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  Speaker 1: right now. We got NFL football coming up on a
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  Speaker 1: Thursday night in the Delaware Valley and the story that
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  Speaker 1: everyone's been yapping about. I thought somebody had died. When
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  Speaker 1: I woke up, I was like, oh my god, was
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  Speaker 1: Ott Groggy? You ever do that? You grab your phone,
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  Speaker 1: you old groggy, and you get a lot of messages.
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  Speaker 1: I said, well, either I lost my job, someone died.
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  Speaker 1: Something bad happened, And I was like, looking around, it's
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  Speaker 1: not that bad. Yeah. Then I rolled over on the pillow.
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  Speaker 1: But the scandal, the scandal of the day in the NBA.
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  Speaker 1: If you have not seen this, maybe not the Clippers,
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  Speaker 1: the people's team and the richest man in all of sport,
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  Speaker 1: Steve Balmer. That's the guy that owns the team, although
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  Speaker 1: they don't call him owners because they're woke over there
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  Speaker 1: at the NBA. They call them governors, but everyone else
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  Speaker 1: calls them owners because they're it's ridiculous anyway. The Clippers
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  Speaker 1: and owner Steve Balmer have been accused of giving a
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  Speaker 1: star Kawhi Leonard, a nineteen nineties sopranos HBO style job,
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  Speaker 1: twenty eight million dollars for a no show job. Where
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  Speaker 1: do I sign up for that? My god? All of
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  Speaker 1: this said to be in an effort, a covert effort
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  Speaker 1: to circumvent the salary cap rules of the NBA. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Pablo Torre detailed the accusations on the podcast He's got
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  Speaker 1: this fledgling podcast, which has about you know, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know five people listening to it. But he claims he
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  Speaker 1: has a direct legal documentation. He's got a deep throat
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  Speaker 1: who used to work for this company, and he laid
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  Speaker 1: it all out, laid all of it out in an
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  Speaker 1: effort to get clicks and become famous and make a
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  Speaker 1: lot of money and all that stuff. So he says
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  Speaker 1: that Kawhi Leonard was paid seven million dollars a year,
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  Speaker 1: but a total twenty eight million through a company, a
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  Speaker 1: tree planning service. That's right, man, that's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: money to plant trees. The companies now bankrupt. Hard to believe,
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  Speaker 1: and he's accusing The podcast guy is accusing Balmer of
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  Speaker 1: paying paying Kawhi Leonard more than his current contract, which
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  Speaker 1: would go against the NBA rules. Now, this guy, Pablo Toy,
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  Speaker 1: never found evidence that Leonard marketed or endorsed the company
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  Speaker 1: that you've never heard of. Even more telling, he claimed
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  Speaker 1: they found a clause that stated that Kawhi Leonard would
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  Speaker 1: only be paid the money if he remained a member
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  Speaker 1: of the People's team. The Clippers now a former a
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  Speaker 1: former employee. Of course, the company's long around, so they're
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  Speaker 1: all former employees, but somebody used to work for the
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  Speaker 1: company claim that the agreement between the tree planting service
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  Speaker 1: in Leonard was done to circumvent the salary cap a
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  Speaker 1: real cloak and Dagri mission of the NBA has said
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  Speaker 1: they have opened up in investigation. The Keystone Cops are
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  Speaker 1: on it. Don't worry, They're good to go. Keystone Cops.
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  Speaker 1: It is named after an old old beer company and
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  Speaker 1: the Clippers. The Clippers have denied any wrongdoing in a
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  Speaker 1: letter that was vetted by an army of very wealthy
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  Speaker 1: people that passed through the bar and have become lawyers.
