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The Midterm Stakes are Higher Than Gas Prices · David Pollack Primetime

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  Speaker 1: Some days it seems like we can't get out of
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  Speaker 1: our own way. Yesterday, a Republican congressman stood on the
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  Speaker 1: floor of the House of Representatives and moved to impeach
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  Speaker 1: President Trump's Secretary of War. Not a Democrat, a Republican.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm sure you can guess who it was. That's right,
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  Speaker 1: the outgoing Thomas Massey of Kentucky. Now, he read eight
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  Speaker 1: articles of impeachment against Pete Hegseth, A 34-page resolution accusing
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  Speaker 1: the Secretary of War of waging the war in Iran
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  Speaker 1: without the blessing of Congress, along with operations in Venezuela
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  Speaker 1: and Yemen.
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  Speaker 2: He filed as what is called a privilege. And this
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  Speaker 2: is like a little trick he did.
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  Speaker 1: He filed it as a privileged resolution, which means he
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  Speaker 1: can force the entire House to take a vote on
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  Speaker 1: it by Thursday. AND HE DIDN'T WARN REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP THAT
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  Speaker 1: HE WAS GOING TO DO IT. AND HE DID THAT
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  Speaker 1: ON PURPOSE.
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  Speaker 2: SO THEY COULDN'T STOP HIM. WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.
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  Speaker 1: SEVEN WEEKS BEFORE THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL MIDTERM ELECTION OF OUR
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  Speaker 1: LIFETIME POSSIBLY, EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN IN THAT CHAMBER WAS ABOUT
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  Speaker 1: TO BE FORCED TO CAST A VOTE ON IMPEACHING A.
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  Speaker 2: BUT THE RISK IS KIND OF GOOD.
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  Speaker 1: AND JUST YESTERDAY ON THAT SAME FLOOR, THE HOUSE VOTED
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  Speaker 1: FOR THE THIRD TIME TO PASS A RESOLUTION DEMANDING THE
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  Speaker 1: PRESIDENT END THE WAR IN IRAN AND THAT PASSED.
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  Speaker 2: 222, WAIT, IT WAS 220 TO 204.
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  Speaker 1: THAT MEANS SEVEN REPUBLICANS HAD TO CROSS THE AISLE TO
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  Speaker 1: VOTE FOR IT. UP FROM FOUR THE LAST TIME THEY
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  Speaker 1: TRIED THIS. IT DIED IN THE SENATE LAST TIME. BECAUSE
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  Speaker 1: THE CRACKS ARE SPREADING. AND THEN ALSO THAT SAME AFTERNOON,
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  Speaker 1: THE HOUSE HAD TO VOTE DOWN YET ANOTHER ATTEMPT BY
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  Speaker 1: DEMOCRATS TO IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT. NOW, IT WAS A LITTLE
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  Speaker 1: BIT OF DRAMA, BUT KIND OF A NOTHING BURGER. THE
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  Speaker 1: INTERESTING PART WAS NOT ALL DEMOCRATS WERE IN FAVOR OF
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  Speaker 1: THAT IMPEACHMENT.
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  Speaker 2: I HAVE THEORIES ON WHY THAT IS. BUT NOW, THIS GOES.
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  Speaker 1: BEYOND ANY DISAGREEMENT WITH THE PRESIDENT'S FOREIGN POLICY. YOU'RE ALLOWED
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  Speaker 1: TO THINK THAT WE'VE BEEN IN IRAN TOO LONG. YOU
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  Speaker 1: CAN BE OPPOSED TO THE WAR. YOU CAN WANT PERMISSION.
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  Speaker 2: WHATEVER. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS.
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  Speaker 1: WHAT WE ARE WATCHING RIGHT NOW IS A COORDINATED FULL
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  Speaker 1: COURT ASSAULT ON DONALD TRUMP COMING FROM EVERY DIRECTION AT ONCE.
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  Speaker 1: THE LEFT IS ATTACKING HIM DAILY ON ENERGY, ON DATA CENTERS,
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  Speaker 1: ON ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, ON THE PRICE OF GROCERIES. AND NOW
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  Speaker 1: EVEN A SMALL BAND ON THE RIGHT, EVEN A LAME
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  Speaker 1: DUCK CONGRESSMAN LOST HIS SEAT.
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  Speaker 2: THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
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  Speaker 1: THAT THIS OF ALL MOMENTS IS THE PERFECT TIME TO
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  Speaker 1: PILE ON PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HELP DEMOCRATS TAKE POWER. SO
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  Speaker 1: UNDERSTAND WHAT'S ON THE LINE HERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT GAS PRICES.
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  Speaker 1: IF THIS ASSAULT SUCCEEDS AND DISGUSTS ENOUGH REPUBLICANS AS STAYING
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  Speaker 1: HOME AND HANDS THE CONGRESS BACK TO DEMOCRATS IN NOVEMBER,
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  Speaker 1: UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU HAVE JUST INVITED BACK INTO WASHINGTON.
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  Speaker 2: NOT ONE OF THESE PROBLEMS GETS.
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  Speaker 1: THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, THE BORDER, THE ECONOMY,
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  Speaker 1: THE BORDER, THE ECONOMY, THE GROCERIES AREN'T GOING TO GET CHEAPER.
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  Speaker 2: WHAT YOU GET INSTEAD IS TIMU OBAMA, MR.
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  Speaker 1: HAKIM JEFFRIES, HOLDING THE GAVEL AGAIN. YOU GET DEMOCRATS CHAIRING
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  Speaker 1: EVERY COMMITTEE. YOU GET THEM LAUNCHING HUNDREDS OF NEW INVESTIGATIONS
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  Speaker 1: INTO THE PRESIDENT, KILLING ALL THE INVESTIGATIONS INTO THE CORRUPTION
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  Speaker 1: OF BIDEN AND OBAMA, BEARING IT FOREVER. STOPPED, DEAD, NOT MOVING.
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  Speaker 1: THAT IS THE CHOICE. NOT WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH EVERY
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  Speaker 1: DECISION THE PRESIDENT MAKES, BUT WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO LET
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  Speaker 1: A WAVE OF MANUFACTURED OUTRAGE HAND THIS COUNTRY BACK TO.
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  Speaker 2: THE VERY PEOPLE WHO SPENT YEARS TRYING TO DESTROY IT.
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  Speaker 1: I'm honored to bring in Tiffany Marie Brennan, political strategist
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  Speaker 1: and podcast host. Welcome to David Pollak Prime Time. Look,
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  Speaker 1: I'm watching this stuff. I'm watching what's happening in Washington. Massey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not shocked. I am not shocked what Massey did.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm watching our own side, influencers, and you see
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  Speaker 2: what's happening in Congress.
