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These heroes wear fur coats! PET HEROES SAVE THE DAY! · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. First of all, Merry Christmas,
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Speaker 1: What a day around our world? And today we put
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Speaker 1: murder and mayhem aside and we focus on something good. Heroes,
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Speaker 1: but not just ordinary heroes, Pet heroes. Crime Stories with
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. Let's start off with one of my favorite
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Speaker 1: pet heroes, Killian Listen. After moving to Charleston last year,
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Speaker 1: Benjamin and Hope Jordan needed to find a babysitter for
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Speaker 1: their then seven month old son, Finn. It didn't take
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Speaker 1: long for the couple to find someone. We felt like
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Speaker 1: Alexis was a good fit at the time. They hired
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Speaker 1: twenty one year old Alexis Kahn for the job, who
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Speaker 1: came up clean in a background check. However, their confidence
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Speaker 1: in Kahn didn't last too long. About five months into
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Speaker 1: her being our babysitter, we started notice that our dog
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Speaker 1: was very defensive of our son. Whenever she would come
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Speaker 1: in the door, he was very aggressive towards her, and
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Speaker 1: a few times we actually had to physically restrain our
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Speaker 1: dog from going towards her. With me and I'll star
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Speaker 1: panel to break you down and put it back together again.
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Speaker 1: California prosecutor, author of Red Flags and the host off
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Speaker 1: today with doctor Wendy on kBq at Wendy Patrick PhD
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Speaker 1: dot com. We're now psychiatrists joining us out of the
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Speaker 1: Atlanta jurisdiction. Doctor Angela Arnold Chase at Angela Arnold MD
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Speaker 1: dot com. Former police Chief John's Creek, twenty five year
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Speaker 1: US on the fours now PI and Polygrapher Chris Buyers
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Speaker 1: Investigations and polygraph dot com. Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University,
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Speaker 1: author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon. Joseph Scott Morgan.
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Speaker 1: Special guests joining us today the Atlanta Dog Whisperer, dog
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Speaker 1: behaviorists with USK nine specializing and treating rehabbing dogs and
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Speaker 1: you can find her at Usknine dot com, our special
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Speaker 1: friend Angie wood But first to Ran Kaputo, Lead news
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Speaker 1: anchor WDBO Orlando Ray. I will never forget when I
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Speaker 1: hired the first babysitter to be with the twins in
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Speaker 1: New York. While I would go to h LLN and
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Speaker 1: typically I would stay with them, bathe them, feed them,
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Speaker 1: get them ready for bad, I would cut out at
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Speaker 1: five thirty, fight the cross town traffic, and very often,
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Speaker 1: depending on what programs I did that night, wouldn't get
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Speaker 1: home till ten thirty or eleven o'clock at night. First
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Speaker 1: of all, I tricked the whole place out with baby cams,
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Speaker 1: ran background checks on everybody, and was so freaked out.
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Speaker 1: I actually ended up getting two nurses, one worst nurse
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Speaker 1: to watch the other nurse while she watched the twins. Okay,
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Speaker 1: that's how freaked out I was because of all the
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Speaker 1: stories we hear, but seemingly in this case, the dog
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Speaker 1: knew what humans couldn't figure out. Tell me about this
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Speaker 1: little baby. Tell me about the dog. Let's start out
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Speaker 1: the get go. So they hire a babysitter. Who is she?
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Speaker 1: Her name is Alexis con Nancy And like a lot
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Speaker 1: of folks, a lot of parents. Oh did you say
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Speaker 1: con is in c O n h A n con
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Speaker 1: Mmmm okay, go ahead, Yeah, and you know the parents,
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Speaker 1: they have what means to do background checks and they
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Speaker 1: be searched for they were responsible and it came up clean.
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Speaker 1: So what they thought is they found a really responsible
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Speaker 1: person to care for their child. But that wasn't the case.
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Speaker 1: You know, I will never forget Joe Scott. I think
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Speaker 1: you were there when I went to crime Con. It
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Speaker 1: was being held in Indianapolis, and I was going to
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Speaker 1: go moderate a panel about an ongoing investigation, and I
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Speaker 1: let my husband picked the babysitter. Of course, I talked
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Speaker 1: to the babysitter first, but then I found out it
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Speaker 1: was fromcare dot Com and I nearly went through the
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Speaker 1: roof because I had covered a case where a care
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Speaker 1: dot com babysitter had hit a baby. Well, this woman
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Speaker 1: couldn't that we got. I run out of the panel
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Speaker 1: and say I have to take a bathroom break, run
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Speaker 1: to the hotel room and spy on the babysitter. She
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Speaker 1: was wonderful, she was perfect. They were playing some kind
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Speaker 1: of a board game. So I popped in like I
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Speaker 1: had just stopped by. I fake and she said, you
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Speaker 1: know what, there's a beautiful walkway along the water. I'm like, no,
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Speaker 1: nowhere near the water. State in this room. Do not
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Speaker 1: leave this room. But my point is you can run
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Speaker 1: a background check, you can do everything possible, and you
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Speaker 1: still may not find out about the babysitter. Are absolutely right.