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  Speaker 1: So let us discuss the question how much trouble. How
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  Speaker 1: much trouble are the Clippers and owner Steve Balmer in
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  Speaker 1: with this situation now the Kawhi Leonard no show job report,
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  Speaker 1: how much trouble are they in? So I've got ruffles, butterball, turkey,
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  Speaker 1: this world. Enjoy, Enjoy, Enjoy. So a on the Malor
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  Speaker 1: scale of the trouble, the Malor scale of trouble, which
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  Speaker 1: is the measuring tool that we use to determine what
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  Speaker 1: is good and what is bad. So, on the Malar
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  Speaker 1: scale of trouble one to ten, with ten being real bad,
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  Speaker 1: this is a seven. I'm at a seven on the
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  Speaker 1: Malar scale of trouble. Not quite a sentence to the dungeon.
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  Speaker 1: You're not being sent to the dungeon. But we are
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  Speaker 1: talking about the reason. I'm at a seven. This is
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  Speaker 1: a full blown pr inferno, burn baby burn. The damage
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  Speaker 1: is done. The headline is out, and we know that
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  Speaker 1: the people are dumb and they only react to the headline.
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  Speaker 1: And that's it. The headline's out and you get into
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  Speaker 1: the mind, and that's what people go with. Right, people
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  Speaker 1: react to the headline. I do the same thing. People
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  Speaker 1: send me a story. How often do I not even
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  Speaker 1: click on the story? Somebody will send me It happens
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  Speaker 1: a lot. And there's been research done that most people
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  Speaker 1: don't even bother clicking on the story. So I did
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  Speaker 1: read these stories. But this is a bag of ruffles,
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  Speaker 1: is what this is. There was a visceral reaction to
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  Speaker 1: the oven baked ruffles, and it was baked right into
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  Speaker 1: the discourse. Here. This is a Wolf of Wall Street
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  Speaker 1: meets load management situation. You've got Steve Baumer playing the
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  Speaker 1: role of Jordan Belfort, except instead of tossing dwarfs at
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  Speaker 1: the bullseye, he is apparently tossing allegedly millions and millions
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  Speaker 1: at a guy who hasn't posted a single social media
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  Speaker 1: comment or ad for or even a picture with a
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  Speaker 1: tree for this company. No billboards, no commercials, no collab,
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  Speaker 1: none of that. Just a clause, a clause that says
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  Speaker 1: you get paid if you stay a clipper. That's not
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  Speaker 1: an endorsement deal. I actually have had, believe it or not.
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  Speaker 1: Some endorsement deals. That's normally how they don't go. That's
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  Speaker 1: a retention bonus with a big leaf attached to it. Now,
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  Speaker 1: even if Balmer didn't know the fine, the optics see
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  Speaker 1: the reason I'm going to seven. The optics are pretty brutal.
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  Speaker 1: You can't be the face of green innovation and end
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  Speaker 1: up looking like you used a bankrupt tree company to
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  Speaker 1: pay your superstar under the table. Now the Clippers are saying, hey,
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  Speaker 1: they're clean. Did you expect them to say you got us? Ah? Man, boy,
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  Speaker 1: We thought we could get away with it, but you
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  Speaker 1: know what, we're guilty on all charges. They're claiming that
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  Speaker 1: they didn't know that. They just wanted to help out
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  Speaker 1: some tree hugging company and do good things. And it's
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  Speaker 1: when good intentions come with a twenty eight million dollar
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  Speaker 1: writer's that's tied to your roster. You're not planting trees.
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  Speaker 1: You're planting red flags, is what you're doing at this point. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the other part of this is we turn the page. Here,
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  Speaker 1: page two. Former Mavericks owner and noted woke gasbag Mark
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  Speaker 1: Cuban has come to the defense the Brotherhood of Owners.
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  Speaker 1: So Mark Cuban has come to the defense of Steve
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  Speaker 1: Bamber pushing back. Push it back, now, push it back.