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  Speaker 1: Now, by the way, because of that Massey vote or
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  Speaker 1: because of the impeachment that Massey filed, they have to
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  Speaker 1: recess Congress probably until after the election. So that means
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  Speaker 1: Republicans can't vote on things like Save America Act because
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  Speaker 1: of Massey. You know, he can't even get out of
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  Speaker 1: the way when the voters sent him packing.
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  Speaker 2: This is where we're at right now.
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  Speaker 1: What do you make of this situation and what do
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  Speaker 1: you think the consequences are going to.
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  Speaker 2: Be on the midterms?
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  Speaker 3: I'm tired of losing, to be completely honest. I'm tired
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  Speaker 3: of this loser mentality. I mean, Massey's being a spoiled brat,
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  Speaker 3: in my opinion. He is not taking one for the team. And,
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  Speaker 3: you know, say what you will about the left. I
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  Speaker 3: can't stand the left. I'm obviously very anti-everything they represent.
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  Speaker 3: But what I will say about them is that they
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  Speaker 3: are unapologetically of the same mind, and they work together
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  Speaker 3: as a team. They have one goal and one goal
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  Speaker 3: only in mind, and that is power. It is attaining power,
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  Speaker 3: and it is retaining power. And that is something that
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  Speaker 3: we just can't seem to get our act together on
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  Speaker 3: the right. You know, Massey is literally shooting us in
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  Speaker 3: the foot. And the fact that he has turned from
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  Speaker 3: someone who represented Americans in Congress into someone that is
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  Speaker 3: trying to go out with a bang, like literally not
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  Speaker 3: in a good way, more like a suicide bomb, where
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  Speaker 3: you see just massive damage, as much as he can cause,
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  Speaker 3: before that door closes on him.
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  Speaker 4: And I think it's disgraceful.
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  Speaker 1: So how do we combat the Republicans that are trying
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  Speaker 1: to stab the president in the back on their way out?
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  Speaker 1: How do we combat the former Republican so-called social media
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  Speaker 1: influencers that say they voted for Trump, therefore they have
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  Speaker 1: all the authority to trash President Trump on a daily basis,
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  Speaker 1: regardless of the impact?
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  Speaker 2: How do we fight back against this and win in November?
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  Speaker 3: With optimism, I think, first and foremost. First of all,
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  Speaker 3: I'm tired, and I'm sure you are too, of all
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  Speaker 3: the blackpilling, all the people that have gone from being,
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  Speaker 3: you know, on the MAGA train or really, really excited
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  Speaker 3: about the president and his initiatives and why we voted him.
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  Speaker 3: to being completely bitter and saying that it's just hopeless, no,
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  Speaker 3: your vote doesn't matter. And I think that we also
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  Speaker 3: need to fight back with truth. This is a systemic issue.
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  Speaker 3: Socialism and communism have failed 100% of the time and
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  Speaker 3: are responsible for over 100 million deaths, yet it is
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  Speaker 3: now very, very popular within our society and within our
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  Speaker 3: politics to approve and even prefer these concepts and ideas.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that we need to push back on
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  Speaker 3: the fact that while we do love and champion individualism
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  Speaker 3: in this country, not to the extent of destroying our nation.
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  Speaker 3: It's almost like they want so badly to be, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if it's celebrity, I don't know if it's
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  Speaker 3: to make a name for themselves, but instead of seeing
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  Speaker 3: the bigger picture, all these other nations, they think in
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  Speaker 3: hundreds of years or thousands of years, and we think
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  Speaker 3: in these petty little two to four year election cycles,
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  Speaker 3: and we have to change.
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  Speaker 4: That or we will lose.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. I think, unfortunately, Republicans can't
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  Speaker 1: have nice things. We fought so hard to get Trump
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  Speaker 1: in power, and we just need to be a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more patient.
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  Speaker 5: J.D.
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  Speaker 1: Vance was out today saying, hey, guys, hey, look, I
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  Speaker 1: know you might not think everything is great, but just
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  Speaker 1: give us time. We have two more years. We have
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  Speaker 1: to let them keep the House. We have to keep
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  Speaker 1: the Senate. We have to keep pushing this agenda. And
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  Speaker 1: I think things are going to get better for a
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  Speaker 1: lot of Americans soon.
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  Speaker 2: Tiffany, thank you so much for being here. Great takes.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: Still ahead, the left has found its midterm weapon, the economy.
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  Speaker 1: But the man exposing their socialist lies as a story
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  Speaker 1: that they're not going to be able to argue with
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  Speaker 1: his own family had to flee Castro's Cuba because of
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  Speaker 1: the socialism they say that's going to make things more affordable.
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  Speaker 2: That's coming up. Then Iran is cornered.
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  Speaker 1: So it opened a second front in Yemen with one
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  Speaker 1: of their friends, the Houthis, and they're trying to choke
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  Speaker 1: off the world's oil.
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  Speaker 2: We have more on that later.
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  Speaker 1: Plus, the Senate... Actually agreed to do something together, a
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  Speaker 1: bill to try to save college sports. We've got all
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  Speaker 1: of that.
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  Speaker 1: For the break, we talked about the midterm assault on
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  Speaker 1: President Trump from, it seems, all sides.
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  Speaker 2: Wage with the most powerful weapon there is in politics,
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  Speaker 2: the economy.
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  Speaker 1: The left, well, they've gone all in on the affordability
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  Speaker 1: message for these midterms.
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  Speaker 2: And here's how they intend to use it.
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  Speaker 1: Because the socialists, Zoran Mandani, the Democrat socialists, I'M NOT
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  Speaker 1: GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
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  Speaker 2: I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TAKING
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  Speaker 2: OVER THE PARTY WHERE.
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  Speaker 1: THEY'RE GOING TO GO LOOK YOU IN THE EYE AND
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  Speaker 1: TELL YOU THAT CAPITALISM DID THIS.
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  Speaker 2: IT'S THE RICH PEOPLE'S FAULT. THEY DID THIS TO YOU.
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  Speaker 2: THAT THE FREE MARKET IS A VILLAIN. THE FIX IS TO.
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  Speaker 1: LET THE GOVERNMENT TAKE ALL THEIR WEALTH AND HAND IT
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  Speaker 1: BACK OUT TO YOU.
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  Speaker 2: YOU'RE SEEING IT. IT'S WORKING.
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  Speaker 1: EVERYBODY IS BLAMING BOOMERS FOR HAVING HOMES THAT THEY OWN.
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  Speaker 2: AND THAT CURE THE SOCIALISTS ARE SELLING, IT'S NOT NEW.
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  Speaker 2: IT'S NOT THEORETICAL.
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  Speaker 1: IT'S BEEN TRIED OVER AND OVER AND COUNTRY AFTER COUNTRY.
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  Speaker 1: AND IT ENDS THE EXACT SAME WAY but with everybody
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  Speaker 1: being made equally poor, standing in the same bread lines
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  Speaker 1: while the people who run the regime live like kings.