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Speaker 1: You never know what someone is up to outside of
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Speaker 1: this kind of you know, faux electronic field that we
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Speaker 1: have out here. We can throw out all these sensors
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Speaker 1: and try to detect what somebody's actually going but she
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Speaker 1: actually doing. But you can't look into their hearts. You
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Speaker 1: certainly can't look into their minds. You know what's interesting
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Speaker 1: to doctor Angela Arnold joining us today's psychiatrists out of Atlanta,
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Speaker 1: Doctor Arnold, the family, the mom and dad didn't pick
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Speaker 1: up on anything, but the dog killing would bear teeth
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Speaker 1: and growl and LUNs toward the babysitter. That's a big indicator.
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Speaker 1: I always say listen to your hunches because they're not
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Speaker 1: just hunches. You're picking up on something that even your
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Speaker 1: mind may not be able to decipher, Doctor Angie, And
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Speaker 1: you know what, nitsa also just for everybody that's listening
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Speaker 1: out there, I also believe that as much as you
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Speaker 1: as much as you feel like you trust this person
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Speaker 1: that you've hired, don't really ever trust anybody completely. Don't.
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Speaker 1: It's a baby that can't speak, So yes, you have to.
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Speaker 1: You have to watch what your dog is doing. You're
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Speaker 1: fortunate enough to have a dog. You have to watch
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Speaker 1: what your baby's doing. Does the baby does the baby
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Speaker 1: recoil a little bit when this person comes into the room.
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Speaker 1: But never trust anybody completely. You know, that's a good
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Speaker 1: point because Wendy Patrick, I would watch the twins and
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Speaker 1: when the babysitter came in, they acted happy, and I
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Speaker 1: think that's a really good indicator. I like doctor Angie
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Speaker 1: saying to watch the way the baby responds or the
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Speaker 1: way in this case, the dog responds. Wendy Patrick, that's
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Speaker 1: exactly right, Mancy. That's what my book is about. Red flags.
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Speaker 1: You can tell the dynamic between people by the way
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Speaker 1: they respond to each other. I mean, think about the
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Speaker 1: cases that you've prosecuted, the stalkers, the domestic abusers. It's
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Speaker 1: the way someone tenses up, the way their eyes look different,
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Speaker 1: the way their muscles tense. They react differently depending on
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Speaker 1: what somebody else is like and what that reaction is like.
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Speaker 1: Asal tells you a lot about the relationship. And we
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Speaker 1: think that dogs can't pick these things up, they absolutely can.
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Speaker 1: This was a baby bodyguard in this case. And basically,
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Speaker 1: kudos for Killian. This is the kind of thing that
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Speaker 1: Tip's parents thought as to what the strangers they bring
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Speaker 1: their homes are really like to Angie, would the Atlanta
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Speaker 1: Dog Whisperer at USK nine dot com, We were just
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Speaker 1: listening to our friend Harve Jacobs at WCSC Live five.
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Speaker 1: He says that at times the mom and dad actually
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Speaker 1: had to restrain the dog from lunging toward the babysit
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Speaker 1: or what does that tell you, Angie Wood, Well, it
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Speaker 1: definitely tells me that the dog knows that that lady
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Speaker 1: was evil on the inside, even though she projected kindness
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Speaker 1: on the outside. He can't lie to an animal. They
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Speaker 1: don't speak, so therefore they feel you. They don't they
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Speaker 1: don't listen to your words. They feel who you are,
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Speaker 1: who your soul is. And if my dog doesn't like
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Speaker 1: somebody and they're typically friendly, which is what I read
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Speaker 1: about this dog, then by all means my red flag
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Speaker 1: is going ting ting king and I'm listening. Well, that's
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Speaker 1: tough for us because fat boy, who was bill to
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Speaker 1: me as the thoroughbred dogs and at the pound, so
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Speaker 1: not thoroughbred anything outside of me who feeds him every day,
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Speaker 1: my husband, the children, and my mother who lives with us,
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Speaker 1: he growls and barks at everybody. Unkend. Yeah, he's nervous
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Speaker 1: and Jackie he doesn't grow Yeah, it's not growl a Jackie.
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Speaker 1: Everybody else, everybody. They can't all be bad people, so
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Speaker 1: he's not that perfect of a barometer. So what is
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Speaker 1: it that the dog knows that people don't know Angie. Well,
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Speaker 1: they have a non verbal language, so therefore they feel
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Speaker 1: your feelings, they feel your vibe, they know what's going
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Speaker 1: on with you. And if your sideways, they understand. But
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Speaker 1: if your dog is typically nervous and growls at everybody,
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Speaker 1: that's kind of normal. You're not nervous aggress He is
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Speaker 1: not nervous. He gets down. Have you ever seen Snoopy
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Speaker 1: and the comic strip? He gets down and Snoopy mode,
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Speaker 1: His legs bowl out. He gets like that far off
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Speaker 1: the ground, his tail points out one way and his
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Speaker 1: nose points the other way, and he like kind of
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Speaker 1: creeps toward the poor unsuspecting delivery person. Crime stories with
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, Guys, we are talking about real live heroes
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Speaker 1: that were furry coats. We're talking about pet heroes, and
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Speaker 1: we're starting off with a babysitter. This is a sweet
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Speaker 1: dog Killian who goes into a tacmode every time the
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Speaker 1: babysitter comes around. Take a lesson again to Harve Jacob's
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Speaker 1: WCSC Live five Knees, the now suspicious parents had a plan.