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  Speaker 1: Pushing back on these claims made by the fledgling podcaster
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  Speaker 1: Pablo Torre of salary camp manipulation. So Cuban said, quote
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  Speaker 1: Steve Balmer, isn't that dumb? He said, if he did
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  Speaker 1: try to feed Kawhi money knowing what was at stake
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  Speaker 1: for him personally and his team, do you think, Cuban said,
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  Speaker 1: do you think he meeting Balmer? Do you think that
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  Speaker 1: Balmer would have let that company go bankrupt knowing all
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  Speaker 1: creditors would be visible to the world. Now, Formerly of
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  Speaker 1: the Shark Tank, Mark Cuban argued that the scandal actually
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  Speaker 1: points to the Tree Company's fraud, not Steve Balmer doing
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  Speaker 1: any anything that wasn't kosher. He said, they got scammed.
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  Speaker 1: That's what this is, Mark Cuban saying they got scammed
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  Speaker 1: by this company along with many others. Cuban wrote on
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  Speaker 1: a long wordy social media post the crimes for which
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  Speaker 1: they pleaded guilty last week, scammers do scammy things. It's
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  Speaker 1: the quote right there that says the default assumption that
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  Speaker 1: Balmer was at fault is going to backfire, going to backfire,
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  Speaker 1: says Mark Cuban. All right, that's a good jumping off point.
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  Speaker 1: So thumbs up or thumbs down. Thumbs up or thumbs
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  Speaker 1: down on Mark Cuban's defense the Mavericks former owner who
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  Speaker 1: now has a bit part of the teams, like a
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  Speaker 1: cheerleader for the Mavericks, Mark Cuban's defense of Clippers owner
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  Speaker 1: Steve Bamber thumbs uper thumbs down. So, just on face value,
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  Speaker 1: Cuban tossed a haymaker of logic into what has become
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  Speaker 1: a tornado of speculation, just a swirling storm of speculation,
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  Speaker 1: and we're going to give him the big old thumbs up.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going thumbs up on this. Here's why. Let me
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  Speaker 1: make my picture. Cuban's defense was rather straightforward. Now, you
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  Speaker 1: say he's biased because he actually is part of the
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  Speaker 1: ownership fraternity, and that is true. But it's not just
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  Speaker 1: a character witness. It is a forensic takedown of the narrative.
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  Speaker 1: It makes a lot of sense here. Steve isn't that dumb,
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  Speaker 1: he wrote, And even if he is that dumb, he's
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  Speaker 1: got enough money where he can hire smart people that
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  Speaker 1: will not allow this to happen. It's not just some
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  Speaker 1: kind of billionaire bro code which do they have a
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  Speaker 1: billionaire bro code. I don't know. I'm not a billionaire.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you. So Steve Balmer would have to
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  Speaker 1: have the IQ in order for this to go the
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  Speaker 1: way it's going right now, the IQ of a butterball
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  Speaker 1: turkey to have this happen. A reminder that Steve Balmer
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  Speaker 1: makes per year one billion dollars that is just off
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  Speaker 1: Microsoft dividends. He doesn't have to do anything. He can
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  Speaker 1: sit there and pick buggers out of his nose for
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  Speaker 1: an entire year. He gets a billion dollars. He owns
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  Speaker 1: four percent still of Microsoft. He doesn't need to play
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  Speaker 1: salary cap twister with a shell company that just pled
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  Speaker 1: guilty to fraud. And he could have spent the money
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  Speaker 1: to keep the company going if it was a sham company.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't do that. He chose not to do that.
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  Speaker 1: If Balmer wanted to pay Kawhi, here's the other thing.
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  Speaker 1: If Balmer wanted to pay Kawhi Leonard under the table.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm certainly not going to sit here and say
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  Speaker 1: that that kind of stuff doesn't happen. It probably does
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  Speaker 1: happen all the time in all of professional sports. And
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  Speaker 1: there were rumors going back years ago where Robert Kraft
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  Speaker 1: was taking care of Tom Brady under the table. Whether
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  Speaker 1: that ever actually happened or not, the chatter was out
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  Speaker 1: that you know, you scratch my back, all scratch your back.
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  Speaker 1: But just staying with his story. So if Balmer wanted
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  Speaker 1: to take care of Kawhi Leonard under the table, he
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't need the bankrupt tree hugging company to do it.
