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‘How to Money’ with Joel Larsgaard | Namesake · The Bill Handel Show

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Speaker 1: lars Guard, a host of How to Money. He's heard
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Speaker 1: and he is at how to Money Joel. That's a
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Speaker 1: social address in his website is Howtomoney dot com. Good morning, Joel,
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Speaker 1: Morning Bill. Okay, we get right to it. Tax refunds
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Speaker 1: are going to be bigger and better for many Americans
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Speaker 1: this year. And I've always thought that big tax refunds
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Speaker 1: make zero sense. But at the same time, at the
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Speaker 1: same time, they make a lot of sense. And I
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Speaker 1: know that's kind of contradict no, and I think you'll agree, right,
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Speaker 1: but yeah, let's start with that they're going to be bigger.
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Speaker 1: Why is that?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're you're right on both ends that
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Speaker 2: I think it makes sense in some ways because it's
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Speaker 2: a forced method of savings for people, and it makes
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Speaker 2: them feel good.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 2: It feels nice to get like three thousand, four thousand
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Speaker 2: dollars back in April, and you're just like, all right,
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Speaker 2: I can do something big now with a giant sum
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Speaker 2: of money. But really that's just money that you overpaid
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Speaker 2: to the government. You're getting refunded to you, and you
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Speaker 2: could have done other things with that money throughout the year, right,
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Speaker 2: An extra couple hundred bucks in your paychecks, nothing to
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Speaker 2: sneeze at. But people have gotten used to these giant
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Speaker 2: tax refunds. And this is even if they realize it's
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Speaker 2: an interest free loan to the government. Most people don't
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Speaker 2: seem to mind.
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Speaker 1: No A. And here's why, because when I used to
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Speaker 1: file taxes this way, you know, the way that didn't
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Speaker 1: make much sense is that you don't put away two
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Speaker 1: hundred dollars a month to pay your taxes. Nobody does.
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Speaker 1: So when you get the big tax refund, it is
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Speaker 1: for savings, and you ignore the fact that it's a tax,
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Speaker 1: that it's an interest free loan to the government, because
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Speaker 1: that overrides oh boy, now I have money for sex,
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Speaker 1: drugs and rock and roll, which you didn't think you had.
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Speaker 2: Right well, and in some ways, like for a lot
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Speaker 2: of the way Americans handle money, having some sort of
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Speaker 2: force method of savings, it's almost like sitting on your hands,
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Speaker 2: so you can't do the dumb thing and spend it
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Speaker 2: in the month that you get it. And so from
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Speaker 2: that standpoint, like, I'm not one hundred percent against a
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Speaker 2: big tax refund, even though, oh yes, are you missing
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Speaker 2: out on doing smart things with it?
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Speaker 1: For sure?
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Speaker 2: But if you, if you treat money like the average
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Speaker 2: American does, like actually, it might be in your own
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Speaker 2: most interest to have a big tax refund and then
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Speaker 2: do something hopefully smart with what's coming down the pike.
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Speaker 2: And this year we're going to see people getting bigger
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Speaker 2: tax refunds on average than last year, and that's because
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Speaker 2: of the so called big beautiful bill. Right, So it's
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Speaker 2: we're talking about no tax on tips like better overtime
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Speaker 2: tax tax realities.
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Speaker 1: We're talking about.
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Speaker 2: If you bought a new card this year, you're getting
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Speaker 2: a tax break for the interest you paid on on
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Speaker 2: that car loan, the larger standard deduction. There are all these,
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Speaker 2: all these ways, all these like little tax perks that
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Speaker 2: are going to add up in the average person. Instead
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Speaker 2: of seeing a tax refund of like three grand, it
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Speaker 2: might it might be closer closer to four thousand dollars.
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Speaker 2: And that's just a lot of chunk of change that
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Speaker 2: people need to know what to do with and be
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Speaker 2: smart with.