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Speaker 1: Hope suggest that they place an iPhone under the couch
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Speaker 1: and let the phone record what happens while they weren't work.
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Speaker 1: When the couple got home, they listened to the tape
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Speaker 1: and were horrified by what they heard. It started with cussing,
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Speaker 1: then you hear slap noises, and his crying changes from
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Speaker 1: a distress cry to a pain And I just wanted
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Speaker 1: to reach through the audio tape, go back in time
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Speaker 1: and scrab them up to know that five months I
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Speaker 1: had handed my child to a monster, not knowing what
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Speaker 1: was going on in my house for that day. Charleston
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Speaker 1: City Police arrested Khan a few weeks later, as she
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Speaker 1: confessed to the crime. Yesterday, she pleaded guilty to assault
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Speaker 1: and battery. The sentence one to three years in prison.
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Speaker 1: As part of her plea, Khan also will be placed
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Speaker 1: at a child abuse registry, which means she will not
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Speaker 1: be allowed to work with children. All thanks you hero
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Speaker 1: dog Killian and the Jordans say, had our dog not
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Speaker 1: alerted us to trouble, had my wife's instincts not said
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Speaker 1: we need to make something happen, it could have been
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Speaker 1: Fin that was killed. You never know. And I'm looking
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Speaker 1: at photos of this little boy right now, and to
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Speaker 1: imagine that this dog, this little baby was slapped and mistreated.
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Speaker 1: We find out that the twenty two year old babysitter
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Speaker 1: con had to serve at least one year of three
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Speaker 1: year sentence and as you just heard, register as a
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Speaker 1: child abuser. Take a listen to the parents speaking out.
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Speaker 1: Killian is a very late back dog, Hope Box. When
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Speaker 1: someone comes to the door that you know, once they
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Speaker 1: come in and he knows that that person is okay,
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Speaker 1: he's fine, you know, he shines, stays away. But after
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Speaker 1: a while, Kilian actually started to after the Barton. You
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Speaker 1: would actually be aggressive towards her, the hair on his
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Speaker 1: on his neck with raves and um. Towards the end,
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Speaker 1: I actually had to stop Henson join fourth and that
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Speaker 1: has never done that before. Wow. What's really interesting here
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Speaker 1: is that your dog instantly became protective of the baby
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Speaker 1: and was thus able to alert you. It's interesting how
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Speaker 1: dogs have such amazing connection, right. He definitely was protecting
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Speaker 1: those in front of the pack. You are hearing Benjamin
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Speaker 1: and Hope Jordan's speaking to emotional Molo TV on the
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Speaker 1: dog believing that the baby was the youngest member of
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Speaker 1: the pick. Straight back to Angie Wood, the Atlanta Dog
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Speaker 1: whisperer at uskin dot com. What does that mean, Angie, Well,
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Speaker 1: this was abnormal behavior for this particular dog who tend
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Speaker 1: to be a little reserved yet friendly, and to behave
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Speaker 1: in this abnormal way tells us that the dog has
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Speaker 1: had some association, some experience that was not delightful around
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Speaker 1: this human. Thank god the parents listened, and really we're
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Speaker 1: in tune to their own instincts to put the iPhone
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Speaker 1: under the sofa. And I'm right on with you that
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Speaker 1: every square foot or inch of your home should be
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Speaker 1: covered by a camera when a stranger is watching your baby.
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Speaker 1: Let's turn our attention away from hero dog killing in
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Speaker 1: to another hero dog, an abused shelter dog much like
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Speaker 1: our dog, fat Boy, that we got at a pound,
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Speaker 1: along with our cat Cinnamon, named by my daughter. And
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Speaker 1: of course, believed or not, there are rescue guinea pigs
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Speaker 1: Abby and Chloe. Believe me it's true. I clean their
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Speaker 1: cage every morning. At six fifty five am, an AB's
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Speaker 1: shelter dog Peanut now held as a hero. How did
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Speaker 1: it all start? Take a listen to Mark Calman at
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Speaker 1: TV six just after eleven am Friday, Delta County Sheriff's
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Speaker 1: responded to a call about a child found alive in
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Speaker 1: a ditch in rapid River. The child was found naked
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Speaker 1: and taken to a nearby neighbor's house to wait for
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Speaker 1: authorities to arrive. The child's parents were subsequently located and
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Speaker 1: the child was removed from the home. The child is
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Speaker 1: fine and as well and is in good hands as
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Speaker 1: we speak. There was one other child that was located
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Speaker 1: in the home. That child was removed as well. Into
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Speaker 1: my knowledge, both those children are together in a foster care.
