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82 | Uncomfortable with the Hazards · Sermons on the Side

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SPEAKER_04: Welcome to Sermons on the Side.
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SPEAKER_04: I'm Brad.
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SPEAKER_04: And I'm Richard.
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SPEAKER_04: And life can move pretty fast.
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SPEAKER_04: So we're here to slow down, dig deep, and find the story hidden in everyday moments.
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SPEAKER_02: With years spent in ministry, friendship, and navigating real life together, we're all about blending humor, honesty, and faith into conversations that meet you right where you are.
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SPEAKER_04: So whether you're brand new or you're back for more, we are so glad you are here.
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SPEAKER_02: So relax, listen in, and let's discover meaning together.
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SPEAKER_04: In the ordinary, the messy, and everything in between.
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SPEAKER_02: Sermons on the side, finding meaning in the everyday.
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SPEAKER_02: And Ankat has her little bag of uh leftovers and everything.
0:48
SPEAKER_02: And so she pulls out her half a sandwich and the fries that are left over, the nuggets or whatever, and then she pulls out that plant.
0:56
SPEAKER_02: And she sets it right in front of her food and she eats while she's looking at it.
1:02
SPEAKER_00: And we went, What did you stole that?
1:06
SPEAKER_02: And she says, Yes, I did.
1:09
SPEAKER_00: But that's that's Chick-fil-A that's stealing from the Lord.
1:12
SPEAKER_02: No, the if it was the Lord's, he wanted me to have it.
1:15
SPEAKER_02: So I brought it home.
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SPEAKER_05: She said, she said, the Lord wanted me to have that.
1:40
SPEAKER_04: It is Sermons on the Side Day.
1:42
SPEAKER_04: How are you, Richard?
1:43
SPEAKER_04: Good to see you.
1:44
SPEAKER_01: Great.
1:45
SPEAKER_01: Doing great.
1:45
SPEAKER_01: Welcome back to the table.
1:47
SPEAKER_04: I know.
1:47
SPEAKER_04: It feels like it's been longer than a week since we've seen each other.
1:50
SPEAKER_04: I won't see away for a week.
1:53
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:53
SPEAKER_04: Oh, well, no, it has been longer than a week since we've seen each other.
1:56
SPEAKER_04: That's why it feels that way.
1:58
SPEAKER_04: Sorry about that.
1:59
SPEAKER_04: We've released episodes in the meantime.
2:01
SPEAKER_04: But yeah, you were welcome back from your staycation.
2:03
SPEAKER_04: Not staycation, your actual vacation.
2:05
SPEAKER_02: It was a vacay.
2:06
SPEAKER_02: Went down to that beach house.
2:07
SPEAKER_02: Indeed.
2:08
SPEAKER_02: Trailer.
2:08
SPEAKER_02: The trailer.
2:09
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
2:10
SPEAKER_02: And didn't get sunburnt.
2:12
SPEAKER_04: Very good.
2:12
SPEAKER_04: And you must have been using my SPF.
2:15
SPEAKER_02: Which is what?
2:16
SPEAKER_04: Like 400.
2:17
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
2:19
SPEAKER_04: We're close to four digits on that SPF.
2:21
SPEAKER_04: I've got two colors in this summer.
2:23
SPEAKER_04: It's burnt, not burnt.
2:24
SPEAKER_04: You feel me?
2:25
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I do, my brother.
2:27
SPEAKER_02: But anyway, it's great to be back.
2:29
SPEAKER_02: Looking forward to this uh this recording, man.
2:32
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, dude, it's super excited.
2:33
SPEAKER_04: And man, we we've just got some really, really cool things that have happened over the last couple of weeks.
2:38
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
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SPEAKER_04: Not only did we celebrate 10,000 downloads just a couple of weeks ago, but y'all be praying for Richard and I.
2:45
SPEAKER_04: We've got some really, really cool, possible decisions coming up and uh about growing and expanding the podcast.
2:55
SPEAKER_04: So, yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: So, anyways, that's all we're gonna kind of tease at right now, but you guys pray for us and uh oh man, just so much fun, cool stuff going on.
3:02
SPEAKER_02: Indeed, and that you referenced the 10K uh celebration episode, and we've gotten so much good feedback from that.
3:09
SPEAKER_02: And uh, but I will say this uh Rika really Rika really dropped the ball.
3:15
SPEAKER_02: Wait, what?
3:17
SPEAKER_02: On that episode.
3:18
SPEAKER_02: How?
3:19
SPEAKER_02: Well, you remember how it was just so cool to have so many different voices from our listeners chiming in, just sharing their love and support for the podcast.
3:30
SPEAKER_02: And and um you know what happened was it just never occurred to me that maybe I should ask my darling wife Rhonda to record a message for us.
3:44
SPEAKER_02: Okay, and so you know, I we're just kind of trucking along, we're doing our thing.
3:51
SPEAKER_02: We you you we put that together, you you edited it so marvelously.
3:56
SPEAKER_02: Oh, thank you so and and then on episode on drop day, she was like, um, hey, I'm standing right here.
4:05
SPEAKER_02: Oh no! Why didn't you ask me?
4:07
SPEAKER_02: You know, she was a little disappointed.
4:09
SPEAKER_02: Oh, she wanted in on the fun, but you should not feel terrible.
4:14
SPEAKER_02: Do you know why?
4:15
SPEAKER_02: Why?
4:16
SPEAKER_02: Because it's all me.
4:17
SPEAKER_02: It's on me.
4:19
SPEAKER_02: If you were if we were a video podcast, you'd see me pointing at myself right now.
