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EP364: Orrin "Checkmate" Hudson - One Move at a Time · Respark Your Life

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Orrin Hudson: I use chess as a metaphor to teach young people to not do the first thing that pops in your head.
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Orrin Hudson: The first thing that pops in your head is usually a trap. So I teach six magic words.
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Orrin Hudson: Take time to think things through. Your first crack at anything is never your best.
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Orrin Hudson: Things take time to manifest and you gotta have time and grades.
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Raymond Aaron: Hello, this is Raymond Aaron, New York Times Top 10 bestselling author, bringing you Respark Your Life podcast, the world's premier podcast to ignite the fire to allow you to live life on your own terms.
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Raymond Aaron: Yes, this is Raymond Aaron, the founder and interviewer of re-spark your life.
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Raymond Aaron: And though I like to bring my world famous friends, what I really like is to bring you
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Raymond Aaron: stealth wisdom that you couldn't find out about anywhere else.
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Raymond Aaron: And today I'm beyond, beyond overjoyed to bring you someone that I love, I respect, I admire,
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Raymond Aaron: I look up to from the very first minute I met him.
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Raymond Aaron: And you may not know him, but at the end of this interview, you will never forget him.
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Raymond Aaron: His name is Oren Hudson, but he calls himself Oren Checkmate Hudson.
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Raymond Aaron: Why?
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Raymond Aaron: Because somehow he got the message that he should take underserved and underprivileged kids who were in the worst jeopardy of getting into trouble with gangs, with guns, with drugs.
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Raymond Aaron: And he took it upon himself to save them.
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Raymond Aaron: How?
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Raymond Aaron: By teaching them chess.
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Raymond Aaron: Now, I want you to think of underprivileged kids in the worst neighborhoods of America and try to tell them, go to school every single day, go to every single class, pass every single subject.
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Raymond Aaron: Don't swear.
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Raymond Aaron: Don't do drugs.
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Raymond Aaron: Don't join gangs.
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Raymond Aaron: And if you do all of that, I'll teach you chess.
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Raymond Aaron: You might say, the guy's nuts.
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Raymond Aaron: No kid would agree to that.
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Raymond Aaron: And yet, he's saved thousands of lives.
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Raymond Aaron: Thousands.
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Raymond Aaron: He saved them from drugs and gangs and guns.
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Raymond Aaron: And as a result, he's won more awards than anyone I know.
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Raymond Aaron: Anyone.
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Raymond Aaron: The Toastmasters Community Leadership Award, the Nonprofit Trinity Award, and the biggest
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Raymond Aaron: one in the whole list, the FBI Distinguished Community Leader Award, and the National
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Raymond Aaron: Dr. Martin Luther King Award, Toastmasters International Communication and Leadership
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Raymond Aaron: Award.
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Raymond Aaron: And the list goes on and on for pages, because as soon as people hear what he does, they are so deeply moved, as was I when I bumped into him.
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Raymond Aaron: And I've loved this guy for decades.
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Raymond Aaron: He knows all of my world famous friends like Les Brown.
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Raymond Aaron: And I am bringing him to you.
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Raymond Aaron: Stay tuned.
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Raymond Aaron: I know that sometimes when you're listening to a podcast, you can be distracted and do other things.
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Raymond Aaron: But don't do that. Don't do that to Oren Checkmate Hudson, my guest.
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Raymond Aaron: Oren, are you on the air?
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Orrin Hudson: Yes, sir. I'm here, Dr. Raymond.
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Raymond Aaron: Wow. I love you to call me doctor. That's okay. That's okay. You can if you wish.
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Raymond Aaron: So, Oren, tell us about this amazing service that you provide.
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Orrin Hudson: Well, first of all, let me clarify what the word doctor means.
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Orrin Hudson: Doctor means teacher, and you're the best teacher I've ever met.
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Orrin Hudson: I met you when you were on stage with Donald Trump and you beat everybody out.
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Orrin Hudson: You were having people laughing and you were doing it at the George World Hunger Center.