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Speaker 1: Take on a prosecuting attorney, Phil Strom said that the
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Speaker 1: investigation into the situation is just beginning. It is just beginning.
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Speaker 1: Straight out to Ray Kimputo lead news that encourage w dB,
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Speaker 1: Oh what happened on the chilly day? This was around Escanoba, Michigan.
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Speaker 1: That's the northern part of the state, really right around
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Speaker 1: week Superior, and it was thirty two degrees offside. Wait
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Speaker 1: a minute, I gotta tell you something, Ray, I've been
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Speaker 1: to some of the great lakes. I hope to go
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Speaker 1: to all of them. And I went tried to go
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Speaker 1: down to the water and it was so cold and windy.
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Speaker 1: I mean these lakes. I mean it looks like an ocean.
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Speaker 1: You can't even see the end of it. They're so huge.
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Speaker 1: And the wind was so powerful coming off It's like
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Speaker 1: walking along the ocean at stormtime. It nearly knocked me over.
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Speaker 1: The wind was so fierce near the Great Lakes, at
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Speaker 1: least that Great Lake. So I'm sorry I got side checked.
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Speaker 1: I was just thinking about a child being near that
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Speaker 1: windy lake. Go ahead, Yeah, when the auntie, I grew
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Speaker 1: up just off Lake Ontario, and at this time the
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Speaker 1: year looks like party. We're saying it is hell warmed
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Speaker 1: over because it's different. It's not like being by the
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Speaker 1: ocean in the winter. It's it's the waves and the
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Speaker 1: cold and the wind. It's very inhabitable. But this, this
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Speaker 1: is the conditions this little girl. It was around Lebanham.
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Speaker 1: She she got out and his dog just starts barking
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Speaker 1: instinctively and had a feeling that something was outside. So
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Speaker 1: so a little Peanut starts running around and the owner
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Speaker 1: opens the door and the dog just just bolts off.
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at a picture of Peanut right now, and
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Speaker 1: Peanut is a perfect name for this dog. He's a
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Speaker 1: mixture of honey, blonde and light brown, and he's got
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Speaker 1: beautiful amber looking eyes literally with partially a pink nose
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Speaker 1: with brown on either side. And it maybe a girl
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Speaker 1: dog because he's wearing the dog is wearing a pink collar.
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Speaker 1: I'm just guessing, but it's amazing to me how this
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Speaker 1: rescue dog, Peanut, an abused shelter dog, is being held
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Speaker 1: as a hero for alerting her brand new owners to
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Speaker 1: a naked three year old girl found curled up and
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Speaker 1: barely alive outside. You know, to you, Angie Wood, the
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Speaker 1: Atlanta dog Whisperer dog behaviorist at USK nine dot com,
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Speaker 1: A lot of people pay to have a thoroughbred dog,
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Speaker 1: specifically pen agreed. Um. I know I have a family
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Speaker 1: member that loves they. Let's see the is it King
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Speaker 1: Charles Cavalier Charles Cavalier Spaniel? Yes, yeah, And there's a
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Speaker 1: royal in there. There's a royal cavalier, then there's a
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Speaker 1: regular cavalier. I don't know the deaf, but they're into
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Speaker 1: the royal cavaliers. And I got to tell you they're
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Speaker 1: so sweet. We went for the variety and you know,
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Speaker 1: the dog has Our dog has become attached to his
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Speaker 1: Christmas sweater and I've never been one for dressing dogs
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Speaker 1: and people clothes, but you know, we can't get it
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Speaker 1: off of him, so I guess they'll wear it till
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Speaker 1: next Christmas. Long story short, What do you think is
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Speaker 1: the difference between a shelter dog and a pedigree dog,
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Speaker 1: If any I mean Peanut apparently was abused and was
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Speaker 1: rescued at a shelter. I don't see, quite frankly, any
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Speaker 1: differing except for the reason that we bred dogs, right,
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Speaker 1: so pure bred dogs, we humans bred them to do
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Speaker 1: specific task for us. But a mutt, you know, is
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Speaker 1: a blend of all of these dogs, and a nose
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Speaker 1: as a nose as a nose, you know, and a
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Speaker 1: dog as a dog. So little Peanut understood that something
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Speaker 1: was going on outside of our home and our environment,
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Speaker 1: that something was different, that there was a human out there.
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Speaker 1: And she says that she smelled it and immediately alerted
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Speaker 1: people because just instinctually in her brain should understand something's wrong.
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Speaker 1: This is not normal. This is not only what happens
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Speaker 1: crime stories. With Nancy Grace. Guys, we are talking about
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Speaker 1: a hero shelter dog who had been horribly used and
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Speaker 1: take into a shelter that saves the life of a
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Speaker 1: three year old little girl found naked, curled up in
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Speaker 1: a ditch near death. Now, the owner says that Peanut
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Speaker 1: had been acting strangely all morning and had been running
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Speaker 1: up and down the stairs of their home, barking and yelping. Now,
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Speaker 1: if that were normal, the owner may not have noticed.