4:23
SPEAKER_04: This is me.
4:24
SPEAKER_04: I will say the week or the days leading up to it when we were you know compiling all of these.
4:29
SPEAKER_04: I I brought my mom, my dad, my wife, my uncle, my auntie.
4:35
SPEAKER_04: I brought a bunch of people.
4:38
SPEAKER_04: And I, you know, there was a single Rico family member representing not one.
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SPEAKER_02: Not my kid, not my sister, and most of my not my wife.
4:49
SPEAKER_02: And so she was disappointed, and she was very gracious with me.
4:52
SPEAKER_02: But she was like, What if people think that I don't support the body?
4:56
SPEAKER_04: Oh no, which we know that's not true.
5:00
SPEAKER_04: Right?
5:01
SPEAKER_04: She, her and Lisa Williams, come on, the top of the list of both loyal supporters, the most avid listeners, and quite frankly, the people that make the biggest sacrifice for this podcast, because they're taking care of everybody while we get to come.
5:18
SPEAKER_04: This doesn't happen without the two of them.
5:20
SPEAKER_02: Am I right?
5:21
SPEAKER_04: 100%.
5:21
SPEAKER_02: And so she was just disappointed.
5:23
SPEAKER_02: Of course, she was fine.
5:24
SPEAKER_02: She got over it, and it's fine.
5:25
SPEAKER_02: Then that then that night, every Thursday night, we go to our life group, the small group at church.
5:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and uh, you know, Scotty Scott, he's one of our listeners, was on our our Thanksgiving uh pivot episode.
5:38
SPEAKER_02: And uh Scotty and Sandy, they host this, and we go in there, and people are congratulating us for the 10k.
5:45
SPEAKER_02: And before Rhonda said a word, she didn't say nothing about how disappointed she was and she didn't get to be on the you know, to share her heart and her well wishes.
5:56
SPEAKER_02: That's all she wanted to do.
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SPEAKER_02: It's not like she wanted, you know, it wasn't like record me.
6:01
SPEAKER_02: It was just more she wanted to show her.
6:03
SPEAKER_02: Of course, and uh so before she said she didn't say nothing to nobody, and four people or three people from the life group were like, Did we miss yours?
6:13
SPEAKER_02: I was listening for you, and I'm like, Oh Rico, what have you done?
6:20
SPEAKER_02: You oh don't be a doofus, Rico.
6:24
SPEAKER_04: Well anyway, but uh Rhonda, I love you, and I know Richard does, but you know, that's messed up.
6:34
SPEAKER_04: That's messed up.
6:36
SPEAKER_02: One day we're gonna have production, we're gonna have music, we're gonna have sound effects, and that's gonna be one of them.
6:41
SPEAKER_04: That's messed up.
6:43
SPEAKER_04: There's a button that we just press.
6:46
SPEAKER_02: That's messed up.
6:47
SPEAKER_02: Um so there you go.
6:49
SPEAKER_02: There you go.
6:50
SPEAKER_02: Oh, you know what?
6:52
SPEAKER_02: And and on a serious note, okay.
6:54
SPEAKER_02: I I just had we had a thing happen in our family uh this this just recently, actually, just yesterday.
7:01
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
7:01
SPEAKER_02: Uh as on the date of this recording, it was 20 about 24 hours ago, that uh, or a little more that my uh one of my my aunts, you know when we had this whole conversation.
7:13
SPEAKER_02: What do you call your aunt?
7:14
SPEAKER_02: Your parents' sister.
7:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Auntie, aunt, aunt, okay, whatever.
7:20
SPEAKER_02: Right.
7:21
SPEAKER_02: And I said I was always aunt, and in some situations, ain't.
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SPEAKER_02: Ain't that and one of my beloved aunts passed away yesterday.
7:30
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
7:31
SPEAKER_02: Aunt Kat.
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SPEAKER_02: She went on in to be with the Lord.
7:35
SPEAKER_02: And uh she uh lived over near Jackson, Mississippi.
7:38
SPEAKER_04: Ain't Cat.
7:39
SPEAKER_04: She was she she'd listen to the podcast because you had a cousin that.
7:42
SPEAKER_04: Yes, my cousin Walter.
7:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's right.
7:45
SPEAKER_02: He texted me out of the blue because I had let him know.
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SPEAKER_02: Look, I give Aunt Kat a shout-out in this particular episode.
7:51
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I don't remember what episode number it was.
7:53
SPEAKER_02: But anyway, it was a segment about that.
7:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
7:56
SPEAKER_02: And uh how Aunt Cat used to she, I was her favorite.
8:00
SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry, I just was.
8:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, hey, you're just and she used to say this phrase, she said, Richard, you are the best boy.
8:06
SPEAKER_02: And I said, boy.
8:07
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's a two-syllable word in the South.
8:10
SPEAKER_02: And so, but uh, but Aunt Kat.
8:12
SPEAKER_02: And so Walter let Aunt Cat about a few weeks ago, he let her listen to that episode and sent me a picture, which I sent to you.
8:20
SPEAKER_02: You remember?
8:21
SPEAKER_02: Right.
8:21
SPEAKER_04: I that's what made me think about it.
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SPEAKER_02: And you could probably see in that photo, her health was really uh declining.
8:27
SPEAKER_02: But man, it was just she she went on to be with the Lord and she was so ready, she was waiting, she was impatiently waiting for the Lord to bring her home.
8:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she was the last of my uh mom's siblings, and so my my sister Laura posted a picture or did a post on social after Ant Cat died, and she said the Palmer, that's the that's the their last name, uh their maiden names, the Palmer siblings are all together again because now they're all together in heaven.
9:00
SPEAKER_02: Wow, so I loved it, man.
9:02
SPEAKER_02: That was so cool.
9:04
SPEAKER_02: Uh but I gotta tell you this Ant Cat story because she was a pistol.
9:07
SPEAKER_02: Okay, I'm telling you, man.
9:09
SPEAKER_02: There was nobody like her.
9:10
SPEAKER_02: It was one of one for sure, right?
9:13
SPEAKER_02: So uh she came to Columbus and visited us.
9:16
SPEAKER_02: It's probably been about four or five years ago.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, because both my mom and my older sister, Lisa, were still living.
9:24
SPEAKER_02: And so we went to Chick-fil-A on Whittlesey Bubble, kind of that main shopping drag.
9:30
SPEAKER_02: And we were just having a good old time, man.
9:33
SPEAKER_02: And uh and Kat, she was, you know, she was sitting there and she commented on how much she liked these little fake plants that were like the the table dressing, a little centerpiece on the table.
9:48
SPEAKER_04: Like the little succulents or whatever.
9:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
9:50
SPEAKER_02: They weren't the tall vase with fake roses or carnations or whatever.
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SPEAKER_02: It was those small little succulents.
9:55
SPEAKER_02: She's like, that's cool.
9:56
SPEAKER_02: I want one of them.
9:57
SPEAKER_02: And we're like, yeah, and we're teasing her about it.
10:00
SPEAKER_02: We're like, yeah, we'll we'll go find you one at at Walmart or something.
10:04
SPEAKER_02: She said, but I like that one.
10:05
SPEAKER_02: I said, And Kat, you can't have that.
10:08
SPEAKER_02: That's that's the Lord, this is the Lord's chicken.
10:11
SPEAKER_02: You know, you don't you can't just take things.
10:13
SPEAKER_02: She's like, all right, fine.
10:14
SPEAKER_04: That's a holy succulent right there.
10:16
SPEAKER_02: So anyway, we get uh some some food to go and then we we head home.
10:21
SPEAKER_02: We get back to the house.
10:22
SPEAKER_02: We're all sitting around, and Aunt Kat has her little bag of uh leftovers and everything.
10:27
SPEAKER_02: And so she pulls out her half a sandwich and the fries that are left over, the nuggets or whatever, and then she pulls out that plant and she sits it right in front of her her food and she eats while she's looking at it.
10:41
SPEAKER_02: And we went, huh?
10:43
SPEAKER_00: What did you you stole that?
10:45
SPEAKER_02: And she says, Yes, I did.
10:48
SPEAKER_02: But that's that's Chick-fil-A, that's stealing from the Lord.
10:51
SPEAKER_02: No, the if it was the Lord's, he wanted me to have it.
10:54
SPEAKER_02: So I brought it home.
10:55
SPEAKER_05: She says, She said, the Lord wanted me to have that.
11:00
SPEAKER_04: So I'm nothing but an obedient servant to Jesus Christ.
11:05
SPEAKER_04: Oh my word.
11:08
SPEAKER_02: Oh, bro.
11:08
SPEAKER_02: So I just give shout out to uh Walter and Nora and and and their kids.
11:13
SPEAKER_02: Uh uh, you know, just mourning, mourning the lost, but celebrating.
11:18
SPEAKER_02: Because ain't cat's where exactly where she wants to be.
11:21
SPEAKER_04: Amen.
11:21
SPEAKER_04: I might go steal a Chick-fil-A succulent this weekend in her honor.
11:25
SPEAKER_02: Hey, why don't we have all our listeners?
11:28
SPEAKER_02: No, I'm kidding.
11:32
SPEAKER_02: We're a mess.
11:33
SPEAKER_02: The start of this episode has been all over the place, has it not?
11:36
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, don't do as we say, nor as we do.
11:39
SPEAKER_04: Oh, by the way, here's some Jesus advice.
11:42
SPEAKER_05: Now let us tell you how to find God in the ordinary things.
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SPEAKER_06: I was I was a chick-play.
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SPEAKER_04: And I thought I saw this older lady put a succulent in a to-go bag.
11:58
SPEAKER_04: And I thought to myself, man, she's preparing for the journey.
12:04
SPEAKER_06: It's ahead of her.
12:06
SPEAKER_06: Preparing for the ancient path.
12:09
SPEAKER_02: I will say this.
12:10
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna tell you this, and I'm being serious.
12:12
SPEAKER_02: We don't want anybody to steal anything from any uh fast food or quick service restaurant, okay?
12:18
SPEAKER_02: We don't want that.
12:19
SPEAKER_04: Disclaimer.
12:20
SPEAKER_02: But I will tell you this: if you find any of our listeners, you find yourselves at a Chick-fil-A and they got some kind of plant or centerpiece, send us a picture of you and that centerpiece in honor of Aunt Cat, and we will post it and we will we really won't give you anything because we don't have anything to give away.
12:36
SPEAKER_02: But we would love to get a bunch of pictures in honor of Aunt Cat of stuff at Chick-fil-A.
12:42
SPEAKER_02: Lord help us.
12:43
SPEAKER_02: Lord help us.
12:44
SPEAKER_02: Are you ready for episode 82?
12:48
SPEAKER_04: I mean, we send our listeners on some pretty big seesaws of emotion, but yeah, let's go from that to our sermon on the side.
12:55
SPEAKER_02: Hey, 82.