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Orrin Hudson: I don't know if you remember that.
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Orrin Hudson: That was about a while back.
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Orrin Hudson: You and Donald Trump was on stage and you told the house down because you did your thing.
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Orrin Hudson: You had everybody laughing.
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Orrin Hudson: You are the best when it comes to PowerPoint and making people laugh.
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Orrin Hudson: So I praise you for that.
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Raymond Aaron: Thank you.
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Raymond Aaron: Now let's talk about you.
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Orrin Hudson: Well, I use chess as a metaphor to teach young people to not do the first thing that pops in your head.
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Orrin Hudson: The first thing that pops in your head is usually a trap.
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Orrin Hudson: So I teach six magic words.
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Orrin Hudson: Take time to think things through.
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Orrin Hudson: Got it.
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Raymond Aaron: Because the first move may not be the best move.
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Orrin Hudson: It may not be.
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Orrin Hudson: The computer will say, make this move, make this move, make this move.
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Orrin Hudson: And then after a few minutes, the computer said, no, don't make that move.
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Orrin Hudson: If I make that move, I lose 15 moves down the road.
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Orrin Hudson: The computer would change his mind because he'd see a better move.
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Orrin Hudson: I was doing something the other day on AI.
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Orrin Hudson: And AI made some mistakes.
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Orrin Hudson: You made a mistake.
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Orrin Hudson: And it said, okay, give me more time to think.
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Orrin Hudson: And the thing said, need more time to think.
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Orrin Hudson: So the longer it thinks, the better the answer is.
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Orrin Hudson: So what am I teaching children?
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Orrin Hudson: I'm teaching children your first crack at anything.
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Orrin Hudson: It's never your best.
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Orrin Hudson: Michael Jordan, his first crack at basketball, he got cut.
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Orrin Hudson: Wow.
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Orrin Hudson: Yeah, so things take time to manifest, and you've got to have time and grade.
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Orrin Hudson: Time and grade means I've been doing this a minute, so I've been here, done that.
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Orrin Hudson: I got the T-shirt, so I show children how to navigate through the complexities of life and how to make the next move the best move.
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Raymond Aaron: I want you to give me an example. Think of a particular young person, boy or girl, tell me their situation. Tell me about their parenting or their home life and their school life and their gangs or guns or whatever. And tell me exactly what happened. Tell me about their winning awards going to other cities and winning chess tournaments. Tell us a wonderful example.
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Orrin Hudson: Well, his name is Aaron Porter. The judge gave him one more chance to get his life together because he was in school and he came home one day.
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Orrin Hudson: His dad, who'd been locked up for 16 years, was back home. And him and his dad got in an argument, got in a fight.
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Orrin Hudson: And the judge charged him with attempted murder on his own father.
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Orrin Hudson: And the judge gave him one more chance to get his life together.
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Orrin Hudson: And they reached out to me and said, Warren, can you come over and help work with this kid?
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Orrin Hudson: And I came over and coached him.
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Orrin Hudson: And we spent a lot of time together and training.
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Orrin Hudson: And we traveled to another city, which is about two hours from Atlanta to Augusta, Georgia.
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Orrin Hudson: And we brought back the state championship.
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Orrin Hudson: It wasn't easy because when we got there, Aaron Porter lost his queen in the match.
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Orrin Hudson: But what we teach is you don't lose the game when the pawn takes your queen.
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Orrin Hudson: You lose the game when the king falls.
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Orrin Hudson: And so even though he lost his queen, remember what we teach in class,
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Orrin Hudson: don't focus on what you lost.
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Orrin Hudson: Focus on what you have left and don't look back and keep it moving
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Orrin Hudson: at the end of the winter state championship.
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Orrin Hudson: So Aaron Porter, almost with Adele,
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Orrin Hudson: attempted murder on his own father.
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Orrin Hudson: We turned this life around.
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Orrin Hudson: And I'm living my dream because teaching children
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Orrin Hudson: to think makes my heart sing.