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Speaker 1: But even fat Boy, who goes crazy all the time,
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Speaker 1: wouldn't do that. He would not run up and down
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Speaker 1: the steps barking and acting crazy. You know, Angie Wood,
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Speaker 1: I've always been highly allergic to cats until I took
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Speaker 1: in a stray that I couldn't get anybody else to
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Speaker 1: take when I was a prosecutor living in midtown Atlanta,
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Speaker 1: and the poor little kitten would come up crying, hungry,
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Speaker 1: and I could tell it was just so thin. So
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Speaker 1: I started feeding the cat solid blight. I named it Coco,
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Speaker 1: and Coco, you know, became one of my life long loves.
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Speaker 1: I had Coco for nineteen years, and one night, Coco,
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Speaker 1: out of the blue. It was a boy cat jumped
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Speaker 1: up on the bed where I was working on a case.
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Speaker 1: Of course, like midnight, at ted on the bed. I'm like, Cocoa,
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Speaker 1: what are you doing? He had never done anything like
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Speaker 1: that at all. And I called my then husband and said,
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Speaker 1: do you know what co coach just did? Got on
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Speaker 1: the bed with me while I'm working Anti TI right
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Speaker 1: in front of me, and he went, where you need
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Speaker 1: to put cocoa outside. I'm like, you know what, I'm
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Speaker 1: taking cocoa to the emergency room because this is so
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Speaker 1: out of character for this cat to have ever done.
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Speaker 1: And guess what, the cat was sick. So what I'm
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Speaker 1: saying is for this dog to be running up down
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Speaker 1: the stairs barking frenetically was a sound of alarm to
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Speaker 1: his human owners. Indeed, it was a sound of alarm.
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Speaker 1: It's like something is awry here, something's not normal. So
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Speaker 1: bad dog definitely smelled and that baby in the ditch
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Speaker 1: out there, and knew that something was awry. The dog steals.
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Speaker 1: You know, we all always heard dogs know when we're afraid,
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Speaker 1: that's the most common thing. But they know when we're whatever.
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Speaker 1: You're happy, you're fad, you're anxious, abnormal, anxious, or nervous.
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Speaker 1: So a baby being in the ditch outside the house
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Speaker 1: is not normal. So the dog is in a little
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Speaker 1: bit of alert panic, please pay attention, state, And that's
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Speaker 1: what all the pacing and the barking and yelling is
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Speaker 1: about so bringing attention to it is very much about
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Speaker 1: pack order. Hey, something's wrong over here, Please help. And
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Speaker 1: that's the communication that they tend to send out. So
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Speaker 1: they're not as logical as we are, but they're very instinctual,
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Speaker 1: so they pick up on these things way before we would.
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Speaker 1: We can't smell a baby outside that. And then what
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Speaker 1: I've said a million times to Jesse Scott Morgan, Professor
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Speaker 1: forensic Shacksonall State, the best witness I ever put on
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Speaker 1: the stand in all my years hearings, bond forfeitter hearings,
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Speaker 1: bond hearings, jury trials, bench trial, you name. It was
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Speaker 1: a dog, it was a drug dog. It's the best
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Speaker 1: witness I ever put on a stand because dogs don't lie,
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Speaker 1: j Scott, No, no, no, they don't, Nancy. And you know,
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Speaker 1: the beauty part of this is that this little baby
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Speaker 1: that this dog found and to me, this is little
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Speaker 1: baby's three year old, little naked girl and in a ditch.
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Speaker 1: Can you imagine in that cold and this little this
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Speaker 1: little dog was a shelter dog. Nancy. You don't know
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Speaker 1: what kind of life this dog had had beforehand, and
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm I've got a soft spot for dogs.
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Speaker 1: We rescue dogs in our home. I've got three right
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Speaker 1: here in the room with me. And you know, the
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Speaker 1: beauty part is this is that this dog's life was
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Speaker 1: saved by somebody, Okay, And this dog in turn saved
23:48
Speaker 1: this little girl's life, Nancy. This little girl was suffering
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Speaker 1: from hypothermia. I guarantee you and would have been dead,
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Speaker 1: and I can I can promise you this would have
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Speaker 1: been dead. We know that a ditch is wet anyway.
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Speaker 1: Can you imagine a ditch in northern Michigan thirty two
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Speaker 1: degrees and we're not even talking about ground temperature now,
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Speaker 1: thirty two degrees naked, shivering cold, And that dog had
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Speaker 1: the sense to look out the window and alert on
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Speaker 1: that little child out there in that ditch and wound
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Speaker 1: up saving this child. And one of the beauty part
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Speaker 1: of this whole thing is that when the EMTs got
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Speaker 1: to this little baby, she said one word, and that
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Speaker 1: was doggy. And that's amazing to me. The man allegedly
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Speaker 1: wraps the shivering little girl in his sweatshirt takes her inside,
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Speaker 1: caused police. The weather that day in Delta County had
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Speaker 1: reached freezing temperature. He says, quote, the little girl was
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Speaker 1: barely hanging on for her life by the time the
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Speaker 1: ambulance and police arrived. As Joe Scott says, the little
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Speaker 1: girl said one thing, donkey, so hero Peanut say the day.
