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NFL 2025 | Week 18 "Tent Talk" | Updates, News & Injuries | Banter with the Boys - Gridiron Updates · Banter with the Boys

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  it's laced up let's go it's time for banter with
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  the boys oh hello what's going on welcome back
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  to banter with the boys gridiron updates our
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  tent talk episode damn it justin i was laughing
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  sorry it's actually really fast for you All right.
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  Sorry. Lots of things are going on off air here.
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  Yeah. So we're here. Nothing weird. Anyway, Roberto's
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  here. He's recovering right now. I'm here. Smelty's
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  here as well. That's me. Yes. To my Larry, it's
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  Jake, a Ravens fan. Hi. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
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  Yeah. No, I hear you. And then next to Roberto,
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  Justin, our Packer fan. What's up? Back at it
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  again. And then, of course, Kev behind the camera
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  and the computer and all of the stuff over there.
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  Probably some sports cards and other things.
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  Actually, I don't. Did you bring all the sports
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  cards upstairs? Holy crap. I just noticed that.
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  Kev, Justin, and I are massive in the cards.
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  So anyway. What are we doing? Injuries, yes.
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  Okay, so there's a lot of injuries that happened
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  this week, actually, but I only put down the
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  ones for playoff teams. Did that matter? Okay.
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  No, they all matter. Like Geno Smith, high ankle
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  sprain, that sucks, but wasn't even going to
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  mention it. You just did. So anyway, Trent Williams
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  left the game after the first snap, I believe,
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  with a hamstring issue, and that's very concerning
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  for the Niners. They did okay without him. the
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  course of the entire year. They did, but listen
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  here. And would you rather have him? Hell yeah.
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  So are you saying him next week? But I guess
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  it's like, we'll talk to the Chargers then. That's
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  up to Trent. Yeah, that's up to Trent, I guess.
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  With a man that big, I'm going to let him make
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  his own decisions. They did do okay. They did
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  do okay without him. All right, okay. Darnell
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  Washington, excuse me. Tight end for Pittsburgh,
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  that gigantic man. Broken arm. Season likely
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  over. Yep. So... Whatever. That sucks. I mean,
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  Darnell, get well. I traded for you in Madden.
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  Thanks, dude. He's massive. I think that's going
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  to have a significant impact on the Steelers
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  against the Ravens. Just that big third tight
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  end. Just a block. And then Aaron Rodgers felt
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  comfortable just tossing it down to him all season
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  long. Just like, oh, security blanket. Big man,
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  go. You're going to miss him. D -tackle for Green
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  Bay Jordan Riley. Torn Achilles. He was just
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  signed off the Giants practice squad. I don't
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  even know who that is. I was going to say, I
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  don't think he did too much since he got signed
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  off the Giants practice squad. I think he was
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  just a depth player. Let's see. Rashid Shahid.
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  Seattle's like receiver kick return, whatever.
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  Yeah. Pretty much won the Rams. Yeah. Correct.
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  Season ending concussion. They just, they said
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  it's a concussion. They straight up said it was
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  season ending, not protocol like done. So that's
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  kind of, that's kind of concerning. Yeah. Concussion.
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  So hopefully quick recovery. Just heal up. No,
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  it doesn't need to be quick. Just heal up. Your
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  season is done, buddy. Healthy in life. No doubt.
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  Yeah. Let's see. Jake's cousin, Lamar Jackson.
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  Heck yeah. Back is still. Cousin Lamar. Cousin
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  Lamar. I just put in the thing here. Back is
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  still a thing. Sure is. You would think he's
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  going to play in this game, though. Jury's still
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  out. We won't. Probably have a better idea until
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  after practice on Wednesday. Does his big toe
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  hurt, too, still? No, all of the focus and the
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  attention is the contusion on his back. And I
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  think they're using the language hope, which
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  I think they're hopeful that it'll progress.
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  But to your point, they have to get to Wednesday.
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  What percent does he have to be for you to send
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  him out there? One. No. Over Tyler Huntley? He's
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  not that bad. 80%. I would like to see him at
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  80 or higher. Because that Steelers defense is...