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  Speaker 1: He could just venmo him from the dark wat you know,
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  Speaker 1: get some kind of burner account to do the crypto thing.
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  Speaker 1: Get a crypto wallet, name it load management, and there
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  Speaker 1: you go. Yeah. I do find it amusing if the
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  Speaker 1: story is actually true, and I'm skeptical that it's true
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  Speaker 1: the way it was initially reported, But if it is,
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  Speaker 1: that would mean Kawhi Leonard actually has two no show jobs,
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  Speaker 1: because I consider the job he has with the Clippers
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  Speaker 1: a no show job because when they didn't the most
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't show up. He rarely plays. So, man, you
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  Speaker 1: talk about cashing in the chips now the last word here,
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  Speaker 1: So what did you think of the media covers There
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  Speaker 1: was a Kawhi Leonard feeding frenzy like piranha with blood
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  Speaker 1: in the water there over the accusations of a no
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  Speaker 1: show job against Kawhi Leonard. So this was a full scale,
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  Speaker 1: like a metaphorical military operation claw down. We'll call it.
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  Speaker 1: Why because make no mistake, Kawhi's different and all the
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  Speaker 1: other NBA stars, the NBA media elites, the very top
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  Speaker 1: of the NBA media world are buddy buddy with these guys.
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  Speaker 1: They are right, and they they activated the same media
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  Speaker 1: elites in the NBA. They activated their grudge missiles and
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  Speaker 1: they locked on to Kawhi Leonard kind of like he
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  Speaker 1: was the last slice of free pizza in the press
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  Speaker 1: box dining room. And Kawhi Leonard is the silent basketball introvert,
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  Speaker 1: the man who treats the postgame interview like dental surgery.
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  Speaker 1: He would rather have a root canal. He's not in
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  Speaker 1: the banana boat brotherhood. He's not in that right. He's
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  Speaker 1: not trading memes with Lebron or doing a cheeseball podcast
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  Speaker 1: with Draymond Green. You think he's grabbing omelets with Michael
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  Speaker 1: Wilbon at the Ritz. No, you think he's tossing back
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  Speaker 1: vodka tonics with Steven A at the Four Seasons in
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  Speaker 1: Milwaukee talking about the culture of basketball. No, Kawhi is
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  Speaker 1: probably eating a protein are with the lights off in
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  Speaker 1: his hotel room somewhere, muttering gibberishes what he's doing here.
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  Speaker 1: Because of that, like the media has got their samurai
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  Speaker 1: swords out. They don't just want him criticized, they want
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  Speaker 1: him totally erased, which means that this is a coordinated
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  Speaker 1: airstrike on Kawhi doesn't curry favor. He's the last lone
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  Speaker 1: wolf for better or worse, and the media lap dogs
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  Speaker 1: don't like and it may not be one of the
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  Speaker 1: cool kids, but he doesn't seem to care too much.
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  Speaker 1: Although if there's truth in this story, then Kawhi will
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  Speaker 1: his contract will be voided. There'll be all kinds of
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  Speaker 1: gonna make your Babushka's favorite tomato bisk is what we're
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: gonna make. So number I said, number one, the NFL
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: is pulling a bait and switch on its signature show.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: And there is absolutely room for angst. There is absolutely
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: room for aanks. For over a decade, Scott Hansen has
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: been the pied piper. He had some competition with Andrews Scilleana,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: but he's the pied piper for football junkies. Right Sunday
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: sermon seven hours of commercial free football starts. Now, that line,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: for many was the holy scripture of the Pigskin Tabernac,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: but not anymore now they've ripped it away. Like the
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: iconic scene from the cartoon where Lucy yanked away the
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: football from Charlie Brown. But this is the sports version.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: What's gonna happen to this show? The Red Zone Show
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: is what happened to the office when Steve Carill left right.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Dunder Mifflin was never the same. The whole mission statement,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: as I understand it, the whole mission statement of this
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Red Zone Show was simple, no commercials, period, stop watch
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: football with no commercials. That was the secret sauce. The
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: old family recipe passed down from generations, and now the
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: NFL wants you to pay a premium price for commercials.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: They want you to pay so you can be the
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: product and get the commercial. So it's like going to
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: a steakhouse and this old family runs steakhouse. You order
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: the ribbi. You used to always get the ribbi. It
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: was a great ribby, loved it. So they still serve
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: the rabbi, but they changed it out. They say it's
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: ribi on the menu, but they're now giving you a
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: salisbury steak right out of a Hungry Man TV dinner box.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: But you wanted a ribbi. It says ribi on the menu.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: You're paying the ribbi price, but they just exchange that
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: for a salisbury steak right out of a TV dinner box. Now,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: page two, is there an expiration date on the madness?
