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The Cutting Edge Chemist | Antoine Lavoisier · Beheaded

0:04
SPEAKER_00: Hello and welcome to Beheaded.
0:06
SPEAKER_00: Welcome to season three, episode 12.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm Megan Moore.
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SPEAKER_00: And I'm Elizabeth Black.
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SPEAKER_01: We're gonna talk about science today.
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SPEAKER_01: Science today.
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SPEAKER_01: Which I love are science episodes.
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SPEAKER_00: Elizabeth is gonna have to help a lot because I am not into science, but we're gonna try.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I'm the scientist, sure.
0:26
SPEAKER_00: I'm doing my best.
0:27
SPEAKER_00: We're getting ahead of ourselves.
0:29
SPEAKER_02: Hi, how are you?
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SPEAKER_02: I'm good.
0:31
SPEAKER_02: Are you talking to them or me?
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SPEAKER_02: Everyone.
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SPEAKER_02: All of us.
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SPEAKER_02: All of us.
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SPEAKER_00: The inevitable, them.
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SPEAKER_01: I am good.
0:37
SPEAKER_01: How are you, listeners?
0:39
SPEAKER_01: You good too?
0:40
SPEAKER_00: Pause like Dora the Explorer would.
0:42
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, Dora.
0:43
SPEAKER_00: How are you doing?
0:46
SPEAKER_00: Great.
0:48
SPEAKER_00: Say backpack.
0:49
SPEAKER_00: Say backpack.
0:51
SPEAKER_00: One of my favorite little memes.
0:53
SPEAKER_00: It's like, I don't know what's more awkward.
0:56
SPEAKER_00: Stare having Dora the Explorer just stare at you in silence or actually replying back to her.
1:02
SPEAKER_01: It's so true.
1:03
SPEAKER_01: My sister and I have like a 10-year age gap.
1:06
SPEAKER_01: So, like I was very much like a tween preteen when she was watching Dora.
1:11
SPEAKER_01: And I was like trying to watch it with her.
1:13
SPEAKER_01: I was like, I can't.
1:14
SPEAKER_01: I can't.
1:14
SPEAKER_01: I'm already like an awkward 13-year-old girl, and I'm just watching the show where she's like, What would you do?
1:21
SPEAKER_02: And I'm just like I was like, are we responding?
1:25
SPEAKER_02: Do I respond?
1:26
SPEAKER_02: Does my sister respond?
1:27
SPEAKER_02: We both respond.
1:27
SPEAKER_02: We both sit here in silence.
1:29
SPEAKER_01: It's very awkward.
1:30
SPEAKER_00: Oh, did you ever watch the live action?
1:32
SPEAKER_01: I was literally just gonna ask you the same question.
1:34
SPEAKER_00: God no, you could not pay me enough money.
1:37
SPEAKER_01: Who?
1:37
SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry, what like age group are they targeting with that movie?
1:40
SPEAKER_01: I was baffled.
1:41
SPEAKER_01: Like, I wouldn't watch it because I was 13 when the show came out.
1:45
SPEAKER_01: But would my sister watch it?
1:46
SPEAKER_01: No, because she's now 20-something and she doesn't want to watch that.
1:50
SPEAKER_00: I thought that Dora was like a five-year-old.
1:52
SPEAKER_00: This girl looks like she's like 23 who's playing Dora the Explorer.
1:56
SPEAKER_01: She's like a 23-year-old playing like a 12-year-old, and we're like, nope, I thought Dora was six.
2:01
SPEAKER_00: The whole thing is confusing.
2:03
SPEAKER_00: And who's is it The Rock is in it?
2:05
SPEAKER_00: Or no?
2:05
SPEAKER_00: I'm thinking of like not thinking of Jungle Cruiser.
2:08
SPEAKER_01: The Rock is in everything, so I imagine.
2:10
SPEAKER_01: I did see that Sandra Bullock movie that came out just recently.
2:14
SPEAKER_00: Oh, was that any good?
2:15
SPEAKER_01: No.
2:16
SPEAKER_01: No.
2:17
SPEAKER_01: City of Gold.
2:18
SPEAKER_01: Well, no, it was called not City of Gold.
2:19
SPEAKER_01: Um Lost City.
2:21
SPEAKER_00: Daniel Ratcliffe's in it.
2:22
SPEAKER_01: He is.
2:23
SPEAKER_01: He's actually, he I like his character.
2:25
SPEAKER_01: He's hilarious.
2:26
SPEAKER_01: But like and I obviously I love Sandra Bullock.
2:28
SPEAKER_01: It's nothing against her.
2:29
SPEAKER_01: It's just like it's one of those movies where like you chuckle a little and you're like, okay, that's cute, like that's funny, but overall you're like, this should have been a little bit better.
2:39
SPEAKER_01: Because it's like Brad Pitt, Channing Tatum, like Sandra Bullock, Daniel Radcliffe, like it's an all-star cast, and you think they'd be a little bit like funnier together.
2:46
SPEAKER_00: This is also post-pandemic, or are we still in it in the middle of pandemic?
2:51
SPEAKER_00: Anyways, I feel like movie quality is still getting on its feet again.
2:55
SPEAKER_01: That's true.
2:56
SPEAKER_01: They probably shot this like mid-pandemic, and we're still very, speaking of awkward, awkward with each other.
3:02
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, it was okay.
3:03
SPEAKER_01: It was like, I mean, see it, but don't expect much from it, I suppose.
3:07
SPEAKER_01: That's good.
3:07
SPEAKER_01: That's fair.
3:08
SPEAKER_01: She does look great.
3:09
SPEAKER_01: She's in her like early 60s, dude.
3:11
SPEAKER_01: Is she really?
3:12
SPEAKER_01: I think so.
3:12
SPEAKER_00: I used to live near a standard bullock.
3:14
SPEAKER_00: Where?
3:15
SPEAKER_00: In uh California.
3:16
SPEAKER_00: Well, I figured that much.
3:18
SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
3:18
SPEAKER_00: She lived in Sunset Beach.
3:20
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
3:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
3:20
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I think.
3:21
SPEAKER_00: I would see her washing her car.
3:23
SPEAKER_00: She washes her own car.
3:24
SPEAKER_00: No, she doesn't.
3:25
SPEAKER_00: They had a really cool um like wood paneled old time like beach.
3:29
SPEAKER_00: Station wagon?
3:30
SPEAKER_00: Like a beach cruiser.
3:31
SPEAKER_00: Like I think Beach Boys, you know, and like those old vintage.
3:34
SPEAKER_01: Like a van or like a station wagon?
3:36
SPEAKER_00: Like a station wagon.
3:37
SPEAKER_00: It was more like a Jeepy, like a crossover.
3:39
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
3:40
SPEAKER_00: It was it was like a 1950s vintage.
3:42
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what it is.
3:43
SPEAKER_00: It was cool.
3:44
SPEAKER_00: It had wood paneling on the side.
3:46
SPEAKER_00: Her and Tommy Lee Jones.
3:48
SPEAKER_00: That's who she was with, right?
3:49
SPEAKER_00: What?
3:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
3:50
SPEAKER_00: I didn't know that.
3:51
SPEAKER_00: No, maybe not him.
3:52
SPEAKER_00: Who's the guy who she divorced?
3:54
SPEAKER_01: I couldn't tell you.
3:56
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
3:56
SPEAKER_01: I'm bad at celebrity gossip and marriages and things of that sort.
4:01
SPEAKER_00: I'm better than you are, but not perfect.
4:03
SPEAKER_00: I'm better than you are.
4:05
SPEAKER_00: On that.
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SPEAKER_00: Not perfect, though.
4:07
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you're the one who's gonna explain science tonight, not me.
4:10
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
4:10
SPEAKER_01: So so good at science.
4:12
SPEAKER_01: Um anyway.
4:13
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, I love her, but she so she I think I you know though, like one of those movies where like older actresses make them and I think they just make them to like be cute.
4:21
SPEAKER_01: Like, look, I'm still pretty.
4:23
SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm not saying anything like that against her.
4:25
SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying the whole movie just felt like you're just like admiring Sandra Bolock.
4:28
SPEAKER_01: Like, look how cute she is still.
4:30
SPEAKER_00: She is not in her early 60s.
4:31
SPEAKER_00: Is she really?
4:32
SPEAKER_01: Well, I know my mom always says that they're the same age.
4:35
SPEAKER_01: My mom's 62.
4:36
SPEAKER_01: Alright.
4:36
SPEAKER_01: Hey Siri.
4:39
SPEAKER_01: What age is Sandra Bolock?
4:42
SPEAKER_00: Sandra Boloch is 57 years old.
4:47
SPEAKER_00: She looks great.
4:48
SPEAKER_00: Okay, Siri, thank you.
4:49
SPEAKER_00: Did you know that you can do this with Siri?
4:51
SPEAKER_00: You can go, hey Siri.
4:54
SPEAKER_00: Lumos.
4:57
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
4:58
SPEAKER_02: I'm turning torch on.
5:00
SPEAKER_00: Torch.
5:00
SPEAKER_00: They call it torch.
5:01
SPEAKER_00: Hey Siri.
5:06
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
5:07
SPEAKER_02: I'm turning torch off.
5:08
SPEAKER_00: So it's your flashlight.
5:10
SPEAKER_01: Yours is a British woman.
5:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, why wouldn't you be a British woman?
5:12
SPEAKER_01: Mine's an English man.
5:14
SPEAKER_00: Jake has like an Australian lady.
5:17
SPEAKER_00: I like mine to be a guy.
5:18
SPEAKER_00: And I like, but I kind of hate that he answers me like, mm-hmm.
5:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're bothering me.
5:23
SPEAKER_00: I was doing my phone things inside my phone, researching Google.
5:26
SPEAKER_00: You should say, Yes, Queen, what would you like?
5:29
SPEAKER_00: Can't you say things to like make them nicer to you?
5:31
SPEAKER_00: Probably, but I don't like that his attitude just like he probably mirrors your attitude.
5:36
SPEAKER_00: We both just have attitude.
5:38
SPEAKER_00: Your AI matches your personality, like that movie, her.
5:41
SPEAKER_00: But anyways, what I was trying to show without showing, because this is a podcast and I can't show.
5:45
SPEAKER_01: Oh, sorry, I should have commented on what was happening.
5:48
SPEAKER_00: You can do a few Harry Potter spells and that.
5:52
SPEAKER_00: I forgot the other ones.
5:54
SPEAKER_00: That's the one.
5:54
SPEAKER_00: There was another one.
5:56
SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah.
5:57
SPEAKER_00: I did like It turns the flashlight on and off.
5:59
SPEAKER_01: Megan did tell me about this spell on the phone like a few months ago, and I remember it was like outside of a bar or something, and I was telling somebody, I was like, Hey, do you know if you talk to Sear, you can tell it to Lumos?
6:10
SPEAKER_01: And the guy's like, No way! And I like did it in front of him.
6:13
SPEAKER_01: And then no, but then this girl comes by and she goes, and to turn it off, you say nox.
6:17
SPEAKER_01: And she just like in passing said it, and I was like, Yeah.
6:21
SPEAKER_00: She should be my strength.
6:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
6:23
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's funny.
6:24
SPEAKER_00: Thank you, angel wearing jeans.
6:26
SPEAKER_00: So, how sore are you?
6:28
SPEAKER_00: Because you ran your like 10th marathon this year.
6:31
SPEAKER_01: No, only the third, and I'm dead, guys.
6:34
SPEAKER_01: I don't know why I do this.
6:35
SPEAKER_01: I don't even like it.
6:36
SPEAKER_01: I don't know why you do it either.
6:38
SPEAKER_01: I want I think it's an excuse to see like all 50 states, and I'm a runner, so I feel like I should have some sort of running goal attached to it.
6:45
SPEAKER_01: Go without running 26 miles every time.
6:48
SPEAKER_01: I've been told that, and I probably should.
6:50
SPEAKER_01: I just like, I don't know.
6:52
SPEAKER_01: Now that I've like, I'm I'm an inertia person, and once I'm going in one direction, I just keep going with it until the end.
6:58
SPEAKER_00: That's a very nice way to explain your personality as having inertia to complete things.
7:04
SPEAKER_00: Isn't it kind of true?
7:05
SPEAKER_00: Like no matter what it is.
7:06
SPEAKER_00: Obsessive compulsive disorder.
7:08
SPEAKER_01: Because sometimes it applies to laziness.
7:10
SPEAKER_01: Like if I'm having a lazy day, inertia just you're yeah, you're a committed person.
7:16
SPEAKER_00: Yes, you're dedicated.
7:17
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
7:18
SPEAKER_00: Once you start something, I don't finish.
7:20
SPEAKER_00: Do not stop until you're done.
7:22
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
7:22
SPEAKER_00: So it I will give you that.
7:24
SPEAKER_01: It applies to good and bad things in my life.
7:27
SPEAKER_01: Sometimes if it's late and I'm like feeling snacky or drinky, I'm like, I'm gonna snack and drink until I'm sleeping.
7:33
SPEAKER_01: So it's it's a bad in that regard.
7:35
SPEAKER_01: Or like, yeah, bad if I'm lazy of like, I'm not gonna move all day.
7:39
SPEAKER_01: You're committed.
7:39
SPEAKER_01: I'm committed to that.
7:41
SPEAKER_01: But it's you know, when I run, I'm like, I'm gonna run all day, and then I'm gonna run all the 50 states, and I just keep going.
7:47
SPEAKER_01: It's like forrest gum.
7:50
SPEAKER_00: He had a commitment problem too.
7:52
unknown: Great.
7:53
SPEAKER_00: I think I'll go home now.
7:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
7:56
SPEAKER_01: So I don't know, whatever.
7:58
SPEAKER_01: I have this inertia problem, but I've already started, so I'm not gonna anyway.
8:02
SPEAKER_01: I'm sore.
8:03
SPEAKER_01: I didn't it was a hard run.
8:04
SPEAKER_01: It was uh in Nashville, Tennessee.
8:06
SPEAKER_01: It was hot, it was hilly.
8:08
SPEAKER_01: Um, I've never seen this on a marathon, but they were literally handing out like ice cold towels and sponges so that way you could just like douse yourself with this ice cold water while you're running.
8:18
SPEAKER_01: Like I literally took a towel and just wrapped it around my neck like a little scarf, and it was just like this wet, ice cold towel.
8:25
SPEAKER_01: Some people were like tiring around their arms.
8:26
SPEAKER_01: One girl was fully passed out on the side of the road.
8:29
SPEAKER_01: She had, don't worry, she had paramedics, like she was fine.
8:32
SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
8:32
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if she's fine.
8:34
SPEAKER_01: RIP with her, but I should follow up with that girl.
8:37
SPEAKER_01: No, but they were just like covering her and like like water towels, just like shading her and making sure she was okay.
8:43
SPEAKER_01: And again, I was telling Megan this earlier, but like a lot of times you have these big turns in a race where like you run out six miles and then run back.
8:52
SPEAKER_01: So, for example, when I was on like mile 18, a lot of the people that were finishing the race, like the elite runners that run super fast were already like coming around mile whatever it was, like 23, 24, and they were walking.
9:04
SPEAKER_01: I don't see elite runners walk ever.
9:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and like that's how just hot it was and just like miserable.
9:10
SPEAKER_01: So I was like, all right, not my best, but I finished it.
9:12
SPEAKER_01: It was actually funny.
9:14
SPEAKER_01: So um, I was with Robbie, and they give you this like literal, like tiny little metal at the end of the race, and Robbie was like, that can't be it.
9:25
SPEAKER_01: He's like, What is this thing you're wearing?
9:26
SPEAKER_01: I was like, This is the metal they gave me.
9:28
SPEAKER_01: He's like, That's a mistake.
9:30
SPEAKER_01: He's like, someone's getting fired because of that metal, because usually they give you a thing.
9:34
SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to make a like what what size would you call that?
9:37
SPEAKER_00: The size of a nice orange.
9:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like a good size orange is the good size of a metal.
9:42
SPEAKER_01: This was the size of a cracker, like a tiny little small.
9:46
SPEAKER_01: I'm doing a weird Ritz cracker situation.
9:49
SPEAKER_01: You can still add it to your collection.
9:50
SPEAKER_01: I yeah, it's fine, but it was just funny because he was like, someone got fired over that like mistake.
9:55
SPEAKER_01: They were clearly like teeny tiny little metals.
9:57
SPEAKER_00: Oh no.
9:58
SPEAKER_00: But overall, did you like Nashville?
10:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I did.
10:00
SPEAKER_00: Nashville, Tennessee.
10:02
SPEAKER_01: It reminded me of like Old Town Scottsdale, because we both live in Scottsdale.
10:05
SPEAKER_01: So it like looked like that, you know, but they were like piled high.
10:09
SPEAKER_01: It was like you had an old town club with like three additional stories on top of it, people just like pouring out of the windows, live music and every floor.
10:18
SPEAKER_00: On every day of the week, too.
10:19
SPEAKER_00: It doesn't need to be Saturday or Sunday, it'll be a Tuesday and every bar is packed.
10:23
SPEAKER_00: It was wild.
10:24
SPEAKER_01: Like I didn't expect it to be so fun.
10:26
SPEAKER_01: And like, so it kind of had like a Vegas vibe because it was so crowded, but definitely like a bourbon street, like down south, like we're here to party kind of vibe.
10:35
SPEAKER_00: But not as clubby as Bourbon Street.
10:37
SPEAKER_00: It's more dive bars and like live in all ages.
10:41
SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, because I mean Scottsdale, if you ever come here, it's full of very snobby, young, like bougie kind of Scottsdale people.
10:50
SPEAKER_01: And you go out to Nashville and everyone's just like all across America type of looking person, just like having a good time, all ages.
10:57
SPEAKER_01: There's like, you know, grandparents in the bar just tapping their toes.
11:00
SPEAKER_00: That's cute.
11:01
SPEAKER_00: There's definitely a scene here in Scottsdale where people go out and they they go out just for the purpose of judging others.
11:08
SPEAKER_00: I feel like it's there are places I stay way far away from because I just know, like, well, I'm not putting makeup and heels on, so I'm just gonna avoid this area completely.
11:20
SPEAKER_01: A little ridiculous in Scottsdale.
11:21
SPEAKER_01: Again, if you ever come here, like don't feel bad about yourself by going to any of these places because half of these people are like very fake, like literally all the injections and the lips and the fake eyelashes and the hair extension.
11:34
SPEAKER_01: It's hilarious though.
11:35
SPEAKER_00: All the bachelorette parties, and it's just so over the top.
11:38
SPEAKER_01: It's ridiculous.
11:39
SPEAKER_01: So I appreciate that Nashville's like cool and chill, and like the bachelorette parties just look like nice regular girls going out and having fun.
11:45
SPEAKER_01: When you come to Scottsdale, it's like a spectacle, and they're just kind of the worst.
11:49
SPEAKER_00: It's becoming a joke.
11:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
11:51
SPEAKER_00: Um, speaking of cool people, I saw three super cool girls last night.
11:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
11:57
SPEAKER_00: Uh for those who like the band Haim, it's the three sisters.
12:02
SPEAKER_00: They're probably like the coolest people.
12:06
SPEAKER_00: I just was watching them, like everything about them is cool.
12:09
SPEAKER_00: Their confidence, their style, their musical talent.
12:12
SPEAKER_00: It's just a really chill, cool.
12:14
SPEAKER_00: I I'm not gonna call it a girl band because they don't like to be called a girl band because they are far away from being a considered a girl band.
12:20
SPEAKER_00: They're very talented.
12:21
SPEAKER_00: They're very talented, but they um they're also best friends with Taylor Swift, so that also adds to it.
12:26
SPEAKER_00: And they were just in a movie, and the youngest one, Alana, just starred in the movie Licorice Pizza.
12:31
SPEAKER_00: Right.
12:32
SPEAKER_00: Um, so they were like at the Oscars just recently.
12:34
SPEAKER_00: So they've had a lot on their plates, but that was a really, really fun concert.
12:37
SPEAKER_00: This was literally last night.
12:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, last night.
12:40
SPEAKER_00: Good for you.
12:40
SPEAKER_00: Um, I know on a Monday.
12:41
SPEAKER_00: Look at me.
12:42
SPEAKER_00: I know.
12:42
SPEAKER_00: Uh the best part of the entire concert, though, was they started singing.
12:48
SPEAKER_00: You would you would really appreciate this, Elizabeth.
12:50
SPEAKER_00: The song from a goofy movie.
12:53
SPEAKER_00: Oh.
12:53
SPEAKER_00: Remember the concert at the end, and the whole movie is about this like cool to the concert.
13:00
SPEAKER_00: Power line.
13:00
SPEAKER_01: Power line.
13:01
SPEAKER_00: And they started, I don't know how they got on the topic, and then they just start singing the power line song, and the whole band picks up on it.
13:07
SPEAKER_01: What song is that at the end?
13:08
SPEAKER_01: Because there's two songs.
13:09
SPEAKER_00: Um it's not standout, it's like I'm listen to each other.
13:13
SPEAKER_00: There's hugs.
13:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's a great song.
13:15
SPEAKER_00: It was really funny.
13:16
SPEAKER_00: So I appreciate them just on that level.
13:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
13:18
SPEAKER_00: Maybe because they're also in their 30s.
13:20
SPEAKER_00: They're like 30, 30, 33, 36, I think.
13:24
SPEAKER_01: So wait, the youngest one's 30.
13:26
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I just think.
13:26
SPEAKER_00: She's just so much 30 because she had a joint birthday party with Taylor Swift on.
13:30
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's cool.
13:31
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I like that.
13:31
SPEAKER_00: The fact I know these things.
13:33
SPEAKER_00: See, I am a level up on my pop, but anything anything Taylor Swift.
13:37
SPEAKER_01: I'm just also just fun side note.
13:39
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I know we went to Disney World last year together, but the only like Disney pins that Megan and I bought were just goofy movie pins.
13:46
SPEAKER_00: I had the power I have the power line one.
13:49
SPEAKER_00: So good.
13:49
SPEAKER_00: I know.
13:50
SPEAKER_00: I should have gotten and thrown it at him.
13:51
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, here you go.
13:52
SPEAKER_01: Oh god, no, don't give that up.
13:54
SPEAKER_01: No.
13:54
SPEAKER_01: But I remember like because Megan had hers first, and I kept saying, I was like, oh, all I want is like goofy movie pins.
14:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
14:00
SPEAKER_01: And we found that collection that I bought, remember?
14:02
SPEAKER_01: And it was like, it was the one of I think it was Max, and then there's one of the Leaning Tower of Cheesa.
14:09
SPEAKER_01: They're just like, they're really cute.
14:10
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, they're my favorite Disney Plus.
14:12
SPEAKER_00: For anyone who doesn't know what Goofy Movie is, just do yourself a favor.
14:16
SPEAKER_00: Go and turn it on.
14:16
SPEAKER_00: It's such a cute movie.
14:18
SPEAKER_00: Disney Plus.
14:18
SPEAKER_00: I went with Dr.
14:19
SPEAKER_00: John last night.
14:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
14:21
SPEAKER_00: Um, who some of you might know from season one.
14:24
SPEAKER_01: And the blackjack catchem.
14:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he explained the anatomy of what happens when you're beheaded.
14:29
SPEAKER_00: Very educational.
14:30
SPEAKER_00: Uh I have to call him out on this because he has not seen Goofy Movies, so that is the next thing on our list.
14:36
SPEAKER_00: Yep, I said.
14:37
SPEAKER_00: And he listens, right?
14:38
SPEAKER_01: You better tell him.
14:40
SPEAKER_00: Dr.
14:40
SPEAKER_00: John.
14:40
SPEAKER_00: Dr.
14:41
SPEAKER_00: John.
14:41
SPEAKER_00: Paging Dr.
14:42
SPEAKER_00: John.
14:42
SPEAKER_00: Paging Dr.
14:44
SPEAKER_00: John.
14:44
SPEAKER_00: I expect you to watch a goofy movie.
14:47
SPEAKER_00: I'm not even expecting an extremely goofy movie.
14:49
SPEAKER_01: No.
14:49
SPEAKER_01: At least the first one.
14:50
SPEAKER_01: Just the first one.
14:51
SPEAKER_01: And it's not a big commitment.
14:52
SPEAKER_01: It's like 90 minutes.
14:54
SPEAKER_01: And it for me, it's one of those perfect like beginning of summer movies.
14:58
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
14:59
SPEAKER_00: Because it's like last day of school.
15:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like last day of school vacation.
15:02
SPEAKER_01: Summer vacation starts.
15:03
SPEAKER_01: It's such a feel-good movie.
15:04
SPEAKER_01: Like you have to watch it when summer starts.
15:07
SPEAKER_00: However, I just made Dr.
15:08
SPEAKER_00: John also watch Encanto, and now he knows about Bruno.
15:14
SPEAKER_00: Because this song is addicting, and he will just randomly text me the lyrics just so it's in my head.
15:22
SPEAKER_00: It's actually a curse.
15:23
SPEAKER_00: It's the meanest thing you can do to someone because it's guaranteed to be in your head for two to three days.
15:27
SPEAKER_01: I don't think Bruno's ever gonna like leave our minds.
15:30
SPEAKER_01: Bruno stuck for a while.
15:31
SPEAKER_00: We don't talk about Bruno.
15:33
SPEAKER_01: We don't talk about Bruno.
15:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
15:35
SPEAKER_01: I know.
15:36
SPEAKER_00: Anyways, science.
15:38
SPEAKER_00: Anyways.
15:39
SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about science.
15:40
SPEAKER_00: Shall we?
15:41
SPEAKER_00: Why are we talking about science?
15:43
SPEAKER_01: Well, today our executione is someone named Antoine Levoisier.
15:50
SPEAKER_00: Good job.
15:50
SPEAKER_01: Did I say it correctly?
15:52
SPEAKER_00: Lavoisier.
15:54
SPEAKER_01: Good.
15:54
SPEAKER_01: We each have our pronunciation written down.
15:56
SPEAKER_01: We practiced for you.
15:58
SPEAKER_00: That was our sound check, practicing the name of the show.
16:00
SPEAKER_00: Just saying it over and over.
16:02
SPEAKER_00: Levoisier to each other.
16:03
SPEAKER_01: Um but uh Megan will go into early life, but just like a brief overview is he was essentially a chemist.
16:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
16:11
SPEAKER_01: Circa the French Revolution, which, if you are a longtime listener of us, we've done a couple French Revolution episodes.
16:18
SPEAKER_01: And it's nice when we revisit time frames like this because each time you see it again and like learn about it again, you pick up on new things and you can kind of contextualize things a bit better.
16:28
SPEAKER_01: So I personally like whenever we do that because it's like, oh yeah, like we we talked about Marie Antoinette, we talked about Louis, like we, you know, let's like combine all of this and figure out what it means for for our new victim.
16:39
SPEAKER_00: I have an idea.
16:40
SPEAKER_01: Oh no.
16:41
SPEAKER_00: For season four.
16:42
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
16:42
SPEAKER_00: Because there are so many people beheaded.
16:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
16:45
SPEAKER_01: We just every episode, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
16:49
SPEAKER_01: Just name them all?
16:50
SPEAKER_01: Like that's our episode?
16:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we could just list names and like pick up about.
16:53
SPEAKER_01: There's 17,000 people, and we just recite their names.
16:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's a great episode.
16:58
SPEAKER_00: Us not knowing French names and how to pronounce them, and you and I just looking at each other like um gratitouille.
17:15
SPEAKER_00: Anywho.
17:16
SPEAKER_00: So okay, Antoine.
17:18
SPEAKER_00: Antoine.
17:18
SPEAKER_00: Le Voisier.
17:20
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
17:21
SPEAKER_00: Antoine was French.
17:24
SPEAKER_00: Great of all.
17:25
SPEAKER_00: Hi, it's Megan.
17:26
SPEAKER_00: Hi, it's Megan.
17:28
SPEAKER_00: Antoine was French.
17:29
SPEAKER_00: He was born wealthy, though.
17:31
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
17:32
SPEAKER_00: And he was born in Paris.
17:33
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
17:36
SPEAKER_00: This is a big thing.
17:37
SPEAKER_01: Is there a year attached to his birth, like a birthday?
17:40
SPEAKER_00: This will be another broomhill.
17:43
SPEAKER_00: No, it's not.
17:44
SPEAKER_01: I just like sometimes when you start off with early life.
17:46
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm like.
