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  Speaker 2: This is Cowboys Storyline presented by Gillette, the official shave
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  Speaker 2: of the Dallas Cowboys. Here's Nick Eatman.
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  Speaker 1: What's up? Welcome to Cowboys storyline presented by Gillette. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Nick Eatman. It's Wednesday, January the twenty first. We're back
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  Speaker 1: to just once show a week, but we do get
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  Speaker 1: about an hour and a half, so got plenty of
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  Speaker 1: time for you guys to call in. Guys that call
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  Speaker 1: in all the time, people that haven't called in a while,
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  Speaker 1: which seems like we've got some of that. We got
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  Speaker 1: both of that on the line so far. All right,
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys news or lack of news. Still waiting to see
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  Speaker 1: what's going to happen with the defensive coordinator position. They
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  Speaker 1: obviously have interviewed a lot of people, and it looks
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  Speaker 1: like some coaches are getting interviewed or getting a request
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  Speaker 1: to go to other places. So this is that time.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of shuffling going on. The Senior Bowl is
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  Speaker 1: next week. We've got the Shrine Bowl this week. Here
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  Speaker 1: in that the Sports Center over in frist Go right
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  Speaker 1: over here and it looks like they got a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more players this year, a better players, better quality guys.
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  Speaker 1: So two All Star Games kind of happened at once.
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  Speaker 1: It still feels like the Senior Bowl is the one
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  Speaker 1: that's going to have, you know, more more talent. Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: with two first round picks, no day two picks as
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  Speaker 1: it stands, and usually in the Senior Bowl, that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of where you're going to get a lot of those guys,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of second, third rounders. Occasionally you'll have some
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  Speaker 1: some first rounders. And I would imagine there'll be a
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  Speaker 1: couple that'll be there at the Senior Bowl, the Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: we'll be able to talk to. We'll have some of
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  Speaker 1: our crew there, Kyle Yeomans and Tommy Yarsh will be there,
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  Speaker 1: and then they'll have a couple of Jeff shows from there.
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  Speaker 1: All right. As far as Pro Bowl news, Jake Ferguson
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  Speaker 1: was added to the Pro Bowl. Cowboys now have six
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  Speaker 1: players that make the Pro Bowl. That that news was
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  Speaker 1: just announced, So Ferguson makes it for the second time,
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  Speaker 1: and I think he replaced the George Kettle who was
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  Speaker 1: injured in the playoffs. So Trey McBride, Jake ferguson the
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  Speaker 1: two tight ends from the NFC. All right, let's go
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  Speaker 1: to the phone lines. Let's go Josh and Princeton. Josh,
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  Speaker 1: what's up man?
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  Speaker 3: Hey, what's up Nick?
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  Speaker 1: How you doing?
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing good. I've been listening to all the shows.
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  Speaker 4: Haven't called into in a while, but I wanted to
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  Speaker 4: mission something that I don't think I've heard anybody say yet.
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  Speaker 4: But you remember Vegas had the Cowboys in the preseason
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  Speaker 4: or the offseason, had the Cowboys winning seven games, and
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  Speaker 4: I remember everybody being in disbelief based on like the
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  Speaker 4: offense and everything like that, And I never thought that
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  Speaker 4: they were only win seven games unless your injury. So
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  Speaker 4: I just want to bring it.
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  Speaker 1: Up, like, when when was that? Was that before the
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  Speaker 1: trade or after the trade? You said it was in
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  Speaker 1: the offseason.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was in the off season, so they already
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  Speaker 4: had pickings. I know that, and Dak was healthy, so yeah, again,
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  Speaker 4: I think that was before the Forces trade too, I believe. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they had the Cowboys winning seven games, So I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: how do they do that? How do they ridiculate?
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, you're right, and it happens. It happens
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  Speaker 1: in football games, basketball games where they're right on the
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  Speaker 1: Bundy and then then it doesn't happen sometimes, And and
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  Speaker 1: you know what, where did they have the Bears? Where
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  Speaker 1: did they have some of the other you know, some
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  Speaker 1: other surprising teams. But you know that's interesting because I
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  Speaker 1: really believe if you if Micah was on this team
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  Speaker 1: and they had a legitimate pass rush, I think they
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  Speaker 1: have a much better team. So but hey, maybe Vegas
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  Speaker 1: knew about the trade before anyone else did. Who knows.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and there one one last point about the off season.
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  Speaker 4: So when DeMarcus Lawrence got pulled when he got picked
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  Speaker 4: up the Seahawks, and he made the whole super Bowl quote,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna win the Super Bowl in Dallas, but
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  Speaker 4: now I look at him his team as boys to
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  Speaker 4: make a strong effort to get there. So just two
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  Speaker 4: things I thought was just completely far fitched and looks
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  Speaker 4: like it's happening.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, well, wait to pump some sunshine into the show. Josh,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for for getting it started for us. That's awesome,
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  Speaker 1: all right, now, you're you're right, Thanks for thanks for
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  Speaker 1: the call. And yeah, when when DeMarcus said that, I
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  Speaker 1: mean everybody kind of scoffed at that and they should.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, seeah, you know, Seattle hasn't hasn't been a team,
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  Speaker 1: you know, knocking on the door every year. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys haven't either. But you know, I think what was
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  Speaker 1: what was funny about the quote was, you know, say
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  Speaker 1: what you really want to say. It wasn't about the
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. It wasn't about that. It was it was
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  Speaker 1: about the fact that he was not the leader of
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  Speaker 1: the defense anymore and Mike, him and Michael Parsons didn't
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  Speaker 1: get along, and it was very evident that they didn't
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  Speaker 1: like each other, and they showed that, you know, as
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  Speaker 1: they tweeted at each other out the door and all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff. When I guarantee, if the Cowboys had made
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  Speaker 1: that trade earlier in the offseason and got you know,
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  Speaker 1: gotten some picks for the last year's draft and had
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  Speaker 1: the money, and they probably would have resigned to Marcus
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  Speaker 1: and he would have been fine with that. So it
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  Speaker 1: had nothing to me. It had nothing to do with
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  Speaker 1: all that super Bowl talk. You can say that, but
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  Speaker 1: it was really I think it was a battle of
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  Speaker 1: egos there, and unfortunately for the Cowboys, they didn't get
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  Speaker 1: either one of them. And that was a position of need,
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  Speaker 1: all right, Irene Falls Church, Virginia, Irene. What's up?
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  Speaker 5: Hey, good morning, How are you good?
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  Speaker 1: How are you doing good?
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  Speaker 6: Pretty good?
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  Speaker 5: Ready for arctic blasts coming in and snow, So we'll go.
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  Speaker 7: We'll go from there.
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  Speaker 1: Ye, make sure it will be every Monday on this sometimes,
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  Speaker 1: so they'll they'll be. I'll have it covered for you
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  Speaker 1: with all the weather.
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  Speaker 5: I'll call in on Monday anyway.
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  Speaker 8: All right.
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  Speaker 5: So as far as our coaching search goes, I think
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  Speaker 5: the big fear is that we're waiting on Jim Leonard
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  Speaker 5: and maybe Jared Sindham pulls off the upset and then
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  Speaker 5: he gets you know, he can't talk to him, can't
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  Speaker 5: sign him, and then somebody else gets him, maybe even
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  Speaker 5: in New York or something, and then in the meantime,
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  Speaker 5: Parker goes away, Jones goes away, and then we end
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  Speaker 5: up with Scannon. So is there any buddy else out there?
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  Speaker 9: Do you think that we're going.
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  Speaker 5: To make a move and not wait on Jim Leonard?
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  Speaker 5: What's the vibe in the building on that?
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  Speaker 9: My question for all right?
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate it. I mean good stuff. You know, there's no
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  Speaker 1: rhyme or reason to anything, and I there's a reason
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  Speaker 1: why I haven't really just gone, you know, a deep
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  Speaker 1: dive into this. It's just they don't have to tell you,
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  Speaker 1: you know, what they're doing all the time and kind
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  Speaker 1: of what the thought process is. But the fact that
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  Speaker 1: you have kind of a round of interviews and now
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  Speaker 1: you're doing kind of a second wave of and some
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  Speaker 1: of them are now in person, you're starting to get
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  Speaker 1: the sense that, Okay, maybe these are kind of the
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  Speaker 1: guys that they they you know, the pool, But that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't mean that something can't change. I just, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I find it funny when a lot of people say
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  Speaker 1: this would be a great hire, this would be a
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  Speaker 1: great hire, and I don't like this guy. And I'll
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  Speaker 1: be honest, I don't know. I don't know anything. And
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon didn't have the quote that everyone's referring to
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  Speaker 1: about you driving to work today you got fire in
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  Speaker 1: your belly or whatever that is. I mean, if he
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  Speaker 1: didn't have that, I mean more people might be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this guy's been pretty good. But I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's easy to say, all right, all right out with him.
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  Speaker 1: All I know is that I was totally on board
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  Speaker 1: with Matt Eberflus. I thought that was going to be
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  Speaker 1: a really really great hire. He's been a really great coordinator,
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  Speaker 1: and I thought this would be a really good move
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  Speaker 1: for the Cowboys and it wasn't. So I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 1: sit here and say like, I don't like this guy.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like this guy. I don't know what they're
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  Speaker 1: saying in those meetings. All I know is this figure
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  Speaker 1: out a way to get pass rush. As I was
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  Speaker 1: driving into work today, I was kind of thinking, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm not on the draft show like like these
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  Speaker 1: you know the other guys are, and and know you
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  Speaker 1: know who your best talent is. But you know you
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  Speaker 1: can get a pass rusher at twelve. He's probably not
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  Speaker 1: gonna be like all world elite, or he wouldn't. He
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't eleven teams wouldn't pass on that. But you can
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  Speaker 1: get a guy with really good traits and some burst
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  Speaker 1: off the edge and you know, somebody that can develop
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  Speaker 1: into a really great pass rusher. That guy will be
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  Speaker 1: there at twelve. He might be there at twenty. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sitting here thinking as I'm driving in, like, would you
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  Speaker 1: be really mad? Would an't want to be upset if
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  Speaker 1: it was twelve and twenty two pass rushers? I mean
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  Speaker 1: obviously one little better than the other two pass rushers
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  Speaker 1: twelve and twenty. Because what do you have? You have, Aziraku,
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  Speaker 1: you have I mean Houston, I guess is still under contract,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean Sam Williams is not under contract. Fowler's not.