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  still gonna ball out for sure uh and you need
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  to be healthy and one wrong hit i feel like you
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  know one wrong sack or even hit after the throw
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  is not gonna yep could not end well so um but
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  if you don't win you're not in so that's right
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  i don't know because if he doesn't play and doesn't
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  make the playoffs i mean if the coach is going
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  there he'd magically say what so we're gonna
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  go there What? Just go on. Well, if they don't
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  make the playoffs. Tread lightly. I know, honestly.
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  He's going to sit there all offseason and go,
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  I should have played. I get it first. So I think
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  if he gets the checkmark by the medical staff,
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  we're having multiple conversations. No, no,
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  no, we're fine. We're not talking about the conference.
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  That's all I got. Okay. He didn't go where I
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  thought you were going to go. I thought we were
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  going to talk about Lamar's legacy if he doesn't
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  play in this game. No, I would consider that.
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  I mean, that's a back intuition. Right. That's
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  a lot of running and twisting and bending. Why
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  do you think this would be a legacy question
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  for non -Lamar fans? I'm not. It's in your head.
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  Well, it's because it's like the news feed. Everyone's
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  like, oh, trade Lamar. Lamar's legacy. Are these
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  Baltimore news feeds? Are fans sick of them?
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  there's Baltimore news feeds. There's other media
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  outlets that are also having these converse or
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  like posting these, not my circle, these news
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  articles. Well, you have a port group of friends.
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  Yeah, guys. Yeah. Yeah. Cause you're not hanging
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  out with Ravens fans or more of them. Um, I got
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  a deal for you. Okay. Uh, you guys eat half the
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  money and we'll just give you a third round pick
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  and we'll take one more off your hands. Half
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  the money Half the money? Half the money Let
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  me think about it. I'd put him down at what?
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  Like $27 million or something? Yeah, he's only
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  getting like $55. Oh, even better. Yeah, half
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  a million. We still got a Porsche in the garage.
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  We still got to drive and see what we got. Oh,
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  I know. I know. He's got to charge up for it.
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  He's asking at Brosmer, though. There's a lot
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  of legacy questions that are always flying around
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  Lamar about whether or not he's the quarterback.
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  Is he going to be able to get the Ravens over
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  the hump? Is he going to win a big game? That
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  kind of stuff. So he's getting more like the
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  toy, not toy command, but Josh Allen. Josh Allen
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  isn't one that got over the house yet. Yeah,
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  but there's Jim Kelly. Tony Romo. There you go.
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  Tony Romo's a good example. Really great quarterback
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  in the regular season. Can he get it done in
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  the postseason? Can he get him into the postseason?
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  I mean, they don't make him much better than
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  that. Right. Every time he just walks better.
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  I love that. I get annoyed, and I give a virtual
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  finger to all of the news articles that are like
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  trade Lamar or fire John Harbaugh. All right,
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  Raven fan, you hear that. Keep Lamar. Keep John.
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  Let's go. He wants to keep the squad together.
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  That's right. All right. Well, with us talking
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  about. Does he sit or not this week? Another
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  quarterback that may sit or not. Josh Allen.
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  Does he sit this week? That foot obviously bugging
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  him. We talked about it in our preview episode.
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  If you did not listen to that, go check that
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  out. Week 16. I'm sorry. Recap episode. Our week
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  17 recap episode. Jeez, I'm just spewing words.
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  Just spewing words. You know what I mean? It
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  was smooth. But he was seeing limb in through
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  some plays and stuff. So it's just like. Do you
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  risk becoming the seventh seed if you lose and
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  sit Josh Allen out and you roll Mitchell Trubisky
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  and see if he pulls it out? I'm not sure. You
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  know, I think I said I'm personally. I think
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  I've seen enough from the Bills that they can
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  they can make a run from the seventh seed. What's
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  the playoff scenario there for the Bills? You
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  said anywhere from the 80s to the seventh. I
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  mean, at this point, like we were talking about,
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  doesn't matter. Six, seven, five or five, six,
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  seven. Doesn't matter to me. Have you seen the
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  videos on kids at, like, college basketball games?
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  No, let's not even start talking about it. Oh,
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  my God. Dude, they go crazy. Like, it's nothing
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  like I've ever seen before. Great. Now it's going
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  to be in our algorithm. We're going to talk about
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  it. That's perfect. We'll get views. We'll get
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  views. It's fine. All right. Anyway, actually,
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  funny enough, I was, like, driving through a
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  neighborhood this week. I'm sorry, not this week,
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  this year. It was, like, a couple months ago.
