Latest / Chef's PSA Podcast / The Importance of Seizing Opportunities Ep. 99
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- 0:00Hello Chefs, This is Chefs PSA Podcast.
- 0:02I'm your host, Andre Natera. On today's episode, we're going
- 0:05to talk about missed opportunities.
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- 3:34Today's podcast missed opportunities, taking advantage
- 3:39of opportunities as chefs and as cooks.
- 3:43We're presented with opportunities all the time for
- 3:45new jobs, to attend events, to hire people, to do something
- 3:49really special in our career. And as cliche as it sounds, you
- 3:53miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
- 3:55I don't know if Gretzky said that or Michael Jordan said
- 3:58that, but that's definitely, definitely a sports quote and
- 4:00I'm going to share a story with you.
- 4:02There was a hotel in Vancouver. It was the Fairmont HH van, as
- 4:06it's known, in Vancouver, Canada.
- 4:08And they were without a chef, and this had to have been around
- 4:112010 or 2011. And they sent me up to be the
- 4:15interim executive chef at this hotel in Vancouver.
- 4:19And I got to tell you, I fell in love with that hotel.
- 4:22It was old. It was historic.
- 4:23The kitchens were massive. You know it was.
- 4:26It had a a basement where they had the Garde Manger kitchen,
- 4:29old school, Garde Manger kitchen, old school pastry
- 4:31kitchen Downstairs, upstairs you had multiple kitchens, including
- 4:34a restaurant kitchen, a banqueting kitchen, and here I
- 4:37was sent up to be the interim chef while they were looking for
- 4:40a chef. When I went up there, I went up
- 4:43there really wanting the job and I went up there with the idea of
- 4:47if I prove myself that I'm the man for the job, they will offer
- 4:51me the job. So after some time being there,
- 4:54it was time to go home. They hired a chef, They're
- 4:57bringing them down and I was going to go back home.
- 5:00So the general manager of that hotel takes us out to dinner and
- 5:04he's sitting across from me and he says I have to ask you one
- 5:07question. Why didn't you apply for the
- 5:09job? We would have loved to have had
- 5:11you as our executive chef. And my heart sang because in my
- 5:15mind, I was thinking, I demonstrated that I was the
- 5:19person for the job. I and I said that to them.
- 5:21I said I wanted the job. I thought you all would offer it
- 5:24to me. And he said to me, we didn't
- 5:26offer it to you because you didn't apply.
- 5:28We thought you didn't want it. So the fact that I sat there
- 5:31quietly trying to demonstrate that I was the person for the
- 5:33job prevented me from getting the job because I never spoke up
- 5:37and said I wanted it. To this day, that one haunts me
- 5:40a little bit because I think Vancouver is such a cool city
- 5:43and at that time I really wanted to be the chef of that hotel.
- 5:47I thought it was a beautiful hotel, old historic smack dab
- 5:51downtown Vancouver. If you know that hotel, you know
- 5:53what I'm talking about. It would have been a fun job at
- 5:56the time. They were going to renovate the
- 5:57restaurant and I missed it because I never spoke up and
- 6:00said I wanted it. Sometimes you're presented with
- 6:03opportunities and I can tell you as a hiring chef, sometimes
- 6:06you're looking for the next sous chef or the next exec sue or
- 6:09whatever the case may be someone that you're going to promote.
- 6:12And a lot of times that person is in your kitchen and you may
- 6:16be that person, but sometimes you don't promote those people
- 6:19because they've never expressed interest in getting promoted.
- 6:22You just think they're content as to where they are AT.
- 6:26And maybe in their own mind, they think they're not ready.
- 6:29And so you don't approach them because you think they're not
- 6:31ready and they're not expressing interest.
- 6:33So you're going to pass it on to someone else from outside the
- 6:35organization, and you bring in an outsider who maybe was a bad
- 6:38fit. And you turn over two or three
- 6:40sous chefs when the right person was in your kitchen the whole
- 6:43time. But they never expressed
- 6:45interest because they were hoping that you would tap them
- 6:48on the shoulder and say you're it.
- 6:50I can tell you as an executive chef, you got a lot on your
- 6:52plate. You're thinking about a lot of
- 6:53things and you don't know what's in everyone's mind.
- 6:56And you have to assume that the people that want to move up are
- 6:59letting it be known to everyone that they want to move up.