17:48
SPEAKER_01: So he's definitely French and he definitely is born in Paris.
17:54
SPEAKER_00: I'm cracking up because you're right.
17:56
SPEAKER_00: That's a sign.
17:57
SPEAKER_00: If I don't feel like I've been reading about this guy and reading so many like articles and whatever, you know I don't know shit if I start off with early life, okay?
18:09
SPEAKER_00: Date of birth.
18:10
SPEAKER_01: I just want to say I just want to say that you're really good at like when you kick off an episode, you know, right where you're going and you know how to improvise and what to say.
18:17
SPEAKER_01: But as soon as we know what we're gonna say and you have to start it just kind of I have to compose myself.
18:24
SPEAKER_00: Hi, it's Megan.
18:25
SPEAKER_00: All right, Antoine, born August 26th, 1743.
18:29
SPEAKER_02: Yay! He was born wealthy.
18:33
unknown: Great.
18:35
SPEAKER_00: Alright, I'm serious.
18:36
SPEAKER_00: I have to get it together.
18:37
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
18:37
SPEAKER_00: Um I'm gonna forget some wine.
18:39
SPEAKER_00: You go ahead.
18:40
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
18:40
SPEAKER_00: He's the son of an attorney.
18:43
SPEAKER_00: His dad was a lawyer.
18:44
SPEAKER_00: Perfect.
18:44
SPEAKER_00: And he worked in Parliament in Paris.
18:46
SPEAKER_00: Excuse me.
18:47
SPEAKER_00: Continue.
18:49
SPEAKER_00: I hope I'm not boring you.
18:50
SPEAKER_00: Oh no, I'm great.
18:51
SPEAKER_00: Go ahead.
18:52
SPEAKER_00: Um, his mom died when he was five, and he inherited all that fortune.
18:56
SPEAKER_00: So he definitely had his foot in the door in a good way.
18:59
SPEAKER_00: Perfect.
19:00
SPEAKER_00: He began his schooling at the age of 11, and he was really interested in science, especially in the last two years.
19:05
SPEAKER_00: So like 1760, 1761.
19:08
SPEAKER_00: He got super consumed in anything science, anatomy, chemistry, biology, uh astrology.
19:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and he started kind of being mentored by scientists of the time, but it was very much on the cusp of science.
19:23
SPEAKER_00: This is the late 1700s.
19:24
SPEAKER_00: We're just on the cusp of the French Enlightenment here.
19:26
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
19:28
SPEAKER_00: Um, because his father and his grandfather were both lawyers, he basically has to go to law school.
19:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, law school.
19:35
SPEAKER_00: He gets his bachelor's degree.
19:36
SPEAKER_00: Uh, he was accepted into the bar, but he never actually practiced law.
19:42
SPEAKER_00: So he was a lawyer who didn't practice law.
19:45
SPEAKER_01: Those are my favorite kind of lawyers.
19:46
SPEAKER_00: Just still have that in your back pocket and be like, well, I do have a law degree, I just don't use it.
19:51
SPEAKER_01: Honestly, if I had like unlimited funds, yeah, I think I would just get a law degree just to say I had it and I'd like school people on the law.
19:57
SPEAKER_01: But like I feel like it's a good degree to have.
19:59
SPEAKER_01: Totally.
19:59
SPEAKER_01: You could use it in so many instances.
20:02
SPEAKER_01: But I don't want to be an I don't want to be a lawyer.
20:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, zero desire to do it.
20:06
SPEAKER_00: Right.
20:07
SPEAKER_00: Um, so again, French Enlightenment, and he is really getting knee deep into chemistry at this point.
20:14
SPEAKER_00: Right.
20:14
SPEAKER_00: Um, and he studies geology for two years.
20:18
SPEAKER_00: He has a mentor, he's learning more and more, but he's realizing chemistry is really his passion.
20:23
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
20:24
SPEAKER_00: I chemistry was the only class I ever got a D in.
20:29
SPEAKER_01: Really?
20:30
SPEAKER_01: Well, it's a lot of like it's very math heavy.
20:33
SPEAKER_01: I think people don't realize that it is mostly math.
20:35
SPEAKER_00: I may have raised it to a C, but I was an A student.
20:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
20:38
SPEAKER_00: I could not do chemistry for the life of me.
20:41
SPEAKER_01: And chemistry is one of those things where like if you don't show up and learn everything every day, like just like math, like you'll lose it and you'll lose it quick.
20:48
SPEAKER_01: Like, I remember like again, I was always very strong in science and strong in math.
20:52
SPEAKER_01: And I went to like, I don't know, I went on vacation like sophomore year or something, and I missed like one week of like college prep chemistry.
20:59
SPEAKER_01: And I came back and I was like, I had no idea what the like the teacher saying at all.
21:04
SPEAKER_01: And this was like in high school.
21:05
SPEAKER_00: I never knew what the teacher was saying.
21:07
SPEAKER_00: I was really, I was an English major, I was really good at English, and I like the vagueness of like the sym symbolism behind something that you could really make an argument.
21:15
SPEAKER_00: Like law.
21:16
SPEAKER_00: A lot of English majors turn into law students.
21:18
SPEAKER_02: That's true.
21:18
SPEAKER_00: You can kind of conform your essay into however direction you want to go.
21:22
SPEAKER_00: Right.
21:23
SPEAKER_00: With chemistry, it took me like freaking three years to understand what an atom was.
21:27
SPEAKER_00: Like I was like, someone explain an atom.
21:30
SPEAKER_00: Explain.
21:30
SPEAKER_00: Explain this.
21:31
SPEAKER_00: Do I see it?
21:32
SPEAKER_00: Do I feel it?
21:33
SPEAKER_00: Right.
21:34
SPEAKER_00: Tiny.
21:34
SPEAKER_00: Do I see it in a microscope?
21:36
SPEAKER_00: Like, what is this thing?
21:37
SPEAKER_00: Anyways, moving on.
21:38
SPEAKER_00: He really liked chemistry, unlike Megan.
21:40
SPEAKER_00: Lavoisier, big into chemistry.
21:42
SPEAKER_00: He he starts actually writing papers.
21:45
SPEAKER_00: His first paper that he submitted to the French Academy of Sciences was about gypsum, the element.
21:51
SPEAKER_00: So he's starting to get into the elements.
21:53
SPEAKER_00: Sounds like a cocktail.
21:54
SPEAKER_00: Right?
21:55
SPEAKER_00: That would be a cool cocktail name.
21:57
SPEAKER_00: Um, but this is the 1760s, so they're Their periodic table of elements is quite small at this point.
22:03
SPEAKER_01: I don't even know if they necessarily have one yet.
22:05
SPEAKER_01: I don't even think they're still like figuring out what elements are.
22:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
22:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
22:10
SPEAKER_00: Um, he actually gets a gold medal by the king for his essay on trying to solve problems about urban street lights.
22:17
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
22:18
SPEAKER_00: And about the streetlights, it was more of the chemistry that was going into the science of the lights on the streets.
22:26
SPEAKER_01: The astrophysics of the street.
22:28
SPEAKER_00: The biology of the stuff.
22:30
SPEAKER_01: Okay, perfect.
22:31
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
22:32
SPEAKER_01: Um, and that's what was kind of interesting about Lavoisier is that he obviously is very brilliant.
22:37
SPEAKER_01: He's very good at science and math.
22:39
SPEAKER_01: Um, but one thing that he was really passionate about was really interpreting these things that were going to be used for the public good.
22:47
SPEAKER_01: So, like Megan just said, like he did this essay on like streetlighting improvements, but he was also really consumed with like how to purify water in their area, how to purify the air.
22:57
SPEAKER_01: And this is the 1700s.
22:58
SPEAKER_01: I mean, yeah, like ironically, like we just had Earth Day, right?
23:03
SPEAKER_01: Oh, we perfect lineup for this.
23:05
SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
23:05
SPEAKER_01: It just came to my head.
23:06
SPEAKER_01: Good job.
23:07
SPEAKER_01: But and um, I went to this zero waste workshop thing that we hosted through work, and they talked about like Earth Day and how it didn't even come around until the 1970s, and they were trying to engage a lot of university students, like, hey, this is a problem.
23:20
SPEAKER_01: So here we are, like 1970s finally acknowledging an Earth Day, but here he is in the mid-1700s saying, Hey, like, maybe we should think about stuff like air purification and water purification.
23:33
SPEAKER_00: He designed an aqueduct in 1768 to make it better, right?
23:38
SPEAKER_00: And then it kind of switched over to him being like, Well, how can I just purify this water?
23:43
SPEAKER_00: Because he was worried about the drinking water of his fellow Parisians.
23:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it wasn't just about the aristocrats, it was just about like, you know, the pup the public good.
23:50
SPEAKER_01: Like, how can everyone benefit from these improvements?
23:53
SPEAKER_01: Um, he even looked into like the life of prisoners who lived in prison cells and like ironic.
23:58
SPEAKER_01: I know, foreshadowing.
24:00
SPEAKER_01: Um, but it's like he just was so concerned with the quality of fellow man that he was constantly looking for ways to improve.
24:07
SPEAKER_01: Um so so I thought that was kind of interesting.
24:09
SPEAKER_01: He also did a few other like side projects um besides like the public good kind of works.
24:14
SPEAKER_01: He did things obviously for profit because he's brilliant and he needs to have different streams of income.
24:19
SPEAKER_01: Um, but one thing that he did was he really took on the like quality of tobacco that was being produced.
24:25
SPEAKER_01: And he said, Well, I noticed that a lot of this tobacco is being very like like they've infused a lot of water for a specific reason, but over time that really rots the tobacco and it's not the best.