12:56
SPEAKER_02: You know something pops in my head when I see the number 82?
13:00
SPEAKER_02: 82.
13:00
SPEAKER_04: Ain't cat stealing something from I'm just getting, I'm sorry, let's lock in.
13:04
SPEAKER_04: 82.
13:05
SPEAKER_04: Uh, what you got?
13:07
SPEAKER_02: I graduated high school in the year of our Lord, 1982.
13:12
SPEAKER_04: Whoa, 82.
13:14
SPEAKER_04: Class of 82.
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SPEAKER_04: Class of 802.
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SPEAKER_02: The few, the proud.
13:18
SPEAKER_02: You know how many people were in my graduating class?
13:20
SPEAKER_02: It was it was 30.
13:21
SPEAKER_04: 30 in your graduation class?
13:23
SPEAKER_04: 30.
13:23
SPEAKER_02: No, 33.
13:24
SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry.
13:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
13:25
SPEAKER_02: 33.
13:25
SPEAKER_02: Some short, short and three in my class.
13:29
SPEAKER_02: 33.
13:30
SPEAKER_02: No, we're just in a tiny town.
13:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
13:32
SPEAKER_02: 33 people in my graduating class.
13:34
SPEAKER_02: And here's what I tell people: I say, you know, I graduated in the top third of my high school class.
13:39
SPEAKER_04: Is that with or without the 33?
13:42
SPEAKER_05: Nine out of 33.
13:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, nine out of 33.
13:44
SPEAKER_05: Ninth out of 33.
13:45
SPEAKER_05: Oh, god.
13:47
SPEAKER_04: It was it was the math scores that were holding you back, wasn't it?
13:51
SPEAKER_05: It broke me down, man.
13:54
SPEAKER_05: 82, man.
13:56
SPEAKER_05: That's awesome.
13:57
SPEAKER_04: 1982.
13:58
SPEAKER_02: Who knew?
13:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
13:59
SPEAKER_04: You know what I was doing in 1982?
14:07
SPEAKER_06: Was it doing anything?
14:09
SPEAKER_06: You were how many years from being born?
14:13
SPEAKER_06: Nine years away.
14:17
SPEAKER_06: Breathing ox for the first time.
14:23
SPEAKER_06: Is that so funny to me?
14:34
SPEAKER_05: This is how you get to 10K downloads, ladies and gentlemen.
14:39
SPEAKER_05: Oh boy.
14:40
SPEAKER_06: Okay, I'm I'm literally trying to catch my breath.
14:45
SPEAKER_06: Tears are coming out of my face.
14:47
SPEAKER_06: I can't breathe.
14:49
SPEAKER_04: All right, all right, all right, all right, all right.
14:51
SPEAKER_05: What are we gonna do?
14:52
SPEAKER_05: How do we even move forward after that?
14:55
SPEAKER_04: We take a couple deep breaths.
14:56
SPEAKER_04: This is what I tell my kids.
14:57
SPEAKER_05: Cleansing breaths.
14:58
SPEAKER_04: Just watch out my kids.
15:00
SPEAKER_04: Look at me, look at me in your eyes.
15:02
SPEAKER_04: Take some deep breaths.
15:04
SPEAKER_04: Sniff the candle, blow it out.
15:08
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
15:09
SPEAKER_04: All right, all right, there we go.
15:12
SPEAKER_04: There you go.
15:13
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
15:13
SPEAKER_02: All right.
15:13
SPEAKER_02: I hope our listeners were able to take those deep breaths with those.
15:17
SPEAKER_02: Wonder how many seconds of just crazy air time that we just spent laughing and not being able to form uh words that you could actually understand.
15:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
15:30
SPEAKER_04: I can't wait to see the transcript.
15:33
SPEAKER_04: What on earth did they just yeah?
15:36
SPEAKER_02: Whoo! All right, so oh, that's so good.
15:39
SPEAKER_04: Now we're back.
15:40
SPEAKER_04: So yeah, we are 1982.
15:42
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
15:42
SPEAKER_04: You graduated high school.
15:44
SPEAKER_02: That's correct.
15:45
SPEAKER_04: But that had nothing to do with anything.
15:48
SPEAKER_04: That just reminded you of episode 82.
15:50
SPEAKER_04: Episode 82.
15:51
SPEAKER_04: I'm just saying.
15:52
SPEAKER_02: That was me skinny a little richer than those pictures pictures of 82 on my t-shirt.
15:59
SPEAKER_02: All right.
15:59
SPEAKER_02: So anyway, here's what episode 82 is all about.
16:02
SPEAKER_02: All right, so what we're gonna do is we're actually gonna go back to something I learned from a friend of mine who is a safety coordinator at a very large construction company that that manages projects all over the country.
16:17
SPEAKER_02: You might recall, sir, that we I've quoted this guy before in a previous episode.
16:23
SPEAKER_04: I was about to ask, is this the same uh three points of contact guy?
16:27
SPEAKER_04: The very one.
16:28
SPEAKER_04: Oh, sweet.
16:29
SPEAKER_04: The same thing.
16:30
SPEAKER_04: I don't remember exactly which episode it is, but we have episode 59.
16:34
SPEAKER_02: My man came prepared.
16:35
SPEAKER_02: Well, you know, I do I take a note or two.
16:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, just a few.
16:40
SPEAKER_02: But in episode 59, we talked about how this friend of mine, who is the safety coordinator, so in other words, he's responsible for hundreds of workers on this particular job site.