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  Speaker 2: Now my next guest's family, he lived through it. He
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  Speaker 2: fled from it.
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  Speaker 1: He laid out the whole case in a piece for
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  Speaker 1: The Federalist called The Wealth Gap Is Real, and Washington
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  Speaker 1: created it.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone should go read it.
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  Speaker 1: Republican strategist Gabriel Yanez welcomed it.
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  Speaker 2: David Pollak, prime time.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look, we have sounded the alarm of socialism.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you and I talked off the show that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we both lived in Miami. I know a
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  Speaker 1: lot of Cuban people who fled communism, and they were
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  Speaker 1: sold the same sort of lies, like, oh, look at
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  Speaker 1: these people who have, and we want to give what
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  Speaker 1: they have to you.
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  Speaker 2: But look at Cuba. The people are starving. There's no food.
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  Speaker 1: You can't even give them money. There's nothing for them
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  Speaker 1: to buy. That is the promise of socialism. That is
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  Speaker 1: the end result of it. Can you talk about your
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  Speaker 1: piece there in The Federalist and the warning you're giving
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  Speaker 1: to America?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, look, I wrote the piece not so much as
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  Speaker 7: a lecture to the left, because I really truly feel
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  Speaker 7: they're too far gone, but kind of a warning to
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  Speaker 7: my own party that this is happening. This is an undercurrent.
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  Speaker 7: I think most of us feel it, particularly if you
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  Speaker 7: talk to young people and they espouse these socialist ideals
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  Speaker 7: and talk about socialism so nonchalantly and flippantly, as if
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  Speaker 7: it's a great thing. Of course, ironically, they're posting online
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  Speaker 7: using their $ 2, 000 MacBook with their $ 1, 000 iPhone or in
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  Speaker 7: their $ 300 Nike shoes. But we're seeing this come about,
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  Speaker 7: this swell that seven months ago, we elected the head
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  Speaker 7: of the city of this once the pillar of capitalism
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  Speaker 7: in New York City. Seven months ago, we elected an
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  Speaker 7: outright socialist. And so this is a real issue that
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  Speaker 7: we're seeing. And Republicans kind of have, some Republicans at least,
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  Speaker 7: have their hands, their head in the sand. And it's
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  Speaker 7: quite worrying.
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  Speaker 1: So how do we win this message? Because when you
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  Speaker 1: look at gas, because I've been fighting the fight, right?
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  Speaker 1: You look at gas prices. You look at the price
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  Speaker 1: of certain food. You look at the price of this.
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  Speaker 1: You look at the price of that. Everybody tends to
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  Speaker 1: blame the party in charge when the economy doesn't feel
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  Speaker 1: like it's as good as it should be or as
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  Speaker 1: good as they were promised it will be. And as
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  Speaker 1: a result, they want to hold somebody accountable. And there
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  Speaker 1: are some people coming around making promises that they don't
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  Speaker 1: intend on keeping, but it's promises enough to let some
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  Speaker 1: of these socialists rise to power. How do we combat
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  Speaker 1: that message? Because when somebody who's not in power gets
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  Speaker 1: up and says, you see how bad things are? Do
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  Speaker 1: you know how expensive things are? We're going to make
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  Speaker 1: your life better. And it's the people in power's fault.
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  Speaker 1: How do you combat that message? Because what you're asking
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  Speaker 1: people to do is sort of ignore their own lived
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  Speaker 1: experiences to accept that what they're selling isn't going to
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  Speaker 1: make their lives any better.
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  Speaker 2: How do we do that?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, we tell them the truth, David. We tell people
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  Speaker 7: the truth. We tell them, hey, we're well aware that
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  Speaker 7: the wealth gap is real, that the wealthy are getting wealthier,
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  Speaker 7: and the people in the middle class and lower class
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  Speaker 7: are getting poorer. But tell them that the reason this
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  Speaker 7: is happening is not because of the free markets. It's,
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  Speaker 7: of course, because of manipulation by big governments. And big
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  Speaker 7: government has caused these issues. And we've printed more money
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  Speaker 7: in a two-year span between 2021 and 2022 than we
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  Speaker 7: did in the prior 100 years before that. 40% of
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  Speaker 7: all the money ever printed was done in that time span.
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  Speaker 7: So what that does, of course, is create inflationary pressures.
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  Speaker 7: It makes the cost of goods go up. while the
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  Speaker 7: money in our pockets is worth less. And so the
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  Speaker 7: problem is, when you print money, the wealthy class, people
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  Speaker 7: with the access to banks, they get the money first,
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  Speaker 7: and they're able to invest it before the inflation goes up.
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  Speaker 7: By the time it hits the average person's pocket, the
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  Speaker 7: inflation has already hit. So it might actually be worth
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  Speaker 7: less than what the money is that you received from
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  Speaker 7: the printing press. So Republicans need to get real and
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  Speaker 7: go back and create a contract with America. We've been
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  Speaker 7: riding on President Trump's coattails for a very long time.
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  Speaker 7: We've been blessed that President Trump sacrificed a good portion
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  Speaker 7: of his life, a very good life, I might add,
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  Speaker 7: to give something back to his country. But Republicans have
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  Speaker 7: been spineless. Luckily, President Trump had a great idea recently.
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  Speaker 7: Let's give everybody a $ 5, 000 check. I know that sounds
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  Speaker 7: odd to say, but it really is a really good idea.
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  Speaker 5: Why is it a good idea?
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  Speaker 7: Because if the Republican Congress, our leaders in Congress, actually
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  Speaker 7: started listening to President Trump, We would hopefully would win
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  Speaker 7: in this midterm. We'd say, hey, we're going to give
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  Speaker 7: everybody five thousand dollars, but we're going to peg it
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  Speaker 7: with a reduction in the government and government spending. So
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  Speaker 7: you're going to get five thousand dollars in your pocket
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  Speaker 7: and then we're going to cut the budget by, say,
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  Speaker 7: one point three trillion dollars. This is expected to cost
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  Speaker 7: somewhere between eight hundred and a trillion dollars net savings.
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  Speaker 7: And it'd be a huge boom. So President Trump's on
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  Speaker 7: the right track, and this is exactly what we need
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  Speaker 7: to do, because if we don't start addressing this, the
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  Speaker 7: socialists are going to come and say, hey, it's the
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  Speaker 7: free markets that did this. What we need is even
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  Speaker 7: bigger government. We need to take away people's freedom. We
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  Speaker 7: need socialism. And pretty soon you're going to start, and
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  Speaker 7: we have already started seeing it, and some of them,
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  Speaker 7: like Hasan Piker, saying that we need communism now.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and you bring up a great point with the $ 5, 000 checks.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought it up, because when Zoran Mandani runs,
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  Speaker 1: he promises free grocery stores, free buses, free childcare.
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  Speaker 2: Rent control. He promised incentives.