24:36
SPEAKER_01: So he wanted to like elevate the purification standards of tobacco, which retailers didn't love because he thought he was doing a good thing, but they were like, Well, no, we're like making money selling this like kind of shitty, low-grade, like subpar tobacco.
24:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was like ash and water.
24:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was like, you know, basically a lot of counterfeiters were just giving them to retailers, like, hey, like sell this.
24:56
SPEAKER_01: So they were kind of getting mad at him, like, dude, your the quality doesn't need to be good.
24:59
SPEAKER_01: It's like a shitty weed shop, you know, and they're just like just wanting to say Yeah, they're like, people just want it, okay?
25:06
SPEAKER_01: Don't like go messing with the quality.
25:08
SPEAKER_01: He did the same thing with like agriculture, like he had his plot of land that he would experiment new styles of agriculture with and how to like produce the crops better and make them, I don't know, whatever, like whatever he was trying to accomplish.
25:21
SPEAKER_01: Um, and a lot of these farmers didn't like it because they're like, well, you have more sophisticated means and more money to make these crops better.
25:27
SPEAKER_01: Like, we don't have that, so can you just like leave it alone?
25:31
SPEAKER_01: Um, and then he went about having a commission for the government um about gunpowder and how to produce better gunpowder, which of course he excelled at, and he really helped like the French army produce better gunpowder, which this is kind of funny, but it indirectly led to like them helping the Americans in the revolution, uh having better gunpowder against the English.
25:51
SPEAKER_01: So overall, like he just kept kind of improving the standards of things, like whether it was tobacco, agriculture, gunpowder.
25:56
SPEAKER_01: He just like wanted the quality of everything to be elevated.
26:00
SPEAKER_01: So a lot of a lot of public works uh, you know, that he partook in, and then a lot of stuff just for profit on the side as well.
26:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, he needed to get funded for all of his big scientific experiments.
26:11
SPEAKER_00: Um he also had two different public education he like founded two different public education places where he was a teacher at as well.
26:20
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
26:21
SPEAKER_00: And there were um very rich people who would fund these schools, so he had to get a paycheck somehow because he's doing all these wild and crazy experiments.
26:29
SPEAKER_01: Right.
26:29
SPEAKER_01: He also helped other scientists get funding for their things as well, because again, he had a very comfortable lifestyle.
26:35
SPEAKER_01: Um, so science was really just a fun thing for him to do.
26:38
SPEAKER_01: He didn't really need a whole lot of money to sustain his interest.
26:41
SPEAKER_01: Um, and I think I forget the guy's name, but like one guy who was creating state-of-the-art like instruments or whatever, he like fully funded him so he could have these better, like, laboratory, the better laboratory equipment to do things with.
26:53
SPEAKER_01: So again, he was all about just like let's promote science, let's promote progression, like let's promote, you know, betterment of life in our society.
27:01
SPEAKER_01: Um and then, I mean, I'm sure we'll kind of go into this a little bit later, but at age 26, he bought stock in the General Farm, also card Femme General, if I'm saying that right in French, um, which is a way to basically, it was like a tax operation system.
27:18
SPEAKER_01: It was like a tax farming system.
27:20
SPEAKER_00: But they called it tax farming.
27:22
SPEAKER_00: And for whatever reason, I got really caught up on this.
27:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
27:25
SPEAKER_00: I even asked Jake.
27:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, my husband works in finance, so I thought he would know what this meant, and he didn't have a great answer.
27:32
SPEAKER_00: I literally was thinking, like, oh, maybe if I Google search image tax farming, it'll give like a like a visual of trying to describe this.
27:40
SPEAKER_00: And instead I got a flow chart.
27:42
SPEAKER_00: Instead, I got a picture of these people farming numbers, like like with plows and shovels, like digging up numbers.
27:50
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, that's not helping me.
27:51
SPEAKER_00: Like, there you go.
27:52
SPEAKER_00: Um, farming, tax farming has nothing to do with actual farming.
27:56
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
27:57
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna read the definition of it and then give my interpretation.
28:02
SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't know how accurate that is.
28:04
SPEAKER_00: So um, this says tax farming is a technique of financial management in which the management of a variable revenue stream is assigned by legal contract to a third party and the holder of the revenue stream receives fixed periodic rents from the contractor.
28:20
SPEAKER_00: Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
28:22
SPEAKER_00: So, what I believe this is is he he's basically a tax collector.
28:27
SPEAKER_00: He's like a third party.
28:29
SPEAKER_00: A private individual who collects the taxes, right?
28:32
SPEAKER_00: And he's giving that money to the government, and in payment, he's scraping off a percentage.
28:38
SPEAKER_00: Like a little bit of the top some of that.
28:41
SPEAKER_00: So that sounds right.
28:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
28:44
SPEAKER_00: All in all, he's working for General Farm, which is a part of tax collection, and this is France.
28:50
SPEAKER_00: So we'll see where this takes us.
28:53
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
28:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, it's actually about this time as well that he marries the very beautiful, very lovely Marie Anne Pierrette Palzy.
29:03
SPEAKER_00: Nailed it.
29:03
SPEAKER_00: Did I?
29:04
SPEAKER_00: I think so.
29:04
SPEAKER_00: Are you being sarcastic?
29:05
SPEAKER_00: No, I think that's good.
29:06
SPEAKER_00: Pierret Palsey.
29:08
SPEAKER_00: He was 28.
29:09
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
29:10
SPEAKER_00: She was a sweet, cute little 13-year-old.
29:13
SPEAKER_00: Ooh.
29:14
SPEAKER_00: Did I say that in a creepy way?
29:15
SPEAKER_00: A little.
29:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
29:18
SPEAKER_00: Tender age of 13 years old.
29:20
SPEAKER_00: Tender age of 13.
29:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
29:22
SPEAKER_00: Um, there's a reason why he married her, though.
29:24
SPEAKER_00: And mind you, this was a completely different time period.
29:27
SPEAKER_00: So for us, this is extremely alarming.
29:29
SPEAKER_00: And oh my gosh, report this.
29:30
SPEAKER_00: Right.
29:31
SPEAKER_00: But this was also the times in the 1700s.
29:33
SPEAKER_00: She's a nice childbearing age.
29:36
SPEAKER_00: I guess.
29:37
SPEAKER_00: Loved to have all the kids at 13.
29:39
SPEAKER_00: But actually, I think Antoine was trying to save her because her father, who we should mention, was also a tax collector in similar career of what Antoine was doing.
29:51
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
29:52
SPEAKER_00: Her father worked with a guy, like his boss demanded to marry Marie Ann.
29:59
SPEAKER_00: But this guy was like three times her age.
30:02
SPEAKER_00: This guy's in his 50s or 60s and wanted to marry this 13-year-old.
30:08
SPEAKER_00: And his father, there was like no legal boundaries to this.
30:11
SPEAKER_00: There was nothing like, whoa, you can't fire me if I don't marry my daughter to you.
30:16
SPEAKER_00: But that's what he was threatening.
30:17
SPEAKER_00: He was threatening, well, I'm gonna fire you if you don't let me have your daughter.
30:20
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
30:21
SPEAKER_00: Um, so her dad is like, oh my gosh, I need to think of a creative way around this.
30:25
SPEAKER_00: He turns to his partner, who's Antoine, and he says, Hey, well, will you marry her instead?
30:30
SPEAKER_00: Because it gives me a good reason to be like, oh, sorry, I already have a contract.
30:34
SPEAKER_02: She's already betrothed.
30:34
SPEAKER_00: She's already betrothed.
30:35
SPEAKER_00: To another.
30:36
SPEAKER_00: First come, first serve.
30:37
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
30:38
SPEAKER_00: I was just thinking that episode of not episode, that movie holes.
30:41
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I was thinking of uh Bruno again.
30:43
SPEAKER_01: No, betrothed to another.
30:47
SPEAKER_00: That too.
30:47
SPEAKER_00: No, I'm thinking of holes of holes when it's like the pig situation.
30:52
SPEAKER_00: Like, take that one.
30:54
SPEAKER_01: Anyways, it's true.
30:56
SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, so so he eventually uh you know marries this young 13-year-old girl.
31:02
SPEAKER_00: She actually turns out to be a great contribution to his life, though.
31:05
SPEAKER_01: It's kind of ironic, like that that all happened because she's awesome.
31:08
SPEAKER_00: I actually feel like they're a cute little couple, despite their I mean, maybe if she was of legal age, it'd be cuter.
31:14
SPEAKER_00: But we always think of Marie and Pierre Curie as this scientific chemist couple.
31:22
SPEAKER_00: Power couple.
31:22
SPEAKER_00: Power couple, but hundreds of years before them, there was Marie Ann and Antoine.
31:27
SPEAKER_00: And Marie Ann was very interested in the chemistry work that Antoine was doing.
31:32
SPEAKER_00: She was helping him a ton.
31:34
SPEAKER_00: She was, she actually learned English to translate his um paperwork and his um essays and whatever he was writing.
31:43
SPEAKER_01: And correspond to people in English too, to learn more about you know whatever experiment they were doing.
31:48
SPEAKER_00: She was an amazing artist and she would draw out.
31:51
SPEAKER_00: So Elizabeth had mentioned that he was working with a partner who made this extremely fancy customer like instrument.
31:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, glassware.
31:59
SPEAKER_00: I think like beakers and all that kind of stuff.
32:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
32:02
SPEAKER_00: Um, Marie Ann, who's pretty I mean, even, yeah, she was young, but even deep into their marriage, she was only in her twenties.
32:11
SPEAKER_00: Right.
