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  It's great to have back on the show associate head coach for
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  the Boston Terriers,
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  SPEAKER_00: Coach Brianna Finch.
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  SPEAKER_00: Coach, thanks so much for coming on.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for having me back.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm excited.
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  SPEAKER_00: Really excited about this.
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  SPEAKER_00: The last time Coach Finch was on,
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  SPEAKER_00: we talked about decision-based training,
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  SPEAKER_00: and I actually wanted to revisit the topic again,
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  SPEAKER_00: except this time we have film.
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  And if they only knew what it took for us to get to this point,
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  but we're all ready now.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want to ask just one quick question before we get into this.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've seen you post a variety of film from time to time online,
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  SPEAKER_00: and it looks like there are times when you just have one player.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes you have multiple players.
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  SPEAKER_00: When you're thinking about the decision-based training,
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  SPEAKER_00: that aspect of it,
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  SPEAKER_00: what stays the same and then what differs differently?
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  And I'm assuming you have to get a little bit creative maybe
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  when you have just one
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  SPEAKER_00: player there versus multiple players.
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  SPEAKER_00: But how do those two things differ?
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  Or should they just be the same for a coach just kind of
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  putting together a workout
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  SPEAKER_00: for the number of players,
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  SPEAKER_00: big or small,
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  SPEAKER_00: that they have?
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  SPEAKER_01: It is challenging based on the number of players.
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  SPEAKER_01: Ideally,
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  SPEAKER_01: we try to have two to three,
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  SPEAKER_01: four players in a workout so that we can either do one-on-one,
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  SPEAKER_01: two-on-two,
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  SPEAKER_01: ideally three-on-three.
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  SPEAKER_01: So there's shots.
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  shot past decision making but there are some sessions where i
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  only have one so then
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  you have to be a little bit more creative and what you're
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  you're trying to
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  accomplish with that obviously it eliminates a little bit of
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  the decision making
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  piece to some extent and i'm not as young as i used to be so i
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  can't i can't play
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  SPEAKER_01: defense all that great or play one-on-one
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  SPEAKER_01: But the end goal is,
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  SPEAKER_01: I think,
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  just understanding what you are trying to accomplish and
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  knowing what decision
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  SPEAKER_01: making piece you want to get out of that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Are you just trying,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: you'll see in some of the videos when I start with the beginning,
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  SPEAKER_01: almost a shooting drill to some extent.
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  And the decision making piece is really for the shooter to
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  understand and learn how
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  SPEAKER_01: much time they need to get their shot off.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then we build out from there.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, for that piece, it's just a very simple,
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  Simple decision,
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  do I have enough time and space to get my shot off or do I not?
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  SPEAKER_01: And then we add the making the one more pass.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then we add from there, playing off that closeout.
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  So I think that kind of becomes understanding what you're
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  trying to accomplish and
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  SPEAKER_01: working backward in a way.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's kind of what I do with everything.
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  SPEAKER_01: But just again,
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  SPEAKER_01: at the end of the day,
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  what do we want to get out of the drill and how do we structure
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  the drill to
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  SPEAKER_01: accomplish that?
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  SPEAKER_01: So again,
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  SPEAKER_01: similarly with the three on three,
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  SPEAKER_01: when you do,
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  you are able to actually have multiple decision making skills
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  that become part of
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  SPEAKER_01: the drill.
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  what are the constraints you know we then we use the
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  constraints to decide what we
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  want to get what we're trying to accomplish what we're trying
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  to emphasize you know
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  how we want the players to try to work toward our end goal
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  whether that's spacing
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  whether that's time constraints making quicker choices you know
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  whether that's
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  playing out of a certain action things like that i think become
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  what we're what
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  SPEAKER_01: we're working toward
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  SPEAKER_00: So let me go ahead and just jump right into it,
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  because that sounds like the perfect transition to go ahead and
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  showing some of
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  SPEAKER_00: this film,
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  SPEAKER_00: what it is.
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  Talk about any of the buzzwords,
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  constraints,
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  anything that you just mentioned with that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, I'll just let you go with it.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is a very simple decision making drill that we do.
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  SPEAKER_01: Basically, it's the shot.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do I have the shot or do I make the pass for the one more?
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  SPEAKER_01: There's one defensive player.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can see we start out of a hostage,
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  SPEAKER_01: just a little bit of pressure,
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  SPEAKER_01: just so that it's a little bit of a live dribble,
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  SPEAKER_01: but somewhat similar.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like I said, I do not play very good defense.
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  And then the defender on the baseline will start with basically
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  he's in like a help
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  SPEAKER_01: position or a drop position.
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  And then there's two players,
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  one in the corner,
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  one in the 45 or window wing area.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then the ball handler can pass to either player.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then the defensive player will close out to that player.
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  SPEAKER_01: And like I said,
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  SPEAKER_01: at that point,
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  SPEAKER_01: it becomes,
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  does the person receiving the pass have enough time for the
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  shot or are they making
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  SPEAKER_01: the one more?