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  Speaker 1: Neither's Clowning. And maybe you sign resigned Clowning. I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have a lot of interest in signing the
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  Speaker 1: other two guys, but you know, maybe with a different coordinator,
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  Speaker 1: he could, you know, you could be a little different there.
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  Speaker 1: But I'd be fine if they drafted two. I haven't
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  Speaker 1: heard that. I heard people say linebacker corner or linebacker
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  Speaker 1: Devens Van or something. It was two pass rushers. Though
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  Speaker 1: it wouldn't it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all. All right,
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  Speaker 1: Ryan and Kansas City.
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  Speaker 10: Good morning, sir. How are you good?
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  Speaker 1: How are you doing?
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  Speaker 10: I'm all right, man. Not to be the Mickey Spagnola
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  Speaker 10: weather report, but I think it might even be warmer
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  Speaker 10: up here than it is down there, which just never happens.
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  Speaker 10: Somebody was telling me it's going to get down to
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  Speaker 10: twenty or you know, something something like that. Yeah, hope
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  Speaker 10: you guys stay safe and warm and if you get
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  Speaker 10: a nice storm, everything goes all right down there.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well, we'll see, we'll see how all goes.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it, this is the way this leads off
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  Speaker 1: the news. I mean, you know what I mean, the Cowboys,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Jerry could sell the team and it would
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  Speaker 1: be second on the news that you know, if if
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  Speaker 1: there's snow flurries in the air, I mean, that's going
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  Speaker 1: to lead it off. And then after that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: anything else.
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  Speaker 10: And the terrible luck to have that weather for their
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  Speaker 10: one Super Bowl that they got the host, you know,
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  Speaker 10: just just the awful day.
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  Speaker 1: That it was week yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Yep, yeah. Hey, So I wanted to talk about the
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  Speaker 10: defensive backs for a second, and I got to I'll
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  Speaker 10: just join in with you saying that I was on
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  Speaker 10: board with eber Flus two. Yeah, he was supposed to
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  Speaker 10: be a linebacker whisper and the three tech was going
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  Speaker 10: to be our hero in his system.
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  Speaker 1: And I just wonder if if, if if he had
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  Speaker 1: a real pass rusher, like a real one one that
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  Speaker 1: people were worried about, and had double team and chip
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  Speaker 1: and all that stuff, it might have been it might
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  Speaker 1: have been completely different, you know, or or they might
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  Speaker 1: have just been okay on defense, which would have been
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  Speaker 1: good enough to win a few more games. But well
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  Speaker 1: we'll find out, you know, hopefully he lands on his
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  Speaker 1: feet and hopefully this team gets some pass rushing and
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  Speaker 1: we'll see, you know, all of a sudden, some of
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  Speaker 1: these linebackers in safeties are like, oh, these guys are
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  Speaker 1: better than than they were. So that's kind of what
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  Speaker 1: I think. I think. I think it's got to start
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  Speaker 1: as pass rusher. That's why if it's one pick or
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  Speaker 1: two picks, I'd be fine with them.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, no, absolutely, we got to double him down, would
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  Speaker 10: be absolutely fine. So here's my take on on our
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  Speaker 10: defensive back room that I guess maybe it's a little
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  Speaker 10: different than other people. I think our defensive back room
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  Speaker 10: is nowhere near in the same dire straits as the
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  Speaker 10: edge rush in the linebackers. You know, knowing that we
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  Speaker 10: just resigned Bland, I know he's got a problem with
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  Speaker 10: his foot and he's having surgery on the same foot
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  Speaker 10: in two years now, but we just resigned him. But
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  Speaker 10: I think we got to give him a chance to
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  Speaker 10: be the starter. Yeah, and the same thing with his
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  Speaker 10: name just went right out of my head. Yes, Revel,
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  Speaker 10: you know, everybody said he's a first round talent. We
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  Speaker 10: got him in the third. I think we have to
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  Speaker 10: at least give him a chance to be the starter
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  Speaker 10: before we move on. And I know Reddy Stewart's not
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  Speaker 10: I think Reddy Stewart's not under contract. You probably already
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  Speaker 10: know this. I just looked at I didn't see him
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  Speaker 10: listed on the over the cap, so I'm guessing that
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  Speaker 10: means he's a free agent. But you know, listening to
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  Speaker 10: people who do pro scouting, it sounded like he had
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  Speaker 10: a pretty good year. So I just am not in
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  Speaker 10: the in the mode of, hey, we have to get
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  Speaker 10: a defensive back. So I'll let you take that one,
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  Speaker 10: and wherever you want to take it. Good to talk
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  Speaker 10: to you, certainly.
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  Speaker 1: All right, appreciate it. Thanks. I would be fine with
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  Speaker 1: them drafting a corner because you know, I think you know,
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  Speaker 1: they say Bland's gonna be fine. They're not too concerned
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  Speaker 1: about by it. And you're right, he's under contract and
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna be here, and he's gonna have every opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to keep, you know, being the starter for for a
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  Speaker 1: while now when he was healthy, or think he was healthy,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because I mean, he say that just I'm
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  Speaker 1: not I'm not trying to throw an excuse, but he
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  Speaker 1: did have surgery on a foot. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think he just woke up and said out this hurts.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's probably something that was happening
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  Speaker 1: for a while. But you know, he he's not the
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  Speaker 1: lockdown corner. I mean, he he's he can you know,
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  Speaker 1: don't keep throwing at him because he's gonna he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: pick one off and probably take it back to the house.
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  Speaker 1: But he gets beat and he did the year that
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  Speaker 1: he was finished in the top five, a defensive Player
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  Speaker 1: of the Year he got you know, there were times
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  Speaker 1: for that. But you know, he's opportunistic, he makes plays
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  Speaker 1: and and he's he can be a really good player.
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  Speaker 1: But you need more help there. And we'll see what
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  Speaker 1: happens with Revel. So I I'd be okay with them drafting.
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  Speaker 1: Uh you know, they're gonna add more corners, maybe a
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  Speaker 1: veteran and free agency as well, but I'd be fine
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  Speaker 1: with him with them drafted one. I mean, it's just
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  Speaker 1: gonna see how how the board falls.
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  Speaker 11: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I just got done saying I'd be fine
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  Speaker 1: if it was you know, hey, get there at twelve,
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  Speaker 1: take take the best player, Take the best, Take the
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  Speaker 1: best player on defense. I would think it would probably
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  Speaker 1: be the smart move there. And if you know, if
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  Speaker 1: that's going to be a pass rusher, great, If it's
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  Speaker 1: a corner, if it's a safety, okay, And he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: have to be a really good one, but it sounds
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  Speaker 1: like he would be. And then at twenty, see see
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  Speaker 1: what happens. And you know, if you if you drafted
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  Speaker 1: a corner at twelve and then took another one, that
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  Speaker 1: would be kind of an interesting move considering of what
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  Speaker 1: you do have here. But uh, wouldn't necessarily be opposed
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  Speaker 1: to it. You know, just just got to get two
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  Speaker 1: really good playmakers on defense, and wherever they are, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to be able to help you. So all right,
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  Speaker 1: Josh in Chicago, Man.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, not too much.
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  Speaker 12: How you been.
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  Speaker 1: I'm good.
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  Speaker 7: I've been thinking I got to start trying like some
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  Speaker 7: catchphrases like some of these other people, but I don't
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  Speaker 7: know what to do yet. So I was thinking, you know,
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  Speaker 7: as an attorney, we say, may please in the court
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  Speaker 7: before we start our arguments.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you already have one?
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  Speaker 11: What's that?
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  Speaker 1: And you actually didn't bring it to me, what do
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  Speaker 1: I what Chicago doesn't I'm sorry, No, I don't.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, Atlanta, you probably think exactly.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I always you guys together. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: have no idea in Chicago, Zach in Atlanta, that's right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you got you gotta get something. Let's figure something out here.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely. So, Hey, I was thinking about what you're
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  Speaker 7: just saying. Man, and two thousand and five, you know,
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  Speaker 7: we got two passed rushers and one of them was
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  Speaker 7: a contributor and the other one became you know, Hall
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  Speaker 7: of Famer. So yeah, and I think draft picks were
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  Speaker 7: pretty close, right eleven and twenty. I think we're actually
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  Speaker 7: the draft picks. So you know, yes, I think you
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  Speaker 7: know the draft. We'll see what kind of plays out
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  Speaker 7: in free agency first and where we can maybe you know,
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  Speaker 7: move back a couple of picks, and I'm with you.
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  Speaker 7: I want two first round picks, but if we can
• 16:22
  Speaker 7: move back because people are available, then I would. I'd
• 16:24
  Speaker 7: like to get some capital for day you know, day
• 16:26
  Speaker 7: two as well. But other than that, you know, the
• 16:29
  Speaker 7: defensive coordinators search. I just wanted to bring up really quick.