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  And these kids were just standing in the front
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  yard. I was just driving by, and they were like.
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  but they were like doing it on their chest. So
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  I was like, I didn't know what six, seven was.
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  So I was like, are they like, is it like the
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  milkshake? What's going on here? And then I found
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  out about six, seven. I was like, Oh, that's
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  probably what they were doing that day. But they
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  coached. Oh my gosh. There it is. Moving on.
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  Anyway, another, another quarterback that is
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  sitting out this week is Justin Herbert. They've
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  already announced. that he will not start against
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  Denver, which is big, because I think Denver
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  has to win to lock up the number one. They're
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  going back and forth between them and New England.
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  So this is really big. So Pats fans are probably
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  pissed. They saw that news. They're like, oh,
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  they're just handing it to them. I forget who
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  the heck Herbert's backup is right now, though.
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  Hold on. I mean, could they still win? Probably
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  not. I'm working on it. I should know this, you
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  know, as a flam. well i'm pulling it up it's
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  right here it's right here trey lance awesome
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  so we get to see some trey lance this weekend
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  rejuvenate the career get traded to minnesota
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  the old course yeah who's the who's the coach
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  down there for who chargers harbaugh harbaugh
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  oh yeah so we call him the jimbo qe whisper now
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  after lance's return all right no i'm not excited
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  about that all right um no not at all and then
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  the only one oh Let me figure out words here.
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  The only other one that I had down was Jamal
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  Dean. He's a corner for Tampa Bay. Shoulder was
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  kind of hit or miss during the whole game, so
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  I ended up kind of pulling him out. So we'll
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  see a big one coming up this weekend for him.
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  Any other injuries that you guys need to throw
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  out there? Other than Lions fans. Ooh. Their
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  souls, hearts, all of it. Oh, wow. Their tears.
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  And Cowboys fans. They're always hurt. We ended
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  their season, too. Permanent IR. I'm just trying
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  to take my competitive W as well. Hey, I understand.
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  I understand. Let's head into just a slight bit
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  of news here. Did your name end in digs? Oh,
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  me? Yeah. No. Okay, good. Because this is a bad
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  news day. If it is. Smooth. Nice. That was nice.
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  Stefan Diggs in the news as well. Not great.
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  I'll just let you go find that out. Trayvon Diggs
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  getting released. Do you think they did that
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  so he can try to join with a contender? Or are
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  they just like, bro, you just burned too many
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  times, man. I don't think they wanted to pay
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  him injuries. Sure, sure. Just not what they
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  signed up for when they gave him that contract.
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  The whole shebang. They don't want to pay him
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  another half a million dollars just to play.
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  Was there like a roster bonus at like week 18
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  or something that saved him some? Because it's
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  weird that there's one more week. Yeah. You know,
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  like why not? Something happened? I feel, yeah,
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  something weird must have happened. Stefan Diggs
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  get him in trouble too? Or maybe he had to go
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  do emotional support for him or what? I don't
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  know. I don't know. Anyway. Is his throat hurting?
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  I shouldn't say that. Oh, my gosh. Too far. Packers
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  fans. Yeah, you have to excuse him. He's a little
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  messed up in the head. Packers are supposedly
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  one of the two teams that are most likely to
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  pick up. Cheryl Killer. You see that? Wow. I
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  mean, the Packers could use another cornerback
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  for sure. I mean, that was their number one question
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  mark coming into the season. Was their secondary
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  going to be any good? And they've actually played
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  pretty well. Yeah, they've been okay. I mean,
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  for what I thought they were going to be. For
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  sure. I thought it was going to be a lot more
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  disastrous. Nixon's played pretty decent. He's
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  a little handsy, like so old. But now I'm going
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  to get on a whole different tangent. Okay. We
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  gone. The Bills are about to play their final
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  game. At Highmark. Yeah, that'll be it. The Ralph,
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  as Bills Mafia calls it, I guess. I did not know
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  that, but I found that out. I mean, that's what
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  it was before they added the corporate name to
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  it. Clearly, I paid. You weren't born before
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  corporate names. Before they sold the naming
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  rights. I wasn't born before corporate names.
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  You're right. Oh. Sad. Another thing I saw today,
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  the Hall of Fame class is down to... the 15 finalists.