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  SPEAKER_01: So she didn't have.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that becomes a shot.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that's all basically at all.
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  SPEAKER_01: For me, this is almost essentially a shooting drill in some capacity.
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  But there is a small decision making piece,
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  one from the ball handler reading.
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  SPEAKER_01: One for the ball handler reading where the defender is.
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  Do they have the angle to make the pass to the corner or do
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  they need to make the
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  SPEAKER_01: pass to the wing or the window area?
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  SPEAKER_01: And then on that catch,
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  SPEAKER_01: the offensive players deciding,
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  do I have enough time to get my shot off or do I need to make
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  the one more?
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  SPEAKER_01: Again, very, very basic.
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  SPEAKER_01: But again,
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  it's somewhat relational to a game and that decision making
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  obviously with a big
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  SPEAKER_01: advantage.
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  And we're just we're just training,
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  you know,
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  the shot selection or the shot decision.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then from there, we build it out to having two defenders.
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  SPEAKER_01: So now there's a little bit more freedom and flexibility.
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  SPEAKER_01: Same thing here.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can see.
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  the ball handler still has the choice to make the pass to the
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  drift or the corner
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  SPEAKER_01: or to the window.
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  And then from there,
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  the defense scrambles,
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  you can now play off the closeout.
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  SPEAKER_01: So if we make the,
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  SPEAKER_01: what you still have the shot drive decision or the shot,
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  SPEAKER_01: one more decision,
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  SPEAKER_01: and then off that one more,
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  SPEAKER_01: or even off the initial catch,
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  they also now have the opportunity to play off that and attack
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  the basket.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're just, again, adding just a little bit, another layer of offense.
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  SPEAKER_01: If we,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: have enough hands and enough people helping,
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  SPEAKER_01: we'll add,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  a shot clock and trying to do this within six to eight seconds
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  at the most.
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  SPEAKER_01: The other thing we really try to emphasize,
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  especially in these drills where there's obviously a big
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  offensive advantage is the
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  SPEAKER_01: accuracy of our passes.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can see like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: We talk a lot about one.
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  SPEAKER_01: We don't want to shoot off a bad pass.
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  SPEAKER_01: So if it's a bad pass and we have to reach for it,
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  SPEAKER_01: lunge for it,
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  SPEAKER_01: that shot no longer becomes a great shot for us.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we want to make sure that we're being really accurate with that and
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  SPEAKER_01: understanding what's a great pass.
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  And are we leading our shooter into a position where they can
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  catch and shoot?
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  SPEAKER_01: And then just being really intentional with that piece.
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  Is there anything more that you do to teach anything like you
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  just gave to teach,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: great shot,
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  SPEAKER_00: good shot,
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  SPEAKER_00: what we don't want to shoot off instead,
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  SPEAKER_00: drive off that kind of thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: We do.
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  SPEAKER_01: We will also incorporate like extra points within the drill.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we also stat like we, or we track like on these as we consider them,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: shooting drills in some capacity or big offensive advantage drills,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: will track points.
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  SPEAKER_01: So twos and threes.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then basically we give when we score, we get twos and threes.
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  And then when we don't make the basket,
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  we give the guest or the opponent the two or three.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it's almost like we're playing against that.
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  and then we'll give an extra point for a really accurate pass
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  and then we you know
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  we talk about it we just we kind of we tend to debrief after
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  most drills or
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  sessions and talk about what was good about that session what
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  we need to improve on
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  our packet passing accuracy is definitely something we're
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  always discussing and
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  SPEAKER_01: focusing on and that and they probably hear it more than they want to and
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  SPEAKER_01: But I think it's just,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: it's just understand where,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: what it leads to and what we're trying to accomplish.
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  SPEAKER_01: If they understand that we didn't get the shooter,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: our best shooter has two years ago,
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  SPEAKER_01: she led the nation in three point field goal percentage.
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  SPEAKER_01: Last year, she shot 40% from three on a high volume.
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  like she only has a half second to get her shot off she only
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  has a half second of
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  space before the defense is going to send two people at her so
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  if it's not a great
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  pass you know we haven't given her we've lost a really good
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  shot opportunity for us
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  so just making sure the players understand that and you know
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  how they set their
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  teammates up to be successful and i will say we're very
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  fortunate we have a pretty
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  unselfish team and they like to share the ball and i like to
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  think i mean what we
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  SPEAKER_01: emphasize is a big part of that too so
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  SPEAKER_00: I know everybody knows it,
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  SPEAKER_00: knows that it's important as,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: throwing strikes or whatever way you refer to it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Till we,
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  SPEAKER_00: about a year and a half ago,
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  SPEAKER_00: started making it something that we talked about,
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  SPEAKER_00: like every drill.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's when it finally improved and our shooting percentage improved.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just,
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  I know you need to be able to shoot off of bad passes because
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  it doesn't always
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  SPEAKER_00: happen like that in a game.