- 7:01If you're in this position and you want to move into sous chef,
- 7:05one of the best things that you could do is tell people that you
- 7:08are interested in moving up. Because if you're keeping that
- 7:11to yourself and hoping and wishing that you're going to get
- 7:14discovered, it doesn't work that way.
- 7:16You have to create your own luck.
- 7:18You have to seize opportunity when it presents itself.
- 7:20Those people in garage bands that are playing in their garage
- 7:24hoping that an A&R is going to drive by someone from a record
- 7:28label and they're going to say, Oh my God, do you hear that
- 7:30music coming from that garage? Let's go sign them.
- 7:32It doesn't work that way. I had a guy that was extremely
- 7:36talented, used to work with me. He was one of the best cooks in
- 7:38the kitchen, super switched on with food, and the only thing he
- 7:42wanted to do was work under Gordon Ramsay.
- 7:44And this was, I don't know, about 2007.
- 7:47And he would talk about Gordon Ramsay.
- 7:49He would watch all those shows. He wanted nothing more than to
- 7:52work under Gordon Ramsay. And he was a good, he was a very
- 7:55good chef. I would always tell him, why
- 7:58don't you just go try out? Why don't you just go apply for
- 8:00his restaurants in Vegas or wherever he had restaurants at
- 8:02the time and just try to go work in one of his kitchens.
- 8:05He also, Oh no, I'm not good enough.
- 8:06I'm not good enough. Anyway, that guy, that super
- 8:10talented cook, is still a super talented cook, never moved up
- 8:14because he always had this idea in his mind that he wasn't good
- 8:18enough for the next position. I look back at that time because
- 8:21I knew he was. I knew that he was one of the
- 8:24best cooks in the kitchen and that he had it.
- 8:26But what he lacked was confidence and he didn't take
- 8:28advantage of opportunities and he was unwilling to change the
- 8:31circumstances. People underestimate how many of
- 8:34their problems that they're facing right now can be solved
- 8:37by taking action to solve them. Unfortunately, we sometimes live
- 8:41in this idea of complaining about our problems or doing
- 8:45nothing about our problems and just sitting back that they will
- 8:48fix themselves. Problems usually don't get fixed
- 8:50on their own. One of the most important things
- 8:53that you need to do as a chef, as a cook, as a culinarian, is
- 8:56to create action towards the desired result that you want
- 9:00sitting around waiting that you're going to get discovered.
- 9:03That a celebrity chef is going to walk into the kitchen and tap
- 9:06you on the shoulder and say come work for me is very unlikely
- 9:09that that's going to happen. As that old expression goes, the
- 9:13harder I work, the luckier I get.
- 9:15Those limiting beliefs are usually self-imposed and what
- 9:20I've noticed in my career, the biggest difference between the
- 9:22people that move up quick in their career as a chef or
- 9:26whatever the case may be, is usually the ones that are
- 9:29confident enough. It's almost, it's almost dumb
- 9:31confidence sometimes because they're not good yet, but they
- 9:34think they are, and they're willing to try, and they're
- 9:36willing to go apply at the place that they want to go work.
- 9:38A lot of people want to be great chefs, but they're afraid to go
- 9:41work in great kitchens because they don't want to be second
- 9:43best. If you want to be the next Renee
- 9:45Rzeppi, you can't be afraid to work in Noma.
- 9:48You have to be willing to take the risk.
- 9:50Early on in my career, I was fortunate that I had mentors
- 9:54that saw good things in me tap me on the shoulder and move me
- 9:57up. But a lot of people aren't
- 9:59fortunate like that. A lot of people are too afraid
- 10:01to ask for help or too afraid to apply for the job that they
- 10:04want. I know a lot of chefs.
- 10:06I could think of someone right now that is trying to get a job,
- 10:10but they haven't even applied for it.
- 10:12There's someone out there listening to this podcast right
- 10:14now that is upset that they're not getting promoted, but
- 10:18they're also not applying for the job.
- 10:20Life doesn't work that way. If the door is going to be open,
- 10:23you have to make the effort to walk through it.