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Is there an expiration date on the madness ending on
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: these these hostile sports TV takeovers like this? So it's
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: it's only going to get worse. As a distant relative
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: of Nostradamas and friend of Nostradinas, he lives in Seattle.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: He was at the Vegas Meet and greet. This is
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: the line from Tom Petty's The Last DJ Song Brought
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: to Life, and that line is the suits upstairs want
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: to see how much you'll pay for what you used
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: to get for free. Now there's some debate about why
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: this is happening. Now everyone's pointing fingers is that everyone
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: else ESPN's fingerprints are all over this. They're denying it. However,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: it does reek of corporate synergy. You might remember ESPN
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: is in business with the NFL. Now they're partners with
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the NFL. They agreed to a deal for NFL programming
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: with the NFL state propaganda arm. So they're in bed
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: with the NFL. And the theory I was starting to
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: I was texting someone about this, and the theory is
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: that ESPN's got this deal and they're pointing the finger
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: at the NFL, say, well, we're not in charge yet,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: it's the NFL, so they're having the NFL do this
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: so then they have plausible deniability when really they're this
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: is their plan all along, and everyone's denying it pointing
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: at the other person there, and that's how it's going.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: But just wait until they get their mids on inside
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: the NBA. That is going to be destroyed. Charles Barkley
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: will be replaced by an AI version of Charles Barkley
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: selling you garbage. It's a hostile takeover of the show show,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: and any show that's popular ends up getting bastardized and
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: turned into a Mickey Mouse operation. I'd say, well, if
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: people like this, let's ruin it. How can we screw
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: this show up? Okay, we'll figure it out, all right,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: that good idea. We'll do the one thing the show
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: says it's not about. We'll do it done. And someday,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: someday your kids will ask dad, what was commercial free
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: football like and you'll tell some story. Well, back in
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: the day, yeah, we used to want seven hours nothing
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: but highlights. And now I for years have always done
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: my own red zone. So I've been preparing for this.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I just flip around and I go, I've got my
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: phone on and I'm like, who's in the red zone.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I do my own thing. I'm engaged. I bounce around
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: and that's how I do things right. And so that's
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: the way it goes. But Scott Hansen should just be
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: honest here and the people over at the red zone.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: The new slogan should be seven hours of commercial filled
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: football starts right now. That's right. The NFL doesn't care.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: The NFL and all these people, they know that the
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: core audience is an addict. They know you're addicted. You
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: will do whatever it takes to get your hands on it,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: meaning beg, borrow and steel if you have to. And
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: they got you by the balls. They're the benevolent overlords
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: and you're going to take your hit. And that is
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: just the way it is. It is more of the
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: erosion of quality we've seen across the board. Standards standards
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: are broadcasting and it's part of it's the streaming thing,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: and just companies are cheap and that's how it goes.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: But everything has gone down in value while the price
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: has gone up. Right, nothing is sacred and look back
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: and they'll write about this and say, well, what was
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: the downfall of the red zone. This was once the
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: crown jewel, right, the crown jewel, and now it's been
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: tossed into the bargain bin. So what the heck? Hap
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: what are you doing? All right? Now? Final point? So
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Charles Barkley, of all people, the round mound of rebound
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: back when he played. Now he's the l gas bag.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: So Barkley entered the chat. He recently criticized the NBA
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: for its mega rights deal. It's an eleven year, seventy
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: seven billion dollar deal with ESPN, Amazon, NBC, and there
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: are also some games streamed exclusively on Prime Video and
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Peacock that are not available on the other avenues. Now, Barkley,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Charles Barkley said the league simply took the deal that
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: offered them the largest payday without thinking about the fan experience. Quote.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I think it's a big deal, Barkley said, because they
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: just took the money from all three networks for the
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: next eleven years and they don't give a blank about
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: the fans. Barkley said, close. Quote all right on this one,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: where are you at? On? Charles Barkley saying the NBA
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: does not care about the fans. They do not care
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: about about the fans. So Charles Barkley on this one
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: put him in the Ohio State Marching band, and he
