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Fun Facts About Vampires · Boozy Banter with Friends

• 0:18
  Leyla Zmeskal: Hello and welcome to boozy banter,
• 0:20
  Diane Black: with friends.
• 0:21
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'm Leyla.
• 0:22
  Trisha Smith: I'm Trisha.
• 0:23
  Diane Black: I'm Diane.
• 0:24
  Leyla Zmeskal: Grab your favorite spirit and join us because shits about to get real.
• 0:37
  Leyla Zmeskal: Hello.
• 0:39
  Trisha Smith: Hi
• 0:39
  Diane Black: Hi
• 0:41
  Leyla Zmeskal: How is everybody today?
• 0:43
  Diane Black: Here I am.
• 0:44
  Trisha Smith: Yeah.
• 0:46
  Diane Black: I can't multitask, surprise.
• 0:50
  Trisha Smith: I am
• 0:54
  Leyla Zmeskal: Present and accounted for.
• 0:57
  Trisha Smith: I know, it's a nice stormy rainy,
• 1:04
  Leyla Zmeskal: Afternoon.
• 1:04
  Diane Black: Yeah,
• 1:06
  Leyla Zmeskal: We've had some thunder,
• 1:07
  Diane Black: Claps.
• 1:08
  Leyla Zmeskal: Claps.
• 1:09
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 1:09
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's now all of a sudden the lights turned off, great. Tricia, you did not tell us you had a clapper.
• 1:18
  Trisha Smith: It's the perfect afternoon for,
• 1:21
  Leyla Zmeskal: Day drinking.
• 1:31
  Trisha Smith: What do you drink it Diane?
• 1:32
  Diane Black: I am drinking actually one of my favorites. It is GTS Raw Kombucha Pineapple Flavor. Yeah, it's got a little kick to it. But some of them are like really like tardy and kind of not really enjoyable. This pineapple flavor is actually very tasty. So yes, what do you got yourself over there, Trisha?
• 1:56
  Trisha Smith: I am having a fall drink. And I went with an, Apple Cider Mimosa.
• 2:05
  Leyla Zmeskal: Lovely.
• 2:07
  Trisha Smith: She's just apple cider and little bit of bubbly.
• 2:10
  Trisha Smith: It's very tasty.
• 2:11
  Diane Black: It looks like I don't think of Mimosa as a fall drink.
• 2:14
  Trisha Smith: Right, right.
• 2:15
  Diane Black: But you made it into one.
• 2:16
  Trisha Smith: I did. I usually think of it as a Mother's Day or a Sunday brunch drink but yeah, it's really nice.
• 2:24
  Diane Black: It works on a rainy,
• 2:25
  Trisha Smith: Fall day,
• 2:26
  Diane Black: Fall day.
• 2:27
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's the perfect fall day drinking drink.
• 2:30
  Trisha Smith: It really is. Or yours could be considered the perfect fall day drinking drink.
• 2:37
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yes,
• 2:37
  Diane Black: Especially on for today.
• 2:39
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yes, yes, I am having an Autumn Old Fashioned.
• 2:44
  Trisha Smith: It just it looks really good too.
• 2:47
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's super tasty.
• 2:47
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's definitely one of those cocktails that is almost dangerous. You know cuz it it all it is is is smoked maple whiskey with also some apple cider. And it is not sweet in regards like to the apple cider.
• 3:09
  Leyla Zmeskal: You can taste like the back end like a maple flavor. Like that's where it comes sweetness. And it's just a hint. It's not overpowering. But it's very easy.
• 3:20
  Diane Black: Yeah.
• 3:22
  Leyla Zmeskal: I mean,
• 3:22
  Diane Black: Dangerous.
• 3:23
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah.
• 3:24
  Diane Black: It has the color of pumpkin.
• 3:26
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah,
• 3:27
  Trisha Smith: It really does, looks nice, too.
• 3:29
  Diane Black: So it makes it a little more fally.
• 3:30
  Trisha Smith: It's the apple cider. I mean, who knew apple cider could go in so many delicious concoctions.
• 3:36
  Leyla Zmeskal: I think that's apple cider is going to be our new fall mixer.
• 3:41
  Trisha Smith: So what's everybody been up to you watching anything good, reading anything good?
• 3:46
  Diane Black: Oh you reminded me?
• 3:46
  Diane Black: No, I'm not watching any but my friend Jessica Collins, an avid listener of our podcast.
• 3:54
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh, thanks, Jessica.
• 3:55
  Diane Black: Yes, Collins. We all call her Collins. No, we'd call it Jessica. It's Collins.
• 4:03
  Leyla Zmeskal: Thanks Collins.
• 4:03
  Leyla Zmeskal: Thank you for being a loyal listener.
• 4:06
  Diane Black: She is and she is totally team, Trisha. I love you Jess and I understand it. She is totally t
• 4:14
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'm still gonna say thanks Callins.
• 4:16
  Diane Black: Yeah. She's a good egg. She sent me a message because one of the recent podcasts is you were talking about books and asking if anybody has a recommendation.
• 4:27
  Trisha Smith: Yes.
• 4:27
  Diane Black: She was so funny.