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  But I also do think that your number of bad passes decreases if
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  you do make it a
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  consistent point of emphasis and you do see everybody's
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  percentage start to
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  SPEAKER_00: increase when you throw strikes.
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  no absolutely and and and again same with us our first year we
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  didn't really talk
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  about it as much the passing like we talked about passing and
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  turnovers and things
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  like that but from a shot selection standpoint we didn't
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  necessarily emphasize it
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  and then into year two and last year especially we really
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  focused on adding again a
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  few things like i said the extra point for passing and passing
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  accuracy and
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  just making sure that they understood how important that piece
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  is to our success
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  and the success of the you know percentage that we shoot which
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  knock on wood has
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  been pretty pretty high here yeah it kind of leads into the
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  same drill but just
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  adding a little bit of a so it's a little bit harder to see but
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  on the left side of
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  SPEAKER_01: the screen is our guard breakdown of it
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  and it's the same drill but now we're kind of going out of like
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  a ball screen so we
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  run a ball screen motion so now as coaches we're just dummy
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  defense we start out of
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  kind of like a hostage hold situation and then coming off a
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  ball screen but again
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  same same reads now we have two defenders on the weak side but
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  we're other than
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  SPEAKER_01: that the drill is pretty much the same
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  but just kind of understanding how to layer it a little bit
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  with some of the
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  SPEAKER_01: actions that we use within our offense.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just again, just to kind of get them some reps, the angles matter.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it's,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: a little bit different when you're coming off that ball screen,
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  SPEAKER_01: trying to focus on,
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  SPEAKER_01: we also talk about like coming off that ball screen,
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  getting our shoulders parallel to the baseline so that we can
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  scan the whole court
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  SPEAKER_01: and make sure that we're making the right read in each situation.
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  SPEAKER_00: everybody's always asking like, how do we get better in the ball screen?
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  SPEAKER_00: And we all know it's now a five man action.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I even was watching the notice the other day in the Olympics,
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  knowing where help is coming from teams are getting more
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  creative about not always
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  SPEAKER_00: coming from the same spot.
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  And when you have a point guard that can quickly identify where
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  help came from,
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  SPEAKER_00: make the right pitch.
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  And then that person either shoot it or get the dominoes
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  falling is like essential.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is a very simple drill that you can do to work on that.
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  and that's the same thing you know we talk about like as and i
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  you know my position
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  group here at bu is the point guards and combo guards so we
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  talk a lot about that
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  reading reading the second layer of the defense like you can
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  read the primary
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  defense on a ball screen but your job then is you reading the
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  secondary layer the
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  the help defense the post that's stepping up is it coming you
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  know from the corner
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  is it coming from where where is the tag coming from like all
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  those different
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  SPEAKER_01: things
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  that becomes you know the end the end goal and then again from
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  that perspective
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  once we've made that read of where our pass out is then we're
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  reading do we have do
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  we have the shot do we need to make the one more on the one
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  more do we need to do
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  we have the shot again or do we need to attack the long close
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  out and then like you
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  Are there any like buzzwords or anything that you use while
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  you're going through this?
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  SPEAKER_00: And I was just wondering in general,
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  I know last time we talked even about like feedback and
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  frequency of feedback,
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  SPEAKER_00: anything like that?
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, one thing we talk about a lot is I use the term scanning.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we're always scanning corner to corner.
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  SPEAKER_01: So again,
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  SPEAKER_01: I want our point guards and our guards,
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  SPEAKER_01: anybody coming off that ball screen action,
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  SPEAKER_01: anybody in transition.
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  just constantly scanning the floor and seeing side to side and
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  again we'd be in
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  order to be able to do that we need to get our shoulders
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  downhill and our shoulders
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  turned a little bit to the basket so you can see like i said we
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  start in a hostage
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  situation coming off that ball screen so our body's a little
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  bit turned protecting
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  SPEAKER_01: the ball but then as soon as we come off that ball screen
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  we want to depending on you know coverages and things like that
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  we want to get our
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  body to where we can see both sides like I said so we if the
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  tag is coming from the
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  strong side then we know we have the lift and we need to make a
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  hook pass to that
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  player you know as a tag comes from the weak side and we need
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  to see that weak side
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  corner but just making sure that we're not going lateral in
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  that space so I use
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  SPEAKER_01: kind of those that that kind of gets our guards understanding that
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  SPEAKER_01: how to turn their body,
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  how to shift and making sure that they're seeing the whole
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  court in order to make
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  SPEAKER_01: the various secondary reads.
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  The other thing we just we just talk a lot about the playing
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  off the catch.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's a very simple term.