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Speaker 1: But let's don't start Let's don't stop there, Let's go
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Speaker 1: straight on to Puppy. Take a listen to this little
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Speaker 1: boys reunited with his family after a neighbor found him
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Speaker 1: walking around in North City's Biden neighborhood. To her surprise,
25:14
Speaker 1: he was with the dog who never left his side.
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Speaker 1: The neighbor went above and beyond to make sure that
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Speaker 1: that child got home safe. And by the way, the
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Speaker 1: little guy there Taylor says that he really liked the
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Speaker 1: pit bull who was like a guard for him. He
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Speaker 1: kept saying Puppy while he was being reunited. We're told
25:30
Speaker 1: Saint Louis City police might be adopting that guy. What
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Speaker 1: a dream come true if this hero dog ends up
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Speaker 1: getting adopted. We're talking about number one, a hero dog
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Speaker 1: nicknamed Puppy and Camorean Taylor, a tot who goes missing
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Speaker 1: Saint Louis, Missouri. Straight back. Do you rate computer WDBA
25:52
Speaker 1: What happened, Well, ntcha? I remember a little girl, remember
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Speaker 1: the day that I figured off she could open the door,
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Speaker 1: And I think that's what happened. A little Camaria. You know,
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Speaker 1: he looks to be about three or for he's a
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Speaker 1: a young little boy, and apparently he had gotten out
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Speaker 1: of the house and nobody knew that he was gone,
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Speaker 1: and it was for quite a while. So he just
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Speaker 1: took a little trip down you know, your St. Louis
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Speaker 1: streets and it wasn't long before a lady with two
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Speaker 1: small dogs noticed that we had no shoes on. Guys,
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Speaker 1: you were just hearing our friends at Fox to Saint Louis.
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Speaker 1: But now take a listen to Blair Laday at Fox Tea.
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Speaker 1: This prescious toddler, Kamarion Taylor, is back in his dad's
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Speaker 1: arms after he spent the morning on the move. Residence
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Speaker 1: of the baby. Neighborhood spotted him early Thursday morning walking
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Speaker 1: in his pj's, seemingly protected by this large pit bull.
26:36
Speaker 1: She says, well, that dog goes with this baby. He's
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Speaker 1: out here with no shoes on. Do you know this baby?
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Speaker 1: It happened at around eight o'clock near McLaren and Broadway.
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Speaker 1: This neighbor, who wishes to remain anonymous, was walking her
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Speaker 1: own dogs. She switched gears to make a heroic move.
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Speaker 1: I knocked on the doors all the way up and
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Speaker 1: down the street. I went down Broadway, knocked on those doors.
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Speaker 1: No answers, no one that I who did answer. They
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Speaker 1: didn't recognize the child. Four hours she walked and knocked.
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Speaker 1: So let me understand exactly what happened, Ray Kiputo. The
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Speaker 1: little boy had wandered out in his pj's and he
27:11
Speaker 1: was being protected by a pit bull. Yeah, Nancy, the
27:14
Speaker 1: pit bull seemed to follow him. Now, this wasn't his dog.
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Speaker 1: It just seemed to be a dog with that instinct
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Speaker 1: that this was a small child in trouble. But the
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Speaker 1: little dog pretty much mirrored little Kumaria. Guys, take a
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Speaker 1: listen one more time to Blair La Day Fox too,
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Speaker 1: Taylor's father finally recognizing his son on a social media
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Speaker 1: post and sprinting into action. Soon the happy baby was home.
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Speaker 1: He looked well taken care of, you know, he was
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Speaker 1: very neat, very clean. He just didn't have the shoes on.
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Speaker 1: No word yet on how the baby boy got out
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Speaker 1: of his home. But this neighbor says there was no
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Speaker 1: way she could have turned a blind eye because it
27:50
Speaker 1: takes a village and children especially are innocent. A missing
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Speaker 1: boy found wandering the Saint Louis streets. And I've got
27:59
Speaker 1: to tell you I mentioned earlier that I had taken
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Speaker 1: the twins on an RV trip to see the Mount
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Speaker 1: Rushmore well, and we also went to Saint Louis to
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Speaker 1: see the arch en route and walking around in downtown
28:12
Speaker 1: Saint Louis is full of pitfalls. You know, It's amazing
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Speaker 1: to me to Chris Meyer's former chief of Police, John's Creek,
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Speaker 1: this pitbull dog was guarding the boy and it wasn't
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Speaker 1: his dog. Yeah, that's pretty amazing. And it made me
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Speaker 1: think as you were talking about that. At my house,
28:33
Speaker 1: when my son was little and learned to ride his bike,
28:36
Speaker 1: there was a neighbor dog that we used to play
28:37
Speaker 1: with all the time, and we had this long driveway.