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Raymond Aaron: Wow.
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Raymond Aaron: Well, I love teaching also.
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Raymond Aaron: But you are teaching at such a greater depth.
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Raymond Aaron: Chess is just the game that you use to teach them life.
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Raymond Aaron: And what an amazing, where'd you get this idea?
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Orrin Hudson: Well, I'm going to be honest with you.
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Orrin Hudson: I was a gang member in my teens.
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Orrin Hudson: I was 14 years old.
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Orrin Hudson: And a teacher pulled Me to the side and said, listen, Oren,
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Orrin Hudson: he said, you're following the follower.
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Orrin Hudson: I said what do you mean?
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Orrin Hudson: He said you're doing everything they say doing.
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Orrin Hudson: I was.
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Orrin Hudson: They say do this, you do it.
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Orrin Hudson: They say do this, you do it.
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Orrin Hudson: I was following the follower.
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Orrin Hudson: He said I'm going to teach you how to think independently,
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Orrin Hudson: how to think for yourself I said what do you mean?
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Orrin Hudson: He said I'm going to teach you chess.
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Orrin Hudson: I said wait a minute.
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Orrin Hudson: I'm a Checker guru
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Orrin Hudson: I'm the hometown Checker guru
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Orrin Hudson: He said Checkers
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Orrin Hudson: He said Checkers are using half on the board
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Orrin Hudson: He said Checkers
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Orrin Hudson: He said Yeah it's half on the board
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Orrin Hudson: He said Chess are using every
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Orrin Hudson: single square on the board
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Orrin Hudson: He said Checkers
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Orrin Hudson: is all men
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Orrin Hudson: He said Chess the queen
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Orrin Hudson: is most powerful piece on the board
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Orrin Hudson: I said let's get on with the classes
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Raymond Aaron: Alright
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Raymond Aaron: a teacher redirected your life.
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Orrin Hudson: I owe my life to James Edge,
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Orrin Hudson: a white teacher in an all-black high school,
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Orrin Hudson: Hayes High in Birmingham, Alabama,
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Orrin Hudson: who taught me six magic words,
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Orrin Hudson: take time to think things through.
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Orrin Hudson: Wow.
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Orrin Hudson: Wow.
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Orrin Hudson: And you've written a book on it.
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Orrin Hudson: Tell me about your book.
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Orrin Hudson: Les Brown and Jack Tampier
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Orrin Hudson: wrote the foreword for my book.
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Orrin Hudson: It's 240 pages.
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Orrin Hudson: And I thank God for people like Les Brown and Jack Canfield.
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Orrin Hudson: Got them on speed dial.
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Orrin Hudson: But the main thing is they know my heart.
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Orrin Hudson: They know what I'm about.
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Orrin Hudson: And I beat both of them.
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Orrin Hudson: Both of them, Jack Canfield and Les Brown.
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Orrin Hudson: They both beat Chess.
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Orrin Hudson: When I first met Les about 40 years ago, he said,
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Orrin Hudson: Orin, I can beat you in Chess.
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Orrin Hudson: I said, you can.
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Orrin Hudson: I said, let's go.
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Orrin Hudson: So I beat him up pretty bad.
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Orrin Hudson: And we've been friends ever since.
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Raymond Aaron: Tell me the title and subtitle of your book.
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Orrin Hudson: The title is One Move at a Time, How to Play and Win at Chess and Life.
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Orrin Hudson: So it's got a chapter in there about legacy.
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Orrin Hudson: It's got a chapter in there about 21 life lessons.
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Orrin Hudson: It talks about a famous game why people are the top Russian grandmasters in the world.
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Orrin Hudson: His name is Rashid Ziyathanov.
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Orrin Hudson: So I'm living my dream because chess saved my life.
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Orrin Hudson: And James Edge gave me the winning edge, and I'm just paying it forward.
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Orrin Hudson: I train over 100,000 kids.
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Orrin Hudson: My goal is a million.
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Orrin Hudson: And I won't stop until I drop.