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Speaker 1: I have a question, and this is a big picture question,
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Speaker 1: and that is obviously the bigger the tax break, the refund,
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Speaker 1: the less money comes into the government, and it is well, frankly,
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Speaker 1: you know, we're running more of a deficit. But at
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Speaker 1: the same time you've got these tariffs where money is
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Speaker 1: coming in. Does it even out or are we getting
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Speaker 1: more money from tariffs than what the tax breaks are
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Speaker 1: or the other way? I mean, do you know, I
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Speaker 1: know that unless you keep up with this and looked
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Speaker 1: at the stats, you wouldn't know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd have to look at the statistics. But my
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Speaker 2: assumption is that, well, I think the tariffs are bad
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Speaker 2: on multiple fronts, right, And I think ultimately, like the
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Speaker 2: latest statistics showed that American consumers end up paying essentially
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Speaker 2: ninety six percent of the cost of those tariffs. Maybe
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Speaker 2: some folks in foreign lands who ship their goods here,
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Speaker 2: they eat a small amount of that tariff, but it
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Speaker 2: really gets passed on as a tax to American consumers. So, yeah,
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Speaker 2: are the tariffs generating income for the federal government, Yes,
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Speaker 2: but typically it's on the backs of American consumers anyway,
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Speaker 2: in the form of fire prices.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. And people don't realize that because what's happening is
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Speaker 1: the President says, you're not paying the tariffs, and it's true.
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Speaker 1: You're not writing the check for the tariffs. It's the importer,
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Speaker 1: it's the manufacturer overseas. And as I've mentioned many times,
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Speaker 1: I have a import business with my friend Savil. We've
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Speaker 1: been partners for twenty years, and we import cookwar from
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Speaker 1: China and it's made out of stainless steel and we
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Speaker 1: are paying about one hundred and one hundred and forty
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Speaker 1: percent in duties. So the last container we brought in,
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Speaker 1: I think it was a small, small container and it
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Speaker 1: was I think seventy five thousand dollars worth of goods,
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Speaker 1: and we wrote a check to the government for eighty
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Speaker 1: two thousand dollars on top of paying for the goods.
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Speaker 1: Oh no, it's crazy. And the point I'm making it's
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Speaker 1: the manufacturer that's paying it and believing the government. They
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Speaker 1: say you're not paying for it. Believe me, we're all
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Speaker 1: paying for it, although the manufacturers importers suck up a
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Speaker 1: lot of that and profits are way way down. Okay,
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Speaker 1: just that was off topic a little bit. Here's the question,
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Speaker 1: and Joel came up with it. Is it possible to
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Speaker 1: have a healthy three dollars dinner without either dumper dice,
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Speaker 1: dumper dumper dusting, diving, or standing on the off ramp
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Speaker 1: of a freeway with a sign will work for food
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Speaker 1: with no intention of actually working. How do you do
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Speaker 1: this for three bucks?
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Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm I want to throw the question back
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Speaker 2: to you. Do you think it's possible?
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Speaker 3: No?
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Speaker 1: Okay, no, I don't unless you unless you get used food.
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Speaker 2: No, I do think it's possible, and I do think
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Speaker 2: it's possible to eat reasonably healthy at the on an
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Speaker 2: average three dollars per meal per person per day. So
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Speaker 2: let's say your family of four or five. There are
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Speaker 2: certain things you can make if you're if you're smart
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Speaker 2: and you're cautious about what you're bringing into your house.
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Speaker 1: Where you buy.
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Speaker 2: That food, by the way, super duper important, because yeah,
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Speaker 2: not all grocery stores are created equal.
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Speaker 1: I think it's possible.