16:51
SPEAKER_02: Whether they work for his company or not, he's responsible for them because even subcontractors or electricians, plumbers, whatever, yeah, cheap metal people, they're coming to that job site and working for weeks and weeks and months and some years on end to work on this this particular project.
17:09
SPEAKER_02: And he's in charge of safety, and it is a tough job because you get that many humans together with heavy equipment and in dangerous situations.
17:19
SPEAKER_02: It's hard to not have some bad things happen.
17:23
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
17:23
SPEAKER_02: And so that's why this construction company and all construction companies that are worth their salt really invest in the safety team.
17:32
SPEAKER_04: Well, and I remember in that previous episode of Three Points of Contact, how you were explaining Man, there were some things that he was saying that they sound really basic.
17:42
SPEAKER_04: Correct.
17:43
SPEAKER_04: But unless otherwise followed, you descend into chaos on a job site.
17:48
SPEAKER_04: And so, yeah, that's that's good.
17:50
SPEAKER_02: That's exactly right.
17:51
SPEAKER_02: And and so this gentleman, uh, one time I was present while he was running one of his safety meetings with hundreds, it might have even been over a thousand uh workers under this big la large tent, and he's given his spiel, and he he sadly has to report that they had an accident the week prior.
18:13
SPEAKER_02: Thankfully, it wasn't too, too serious.
18:16
SPEAKER_02: Okay, there was no long sustained really bad injury, but there was one loss, uh uh one day of work was lost by a particular employee that because he had to go get checked out and x-rays and stuff like that.
18:31
SPEAKER_02: Thankfully, it didn't get out of hand and it wasn't a horrible scenario, but he he took the opportunity to explain to him what had happened.
18:42
SPEAKER_02: And here's I'm I'm gonna give you kind of the overview.
18:45
SPEAKER_02: Apparently, somewhere on this job site, which was massive, you know, like the town that I grew up in could probably have fit on this job site, right?
18:53
SPEAKER_02: So uh there was just to the side, uh just adjacent to a walking and driving path around the job site, there was an indentation, kind of a little dip, almost it's not quite a hole in the ground, but it was it was a significant little dip in the ground that might have been the circumference of a normal size dinner plate, you know, uh in this circular little indentation.
19:25
SPEAKER_02: And what they realized was well, we need to work on that.
19:28
SPEAKER_02: We need to we need to fill that hole, fix that so it doesn't become a problem.
19:33
SPEAKER_02: So what they did is they put a couple of cones around it with a little bit of caution tape so that nobody would walk over there until they got it taken care of.
19:42
SPEAKER_02: Now, because it was such a such not a big deal, it was a very minor little thing, and they had a ton of bigger concerns, you know, that were like priority to get fixed or whatever, is they never got around to fixing that little hole.
19:59
SPEAKER_02: Now, everybody as they were walking or driving their little the the the machinery, uh some of it wasn't little, but uh, you know, as they were going, everybody got accustomed to seeing that as a caution area.
20:13
SPEAKER_02: And so it was fine.
20:15
SPEAKER_02: It seemed like it was fine because nobody was really worrying about it.
20:18
SPEAKER_02: But what happened over time is that that that little that indentation widened a little bit, you know, with just rain or or whatever, you know, the elements, it got a little wider, and so the cones kind of fell over.
20:34
SPEAKER_02: And it so it was still, you could tell there was something going on there as you walked by, but it was never addressed fully.
20:42
SPEAKER_02: They didn't fix it, but still it wasn't the biggest deal in the world, and so it just got neglected, and so people are still walking and driving and doing their thing all during the day, and sure enough, something happened.
20:59
SPEAKER_02: Somebody was walking along, trips over, you know, hits that little intention and turns his ankle.
21:06
SPEAKER_02: So the worker turned his ankle.
21:08
SPEAKER_02: Thankfully, it was not uh sprained real bad or broken or anything like that.
21:13
SPEAKER_02: He's back to work the very next day, everything was fine.
21:17
SPEAKER_02: What my friend, who was running the safety meeting, as he described this whole scenario, which played out over literally months from the time they first put the cones around this thing, months later, finally people start ignoring it, and somebody walks into it and could have really damaged their ankle.
21:39
SPEAKER_02: Thankfully they didn't.
21:40
SPEAKER_02: He's talking about this and using it as an example of how easy it is to kind of get a little lackadaisical about some of this stuff.
21:51
SPEAKER_02: And he uses this phrase that has stuck with me since, and this has been like two years, two or three years since he said this, and I Was in this meeting, and he goes, Here's the bottom line, everybody.
22:04
SPEAKER_02: Here's the problem.
22:07
SPEAKER_02: We got too comfortable with the hazard.
22:13
SPEAKER_02: We got comfortable with the hazard.
22:17
SPEAKER_02: It was a hazard.
22:19
SPEAKER_02: All right.
22:19
SPEAKER_02: So on a scale or comparison, maybe not the biggest hazard in the world.
22:23
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
22:24
SPEAKER_02: But it was a hazard.
22:26
SPEAKER_02: They put cones around it.
22:28
SPEAKER_04: Caution tape.
22:30
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
22:31
SPEAKER_02: But over time, folks just got accustomed to it.
22:35
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, there's a little thing.
22:36
SPEAKER_02: Let's let's be a little careful.
22:38
SPEAKER_02: But but over time, everybody's mindset was just eh, whatever.
22:42
SPEAKER_02: And they got comfortable with that hazard.
22:46
SPEAKER_02: So much so to the point where now a guy was trying to walk right through it and turned his ankle.