• 4:27
  Diane Black: She's like, I know I should have answered on Instagram, Instagram. But I have like an, In. So we talk regularly, so I'm just gonna tell you. Okay, so it is actually a book called, The Gathering Of Souls.
• 4:43
  Trisha Smith: Oh,
• 4:44
  Leyla Zmeskal: That sounds interesting.
• 4:45
  Diane Black: Right. And it's by Erica last name is Darnell. And Eric is actually a friend of Jessica's.
• 4:52
  Leyla Zmeskal: Ah,
• 4:54
  Diane Black: Right, and so she bought, she bought it to support a friend.
• 4:58
  Trisha Smith: Uh huh.
• 4:58
  Diane Black: And she ended really enjoying it? She said, It's an easy read. It's almost written like a young adult novel. Like it just really easy read. And she said she ended up thoroughly enjoying it.
• 5:12
  Trisha Smith: Great.
• 5:12
  Diane Black: And wanted to recommend it to you.
• 5:14
  Trisha Smith: Well, I'm gonna read it.
• 5:15
  Diane Black: I knew you would.
• 5:15
  Diane Black: Yeah, I think I going to also.
• 5:19
  Trisha Smith: Thank you Jessica, cuz that sounds great.
• 5:22
  Diane Black: I know. I think she said it was available on Amazon.
• 5:25
  Diane Black: Yeah.
• 5:26
  Trisha Smith: Great.
• 5:26
  Diane Black: So,
• 5:27
  Trisha Smith: That sounds good.
• 5:27
  Diane Black: That's what I have to share.
• 5:28
  Trisha Smith: I love when I get book recommendations. So I'm excited. And I will update and let you know what I think about it. If I don't like it. I won't say it on the podcast. But if I
• 5:40
  Leyla Zmeskal: I just looked it up on my Kindle app, and she do already has 14 Five stars on the book.
• 5:48
  Trisha Smith: Nice see, I like hearing that. Yeah, cuz I'm a big like, review. If it meets.
• 5:53
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, if the reviews are good, I'm like all in so yeah,
• 5:59
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah, she's got 4.9 out of five stars.
• 6:00
  Diane Black: Nice.
• 6:04
  Trisha Smith: Oh, right. I'm gonna download that and start that because I'm in between books right now.
• 6:09
  Trisha Smith: Oh, perfect timing.
• 6:10
  Trisha Smith: Right, right. I, my husband's mad at me because I stay up so late reading and then I'm cranky in the morning because I have to get up and I'm like, still tired. Because I stayed up till two o'clock in the morning reading. I can't help it. I gotta get to the next chapter that has a good stopping point.
• 6:30
  Trisha Smith: You know, sometimes I gotta evaluate what that stopping point should be. And so
• 6:35
  Leyla Zmeskal: I see up till like two, three o'clock in the morning as well.
• 6:38
  Trisha Smith: I know, see it's hard.
• 6:40
  Diane Black: Not this girl, I need my, I love my sleep. If you asked me what my favorite thing to do is I would answer sleep.
• 6:47
  Trisha Smith: I love to sleep too. But I just can't so,
• 6:51
  Diane Black: Physically to, I need if I get less than nine hours like I cannot function.
• 6:56
  Trisha Smith: Really?
• 6:57
  Diane Black: My Mama, my Mama says I've always been that way.
• 6:59
  Trisha Smith: That's my daughter is like that.
• 7:01
  Diane Black: Yep.
• 7:02
  Trisha Smith: Man if she ,she likes to be like, Oh, I can do you know, I can get up and go at it. No, she can't.
• 7:08
  Diane Black: I can't either.
• 7:10
  Trisha Smith: After a few days, if she's not been getting the amount of sleep that she needs.
• 7:13
  Trisha Smith: She is cranky. I'm just saying that right there. I show her all the time. And she gets mad because she says no, I'm not.
• 7:22
  Trisha Smith: And I'm like, Yes, you are. I've been living with you for 31 years. You are as shit if you don't get enough sleep. Don't try to tell me otherwise. So anyways, yeah, I
• 7:35
  Diane Black: I understand.
• 7:36
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 7:36
  Diane Black: I really do.
• 7:37
  Trisha Smith: I'm glad she has some sympathizers. Not me. It's not me. But the latest book series that I had finished off was by Ron Ripley. He writes some frickin scary ass books, and they're not sugar coated at all. Like, it doesn't matter matter if you know, people like that character. They're dead, like his ghosts will kill them.
• 8:01
  Trisha Smith: He doesn't care. But he has several books series, but my favorite has Shane Ryan. He's this ex Marine who can see ghosts. He speaks multiple languages. So he can interpret what ghosts are saying to him.
• 8:20
  Trisha Smith: But the ghosts in these books are nasty. Like they will attack you, they will kill you. And he tracks them down and he takes care of them. It's just really good. And it's like one of those that like kind of scares you in the middle of the night. I love it. I love so anyways, if you're looking for a good scary book for the month of October, I highly recommend Ron Ripley.
• 8:42
  Diane Black: Cool.
• 8:43
  Trisha Smith: He's on Amazon.
• 8:44
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'm pretty sure I had that. I pretty sure I had that author already added to my Kindle list..
• 8:47
  Trisha Smith: I wouldn't doubt it. I wouldn't doubt it. So you know what? I started watching, Squid Games.
