grateful for that. Thanks for what you do. Thank you, Robin.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for what you do. Thanks for listening. I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see here, let's see the four to eight oh
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  Speaker 1: rights in love the podcast. Listening to it now with
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: my snack looks like a one hitter, a weed tall boy,
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  Speaker 1: Swiss Family. Whatever the fuck Robinson is that? What that is?
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: The illustrated version? Well there you go, all right, four Rado,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: thanks for that photo. All right? The eight five nine
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  Speaker 1: rites in Jake, I discovered Disgraceland in the early days.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I painted the inside of my entire house while on
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: a disco Araceland binge. It kept me sane and entertained.
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  Speaker 1: This theme music would always take me back to that time.
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  Speaker 1: I would love to hear an episode on Rush. Best regards,
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  Speaker 1: Joe from Kentucky, Love it, Joe, right on man, Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Uh five oh three. Hello. I came across your podcast
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: because I was looking for Beatles podcasts and your episodes
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: on them came up. Love the episodes on them. They're
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: my favorite group ever. In the rest of your podcast
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: is amazing as well. Thanks five h three. We got
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: another Beatles thing we're working on right now with them.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty excited about three one seven, right sing yo? Jake
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: John from Indy here, just catching up on the after
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  Speaker 1: party in the wrap. Top ten. Can't believe no mention,
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  Speaker 1: House of Pain, eh, House of Pain top ten. I
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: don't know if Larry David agrees with that. Let's go
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Let's see what else he says here. John goes on
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: to say, you sure you're a mass guy? Loe, what's
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: your go to local heavy band? You a hate breed guy?
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Bury your dead? I know they're not hardcore, but Seamless
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: was a killer band out there. Love you pods? Peace man?
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Are you testing my fucking Massachusetts heavy music knowledge? You
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: realize I was signed a Victor Records at one time,
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  Speaker 1: John from Indy, Um, I'm not gonna fucking I'm not
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: gonna stoop to answer your question. John, Let's move on here.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: What else we got here? Seven oh three. I always
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  Speaker 1: consider myself a huge music fan, open to a lot
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  Speaker 1: of different stuff. Guys, when you're introducing yourself, you have
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  Speaker 1: consider myself a huge music fan, open to a lot
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  Speaker 1: of different stuff, your show has expanded my horizons even more.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Growing up in New Jersey in the eighties nineties, I
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: thought I was a huge Bruce Springsteen fans, and so
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I went all the way back to the River. I
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: never would have considered Nebraska because people in New Jersey
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: called it country, which I couldn't do Wow, there we go.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: All right. Lately, Bruce's Nebraska album has been one of
• 20:43
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• 20:46
  Speaker 1: got it? Seven oh three. I'm gonna end it there
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: because that one is apropos to the classic country theme
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  Speaker 1: we're on in this bonus episode, So thank you. Where
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• 21:15
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• 21:33
  Speaker 1: this week. All right from Ryan Burnham says, hey, longtime
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: listener and fellow New England or and hardcore punk rock
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: kid growing up. We had a great scene imports with
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: three Hampshire back in the day. But that's besides the point.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: My favorite all time band is Black Sabbath. We ever
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: do an episode about them?
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Come on, Ryan, We've done one. Got a Black Sabbath
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  Speaker 1: episode in the archive. Got another episode on Auzius as well.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Heather Dill writes in Hey, Jake and everyone
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  Speaker 1: at Disgraceland, I'm a longtime center and love your podcast,
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  Speaker 1: And today I was listening to the after party where
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: you asked for stories about meeting your rock stars. Made
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: me think about meeting my musical hero and wondering if
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: you could ever do a podcast on my favorite band,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Pearl Jams Zeth Lundy are you're listening to this? I've
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: often thought when listening that it would be a less
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: interesting than some stories, because for the most part, the
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  Speaker 1: band is clean, steady, loyal and stands up for good causes,
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  Speaker 1: not to mention that they are still putting out killer
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  Speaker 1: music in live shows. You know. Oh, actually, let's see hear.
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  Speaker 1: Heather just has this quick little anecdote about meeting Eddie Vetterer.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: So here's my story about meeting Eddievedter Charlotte, North Carolina,
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  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six. I helped register voters, got invited backstage
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: where I met the whole band, what including Eddie. Asked
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: him for a hug and he shyly complied, and then
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: we got a pick with my disposable camera, but I
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: could not develop it due to the film being exposed.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Now that is a disgrace, Heather. I'm working on a
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: way to bring you stories about bands that did not
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: get embroiled in crimes. We're trying to figure that out,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: so appreciate your text. Actually your DM all right at
• 23:00
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• 23:02
  Speaker 1: take a quick break the recommendations part. This is the
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  Speaker 1: recommendations part, the part where we recommend the things that
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: need recommending. The recommendations part what I've been listening to
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: so well. Literally, as I was sitting there getting my
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: notes together to come in here and record, there's this
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Chicago video on in the background with Peter Setera that's
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: a guy's name, right, singer wearing a fucking Bauhause T shirt.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Is this the final straw that causes me to take
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Chicago seriously? Hey? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, there's
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: also some chick in this video who looks just like Madonna.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: What's happening? What is going on here?