- 10:25As my career was growing as a chef and I was going from one
- 10:28chef job to the next chef job, there was a point where I hit a
- 10:31little bit of a wall and I didn't feel like I was growing
- 10:34fast enough in my career. So I had applied at this job in
- 10:37Washington, DC And I'll never forget this interview because at
- 10:41this point in time in my career, I thought of myself as very
- 10:44humble and I would. I wanted to be very respectful
- 10:47of all the chefs in the community.
- 10:49And as I was interviewing at this job, they asked me, do you
- 10:54think you're the best? It's an interesting question
- 10:57because in my mind, did I think I was the best?
- 10:59Maybe sometimes I did, other times I didn't.
- 11:02I thought in my mind to have the potential to be the best.
- 11:05But if I had to sit there and honestly say am I the best?
- 11:07No, of course not. There's always someone better
- 11:09than you. That's the reality of the
- 11:10situation. When they asked me this
- 11:12question, if I thought I was the best, I said no, I don't think
- 11:15I'm the best. I think I have a lot to learn.
- 11:17I think I'm still growing in my career and I gave this humble
- 11:21answer because I didn't want to come across as cocky or
- 11:23arrogant. Afterwards, the person that was
- 11:26interviewing me came up to me and said why didn't you say
- 11:29you're the best, we only hire the best.
- 11:32And if you're not the best, we don't want to hire you.
- 11:35And I responded back saying, I really respect your organization
- 11:39and the chefs that have come through here.
- 11:41There's a lot of really great chefs in the city.
- 11:43And I feel like it would be insulting for me to sit here and
- 11:45say I'm the best, knowing that there's some amazing chefs out
- 11:48there in the world that I admire.
- 11:50Their response to me was, we respect your humility, but we
- 11:53only hire the best. It was an opportunity that was
- 11:56right there for my taking. But my my humility almost
- 11:59prevented me from getting the job.
- 12:01And when I think about that moment, and I think about so
- 12:03many moments where people go in with this humility or this
- 12:06modesty, when it comes to your career, you're in the driver's
- 12:10seat. You're player one.
- 12:12No one's coming to save you. You have to be the one making
- 12:14the tough decisions, taking action, going out and applying
- 12:17for the job that you want, recognizing the opportunities.
- 12:22When they open the doors, say yes.
- 12:24One of my mentors says to me, you always say yes, but you say
- 12:27yes, but it gives you an out. So yes, but we need to do this.
- 12:31So you could say yes, but but say yes to these opportunities.
- 12:34When they get presented to you, doors are going to open and you
- 12:37have no idea where that door is going to lead to.
- 12:40Don't let your fear of rejection prevent you from succeeding.
- 12:45Don't sit there and wait for someone to come discover you.
- 12:48Go out there and make your presence known.
- 12:50You can use this podcast as an example.
- 12:53I had a previous podcast called Run the Pass and I wanted to
- 12:57start this podcast, Chef's PSA. I didn't know anything about
- 12:59podcasting, and I could have sat there and waited for all the
- 13:02right circumstances for me to get good at editing and get all
- 13:06the equipment that I needed and for the situation to be just
- 13:10perfect before I started the podcast.
- 13:12But in my mind, I'm like, screw it, let's just go and we'll
- 13:14figure it out as we go. If you could watch some of my
- 13:17early podcast, the editing's really bad, the audio's not so
- 13:19great. Maybe there wasn't even porno
- 13:21music back then, but it was the idea that I needed to take
- 13:25action because I know taking no action would never get me to
- 13:27where I am now. The only way you're going to
- 13:29learn how to do something is by doing it.
- 13:31Action leads to result. Now I'll leave you all with one
- 13:35last thing. One of the things that I used to
- 13:37tell myself whenever I was afraid to do something, and this
- 13:41has never steered me wrong, is if I was afraid to do something
- 13:45for whatever reason, I would always tell myself on the other
- 13:48side of fear is greatness, and that would push me to do it.
- 13:52I didn't need motivation. I often get the question of
- 13:54like, how do you get motivation? It's like I'm not motivated to
- 13:56do some of the stuff. I do it because I know that
- 13:59simply by doing is going to get me closer to my goals.
- 14:03On the other side of fear is greatness.
- 14:04That's my internal monologue. Maybe you could adopt that to
- 14:08your internal monologue as well. Don't be afraid.
- 14:12Create opportunities. And I promise you, on the other
- 14:15side of fear is greatness. Anyway, you know what to do.
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