• 8:54
  Diane Black: Oh, no,
• 8:54
  Leyla Zmeskal: I watched the very first episode of that.
• 8:57
  Trisha Smith: I mean, it's one of those things where it's like,
• 9:00
  Leyla Zmeskal: The first episode was really hard. It was really hard to get past,
• 9:05
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 9:05
  Leyla Zmeskal: But now that they're in the place, and the games have actually begun, I think it's going to be a lot easier for me to watch because up until he was taken into the van. I'm like, This is really hard for me right now. Because I just want to take him and smack him because he's a little fucking bitch.
• 9:23
  Trisha Smith: Right, right. And it seems like all the players are like that. So you haven't so you haven't watched the second episode?
• 9:31
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah,
• 9:31
  Trisha Smith: Okay. I'm on the third, and let's just say that.
• 9:31
  Leyla Zmeskal: No,
• 9:36
  Trisha Smith: But then, you know, I think about it. And it's I mean, they keep saying it's a gory show. I get that. It's the psychological aspect of it. Like the reasoning like these people are doing what they're doing.
• 9:48
  Trisha Smith: That's hard for me to wrap my head around at first of all, it's like, how the hell did you get in the situation to begin with, you know, and then second of all, it's like, this is what you consider your own only option.
• 10:04
  Trisha Smith: like, for some people, you know, I, you could see how this, maybe not to the extreme that this show takes it, but you could see how this could become a reality.
• 10:13
  Trisha Smith: You remember that movie, The Running Man with Arnold Schwarzenegger?
• 10:19
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah.
• 10:19
  Trisha Smith: And they like would take people. And basically they were criminals and they had to, you know, perform in this game show. It turned out most of the people that were in the show weren't really guilty. They had been set up so that they could be on the show, but people were like, you know, the public were like watching the show and cheering them on. There's other movies like, Death Race and things like that, that are the same, you know, type of movie, but I'm like, That's how people are like, this is why back in the 1800s people used to gather for hanging because, you know, in, I think nowadays with the way people have become desensitized to other people's suffering. I could totally see how this could become a reality.
• 11:06
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah,
• 11:06
  Diane Black: Well let's hope not.
• 11:09
  Trisha Smith: I'm not saying it should.
• 11:12
  Diane Black: I agree with what you're saying. And I hope,
• 11:14
  Trisha Smith: Modern movie, The Purge, right.
• 11:18
  Trisha Smith: I don't watch, All those movies that you always talk about. I don't I don't watch any of them.
• 11:21
  Trisha Smith: The scary ones, the ones that involve torture and pain and suffering. I cannot watch them.
• 11:30
  Trisha Smith: I mean, I physically can't watch them because I absorb all that emotion. So it sounds crazy to the two of you. But that is why I cannot, I literally can't.
• 11:40
  Leyla Zmeskal: You say that but how long have we been with you?
• 11:44
  Diane Black: Long time.
• 11:45
  Leyla Zmeskal: Okay, so stop saying you might think I'm crazy.
• 11:47
  Diane Black: My husband thinks I'm crazy.
• 11:48
  Leyla Zmeskal: Well that's your husband.
• 11:49
  Diane Black: He's been with me for over 30 years and he still thinks I'm crazy.
• 11:53
  Leyla Zmeskal: Well that's your husband.
• 11:54
  Leyla Zmeskal: He sees the deep dark, you know, parts of you, we
• 11:54
  Diane Black: Yeah.
• 11:57
  Diane Black: don't get to see so he would be more of a judge than we are.
• 11:59
  Diane Black: He'll look at me and like, okay. I'm like you don't understand. I can feel it.
• 12:03
  Diane Black: He's like, okay, whatever.
• 12:08
  Leyla Zmeskal: Freak.
• 12:11
  Diane Black: I'm sure. Yeah, like he'll say things to like comments and regards to someone else who, who maybe had an talking about their experience, because he will watch the shows with doing shows that I watch are usually like, medium related or psychic related. Because the I can relate with what's going on. And he'll watch him with me and he'll kind of like laugh and roll his eyes. But oh, yeah, boo, boo boo. And we'll start talking negative, I'm like you do realize, you're commenting to a person that shares many of these same traits. And then like just kind of shut him down.
• 12:44
  Diane Black: Like, Oh, yeah.
• 12:47
  Leyla Zmeskal: I love you babe.
• 12:49
  Diane Black: But no.
• 12:51
  Leyla Zmeskal: Can I get you some Gluten Free crackers?
• 12:55
  Diane Black: Obviously, he loves me. But yeah, that's why we don't talk too much about my house.
• 13:00
  Trisha Smith: So what non creepy, non gory story do you have for us this week? It couldn't possibly be anything about mummified remains going for joy ride or anything like that.
• 13:14
  Diane Black: It's not about any of those. But it is about one of my very favorite subjects, can you guess?
• 13:22
  Leyla Zmeskal: Regression, past life regression.
• 13:23
  Diane Black: Ah, that was my other story.
• 13:26
  Leyla Zmeskal: Boobs,
• 13:26
  Trisha Smith: Faires.
• 13:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: Like caressing your boobs.