• 16:32
  Speaker 7: I'm really happy with the fact that they're bringing a
• 16:34
  Speaker 7: lot of people in and I don't know if we
• 16:35
  Speaker 7: can say names technically, I know the season's over for
• 16:38
  Speaker 7: this guy, but I think back a few years ago,
• 16:40
  Speaker 7: it was Christmas Shard was like a guy that other
• 16:44
  Speaker 7: teams really liked and we kind of really liked that.
• 16:46
  Speaker 7: I would like to see him kind of come in
• 16:48
  Speaker 7: and see what he can bring, or maybe, you know,
• 16:49
  Speaker 7: at least give them an interview to him. Other than that,
• 16:52
  Speaker 7: I just got a question for you all.
• 16:53
  Speaker 8: Take off the air.
• 16:55
  Speaker 7: A few weeks ago, we were talking a lot about commitment.
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: Who's been the most committed player you've seen in terms
• 16:59
  Speaker 7: of practice and study and everything else?
• 17:02
  Speaker 8: Ever?
• 17:03
  Speaker 7: Hold on, ever, ever, ever, yeah, ever since you've been covering,
• 17:06
  Speaker 7: since you've been covering the team. Yeah, because I think
• 17:08
  Speaker 7: it's probably that you're going to say someone like Sean Lee.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean I well, it's hard
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: to beat him. Yeah, That's that's the one that comes
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: to mind. There's no doubt about it. And there's a
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: story that I think of there. But but yeah, I'll
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: see if I can throw another one in there. Thanks, Thanks, Josh.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. You know, I just remember that
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: year his rookie year. We were playing a preseason game
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: in San Diego from Oxnard.
• 17:38
  Speaker 13: Is that right?
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah? We were going from Oxnard down to San Diego
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: and taking the train and uh, you know, we've done
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: that a few times. And and I remember I had
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: an interview scheduled with Sean Lee and he kind of like, well,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: it can't be this day, and I'm gonna have to
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: push it back here. And so the question was, why
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: don't you just get once? You just get him, you know,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: as we're on the on the train. Are you okay
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: with that? We got about two hours three hours here.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's fine. So I'm like, all right,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I'll just go find him where he is and all that.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: And this is like he's getting ready for like his
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: first preseason game, maybe the second one, playing the Chargers
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: down there. And I'm like cool, you know, fine, So
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I'm about to get it set up. And then pr
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: comes back to me and I was like, you know what,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: he's he's too focused on this. He's study and he's
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: trying to figure this out and like the games tomorrow,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: and it was a preseason game, and I was like, really,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: you know, it's like he's he's just locked in. And
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, that's that's different. But as it
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: turns out, that was him. That was him from the
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: very first day he was here. He was locked in
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: all the time, trying to get it. You know, his
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: his nose in the playbook. I think it really was
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: a playbook back then. I don't know if it was
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: an iPad, but but that's just kind of who he was.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: And and man, you know, it was hard. It's hard
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: to beat that. I mean, I think from what I've
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: heard late in Vanderish was kind of the same way
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: because he learned something from him and and and he.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, they just they just love football, and so
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: that that's just it sounds good. It sounds like a cliche,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: but I think it it goes a long long way,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: because if you really love the game and you hate
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: to lose, and you're gonna do everything you can, then
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: then you'll you'll take that extra time and study and
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: you'll try to get anything you can on your opponent
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: and figure them out. More than just guys that are
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: just playing the game. It's it's you know, playing it
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: to to win and get better. And and then if
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: you do all that, then the money will come and
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: and and the contracts and stuff like that. But you know,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: you can tell a lot about about how people feel
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: about these games just by just by seeing them on
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: on the plane. And that's not something to report or anything,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: but you can tell after a game, especially a loss,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: who you know, who's okay and who isn't. I mean,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: that's just that's just part of it. And then it
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean get rid of guy that don't love football
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: or smiling after a game that happens. But the ones
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: that really really care, that are absolutely dedicated and study
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: all the time, to me, those are the ones you want.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: And I think the Cowboys, I've said it before, I
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: think the Cowboys really need to hone in on that
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: a little bit more, especially in these second, third, and
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: fourth round picks. Those guys have they're going to be
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: there for a reason, whether they have off the field issues,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: whether they were injured, whether they're they're forty times a
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: little bit slower. But to me, find those guys that
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: absolutely want to play football, like Sean Lee in the
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: second round. Get a guy like that, Yeah, you had
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: to deal with injury issues, but he was he was
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: a really really good player all right, Let's go to
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Lester in Minnesota.
• 20:44
  Speaker 14: And Nick. Hey, Lester, Hey, man, I'm no more injured players.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Man, we don't need any more injured.
• 20:52
  Speaker 14: Player because, like I've been saying, they can't most of
• 20:56
  Speaker 14: the time, they can't play the first season or they
• 20:59
  Speaker 14: play half the season or whatever first season, so they're
• 21:02
  Speaker 14: really I mean, I don't this is kind of harsh,
• 21:06
  Speaker 14: but for the first season, they're really kind of useless,
• 21:09
  Speaker 14: you know. I mean they can learn, they can learn
• 21:11
  Speaker 14: to playbook and all that, but they're not really participating
• 21:15
  Speaker 14: and and everything else. So let's Nate once said, when
• 21:22
  Speaker 14: you play football and you get injured, you don't You're
• 21:25
  Speaker 14: not you don't get healthier. You tend to be more injured,
• 21:31
  Speaker 14: you know, as you go along. I don't, you know,
• 21:33
  Speaker 14: I don't. I only play high school football. But that
• 21:36
  Speaker 14: made sense. I mean, he played for years, so I
• 21:39
  Speaker 14: believe what he's saying. So therefore that's why I say,
• 21:42
  Speaker 14: you know, I mean, you can find some injured players,
• 21:45
  Speaker 14: I guess, but man, let's let's get them way down
• 21:48
  Speaker 14: the line that's there for six round or something.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Well, okay, all right, Lester, I mean appreciate the call.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: And there's there's a lot to that. I mean, I
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: think just now, that's calls that we've had, and I
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: don't think you would disagree with Brian from Kansas City
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: that you know, sounds pretty optimistic about Rebel. So you
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: okay with that? You okay with saying I'm gonna take
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: this guy in the third round. Uh, he probably would
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: have been a first rounder. You know, we'll see how
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: that that year went out, but that was the projection.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: But he's not gonna give you a lot in this
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: first season. And then you know, he came in, he
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: played some, So now when he goes out there, this
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: is not the first time he's ever played. He probably
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: needs to play some in the preseason and all and
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. But that's that's what he needs. But
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: you have that under his belt and let's see if
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: he can develop into that. I think most teams were,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: most people, fans were fine with that. So it just
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: kind of depends. I mean, third round to me is
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: kind of the cutoff. But I think the issue that
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I've always had is doing it in the second round
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: when your free agent approach has never been that strong.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: It's always been let's build through the draft, build through
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: the draft, maybe take a flyer here and there in
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: free agency, but you're not breaking the bank there. The
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: focus was always the draft. That's fine, but your second
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: round pick can't be that risky. Then that that was
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: kind of my issue one way or another. Either go
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: crazy in free agency and then you know, try to
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: get some value in these drafts, or if you're not
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: going to do that and if you're really going to
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: focus on the draft and get me some guys that
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: could come and step right in and play. And so
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: that's we'll see. You know, I don't have a second
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: round pick, but well, we'll see. But that approach really
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: didn't work that well. I mentioned Sean Lee that was
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: twenty ten. They had them graded high as a first rounder,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: got him in the second round. Since then, some of
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: those plays like that really didn't pan out. So all right,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: let's go one more call it before we go to break.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Chris and San Angelo. Chris, what's up man?
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: Hey, mister Nick, how you Bud good?
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: How are you?
• 23:58
  Speaker 13: I'm doing well? Thank you?
• 23:59
  Speaker 8: Hey?
• 24:00
  Speaker 13: I just had one question. It kind of it kind
• 24:02
  Speaker 13: of feeds off of Irene's first question, but just another
• 24:06
  Speaker 13: different take with all of the head coach vacancies now
• 24:11
  Speaker 13: they will. Do you think that the Cowboys should act
• 24:16
  Speaker 13: quick on the defensive coordinator because of all of the
• 24:19
  Speaker 13: staff that are going to need to be filled, or
• 24:23
  Speaker 13: do you think they should hold off until like another
• 24:26
  Speaker 13: playoff round and finish the search then, because it seems
• 24:30
  Speaker 13: like a little predicament, you know, because I'd like to
• 24:33
  Speaker 13: see some urgency, but also don't want them to settle.
• 24:37
  Speaker 13: So I just want to see what you thought about it.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that there's a lot to that. Thanks
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: thanks for the call that that's that's good thinking there,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: because you know, there's other opportunities that that that play
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: you know a factor here. Some of these guys maybe
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: are trying to be head coaches, some of them maybe
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: want to be coordinators on on other teams, and and
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: the on the opportunity depending on, you know, what kind
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: of success you can have there. You know, you look
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: at this team right now, and and if you're a coordinator,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: obviously the guys that want to be a coordinator that
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: that you know they're trying to get to that level,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: then yeah, you take your opportunity. But if you've got
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: multiple chances, let's let's be honest about it. I mean,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: is this the best spot if I don't know, I mean,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to compare some others you've got.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: You've got some pieces here, you know, especially a defensive
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: tackle you can definitely build around. But you know, it's it.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: It was the worst defense in the NFL and in
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of categories and the only the only team
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: here in franchise history that that's allowed thirty points a game.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: So there's a lot of improvement needed here. Now the
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: bar is low. You come in here and make this
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: thing the number fourteenth the best defense in the league.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're not gonna they're not gonna bang. You know,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: they're not gonna hang a banner, but they're definitely gonna gonna,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: you know, say this guy, this guy knows what he's doing. So, uh,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: it's a good place to come in here and try
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: to and try to change something. So it's all about perspective,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: it's all about the right fit. I think the Cowboys
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: would love to find the right guy here, but you know,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: they they're gonna, I don't know about take their time.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I mean that they've been pretty aggressive here, but at
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: this point, uh, you know, they got to make sure
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: they make the right higher and and and and that
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: that hires got to make the right decision for him,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: and it will, it'll happen. Some of these games might
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: be throwing a wrench, you know, into it a little bit.