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Raymond Aaron: Wow.
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Raymond Aaron: Well, now, I know that you're devoting your entire life to this.
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Raymond Aaron: But how do you survive?
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Raymond Aaron: Do you have a job?
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Raymond Aaron: Tell me about your life.
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Orrin Hudson: I don't have a job, but people hire me to speak from time to time.
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Orrin Hudson: And people see me.
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Orrin Hudson: I've been on TV a lot.
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Orrin Hudson: And TV has blessed me.
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Orrin Hudson: And because of TV, I've gotten donations.
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Orrin Hudson: And people like Les Brown has helped me a lot and Jack Canfield.
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Orrin Hudson: And then other people.
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Orrin Hudson: I do good because I've got a lot of seeds out there.
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Orrin Hudson: In fact, every week I'm always doing something for the community and giving back.
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Orrin Hudson: So I get paid.
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Orrin Hudson: God blesses me.
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Orrin Hudson: And people are always trying to support the work I'm doing.
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Orrin Hudson: So we welcome people to go to our website, beesomeone.org.
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Orrin Hudson: And we're playing a game without pieces.
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Orrin Hudson: God has been faithful and God has honored my steps because I care about the world and I teach the children.
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Orrin Hudson: And so my life depends on it because it does.
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Raymond Aaron: Wow.
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Raymond Aaron: Wow.
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Raymond Aaron: You just do good in the world and enough money comes to you.
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Orrin Hudson: Right.
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Orrin Hudson: Yeah.
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Orrin Hudson: And yeah, you just do good.
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Orrin Hudson: Every week I get a miracle.
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Orrin Hudson: I mean, I'll go out to eat.
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Orrin Hudson: Oh, that's a word.
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Orrin Hudson: I'm paying his meal.
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Orrin Hudson: I mean, it's just God provides.
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Orrin Hudson: Every week I get a miracle.
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Orrin Hudson: Every week I get some type of miracle.
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Orrin Hudson: And that's why I tell people, if you do good, good will follow you.
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Orrin Hudson: Pass your bread on the water, and then what will come back to you multiply.
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Raymond Aaron: Well, an example was I held a huge summit, World Prosper Summit, on the weekend.
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Raymond Aaron: And I noticed you were there.
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Raymond Aaron: you didn't ask any questions i just noticed your name on the list amongst thousands of people i said
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Raymond Aaron: darn it i miss that guy and so on my own i contacted you and as a result we do we're doing
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Raymond Aaron: this interview which is going to help you in book sales and in donations and so that's an example of
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Orrin Hudson: how i mean i met you 15 years ago well you you can track it back because you can say when was i
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Orrin Hudson: Donald Trump on stage and you you told a house now you were the best speaker there so can you
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Orrin Hudson: you can track that was it 2004 2007 I don't know when was it I don't know 50 I don't know what year
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Orrin Hudson: it was but you were here in Atlanta on stage at the World Congress Center yeah yeah and I did a
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Raymond Aaron: bang-up job and people love me and the best blessing is that you made sure that you met me
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Raymond Aaron: And when you came to me, I said, who is this guy?
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Raymond Aaron: And you started telling me your wisdom, started telling me what you're doing in your life, how you're dedicating your life to teaching.
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Raymond Aaron: And I said, big deal.
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Raymond Aaron: I don't dedicate my life to teaching, but you dedicate your life at a whole different level.
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Raymond Aaron: I mean, teaching is the thing that I love doing more than anything.
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Raymond Aaron: But for you, teaching is your life.
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Raymond Aaron: Teaching these kids so that they turn their life around.
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Raymond Aaron: No guns, no gangs, no drugs, attending school, no swearing, being polite.
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Raymond Aaron: Like if I walked up to a kid in a bad neighborhood and I said, be polite, I would expect him to laugh at me and maybe to injure me.
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Raymond Aaron: And yet they respect you.
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Raymond Aaron: They love you.
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Raymond Aaron: Not, well, tell me, at first, does your reputation precede you and they say, I want in?