• 13:33
  Diane Black: I'm showing my shirt to you that has vamper kitty,
• 13:36
  Leyla Zmeskal: Vampires.
• 13:37
  Diane Black: Vampires, kitties should be a close second.
• 13:41
  Leyla Zmeskal: Good thing, It's not about kitties, because I would have given you an evil eye.
• 13:45
  Diane Black: Because that is by far my favorite topic.
• 13:48
  Trisha Smith: Absolutely.
• 13:49
  Diane Black: Yes. I'm one of those that has romanticized vampires. Like my whole life. I can remember being in middle school, and like having a hard time falling asleep. And then I would create stories in my head where like, Dracula would come through the window and into my bedroom. And he would you know, sweep me up. It was crazy. I had so many stories in my head about me and Dracula.
• 14:13
  Trisha Smith: So evidently being violated
• 14:19
  Leyla Zmeskal: By a blood sucker,
• 14:21
  Diane Black: Like I said, I romanticized it.
• 14:24
  Trisha Smith: Okay,
• 14:24
  Diane Black: Romanticize,
• 14:25
  Trisha Smith: So,
• 14:26
  Leyla Zmeskal: Please drain my blood from my body. As long as you come through the window, have pointy fangs, wear a cape and look handsome and have a very dark widow's peak.
• 14:40
  Diane Black: I'm okay with it.
• 14:40
  Diane Black: Yeah. But what I have here are just kind of like some comparisons of the different folklores from different regions. So what they saw vampires as and what they would well you'll you'll hear, okay.
• 14:57
  Trisha Smith: Let's just hear.
• 14:59
  Leyla Zmeskal: Share away.
• 15:00
  Diane Black: I will share and share like, so for those of you that don't know what is a vampire you might ask. A vampire, by definition is a corpse that supposedly returns to life after night to suck people's blood. But according to many folk stories, a vampire must have a constant supply of fresh blood obtained by biting the neck of sleeping victims.
• 15:27
  Trisha Smith: Why sleeping?
• 15:28
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah, why sleeping?
• 15:29
  Diane Black: Well I'll get to that.
• 15:30
  Trisha Smith: Okay,
• 15:30
  Diane Black: Hold your questions. So the victims lose strength, die and become vampires themselves, which I think that's that's a common thread.
• 15:41
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah,
• 15:42
  Diane Black: Through the lore's and then vampires are mythological or folklore beings that subsist on human and animal forces life forces. I think that's a common thread too. And in most cases, they are reanimated corpses who fed by draining and consuming the blood of living beings. But in folklore, the term usually first to blood drinking humans of Eastern European legends. So that's where you know derived from its first started, but the term is often applied to similar legendary creatures from other regions and cultures. The characteristics of vampires vary widely, and that's what I'm going to show you today. Among those different traditions. Some cultures also have stories of non human vampires, including real animals like the vampire bat, yes, dogs and any other guesses spiders, and mythological creatures like Chopra. That's it, right? No.
• 16:41
  Diane Black: chippac
• 16:44
  Leyla Zmeskal: Chupacabra.
• 16:45
  Diane Black: Chupacabra.
• 16:45
  Diane Black: Chupacabra?
• 16:47
  Leyla Zmeskal: A cup of cabras.
• 16:50
  Diane Black: That, so, vampireism, that term is actually the practice of drinking blood from a person or animal. The consumption of another's blood or flesh has been used as a tactile of psychological warfare intended to terrorize the enemy and can be used to reflect various spiritual beliefs. Here's a fun fact. In zoology and botany the term vampireism is actually used, but it refers to leeches, mosquitoes, mistletoe, I don't know why. Mistletoe, vampire bats, like you said, and other organisms that subsist on bloody fluids. I don't know how mistletoe is in that, though.
• 17:37
  Leyla Zmeskal: I don't know.
• 17:38
  Trisha Smith: You did say botany so.
• 17:40
  Diane Black: I know but mistletoes,
• 17:42
  Leyla Zmeskal: Alright were doing,
• 17:42
  Diane Black: Need blood and flesh to grow. I don't know Trisha do the Google's just Google it. So why are you Google? I'm gonna continue.
• 17:51
  Diane Black: Okay, so tales of the dead craving blood are found in nearly every culture around the world. It's kind of like the lady in white and including some of the most ancient ones.
• 18:02
  Diane Black: Vampire like spirits called the, Lelu, are mentioned in early Babylonian and demonology. And the even more ancient blood sucking I'm gonna butcher the hell out of this book are karar?
• 18:16
  Diane Black: No, I'm gonna just spell it right. Let me try it one more time. AKA Kuru, AKAHKHARU.
• 18:26
  Leyla Zmeskal: Akakhuru?
• 18:29
  Diane Black: AkahKuru we'll go with aku and Sumerian mythology.
• 18:34
  Diane Black: So these female they were female demons were said to roam during the hours of darkness hunting and killing newborn babies and pregnant women. One of the demons named, Leeluta, was later adapted by Jewish demonology as Lilith.
• 18:51
  Leyla Zmeskal: Ah.
• 18:54
  Diane Black: Did you find about mistletoe?
• 18:56
  Trisha Smith: Do you want to hear?
• 18:57
  Diane Black: I do.