• 26:31
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• 28:51
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  Speaker 1: And now he's going to Super Bowl least someone is
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• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Michael Bowling, Green, Kentucky.
• 29:14
  Speaker 11: Okay, First off, I am not going to mention the
• 29:18
  Speaker 11: weather he just did. Second, I heard a podcast this
• 29:24
  Speaker 11: morning they said they were getting a little nervous with
• 29:27
  Speaker 11: how long they were taking to find a DC. What's
• 29:31
  Speaker 11: your opinion on that. Are they doing right by really
• 29:35
  Speaker 11: doing their due diligence and taking a lot of time
• 29:38
  Speaker 11: or is it time to pick one?
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Can I wait until like about week six of the
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: season and see how good the defense is. And then
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: then and then I'll say, you know what, whatever they
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: end up doing it is like that, that's fine. Like honestly,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: like I don't really care that much. I mean as
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: far as when, when it is and when, you know,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: just get just get the right guy, pick the right one.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, what what if what if they rushed I mean.
• 30:07
  Speaker 11: I don't think about it.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: They had that they did. I mean, they didn't have
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: a head coach, they had a defensive coordinator. That seems
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: pretty rushed. You're cool with that. I mean, so, okay,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I just answered my own question. Just get the right guy.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Just get the right guy. Hopefully it's not long it takes.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean, you know if if
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: they they maybe they offer a guy right now and
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: he's like, well he's not interested, I mean he's not
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: ready to commit. Well then then maybe it's not the
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: right guy. It'll it'll it'll be fine, it'll it'll work.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: They'll have they'll have the right guy in here and
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: you know, ready to go. I don't think you rush it.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe it was rushed last year and then
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: that didn't work. So I'll say take your time a
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: little bit on.
• 30:47
  Speaker 11: It, all right, I was just going opinion.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: What's yours? What's yours?
• 30:51
  Speaker 11: I mean, I think they need I mean, I know
• 30:55
  Speaker 11: they're probably waiting till next week, hopefully Denver loses and
• 30:59
  Speaker 11: then they another guy that can tell it to But uh,
• 31:03
  Speaker 11: I don't know. I think uh, I think I'd rather
• 31:06
  Speaker 11: go slow and make the right get the right right guy.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think I think so too. I mean,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: because if you if you came back and said, well,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: they kind of wanted these guys, but they got impatient
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: so that they just took this guy, and you know,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: now here they are in the in the same boat.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, but you know, when you when you're in
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: those if you're in those positions, you know, and and
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if it's football coaches or not, if
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: you're in a position of hiring, you you know, you
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: just kind of you kind of have a good feeling
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: about it, you know, and you're like, whatever it is,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: and maybe it's the first guy interview, maybe it's the
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: last one, maybe it's somewhere in between, but you kind
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: of know. And and this is not to be not
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: to joke about it, but this is kind of the
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: first time the shot. He's really really done this. Now.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: I know that they said he was a part of
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: the Eberflus thing and all that, but he's trying to
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: be the head coach. He's trying to be the head coach.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: He's get in here, you know, and and hey, ever
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Flus the guy? Sure, Yeah, he's the guy. Are you
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: cool with that? Yeah, he's he's good linebacker, whisper all that,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: you know. But now he's really really kind of doing it.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: So it'll it's got to be the right person for him.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: And then if it's the right person for him, then
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: it should be the right one for the whole staff.
• 32:18
  Speaker 11: Well, probably announce this afternoon the defensive course.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well if that's the case, then, you know, then
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: then we'll say good a lot of time, you know,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: to hit the ground running, all right, Michael, Good stuff,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Alie and Florida.
• 32:37
  Speaker 9: Good morning, sir.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: How are you doing pretty good?
• 32:40
  Speaker 18: Buddy?
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: How about you great?
• 32:43
  Speaker 9: I I gotta stat for you since you love a stat.
• 32:49
  Speaker 11: Okay, and.
• 32:52
  Speaker 9: I'm not so knowledgeable, but it's pretty close. You can't
• 32:56
  Speaker 9: correct me if I'm wrong. Seems passiven years Cowboys play
• 33:03
  Speaker 9: and Cowboys drafted sixty four players. Then they signed eighty
• 33:11
  Speaker 9: one undrafted free agent for total of one hundred and
• 33:15
  Speaker 9: forty five player. Out of all that they have four
• 33:21
  Speaker 9: plow pro bowler and ten starter Bath Hoffman, frie Go, Steel, Hunter,
• 33:31
  Speaker 9: so forth. So me and you and you personally even
• 33:37
  Speaker 9: go through the first round, second round, I mean the
• 33:40
  Speaker 9: draft department, scouting department Cowboys with the last I looked
• 33:47
  Speaker 9: a top nine ninth position of the best team drafting players.
• 33:53
  Speaker 9: But they have a hit at all. They need to
• 33:55
  Speaker 9: bring the little heat on these guys. Then as far
• 33:59
  Speaker 9: as the draft pick, the twelve pick, they're usually be successful.
• 34:04
  Speaker 9: I wouldn't trade that, except right now, the Oregon quarterback
• 34:11
  Speaker 9: is going back to school. I think Jet has two
• 34:15
  Speaker 9: first round there. I think it's the number sixteen or fifteen.
• 34:20
  Speaker 9: So and then you got called. You got some of
• 34:24
  Speaker 9: these team they might want to pick up a little
• 34:27
  Speaker 9: bit later on quarterback. I don't mind if they go
• 34:30
  Speaker 9: from twelve to fifteen or fourteen pick up an extra pit,
• 34:35
  Speaker 9: especially Jet because they have some of our pick. Then
• 34:39
  Speaker 9: on the twentieth I would definitely consider vote for the
• 34:44
  Speaker 9: guy on the West coast. And then you have really
• 34:50
  Speaker 9: nice defensive line between the clerk and Clinton and him
• 34:56
  Speaker 9: and fill in the blank. I think that would be
• 34:59
  Speaker 9: because right now, don't not hitting it. I think between
• 35:03
  Speaker 9: Themester Jones and back timeline we have to bring some
• 35:09
  Speaker 9: first day free agent to fill the blank. And I
• 35:12
  Speaker 9: love you, brother, thank you so much for what you do,
• 35:15
  Speaker 9: all right, and I'll hang over.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: This all right, appreciate it. Um, I'm not gonna sit
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: here and say that that you know they've been great
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: at drafting. Those numbers you threw out, I think I
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: heard you say seven seven drafts and four Pro Bowlers.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: It's not accurate if that's what I heard. Thought I
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: heard it that way. Seven drafts. It takes you back
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: to twenty nineteen. So I've got since twenty nineteen guys
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: that you drafted that made the Pro Bowl. Eight so
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: be Ottish Pollard, Cee Diggs, Micah Tyler Smith, thron Bland, Ferguson.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Now they had in the last three drafts twenty three,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty five. It's three years you haven't
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: drafted one yet and your first round picks down on
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: the team and Mazzie Smith so hasn't been great here lately,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: but kind of went back seven years and you know
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: seven years you got you got eight Pro bowlers. Now.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: I just saw this the other day. Connor McGovern from
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen third round pick Penn State was here for years,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: a few years, played some guard, then went to the
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Bills and a free agency he made the Pro Bowl.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I didn't even realize he made the Pro Bowl two
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: years ago there, So I don't know if that counts
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: as drafting a Pro bowler. He Pro Bowl with another team.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: But it's been it's been okay in the first round,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: first second round. But you know, they haven't really hit
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: a lot of big big names there, especially in the
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: later rounds. That one year, twenty twenty two, they did
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Ferguson in the fourth, Bland in the fifth. That that was.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: That was good. But since then they were, or even
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: a couple of years before then the fourth, fifth, round, six, seventh,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: really haven't had a lot. Uh, don't do it all right,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: let's go our next caller, Chris. We got another caller? Yes, yes,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Davion Da. What's that man?
• 37:26
  Speaker 9: What to do?
• 37:27
  Speaker 18: Buddy?
• 37:27
  Speaker 8: What a do? Ma?
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: How you doing?
• 37:30
  Speaker 19: Man? We're good. I was at a couple of NDS
• 37:33
  Speaker 19: run this morning. I prout of I wouldn't.
• 37:35
  Speaker 11: I ain't.
• 37:35
  Speaker 19: I ain't get on earth like I normally do. But
• 37:38
  Speaker 19: everything's all good. I guess I was. I mean here
• 37:42
  Speaker 19: watching and listening to the show for a little bit,
• 37:45
  Speaker 19: and I guess I don't understand why our fan base don't.
• 37:50
  Speaker 19: Is the cowboy, damned the duke, damnits? They don't. I mean,
• 37:52
  Speaker 19: if we rush and hire a guy, you mad, we
• 37:56
  Speaker 19: take a time. Everybody pan again.
• 37:59
  Speaker 20: Uh uh.
• 38:01
  Speaker 19: I kind of like the process we're doing now because
• 38:03
  Speaker 19: I think we're actually doing what you're supposed to do.
• 38:07
  Speaker 19: Take your time, pick the right guy. Uh Because at
• 38:11
  Speaker 19: the end of the day, that's all I want, because I,
• 38:13
  Speaker 19: like I told you I think a couple of weeks back,
• 38:16
  Speaker 19: I just want that to get a defense like these
• 38:18
  Speaker 19: other other guys got, because I mean, you see the
• 38:21
  Speaker 19: quarterbacks in the final Foe. I'm that's better than all them.