22:53
SPEAKER_02: And I thought when I heard that phrase for the very first time, and I still think it, I asked myself a question, and I say, how many dangers exist in my life where I am just kind of comfortable with them?
23:09
SPEAKER_02: I've gotten accustomed to them.
23:12
SPEAKER_02: And so I'm not concerned about them anymore.
23:16
SPEAKER_02: I'm that I'm I'm okay with them being a part of my life, basically.
23:21
SPEAKER_02: And because like that, that work crew, I have become comfortable with a hazard.
23:29
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, how many of those kinds of hazard hazards might exist in my life?
23:36
SPEAKER_02: What do you think about that?
23:38
SPEAKER_02: I mean, because that's a pretty important that's a pretty big deal.
23:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
23:42
SPEAKER_02: You have any thoughts on that?
23:43
SPEAKER_04: Man, I think it's a great word of caution, obviously, for a job site, but even for our own life.
23:49
SPEAKER_04: I think when you talk when you think about a a a hazard in our life, maybe that just starts off as a tiny little, it's not even a hole, it's just a divot.
23:57
SPEAKER_06: Oh, right.
23:58
SPEAKER_04: That, man, I'm so quick to, yeah, I might throw up a cone or some caution tape or a sign that says stay away.
24:05
SPEAKER_04: But then I'll go, oh, well, I gotta deal with these other things going on in life.
24:10
SPEAKER_04: I've got bigger ticket items to worry about.
24:13
SPEAKER_04: There are larger, quote unquote, hazards at play that need attention.
24:19
SPEAKER_04: And maybe that's all true, but it doesn't change the fact that there is still a hazard.
24:26
SPEAKER_04: And that that idea of getting comfortable with the hazard is eerily true.
24:33
SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
24:34
SPEAKER_04: And I feel like if anybody is being honest with themselves as we hear this phrase, man, there's probably like we could just do a quick inventory of our own hearts and minds of man, I've probably gotten comfortable with a couple of hazards in my life.
24:51
SPEAKER_04: That started off as like a little, you know, a rock, a pebble, maybe it's a tiny little divot, and it's it's grown into a little bit bigger of a hole.
25:00
SPEAKER_04: That if left unchecked, that could be a big problem.
25:04
SPEAKER_04: That's good.
25:05
SPEAKER_02: That's good.
25:05
SPEAKER_02: You know, and it occurred to me as you were saying that is you know, hazards don't get smaller over time.
25:12
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they just don't fix themselves.
25:14
SPEAKER_02: No, that in fact, they don't even stay the same size.
25:17
unknown: Wow.
25:18
SPEAKER_02: They're not they're not stat uh you know neutral.
25:21
SPEAKER_04: Correct.
25:22
SPEAKER_02: They're going to expand.
25:23
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
25:24
SPEAKER_02: And so that I but I agree with you.
25:27
SPEAKER_02: Uh the way you said comfort.
25:28
SPEAKER_02: It freaks me out.
25:29
SPEAKER_02: That phrase actually kind of freaks me out.
25:31
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and that's even even in that illustration, the hazard grew into essentially the walking path.
25:38
SPEAKER_04: At least into the place where people who are walking are a lot more likely to step into it because it happened.
25:44
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
25:44
SPEAKER_04: Oh, that's a that's a really good point about that hazards don't stay stagnant because that's a lie that I think we we tell ourselves subconsciously.
25:54
SPEAKER_04: Is okay, I'm gonna put some caution tape, cone, it'll stay right here until I come back.
25:59
SPEAKER_04: Right.
26:00
SPEAKER_04: Maybe that's what we think.
26:01
SPEAKER_04: It's not gonna do anything.
26:03
SPEAKER_04: As long as I don't step in it, it's not gonna get any worse.
26:06
SPEAKER_04: Oh man.
26:07
SPEAKER_04: Man, is that just it's kind of like what we talked about just a couple of episodes ago.
26:10
SPEAKER_04: I forget which number it is, but when you talked about the vines, oh yeah, and how if left unchecked, man, we they just come through everything, you gotta attack it at root level, right?
26:20
SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
26:21
SPEAKER_04: And when we're talking about hazards, we need to address them quickly and comprehensively.
26:26
SPEAKER_02: No, no doubt, no doubt.
26:28
SPEAKER_02: And so I'm I'm just asking our listeners uh to go along on this journey with us this week because I've been since I've revisited that very memorable phrase that I heard uh several years ago, I've been kind of trying to deep dive on it a little bit in my own mind, in my own heart.
26:50
SPEAKER_02: And I say I wonder if it's complacency.
26:56
SPEAKER_02: There are some things that I think factor into me getting comfortable with the hazards.
27:01
SPEAKER_02: And the reason I want to name these and ask our listeners if they can if they can relate uh uh to it is is because I think this could be my prayer point.
27:11
SPEAKER_02: This could be my prayer and my mental focus point.
27:14
SPEAKER_02: So, in other words, if I've gotten just complacent, where I've uh I've just gotten to the point where I just don't care that much about that little thing.
27:27
SPEAKER_02: I'm sure it'll be fine.
27:28
SPEAKER_02: The complacency uh or the procrastination.
27:33
SPEAKER_02: Even if because I tend to be like that, where I will say, okay, I I will get to that.
27:39
SPEAKER_02: I really will.
27:41
SPEAKER_02: But I don't.
27:42
SPEAKER_02: Because I keep kicking it down the road, and then the tyranny of the urgent, something else comes up that's bigger or more, seems more urgent, all the while this thing, this smaller thing keeps expanding.