• 18:58
  Trisha Smith: Although people enjoy kissing under the mistletoe, the plant has another not so pleasant habit. Just as a vampire sucks the blood of its victims mistletoe has a victim to the plant on which it lives.
• 19:12
  Diane Black: Who knew.
• 19:14
  Trisha Smith: In order to get nourishment mistletoe plants sends its root like structures into the tissue of another plant or tree killing that plant or tree and sometimes even itself.
• 19:25
  Diane Black: You're welcome. We are here to educate.
• 19:29
  Trisha Smith: It will grow on these plants when birds carry like birds transmit it to other trees and plant it says sometimes the berry of the mistletoe plant explodes and the force of the explosion can carry it seeds up to 50 feet away.
• 19:48
  Trisha Smith: Wow,
• 19:49
  Leyla Zmeskal: That's a shot.
• 19:51
  Diane Black: Never look at mistletoe the same again. That was a very interesting fact.
• 19:56
  Leyla Zmeskal: That was interesting.
• 19:57
  Trisha Smith: Yeah.
• 19:58
  Diane Black: And then we move on to an India, so tales of Vetala which is a ghoul like being that inhabit corpses are found in old Sanskrit lore, a prominent storyteller of King Vic Rama Ditra and his a nightly guests to capture an elusive Vetala.
• 20:17
  Diane Black: Vetala is an undead creature who like the bat associated with modern day vampire ism hangs upside down on the trees found in cremation grounds in cemeteries. Then the hoppin corpse is an equivalent of the vampire This is found in in China. However, it consumes the victim's life essence other than blood, there is an Egyptian goddess Sekhmet in one myth became full of bloodlust after slaughtering humans, and was only satisfied after drinking alcohol colored as blood.
• 20:53
  Diane Black: Moving on to Romania, they use this word Strix, it's called a Strix. It's a nocturnal bird that fed on human flesh and blood. It's mentioned in Roman tales. The Romanian word for vampire is, Strigoi. It's derived from the word as in the name of the Albanian Striga, but the myths about those creatures show primarily Slavic influence, you're getting a history lesson.
• 21:23
  Diane Black: So, the vampire myth as we know it is most strongly rooted in Eastern European particularly Slavic folklore. And the vampires are usury remnants of suicide victims, criminals or evil sorcerers, though in some cases, a vampire could pass his vampire ism on to his innocent victims. It was also thought that a victim of a cruel untimely or violent death was susceptible to becoming a vampire. vampires were accused of killing people often by drinking the blood but also by throttling or sitting on them should keep breathing.
• 22:07
  Leyla Zmeskal: Sorry, just the word throttling. Like throttling on them.
• 22:14
  Diane Black: Remember romanticizing the vampires.
• 22:20
  Diane Black: Throttle me.
• 22:24
  Leyla Zmeskal: I just want to let it note on the record right now. I did not say that.
• 22:33
  Diane Black: Take me right back to middle school. No, but vampires were accused of killing peep. Oh, that was the throttle.
• 22:47
  Diane Black: Just one more time she just wanted to throttle. More throttle. But in this folklore a vampire over van Piper vamper.
• 23:00
  Leyla Zmeskal: She's all flustered right now.
• 23:03
  Diane Black: Okay, a vampire could be destroyed by cutting off its head by driving a wooden stake into its heart or by burning the corpse that's pretty much a common trait right Slavic vampires and talking about in lore. The Causes include being born with a cow so I wasn't sure what a cow was. I was thinking like a colic my cat. My kids have calyx, but a cow. Trisha do do know. A CAUL it's a portion of the of the ambionic like fluid and lining that gets stuck to the head. Think this. Oh, okay. Yeah. So if a baby is born with that, teeth or a tail again, this being.
• 23:47
  Leyla Zmeskal: What kind of teeth because aren't we?
• 23:50
  Diane Black: Well, I guess any teeth because if you have a newborn with teeth, I guess Yeah.
• 23:54
  Leyla Zmeskal: Especially paired with a tail, right?
• 23:56
  Diane Black: It's a vampire canines. I don't know. And then get this if it was conceived on certain days, air quotes, unnatural death, excommunicated and improper rurial rituals. So many Serbians believed that having red hair was a vampire trait.
• 24:17
  Leyla Zmeskal: Well, they are soulless.
• 24:20
  Diane Black: I have red hair.
• 24:22
  Leyla Zmeskal: Hmm.
• 24:26
  Diane Black: Maybe there goes the whole romanticizing of vampire so maybe there's something you don't know about me. If this occurs, preventive measures included placing a crucifix on the coffin, placing blocks under the chin to prevent the body from eating the shroud nailing close to coffin walls which we know that or putting sawdust in the coffin why you ask?
• 24:55
  Leyla Zmeskal: Hey Diane, why would they put sawdust in a coffin?
• 24:59
  Diane Black: I will tell How you so that the vampire awakens in the evening and compelled to count every grain of sawdust would occupies his entire time of the evening.
• 25:12
  Leyla Zmeskal: So they're obsessive compulsive?
• 25:14
  Diane Black: And then he will die at dawn there, I guess though. Oh, do it. That was something we didn't know about vampires I didn't know so they'd be so busy counting each grain of sawdust.
• 25:26
  Leyla Zmeskal: Bugger Off, I gotta count each one of these grains of salwdust before I could suck your blood.
