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Mark interviews NY Post columnist Michael Goodwin. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: Back to Martimon.
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  Speaker 2: I r.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Michael Goodwin the best columnist in America. You can
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  Speaker 1: read them every Sunday and every Wednesday in the New
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  Speaker 1: York Post. All his columns are up on the New
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  Speaker 1: York Post website. You should go take a look at them.
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  Speaker 1: Michael Goodwin, how you doing.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Mark? Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: There was no column yesterday. You ruined my Sunday. I
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  Speaker 1: know it was a holiday, was.
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  Speaker 2: East I was gonna say almost every Sunday and almost
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  Speaker 2: every day.
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  Speaker 1: So what do you think the left going absolutely nuts
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  Speaker 1: trying to convince us we're losing everything in Iran. It
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  Speaker 1: looks like it's going pretty well to me when you agree, yes.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Mark, I was just the pictures of their
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  Speaker 2: downed American aircraft in this incident, and of course the
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  Speaker 2: rescue is unbelievable story, but the picture of the down
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  Speaker 2: the aircraft. The first thing that went to mind was
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  Speaker 2: Jimmy Carter's attempt to rescue the hostages, and of course
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  Speaker 2: the disaster of that effort, and it really, as Carter
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  Speaker 2: said later, it probably cost him the election because the
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  Speaker 2: hostages were held for something like four hundred and forty
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  Speaker 2: four days until Ronald Reagan was elected, and it struck
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  Speaker 2: me that that failed effort, bungled effort by Jimmy Carter,
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  Speaker 2: in some ways became emblematic of this presidency. And if
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump, if this incident becomes emblematic of his presidency,
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  Speaker 2: then I think he's at a whole different course right
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  Speaker 2: looking at history, and that this is a good omen
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  Speaker 2: about this war, as I hope it is. That Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump will have pulled off quite a miracle there.
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  Speaker 1: Well, normal people say, wow, this was unbelievable, this rescue.
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  Speaker 1: But if you're watching television or reading the New York Times,
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  Speaker 1: all you keep hearing about is, well, it proves Iran
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  Speaker 1: is still strong. They were shot down two of our helicopters.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously they still have plenty of offensive capability. So what
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  Speaker 1: do you do about that media spin? How do you
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  Speaker 1: fight that?
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  Speaker 2: There isn't much you can do if you're the lighthouse
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  Speaker 2: at this point. I mean, they look, they hate Trump,
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  Speaker 2: everything about Trump. You know, we were in a quagmire
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  Speaker 2: in the third day. You know, they were on more.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it was Stantnamo over before we even began.
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  Speaker 2: But look, I think if Trump try for kind of
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  Speaker 2: shadow box, which he offer, does against that media I
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  Speaker 2: think it'll only kind of they'll dig in their heels
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  Speaker 2: and he'll get more and more frustrated. I think what
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  Speaker 2: he needs needs to be able to do as much
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  Speaker 2: as possible ignore them and let his record speak for
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  Speaker 2: itself to the American people. There are still enough media
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  Speaker 2: organizations that will cover the actual events instead of the
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  Speaker 2: anxiety and personal opinion of the reporters. But I think
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  Speaker 2: if Trump gets deeply involved in fighting this media war,
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  Speaker 2: it's only going to be to his own detriment because
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  Speaker 2: they're never going to admit that he's right about anything.
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  Speaker 1: Well, of course you're right, but have you ever said
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  Speaker 1: that Donald Trump just ignore the Chris.
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  Speaker 2: Either. Look, I think on a human side, we will
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  Speaker 2: all face the same temptation. But I think it if
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  Speaker 2: he wants to go down as a successful president, thick
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  Speaker 2: only in this context of Iran that we're talking about,
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  Speaker 2: then I think he's going to have to focus more
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  Speaker 2: and more on the accomplishments and let the record show
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  Speaker 2: that if you have the thinged one of the nuclear
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  Speaker 2: Islamist power, then you're on the right course to doing that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're talking Michael Goodwin, the greatest calumnist in America,
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  Speaker 1: and then President Trump but tweets out open the F
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  Speaker 1: and straight he uses the F word. It will blow
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  Speaker 1: you into the stone. You're not supposed to talk like
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  Speaker 1: that when you're a president. You're not supposed to ever
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  Speaker 1: use that kind of language as a professional government. But
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  Speaker 1: Trump does it all the time. When will people finally
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  Speaker 1: get used to it and stop going crazy over it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I think they there's some kind of imaginary way
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  Speaker 2: a president is supposed to conduct himself publicly. But this
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  Speaker 2: is not a standard that they held Joe Biden too
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  Speaker 2: right in terms of he couldn't remember anything, he couldn't
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  Speaker 2: answer questions his son's corruption. That was that these issues
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  Speaker 2: were kind of glossed over because Joe Biden didn't attack
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  Speaker 2: the media. So it's really a personal fight that the
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  Speaker 2: New York Times, the Washington Post, many other elements are
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  Speaker 2: having with Donald Trump. It's not about their job. There's
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  Speaker 2: journalists so much as it is personal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, Michael Goodwin, mayor Mom, Donny. It's just about
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  Speaker 1: one hundred days now. Hard to believe, but this is
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  Speaker 1: his first hundred days. What do you think he said?