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Raymond Aaron: Or at first, they say, what are you kidding?
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Raymond Aaron: I'm not doing all that good stuff.
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Orrin Hudson: What is it like most of the time?
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Orrin Hudson: I remember doing some training for this movie star, Jane Fonda.
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Orrin Hudson: And a lot of the kids didn't want to learn chess.
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Orrin Hudson: They didn't want to do it.
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Orrin Hudson: But when they saw the smaller kids learning, they go, wait a minute.
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Orrin Hudson: They can do it.
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Orrin Hudson: I can do it.
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Orrin Hudson: And so everybody started getting involved.
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Orrin Hudson: And I make it fun and exciting.
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Orrin Hudson: I have a rap song.
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Orrin Hudson: I'm always in poverty.
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Orrin Hudson: And I love sharing wisdom.
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Orrin Hudson: I love showing people how to make the right move.
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Orrin Hudson: My message is brains before bullets.
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Orrin Hudson: Think it out.
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Orrin Hudson: Don't shoot it out.
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Orrin Hudson: The only way to fight is to use your head.
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Orrin Hudson: Man up.
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Orrin Hudson: Stand up.
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Orrin Hudson: Pull your pants up.
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Raymond Aaron: I want you to say that again because I love it.
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Raymond Aaron: Which one?
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Raymond Aaron: Man up.
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Orrin Hudson: The whole thing?
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Orrin Hudson: brains before bullets, think it out, don't shoot it out. The only way to fight is to use your head.
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Raymond Aaron: Man up, stand up, pull your pants up. Oh man, I love that. That's like the best collection of
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Raymond Aaron: one-liners that ever existed. Now, tell me about the two words, be someone. How did that come from?
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Orrin Hudson: Abraham Lincoln, his mother, her last words on the planet to Abraham Lincoln was be someone.
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Orrin Hudson: And even though Abraham had failed many, many times to run of a public office, he took those two words, each of them went all to the White House.
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Orrin Hudson: I understand my assignment. My assignment is to empower our young people to be someone.
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Orrin Hudson: You know, your mind is a pearl. You can change the world. Be all you can be. Never settle for less than you can be.
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Orrin Hudson: You can do this. You can do it here. You can do it now. You have everything you need to succeed.
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Orrin Hudson: You have everything you need to be someone.
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Raymond Aaron: Wow. And you've named your nonprofit organization, BeSomeone.org.
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Raymond Aaron: BeSomeone.org.
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Raymond Aaron: Dot org. And I was just scrolling through it and I love it.
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Raymond Aaron: There's so much wisdom. There's testimonial stories.
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Raymond Aaron: There's, there's a list of all of your awards. My gosh, it goes on for pages.
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Orrin Hudson: Well, thank you, Miss. My George, I've been on,
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Orrin Hudson: I got the George W. Bush award by the White House.
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Orrin Hudson: got the FBI award and I won an award the other day.
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Orrin Hudson: I can't even remember what was the champion award from, yeah.
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Orrin Hudson: So it was Atlanta business league gave me the men of distinction award.
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Orrin Hudson: So I just, that's just happening. Love the day,
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Orrin Hudson: but I'm living my dream because it's so rewarding or getting kids who are lost
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Orrin Hudson: on the right track. It's so, it's so refreshing because you know what we,
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Orrin Hudson: Everyone is you. I tell people all the time. When I was a state trooper, I had the blue light, the badge, the bulletproof vest, but everybody I stopped, I treated them like the most important person in the world. Here's why. What you sincerely desire for others will happen for you.
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Orrin Hudson: Yes. I get a kick out of being a blessing to people. I just, I, I, I love it. You know,
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Orrin Hudson: I was helping this lady the other day, she was needing a bus ticket and I got it all taken care
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Orrin Hudson: of. She was happy, but she don't understand. I was more happy than her because I'm adding value
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Orrin Hudson: to the world. Yeah. And you know, I, I love people. I want people to win. A lawyer called me not long
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Orrin Hudson: ago and said, man, I sent my Latino friend to you and you were the only one that would happen. I said,
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Orrin Hudson: your Latino friend is me.