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  Yeah. So that's, so that's cool. Uh, I would
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  have it up, you know, if I was prepared for a
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  podcast, I have mixed emotions and feelings about
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  the. Why? About the 15 finalists. Why? Who do
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  you not like on it? Some PPE participants. Here,
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  let me read the list really quick before you
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  give us your deal here. Willie Anderson, he played
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  for your Baltimore Ravens for a year, I think.
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  Yeah, just a year. I think he spent most of his
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  in NOLA. Bengals. Oh, NOLA, okay. I was thinking
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  of the wide receiver. Drew Brees, Jahari Evans.
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  He's in. Larry Fitzgerald. I did have. Did I
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  screenshot these? No, I didn't. I did have like
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  how many times there have been up for Hall of
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  Fame. Oh, it's right here. This is Drew Brees'
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  first year. Yeah. And Larry Fitz. Let's get through
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  the list. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My bad. My bad. Larry
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  Fitzgerald. Frank Gore. Not in. His first year.
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  Torrey Holt, his seventh year. Luke Keekly, his
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  second year. Eli Manning, second year. Terrell
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  Suggs, second year. It must be him you don't
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  like. Adam Vinatieri. Second year. Reggie Wayne,
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  his seventh year. That seems crazy to me. Yeah,
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  but it's taken that long for him to get in. Torrey
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  Holt, too, to me. Yeah. Kevin Williams, his first
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  year. Skol. Jason Witten, his first year. Deron
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  Woodson, fourth year. Marshall Yanda, second
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  year. Who are you upset about? So, it's... it's
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  the wide receivers. I mean, to me, Larry Fitzgerald's
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  automatically in, but like Tori Holt, Reggie
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  Wayne, not, you don't think they're, you don't
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  think Wayne's in. So, and I've been, I've been
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  chewing on this for a lot of the day. And I think
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  it, I think Peyton Manning. Yeah. My jaw hurts.
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  And so does my cheek. Cause I bit my cheek a
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  couple of times too. So that's a little, a little
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  raw. Once you hit it the first time, it happens
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  a couple more times. And every time. Yeah, it's
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  frustrating. I feel like if you put Reggie Wayne
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  on a different team, you don't get the same productivity.
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  I think the same thing with Torrey. As far as
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  like why. Right. But I think both of them are
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  more products of the system and the QB and the
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  QBs that they played with and not necessarily
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  they themselves as like premier. elite wide receivers.
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  Cause Larry Fitzgerald did it with so many different
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  quarterbacks. He's got to be in for it. It's
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  his first year. He's got to go. And I think you
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  look at D hop. I think D hop is hall of fame
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  worthy. And he did it with so many, his productivity
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  with so many different quarterbacks too, but
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  his PD thing or whatever is going to catch up
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  maybe with them. You think for HOF or not? I
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  think he has that six game suspension for some.
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  Yeah. I think the PD thing is less of a thing
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  in the NFL than it is. in Major League Baseball.
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  Because in Major League Baseball, it's like,
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  yeah, PD, we're not going to touch you with a
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  10 -foot pole. Right. And then I have different
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  thoughts about that, which we can't talk about
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  because that's not football. Yeah, right. Fair.
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  Interesting, though. I want to hear about that.
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  And then offensive linemen are always hard to
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  judge because it's like they just stood there
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  and blocked. So how do you really determine that?
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  I feel like a guy like... you know, Trent Williams
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  is HOF, you know, or no, no, you don't think
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  so. No. Part of the, part of the Williams. Oh,
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  was he really good? He's been the best left tackle
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  in football. Sure. For five, eight, 10 years.
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  Unfortunately, I don't know Willie Anderson very
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  well. No. Oh, I thought we were talking Kevin
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  Williams here. Your defensive. Oh yeah. De -tackle.
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  Yeah. Like I don't tackle for the 49ers. Well,
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  yeah, I think he's in. I didn't know you were
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  talking about de -tackles. Cause there's like
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  the, Like, for some of those tackles or offensive
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  linemen, there's an aura about them where you're
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  like, you see them, and you're just like, oh,
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  God, I got to get around this thing. Yeah, yeah.