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: That's that's what I need to know. I don't know,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: you know. I hear Chicago sometimes, guys, and I'm just like,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: this is the most painful, uh Vanilla, just I can't deal.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: And then I hear some of it and I'm just like,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: this is incredible. I love this. I'm rolling the windows down,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I'm driving a little faster than I should be. I
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. I'm not willing to accept
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Chicago yet. I'm not there, Okay, all right. So what
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I'm listening to, aside from the classic country inspired by
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Merle Haggard that we talked about earlier, I'm still on
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: this post punk kick from the New Order episode a
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: couple weeks back or week back, I should say, we
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: talked about the biggest post punk bands post nineteen eighty
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: and we opened it up to the nineties. So here's
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: my top five list, along with one record each for
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: ease of listening. The greatest English post punk group for
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: me is, without question number one, The Cure, And if
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: you're going to name one Cure record. For me, it's integration.
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  Speaker 1: I know the purists are cringing right now, but hey,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I could have said wish I almost did, all right, okay?
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  Speaker 1: Number two. Second greatest English post punk band of all
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: the time Oasis. You can probably argue the number one,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: but their album What's the Story Warning Glory, that's definitely
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: the record. I can make a case, like I said
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  Speaker 1: for Oasis and the number one, so but my personal
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  Speaker 1: preference one out. I guess in some weird way, I
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: don't know that we get Oasis without the Cure. I'm
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: not sure what I mean by that exactly, but I'm
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: at least fifty percent committed to that. Take number three.
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  Speaker 1: Third greatest post punk British group Smith's just the Smiths,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: the Smiths and the Smiths and the album. For me,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna cheat here louder than Bombs. I know it's
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: unfair because it's a compilation, but it is nonetheless a
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: staggering document of unrivaled originality and genius and MARSSI fucking roles. Okay,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: number four. It pains me to say this. I feel
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: like I'm losing my rock and roll cred by saying this,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: like I should get my fucking cool cardvoked because I'm
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: such a fucking dork, but I think this quote unquote
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: cool band is actually so uncool. In my gut, they
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: are a big bag of dorks and I can't stand that.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I like them so much, but they're so fucking good
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: and their first three albums are so damn influential. All right,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: enough qualifiers? Who am I talking about Radiohead? There? I
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: said it fucking kill me now, but it's Radiohead in
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: the four spot? Okay? Computer is that good? The Bens amazing?
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Even Pablo Honey also great. That said, their whole vibe,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: their whole creative vibe, I should say, is so relentlessly
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: pretentious that they border on not even being rock and
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: roll to me, but forget it whatever. Number five Publa
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Camage Limited Pill love you, John Lyden. You might be
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: the greatest rock and roll singer of all time. I
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: literally can't pick one album, and this has made harder
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: because some of their greatest efforts came pre nineteen eighty.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: But you can't say post punk and not say John Lydon.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so there you have it. The five greatest
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: post punk British rock bands of all time. Number one
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  Speaker 1: The Cure number two, Oasis number three, The Smiths number four,
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  Speaker 1: Radiohead number five, pill Public Image Limited. All right, my
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: heart is breaking for Blur right now. Breaking breaks my heart.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: The Blur isn't on this list, but hey, DEM's the
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: break See what I did there? Also, if someone doesn't
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: threaten to punch me in the face for leaving Primal
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Screen off this list, are we even rock and roll?
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Speaking of English groups, I just caught the video to
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: the Jesus and Mary Chain sometimes always. I know they're
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: not English, they're Scottish, but it's still the UK, or
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: it was I don't know what it is anymore. Whatever.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: The video with Hope from Massie Starr. That video is
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: fucking awesome. It's great, good looking people doing good looking shit.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Can we talk music movies again? I'm working on my
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: list the top five music movies of all time, as
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: prompted by the TCM bumper Almost Famous. We talked about
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: this a little bit ago, breaking news. I don't think
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Almost Famous is the greatest music movie of all time?
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: What are your top five music movies of all time?
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Doesn't have to be a music biopic, okay, very key
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  Speaker 1: does not have to be a biopick. It just has
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: to be a movie that is set in the world
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  Speaker 1: of music or is about music. Okay, hit me up
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's recap, shall we? Number one Merle Haggard
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  Speaker 1: Number two got a new Roman plan Ski episode this
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  Speaker 1: week in the Badlands Feed. Number three next week in
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  Speaker 1: the Disgraceland Feed. It is Sonny Rollins for my number
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  Speaker 1: is six one seven nine oh six six six three eight.
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  Speaker 1: Call me on the telephone, it texts me all right
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  Speaker 1: in honor of me right now. Being exhausted after recording
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  Speaker 1: two episodes today writing another one being late for dinner,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna read you the first vintage phone book I
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  Speaker 1: can find. And it is from Where's it from? Where's
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  Speaker 1: it from? Where's it from? I don't know where this
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