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  SPEAKER_01: But, you know, we want to play off long closeouts as much as possible.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's ultimately our goal.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then
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  know what does that what does that look like from there you
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  know trying and then we
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  all obviously we use the advantages how do we get big
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  advantages and then yeah like
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  you said we try to i'm talking a lot now but i i there are very
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  many there are many
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  days in practice where i get done and i'm like gosh i hardly
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  said anything but it's
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  allowing the players you know you build the foundation and then
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  you allow them to
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  SPEAKER_01: kind of figure things out in space depending on
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  time and space depending on where you are in the season where
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  they are you know and
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  how long they've been in the program and stuff like that so i
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  like to think that
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  they they do a pretty good job of understanding what we're
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  looking for at this
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  point this is a relatively newer drill for us but i've come to
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  highly enjoy it but
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  SPEAKER_01: building on this is a four on three
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  continuous drill in the half court basically similarly it's a
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  little bit of a
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  decision making shooting drill i kind of see it as but we put a
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  minute and a half
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  on the clock eight second shot clock we're working down toward
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  a six second shot
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  clock the offensive players are just trying to score as quick
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  as possible they
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  could that's the only rule they're just trying to score as
• 14:28
  quick as possible they
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  then as soon as the shot goes up make or miss they are
• 14:33
  immediately going back
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  SPEAKER_01: touching half court
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  SPEAKER_01: The defense will grab the ball, outlet it to a coach.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then the coach,
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  SPEAKER_01: once all four players have touched half court,
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  SPEAKER_01: the coach puts it back in play.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you can kind of see they're just, again, eight, six second shot clock.
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  SPEAKER_01: Defense is scrambling, just trying to make it as tough as possible.
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  SPEAKER_01: Every possession.
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  SPEAKER_01: They can go wherever they want,
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  SPEAKER_01: so when they touch half-court,
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  SPEAKER_01: they don't always have to run to the same side or the same spot.
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  SPEAKER_01: They obviously tend to.
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  SPEAKER_01: This might have even been one of the first times we did it.
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  SPEAKER_01: But it's very fast.
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  SPEAKER_01: You've got to think fast.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a little chaotic.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_01: I love chaos.
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  SPEAKER_01: But we're just trying.
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  Obviously,
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  you have a one-person advantage,
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  so we're trying to hunt layups.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're trying to hunt uncontested shots.
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  but you have to do it very quickly because there's only eight
• 15:24
  seconds and you're
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_01: trying to score as many points as possible.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like I said, a minute and a half and they were gassed.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_01: They were so tired.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: I'm getting tired of watching this.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: This is, this is pretty high face.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_01: It is.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's very like,
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_01: you can see there were a lot of turnovers and again,
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  SPEAKER_01: very first time I'll,
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  SPEAKER_01: I'll give us credit.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was the very first time.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm pretty sure it was the first time we did it.
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  SPEAKER_01: So our spacing wasn't great.
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  SPEAKER_01: We were worried about the clock.
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  SPEAKER_01: The defense did a good job scrambling and making it tough for us.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then after a minute and a half,
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  SPEAKER_01: we flip and then the offense,
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  SPEAKER_01: the gray team would be on offense.
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  SPEAKER_01: The red team would be on defense and then whoever wins.
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  SPEAKER_01: But I really like this drill.
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  SPEAKER_01: We did it again since this first one.
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  SPEAKER_01: We got a little bit better.
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  SPEAKER_01: We still have a long ways to go.
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  SPEAKER_01: You could also do it from a defensive perspective,
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  SPEAKER_01: which I think is something,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: in the offseason,
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  SPEAKER_01: we don't focus a whole lot on that piece,
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  SPEAKER_01: like postseason and stuff.
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  But going into next year,
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  we've talked about using it from a defensive perspective.
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  keeping track of stops just to force us to really work on our
• 16:33
  scramble in a short
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  SPEAKER_01: shot clock situation and things like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a really,
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_01: again,
• 16:38
  another advantage drill that we like to use for the decision
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  making piece,
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  SPEAKER_01: the recognizing and trying to hunt great shots,
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  SPEAKER_01: which again,
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: for us are layups and uncontested shots and shots off the catch.
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  So here we go into kind of starting into some of our advantage
• 16:57
  games or constraint games.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_01: So this is, we call it three on three wildcat rules.
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  SPEAKER_01: And basically the rule, it's three on three.
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  SPEAKER_01: We play with almost everything we do.
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  SPEAKER_01: We play with the half second rule.
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  SPEAKER_01: So trying to make a decision on the catch in a half second.
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  SPEAKER_01: Depending on where we are in the season,
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  SPEAKER_01: we can be a little bit more lenient as coaches with that or more strict.
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  The other rule that we incorporate is you have to make sure you
• 17:21
  catch and look at the rim.
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  Our players have a bad habit of catching and not even looking
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  at the basket,
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  SPEAKER_01: so just getting eyes to the rim every time.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then our other like inherent rule is no dead dribbles.
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  SPEAKER_01: So making sure that we have a purpose with our dribble.