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  Speaker 1: Well above $ 5, 000 per person in New York, knowing the
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  Speaker 1: money wasn't there for it. And Trump says, I want
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  Speaker 1: to give you back some of your money and then
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  Speaker 1: make government spend less. And all of a sudden, the
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  Speaker 1: left loses their mind. Why is it OK for the
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  Speaker 1: socialists to promise to give you free stuff, but it's
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  Speaker 1: not OK for the president to promise to give you
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  Speaker 1: back YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE IT FOR YOURSELF AND TAX
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  Speaker 1: IT 100%. THAT IS THE WAY THESE PEOPLE THINK AND
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  Speaker 1: IT MAKES YOUR ARGUMENT FOR YOU THAT GOVERNMENT IS THE
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  Speaker 1: PROBLEM AND ELECTING PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GROW GOVERNMENT ISN'T
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  Speaker 1: GOING TO MAKE YOUR LIFE BETTER.
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  Speaker 2: IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT WORSE. I HAVE ABOUT A
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: MINUTE LEFT. LET ME ASK YOU.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Because the Cuban people were promised one reality and instead
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: they got another.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: What are conditions like for people in Cuba when you
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: turn over power to a socialist government? Horrible, horrible.
• 16:31
  Speaker 7: You know, not only is my family from Cuba, my
• 16:34
  Speaker 7: wife was born and raised in Venezuela. I can tell
• 16:36
  Speaker 7: you it's the same story there. We see right now
• 16:38
  Speaker 7: in Cuba, where you had mentioned this, you could give
• 16:40
  Speaker 7: people $ 100, you could send them $ 10, 000.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: It doesn't quite matter.
• 16:44
  Speaker 7: There's no goods for them to buy with that money.
• 16:47
  Speaker 7: And that's the atrociousness that socialism brings. It takes away
• 16:50
  Speaker 7: the ability for an average person to have a life,
• 16:53
  Speaker 7: have freedom, have the things, go out and get a
• 16:55
  Speaker 7: job and have some dignity for themselves. Because unlike President Trump,
• 16:59
  Speaker 7: where he wants to lift everybody up and Republicans tend
• 17:01
  Speaker 7: to want to lift everybody up, what Democrats want to
• 17:03
  Speaker 7: do is bring everybody down and take from folks instead
• 17:06
  Speaker 7: of letting everybody have an opportunity to grow.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: And that is exactly the problem. And that is the truth.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: And that's honestly how we fight back against the socialists.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: We just have to show them the realities of what
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: they're promising.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Big, big, big, big terms coming up.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I appreciate your advocacy on this and sharing your story.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Coming up, while everyone is watching Iran, the Iran-backed Houthis
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: just seized Yemen's entire Red Sea coast, and they're closing
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: in on the world's oil. Iran's, possibly Iran's most dangerous
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: move yet.
• 17:46
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  Speaker 1: We spent a lot of time on this program on
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: America's war with Iran, the strikes, the tankers, the Strait
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: of Hormuz, and the gas prices here at home as
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: a result of this war. But tonight, there is some
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: good news, I guess, because there are signs that Iran
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: is becoming desperate and looking for another way to hit
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: back against the U.S. Let's call it their last front
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: in this war. And it's on the other side of
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: the Arabian Peninsula in Yemen.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Remember the Houthis?
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: No, it's not Disney's latest multicultural film arriving just in
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: time for the holidays. They're the Iran-backed terrorist group that
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: has been firing on ships and on Israel for two years.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: And things have escalated in recent days in a lightning offensive.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: They have seized the entire Red Sea coastline of Yemen.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: They ran the Saudi-backed forces right off the map. Entire
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: brigades in full retreat. They've captured a major port and
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: a strategic island. And now they are pushing towards the
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: biggest prize of all, the Bab el Mandeb, the narrow
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: strait at the mouth of the Red Sea that a
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: huge share of the world's oil has to pass through.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Another oil choke point. Sound familiar? It's a familiar strategy.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: This is Iran, yet again.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: But it's playing its last card with Tehran pinned down.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: and losing the main fight and Hormuz opening up. It's
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: reaching for its proxies and turning the Houthis loose to
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: choke off global shipping and drive up the price of
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: oil just in time for the midterms.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Same war, same strategy, just a different front. The final front,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I think, really.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: And the Saudis, they're not wasting any time, and they're
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: standing up a new international coalition to try to guard.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: The Red Sea.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Riyadh just signed a new defense pact with Pakistan. It
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: is reportedly reaching out to old adversaries as well for help.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: The United Nations says the fighting has already driven tens
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: of thousands of people from their homes, and the United
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: States is now weighing whether to hit the Houthis directly
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: all over again. Question tonight is whether this is Iran's
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: desperate last gamble, which I think it is, or the
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: opening of a dangerous new chapter in this war. Now,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: there's no one better to walk us through it. George Papadopoulos,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: former foreign policy advisor to President Trump and author of
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Deep State. George, welcome back to David Pollak Prime Time.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: What do we make in this latest development in this war?
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Hi, David.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: Thanks for having me.
• 20:56
  Speaker 8: Look, this is a very significant escalation of which has
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: now really affected the world's largest oil supplier in a
• 21:06
  Speaker 8: very direct fashion. And unfortunately, this escalation has now really
• 21:12
  Speaker 8: strengthened Iran's position at the negotiation table, and it has
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: the potential to really move the current tight oil market
• 21:24
  Speaker 8: into outright distress. And I would really argue, David, that
• 21:28
  Speaker 8: Saudi Arabia's lack of strategic foresight is what's really invited
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: this calamity on their own territory, given They're really back
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: and forth when it comes to recognizing Israel or having
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: a diplomatic relationship with Israel, given that the Trump administration
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: has really prioritized the United States, Saudi Arabia and Israel
• 21:54
  Speaker 8: collaborating and having diplomatic relations and potentially working at a
• 21:58
  Speaker 8: trilateral level. And now Saudi Arabia has gone really begging
• 22:04
  Speaker 8: the Trump administration to hit the Houthis, something that the
• 22:07
  Speaker 8: Trump administration has said.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: They will not do.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: And they're really.
• 22:11
  Speaker 8: Left with no other option except work with these new
• 22:16
  Speaker 8: potential partners like Pakistan and Turkey, or go to the Israelis,
• 22:21
  Speaker 8: who have a mutual enemy in the Houthis and Iran.
• 22:25
  Speaker 8: This is going to be very important moving forward to
• 22:28
  Speaker 8: see how the strikes by the Houthis and Iranian-backed militias
• 22:34
  Speaker 8: from Iraq hitting Saudi Arabia affects the normalization drive between
• 22:39
  Speaker 8: Saudi Arabia and Israel. I think that, and also with
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: the U.S. producing oil at a rapid pace, stabilizing the
• 22:48
  Speaker 8: oil market will be the two major headlines that I
• 22:51
  Speaker 8: think the world will be watching very closely.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: So what do you view as Trump's response to this?