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: because he dotted the I at the Ohio State Marching Band. There.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: The NBA obviously doesn't care about the fans, but they're
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: not alone. They're I think the NFL is really worried
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: about the fans. They just added commercials to the red zone.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: You think if they were looking after the fans, that's
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: what they would have done. No, of course not. Now
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: it's rather obvious that every business is going to take
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: a deal based on the most money. It's always about
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: the money. When they say it's not about the money,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: it is especially about the money. We know that anyone
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: has got any kind of street smarts or just has
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: lived their life. You know, it's always about the money,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: and it's not about whether or not the fan is
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: the consumer of the product is happy that they care
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: about turning the public into a herd of compliant sheep.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: And you just got to be a part of the
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: herd of sheep. And you know you'll complain. Some of
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: you'll complain, and that's fine. You'll you'll be upset about
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: miss layups or load management or two hundred dollars jerseys
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: stitch together with paper mache there and some sweatshop somewhere overseas.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: But the sheep will be obedient and you'll sign up
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: for one, two, three, four, five, six seven. How many
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: streaming services are there? So for seventy seven billion, and
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Barkley ripped the NBA, But the NBA will give its
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: customer base a monthly scavenger hunt. You will get to
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: be part of a scavenger hunt if you are a
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: law abiding citizen, to try to figure out where that
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: night's game, Like there's a nick game, but is it
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: on is it on NBC? Is it on Amazon? Maybe
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: it's on on ESPN. I don't know, third base Peacock
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: might be on Peacock. I have no idea. So it's
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: a scavenger hunt for all this. And so you get
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: the cable over here, you get the streaming over there,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: and then there's some kind of free trial that thing
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: of a jig. You got to click on that, but
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: then if you don't decline it after a couple of days,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: you get charged fifteen dollars after seven days. So you
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: got to make sure to unfollow that. But if you don't, again,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: if you don't unfollow it, they just automatically they ding
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: your credit card fifteen dollars and all that. So the
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: NBA has become a traveling circus filled with snake oil.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: You know, snake oil salesman, it's a carnival in sneakers.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Step right up right these Fngali effect in high tops.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Even though the regular season for that product has gone real,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: real low on the must see TV department, it's just
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: not the same. The players don't care, and the fans know.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: The players don't care, The coaches don't care. The fans
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: know the players and coaches don't care, and so it's
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: an issue. But they think they've hypnotized you and then hey,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: you'll at least watch the highlights, and then maybe you'll
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: watch some of the big games here and they'll drain
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: your wallet and they'll get you here, there and everywhere
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: with those monthly subscriptions. This dingya, little ding here, little
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: ding there, and ding ding ding ding ding ding ding
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: ding ding. Now. The great thing about Charles Barkley, Charles
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Barkley can afford to bark arf arf. He's like Andrea's
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: dog willis he can afford to bark And the reason
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Barkley can afford to bark is he is at the
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: very top of the food chain. He is. He's had
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: so much money, he's got so much power he can
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: mf the NBA and on live TV or radio and
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: go home and get his ass kissed both cheeks by
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: TV executives. It's just the way it is now. If
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: some low level sideline reporter for the NBA said the
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: NBA doesn't care about fans, they don't care about that
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: particular per would be sent to sit Berrier, all right.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: And so the NBA has made Fendom a toll road.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: It's a toll road, and you better have paid your
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: bill otherwise you're gonna get a ticket. And so Charles
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Barker listening, he just points out the obvious. They decided
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: the road can be paved with your money, money, money, money.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: And if you don't like it, if you have a problem, right,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: if you have a problem, there's a turnpike right over there.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: It's called indifference, and then it intersects with apathy. And
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: if enough people go down that turnpike and indifference and apathy,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: then things will change. They play the numbers game. There's
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: some manipulation going on, as we've talked about here with
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: the micro blogging world, and so you've got what is real,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: what is not real, what is real? Engagement was not
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: real engagement, what is legit? What is not legit? And
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: it's a lot of fusing around with numbers and some
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: fuzzy math over here. There's a lot of that going on.