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  SPEAKER_01: So those are our kind of foundational rules that we play anytime we do,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: small sided games,
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_01: three on three,
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  SPEAKER_01: four on four,
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  SPEAKER_01: two on two.
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  SPEAKER_01: This one, three on three Wildcat specifically is...
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  and I probably spoke about it last time,
• 17:49
  but now hopefully have a little bit of visual.
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  So every catch has to be outside the three point line or on a
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  direct cut to the
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_01: basket that leads to a layup.
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  SPEAKER_01: So basically we're trying to not catch the ball in the mid range.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now they can attack off the dribble into the mid range,
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  SPEAKER_01: but they cannot receive a pass in the mid range unless it's on a cut.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's going to lead directly to a layup.
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  SPEAKER_01: So they can't,
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  cut cut catch it and then take three dribble the basket if it's
• 18:20
  inside the
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  three-point line if that makes sense so it'll kind of see
• 18:23
  you'll see how that plays
• 18:24
  out a little bit just again for the purpose there's a couple
• 18:28
  reasons we it's one of
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  SPEAKER_01: my favorite three-on-three games to play but just working on
• 18:35
  Spacing so making sure that you know when we pass if we do make
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  a cut to the basket
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  we don't receive the ball we don't stay in that no man's land
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  we get out and try to
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  get outside the three point line to make sure that we're
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  catching outside of that
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  SPEAKER_01: area.
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  the other thing is understanding like when we make a pass to a
• 18:54
  player we want to
• 18:55
  lead them into a position where they are scoring otherwise it
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  might not be a great
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  pass to make like if we're if they're making a iverson cut and
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  it's leading them to
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  the sideline and the person's going under and it's not
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  necessarily going to lead
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  them to an advantage do we want to make that pass so just kind
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  of helping them kind
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  SPEAKER_01: of understand what we're sending our teammate into
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  And then the last part of that puzzle piece is with three
• 19:24
  people,
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  you can set off ball screens.
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  SPEAKER_01: There are no ball screens in this.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can set off ball screens.
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  So making sure that we're intentional with the angle that we're
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  setting off ball
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  SPEAKER_01: screens and not again,
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  SPEAKER_01: sending them.
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  SPEAKER_01: For some reason, the very first time any team I've done does this,
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  they pass and then they love to anytime the ball goes to like
• 19:44
  the top they love to
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  set like a cross screen across the free throw line and i have
• 19:49
  no idea where they
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  like it's not a screen you ever practice every anywhere and it
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  does and it sends
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  your teammate like across to the sideline and almost like an
• 20:00
  iverson but i like i'm
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_01: i'm always dumbfounded by that and
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_01: We have to stop and be like, OK, now what are we sending them into?
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like, is there a better angle for the screening action?
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_01: You know, where do we want them to go kind of thing?
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_01: But.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_01: But it is, you know, again, just kind of.
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  gets them to understand where they want to receive catches and
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  what we want to emphasize.
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  Outside the three,
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  creating space or cutting to the basket leading to a layup.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_01: And as a passer and receiver,
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_01: making sure we're putting each other in a position to be successful.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_01: This is another advantage drill we do.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: Basically, it's a four on three plus one.
• 20:44
  So it's four on four,
• 20:45
  but we start with an offensive advantage for the ball handler.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_01: We will start with just doing it four on four, not out of an action.
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  SPEAKER_01: You'll see as we go through, we run pistol.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_01: So we run pistol as our secondary break.
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  SPEAKER_01: So then we'll change the formation.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we're running it out of a pistol action.
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  SPEAKER_01: but still with the big offensive advantage.
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  So how it starts is our head coaches at half court offense
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  starts in the backcourt
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  defensive defender on the ball handler will start with their
• 21:15
  heels on the semi
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  SPEAKER_01: circle at half court.
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  And then we will mix up whether we have,
• 21:21
  sometimes we have an empty corner.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes we have the post at the low post instead of,
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  SPEAKER_01: and the trail right now we have the trail and then both,
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  SPEAKER_01: both wings basically,
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: but you can,
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_01: again,
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_01: Jennifer L.
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  Whatever you know your offense is wherever your formation in
• 21:36
  your spacings are is
• 21:38
  where you can put the offensive players but it's a pretty big
• 21:41
  advantage again with
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_01: this.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_01: Jennifer L.
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  We talk a lot about we usually do like a pretty quick shot
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  clock so 10 to 12
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  SPEAKER_01: seconds,
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_01: depending on again what we're emphasizing and then.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_01: With this drill, again, twos and threes.
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  Then we give the opponents twos and threes if we miss the shot
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  based on what the shot value was.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: And then we will give one extra point for passing accuracy.
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  Or sometimes we just won't count the basket if it's a bad pass,
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  even if we make it.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_01: So just kind of understanding that.
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  SPEAKER_00: They get the extra point only if it goes in?