• 25:32
  Diane Black: To late the sun's up. Crazy, right? And the case of steaks. The general idea was to pierce through the vampire and into the ground below penning the body down. Certain people would bury those believed to be potential vampires with it's called a sythe Do you know what a sythe this?
• 25:57
  Leyla Zmeskal: Isn't that like a hooked farm tool?
• 26:00
  Diane Black: Yes, very good.
• 26:00
  Diane Black: It's a long curved single edged blade. It has a long handle so they would put it above their necks. So the dead with decapitate themselves as they rose so evidence that a vampire was active and given locality how they would think oh my god, we've got a vampire in this area. If there were death of cattle, sheep, relatives or neighbors and exhumed body being in a lifelike state with new growth on the fingernails or hair, a body swelled up like a drum or blood on the mouth coupled with a Rudy complexion, Rudy, that's from that's from a homework. My husband loves that part of the movie because it's a little boy's name. And he's like, my name's Rudy. Sorry.
• 26:54
  Leyla Zmeskal: Does Hallmark have Halloween edition?
• 26:57
  Diane Black: They do. They're actually in Fall season right now. Their fall movies. It's all
• 27:01
  Leyla Zmeskal: Fall in love.
• 27:01
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah, it's not nobody dies does vampires and No,
• 27:08
  Diane Black: No, you know, trick or treating or fall festivals.
• 27:12
  Diane Black: Oh, okay. So vampires like other Slavic legendary monsters were afraid of garlic were compelled to count particles of grain which we discovered Saul Deus and the like. Vampires could be destroyed by staking decapitating and there was a group of people that lived in there still live Pomeranian which is over by Slavia which I just learned about this place.
• 27:40
  Diane Black: So there's a cultural group called the cash shops. And what they would do they would place the head between the feet burning, repeating the funeral service, sprinkling holy water on the body or perform an exorcism. Moving on to Romania tells a vampire trick entities were found among the ancient Romans and the Roman ised inhabitants of Eastern Europe.
• 28:05
  Diane Black: Romanians known as Vlach latches, flashes VLA, CHS flashes in historical content.
• 28:11
  Diane Black: Romania is surrounded by Slavic countries, so it is not surprising that Romanian Slavic empires are similar. Romanian vampires are called straightaway based on the ancient Greek term as I mentioned before Strick, which means screech out then it took on a different meaning to mean demon or which, because of its association, so there were different types of struggle there was live struggle being witches who would become vampires after death, and they have the ability to send out their souls at night to meet with other witches or with Striegel, which are reanimated bodies that returned to set the blood of the family livestock and neighbors. Other types of vampires in Romania folklore include Morio and Pico lucky go lucky. I'm mispronouncing that,
• 29:07
  Leyla Zmeskal: For fun were to say colicky.
• 29:11
  Diane Black: RICOL. I see I pick on Mickey icon. Oh, that sounds scary. That's fun. And the traditions of Romania described a myriad of ways of bringing about a vampire. A person again born with this cowl on the head or an extra nipple. I just like to say that again. An extra nipple. A tail was doomed to become a vampire. This is what they thought if you were born with either of these traits, and the same fate apply to someone born too early. Someone whose mother encountered a black cat crossing her path.
• 29:54
  Trisha Smith: I have a black Yeah,
• 30:00
  Diane Black: So, and someone who was born out of wedlock who'll give them any reason, right? A woman at the stake back in the days, others who became vampires were those who died and the natural death, or before baptism, and the seventh child in any family, presuming all of his or her previous siblings were of the same sex. So if you had six boys and your seventh child born was a girl, it's a vampire. Yeah, right. Also the child of a pregnant woman who avoided eating salt and a person who was looking looked upon by a vampire or which, moreover, being bitten by a vampire meant certain combination course, to a vampire dark existence after death. I mean, that's a kind of given, right? Or I don't know, because I don't know if your bit by vampire doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to become a vampire based on some movies.
• 31:00
  Diane Black: True, right.
• 31:03
  Leyla Zmeskal: But they all develop some kind of unstable mental states. Yeah,
• 31:09
  Diane Black: So the vampire was usually first noticed when it attacked family and livestock or threw things around the house.
• 31:16
  Diane Black: vampires were believed to be most active on the eve of two religious holidays. One was the feast of St. George, which is May 4 through the fifth, according to the Gregorian calendar would be April 22, to the 23rd. And the second day was the feast of St. Andrew Bing, November 23, and 24th or the Gregorian calendar, November 29 30th. So the feast of St.
• 31:44
  Diane Black: George, it was a very important festival honoring do you have to guess? St. George, she's smarty.
• 31:52
  Leyla Zmeskal: You're so smart.
• 31:53
  Leyla Zmeskal: She knew the answer right away.
• 31:55
  Leyla Zmeskal: I was gonna say vampires.
• 31:58
  Diane Black: Well, it was also known as the Great Martyr George was a beloved saint. Not only was he acknowledged as a patron of England, but many other countries as well. He was also the patron of horses, cattle, wolves, and all enemies of witches and vampires. So people were to remain in their homes on these days and continuous light throughout the night. They placed the Warrens across the thresholds, painted crosses on their doors with tar, put thistles on their windows, lit bonfires and spread garlic everywhere they could. So throughout the night, prayers would be recited repeatedly, nobody would sleep if the night went well, without any occurrences, the Saints feast was celebrated with much exuberance. So the thorns and garlic were then replaced by roses and flowers. So everybody did that. Like it was a thing, it's just different times right.