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Because I'm looking at it as strategic patience. I love
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: the way you set it up because Trump is saying
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia is This is your problem.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Deal with it. I mean, even though we are engaged
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: in a war with Iran, and this.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Is arguably Iran's doing, motivating their proxies to choke off
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the world's oil supply in order to give them some
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: leverage and some time. But at the same time, Trump
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: could hit the Houthis, but he's not. So is this
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: really Trump's effort to kind of hope and teach and
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: kind of guide the region to start policing themselves in
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: sort of an exit strategy for the United States, saying, hey,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: we're here to support you, but this is your problem
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: to clean up. Is that the approach here?
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Is that the right approach?
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: Well, look, what this situation has really highlighted for the
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: world to see is that the one true swing producer
• 23:48
  Speaker 8: in the energy markets is no longer Saudi Arabia. It's
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: not Iran, and it's not OPEC. It's the United States
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: of America. The United States of America, under the Trump administration,
• 23:59
  Speaker 8: has now become a net exporter of energy to the first.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: Time since World War II.
• 24:05
  Speaker 8: It's also given hope to many energy-scarce nations around the world,
• 24:11
  Speaker 8: whether they're allies or foes like the European Union, NATO,
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: and China, the ability to actually have energy at a
• 24:20
  Speaker 8: time when pipelines and entire straits have been shut down
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: in the Persian Gulf.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: So that's the first thing.
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: So that's something that I think is going to really
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: bode well for the United States in terms of revenue,
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: its geopolitical standing, and really allowing the U.S. to finally
• 24:40
  Speaker 8: allow oil to drive its economy into the next 50 years, hopefully,
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: of this century. Regarding the security situation, the United States
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: does need an off-ramp because the American people will no
• 24:55
  Speaker 8: longer support boots on the ground or endless wars or
• 24:59
  Speaker 8: thousands of casualties and trillions of dollars spent on in
• 25:02
  Speaker 8: wars in the Middle East. The surgical strikes and the
• 25:06
  Speaker 8: tactics that the United States has taken against Iran have
• 25:09
  Speaker 8: really borne tremendous fruits and benefits for the United States. However,
• 25:15
  Speaker 8: the problem with Iran continues to fester, and Saudi Arabia
• 25:21
  Speaker 8: will continue to live across from the Strait of Hormuz
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: for their entire existence. So there has to be some
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: sort of deal that Saudi Arabia comes to whether it
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: is working with Iran to calm tensions, working with Israel
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: to hit the Houthis, or continuing to work with the
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: United States in some fashion that does not drag the
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: United States into a conflict in the Middle East. That's
• 25:48
  Speaker 8: ultimately going to be the million-dollar question.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: How are they going to do it?
• 25:53
  Speaker 8: But I think the Trump administration is prioritizing U.S. interests,
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: and that is extremely important in this very unstable situation.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: It's very interesting the way you set that all up,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: because what you're suggesting is that because the United States
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: is producing more energy because of the deals we made
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: with Venezuela, because we're becoming an oil exporter, Iran's bad
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: behavior and Saudi Arabia's unwillingness in the past to sort
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: of engage where they needed to. This is going to
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: become a regional problem for them, and it benefits the
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: United States because now the opportunity for us to export.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: More oil increases.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: It's a really interesting sort of power dynamic shift that
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: we're seeing come out of this, and it kind of
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: goes against the criticism of this war, suggesting that we're
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: doing all this for Israel.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: If we were doing things for Israel, well, then we
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: would have.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Attacked Yemen and attacked the Houthis, because Israel would probably
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: like nothing more than us to attack the Houthis and
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: not make it their problem with Saudi Arabia.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: So this is Trump putting America first, right?
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: Well, absolutely.
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: And this entire notion that the United States is in
• 26:55
  Speaker 8: this war on Israel's behalf is really crazy conspiracy. It's
• 27:01
  Speaker 8: in fact Saudi Arabia today that's begging Israel for intelligence help.
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: and to strike the Houthis and potentially Iran on their
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: behalf without actually acknowledging or recognizing or having a diplomatic
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: relationship with Israel. So the Trump administration is basically telling
• 27:26
  Speaker 8: these countries, you will be left to your own devices.
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: You will ultimately have to work out some sort of
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: agreement because the U.S. core interests in this conflict was
• 27:36
  Speaker 8: to prevent Iran from having a nuclear weapon. That objective
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: has overwhelmingly been a success. And to protect our allies
• 27:45
  Speaker 8: in the region, which we have in a great fashion,
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: including Israel, Jordan, Cyprus, some other countries in NATO that
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: were potentially almost struck So this is something that I
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: think the American people have to understand.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: The Middle East is changing. The U.S.
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: Geopolitical standing is changing. And as long as the United
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: States will no longer support endless wars, allowing the United
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: States to be a net exporter of energy and keeping
• 28:16
  Speaker 8: calm from a distance in the Middle East instead of
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: directly intervening, is ultimately what will secure U.S. interests, prevents U.S.
• 28:26
  Speaker 8: military men and women in uniform from dying in the
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: Middle East, and any other geopolitical failures that, unfortunately, past
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: presidents have forced the United States into.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Fascinating observation.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Thank you, George Papadopoulos, as always. I always learn so
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: much from you every time you come on. Really interesting take.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here, as always.
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: Appreciate it, David.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: When we come back, college sports, well, they seem to
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: have collapsed into total chaos thanks to NIL.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: And transfer portals.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: And players getting paid and all that nonsense. Well, yesterday,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: the Senate finally moved to do something about it.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about what's in the Protecting College envelope.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Sports bill and who's fighting it and who's fighting against
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: it that's coming up plus later we have weaponization watch
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: wednesday the doctor or jury convicted the judge acquitted him
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: and then an appellant court is now asking for a
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: new trial it's a crazy story you won't want to
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: miss stick.