• 38:26
  Speaker 19: And we're sitting at home right now. So get me,
• 38:29
  Speaker 19: get my guy a defense. Let's go to work. I'm like,
• 38:33
  Speaker 19: that's that's where where I'm at. Let's find me, find
• 38:36
  Speaker 19: me some guys. Find me a guy that's gonna beata
• 38:39
  Speaker 19: to put where Dad can actually have turnover to not
• 38:44
  Speaker 19: mean to be just kill us. Don't happen. Turnover's happening,
• 38:48
  Speaker 19: but you just it's just it's crazy that I don't
• 38:52
  Speaker 19: know why a fan base is fanicing now that we're
• 38:54
  Speaker 19: taking our time and actually trying to go through the process.
• 38:57
  Speaker 19: Charny told us it was gonna be a wide ned
• 39:02
  Speaker 19: and they gonna take their time. So I don't know
• 39:03
  Speaker 19: why everybody's like what they do is he told you
• 39:09
  Speaker 19: what will go happen? Is it is oladist. I'm like,
• 39:11
  Speaker 19: I'm not sure to get the right guy they My
• 39:14
  Speaker 19: favorite is Jones, Barker or lind Hard. I don't really
• 39:20
  Speaker 19: want Ganning because I don't think Gannon. I think Gannon
• 39:22
  Speaker 19: is gonna be just more the same, probably a little
• 39:25
  Speaker 19: bit federvation, but I don't think he's gonna be what
• 39:27
  Speaker 19: we need to really get us where we need to go.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm with you. I'm with you on that.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: You know a lot of that comes from kind of
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: like eber Flus from last year. You know, you got
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: a guy who was fired from as a head coach,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: and then he brought in a lot of defensive guys
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: from a team that wasn't very good. Now the Bears
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: are good this year, but they weren't. They weren't good.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: So you know, it's the same type of thing gonna happen.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Are you bringing in Cardinals guys? You know what I mean?
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: So I wouldn't think that that would be the case.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: But you know, you look at the offense last year.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, the offense didn't have guys that had worked together.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: They had guys from all over the place. They kind
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: of meshed in here together.
• 40:17
  Speaker 19: And that and that worked and that. We're just so
• 40:21
  Speaker 19: when Shanny tell you these things, listen to your coach.
• 40:24
  Speaker 19: You say, I'm taking my time. I'm gonna find a guy. Yeah,
• 40:28
  Speaker 19: so I'm find a guy before I go. We got
• 40:31
  Speaker 19: a space tomorrow, you know we we we uh storyline
• 40:34
  Speaker 19: it at the dark but uh but yeah, man, let's
• 40:38
  Speaker 19: just take our time. Get the right guy. That's what
• 40:39
  Speaker 19: I'm all about. Man, final Let's get the right gass
• 40:41
  Speaker 19: and we can go make this running the same for
• 40:43
  Speaker 19: the next three years.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: All right, sounds good? Thanks dateon appreciate that. Sounds like,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: you know, getting the right guy is obviously going to
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: be the key, and now you want to know who
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: who it is. And I think I think there's a
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: fear that that if you wait too long, you're going
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: to end up with, you know, not the right guy
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: or somebody that's not not qualified. But I think with
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: all these names they're thrown out there, and you know,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: hopefully that they've liked a lot of them, that they're
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: not going to be left hold in the bag here.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Then there's gonna be an opportunity to get somebody good
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: in here, all right, Zach in Atlanta, Zach, what's up?
• 41:24
  Speaker 8: Hey? What's up?
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: Nick? And Frisco?
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: How are you doing?
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: I'm good man to give a layup to my brother
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: cousin Josh and Chicago. I believe he said, may it
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: please the courts before we start this argument. That's how
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: he's trying to start his call. So shout out Josh
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: man always when he calls in. First of all, keep Jeep.
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: That's that's everything, man. And what do I mean by that?
• 41:48
  Speaker 8: Keep Jeep?
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: Either find him before we end up in a fourth
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: straight year of a nasty contract negotiation, or tag him
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: and trade him for value. But I don't want to
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: live in the middle land of dragging this out all
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: the way into camp day before the season starts, like Dak,
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: like CD, like Micah, You know, if you're gonna sign him,
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: sign him early. If you're gonna trade him, trade him
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: in the draft process, figure it out. He makes our
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: team better objectively, but you know there's numbers and there's
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: other factors. So keep jeep and made the cards fall
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: where they lay second thing or half away.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Man hold one, Zach, let me ask you this, how
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: nasty were those? Were those contract negotiations? And Micah Michael?
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: I mean that was that was terrible and ended up
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: as a trade. That that's the epitome of that. Were
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: the other ones nasty? I mean was Zach Martin? And
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: and CD? And I mean Dak wasn't I mean, he
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: was here the whole time. I'm I'm not trying to
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: to argue. I'm just saying I think you're right. They
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: dragged on. But CD, Zach Martin, I mean, Zach, is
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: that kind a nice press conference here? Dak's made the
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, I think the last couple of years. CD,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, so the Mica I can't argue with you.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: There that was as nasty as it could get. He
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: got public, he got personal, and they got mad, and
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: now look what happened. You're absolutely right about that, But
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: do you would you say four straight years? I mean
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: of that.
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: It well, knowing Mula Getta, I think that's Pickens's entered
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: the same group at least.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you.
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: Know, I love Pickens on the field. You know, who
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: knows how it would go down in a contract negotiation holdout.
• 43:39
  Speaker 8: I wouldn't say DAK and.
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: CD was nasty, but to hold out the drama, it's
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: just like.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: It's a distraction. There's no bad about that. I mean
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: there's a.
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no no. And that's recentcy too. The micro stuff
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: of course, yeah, I mean not all of it's horrible
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: and nasty. Yeah, it's just unnecessary. It's like many like
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: if if this is your guy, sign up, don't drag
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: it out. You end up paying more than you want
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: to in the end. Nobody's gonna sniff sixty million for
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: a quarterback. Like nobody's doing that. All these new contracts
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: are fifty five or below. So and that's been great.
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: But anyways, yeah, so that's my thing, keypjep. But you
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: know there's some nuance there. Second thing, and I'll take
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: this off air. With the draft process for the twenty tens,
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: that seemed like all the Pro bowlers were coming in
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: and you know, we're drafted some Hall of famers and
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: all that. I wonder if this came up maybe on
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: a space or another podcast or even the show. But
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: Jason Garrett, his dad was a talent or an NFL scout.
• 44:40
  Speaker 12: I wonder if he had a lot.
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: Of sway and I mean all the field results in
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: playoff success is one thing, but he did. He was
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: part of a lot of drafts where we drafted some
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: phenomenal players. And so do you think that factored in
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: at all? And with that, I'll hang up, man, take.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Care, all right? It factored in some, you know, because
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: he was Jim Garrett was a you know, was on
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: the staff. But the reason why I'm kind of laughing
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: is is when I think of him evaluating players he
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: didn't have. He obviously didn't have the final say because
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: it's Jim Garrett that said this isn't the boy scouts.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: You know, in nineteen ninety eight, when the Cowboys were
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: deciding not to draft Randy Moss, it was Jim Garrett
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: that stood up there and said, guys, this is the
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: best football player in the draft. This is the best
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: guy on our board. Yes there's issues here, but this
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: is not the boy Scouts. You know, let's get him here,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: and he absolutely wanted him. And obviously the Cowboys at
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: the time, you know, based off of the end of
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: the nineties and with Michael Irvin here and all the
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: things that happened, and maybe it wouldn't have worked out,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: but man, I would have loved to see it. So
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: but I think more than anything, I think think, you know,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: having that background helped Jason Garrett as well. Now, Jason,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: you know from the talks, from what I had always
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: heard about Jason is that he didn't make up his
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: mind a whole lot. He kind of went back and
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: forth a lot. And it wasn't a lot of times
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: where he was like that's it, that's the guy. But
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: you know, he kind of had a vision of what
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: he wanted. The one thing about Jason Garrett when he
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: got here, what he helped, what he helped do was say,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: I don't care about the history that we haven't drafted
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: all these offensive linemen. That's what we need to turn
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: this thing around. So in his very first draft, he
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: got Jerry to do something he had never done, and
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: that's taken offensive lineman in the first round. And guess
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: what two years later he did it again, and the
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: next year he did it again. So they've drafted three
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: offensive linemen in the first round in a four year pattern.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Well guess what Cowboys have also done that right now?
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Tyler Smith, Tyler Guiton, Tyler Booker, last four drafts three
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: offensive line and has it worked out the same though
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: it hasn't, but it could. It could get there. I mean,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: because to these guards, are you know, really really good?
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: All right, let's go Robin Vegas, Hey, Nick, Rob, what's up?
• 47:17
  Speaker 8: No?
• 47:18
  Speaker 12: How's everything great?
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Great? Doing great? Here? Sonny Dallas.
• 47:26
  Speaker 12: I'm not going to talk about it. Everybody's talking about
• 47:30
  Speaker 12: this coaching search, and I'm like, I hope people don't
• 47:36
  Speaker 12: think a coach could come in here and turn this
• 47:39
  Speaker 12: defensive roster around, because they can't. There's not much talent
• 47:44
  Speaker 12: on defense and the best guys just got here. So
• 47:50
  Speaker 12: the thing that bothers me about this coaching search is
• 47:54
  Speaker 12: Cowboys don't bring in the best coaches anymore. They just
• 47:58
  Speaker 12: bring in guys. I mean, you got Laura is out there.
• 48:01
  Speaker 12: Washington brought Flores in for an interview, and we haven't.