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Speaker 2: I just think it's really really hard, right, and you
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Speaker 2: are going to have to be incredibly intentional about buying
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Speaker 2: things on sale and buying, for instance, like the cheaper
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Speaker 2: cuts of meat. The Wall Street Journal did an article
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Speaker 2: about this, and they did they kind of went shopping
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Speaker 2: at some stores and one of the things they found
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Speaker 2: was like, oh, yeah, you can with like one piece
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Speaker 2: of broccoli and some boneless skinless chicken breast. And here's
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Speaker 2: what I was like, that's ridiculous, Like, no one's gonna
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Speaker 2: eat like one piece of broccoli. Sorry, it's not enough
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Speaker 2: for your dinner plate. But when they said boneless skinless
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Speaker 2: chicken breast, I was like, that's the most expensive cut
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Speaker 2: you can buy. Like, you can buy whole chickens. This
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Speaker 2: is something I've been doing regularly lately. I buy two
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Speaker 2: whole chickens at Costco. They're nine to nine cents a pound,
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Speaker 2: and then you cook both of them on a Saturday
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Speaker 2: or Sunday, and you plan your meals for the week
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Speaker 2: around those chickens. Around ten dollars worth of protein. That's
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Speaker 2: the kind of stuff you have to And I'm not
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Speaker 2: saying I eat for three dollars a meal every single
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Speaker 2: week or every single day. But still I think it's
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Speaker 2: possible if you choose the right foods.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, based on what you said, lots
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Speaker 1: of pasta. Obviously, if you're going to get meat, you
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Speaker 1: get lots of body parts of cows and chickens that
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Speaker 1: you would never even talk about. But I guess working
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Speaker 1: is that hard to find? Yeah, I guess it was
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Speaker 1: a question if your food insecure. I mean, clearly you're
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Speaker 1: going to do that, Neil, jump in, And I was
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Speaker 1: thinking of restaurants, by the way, which of course is impossible, Neil,
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Speaker 1: He's spot on and many of us.
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Speaker 3: I used to think it was just a Mexican thing,
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Speaker 3: but apparently it's all over the place. My mom would
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Speaker 3: boil a chicken every Sunday, and it wasn't for an
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Speaker 3: intent for us to eat it that Sunday. It was
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Speaker 3: for the rest of the week, and it would go
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Speaker 3: into rice dishes, it would go into pasta dishes, it
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Speaker 3: would go into enchiladas, whatever it was. But I think
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Speaker 3: you're absolutely right. I think the word you use was
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Speaker 3: intentional or something like that, being intentional about what you purchased,
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Speaker 3: looking for what's on sale. Some of the best cuts
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Speaker 3: of meat, even ground beef is more expensive right now.
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Speaker 3: You could probably get flat meat for a better price
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Speaker 3: and learn to cook it properly and cut it properly
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Speaker 3: and get really.
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Speaker 1: You know, proteins are going to be one of the
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Speaker 1: most expensive things.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, learning how to do these things, I think
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Speaker 3: you absolutely could do it for three bucks a meal.
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Speaker 1: And I want to point something else, Neil, clearly you
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Speaker 1: know how tasty boiled chicken is. There is nothing tastier
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Speaker 1: on the planet.
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Speaker 3: Boiled chicken with a little salt on it still one
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Speaker 3: of my favorite things. Wow, it really is. It's a
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Speaker 3: simple but it brings me back. And you know, I
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Speaker 3: think it's a good way to prep for other meals
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Speaker 3: and for salads and for all kinds of things.
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Speaker 1: All right, fair enough, moving on then, the billionaire tacks
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Speaker 1: in California having an intended consequences, I have to tell you,
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Speaker 1: I think they knew exactly what was going to happen
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Speaker 1: when the billionaire tax was passed. So come in on
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Speaker 1: that if you would. So, so you think they just
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Speaker 1: wanted all the billionaires to vacate. No, they wanted They
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Speaker 1: knew they were going to or was a chance they
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Speaker 1: were going to vacate. And I think somebody did a
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Speaker 1: formula in government simply weighing the consequences and figure out, Okay,
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Speaker 1: we're going to make more money with the tax. It
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Speaker 1: was like the Ford motor case. If you remember the
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Speaker 1: Pinto case where that kid burned to death and the
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Speaker 1: internal MENMO said oh, we're going to have X number
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Speaker 1: of people die, but it's cheaper than redoing all the cars.
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Speaker 1: And I think that went on. But you don't buy that.
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Speaker 1: You think this was totally unintended. I mean, how unintended
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Speaker 1: You knew that was going to happen. Yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 1: you're right.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure there was at least some assumption that this
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Speaker 2: was going to happen to a certain extent. But I
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Speaker 2: just don't know if the people formulating the law were like, oh,
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Speaker 2: there's going to be a mass exodus of talent and
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Speaker 2: wealth from this state if we implement something like a
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Speaker 2: wealth tax, and I get kind of I get the
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Speaker 2: desire right to and we already have right the different
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Speaker 2: a graduated tax system to where.
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Speaker 1: You make more money, you pay more money.