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• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Another season of college football is underway in America. One day,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: one day, I'll be excited to watch the Seminoles again.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: And while it doesn't seem like we can agree on
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: much these days, I think everyone can agree that the combination,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: or maybe most people can, the combination of NIL, name, image, likeness,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: you know, athletes getting paid, with the transfer portals have
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: absolutely ruined college football, at least for me. It's made
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: it really difficult because you can't really develop players these days.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: They kind of just hop from one place to another,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: but there's some hope. Some of the wildness in the
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: NCAA system It's getting fixed in Washington, of all places.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: The United States Senate came together, and by a vote
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: of 74 to 24, moved forward a bill to try
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: to fix this chaos that I think sports has become,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: college sports at least. And in this chaos, ever since
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: college athletes were allowed to start getting paid a few
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: years back, it's really been the Wild West because a
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: different set of rules applies in every single state. And
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: as a result, there's been endless lawsuits. Players have been
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: transferring two, three times in as many years. There's boosters
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: funneling millions of dollars and to what everybody is kind
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: of calling pay to play these days, dressed up as
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: endorsement deals. It's been a total mess. And nobody's really
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: been in charge of it. Some people think it's good
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: or bad, but here's what this bill does. The College,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I think the Protect College Sports Act, it tries to
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: do this.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: It creates one national rule book. It doesn't ban paying athletes.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: It's not what it is.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Instead, it sets a single federal standard. Schools would be
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: allowed to share their revenue directly with players up to
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: a certain cap.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Athletes would get.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: A guaranteed one guaranteed transfer without losing eligibility. Agents would
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: be registered and their fees capped. And critically, it keeps
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: college athletes classified as students, not employees. And it gives
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: the NCAA a limited legal shield. So it can enforce
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: their rules again. Now, here's the case for it. The
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: people behind this bill really think that the SEC, it's
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: the Big Ten, it's lots of universities, professional leagues, Trump administration,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: in fact, even Nick Saban, their argument is simple. Without
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: one national standard, the courts in 50 different state laws
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: will tear college sports apart because players will pick and
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: choose what state they go to based on what.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: The laws are. AND A LOT OF PROGRAMS CAN SURVIVE
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: IN THAT ENVIRONMENT.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: SENATOR TED CRUZ CALLED THE CURRENT SITUATION A THREAT TO
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: THE SURVIVAL OF COLLEGE ATHLETICS. YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN HIM
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: ON GAME DAY GETTING SOME DIFFERENT MIXED REACTIONS, LET'S CALL IT,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: OVER THE WEEKEND. NOW THE COSPONSOR CALLED THIS THE LAST
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: CHANCE TO SAVE THE COLLEGE GAME.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: BUT THERE'S OPPOSITION, TOO.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: IT'S COMING FROM LABOR UNIONS, THE AFL-CIO, AND FROM ATHLETE ADVOCATES.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: AND THEIR ARGUMENT IS THAT THIS BILL HANDS THE SCHOOLS
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: AND THE while denying the players the one thing other
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Americans get when they generate billions of dollars, the right
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: to organize, collectively bargain, and be treated as employees. They
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: say it protects the institutions and freezes out the athletes.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Congressional Black Caucus withheld its support for the same reason.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: So where does this actually stand tonight? The legislation is
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: supposed to go all the way to the House of Representatives,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: and they just went on recess again and might not
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: be back until after the midterm elections. And I doubt
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: it will hit the president's desk before this year's national championship.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: So that's if it hits it at all.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: So at least for now, it's a step forward, but
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: a long way to the finish line. I didn't have
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: entirely enough sports analogies in this monologue, but to break
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: down what happens next, And whether it actually fixes the problem,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: I'm excited to welcome back a five-time Olympian who's been
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: advocating to protect athletes in this legislation.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Katie Ulander, welcome back to Dave Pollack Prime Time.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Look, last time we spoke about this, you were really
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: concerned that athletes weren't going to be protected. You thought
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: that this bill really was giving the NCAA immunity that
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: they didn't deserve. You talked about the similarities to something
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: that the Olympic Committee does that Similarly, it's not favoring
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: the athletes. So now where you see this thing advancing,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: do you still have those concerns?
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: And what do you think about it altogether?
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I have to say USA. Any
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: chance I get, I do. I want to clarify that
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: all of the criticisms I have do not take away
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: my pride of representing my country or being an athlete.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: I just want the next generation to have the best
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: opportunities possible. And the one thing I know and I
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: love is fair competition. And I don't see how this
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: bill does that. Essentially, the argument behind unionization is, doesn't
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: work because sport's a different venue, especially college sport. This
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: is not professional sports. But granting them antitrust exemption changes
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: the game as well. Let me explain. The world of
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: amateur sport, Olympics, and college sport is a monopoly. So
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: essentially by giving the NCAA antitrust exemption, it eliminates the
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: free market. And everyone's saying athletes aren't employees. They aren't professional.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: That's true. But if you're making money off of their name,
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: the jersey literally says Ulander on the back. That doesn't
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: feel right. And that's what the Supreme Court ruled. And
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: there was chaos from 21 to 24, showing that there
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: was an arms race, paying athletes got out of control.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: They were transferring all left and right. And that led
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: to the House versus NCAA case that implemented rev share.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: And it's only been a year. So I'm like, I
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: have one question is in a free market, if now
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: we have a rev share and athletes are signing rev
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: share contracts, which would limit their transfers and kind of
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: create some stability to the market on its own. why
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: do we need the federal government to step in? That's
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: the biggest question I have is it hasn't had time
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: for the market to balance itself out. I'm not against
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: national rules. I'm an athlete. I want to play by
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: the rules. I want to know, you know, I want
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: to have stability and know what's up. But at the
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: same time, why would that include giving them exemption from
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: any checks and balances. So essentially they're going to be
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: beyond having any athletes speak up in the future on
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: how RevShare works. It's capped permanently without any athlete input.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: So the protections that are provided to the athletes are
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: statutory and they sunset. When they run out, there's no
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: one sitting at the table to talk on behalf of
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: the athlete and half of the protections are, I don't know.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: Now I'm just like a lot of the protections need
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: an independent organization, um, to look through them. 107, there's
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: a ton. I mean, I could get into the details,
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: but the bottom line is the athletes don't have a voice.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: And in a monopoly, that's un-American. We deserve to have
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: a say. And I'm confused. Like I have questions I'd
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: like people to ask. I don't see how this solves
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: the problem long-term. Cantwell's data that just came out proved
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: that the surplus spending was more towards administration. It's not
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: the athletes. The athletes are being used as a scapegoat. Also,
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: the NIL transfer issues or chaos was caused pre-house versus NCAA.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: That's only been put in place for a year. There's
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: a chance all that could work itself out on its own.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: I'm not against national rules. I'm for fair competition. This
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: antitrust exemption is not fair to the smaller schools or
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: to the athletes. What we need is if there are
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: If there is antitrust exemption, it needs to come alongside
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: a process that includes the athlete's voice. And you don't
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: need unionization to do that. You don't need employment status.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: You need an independent organization that's there for the athlete specifically.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: And that can be done without unionization. It can be
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: a hybrid model because that's what sport is trying to
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: do right now. It's a nonprofit model that's trying to
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: be professional. So you need to create something to address that.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: not just hand the keys over to the NCAA that
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: has proven not to regulate sport well at all. And
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: in a few years when these provisions run out, that's
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: what's going to happen. We're going to end up right
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: back where we are now because nothing in this bill
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: stops them from spending the money where they want to.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: All you're doing is taking one expenditure, limiting it and
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: allowing them to continue the arms race elsewhere. I don't
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: see how it solves the problem.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Well, look, I think, You wrote an op-ed about this before,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: a great op-ed. I think you should write another one.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: The House still has to take this up and, you know,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: they could change the legislation. They could block it entirely.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: So the fight isn't over. So certainly I think some
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: solution is going to come out of it and we'll see.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: But yeah, go ahead.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: No, I'm just, I'm a conservative and I'm for limited governance.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: I think the free market works. And I think that
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: that includes allowing people to have a voice. So don't
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: take the athlete's voice.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: An Olympian should know. And I really appreciate your advocacy
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: on this. I appreciate your take on it. I appreciate
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: the education because, again, I look at this like a
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: guy who watches sports. I don't look at it as
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: somebody who's actually impacted by this. I'm just wanting to
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: see players not transfer.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: And get paid.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: So maybe my own teams can be better again. But
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: you bring up a much bigger, less selfish point that
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: hopefully they'll consider when working this legislation through to the
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: president's desk.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Katie, thank you so much for being here as always. USA, USA.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: USA.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Still ahead, a celebrated COVID doctor indicted over what he
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: calls 250 bucks in billing disputes.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: He's facing 50 years in prison for it.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Wait till you hear what the judge said about his case.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: This is a crazy story. It's coming up on Weaponization
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Watch Wednesday, and that's right after this.