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Orrin Hudson: And so everybody is me and I'm going to do everything in my God and the power to help
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Orrin Hudson: everybody I can.
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Raymond Aaron: And to prove it, they're making a movie about your life.
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Orrin Hudson: I'm making a movie on what I'm doing.
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Orrin Hudson: Tell me.
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Orrin Hudson: And I'm making a movie on what I'm doing.
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Orrin Hudson: And I've trained over a hundred thousand kids.
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Orrin Hudson: My goal is a million.
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Orrin Hudson: And I just love sharing wisdom.
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Orrin Hudson: I love sharing wisdom and showing people what works for me.
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Orrin Hudson: My credit score is 830.
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Orrin Hudson: Got a high credit score.
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Orrin Hudson: And I'm just, my goal is to help a million children.
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Orrin Hudson: So I got to do a lot of fundraising so I can get this work done.
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Orrin Hudson: Right now, I'm doing workshops every week to give back to the community, making the hood good.
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Orrin Hudson: Think thrice and save a life.
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Orrin Hudson: My message is brains, beats, bullets, 24-7, 365.
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Orrin Hudson: Think thrice and save a life.
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Raymond Aaron: Nice.
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Raymond Aaron: Sweet.
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Raymond Aaron: Tell me about the movie.
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Orrin Hudson: the movie is it's uh it's going to talk about you know me being 14 years old making the wrong moves
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Orrin Hudson: white teacher pulled me to the side taught me to think and uh think for myself because i was
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Orrin Hudson: following the follower some people say following the food and it's going to talk about my struggles
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Orrin Hudson: and how i was able to um overcome that become an air force veteran state trooper then start a youth
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Orrin Hudson: development program called Be Someone.
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Orrin Hudson: Coach kids to win three Atlanta
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Orrin Hudson: public school championships. We won
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Orrin Hudson: a state championship. Just on a
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Orrin Hudson: mission is show children a better way
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Orrin Hudson: of life. It's going to talk about
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Orrin Hudson: my struggles and
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Orrin Hudson: how I was able to overcome some of some
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Orrin Hudson: setbacks and
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Orrin Hudson: be a giver and how
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Orrin Hudson: when you give, you win.
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Orrin Hudson: The give is to live and the take
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Orrin Hudson: is a mistake.
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Raymond Aaron: To give is to live
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Raymond Aaron: and to take is a mistake.
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Raymond Aaron: oh man you got the best one-liners ever barry menelow said she came and she gave
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Orrin Hudson: without taking and she swept me away oh manly you kiss me and you stop me from shaking and i need
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Orrin Hudson: you so to give is to live to take it's mistake if you give you win elder john sings a song called
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Orrin Hudson: a circle of life in the song and said, we all agree as we join the stampede, you should never
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Raymond Aaron: take more than you give. Never take more than you give. The average white man sings a song called
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Orrin Hudson: The Love of Your Own. And in the song, it said, the sooner you give, the sooner you get the hair.
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Raymond Aaron: Yeah.
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Raymond Aaron: Yeah.
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Raymond Aaron: The Sierra Club is based on the motto, leave only footprints and take only memories.
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Raymond Aaron: Love it.
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Raymond Aaron: Yeah.
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Raymond Aaron: So, Orin, I want to end our wonderful interview because I know that my listeners will never, ever forget you.
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Raymond Aaron: Ever, ever, ever.
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Raymond Aaron: because I introduced them to you in this podcast.
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Raymond Aaron: So I'm going to give an instruction, not homework.
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Raymond Aaron: Homework means you can do it if you want.
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Raymond Aaron: I'm going to give an instruction,
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Raymond Aaron: because I feel so deeply about this amazing Oren Checkmate Hudson.
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Raymond Aaron: Number one, buy his book.
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Raymond Aaron: Buy his book.
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Raymond Aaron: For your own benefit, to learn one move at a time.