32:11
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but she was drawing these very elaborate sketches of very like proportionate, specific dimensions of what he needed.
32:19
SPEAKER_00: So he would communicate to her, I need this, this, and this.
32:21
SPEAKER_00: And she had these like beautiful sketches describing what she needed.
32:25
SPEAKER_00: True to life sketches.
32:26
SPEAKER_00: Um, so I I I really like this chick.
32:28
SPEAKER_00: She's kind of cool.
32:29
SPEAKER_01: They also had no children, too.
32:31
SPEAKER_01: So she wasn't like consumed with raising children and having a family and like all the traditional things wives did.
32:37
SPEAKER_01: She was like, No, I'm helping you in your lab.
32:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, which makes me think also, like, Antoine's not that terrible of a guy for marrying a 13-year-old.
32:44
SPEAKER_00: Right.
32:44
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it is.
32:45
SPEAKER_00: Who knows if they wouldn't consummated the marriage for a while?
32:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
32:48
SPEAKER_00: It sounded like they had more of a partnership than anything, and he wasn't expecting her to be childbearing and whatever.
32:54
SPEAKER_01: Like subservient wife.
32:55
SPEAKER_01: He was like, Okay, great, you can help me in the lab.
32:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, cool.
32:57
SPEAKER_01: I've got an assistant.
32:59
SPEAKER_01: And she's extremely intelligent and very capable and understood a lot of his work.
33:02
SPEAKER_00: You know, I mean, this might just be child labor now that I think about it.
33:06
SPEAKER_01: With the marriage contract, but no, I think she's um I think she's smart and ready for that.
33:12
SPEAKER_00: The portraits of them made them look very happy together.
33:14
SPEAKER_01: You look very cute.
33:15
SPEAKER_01: So we saw one documentary that was just the same like portrait in different like perspectives over and over again.
33:22
SPEAKER_01: It was like zoom in on her face, zoom in on his face, zoom in on both of them, zoom in on her hair.
33:27
SPEAKER_00: Eight-minute documentary with the same picture.
33:30
SPEAKER_00: I was like, you can't look at it, Megan, you just have to listen to the words.
33:34
SPEAKER_01: Um, but anyway, so they have this very happy marriage, and uh he goes on to obviously well, I should say they, because very much partnership, but he's obviously spearheading this.
33:44
SPEAKER_01: But he goes on to do a lot for the scientific and mostly, you know, uh chemistry community.
33:51
SPEAKER_01: So a few things that he did um was he really was into um sorry pour the wine in the bottom.
33:58
SPEAKER_01: Into the science.
33:59
SPEAKER_01: I need some wine.
34:00
SPEAKER_01: Here's the science we're gonna use.
34:02
SPEAKER_01: You also can have some wine and zone out if you'd like.
34:05
SPEAKER_01: No, but uh so so some things that he did, and Megan alluded to this earlier, but before his era of uh of science, people still thought the elements were like the elements that Aristotle had back in the era of the Greeks.
34:20
SPEAKER_01: So they thought the main elements were literally like air, fire, water, earth.
34:26
SPEAKER_01: Like they didn't understand that anything got smaller than those things.
34:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, earth, wind, and fire.
34:32
SPEAKER_01: So so they literally thought like those are the like smallest elements that we have on earth, and it was just about studying those elements.
34:39
SPEAKER_01: So chemistry in this era didn't really have a lot of things uh that made the science quantitative.
34:45
SPEAKER_01: Everything was qualitative.
34:46
SPEAKER_01: It was about what you saw and what you experienced in these experiments.
34:50
SPEAKER_01: It wasn't a lot of like numbers involved, you know.
34:53
SPEAKER_01: But here comes Antoine, and he is basically doing what Isaac Newton did for physics.
35:00
SPEAKER_01: So he is doing these things to chemistry.
35:02
SPEAKER_01: He's quantifying it, he's making certain laws of chemistry.
35:05
SPEAKER_01: So he comes along and says, I think these elements can be broken down further.
35:10
SPEAKER_01: And I think there's actually specific things we can understand about each of these, he's calling them now compounds.
35:16
SPEAKER_01: Like this isn't just air, and this isn't just water.
35:19
SPEAKER_01: Like maybe we can break this down into smaller pieces.
35:23
SPEAKER_01: So he goes along, he basically helps discover oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, and he's named I know those ones.
35:31
SPEAKER_01: I know.
35:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're on the they're on the periodic table.
35:34
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, I mean this was already, again, some other scientists were already kind of thinking these things, so he can't be credited for discovering them, but he named them for sure.
35:43
SPEAKER_01: And again, he helps really fill out the nomenclature of these chemical compounds and these chemical substances.
35:50
SPEAKER_01: So he, you know, creates this whole system uh of of naming these new things that they're discovering.
35:56
SPEAKER_01: Um, and again, compared to just air, fire, water, like this is very advanced.
36:01
SPEAKER_00: It's called earth, wind, and fire.
36:03
SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
36:03
SPEAKER_00: I keep a set in that order.
36:06
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, that was disturbing.
36:07
SPEAKER_01: I keep uh Earth, Wind and Fire.
36:11
SPEAKER_01: Um, so so he starts like again getting deep into uh studying combustion and stu studying respiration.
36:19
SPEAKER_01: Um, and so he's looking for for ways to battle this theory that's called the phlogiston theory.
36:27
SPEAKER_01: So, and just to again not to get too technical, but basically before him, phlogiston was a thing that was thought to be a part of things that burn.
36:37
SPEAKER_01: So all these scientists were like, well, anything that you have that burns has phlogiston in it.
36:42
SPEAKER_01: So when you burn it, this like dissolves into the atmosphere, and that's the phlogiston burning off of it.
36:49
SPEAKER_01: And he was the first one to say that's not real.
36:51
SPEAKER_01: Like whatever you're thinking is happening is not uh what's actually going on.
36:55
SPEAKER_01: This is like a chemical reaction that's happening, you know, this is burning, but no matter is being created or destroyed during this chemical reaction.
37:04
SPEAKER_01: Thus comes the conservation of mass theory.
37:07
SPEAKER_01: So he again has already decided like the nomenclature of these things.
37:11
SPEAKER_01: He then creates the conservation of mass theory.
37:14
SPEAKER_01: He um completely battles this whole phlogiston theory, um, and then he just goes into deeper theories of uh again, oxygenation, comb oxygenation, combustion, and respiration.
37:26
SPEAKER_01: So he gets really deep into all of this, um, and this is where we stand once the revolution breaks out.
37:34
SPEAKER_00: Oh, is it my turn?
37:35
SPEAKER_00: Oh, sure, yeah.
37:36
SPEAKER_00: You can go.
37:36
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, I fell asleeper.
37:39
SPEAKER_01: I know, it's a it's very compelling.
37:41
SPEAKER_01: No, but just so you guys know what he did.
37:42
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it was he was the father of modern chemistry.
37:46
SPEAKER_01: It went from a very archaic thing that you couldn't really qualitate to now, like, wow, like we understand far more about you know chemical substances and chemical compounds.
37:55
SPEAKER_00: He wrote a book.
37:56
SPEAKER_00: And he wrote a book.
37:57
SPEAKER_00: He wrote what they consider the first chemistry book called Elements of Chemistry in 1789.
38:03
SPEAKER_01: That's a very sophisticated name.
38:05
SPEAKER_00: Okay, back to the fun stuff.
38:08
SPEAKER_00: No, I'm just teasing that's fine.
38:09
SPEAKER_01: Back to the blood and the gore and the revolution, the French Revolution.
38:14
SPEAKER_00: So the French Revolution, as we've discussed before, it came down to wanting to break down the socialite classes.
38:20
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
38:21
SPEAKER_00: The French people were sick and tired of the top percentage of the elites taking control over everything and ruling how they lived, and there was more poor people than like 80% of the population is like poor people, the third caste.
38:35
SPEAKER_00: Um, and Antoine was actually a supporter of the French Revolution.
38:39
SPEAKER_00: Uh he him and his wife.
38:41
SPEAKER_00: Yes, they both were.
38:42
SPEAKER_00: They com he commissioned the royal gunpowder, and he was worked with I mean, King Louis was probably very happy for him because he used his science and his chemistry, and he created better gunpowder in an effort to supply like France.
39:01
SPEAKER_00: So I don't know, he was doing things to help.
39:03
SPEAKER_01: Right.
39:04
SPEAKER_01: Um well he also created the the metrics, well, not created, he implemented the metric system in this era too, so that way France could have kind of uh, I guess, better foreign relations and understand things more on a global scale.
39:17
SPEAKER_00: Amongst the French Revolution, which started in about 1789, the reign of terror also kicked in.
39:25
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
39:26
SPEAKER_00: Reign of terror sounds very scary.
39:28
SPEAKER_00: And it was it is fucking.
39:29
SPEAKER_00: It was freaking scary.
39:32
SPEAKER_00: So this was a group that they called themselves the Committee of Safety, and they were radical, very leftist, very extreme French Revolution supporters.
39:44
SPEAKER_00: Right.
39:45
SPEAKER_00: And their approach was they were going to protect all of their Parisian fellow citizens from anybody who was not supporting the French Revolution.
39:54
SPEAKER_00: Or even questioned it.
39:56
SPEAKER_00: Which sounds nice.
39:57
SPEAKER_00: Like, okay, they're really supporting our cause and they're trying to make it a better place for us.
40:02
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
40:03
SPEAKER_00: Their idea of how to protect people, this safety committee, was by creating mass bloodshed through arrest and execution.
40:11
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
40:12
SPEAKER_01: Because that's like the only way they thought they were inspiring hope was this kind of extremism.