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Speaker 1: He would ride his bike and there were these trees
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Speaker 1: at the end, and that's where we would make him
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Speaker 1: turn around because there was a busy road there and
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Speaker 1: this dog, when my son was on his bike, would
28:48
Speaker 1: run down to those trees and literally block him from
28:51
Speaker 1: going any further. He would have to turn around. So
28:54
Speaker 1: it was just an amazing thing that this wasn't even
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Speaker 1: our dog. So you got to think this is even
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Speaker 1: more this dog doesn't even know this little boy and
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Speaker 1: just sense that he was in trouble, that he was
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Speaker 1: in danger. Crime stories with Nancy Grace, Guys, we are
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Speaker 1: talking about brave and wonderful heroes, pet heroes. What's not
29:38
Speaker 1: to love? And this pet hero really stands out in
29:45
Speaker 1: my mind because the child he saved wasn't even his child. Reportedly,
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Speaker 1: a young boy reunited with his dad in Saint Louis
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Speaker 1: after a neighbor spots the taught wandering the streets of
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Speaker 1: Saint Louis outside and nothing but Pj's with a large
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Speaker 1: pit bull pit bulldog by his side, walking through the
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Speaker 1: streets in pj's and somehow wandering out of his dad's
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Speaker 1: home all on his own. Straight out to you, Wendy Patrick,
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Speaker 1: California prosecutor and author, what do you make of it? Okay,
30:24
Speaker 1: you'd like to know how he got out of the
30:25
Speaker 1: house the way he did without anybody seeing. You know,
30:29
Speaker 1: he's way too young to have just been curious and
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Speaker 1: wandered off into the wilderness. This is one of those
30:34
Speaker 1: cases where you have to keep eyes on and me. Nancy,
30:37
Speaker 1: you know that more than anything, you're very protective of
30:39
Speaker 1: the twins. Most parents are, so you'd probably want to
30:42
Speaker 1: know who was supposed to be watching this child. But
30:45
Speaker 1: thank God that an angel in the form of that
30:48
Speaker 1: pit bull basically probably since something was wrong and was
30:53
Speaker 1: just so protective instinctively over this child. Talk about a
30:56
Speaker 1: happy story and a happy ending. Now. That little boy
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Speaker 1: boy his life saved by a pit bull dog nicknamed Puppy,
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Speaker 1: and the neighbor woman who lives in the neighborhood says
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Speaker 1: she was quote shocked to see a pit bulldog seemingly
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Speaker 1: guarding the little boy until he is rescued. The pit
31:20
Speaker 1: bull did not know the boy, but they know each
31:24
Speaker 1: other now. But let's switch gears now to hero dog
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Speaker 1: named p d Listen. Hi, my name is Heidi and
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Speaker 1: my dad was missing at six thirty when I arrived home.
31:41
Speaker 1: He had left at four pm, so he should have
31:43
Speaker 1: been home two hours prior to when I got home,
31:47
Speaker 1: and I drove around for a few hours looking for him,
31:50
Speaker 1: and I finally reported him missing to the police department
31:55
Speaker 1: at ten pm and off duty sergeant was hunting and
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Speaker 1: he came across my dad's dog, Pete. You are hearing
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Speaker 1: the voice of Heidi rap Sarno. This is Fred's daughter
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Speaker 1: speaking to the New York Post straight out, Do you
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Speaker 1: write a peutero? What happened? Nancy? You know, we hear
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Speaker 1: a lot about missing kids, but it's not uncommon for
32:16
Speaker 1: elderly and Fred was. He was driving in a wooded
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Speaker 1: area and he got stuck, and from there it just
32:23
Speaker 1: things started to go downhill. Fred got lost and it
32:26
Speaker 1: was you know, hours and hours before people were searching
32:29
Speaker 1: for him. So it was a pretty scary situation. Now
32:31
Speaker 1: we are talking about a senior who goes missing. My mom,
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Speaker 1: who was just turned eighty nine years old, lives with us,
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Speaker 1: and I can only imagine, Well, actually, I've gone in
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Speaker 1: a room and she wasn't in there, and I looked
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Speaker 1: in her bathroom, I looked at her closet, I looked
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Speaker 1: all around the house, the laundry room, the kitchen, and
32:54
Speaker 1: then going back toward the other end of the house
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Speaker 1: into the twins room, trying to find her. And that's
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Speaker 1: a feeling like none other. It's like when there is
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Speaker 1: a missing child, explain doctor Angela. Nancy when anybody loses
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Speaker 1: a child, even for a brief second, everything that could
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Speaker 1: possibly happen to that child goes through your mind. Anything
33:17
Speaker 1: there's immediate, there's an immediate adrenaline, there's an immediate sense of,
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Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm never going to find this child again, because, Nancy,
33:27
Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is the child is missing,
33:29
Speaker 1: and you don't have a clue of where to start,
33:33
Speaker 1: and all you know is that child is gone. And
33:36
Speaker 1: that's what it feels like when a senior goes missing,
33:40
Speaker 1: not that they have the mind of a child, but
33:43
Speaker 1: out in the elements, and this guy, nearly eighty years old,
33:48
Speaker 1: out in the elements alone, they can't find him. So
33:53
Speaker 1: back to you, Ray Kiputo, how did he go missing?