• 32:00
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• 32:02
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• 32:06
  Speaker 1: It's Mallard. How about that to the third degree.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: This is one big Ben gets grilled.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Kobolo.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: The Ravens and the Bills have developed a bit of
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: a rivalry, as Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson have squared
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: off four times in the regular season and twice in
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: the playoffs. They'll face each other again Sunday night. Two
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: quarterbacks were in the same draft class, with Allen going
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: eleventh and Jackson going thirty second. If you were to
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: redo the twenty eighteen draft bend, would you still take
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: Alan before Jackson? Uh?
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Well, obviously not. Neither one's won a Super Bowl, neither one.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, Alan's been his numbers are good in the playoffs,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: but they found ways to choke the Bills. And Lamar
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Jackson is one of the great regular season players in
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: NFL history. So yeah, I was wrong about both those guys.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: But the Patriots had a chance. I remember I was
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: doing a draft show that night. I had a chance
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: to draft Lamar Jackson, and they obviously f that up.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: But Lamar clearly is you know, he's the better regular
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: season player than Josh Allen.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: Next, Kevin Cash of the Tampa Bay Rays is the
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: longest tenured manager in Major League Baseball, having been at
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: the Helm since twenty fourteen. However, Tampa may be on
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: its way to missing the playoffs for the third season
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: in a row. Ben, do you think Cash is safe
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: in Tampa?
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Yes, they play in a minor league ballpark. They don't
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: even sell it out. It's a joke franchise. It's a
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Franken signed franchise. I know they changed ownership, so you say, well,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: they're gonna get a new you know they're gonna get
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: some more money and they owner's gonna watch back. I
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: say he's safe until they find a permanent solution to
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: that ballpark where they've got to build something next.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: Clemson coach Dabo Sweeney came to the defense of Texas
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: quarterback Arch Manning this week, saying, quote, He's gonna be
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: a freaking superstar, and people that don't believe that, they're
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: just stupid. But are people being too harsh on Manning
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: or is he being given unrealistic expectations?
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Well, my first thought is a lot of people think
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Dabo's stupid. He's been stupid for a couple of years
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: at Clemson. What happened to the Clemson Tiger football program?
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: It used to be for a couple of years they
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: were one of the tops in football. But no, Arch
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Manning deserves all the criticism. It's part of the gig.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: That's how it works. How do we do you pass?
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• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Honey Wait.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Ask bad Twitter said, is.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Your questions on Twitter now?
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: And it is the reading of the questions. Ask man
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: your questions are answers? Well, our ask to the hour
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: and let's get over to be true blot for the
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: reading of the questions.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: All right, we're gonna start off with a question from
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: Cowboy Killer.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Hi cow he's working the day shift. Hi cowboy Killer.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: He wants to know. Did you ever sneak out as
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: a teenager?
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: You know that was pretty good? Yeah, there were times.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I meant a couple of times. I didn't do it
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: all the time. My older brother did a lot more
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: than I did sneaking out of the house. I didn't
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: really have too many friends, so I didn't have anywhere
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: to go, so not too often. What about you, Lorena.