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Speaker 2: And yes, some of the richest among us they pay
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Speaker 2: some of the lowest tax rates because of the way
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Speaker 2: they're income, the way they make their money, and the
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Speaker 2: way it's tax and a lot of what the richest
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Speaker 2: people in the country, it's it's like wealth on paper, right,
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Speaker 2: and so this is an attempt to get some tax
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Speaker 2: revenue from the wealth that exists on paper. And I
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Speaker 2: totally understand why they want to do that, but I
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Speaker 2: just when you look at past examples of wealth taxes
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Speaker 2: and what happens. The billionaires tend to flee, and it
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Speaker 2: reduces actually your tax base in the state, and it
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Speaker 2: reduces opportunity and businesses. Businesses tend to move out of
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Speaker 2: a state like this. It actually has I think the
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Speaker 2: unintended effect is actually worse than what you were hoping
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Speaker 2: to get from this new legislation.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's and billionaires don't spend that much money.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they live large, but when you talk about
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Speaker 1: someone who is worth ten twelve four billion dollars, that
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Speaker 1: net worth is all stocks and it's all annuities, and
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Speaker 1: it's not income coming in. The income coming in is
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Speaker 1: relative to the wealth, not that much. But hey, welcome
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Speaker 1: to California. You know that. How about the mansion tax
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Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles and what that did to the
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Speaker 1: sale of Holmes right exactly?
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's just another I think it's just another
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Speaker 2: problematic way of trying to drive tax revenue. And the
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Speaker 2: other thing that's going to happen here is if those
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Speaker 2: billionaires leave, if they take their businesses with them because
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Speaker 2: they want to avoid this punitive tax. I think one
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Speaker 2: you might say, oh, well, you have enough money to
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Speaker 2: pay this tax, so just.
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Speaker 1: Get it over with. Like who cares?
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Speaker 2: And who cares if you have ninety five billion instead
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Speaker 2: of one hundred billion dollars? And there is one case
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Speaker 2: to be made for that, But oftentimes, because these are
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Speaker 2: paper valuations and there's the sale of stock and capital
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Speaker 2: gains tax to go along with it, there are other
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Speaker 2: considerations that need to be made. And it also just
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Speaker 2: feels I think for these billionaires. I mean I'm not
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Speaker 2: shedding a tear for any of them, but that it's like, well,
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Speaker 2: if I'm going to.
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Speaker 1: Live in a state where there's opportunity.
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Speaker 2: But do I want to live somewhere where they're constantly
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Speaker 2: looking at me as a source of revenue and maybe
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Speaker 2: the money's not being spent in a way that seems appropriate.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, makes sense. And the issue is moving the businesses.
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Speaker 1: I think is that is a big hit because those
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Speaker 1: are jobs that are disappearing, and that is I think
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Speaker 1: far more detrimental to certainly our economy. All Right, Joel,
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Speaker 1: thank you. We'll catch you this Sunday from twelve to
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Speaker 1: two pm. Sorry, thanks Bill. All Right, Okay, this morning
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Speaker 1: we had a fun conversation about names, and Neil's name
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Speaker 1: came up in that it's Neil, and he said that
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Speaker 1: his father happened to be a big fan of the
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Speaker 1: Space program. So Neil, you are named after Neil Armstrong
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Speaker 1: and Edwin Aldron aka buzz Aldron. Okay, so it's Neil
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Speaker 1: Edwin okay.
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Speaker 3: And I actually met another Neil Edwin Savedra Latino, who
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Speaker 3: was also named was born within a couple of days
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Speaker 3: of me and was a fan of your show and
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Speaker 3: decades ago set me a fax of his driver's license
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Speaker 3: and he had the exact same name for the exact
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Speaker 3: same reason.