• 48:06
  Speaker 12: Schwartz is out there. He hasn't come in and it
• 48:09
  Speaker 12: just goes to show. Even you look at the playoffs
• 48:12
  Speaker 12: and you got the Sean Payton could have had him Rabel,
• 48:16
  Speaker 12: and I mean, we just we don't. We don't get
• 48:19
  Speaker 12: those guys anymore. It's either because they realize I don't
• 48:24
  Speaker 12: need to go there to be on the big stage.
• 48:26
  Speaker 12: I definitely don't want to work so Jerry or Jerry
• 48:29
  Speaker 12: just doesn't want to pay. I mean, we talked about it.
• 48:32
  Speaker 12: He doesn't want to pay coaches, and so we're going
• 48:37
  Speaker 12: to get some guy, young guy, maybe this guy Leonard,
• 48:40
  Speaker 12: who knows I think the carrot is. Jerry could say, well,
• 48:44
  Speaker 12: you know, you could be the head coach of the
• 48:47
  Speaker 12: Cowboys next year or so if things don't go good,
• 48:51
  Speaker 12: I'm sure he'll dangle that to some young coach. But
• 48:54
  Speaker 12: unfortunately we just don't get the best and brightest anymore,
• 48:59
  Speaker 12: coach wise and player wise. I don't I don't need
• 49:03
  Speaker 12: a role model. I don't need a good guy. I
• 49:06
  Speaker 12: need a a player. I need somebody that could kick ass.
• 49:11
  Speaker 12: And that's what we did in the nineties. Uh we
• 49:15
  Speaker 12: we we didn't take in role models. Then then we
• 49:18
  Speaker 12: went the safe route and we wanted nice guys. And
• 49:21
  Speaker 12: that's why we we we missed out on Randy Moss.
• 49:25
  Speaker 12: I mean, just go get some real good players, some
• 49:29
  Speaker 12: guys that have a nasty streak about them. I really
• 49:34
  Speaker 12: don't care. So obvious they're not getting arrested or hurting
• 49:37
  Speaker 12: somebody off the field. Go get me a player. And
• 49:42
  Speaker 12: the one guy that I did see, I don't follow
• 49:45
  Speaker 12: follow college football that much, but obviously I watched a
• 49:48
  Speaker 12: national championship that passed Russia from Miami Bain.
• 49:53
  Speaker 19: He looked.
• 49:53
  Speaker 12: He looks like a grown ass man. I mean, that
• 49:56
  Speaker 12: guy looks like he can roll in. I think they
• 49:59
  Speaker 12: said he was a two seventy.
• 50:00
  Speaker 10: He's built.
• 50:01
  Speaker 12: Go get that guy. If you're not gonna make free agent,
• 50:04
  Speaker 12: you know trades that we've talked about in the past,
• 50:07
  Speaker 12: they go get that guy. That guy looks like he
• 50:09
  Speaker 12: could come right in. Yeah, and play against the run,
• 50:13
  Speaker 12: play against the pass. Uh, and then you know, do what.
• 50:16
  Speaker 12: But free agency is the key. You gotta do something.
• 50:19
  Speaker 12: You gotta, like you were talking, if you want to
• 50:21
  Speaker 12: get two pass rushers, I'm okay with it, as long
• 50:23
  Speaker 12: as you go get me some linebackers and the defensive
• 50:25
  Speaker 12: back and free agency.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Free agency, Yeah, now I'm with you. But you know,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: I feel like they will. I really do. I know.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: I I don't know if I've said that before. Maybe
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: I have.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: Well that's because we'll being hopeful.
• 50:37
  Speaker 13: Let's face it.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: I just feel like they will. I do. I feel
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: like they're going to to kind of build around what
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: they've done, and you know, with the momentum for the offense,
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: I think that that they're going to do that this
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: year and maybe get a little bit more talent on
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: free agency.
• 50:55
  Speaker 12: Sooner or later you're gonna hit you know. You know
• 50:57
  Speaker 12: what I mean, Sooner or later you would think, you know,
• 51:00
  Speaker 12: And the call that I was talking about sign George Pickens,
• 51:05
  Speaker 12: I'm also for signing him. It just depends on how
• 51:08
  Speaker 12: much everybody's talking about how this defense needs to be improved. Well,
• 51:13
  Speaker 12: I don't want Jerry to sign Pickens or franchise Pickens,
• 51:17
  Speaker 12: and then you know you're going to hear well, you know,
• 51:19
  Speaker 12: I had to franchise him, so I couldn't go No,
• 51:23
  Speaker 12: if I have to lose Pickens to get a much
• 51:25
  Speaker 12: better defense, I like my chances going forward. I've seen
• 51:30
  Speaker 12: this team with top offenses for the last twenty years,
• 51:34
  Speaker 12: robo to deck, We've had some really, really good offenses
• 51:38
  Speaker 12: and we didn't win nothing because our defense was it equivalent?
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: So does that change your mind? Let's say they do that.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Let's say that they trade them, get another pick or whatever,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: and save that money and get some free agent help
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: on defense. Would that change your mind? On number twenty
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: in the draft? Is it now a receiver or even twelve?
• 52:02
  Speaker 8: No?
• 52:02
  Speaker 12: I don't. I don't know. I think a receiver you
• 52:05
  Speaker 12: could get. Most receivers that come out of college don't
• 52:10
  Speaker 12: jump right in.
• 52:11
  Speaker 8: Ye.
• 52:11
  Speaker 12: Look at a guy that was that we wanted a
• 52:14
  Speaker 12: last year. Yeah, I mean he, I mean it just
• 52:17
  Speaker 12: doesn't work. There's just certain positions.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: That receiver is one of them.
• 52:20
  Speaker 12: So no, don't get me a got you got CD not.
• 52:25
  Speaker 12: I don't know any other quarterback that needs two number
• 52:28
  Speaker 12: ones to be successful. We got CD. We've seen this
• 52:32
  Speaker 12: offense and we seen Dak be really good with CD,
• 52:36
  Speaker 12: A good you know, flown. NOI would think it's going
• 52:38
  Speaker 12: to be. Could he be a number two? I don't know,
• 52:42
  Speaker 12: but he looks better than the others we've had, you know,
• 52:46
  Speaker 12: so just you could get a wide receiver. Is somebody
• 52:49
  Speaker 12: reliable you'll technically need Pickens and CD. What I like
• 52:55
  Speaker 12: to have them. Of course, could we do it all? Yes,
• 52:57
  Speaker 12: of course we could do it all. We've seen teams
• 52:59
  Speaker 12: do it. But unfortunately, knowing how Jerry operates, I just
• 53:03
  Speaker 12: don't want to. I could just see him say, well,
• 53:06
  Speaker 12: you know, I had a franchise and that's twenty eight
• 53:09
  Speaker 12: million whatever it is. So now I don't have money
• 53:12
  Speaker 12: to fix the defense or I can't really play in
• 53:14
  Speaker 12: free agency. So I'll go get the couch potatoes Rob
• 53:17
  Speaker 12: and we'll yes.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Are you going to training camp this year? Are you
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: going to are y'all doing that again? Are you a
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: part of this?
• 53:24
  Speaker 12: I may? You know what, I'm actually trying to talk
• 53:26
  Speaker 12: my wife into going.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm just curious. Say you're there and then
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: you're in the VIP and Jerry walks by. Do you
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: shake his hand? Are you yelling at him? Are you like?
• 53:40
  Speaker 8: Why?
• 53:41
  Speaker 15: Like?
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Are you's?
• 53:42
  Speaker 8: Like?
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: I'm just curious.
• 53:44
  Speaker 12: I respect I respect Jerry. First of all, he's old
• 53:49
  Speaker 12: enough to be my father. But I respect Jerry. I
• 53:53
  Speaker 12: respect him as a owner. He's just a terrible GM.
• 53:58
  Speaker 12: And the one question I would ask him is why
• 54:03
  Speaker 12: why do you feel being a GM is more important
• 54:06
  Speaker 12: than winning? Because that's the bottom line in any of
• 54:11
  Speaker 12: his businesses, he would have fired the GM a long
• 54:14
  Speaker 12: time ago. The supervisor whoever, he will not he would
• 54:20
  Speaker 12: I always say he would rather be GM and lose
• 54:23
  Speaker 12: than just be a regular owner and win. And he's
• 54:26
  Speaker 12: kind of said it. And as a fan, that sucks
• 54:31
  Speaker 12: because you look at Robert Kraft, who's the best owner
• 54:35
  Speaker 12: in the NFL. He hires the best people and he
• 54:40
  Speaker 12: gets out of the way, and that's what every owner
• 54:44
  Speaker 12: should do. But this is this is his fantasy football.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: And don't get me wrong, Jerry's got the right to
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: do this.
• 54:51
  Speaker 12: You know, he hired his kids. His kids are probably
• 54:54
  Speaker 12: not most qualified. I'm sure there's others obviously that much,
• 54:59
  Speaker 12: but I get it.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: No, you're you're right, all right. Thanks for the call,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: Rob always always great, great stuff. Appreciate that. Now we'll
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: say this bin out of Miami the right now as
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: it stands, and it's early in the pole process and
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: all that. There's there's not a lot of there's probably
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: not a lot of mock drafts that have him falling
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: to the Cowboys. What could happen, though, is is I
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: don't think he you know, I don't. This is one
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: of these draft words but twitchy. I don't I don't
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: know if you would call him that. He's very strong
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: and powerful and he can't he can get off the
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: edge and all that, but he kind of dominates the
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: the his opponent, bendy and all those kind of things
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: that might hurt him. You know, when you really really
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: evaluate this, is he a guy that that's going to
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: be you know next? Can he just dominate some of
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: these big offensive tackles that are that have been in
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: the league five, six, seven years? And you know, is
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: he's going to be that guy?