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, times I had older brothers who had friends who
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: had crushes on so you know, we were sneaking out.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: All the time.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Uh, living life in a small town in Oregon. What
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: about you Cool?
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: Yes, I would go into my backyard and hop the
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: wall in the backyard because I was too nervous that
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: the front door would be too loud.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Wow, you're all you're a coke and dagger type. That's right,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Jewish and I had Yeah, I'm back when I'm old,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I guess. But when I grew up, my mom would
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: just like get out of the house and just come
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: back when the sun goes down, so I was like sunset,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: I had to get back in the house. That was it.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: But you know, at night, not too much. There wasn't
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: like going on in the town I grew up in.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: Next all right, Ferg Dog would like to know, high
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: Ferg Dog, are you a fast or slow eater?
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Well, I am a slow eater compared to my but
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I consider myself a fast eater, So I guess it
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: depends what the company you're in the room with is.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think I'm a fast eat I think I'm
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: kind of the middle of the road. I'm not slow.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not fast. I like to enjoy the food, so
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: somewhere in the middle of My wife is a fast eater, though,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: and she'll get upset that she says I eat too slow.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: But I don't think i'm eating slow.
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: What about you, Lorena, Yeah, I'm a I'm one of
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: the slowest eaters I know.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're more of a grazier, right, Nibbler, You're a nibbler.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Roger Goodell's a nibbler. You're a nibbler too, What about you? Hello?
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: What about you? Koop?
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: I am a fast eater for sure, probably too fast.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: He's like a two byte person.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: It's gone, bites, that's it.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's done. It's gone.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, leave that joke aside. What is next year? To ask?
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Ben?
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Your questions are answers for the rest of the hour. Amazing.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: Bobby in Florida would like body, since it's back to
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: school season. Did you take the bus, drive or walk
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: to high school? Uh?
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah? So I uh I when high school. I took
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: the bus in elementary school. By the time I got
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: to high school, I my mom would drop me off
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: and then I started driving, So I guess you know,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: sometimes I would walk, but mostly mostly got dropped off
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: or drove myself. What about you, Loraina?
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, my dad didn't like driving us to school and
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: we only lived fifteen minutes from the school. So rain
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: or shine, your girl was walking. There was one day
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: I had my hair super cute styled and it started
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: downpouring rain on the walk in. I got like I
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: got straight out of the shower. It did by the
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: time you get to school, you, I sure do love Oregon.
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: Miss those rainy days.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't have those in La. What about you,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Cooper Loop, My.
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  Speaker 4: Mom dropped me off until senior year when I could drive. Myself.
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  Speaker 4: You pampered child.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he was the breadwinner in the family. All right,
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  Speaker 1: what is next to hear, coop? What do we have here?
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  Speaker 4: Donkey sausage fight Donkey for some reason would like to
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  Speaker 4: know how much do you recycle?
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  Speaker 1: Well, my wife loves recycling. I tell her that a
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  Speaker 1: lot of recycling is a scam and she does gets
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  Speaker 1: upset when I bring that up. So we have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of recycling. She does most of it, but I
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  Speaker 1: put it in the right bin. So there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of recycling. What about you, Larna, Yeah, I think.
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  Speaker 5: Our trash people do that. That's what my cousin says.
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  Speaker 5: Everything goes in one and then they sort of Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 1: Think where you live. I used to live out here
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  Speaker 1: where you live now, So yeah, I think they do that.
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  Speaker 4: What about you, Coop, Yeah, we recycle and there's a
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  Speaker 4: lot because we have bottled water and then also my
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  Speaker 4: diet doctor Pepper's so yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they've done research that a lot of the stuff
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  Speaker 1: that you send to recycled never actually gets turned into
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  Speaker 1: like recycling.
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  Speaker 4: That's true. And in fact, you can look on out yes,
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  Speaker 4: yeah
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  Speaker 1: H you can look online cooping right into a brick
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  Speaker 1: wall