27:56
SPEAKER_02: So whether it's just complacency or procrastination or just a straight up blind spot, something maybe I don't even see.
28:05
SPEAKER_02: Uh I pray about that.
28:07
SPEAKER_02: But honestly, and this comes up, I think, in our conversations sometimes in our community with our our uh brothers in addiction recovery, is that what if we're actually toying with temptation and actually uh we're at at one point in our recovery journey we were like so averse to a certain behavior, and we just well, no way I'll ever go back to that.
28:35
SPEAKER_02: But what if I what if I I I lower my standards a little bit?
28:40
SPEAKER_02: And what if I got to the point where I'm like, well, you know, a little more tolerant of the thing that could be poisoned to my life, comfortable to the hazard.
28:50
SPEAKER_04: Because let's let's put real words to this.
28:54
SPEAKER_04: Come on.
28:54
SPEAKER_04: When we're talking about a hazard at a job site, obviously we're talking about a hole, we're talking about a pit, talking about something that's you know physically dangerous.
29:00
SPEAKER_04: When we're talking about a hazard in our spiritual life, I'm talking about sin.
29:05
SPEAKER_04: Come on, right, okay, and the and the verse that popped into my head while we were just talking about this is if I if I don't want to get comfortable with the temptation with that hazard to act out in a type of sin, whatever it might be, first John 1 9 gives us a playbook to how to address hazards.
29:24
SPEAKER_03: Indeed.
29:25
SPEAKER_04: And it is a lost art, hello, in the westernized culture of church that we live in, which is all about big lights, sound, music, and happy feelings.
29:35
SPEAKER_04: And I'm not dogging any of that.
29:37
SPEAKER_04: I'm just saying, 1 John 1.9 says, if we confess our sins, holy cow, confession is a lost art in the church today, big C church.
29:49
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, if we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us of sins.
29:56
SPEAKER_04: Okay, great.
29:57
SPEAKER_04: Here's the hazard work, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
30:05
SPEAKER_04: That's the hazard work.
30:06
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and so friends, I'm sitting here, I'm sitting here, and I know that we might have some listeners that are going, man, I got some hazards in my life that I've gotten comfortable with that temptation.
30:17
SPEAKER_04: I've gotten comfortable with the enemy having his foot in my back door.
30:21
SPEAKER_04: And can I just submit to you, friend?
30:24
SPEAKER_04: Find a trusted friend, find a trusted person, and let's start doing some first John 1 9 work to these hazards.
30:34
SPEAKER_02: Come on.
30:35
SPEAKER_02: I think that's I think that is the message.
30:38
SPEAKER_02: And so let's let's embrace it.
30:41
SPEAKER_02: Let's do this together.
30:42
SPEAKER_02: Uh, you know, you and I and and our our listeners, let's ask the hard questions and let's look in the hard places and and and get to that point where I I want to be uncomfortable.
30:56
SPEAKER_02: I want to be discomforted when I see hazards instead of making some sort of excuse or justification or procrastination or whatever.
31:08
SPEAKER_02: All of those things keep me from 1 John 1 9.
31:13
SPEAKER_02: All of those things will keep me from saying, No, here's what I do when I see a hazard.
31:18
SPEAKER_02: I confess it.
31:19
SPEAKER_02: Yes, and I know God will forgive me.
31:23
SPEAKER_02: And then we start dealing with it, filling in the you know, fixing the problem.
31:30
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
31:31
SPEAKER_02: Oh man, that's big.
31:32
SPEAKER_02: So thank you for for going with me there.
31:35
SPEAKER_02: Episode 82.
31:36
SPEAKER_02: What do you know, man?
31:38
SPEAKER_02: What do you know?
31:39
SPEAKER_02: That's good stuff.
31:40
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
31:41
SPEAKER_02: And so, as always, we're gonna go with a with a segment, and this is part two, because last week I shared these sneaky good lyrics or messages through music so that we can have positive thoughts about music and song and art and stuff.
32:00
SPEAKER_02: So it is your turn, sir.
32:03
SPEAKER_02: What you got for us?
32:04
SPEAKER_04: Well, I've got three, I've got three examples, okay?
32:07
SPEAKER_04: Boom.
32:08
SPEAKER_04: And um, the first one is more of a a whole track or a whole soundtrack.
32:14
SPEAKER_04: Ooh, okay.
32:15
SPEAKER_04: But I remember I remember watching Frozen 2 in the movie theaters.
32:22
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
32:23
SPEAKER_04: And I remember thinking to myself, in the movie theater, I was like, this is there's so many gospel messages in these songs.
32:32
SPEAKER_04: For real.
32:33
SPEAKER_04: In go back and watch you some frozen two with your sermons on the side hat on.
32:39
SPEAKER_04: Because there's the main one that I'm thinking this is Anna, right after she thinks that her sister Elsa has passed away and she's all alone and Olaf has you know gone into.
32:49
SPEAKER_02: He's gone to the summer.
32:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:50
SPEAKER_02: Didn't he go to the house?
32:51
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he disappeared into nothing because you know Elsa's magic is gone.
32:54
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
32:55
SPEAKER_04: And she's talking about when I don't know what to do, when the path is unclear, I'm gonna do the next right thing.
33:08
SPEAKER_04: That's that whole that's that whole purpose of that song.
33:11
SPEAKER_04: And I'm thinking, man, in our own life, man, how how often, I mean, hello scripture, you are a light into a lamp into my feet and a light into my path.
33:19
SPEAKER_04: My wife has a her very first CD that she ever like did way back in college.