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_01: So here it is.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_01: So this is out of pistol.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_01: So we've changed and now we're running it out of pistol,
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  SPEAKER_01: our pistol action,
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_01: but everything else is the same.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_01: Still with the short shot clock,
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  trying to make quick choices and then moving off of it and
• 22:35
  getting in and out of
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_01: space.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_01: So here's the pistol action.
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  We set the screen to the baseline and we give them that freedom
• 22:43
  and then just
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_01: making quick reads out of that.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_01: That was a good possession for us.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: That was good.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_01: That was good.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_00: So is this, is this from this summer?
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  This is from actually,
• 22:54
  no,
• 22:55
  this is from last,
• 22:56
  this is from last season actually in season.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that's my, that's why we have our practice guys.
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  SPEAKER_00: Gotcha.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_00: So you guys have built up to this.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is what you would run,
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: in a January practice,
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_00: just repping your,
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: your offense for a short period of time.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 23:12
  And so what we do,
• 23:13
  we will start with not like basically like we've done this
• 23:17
  summer.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_01: So our players are here this summer for six weeks.
• 23:20
  And so we've done the basic four on four piece with the spacing
• 23:25
  concepts and just
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: kind of moving them around to different places,
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_01: whether we have a,
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like I said,
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_01: post in the trail,
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_01: post in the low posts,
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_01: but we haven't done as much with the pistol piece yet,
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_01: but we will like going into the fall,
• 23:39
  but we will do this probably two or three times a week
• 23:42
  throughout the whole season.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's kind of just,
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_01: it's almost like our,
• 23:45
  it becomes our warmup a little bit in a way as we get deeper
• 23:49
  into the season.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_01: just as a way for us to refresh what our looks are.
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  We'll change the coverages on the ball screen in Pistol based
• 23:58
  on who we're playing that week.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it's just kind of, it's also a little bit of a game prep piece for us.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_01: Or if like the defense is, a lot of teams will be very
• 24:08
  specific and taking certain actions away like they'll take away
• 24:11
  that drift pass for
• 24:12
  us in that baseline so we'll make sure that our defense
• 24:15
  especially when we're
• 24:16
  fortunate enough to have our scout guys um or our practice guys
• 24:20
  we'll have make
• 24:20
  sure that they take that away you know consistently and force
• 24:24
  us to make the other
• 24:25
  reads and things like that this is a more player development
• 24:29
  piece but i kind of
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_01: prefaced the beginning with figuring out what you want to work on
• 24:34
  and creating a drill so this is this is me creating a drill on
• 24:39
  something I wanted
• 24:40
  to work on and in our individual sessions where I may it may be
• 24:45
  a one person or two
• 24:46
  people but still trying to work on some something specific in
• 24:51
  that space so for us
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  SPEAKER_01: I wanted to work on passing off
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_01: like when our passing accuracy and passing off the dribble.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_01: And we talk a lot about our guards getting the spots.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the cones are just different spots.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can move them, put them wherever you want.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_01: I just put them in those spots,
• 25:08
  but I created a situation where they can get to any spot
• 25:13
  anytime they want.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_01: So they're just going cone to cone.
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  and then that weak side player is a coach right now um because
• 25:20
  i'm video as soon as
• 25:22
  that coach calls for the ball the offensive player has to pick
• 25:26
  up and make that
• 25:26
  pass so again we're just working on passing off the dribble and
• 25:30
  i want i want them
• 25:31
  getting the ball out of their hand as quick as possible and
• 25:34
  then having the
• 25:35
  defensive player just there to my pressure but we're also
• 25:39
  working on our hostage
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  SPEAKER_01: dribble
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  SPEAKER_01: So you can see she's just trying to get to her spot.
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  So we're working on that piece,
• 25:48
  you know,
• 25:49
  all using our hostage,
• 25:50
  using our veer.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_01: And then I evolved the drill to then include,
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_01: like,
• 25:56
  we did it where they had to retreat dribble every time they got
• 26:01
  to a spot.
• 26:01
  So they get to their spot,
• 26:03
  retreat dribble,
• 26:04
  get to their next spot,
• 26:05
  retreat dribble.
• 26:06
  And then as soon as the coach calls for the ball and the coach
• 26:09
  can move on the weak
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  SPEAKER_01: side,
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  SPEAKER_01: they have to be able to make an accurate pass to that coach.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_01: And it's how,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 26:15
  and the feedback for that just is basically like how quickly
• 26:19
  they're getting the
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_01: ball out of their hands,
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_01: what kind of pass,
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 26:22
  I have one player who just wants to throw like bullet passes
• 26:26
  all the time.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like,
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  SPEAKER_01: there's a time and a place,
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_01: she wants to get it on a line and that's how she is as a player.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I appreciate that.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_01: But sometimes you like,
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: sometimes the pass is a little bit of a loop pass or it's a hook pass,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: all the way across court.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_01: Today we had one player throw an underhand pass across court,
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_01: which actually was very effective and very creative.