40:17
SPEAKER_01: And you're like, that maybe.
40:19
SPEAKER_00: And when we talk extremism, it is anybody with us the smallest bit of doubt who could like roll their eyes at someone who says, like, go for a revolution.
40:32
SPEAKER_00: They like roll their eyes literally off with their head.
40:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
40:35
SPEAKER_00: I don't even get how they were like getting permission to just arrest and execute.
40:39
SPEAKER_01: But they really didn't have any evidence for a lot of people.
40:42
SPEAKER_01: And it reminds me a little bit of Salem witch trials, which if you visit that in episode or episode two, season one.
40:48
SPEAKER_01: Oh god, way back.
40:49
SPEAKER_01: Way back.
40:50
SPEAKER_01: But I mean, we talked about in that episode how we thought there was more people like who were convicted and tried as witches when it wasn't that many.
40:58
SPEAKER_01: But this to me is like crazy witch.
41:01
SPEAKER_00: Salem witch trials, there was 19 people who were executed.
41:04
SPEAKER_00: Right.
41:06
SPEAKER_00: You want to say how many were executed?
41:07
SPEAKER_00: Sure, I know you were gonna save it, but Reign of Terror, 17,000 people were executed in a year.
41:16
SPEAKER_00: In a year.
41:17
SPEAKER_00: 17,000 people were executed in a year.
41:21
SPEAKER_00: Like just let that soak it.
41:23
SPEAKER_00: What's a good comparison of 17,000?
41:25
SPEAKER_01: I was just thinking of that, and I was just thinking of like my high school.
41:29
SPEAKER_00: Oh god, no, my high school's like four thousand four Okay, so this is four of your high schools.
41:34
SPEAKER_00: Not even.
41:35
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
41:35
SPEAKER_00: There was I don't even know how many people were in my high school.
41:38
SPEAKER_01: In one year.
41:39
SPEAKER_00: What's like a town of 17,000 people?
41:42
SPEAKER_01: Well, I don't know that.
41:44
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
41:45
SPEAKER_00: Someone has a town someplace with seventeen.
41:47
SPEAKER_01: Like half of a baseball stadium in the US is about 17,000.
41:51
SPEAKER_01: Just imagine all of them being executed in a year.
41:53
SPEAKER_01: In a year.
41:54
SPEAKER_01: Like one after another.
41:56
SPEAKER_00: The French Revolution, uh, obviously the guillotine was a big player in this, so they made it an extremely efficient process.
42:04
SPEAKER_00: These, if we can even call them trials, it was like get her get her done.
42:09
SPEAKER_00: Like trial, like neighbor being like kind of like she's a witch, like she's you know, against the French Revolution, men, women didn't matter.
42:19
SPEAKER_00: Um, they were arrested, they were executed within hours in a very public form to like promote this, like, yeah, we got 'em, like we're gonna get rid of all these people.
42:27
SPEAKER_00: Right.
42:28
SPEAKER_00: And it really was a a period of terror.
42:31
SPEAKER_00: Um, but anybody who was, in their perspective, anybody who was against the rising power of the lower class, right, which included tax collection.
42:41
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
42:42
SPEAKER_01: It included um the firm General, which we talked about.
42:45
SPEAKER_01: Um, they were forced to disband in March of 1791.
42:49
SPEAKER_01: And by 1792, uh, you know, our our main guy, Levassier, he had to resign from his gunpowder commission because they were just going after, again, anyone who was part of the tax collection collection um squad because they thought this was fraudulent and they thought this they were being taken advantage of.
43:07
SPEAKER_01: Um, and then anyone again who was involved in these big government like uh commission type things.
43:12
SPEAKER_00: But even uh some of it was just used as like, I don't like this person.
43:16
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
43:17
SPEAKER_00: Like it could be somebody who overheard somebody in a pub who said something and they're like, you know, that guy's been on my nerves since 1753.
43:27
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna get him.
43:28
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna just call him out and say he's against the French Revolution.
43:32
SPEAKER_00: He said one thing against it, off with his head.
43:35
SPEAKER_01: Off with his head.
43:36
SPEAKER_00: Crazy.
43:37
SPEAKER_01: And again, in this era of the official executions, you didn't have a lot of time to really deliberate.
43:44
unknown: Yeah.
43:44
SPEAKER_00: It was quick.
43:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
43:46
SPEAKER_01: Um, so by 1793, in November, all of the former tax farmers or tax collectors were arrested.
43:56
SPEAKER_01: Um, it was around the same time that they disbanded the Academy of Sciences as well.
44:00
SPEAKER_01: Which is very ironic that they would go after, I don't know, this institution of science.
44:03
SPEAKER_01: Like, what does that have to do with anyone who's kind of trying to screw over the population?
44:07
SPEAKER_00: They would support that unless they thought that the scientists were elites and I think that's what it was.
44:12
SPEAKER_01: I think it didn't matter.
44:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
44:14
SPEAKER_01: I think at this point it didn't matter what you did if you were considered part of the 1%, part of the scholars, even the priests that they, you know, they were six percent of the clergy.
44:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like exactly the clergy, like anyone that they thought was of elevated status.
44:27
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, not six percent of the clergy.
44:29
SPEAKER_01: Six percent of the people executed.
44:31
SPEAKER_00: Six percent, yeah, six percent of the seventeen thousand.
44:33
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
44:33
SPEAKER_00: But also, like eighty percent of them were also peasants.
44:37
SPEAKER_01: Peasants.
44:38
SPEAKER_01: So they yeah, they went after you regardless of status.
44:41
SPEAKER_01: Um they just killed everybody, but they were yeah, but they were really targeting the aristocrats.
44:46
SPEAKER_01: Um so so they uh you know went ahead, they rounded up all of these um former tax farmers and they said, Hey, like we're accusing you of basically fraudulently taking our money, you're defrauding the state.
44:58
SPEAKER_01: Um and so on the day that they decided that Lavoisier was guilty, they actually also rounded up about 27 of his co-defendants.
45:08
SPEAKER_00: One of his co-defendants was his wife, Marie Ann, it was her dad.
45:13
SPEAKER_00: It was her dad.
45:14
SPEAKER_00: Which, as we know, was also a a fellow tax collector.
45:18
SPEAKER_01: I wonder if the guy who originally tried to marry her was also in that batch because they worked together.
45:22
SPEAKER_00: No, he was old.
45:23
SPEAKER_01: He died before they died.
45:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
45:26
SPEAKER_01: Um, and so Lavoisier is about 50 at this point.
45:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
45:31
SPEAKER_01: Um, but so it's May 8th, 1794, and they decide in a very, very short amount of time, you are all guilty, you are all ex-tax collectors, you are treasonous, and you're going to be killed at the guillotine.
45:45
SPEAKER_00: 27 all at once.
45:47
SPEAKER_01: That's ridiculous.
45:48
SPEAKER_01: And he even tries to kind of appeal for his life, Lavoisier, and he says something along the lines of, hey, like, you know, you the Republic needs like me, they need scholars, they need, they need people that are uh, you know, going to advance the state.
46:04
SPEAKER_01: Like I'm trying to hear, I'm trying to be here to help you for the public good.
46:08
SPEAKER_01: And it was said, this is as legend tells it, but on that day, the judge who was overseeing his quote unquote trial, which who knows that's not even really a trial, but who was overseeing this, he said, the republic needs neither scholars nor chemists.
46:23
SPEAKER_01: The course of justice cannot be delayed.
46:26
SPEAKER_01: So he's just like, F you, buddy, we don't care that you literally're smart, you're trying, and it's he's not just smart and he's not just elite.
46:33
SPEAKER_01: Like he's trying to improve the way of life for a lot of people.
46:35
SPEAKER_01: He's only 50 years old.
46:36
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
46:37
SPEAKER_01: You know, the things he could have done with the rest of his time on Earth.
46:40
SPEAKER_01: Um, so so it was an extremely sad day where him and 27 of his compatriots.
46:46
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think the saddest the victim of all this was Marie Ann, because she watched her dad and her husband get executed on the same day.
46:54
SPEAKER_01: And there's not a lot of pomp and circumstance to these executions, like a lot of them that we cover.
46:58
SPEAKER_01: It's a quick, efficient, it's very fast.
47:00
SPEAKER_00: There's no big speech.
47:02
SPEAKER_01: Like Sophie Shoel.
47:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and we've described this before, but the way I I think there's like this misconception that the guillotine would like they would kneel into and stick their head in.
47:13
SPEAKER_00: That that wasn't the case.
47:14
SPEAKER_00: There was a plank board, yeah, a plank that would swivel upright.
47:18
SPEAKER_00: Right.
47:18
SPEAKER_00: They would stand up against it uh with their chest up against it, right?
47:22
SPEAKER_00: They'd be strapped down, and then they would flip the board lateral and slide it forward.
47:28
SPEAKER_00: Right.
47:29
SPEAKER_00: And then their head goes in.
47:30
SPEAKER_00: So they're laying down on a plank with their limbs tied behind them.
47:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
47:35
SPEAKER_00: And it was honestly the whole thing was maybe 20 seconds.
47:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so quick.
47:40
SPEAKER_01: And again, you're just going one after another.
47:42
SPEAKER_01: They're not taking the time to clean up after, you know, they're before after the person in front of you.
47:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
47:48
SPEAKER_01: And they're just probably ahead of baskets.
47:50
SPEAKER_01: And it's or sorry.
47:51
SPEAKER_00: I'm saying everything wrong right now.
47:53
SPEAKER_00: A basket of heads.
47:54
SPEAKER_00: No, I'm following you.
47:54
SPEAKER_00: I'm excited.