• 56:08
  Speaker 15: Uh?
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: And maybe not? You know, maybe maybe that will will
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: drop him some. But I can't imagine him dropping too far.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: But now the guy from tech Bailey, you know that
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: that he might be right there for you. I don't know.
• 56:22
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  Speaker 18: Hey, what's happening?
• 57:58
  Speaker 14: How you doing I'm doing good, doing good, hanging in there.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: But Rob, and right after Rob, you, Rob kind of kept.
• 58:06
  Speaker 18: Going yeah yeah, he got me going dude as always, dude.
• 58:10
  Speaker 18: He said, all right, first of okay, first of all,
• 58:16
  Speaker 18: we have some decent players on defense. Okay, I think,
• 58:21
  Speaker 18: and I've said this on the space, is like you
• 58:23
  Speaker 18: kind of got to throw last year out. Now everybody says, well,
• 58:25
  Speaker 18: it's not all he were Fus's fault, but I think
• 58:30
  Speaker 18: I'm gonna go on record saying, yeah, it's pretty much
• 58:34
  Speaker 18: all these players didn't just get awful all of a sudden, right, So,
• 58:38
  Speaker 18: and then did the Bears like trade out their whole
• 58:41
  Speaker 18: roster this year?
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Who did the Bears?
• 58:44
  Speaker 18: Did the Bears?
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think so, no.
• 58:48
  Speaker 18: No, no, no, they just got a different coach, right.
• 58:52
  Speaker 18: It looked like what yeah, right, and Rob's like, oh,
• 58:54
  Speaker 18: one guy's not gonna make a difference with this team. Well,
• 58:58
  Speaker 18: obviously we got to make some rock moves like every
• 59:01
  Speaker 18: every team in the NFL. But yeah, one guy can
• 59:03
  Speaker 18: make a big difference. Ben Johnson came in and made
• 59:06
  Speaker 18: a big difference.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: Remember, the Bears did not have a good defense. I mean,
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: they want some games but the Bears did not have
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: a good defense, and Bears defense was was kind of
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: a problem for them too. So I'm just saying, yeah, yeah,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: but you're right, You're right about the offenses.
• 59:21
  Speaker 18: But we saw Nashon Wright go over there and have
• 59:23
  Speaker 18: a great year, right.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: Right, No, so I'm saying no, I said, right, no, no,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Naysan Wright got turnovers, he got some turnover he did
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: have a great.
• 59:31
  Speaker 18: Okay, Okay, maybe not a great year, but better than
• 59:34
  Speaker 18: he ever performed here? Right? Is that fair to say?
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: Very fair to say?
• 59:39
  Speaker 18: Okay, That's my point is like, yeah, I think the
• 59:41
  Speaker 18: right coach can make a big difference. And all these
• 59:44
  Speaker 18: people wanting everything done. Sorry, I'm trying not to swear
• 59:51
  Speaker 18: everybody that wants everything done, you know, right now, that's
• 59:57
  Speaker 18: just stupid. You'd be all it's like Davion said, you
• 59:59
  Speaker 18: can't win either way. You know what I mean this,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 18: Some people in this fan base can't understand that. You know,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 18: you're gonna wait for the right guy, dude, and you've
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 18: you've said it. A lot of the people on the
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 18: spaces said it, we have to get the right guy. Whatever.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 18: That looks like, I'm fine with that, and I'm sick
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 18: of everybody just arguing about the process so many times
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 18: because none of us are in it, you know. Yeah,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 18: so it's frustrating to me. But yeah, I think one
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 18: guy can can come over it and maybe not make
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 18: him you know, the number one defense, but can he
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 18: get you? Can he get you top ten or close
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 18: to top ten? Absolutely? Absolutely that can happen. And that's
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 18: all you need with this offense. Now you go trading pickings,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 18: then you don't have the same offense, right, right, So
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 18: then everything else is up in question. So obviously they've
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 18: got some work to do. But I definitely think the
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 18: right guy, the right coaching hire here can definitely make
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 18: it make a difference. And you don't have to go
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 18: trade everything away to go get you know, Max Crosby, Right,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 18: So I just yeah, all right, Rob got me going
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 18: to it. But yeah, it's all good, dude. I'm excited
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 18: to see what happens, and I'm confident that shot he'll
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 18: make the right decision for what he needs to do
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 18: because at the end of the day, it's his we're
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 18: end that's on the line, right.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thanks, all right, bro, good stuff. You
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: know the argument that that you make, like like when
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: you're talking about re signing these these offensive players like
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Davonte Williams and and uh, George Pickens. You know, you
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: could sit there and like I could argue either side
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: to it because and then that's what makes this thing
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: kind of tricky, because you can say, look at the
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: offense and what you had once Pickens was here, once
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Davonte was here, it's a great offense. Got to keep it.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: And and there's a lot of people that think that way,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: and and and I'm not saying that that's wrong. You
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: can also on the flip side, you could say, well,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Javonte's never on that before, Pickens has never had a
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: season like that before. Look at Javonte, Rico Daddle, he
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: had a great season two years ago. Here, Pollard had
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: some really good seasons here. So maybe we don't need
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: to sign Javonte to this and get another back in here.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: Maybe you don't need to sign Pickings to this, get
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: get another quality veteran receiver who maybe just needs a
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: fresh start, same type of situation finally a year of
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: his deal, or make a trade at a guy in
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: here that can compliment CD and maybe have his best season.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: So you could you could argue both ways. I mean, selfishly,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: I think I just like watching George Pickens play that
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: I kind of want to see it happen here. He's
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: fun to watch, he's you know, he's a great player.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: And it's hard for fans and even media to have
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: an opinion because he's not late for my meeting, like
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: I you know what I mean, Like he didn't show
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: up late there. He didn't miss a team bus for me,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: and I get it. It's hard for the coaches and
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: things like that, but those aren't things that we see,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: so we like, not a big deal, you know, and
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: maybe it's not. He goes out there, you know, Okay,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: he missed, he missed the bus and in uh Vegas
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: and miss is the first series or or whatever. Okay,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: all right, well comes back and next thing I know,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: he's jumping into the goalpost after a touchdown. So shot,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: he's hugging him, you know. All good, and so all right,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: let's go with Arthur in Spring Texas.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 8: Arthur, good morning, Nick, how are you saying?
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: How are you doing?
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 8: I'm doing pretty good. I'm going to touch on just
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 8: the complete okay one number one. The Cowboys have and
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 8: always will will do what they want to do, and
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 8: that starts at the time. You can't erase that about Jerry.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 8: So that being said, there are some core fundamental pieces
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 8: that we have on the defense that can be built
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 8: on the lineback and gore and the secondary. Okay, and
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 8: maybe they need a complete Rehoulbern. I don't know. But
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 8: there's one thing and I'm sure somebody else has seen it,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 8: and you know we left we left some touchdowns on
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 8: the board when Dack would throw deep and I don't
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 8: know if anybody else has been paying attention to it,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 8: but I know in that Giants game there was a
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 8: couple of balls that the receivers literally slowed down to try,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 8: try and kitchen. So I'm not saying that that's is
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 8: over the here and ready to go to retire with ten.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 8: But I am saying is that making sure they ought
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 8: to consider those routes getting sharpened up. I mean, do
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 8: you always need something over the top? Do you need
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 8: a big play? You know, Brady made made a living
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 8: throwing the ball ten fifteen yards. He would take whatever
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 8: the car seven to ten yards, He'd take whatever the
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 8: defense gave it. And I'm not saying that he needs
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 8: to be like Brady. But I'm saying that his mindset
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 8: as wherever shots needs to change about those deep threats.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 8: You throw a deep threat when you know for sure
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 8: that you got a guy that's going to break into
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 8: the opening, you can put that ball out there deep
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 8: enough that they can run out of it and get
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 8: to But that being said, thank you for letting me
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 8: for my opinion.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: Sure, all right, Arthur, that's good stuff, you know, the
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: deep ball. I think I probably disagree with you because
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: I was just saying this yesterday about how I feel
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: like deep ball wasn't thrown enough, especially to Pickens. I
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: just I think no longer is that. Would you call
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: that a fifty to fifty ball. I don't think it's
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: fifty to fifty. I really don't. I think that the
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: percentage that you're going to get the football down where
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: you threw it is greater than fifty percent, Especially with Pickens.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: He can out jump these corners. He's a better he's
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: got better hands, he's a better playmaker to go and
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: make the catch. I think there's a fifty percent chance
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: he's gonna catch it. I think there's a twenty five
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: percent chance they're gonna have a PI call. On him,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: So that's not fifty to fifty either way. You get
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: the ball down there, maybe even further if he catches
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: it and scores. I think there's a chance that goes
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: incomplete and maybe the guy picks it off, which if
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: you throw it deep enough, that's almost a punt, you know,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: depending on where you are if it was third down
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: or whatever. So my point is with a player like him,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: I think I would throw it even deeper. Now, you know,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: it's all about timing and things like that. As far
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: as Dak and him on the same pit, when does
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: he throw it and you know, do they have to
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: come back to the ball sometimes coming Sometimes that is
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: the play coming back for the football is you know
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: what will get the ball in your hands and the
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: corners don't know where the ball is, so you can
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: come back to the football and make the play. It
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: happens a lot, So it's not just about this end stride,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: perfect throw and all that. I kind of think with
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: what they have, I like them stretching the field that
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: that way. I know that you know, we saw the
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: turpin touchdown, same type of thing, but I think they
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: need to do that a little bit more. I think
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: that opens up things more for Ferguson. You know, Ferguson
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: had eighty two catches this year, but six hundred yards.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was his career low for average per catch.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: And just in case you just drawing yours, Ferguson was
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: named to the Pro Bowl for the second time in
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: his career. He was added for George I'm sorry for yeah,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: George Kittle. So just thinking of George Pickts is like
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: that didn't sound right. Yeah, George Kittle for the forty
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: nine ers, was injured and so Ferguson replaces him. The
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: Cowboys don't have six Pro Bowlers this year. All right, Tony,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: Long Beach, California, Tony, what's up?