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Speaker 1: Why wasn't if he's a fan, why wouldn't he call
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Speaker 1: himself William handle that that's a real fan. So Neil's
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Speaker 1: name is he was named after Neil Armstrong and Edwin
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Speaker 1: was named okay, so so he's named after them. My name,
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Speaker 1: William is I was named after some guy named William
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Speaker 1: and I have no idea who he was, yes, okay,
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Speaker 1: So with that it got me spinning immediately in terms
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Speaker 1: of the space program and the story we did with
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Speaker 1: Elon Musk and how he we The conversation was is
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Speaker 1: how he reinvented and he's a visionary, and how he's
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Speaker 1: now getting into robotics, and he reinvented the space the
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Speaker 1: space race effectively, how we go into space? And I
15:48
Speaker 1: remember once I actually went to SpaceX in Hawthorne. I
15:52
Speaker 1: was invited, and I remember going through it and one
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Speaker 1: of the engineers who was leading actually guiding me through it,
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Speaker 1: and I said, you know what was Musk's thinking? And
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Speaker 1: he said, it's real simple. Basically he thought of spacecraft
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Speaker 1: as buses. That's it. You know, you get on a bus,
16:12
Speaker 1: you go from A to B and you come back
16:14
Speaker 1: from BDA, which is simply the space the concept of
16:19
Speaker 1: capsules and rockets that really never even occurred to the
16:22
Speaker 1: folks at NASA that they would be reused. I mean,
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Speaker 1: the guy's a visionary. So what he did, of course,
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Speaker 1: is invent the reusable rocket and change everything. And then
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Speaker 1: when I mean change everything, he did it politically also,
16:40
Speaker 1: because we're talking about with Neil's name back, we go
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Speaker 1: to the first moonshot and how spacecraft in those days
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Speaker 1: were built by NASA never even occurred to anybody to
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Speaker 1: have any other organization entity other than governments create spacecraft.
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Speaker 1: We're in the middle of the space race with the Russia.
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Speaker 1: The government was building those spacecraft. We were building this
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Speaker 1: our spacecraft with NASA overseeing it. All unlimited budgets, triple redundancy,
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Speaker 1: insanely expensive and used once. And the analogy is you
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Speaker 1: build a seven forty seven, you take off from LA
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Speaker 1: you go to New York, and then you throw it
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Speaker 1: away and you go, wait a minute, that doesn't make
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Speaker 1: any sense. Well, that's exactly what we were doing, and
17:28
Speaker 1: so he changed it all completely. So what I want
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Speaker 1: to do is come back and give you a little
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Speaker 1: bit of history, factoids about what happened with Neil's namesake.
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Speaker 1: For his namesake after How does that work? Namesake? Is
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Speaker 1: you're named after or someone creates the name that's after you,
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Speaker 1: Neil Armstrong namesake? Got it all right? I understand now,
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Speaker 1: thank you. It's in a shafe. It's a nickname for
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Speaker 1: a wiener. Yeah pretty much, Yeah, thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: Well said. Now, I want to go back to the
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Speaker 1: segment that we were doing, and that is Neil's name.
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Speaker 1: And we know that Neil Savager is named after Neil
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Speaker 1: Armstrong and buzz Aldrin, so he's Neil Edwin Savadrum. And
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Speaker 1: then it got me spinning into the space race in
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Speaker 1: general and what Musk is doing and how he completely
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Speaker 1: reinvented the way the United States goes into space and
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Speaker 1: actually now the rest of the world. He has eighty
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Speaker 1: percent of the entire world market of spacecraft going up.
18:37
Speaker 1: And so when the space race actually started started in
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Speaker 1: the fifties, and you know, the first astronauts were all pilots.
18:45
Speaker 1: They were fighter pilots or they were test pilots for
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Speaker 1: the CIA. That was President Eisenhower who made that decision saying,
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Speaker 1: oh no, I want pilots, not that you need pilots
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Speaker 1: to fly spacecraft, but that was what he said, and
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Speaker 1: so what happened nas in those days did all of
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Speaker 1: the work. I mean, it was super complicated. And then
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Speaker 1: just a quick story. Now we're talking about the moon
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Speaker 1: shot and the three astronauts that went up into and
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Speaker 1: landed on the Moon for the first time in history,
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Speaker 1: and the importance of it, you know, a good part
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Speaker 1: of the world with watching that live on television, and
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Speaker 1: the magnitude of man being first on the moon and
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Speaker 1: the sheer audacity of human kind landing on the moon
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Speaker 1: the first time that man Americans had landed on the Moon,
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Speaker 1: and the pictures we saw in the views, I mean,
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Speaker 1: it was extraordinary. So after the aircraft or the spacecraft
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Speaker 1: had landed and the astronauts had done their what thirty
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Speaker 1: days or whatever in over three weeks and solitary confinement,
19:55
Speaker 1: then in case of any bizarre diseases, then they were
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Speaker 1: put on world tour as a propaganda you know, just
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Speaker 1: to show the world how great we are. And it
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Speaker 1: was a straight propaganda tour, which is fine, and people
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Speaker 1: were asking him about them all kinds of these questions. Now,
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Speaker 1: Prince Philip, Queen Elizabeth's husband, was able to get thirty
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Speaker 1: or fifteen minutes with them, and they were not supposed
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Speaker 1: to meet with him because it was so rushed, and
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Speaker 1: he got a private fifteen minute interview, and he kept
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Speaker 1: on asking especially and by the way, all three of
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Speaker 1: them had colds at the time, so they were feeling miserable,
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Speaker 1: and he kept on asking them, did you understand how
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Speaker 1: big a deal this is? Did you look around and go,
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Speaker 1: this is the first time man has stepped on the moon.