47:55
SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
47:56
SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, so it's the basket of heads that you're just looking down on.
47:59
SPEAKER_00: You know, and they're just that would have been a cool name for our podcast, Basket of Heads.
48:04
SPEAKER_00: Basket of Heads.
48:05
SPEAKER_01: Maybe not.
48:06
SPEAKER_01: Maybe we do merch and the front says beheaded and the back says basket of heads.
48:11
SPEAKER_00: I think that's how we don't make friends.
48:14
SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah, some people might be a little turned off.
48:16
SPEAKER_00: I think the right people come forward.
48:18
SPEAKER_00: My car license plate already says don't lose your head.
48:21
SPEAKER_00: I need that.
48:22
SPEAKER_01: I've you had anyone complain?
48:25
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if it's my driving or if it's the license plate.
48:29
SPEAKER_00: Some battle hunk.
48:30
SPEAKER_01: Anyways.
48:31
SPEAKER_01: Um, and so one other thing that was said right after uh his death was a mathematician named Lagrange came forward and said, it took them only an instant to cut off his head.
48:44
SPEAKER_01: One hundred years might not suffice to reproduce its like.
48:48
SPEAKER_01: And I think that is true.
48:49
SPEAKER_01: It's like, again, like we just said, I mean, who knows what he could have gone gone to do after this execution.
48:54
SPEAKER_01: He was he wasn't that old.
48:56
SPEAKER_00: He wasn't.
48:57
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he was younger than Sandra Bullock.
49:03
SPEAKER_00: She's thriving.
49:04
SPEAKER_01: And she's thriving.
49:05
SPEAKER_01: She's still making movies with the two most handsome men on the planet.
49:08
SPEAKER_01: Seriously.
49:09
SPEAKER_01: Good for her.
49:10
SPEAKER_01: Um to think what you could have gone on to do.
49:15
SPEAKER_00: It gets worse.
49:16
unknown: Hold on.
49:17
SPEAKER_02: It gets worse.
49:18
SPEAKER_00: So one year later, yeah, all these men are pardoned.
49:23
SPEAKER_00: Pardoned, which is exonerating.
49:26
SPEAKER_00: Like, I get it, it's for the family.
49:28
SPEAKER_00: I get it, it's for people to like not have their name, like defamation on their name, like Johnny Depp.
49:34
SPEAKER_00: Like, I get it.
49:36
SPEAKER_00: It's to make the family feel better.
49:39
SPEAKER_00: But really, it's like adding salt in the wounds.
49:42
SPEAKER_00: Like, oh, cool.
49:43
SPEAKER_00: So you agree he's innocent after you've cut his head off.
49:46
SPEAKER_01: I know.
49:46
SPEAKER_01: And like, I'm sorry, doesn't history tell you the opposite always?
49:51
SPEAKER_01: Like, how many episodes of this, you know, podcast have we done where it's like, and a year later they were pardoned?
49:57
SPEAKER_01: Like, oh, and two years later they reopened the investigation and they're fine now.
50:01
SPEAKER_01: And like, oh now they're they're martyrs, they're Catholic martyrs, they're Protestant martyrs.
50:05
SPEAKER_00: It's like that would be my only thing.
50:07
SPEAKER_00: Like we haven't learned going if if I were ever tried for something and I had to be publicly executed, hopefully not.
50:14
SPEAKER_00: Well, my only good faith is like, if I knew in my heart that I was fighting for something, like hopefully I will be seen as a hero down the road.
50:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that could happen.
50:25
SPEAKER_01: I think all of us should go into our end of life thinking that.
50:28
SPEAKER_01: You know, it's like fight for the causes you believe in, and maybe one day your name will be on the Eiffel Tower.
50:35
SPEAKER_00: I funny enough.
50:36
SPEAKER_00: Did you see that?
50:37
SPEAKER_00: Is it?
50:37
SPEAKER_00: Is this name on the Eiffel Tower?
50:39
SPEAKER_01: That's what it said.
50:39
SPEAKER_01: It said that him and a lot of the people in his era, like sp specifically like mathematicians or people, people of science, were all their names were inscripted on the Eiffel Tower.
50:48
SPEAKER_00: Well, when I go to Paris, and gosh, next month, yeah, so soon, I will take a look for that.
50:55
SPEAKER_01: Take a picture.
50:55
SPEAKER_00: Um, he his remains are also buried in the catacombs.
50:59
SPEAKER_01: That makes me really jealous.
51:00
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if I can go and find it or if it's just a skull buried with the rest of them.
51:05
SPEAKER_00: You'll know the skull.
51:06
SPEAKER_01: You'll see the skull and you'll know.
51:07
SPEAKER_00: I'll ask around.
51:09
SPEAKER_00: Excuse me, Le Bossier.
51:11
SPEAKER_00: Just look at it.
51:12
SPEAKER_00: Antoine, is that to you?
51:13
SPEAKER_00: Bonjour uh Le Bossier.
51:16
SPEAKER_00: And just point around.
51:17
SPEAKER_00: This is crazy, budget.
51:18
SPEAKER_00: And then I'll pass out our beheaded business cards.
51:21
SPEAKER_01: And then you'll be removed for soliciting, probably.
51:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man, even in Paris.
51:28
SPEAKER_01: I know.
51:29
SPEAKER_00: Um, also, fun fact.
51:31
SPEAKER_00: Yes, there was a statue put up of him, but the artist This is great.
51:37
SPEAKER_00: The artist used like someone else's face.
51:40
SPEAKER_00: That's weird.
51:41
SPEAKER_00: Like why would they do that?
51:42
SPEAKER_00: It didn't even look like him, but then it um it was destroyed in what, World War II or one.
51:47
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so it's not there anymore.
51:49
SPEAKER_00: But at one point there was a statue of him that was not him.
51:53
SPEAKER_00: I'd be a little pissed about that.
51:55
SPEAKER_01: Look at this beautiful statue of Elizabeth Black.
51:57
SPEAKER_01: It's not her.
51:59
SPEAKER_00: He invented oxygen.
52:01
SPEAKER_01: He didn't invent oxygen.
52:04
SPEAKER_00: He's the reason we breathe.
52:05
SPEAKER_01: He named oxygen.
52:06
SPEAKER_01: He's the reason we breathe.
52:08
SPEAKER_01: We have life.
52:09
SPEAKER_00: I'm getting goofy.
52:10
SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
52:11
SPEAKER_00: No.
52:12
SPEAKER_01: Um, but really quick, Marie Ann, his widow at this point, um, she went on to really like, you know, still kind of move forward with of his uh, you know, scientific papers.
52:24
SPEAKER_01: He she went on to publish some things that he had written like years after his death.
52:28
SPEAKER_00: Only in like her early 30s.
52:29
SPEAKER_01: I was gonna say she was thriving.
52:31
SPEAKER_01: She married another scientist later.
52:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I'm sure she again like kind of lived out the rest of their dreams and did everything that she wanted to do.
52:40
SPEAKER_01: And it that's I mean, you know, that's hard to do after you literally, I don't know if she witnessed it, I imagine she did, but witnessed her husband and father guillotined on the same day.
52:48
SPEAKER_00: Like, she could get there in time, they did it all so fast.
52:51
SPEAKER_00: That's true.
52:51
SPEAKER_00: She's like, Wait, I missed it?
52:53
SPEAKER_00: She probably got the message late.
52:54
SPEAKER_00: I was having a coffee at the cafe across the street.
52:57
SPEAKER_00: Like, uh, ma'am, yeah, it's already done with.
52:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
52:59
SPEAKER_00: They arrested, tried him.
53:01
SPEAKER_00: She's like executed.
53:02
SPEAKER_01: Great.
53:02
SPEAKER_01: What other scientists in this town could I marry?
53:05
SPEAKER_01: Uh sad.
53:06
SPEAKER_01: But to again talk about the numbers a little bit more, and we did discuss the number 17,000 already.
53:12
SPEAKER_01: But in the reign of terror, 17,000 people were executed.
53:15
SPEAKER_01: And again, just about a year, 500,000 were arrested, which is wild.
53:22
SPEAKER_01: And another 10,000 died in prison, like awaiting execution or awaiting trial, which most of them didn't even have trials.
53:29
SPEAKER_00: Because they wouldn't listen to Antoine's prison hygiene recommendations.
53:34
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
53:35
SPEAKER_00: He could have changed the world.
53:37
SPEAKER_00: He could have changed all these prisoners.
53:39
SPEAKER_02: It makes me a little sad.
53:40
SPEAKER_00: It does.
53:41
SPEAKER_02: But chemistry is thriving.
53:44
SPEAKER_02: But chemistry's doing real well right now.
53:46
SPEAKER_02: Chemistry's on the high right now.
53:48
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you know much about chemistry, but it's doing good.
53:50
SPEAKER_00: It's come a far away.
53:52
SPEAKER_01: But you know, it's just one of those things that makes you sad because it's like he, you know, no matter what you do, like you just because you were born of privilege or whatever, high, I don't know, I don't want to say high class, but it's like he went on to become a very intelligent person.
54:05
SPEAKER_01: And he's trying to do things for the public good, and they're still like, eh, F you, bro.
54:09
SPEAKER_01: Here's the guillotine.
54:10
SPEAKER_01: So what you're saying I'm saying don't do anything nice for anyone ever.
54:14
SPEAKER_00: It doesn't matter, is what I just heard.
54:16
SPEAKER_00: You're gonna get beheaded anyways.
54:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's gonna happen.
54:19
SPEAKER_00: Elizabeth, as you're pouring your wine on that note, any final words.
54:23
SPEAKER_01: No, fuck you.