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  And I will say she's an international player,
• 26:51
  so she has a little bit of that flair to her.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_01: But I want them feeling the different passes and being able to make,
• 26:59
  you don't know which hand it's going to be in when the coach
• 27:02
  calls for the ball.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_01: So is it going to be a push pass?
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_01: Is it going to be a hook pass?
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_01: Different things like that.
• 27:07
  But just kind of wanted to show something that we've
• 27:10
  incorporated and just talking
• 27:12
  about working back from what you want the skill or the decision
• 27:16
  piece to be.
• 27:17
  And then just trying to create that scenario as best you can
• 27:21
  with whatever
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_01: limitations you have,
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_01: whether it's number of players or space or,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_01: things like that.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_00: I'm glad you included that.
• 27:29
  I mean,
• 27:29
  the ability to coaching superpower to put together a drill or
• 27:33
  make up a game.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_00: But I think,
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_00: too,
• 27:34
  sometimes we think like coaching superpower equals this
• 27:37
  incredible game that
• 27:39
  involves a lot of players and a lot of movement and five or six
• 27:42
  skills and that
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_00: kind of thing.
• 27:43
  But keeping it simple so you can focus in on one thing kind of
• 27:46
  leads me to how I
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_00: get the question all the time.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like, how long are you doing this?
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_00: Is this something even something like this, like two or three minutes?
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  yeah i probably i would say maybe closer to five or six i will
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  we'll evolve it so
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  you know again i if i'm the pat if i'm the coach on that weak
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  side so i we did this
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  just strictly like it is here and then the next time we did it
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  i evolved it i was
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  SPEAKER_01: like okay how can we go from here so then the next time
• 28:16
  After the offensive player made the pass,
• 28:18
  they had to exit for a catch and shoot.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: And then from there I evolved it.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I was like, well, let's make the defend.
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  SPEAKER_01: If I have a defender,
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_01: if I don't have a defender,
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_01: if it's me on one player,
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_01: that's where the drill kind of ends with the catch and shoot.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_01: But then if I had a defender,
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_01: I had the defender then run at them for,
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  SPEAKER_01: they had to play off that catch.
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  So do they have enough time to get their shot off or is the
• 28:39
  defender able to get
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_01: there and take it away?
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_01: And then we go into a pull up or a finish.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_01: So then, you know, it kind of,
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_01: If I have more players and then I add,
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_01: like if that can be a player on that weak side,
• 28:50
  then it becomes a two on one situation and we're doing the same
• 28:53
  thing or moving off
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_01: penetration.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm glad you mentioned that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know that I've talked about it a lot of places.
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  I actually did a clinic on it one time,
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  but the idea of just building your small sided games.
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  And I think that my players have had now that I think about it
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  and the more I think
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  SPEAKER_00: about it,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: add in,
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  SPEAKER_00: like you said,
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_00: another piece.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think a lot of times coaches just think you add another player.
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  SPEAKER_00: but it doesn't have to be another player.
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  It could be another skill or something that whatever happens
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  next in a game.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm even seeing this,
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  SPEAKER_00: you could,
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  after you pass relocate and then you're playing one-on-one or
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  like shooting off of
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  SPEAKER_00: this or something like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the ability to build that,
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  SPEAKER_00: the transfer,
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  then I think the players have of stringing whatever is next so
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  that what's next in
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  your conceptual offense to then see the full picture of the
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  five on five or
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  SPEAKER_00: whatever is,
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  SPEAKER_00: Instead of just taking these random small-sided games and like,
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  we're going to play this for five minutes and then it becomes
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  some other good,
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  SPEAKER_00: but kind of random in the overall scheme of things.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, all right, now let's work on this for five minutes.
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  You miss out maybe sometimes on helping that player link one
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  piece to the next and
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  allow it to grow and for them to grow in their understanding of
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  the complexity of
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  SPEAKER_00: the whole thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, I 100% agree.
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  SPEAKER_01: And fortunately...
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to,
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  SPEAKER_01: I've been doing this a long time and,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  obviously have very much embraced and adopted the approach with
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  a small sided game.
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  So even within a workout,
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  like I'll visualize it as I would see it play out in a game.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it sounds like similarly you would do as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so for me, it's not easy.
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  SPEAKER_01: But it's something that comes,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: I've learned to be able to do that on the fly,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: within that workout.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh, okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  Now she needs,
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  after she makes that pass,
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  she needs to exit and get out for a shot.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then, you know, what comes next?
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now she's playing off that closeout.
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  SPEAKER_01: What comes next?
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  SPEAKER_01: And like you said, you know, and.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it does,
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  SPEAKER_01: I think,
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  SPEAKER_01: again,
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  having that continuity of what would happen in a game makes it
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  more realistic and
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  SPEAKER_01: the transfer much more seamless and likely for the players into the game
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  SPEAKER_01: performance,
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  SPEAKER_01: which is ultimately what we want.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then that just comes,
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  SPEAKER_00: like you said,
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  SPEAKER_00: I've gotten better at that the more that we've run our offense so that,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: like this is usually what happens in the game next.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or if we don't get a shot here,
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  then you know that this is commonly the thing that comes next
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  after it or whatever.