33:56
Speaker 1: Red Woods? He was driving in a wooded area and
33:59
Speaker 1: he stuck and from there it just things started to
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Speaker 1: go downhill. Fred got lost and it was Pete. And
34:05
Speaker 1: I think Pete's aptly named after the Little Rascals because
34:08
Speaker 1: it looks just like that terrier in there. Well, Pete
34:10
Speaker 1: starts running along the trail and he was spotted by
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Speaker 1: an off duty police officer and Pete ended up leading
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Speaker 1: that off duty police officer to Fred. So Fred's got
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Speaker 1: his little little pup to thank for learning someone who
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Speaker 1: was whereabout? Take a Listen to Fred's daughter speaking to
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Speaker 1: our friend the New York Post. The off duty sergeant
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Speaker 1: noticed the dog. First he thought it was a coyote.
34:35
Speaker 1: Then he realized it was a dog because it was dark,
34:38
Speaker 1: and he went towards the dog and noticed that the
34:41
Speaker 1: leash was attached to her, And then he noticed tracks
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Speaker 1: in the ground and followed the dog, and she basically
34:49
Speaker 1: led him to where my father was. They found him
34:52
Speaker 1: in the middle of a remote area of the woods.
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Speaker 1: He is an outdoorsman, so it's that those kind of
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Speaker 1: roads are familiar to him. But at the same time
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Speaker 1: he was lost. This hero dog leads out and off
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Speaker 1: duty cop to his master. Now I want you to
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Speaker 1: take another Listen to our cut thirty seven Heidi Raps Sarno.
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Speaker 1: This is Fred's daughter speaking to our friends at the
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Speaker 1: New York Post. So Pete is She's been with my
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Speaker 1: dad for about ten years. She was a rescue and
35:26
Speaker 1: we think that she's a mix of Labrador and tip fall.
35:32
Speaker 1: We call her the General Giant. She's just a sweetheart
35:36
Speaker 1: and my dad nicknamed her Tiger because she chases all
35:39
Speaker 1: the animals away up in New York where he lives.
35:41
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about once again the dog being a
35:46
Speaker 1: mixed breed, basically a shelter dog. Straight back to Angie Wood,
35:50
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Dog Whispered Dog behaviorist, and you can find
35:53
Speaker 1: her at USK nine dot com way in what happened here? Well,
35:57
Speaker 1: you know her dog is a dog, is a dog,
35:59
Speaker 1: so that knows the instincts kick in. It doesn't really
36:02
Speaker 1: matter what the breeds, so instincts. I tell humans all
36:07
Speaker 1: the time, quit being such a darned person, like listen,
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Speaker 1: tune in. What does your gut tell you? Should you
36:14
Speaker 1: pay attention? And this is what dogs do every day.
36:18
Speaker 1: In this case, a seventy eight year old elder almost
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Speaker 1: seventy nine, a month or so away from being seventy nine,
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Speaker 1: goes missing. If it were not four his dog, rescue
36:32
Speaker 1: dog I mixed a breed named Pete, he would still
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Speaker 1: be missing today. You know, I want to go out
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Speaker 1: to Joe Scott Morgan. We talk about heroes all the time,
36:44
Speaker 1: but some of these heroes were rescued by people and
36:48
Speaker 1: then they turned around and returned the favor. You're absolutely
36:52
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, Nancy, because I've got to tell you
36:55
Speaker 1: some of some of the darkest days I've ever had
36:58
Speaker 1: have been have been. You know, I have to say
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Speaker 1: is suaged by the fact that I have rescue dogs,
37:05
Speaker 1: because I mean, I've been through dark times in my life,
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Speaker 1: working with the dead all of my life, having to,
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Speaker 1: you know, see these horrible things. But you know, every
37:15
Speaker 1: single time I come in, I come home, and I
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Speaker 1: come back from having been in these environments, my dogs
37:22
Speaker 1: are always there to comfort me. And that's why I'm
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Speaker 1: such a big supporter of rescuing dogs. I believe that
37:28
Speaker 1: the dogs rescue us as much as we rescue them.
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Speaker 1: We you know, me and my family, we support no
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Speaker 1: kill shelters. We go out and try to help with
37:38
Speaker 1: dogs all the time. We try to support people that
37:41
Speaker 1: are doing free vaccination moves, that sort of thing. So
37:45
Speaker 1: we strongly believe in animals, and animals can change family's life.
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Speaker 1: They've certainly changed ours. Keep this number handy, It's a
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Speaker 1: toll free number for the Humane Society. Eight six six
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