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 14: Hey?
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 12: What's up?
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 8: How you doing? Man?
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  Speaker 1: Good? How are you doing?
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  Speaker 3: We're doing well, bro Man A long time listener. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: first time calling the storyline.
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  Speaker 13: I remember Daddy here.
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  Speaker 3: We go, uh doing another with fucking Cowboys, And I
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  Speaker 3: remember Dian Walf. I'm gonna have a crush on her. Uh.
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  Speaker 8: It's just different things.
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  Speaker 9: But I have a quick question.
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  Speaker 3: I'm at work right now. I'm sorry about thennoise.
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  Speaker 11: It's been worse, okay, Huh.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard worse with other callers. You're you're good. You're good.
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  Speaker 1: Long beat in the house.
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  Speaker 3: All right, all right, hey, quick question, is it possible
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  Speaker 3: maybe to like a trade uh ki do uh oh
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  Speaker 3: diggi zua I know recite them last uh this this
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  Speaker 3: last off season? Is that a possibility to probably like
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  Speaker 3: try to maybe move up in the draft or maybe
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  Speaker 3: to try to get that guy from from Oakland? You
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  Speaker 3: know you use that as a as a chip, you
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  Speaker 3: know that maybe.
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  Speaker 1: All right, that that kind of was a topic that
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  Speaker 1: we talked about a lot last in last week's show,
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  Speaker 1: hasn't come up as so much this time. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: they just signed him to a big deal, and so
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  Speaker 1: you know that when when that happens, I mean, especially
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  Speaker 1: after his first year that he probably didn't count a
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  Speaker 1: lot towards the cap. So you're gonna you're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: a pretty pretty nice chunk of chance that's gonna hit
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  Speaker 1: your cap immediately when you do that. Me personally, if
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  Speaker 1: if you're gonna have him counting a lot to the cap,
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  Speaker 1: I'd rather him just go out there and play. And
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  Speaker 1: I think the rotation of those guys helps you. Now
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  Speaker 1: this was towards the end of his contract, maybe as
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  Speaker 1: last year or two. You can you can consider that
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  Speaker 1: with any player, but I think with Osa, and you
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  Speaker 1: think about the boxes that get checked here. As far
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  Speaker 1: as you know, I just got didn't making that rant
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  Speaker 1: about guys that love football they're gonna come in and
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  Speaker 1: do everything right. That that's what this guy did. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he signed his contract the very next day, was in
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  Speaker 1: the rate room at eight a m. You know, and
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  Speaker 1: and and that's you know, I think he's he's dedicated,
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  Speaker 1: he is a leader. He's a good football player, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think he's still developing and getting better.
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  Speaker 1: Now now you're gonna pair him with Quentin Williams Kenny Clark,
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  Speaker 1: I think, I think the guys have a chance to
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  Speaker 1: be even better there. And so I don't know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna count too much, I think to to get
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  Speaker 1: him off the roster, I'd rather him just be on
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  Speaker 1: the roster help contributing. Like I said, he checks a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the boxes that you want. And he's a
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  Speaker 1: good football player. I mean, there's there's no doubt about him.
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  Speaker 1: He made a game winning play in that Philadelphia game
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  Speaker 1: when it was third and three, third and four. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: to get back there and to get Hurts to the
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  Speaker 1: ground and sack it for the first time in the game.
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  Speaker 1: And guys got the ball, went and won the game.
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  Speaker 1: And and you know, he didn't make a lot of them.
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  Speaker 1: I understand that. And you know he got better when
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  Speaker 1: quin when Quinn Williams was here. So let's play into
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  Speaker 1: that a little bit. You know, Pickens got better when
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  Speaker 1: he when he was with Dak and and and CD.
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  Speaker 1: So it happens. Iron sharpens iron and then make these
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  Speaker 1: guys better. Chris in Modesto, California, Chris, what's up?
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  Speaker 20: Hey, what's up? That's how you going?
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  Speaker 8: Good? You good? Good?
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  Speaker 20: That was good. I'm doing real good. I really wanted
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  Speaker 20: to talk about like Dallas and just how I was
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  Speaker 20: excited a lot of what moves they were making over
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  Speaker 20: the years and kind of bringing up the issues that
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  Speaker 20: people like ha with you know, Garrett, and during that time,
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  Speaker 20: our defense, I believe that we got rid of the
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  Speaker 20: main issue with our defense was was Matt Ebra blush.
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  Speaker 20: A lot of our problems was up the middle, is
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  Speaker 20: either on the defensive line, linebacker or safety. During the
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  Speaker 20: time we had WAYE. Phillips where Kitchens in Wilson and
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  Speaker 20: they all left and won a Super Bowl, under Way,
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  Speaker 20: Phillips or Stagnola, you know those defensive coaches, and they
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  Speaker 20: also what they did where did mention that the coach
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  Speaker 20: the reason why he wanted to leave as a coach
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  Speaker 20: didn't want to change. So prior to that, our offense
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  Speaker 20: and defense was terrible. To be honest, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 20: we were struggling a lot. On the offensive side. We've
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  Speaker 20: been honestly pretty good, but lately I think we're struggling
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  Speaker 20: on tight ends. We need another tight end to really
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  Speaker 20: open up our offense. They will bring down the safety
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  Speaker 20: to open up the outside for Pickens or Lamb in
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  Speaker 20: my opinion, in that area. As far as the defense,
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  Speaker 20: I think we do need to make, you know, some trades,
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  Speaker 20: you know, maybe trade Turpin Steal to move up possibly
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  Speaker 20: in the draft and get back into the third And
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  Speaker 20: it would be my hope, but you would, yeah, because
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  Speaker 20: during the off season, when during the draft, I honestly
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  Speaker 20: I send a message to mail Bag about trading Micah
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  Speaker 20: Parsons and uh terping, you know, to to possibly get
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  Speaker 20: some you know, capital or someone in free agency, mainly
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  Speaker 20: because I did not see Micah matching up with the
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  Speaker 20: the personnel and the defense the way we were going,
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  Speaker 20: we want to stop the run, and he wasn't a
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  Speaker 20: good run stopping and he tost too much money to
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  Speaker 20: keep everybody on the team. So my my option was
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  Speaker 20: is he doesn't want to be in the film room
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  Speaker 20: and that's a big issue. Then yeah, I let him know.
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  Speaker 20: Trade him, all right, they did.
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  Speaker 1: And they missed him, but but the trade hasn't been
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  Speaker 1: The trade's not complete, you know what I mean, Like
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  Speaker 1: we we can't even close to evaluate the trade. And
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  Speaker 1: Micah went and made the Pro Bowl. Good for him.
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys had the worst defense in the league. Bad for them.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, Quentin Williams was also here because of that.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see what the other first round picks looks like.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see, yeah, Gardens.
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  Speaker 20: And Williams in the next two first we got two
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  Speaker 20: first rounds out of it. It's similar to the Herschel
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  Speaker 20: Walker trade. We'll see similar.
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  Speaker 1: And and we'll see, you know what I mean, we'll
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  Speaker 1: how it goes. I mean, there was a lot more
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  Speaker 1: picks involved there, but in this day and age, is
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  Speaker 1: probably the closest thing you're going to see to it,
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  Speaker 1: all right, Chris, Yeah, thanks for the call. Good stuff,
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  Speaker 1: And this thing just comes down to. You know, when
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  Speaker 1: you're looking at coordinators and and all that stuff, they
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  Speaker 1: I think about dan Quinn. You know, dan Quinn was
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  Speaker 1: here and great coordinator and all that stuff he had Micah,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not saying he's not good, but that's what
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  Speaker 1: this team needs. That's that they needed. It doesn't matter
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  Speaker 1: who it is. Get a guy that can get off
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  Speaker 1: the edge, that that the quarterback gets to the line
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  Speaker 1: of scrimmage and points to. And then the running back
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  Speaker 1: that's all over here on your right, all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden now comes over to your left. So he's obviously
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  Speaker 1: gonna chip the guy. Give me that guy, Give me,
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  Speaker 1: give me that guy that that's what you needed. Can
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  Speaker 1: Azeraku develop into that, we'll see big big year needed
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  Speaker 1: in the weight room for him. But you know we
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  Speaker 1: need to see some of that. But that's that's what
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  Speaker 1: this team needs, because I promise you you could get
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  Speaker 1: a pass rusher or two in here. The coordinators all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden gonna look better. Linebackers look better overshow
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  Speaker 1: and looks a lot better. Bland is covering better, John
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  Speaker 1: Navan Wilson and Lee Cooker. They're making a lot more
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  Speaker 1: plays that that kind of happens that's where it starts
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  Speaker 1: to me, and and that's that's what's got to happen.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, I coordinator, these decisions have to be
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  Speaker 1: made first, but they better have a vision on how
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  Speaker 1: to get a pass rusher in here and how to
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  Speaker 1: get a pass rush more than anything. All Right, good show, guys.
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  Speaker 1: We'll do it again next Wednesday. Fifteen callers is pretty
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  Speaker 1: much what we h That's like the standard. That's what
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  Speaker 1: I love to get here, especially when we have a
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  Speaker 1: little extra time. So you guys did great. Good to
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  Speaker 1: hear from you this week, and we'll do it again
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  Speaker 1: next week. Stay safe if there's any weather issues out
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  Speaker 1: there in your area. For Chrispy, I'm Nick Eatman. We
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