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  SPEAKER_00: So like anything else, it does take practice even for us coaches.
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  we're not going to do it today,
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  but I was looking before I got on to talk to you today.
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  SPEAKER_00: You have, there are some things that are out there.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you just search your name and then YouTube,
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  there are a couple of like clinics and then you also have a
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  page on there.
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  And the specific thing that I'm,
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  that maybe you can kind of point them to a little bit.
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  We touched just briefly on it with the pistol idea where you
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  are teaching them to
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  just play conceptually where it's just essentially your hunting
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  advantages.
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  SPEAKER_00: Where is our next advantage out on the floor?
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  SPEAKER_00: And,
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  And where a space that can help us create that advantage and
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  that that's the
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  SPEAKER_00: foundation that you're teaching.
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  SPEAKER_00: But eventually you,
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  SPEAKER_00: you typically put it into something like a,
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  we're going to run a Princeton ish type thing where we're going
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  to run driving
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  SPEAKER_00: space or something,
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  SPEAKER_00: whatever you adopt.
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  SPEAKER_00: But then once you decide that,
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  SPEAKER_00: then again,
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  going back and tearing it back down again and inserting
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  offensive actions into like
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  SPEAKER_00: three man actions and four man actions and that kind of thing too.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And a couple of those clinics that you talked about that in particular,
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if anything comes to mind or even like you like,
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  SPEAKER_00: oh,
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  SPEAKER_00: yeah,
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  SPEAKER_00: go and check this out or any more resources or ideas that coaches should
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  SPEAKER_00: investigate for that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I did.
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  SPEAKER_01: I did.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's a couple of clinics on my YouTube one.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, the foundation of everything is spacing.
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  SPEAKER_01: Cause I think that just,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: like you said,
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  SPEAKER_01: every team is different and how,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  what your strengths and weaknesses are and how you create
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  advantages is going to
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  SPEAKER_01: vary.
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  SPEAKER_01: That piece is,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: specific to a team,
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  but ultimately you're going to need to have your players are
• 32:49
  going to need to
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_01: understand spacing concepts,
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  SPEAKER_01: how to move without the ball,
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  SPEAKER_01: how to,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: when to cut,
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  SPEAKER_01: where to cut,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: and how to move in relation to the ball and,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_01: penetration and things like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: So one of the talks kind of starts with that foundation.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then you build on,
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  I build on like incorporating the actions to create the
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  advantage and what that
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  SPEAKER_01: looks like.
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  SPEAKER_01: And,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: for us,
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  it's ball screens or it has been ball screens primarily be just
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  because that's been
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  SPEAKER_01: successful for us.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we, you know, we're able to,
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  make a pretty good read off of that and understand how to get
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  to that next layer
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  SPEAKER_01: read and things like that,
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  SPEAKER_01: how to draw to and find the open player.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then like you talked about the beginning,
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  the domino effect and creating the biggest advantage we can and
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  hunting great
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  SPEAKER_01: shots.
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  And I think that's,
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  you know,
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  it's simple in a,
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  you know,
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  it's a simple concept.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's not rocket science.
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  SPEAKER_01: A lot of people are talking about it and doing it, which is awesome.
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  It's taken,
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  you know,
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  I think it's obviously become at the forefront of our game.
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  SPEAKER_01: But it just goes back to whatever,
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  SPEAKER_01: like you said,
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  SPEAKER_01: your two-person or three-person actions are,
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  SPEAKER_01: whether that's off-ball screening actions.
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  We run a similar secondary that's not pistol where it's just a
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  stagger away
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  SPEAKER_01: because,
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_01: like I said,
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  SPEAKER_01: we have a great shooter.
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  SPEAKER_01: So she's going to create an advantage just coming off a stagger screen.
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  SPEAKER_01: But we still want to create an advantage off that screen,
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  SPEAKER_01: whether it's for the screener,
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  SPEAKER_01: whether it's for the secondary screener,
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  SPEAKER_01: things like that.
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  and then but it's building backwards like you said peeling the
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  layers back and
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  talking about how why i think players have to understand what
• 34:25
  the advantage you're
• 34:25
  creating is and how you're creating it and why you're creating
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  it and then just
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  continuously emphasizing that and making sure that everybody's
• 34:35
  on the same page and
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_01: then from there it just becomes like i said it just becomes spacing
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  SPEAKER_00: I will be sure to link those down in the description.
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  I'll go back and find them again,
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  but they were great and we had a lot of good comments on them.
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  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I'll be sure to put those down there.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_00: Coach, this has been perfect.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly what I was hoping for.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for taking the time to put things together.
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  SPEAKER_00: You did a fantastic job.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, well, thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: I appreciate it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for having me.