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Raymond Aaron: one move at a time. Buy his book. It'll benefit you. It'll also help him. And the second thing is
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Raymond Aaron: go to his website. It's an easy website address to remember. It's besomeone.org.
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Raymond Aaron: besomeone.org and donate. Make as small a donation as you want or a large donation,
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Raymond Aaron: but feel the beauty of his soul.
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Raymond Aaron: Feel how he has completely dedicated his life,
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Raymond Aaron: not his job.
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Raymond Aaron: It's not a job.
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Raymond Aaron: It's his life.
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Raymond Aaron: A job is what you're paid for.
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Raymond Aaron: A calling is what you're made for.
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Raymond Aaron: And man, Oren's calling this lifetime
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Raymond Aaron: is to have kids learn the joy of checkmating,
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Raymond Aaron: the joy of losing a queen and surviving and winning the game,
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Raymond Aaron: the joy of winning in your own city or flying to another city
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Raymond Aaron: into a big maybe statewide tournament and winning,
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Raymond Aaron: and they never, ever go back to their old life.
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Raymond Aaron: So besomeone.org and donate.
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Raymond Aaron: Also, go to Amazon and buy his book.
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Raymond Aaron: Tell us the name again.
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Orrin Hudson: One move at a time.
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Orrin Hudson: How to Win a Chess in Life.
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Orrin Hudson: And the best place to buy the book is at besomeone.org on the website.
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Raymond Aaron: Oh, so they can order it through besomeone.org.
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Orrin Hudson: Yeah, it's the only place you can get an autographed copy.
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Raymond Aaron: Oh, my gosh.
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Raymond Aaron: So if they ordered from Amazon, they get the book.
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Raymond Aaron: If they ordered from BeSomeone.org, they get the book autographed.
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Raymond Aaron: Oh, man.
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Orrin Hudson: You over deliver like crazy.
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Orrin Hudson: Oh, I'm always going to give you more than you expect.
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Orrin Hudson: Promise a lot and deliver even more.
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Orrin Hudson: Excellence is not enough.
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Orrin Hudson: You've got to be amazing.
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Orrin Hudson: Excellent doesn't work.
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Orrin Hudson: People will fire you.
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Orrin Hudson: One of the coaches for the San Diego Chargers, he won 14 games.
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Orrin Hudson: They fired him.
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Orrin Hudson: Excellent doesn't work.
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Orrin Hudson: He won 14 out of 16 games.
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Orrin Hudson: They fired him because he lost the playoff game.
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Orrin Hudson: They don't play.
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Orrin Hudson: Excellent doesn't work.
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Orrin Hudson: You must be amazing.
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Orrin Hudson: Steph Curry is amazing.
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Orrin Hudson: His dudes hit 203 three-pointers in a row in practice.
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Orrin Hudson: You can't deal with it.
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Orrin Hudson: That's amazing.
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Raymond Aaron: And so are you.
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Raymond Aaron: And you're my hero.
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Raymond Aaron: I admire you. I know all of the most famous people in the world. Les Brown, Dr. John Demartini, Dr. Joe Vitale, Jack Canfield, Robert Kiyosaki. I know all of the most famous people in the world. And I look up to you with gigantic admiration.
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Raymond Aaron: I am so glad we met in Atlanta.
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Raymond Aaron: I'm so glad we're still in communication.
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Raymond Aaron: I love you.
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Raymond Aaron: I love you.
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Raymond Aaron: And I know that because of this podcast, that people will buy your book and they'll cherish that you autographed it and that people will donate.
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Raymond Aaron: Thank you.
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Raymond Aaron: Honored to know you.
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Raymond Aaron: I'm glad you came up to me roughly 15 years ago and made sure I knew who you were.
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Raymond Aaron: You did a great job of that.
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Orrin Hudson: You made an impression on a lot of people.
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Orrin Hudson: bad people laughing. You are the real deal Holyfield.
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Raymond Aaron: I'm good at what I do and you're great at what you do. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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