• 32:56
  Diane Black: And during these times it was Right and it was considered wise to rub garlic on the doors and windows to protect the family at all time. Livestock was also at risk of an attack. So precautions were taking with them as well and they would rub them down with garlic. A vampire in the grave could be discerned by holes in the earth. And an decomposed corpse with A root D face says read but I wanted to say really again, Rudy face or with one foot in the corner of the coffin,
• 33:44
  Leyla Zmeskal: Like how many graves did they mean? How many caskets do they open up to go?
• 33:46
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh, that guy right there's got a foot in the corner of empire. I guess just different times back
• 34:03
  Diane Black: was different times. And living vampires were identified by disturbing garlic in church and observing who would refuse to eat it. So if you didn't eat garlic, you're assumed to be a vampire. So you just had a question about how many graves a day open? Well, I kind of have an answer a little bit. graves were often opened three years after the death of a child five years after the death of a young person or seven years after the death of an adult to check for vampire ism.
• 34:37
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh now I think what are
• 34:38
  Trisha Smith: They checking for like Vampire?
• 34:42
  Leyla Zmeskal: Teeth. I'm either D complexion.
• 34:46
  Trisha Smith: Like if you opened it up and your five year old that died is now 12
• 34:51
  Diane Black: Your body wasn't gorgeous. Remember I went to Sudan earlier. body was in gorged
• 34:58
  Trisha Smith: Three years though.
• 35:00
  Diane Black: He's gonna be in gorged mostly mostly
• 35:04
  Leyla Zmeskal: Just worked himself in a tizzy because they open up these damn coffins and like, oh, this body doesn't look like it should when it was alive like so
• 35:15
  Diane Black: Vampires be a vampire. So everyone they opened up was the vampire troll sawdust and the coffee hence why everybody stayed in their houses and took such extreme measures because they were had an abundance of vampire
• 35:30
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh man those crazy times
• 35:31
  Diane Black: Back. So they used a lot of the same techniques to destroy a vampire a steak was driven through the body followed by decapitation. We know that and placing garlic but by the 19th century, one would also shoot a bullet through the coffin because now they can but for Reese for resistant cases, the body was dismembered and the pieces burned mixed with water and administered to family members as a cure.
• 36:01
  Trisha Smith: That's called Ecoli you're just having your family members join you in death. That's all
• 36:14
  Leyla Zmeskal: I don't like that fucker when he was alive. I sure as hell don't want his ashes mixed with water served to me on the damn slides adults.
• 36:22
  Leyla Zmeskal: Here drink it.
• 36:24
  Leyla Zmeskal: Drink No, no, no, no.
• 36:30
  Diane Black: We're gonna move on to Greece now
• 36:33
  Leyla Zmeskal: Our Greek vampires like swavvy?
• 36:38
  Diane Black: Aren't they all kind of questions. But the belief in vampires was common in the night. 10th century. Greek customs may have propagated this belief, notably a ritual that entailed zooming the deceased after three years of death, and observing the extent of decay, so if the body was fully decayed, the remaining bones were put in a box by relatives and wine poured over them. A priest would then read from Scripture however, if the body had not sufficiently decayed the corpse would be labeled a vampire. And according to Greek believes vampire ism could occur through various means.
• 37:21
  Diane Black: excommunication or desecrating a religious plan. Also, sorry, committing a great crime or dying alone if you died alone.
• 37:35
  Diane Black: You were
• 37:35
  Leyla Zmeskal: A vampire? Yes.
• 37:35
  Leyla Zmeskal: What have you hated people?
• 37:39
  Diane Black: A lot of people died, sadly. Alone. But I mean, if they're elderly and nobody's checking on, you know, I don't know different times. The appearance of vampires vary throughout Greece, and we're usually thought to be in disguise double from living people giving rise to many folk tales with this theme. However, this was not the case everywhere. On Mount mount pillion vampires glowed in the dark, while on Sora neck Saronic islands, vampires were thought to be hunchbacks with long nails and on the islands of Lesbos.
• 38:21
  Leyla Zmeskal: What was the boss, le BPOS. You say that doesn't have the extra s that you added? For starters, I'd say the island of Libous
• 38:39
  Diane Black: Lesbos, Lesbos vampires s. Le Le s POS, the vampires were thought to have long canine teeth. Vampires could be harmless, sometimes returning to support their widows by their work. However, they were usually thought to be ravenous predators, killing their victims who would be condemned to becoming vampires.
• 38:59
  Diane Black: Vampires were so feared that their potential for great harm that a village or an island would occasionally be stricken by mass panic if a vampire invasion were believed imminent.
• 39:13
  Diane Black: Crazy varieties of words were employed for protection in different places including blessed bread from the church crosses and black handled knives. To prevent vampires from rising from the dead. Their hearts were pierced with iron nails while resting in their graves or their bodies burned in the ashes scattered I stopped there. There was a whole lot more that I wanted to share, but it went on and on. A lot of it was the same. But so I pulled out the highlights that I thought were just really fun,
• 39:55
  Leyla Zmeskal: Fun facts. Fun Facts about vampires. Fun Facts About the iron Oh yeah. So real fun facts.