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• 41:21
  Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, which means it's time for our brand new segment.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: I call it Weaponization Watch Wednesday. And I have to
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: tell you, out of all the stories I've brought you
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: in these last few weeks, this segment might be one
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: of the strangest cases that we've talked about yet. It's
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: the story of a doctor, a jury convicted, and a
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: judge unconvicted.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: His name is Dr. Ron Elfenbein.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: He's an emergency room physician out of Maryland, and when
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: COVID hit, he built one of the very first drive-through
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: testing operations in his state. He tested and treated more
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: than 100,000 patients. He got people who were sick their
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: monoclonal antibody treatments, remember that? And for all of it,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: his own state medical society named him Physician of the Year.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: And then he.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Did something in this country supposed to be, well, you know,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: constitutionally protected. In 2021, he went on television and he
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: criticized the Biden administration for restricting access.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: To those monoclonal antibody treatments.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: You remember all that? You have to remember when that
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: was happening. People were getting better and they go, no, no, no,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: stop giving it to them. He believed those treatments were
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: saving lives. Coincidentally, four months later, the Biden Justice Department,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: guess what? They indicted him for fraud. Now, brace yourself
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: for the scale of this alleged crime. Government, government said
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: he had overbilled by using the wrong billing code on
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: a handful of quick COVID visits. But according to them,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: the grand total of that fraud was $ 15 million.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Now, Dr.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Elfenbein says that totals a little bit closer to 250
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: bucks for a $ 50 billing discrepancy on the five counts
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: he was charged with. NOW, FOR THAT, THIS DOCTOR WAS
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: FACING THE POSSIBILITY OF DECADES IN FEDERAL PRISON. AND HERE'S
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: THE CRAZIEST PART. SO A JURY CONVICTS HIM, AND THEN
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: HERE'S SOMETHING ALMOST YOU NEVER SEE. THE TRIAL JUDGE, AN
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: APPOINTEE OF BARACK OBAMA, BY THE WAY, Chief Judge James Bretter,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: he sat down, read the record, heard the jury's verdict,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: and he threw the conviction out. He wrote a 93-page
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: opinion acquitting Dr.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Alvin Bunn completely from the bench.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: And the American Medical Association, the organization that literally wrote
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: the billing rules that the government claims he broke, HE'S
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. HE FILED A
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: BRIEF WITH THE COURT SAYING THIS DOCTOR DID NOTHING WRONG.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: WOW, RIGHT? YOU WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE THE END
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: OF IT.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: JUDGE ACQUITS HIM, HE GOES HOME, PUT ALL THIS BEHIND HIM,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: BUT IT WASN'T. THE GOVERNMENT APPEALED, GOT THAT ACQUITTAL REVERSED
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: ON APPEAL, AND TONIGHT HE'S STARING DOWN A BRAND-NEW TRIAL
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: FOR THE SAME.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: This remarkable story.
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: Dr.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Ron Elfenbein, welcome to the show.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Your story is really fascinating to me, not just because
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: of the discrepancies and the amount of damages that the
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: government claims and that you've put out in your defense,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: but the fact that the judge and the people who
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: even wrote the billing rule said there's nothing here.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: What are they going after you for then?
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: Well, first of all, thanks for having me, Dave. It's
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: really an honor to be here. And, um, I get
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: really angry listening to you go through this because it's
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: so frustrating to be in this position. And you did
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: a great job of synopsis, by the way. Just a
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: couple of points. It's actually, we tested and treated over 300,000
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: patients throughout the pandemic. I don't know. I cannot understand
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: how I'm still in this situation. I just think that
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: we have a new administration, and I think it's just
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: that I'm caught in this bureaucratic morass, and nobody has
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: taken the time to really sit through and look at
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: this case for what it really is. It's a clear
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: case of weaponization by the Biden Department of Justice, because
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: I had the temerity to speak out on Fox News
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: and then on Newsmax, claiming that the Biden administration was
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: going to kill people, which is exactly what happened when
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: they took away the only treatment that we had that
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: worked for COVID, which was monoclonal antibodies, the only one
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: that we were allowed to give.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: And it worked.
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: It worked like a charm. And they took it away.
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: And people died because of that. And that's a horrific crime.
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: They should be the ones being forced to go to prison,
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: not me. But, you know, and it's literally over $ 250.
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: And I also want to point out that Judge Bedard
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: actually was the judge who sat through the entire trial.
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: He wasn't some third party guy who just reviewed the case.
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: He sat through the whole trial, listened to every second
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: of testimony. So he was an active participant in the trial.
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: And he, you know, I mean, he wrote that 93
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: page opinion and it was very, just completely ripped the
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: government apart.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Now, as far as your case is concerned, I know
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: they're trying to do another trial. Is there any appealing
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: the reversal of the acquittal, or do you have to
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: face a.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: New trial now?
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: Well, we tried every avenue we could to get someone
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: to listen to reason, but there was nothing left about that.
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: I'm facing a new trial. I'm trying to get someone
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: in the Department of Justice to, as I said, to
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: look at this case and say this is ridiculous. It's
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: already been adjudicated. What are they trying to get here?
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: I don't understand it. I know they want to win.
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: The Department of Justice, they really, these prosecutors, all they
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: care about is wins and losses. It's not about justice.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: It's about wins.
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: I get that part. But for God's sakes, they've already
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: destroyed my life once and my wife's life and my
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: four children's lives. Enough already. Just go away. I can't
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: fathom how they can continue to come after me. For what?
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: It literally is a $ 250 billing dispute that at worst
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: could have been handled by a phone call. It's crazy.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: And let's talk about that because, of course, anybody who
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: wants to take an opposite position, they're going to say, oh,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: the government's saying it's $ 15 million in fraud. You're saying
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: it's $ 250. Explain what's at the heart of this dispute.