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  Or this man. Which no one ever does. So I think
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  there's some of that. Yeah, Kevin Williams, I'm
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  not sure. I'm happy he's a finalist. I don't
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  think Luke Keekly gets in either. Wicked smart
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  guy. Which is too bad. His career was cut way
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  too short. You don't think he gets in at all?
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  No, I don't think he does. Because I thought
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  his career was super short, too. But he did play
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  nine seasons. He made it to a Super Bowl, right?
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  I mean, they didn't win, obviously. And he was
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  like the best tackling linebacker in the NFL.
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  For some time, yeah. Well, he was competing against
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  Patrick Willis. Eli Manning. Yes. And I think
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  for me, it's because he's the only one to beat
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  Tom Brady. He should have been first. battle
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  hall of famer agreed two super bowls is automatically
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  dead yeah i don't know if he gets in and i think
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  there's like a weird i think there's a weird
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  There's a weird connotation about him that I
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  think people can't get past for some reason.
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  Is it the confused look on his face all the time?
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  Does he deserve it by his resume? 100%. But I
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  think there's something there that could prevent
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  it from happening. I'd love to see it happen.
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  Just because he doesn't have the same attitude
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  as Phillip Rivers, who everybody thinks. He's
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  not his brother either. Peyton Manning's yelling
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  at his position players, or Tom Brady even, get
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  in the effing spot. Eli's not doing that. He's
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  just a very different person, but that shouldn't
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  be the reason why you're not a first ballot Hall
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  of Famer. Two Super Bowls, that's all. Moving
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  on. And I think Frank Gore should be in, too.
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  I don't. He did it for a long time. I don't think
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  he should do it for a first ballot. I think it'll
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  be a few attempts for him. How many do they get
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  in each year? So it's four to eight technically,
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  but it's for overall because there's modern and
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  then there's like a group of other ones. But
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  for the modern, it's usually like three or four,
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  they say. Maximum of five. How many years can
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  you be on the ballot? Good question, because
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  Darren Woodson's been on the frickin' ballot
• 18:45
  for 18 years. So now this year he's not on the
• 18:49
  ballot? No, he is. He is. He's a finalist again.
• 18:51
  I don't think Darren Woodson's a finalist again.
• 18:52
  I don't think Darren Woodson's a finalist again.
• 18:54
  If you make it to the top seven. And you don't
• 18:57
  get put into the hall. It's an automatic bid
• 19:00
  to get into the finalists next year and the top
• 19:03
  15 the following year. Gotcha. Clear as mud.
• 19:06
  I don't know if Marshall Yonda should be in the
• 19:08
  Hall of Fame, so I'll poo -poo a Raven. Like,
• 19:10
  Marshall Yonda was great. He was a great guard
• 19:13
  for the Ravens. I don't know if he is necessarily
• 19:16
  Hall of Fame worthy. I love that he's in the
• 19:18
  Ring of Honor in Baltimore. deserving of it um
• 19:22
  uh and i also think t sizzle not getting uh first
• 19:27
  ballot hall of fame was kind of a smack to the
• 19:30
  face too and i think he's all right all right
• 19:33
  well we have some uh skewed thoughts we'll say
• 19:36
  on the last one i gotta know drew brace 100 in
• 19:40
  no I'm just kidding. I was like, you know, it's
• 19:44
  too many NFL records. That was like making my
• 19:46
  brain twist. I was like, why? All right. All
• 19:49
  right. All right. Let's move on. All right. What
• 19:51
  do we got? Oh, that was the last thing on my
• 19:52
  list. Damn. Okay. Um, well, uh, um, Justin, that's
• 19:57
  your name. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for being here,
• 19:59
  buddy. Appreciate it. Of course. Who else is
• 20:03
  here? Roberto is here as well. He's going to
• 20:05
  be here for the next one, too. Yes, I am. I'm
• 20:07
  ready for the next one. More football. Jake,
• 20:11
  you're not. Your ride's outside. I'm going to
• 20:15
  be riding the Derrick Henry bus. If he's in the
• 20:18
  game. Jake, thanks for being here, buddy. There's
• 20:21
  plenty of gas left in that man's tank. Okay.
• 20:25
  Kev, thanks for being here, man. I don't know.
• 20:28
  I'm uncomfortable. Yeah, we're going to leave
• 20:29
  it alone. That's why we're moving on. I'm just
• 20:31
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