• 40:08
  Diane Black: And some things that you didn't know. I found it extremely interesting.
• 40:17
  Trisha Smith: There are some things that were better left in the past.
• 40:22
  Leyla Zmeskal: Crazy times back then. Strange times.
• 40:26
  Trisha Smith: Well, when you said the strict goy, yeah, that reminded me there's a book series. Oh, it's a trilogy. And they turned it into a show. It was on FX, I think you might have heard of it was called the strain. Oh, yes. I did hear that. Yeah. And that was what they called. Or, you know, the characters in the book or the show. That's what they called their vampires. So was really, I didn't get into the show. But the book was amazing.
• 40:56
  Leyla Zmeskal: I watched a few edge so the book was so
• 40:59
  Trisha Smith: Much better.
• 40:59
  Trisha Smith: Really? Yeah. Yeah, definitely.
• 41:01
  Trisha Smith: That's
• 41:01
  Diane Black: Usually the case.
• 41:01
  Diane Black: Yeah, yeah. So I hope you enjoyed that history lesson.
• 41:09
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah.
• 41:16
  Diane Black: We're coming up to we are in spooky season we are so my first love of vampires.
• 41:21
  Diane Black: Just just a natural topic. It was
• 41:31
  Leyla Zmeskal: You I don't I don't think I ever knew that about you, Diane, that you?
• 41:33
  Leyla Zmeskal: Love, love.
• 41:38
  Diane Black: Love. It's yeah, it was probably at one point. An unhealthy do
• 41:50
  Leyla Zmeskal: participate in you know, ticking up. No saying if there's a foot in the corner.
• 41:56
  Diane Black: I did not although I worked at a funeral home. In high school. Yeah,
• 42:02
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'm not surprised about that. Actually. Yeah,
• 42:03
  Diane Black: I mean, we I worked in the pre arranged funeral. The guy was dating his family owned it.
• 42:09
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh, a pre arranged funeral
• 42:10
  Diane Black: Pre. That's what I would work with. Like selling pre arranged. Oh, tell a story.
• 42:13
  Diane Black: Why sure did okay. My boyfriend's family owned it and we would often after hours go visit the showroom. I remember that. You minx. I'm telling you I think and I think that kind
• 42:34
  Leyla Zmeskal: Of was like fueled your or my
• 42:38
  Diane Black: My effectuation with vampires fueled my interest to work there and then visit after visit the showroom after hours.
• 42:49
  Trisha Smith: Sell those gaskets or whoever's dead?
• 42:52
  Diane Black: No going there.
• 42:52
  Diane Black: Just showroom. Yeah, models.
• 42:56
  Trisha Smith: Thank God. Because if I was dead, and I was in one of those, I'd be like, Oh, no, I'm alive. Now. Take me out.
• 43:05
  Trisha Smith: There's too much activity.
• 43:08
  Diane Black: Too much residual energy. Yes, it's true.
• 43:19
  Leyla Zmeskal: Wow, that's a that was an interesting one about about vampires and different culture,
• 43:26
  Diane Black: The folklore and the practices and what's not just folklore, I mean that this stuff really happened like the people that believed and were trying to protect their families and their cattle, their livestock. I mean, they did these things. They dug up the graves, and they checked them every three to five to seven years. Wow. So
• 43:48
  Trisha Smith: This makes me need another cocktail.
• 43:49
  Diane Black: I know. I hope it was a lot. It was a lot I know.
• 43:54
  Diane Black: And I shortened it was hard to pick and choose. Yeah. Well, thank you for sharing. Yeah, you're welcome. It was fun.
• 44:03
  Leyla Zmeskal: Interesting. If our listeners out there share the same love of vampires as Diane does. Let us know.
• 44:10
  Trisha Smith: Yeah. Hey, I'd like to know how many more weirdos are out there.
• 44:17
  Leyla Zmeskal: What's your favourite spooky season character? Diane's is obviously vampires. What's yours, Trisha?
• 44:22
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh,
• 44:23
  Trisha Smith: Oh, I've never I guess I'd never thought about having a favorite. I think to ponder that.
• 44:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: Probably vampires. This is probably mine.
• 44:32
  Leyla Zmeskal: Really? I love love love Bram Stoker's drag. Oh, well, canneries. Yeah, Gary Oldman, isn't it? Hmm.
• 44:44
  Trisha Smith: I was more of a Van Helsing fan. Oh, yeah. You know, kill the vampires.
• 44:52
  Leyla Zmeskal: You know, you had a heart at the end. Yeah. He just wanted to be loved.
• 44:56
  Leyla Zmeskal: Whatever your All right Speaking of good.
• 45:11
  Trisha Smith: Cheers.
• 45:12
  Diane Black: Cheers.
• 45:13
  Leyla Zmeskal: Hey, like what you hear?
• 45:14
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• 45:16
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• 45:19
  Leyla Zmeskal: Thanks for listening.
• 45:21
  Trisha Smith: Until next time.
• 45:22
  Diane Black: Late-a.