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: So in the relevant timeframe of the indictment, we saw
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: about 100,000 patients, okay? The government chose five, and they
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: said the wrong billing code was chosen on those five charts.
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: And I didn't see any of these patients. I didn't
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: bill any of these patients. I didn't code any of
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: these patients. They were all seen, okay? There's no allegations
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: that these weren't real patients that got tested and were
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: seen by providers. They were just seen by nurse practitioners
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: and PAs who worked for me. And we had a
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: third-party billing company, by the way, who also handled the billing.
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: So the government says, we chose the wrong code out
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: of five charts out of over 100,000 that we saw
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: out of over 69,000 possible codes you can pick from.
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: They chose five, and they said the wrong code was chosen. OK,
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: the difference between we were billing what's called a level
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: four evaluation and management, it doesn't really matter, but the
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: next lowest level is a level three, and The difference,
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: I googled it, the difference between a four and a
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: three on average is about $ 50. So 50 times five
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: is $ 250. That's where the 250 comes from. The government
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: gets $ 15 million because they said, oh, you were fraudulently billing.
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: You shouldn't get paid for anybody. We should get paid zero,
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: despite the fact that all these patients were actually seen.
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: They were actually tested. The government says you should get
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: paid nothing. So they take 100,000 patients, and they multiply
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: whatever the average bill was. And they said, that's what
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: you quote unquote stole. I mean, I don't understand this math.
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: It's ridiculous and it's nonsensical, but that's where they came
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: up with that number. And by the way, that 15
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: million number is just the billing number. In medicine, you
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: typically get paid, your business gets paid about a third
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: of what you bill. So you're actually talking about my
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: business being paid about $ 5 million a a $ 15 million bill.
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: If that's really what the bill was, I don't even know.
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's completely insane. So their numbers are completely
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: just made up out of thin air. I mean, it's crazy,
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: but they're allowed to do that. That's just kind of
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: how the system works.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: This story is so absolutely incredible. And this is why
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: I do this segment every Wednesday, because, you know, when
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: you have cases like the January 6th.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Defendants, for example, this is a large group of people.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Or if there were high profile people like the Roger
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Stones or the Peter Navarro's of the world, it's easy
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: for the president to say, OK, I need to look
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: at these cases. But when you're talking about an ER doctor,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: you know, or in the last week we had a
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: cop from Connecticut or the week before that, a guy
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: who was accused of stealing $ 150, 000 in VA benefits, that's
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: a whole other story. When you have these smaller cases
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: that the DOJ is either already prosecuted or still prosecuting
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: in your case, it's not easy for the president to
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: pay attention to every single thing the DOJ is doing,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: which is why I think it's so important that you
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: share this story here. Hopefully the right people see it
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: and say, hey, President Trump, What's going on here with
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: this case? And maybe he can take a look at
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: it or maybe Cash Patel can see it and say, hey, guys,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: what's going on here? The DOJ and Todd Blanche can say, hey, guys,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: because this case, it's worth looking into a.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Second time, I think.
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: Oh, I totally agree. And again, it's not just me
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: saying this. And you pointed this out earlier. The American
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: Medical Association came to my defense. And I'm not a member.
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: And they never come to the defense of individual doctors.
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: But they did in this case. And what's crazy about
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: it is they write the rules that the government's accusing
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: me of breaking. And they said I didn't break the rules.
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's just insanity. But yet, this is where
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: I find myself. And throughout the pandemic, we infused monoclonal
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: antibodies over 5,000 patients We save the system hundreds upon
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: hundreds of millions of dollars in terms of people not
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: having to go be hospitalized, not getting other people sick.
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: On balance, even if you save the $ 15 million, we're
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: still talking a net savings of hundreds of millions of dollars.
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: It's crazy. I just can't imagine what they hope to
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: get out of this, other than it's weaponization they're trying
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: to punish me.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, that seems like the logical, I mean, considering
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: that they, after you were.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Acquitted by a judge, acquitted by a judge, they're like, no, no, no,
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: we're still going to press this case. And to remind people,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: those monoclonal antibodies, I remember those became popular during that
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Delta variant. So we had that first wave and then
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: we had that second wave and a lot of old
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: people and a lot of overweight people were dying from
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: COVID during that Delta variant. monoclonal antibodies were being prescribed
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: to people who were getting sick with that Delta variant.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: It saved so many lives. And when lives were being saved,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Joe Biden said, no.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Stop giving them monoclonal antibodies. Let's put them on ventilators instead.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Or Reddisevere, whatever they called it, when death is near.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: They were killing people. This whole thing made no sense. Doctor,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: you saved a lot of lives. And what they're doing
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: to you, in my opinion, needs to be taken a
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: close look at.
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: Well, thank you. I appreciate it. What got me was
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: they came out and they shut the program down. And
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: they said the rationale for that was they said that
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: the prevalence of the Omicron variant had reached 70%. I'm like,
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: there's no possible way that's true. They're wrong. And they're
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: killing people. And they came out a couple of weeks
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: later and said, oh, yeah, we were wrong. It wasn't 70%.
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: It was 20%.
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: Now, how can a statistician make a mistake on the
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: order of 300%? My seven-year-old kid could have figured that
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: out better than the government did. It had to. I mean,
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: there's no way anyone made a mistake like that. That's
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: not a mistake. There was an ulterior motive. They wanted
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: to shut that program down. They wanted to get rid
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: of monoclonals. And by the way, as soon as I
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: pointed that out, they said, OK, OK, you can go
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: back to your infusions. You can start giving infusions again.
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: And then very quickly thereafter, one by one, the monoclonal
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: antibodies disappeared. You can't get them anymore. But you can
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: still get the vaccine. They took away the only cure
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: we had for COVID-19. And to this day, you cannot
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: get it anymore. That is reprehensible and it's evil. These
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: people are evil and they have an agenda. And it's
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: just unbelievable what they've done. And not just to me,
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: but I mean, thousands of people are dead because of this.
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: It's just unconscionable.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: And then when we find out all these stories about
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Fauci and what he knew and what he hid and
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: the instructions to destroy evidence and then him pleading the fifth.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, this whole thing, I'm glad you're here telling
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: this story because I don't care how long ago it was.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: This is a story that needs to come into light
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: because this happened to all the American people and we
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: deserve answers. And, sir, I hope this next trial, I
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: hope something happens before this next trial and this case
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: goes away. I mean, it's already cost you and your family,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: like you said, a lot. Thank you so much for
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: being here and sharing your story with us.
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: Thanks so much for having me. Please go to www.dropthecase.com.
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: That's my website. Thank you so much, everybody. Thanks, David.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Well, that is our show for tonight.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Join us tomorrow.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: I have a famous pollster coming on to tell you
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• 54:24
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• 54:31
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• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Same time, same place. And until then, stay classy, America.
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