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Speaker 1: Did you understand the magnitude of it? And Armstrong said no,
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Speaker 1: not particularly, and Prince Philip couldn't understand it. You guys
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Speaker 1: were the first people on the moon. And it turned
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Speaker 1: out here's a fun factoid part. It turned out it
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Speaker 1: was no big deal for the three of them. They
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Speaker 1: were technocrats. They were there to do their job and
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Speaker 1: that was it. And there in the second by second
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Speaker 1: they were so full of what they had to do
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Speaker 1: it was time to the second. They didn't even pay
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Speaker 1: much attention. They were basically pilots, and they were there
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Speaker 1: as technology guys who had a job to do, and
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Speaker 1: they went around and pick up the samples and they
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Speaker 1: walked around and they're the three people in the world
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Speaker 1: that literally had no idea of the magnitude of what
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Speaker 1: they did. Hey, we had a job to do. We
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Speaker 1: did it. Armstrong was never impressed with the fact that
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Speaker 1: he was the first guy on the moon. Did you
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Speaker 1: know that? Never because he just had a job to
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Speaker 1: do and it happened to be on the moon. You know,
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Speaker 1: he had been a pilot his entire life, and it
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Speaker 1: just okay, now what And I find that so interesting
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Speaker 1: that they were the ones, They were the three people
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Speaker 1: on the planet that really didn't give a rats about
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Speaker 1: the fact they were on the Moon. And I don't
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Speaker 1: know if you knew that, but and I don't care
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Speaker 1: if you did that or not. I don't care if
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Speaker 1: you don't care. I find that absolutely fascinating. Okay, there
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Speaker 1: you go. Kno, did you know that, by the way,
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Speaker 1: any of that that we didn't land on the moon? Yes, no, idea,
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Speaker 1: we did land. Well, thank you very much. This is
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Speaker 1: why Kono will never be promoted. No, I understand that
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Speaker 1: you knew we landed on the moon, But did you
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Speaker 1: know the stories behind that? The three guys who didn't
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Speaker 1: care and they were up there and really didn't pay
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Speaker 1: attention as to the magnitude of what they did. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that makes sense for guys that didn't land on the moon. Yeah, okay,
22:44
Speaker 1: they did land on the moon. Okay, it makes sense
22:48
Speaker 1: for guys that didn't land on the moon. They did
22:49
Speaker 1: land on the moon. Boy. This story is going nowhere
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Speaker 1: very quickly, but thank you for that. Coming up, it's
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Speaker 1: Gary and Shannon tomorrow. It's ask Handle Anything following the
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Speaker 1: food segment of our show Foody Friday, and that starts
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Speaker 1: at eight o'clock with Neil eight thirty. It's asked Handle Anything.
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Speaker 1: We've got some great questions, as we usually do, Neil
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Speaker 1: putting together some really humiliating, embarrassing questions for me. Correct
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Speaker 1: always best part. Okay, that's what we do every Friday.
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Speaker 1: We're not gonna get emails on that one, right, Bill Hamblin. Okay,
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Speaker 1: five am tomorrow morning. Amy quit laughing to five o'clock
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Speaker 1: tomorrow morning with Amy and Will and then Neil and
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Speaker 1: I come aboard and cono and and put all this
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Speaker 1: together and make me look as stupid, But they don't
23:56
Speaker 1: have to make me look as stupid as this is
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