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  Speaker 1: As crazy as he is, the good news is he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't seem to actually get anything done. So I guess
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  Speaker 1: that's good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it does seem longer than one hundred days, isn't it?
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  Speaker 2: Some like forever? Look, I think mark the thing that's
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  Speaker 2: coming up. It's coming like a freight train. Is this
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  Speaker 2: issue of the budget and whether the city standing among
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  Speaker 2: investors declines and therefore has to pay even more higher
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  Speaker 2: interest rates to borrow money. And so this downgrade of
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  Speaker 2: the credit watch from stable to negative by three bond
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  Speaker 2: rating agencies is a real bread alert for him if
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  Speaker 2: he really wants to kind of keep any kind of
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  Speaker 2: public confidence. But if you think back to the city
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  Speaker 2: fiscal crisis of the seventies, you really remember how that
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  Speaker 2: lack of confidence in the York fed on itself, people
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  Speaker 2: that businesses leaving the city. You don't want because financial
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  Speaker 2: crisis can have can foster all kinds of other crisis,
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  Speaker 2: crime crisis, for example. So Mandani needs to take this
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  Speaker 2: seriously down.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned if you we had Andrew Cuomo as
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  Speaker 1: a governor, he was so far to the left, no bail,
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  Speaker 1: no jail, close the prisoners, wouldn't he He would have
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  Speaker 1: been awful as a mayor.
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  Speaker 2: I think probably, Yeah, we'll never know, Right, he's smitties.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there's any political career for Andrew Como.
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  Speaker 2: But I voted for him because not because I had
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  Speaker 2: great love for his record, but because I think he
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  Speaker 2: would have been better than Mamdani on fundamentals like this. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Uh well yeah, people say he'd be better with the police.
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  Speaker 1: But again, he's the guy that gave us no bail,
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  Speaker 1: no jail. He's the guy that threw Ice out of
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  Speaker 1: New York. He was no better. In fact, he might
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  Speaker 1: have been worse than that. He actually was brave enough
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  Speaker 1: to actually try to get stuff done. But so we
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  Speaker 1: missed the call. We went to get a column on Wednesday, right,
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  Speaker 1: Oh yes, oh good, it's not Sunday without your column.
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  Speaker 1: But Michael Goodwin, great stuff. Thanks for being with us,
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  Speaker 1: my pleasure. Thank you, Mark, take care. Uh hey, just
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  Speaker 1: so you know, let me just check again.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Stock market up, yep, the Dow is up. You know,
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  Speaker 1: if you were watching all the Sunday shows, uh, they
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  Speaker 1: had you convinced that the president's tweeting about using the
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  Speaker 1: F word, the President saying we're going to blow her
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  Speaker 1: in into the stone age. Why, this is the end
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  Speaker 1: of the world. This is when the US we actually
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  Speaker 1: heard this all over these Sunday shows and Oliver Morning
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  Speaker 1: Joe type shows today. The US will never recover from
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  Speaker 1: that tweet. Our standing in the world will be dementu
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think so. The stock
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  Speaker 1: market actually up today.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: One reason it's up. The other thing, if you're watching
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  Speaker 1: all that left wing media, they'll convince you that the
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  Speaker 1: economy is in so much trouble the economy is to say, well, actually,
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  Speaker 1: the economy is doing just fine. The job numbers. Remember
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  Speaker 1: the market was closed on Friday, so today they're reacting
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  Speaker 1: to the Friday numbers that came out. The job numbers
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  Speaker 1: were spectacular, not just better than expected, but way better
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  Speaker 1: than expected. I mean stunningly better than expected. Corporate profits,
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  Speaker 1: which I know liberals hate that, but that's really what
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  Speaker 1: fuels the market. Corporate profits are doing very well. The
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  Speaker 1: stock market is up as a result, market doing great. Hey, yeah,
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