33:23
SPEAKER_04: It was called Misty Pathway.
33:26
SPEAKER_02: She wrote a she wrote that song.
33:28
SPEAKER_04: You've told me about that song.
33:29
SPEAKER_04: Yes, and it was when she was on the teen advisor's spring retreat at the beach, and that this huge fog had come in and like just completely overtook the place.
33:39
SPEAKER_04: And she was having to walk back to the campsite, which was not, I don't know, 100 yards that way.
33:44
SPEAKER_04: It was not not maybe not 100 yards, 100 feet that way.
33:47
SPEAKER_04: And uh knew the path very well, couldn't see it at all.
33:53
SPEAKER_04: She could only see the next path in front of her, the next step in front of her.
34:00
SPEAKER_04: And she talks about how, hey, I'm I'm just gonna trust that I take this step out of faith, and then the next one comes into focus.
34:07
SPEAKER_02: Anyways, I just time out.
34:09
SPEAKER_02: We got uh so where can we where can our listeners hear this song?
34:14
SPEAKER_04: That Misty Pathway.
34:15
SPEAKER_02: I'm not talking about frozen.
34:16
SPEAKER_04: I know, Misty Pathway.
34:18
SPEAKER_02: Misty Pathway.
34:18
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we've got a whole sleeve of CDs at our house.
34:22
SPEAKER_02: So it's not uh it's not out there.
34:24
SPEAKER_04: No, that one that was on those discs.
34:26
SPEAKER_04: It's on the discs, baby.
34:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so people are just gonna have to call you.
34:31
SPEAKER_02: Here's Brad's number.
34:33
SPEAKER_02: 707.
34:34
SPEAKER_04: They're gonna have to reach out to Sermons on the side, and we will we will figure out a way to get them that song.
34:38
SPEAKER_04: Misty Pathway Pathway.
34:40
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
34:41
SPEAKER_04: Anyway, so that's number, so well, I didn't even mean Misty Pathway to be one, but uh Frozen 2.
34:46
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
34:46
SPEAKER_04: Okay, here's a I'm I'm going with with soundtracks, okay, because I'm a I love I love listening to soundtracks.
34:53
SPEAKER_03: Come on.
34:54
SPEAKER_04: The greatest showman, which by itself is almost a prodigal son story, but at the very end, when the when Hugh Jackman's character, you know, what's what's the main character's name?
35:06
SPEAKER_04: P.T.
35:07
SPEAKER_04: Barnum.
35:07
SPEAKER_04: P.T.
35:07
SPEAKER_04: Barnum, of course.
35:08
SPEAKER_04: How can I forget that?
35:10
SPEAKER_04: He has been blinded by the lights, camera, and he has he has turned his back on his family, on his friends, and he chose the wrong path.
35:19
SPEAKER_04: And and but he had this beautiful redemption arc, and they sing this song called From Now On.
35:28
SPEAKER_04: My eyes will not be blinded by the light.
35:32
SPEAKER_04: By the light.
35:38
SPEAKER_06: And we will come back home.
35:41
SPEAKER_06: Home again.
35:43
SPEAKER_06: And then time coming back home.
35:47
SPEAKER_02: Dude.
35:48
SPEAKER_02: Oh my goodness.
35:49
SPEAKER_02: All right.
35:49
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna dance.
35:51
SPEAKER_02: Come back.
35:52
SPEAKER_04: Okay, you you can stop dancing right now.
35:55
SPEAKER_04: Holy cow.
36:01
SPEAKER_04: Oh, dude.
36:03
SPEAKER_04: And then the last one, here's the one I'm gonna leave you with.
36:05
SPEAKER_04: Okay, all right.
36:06
SPEAKER_04: I I really I drank the uh the Hamilton Kool-Aid when it first came out.
36:12
SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
36:13
SPEAKER_04: It's a great, it's a it's it's great.
36:15
SPEAKER_04: It's fantastic.
36:16
SPEAKER_04: Good stuff.
36:16
SPEAKER_02: Good stuff.
36:17
SPEAKER_04: In the first act, there is a conversation.
36:21
SPEAKER_04: But if you know anything about Hamilton, it's a spoken word, it's a rap, it's a musical conversation.
36:26
SPEAKER_04: And it's happening between Alexander Hamilton and George Washington.
36:32
SPEAKER_04: Oh, and George Washington.
36:33
SPEAKER_04: And Alexander Hamilton is talking about how he he wants to go on the front line and fight in the revolution.
36:39
SPEAKER_04: He wants to go and he wants to do, and and he talks about I want, I'm ready to die for this country.
36:46
SPEAKER_04: And George Washington's response is you have visions and dreams of dying like a martyr.
36:53
SPEAKER_04: And he goes, Yes.
36:55
SPEAKER_04: He goes, son, dying is easy, living is harder.
37:01
SPEAKER_04: Woo! And dude, when I first heard that, I had to pause the show because I thought to myself, I have that mentality for Christ.
37:12
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
37:13
SPEAKER_04: And I'm and I'm curious to unpack this.
37:15
SPEAKER_04: And this is a little bit outside of a segment.
37:17
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
37:18
SPEAKER_04: But I, oh, dude, I'll die for Christ.
37:20
SPEAKER_04: I will lay down my life if it means following after Jesus.
37:25
SPEAKER_04: But will I take up my cross daily?
37:29
SPEAKER_04: Will I live for Jesus and follow him?
37:33
SPEAKER_04: Will every single daily decision that I have be following after Christ?
37:39
SPEAKER_04: Because dying is easy, young man.
37:42
SPEAKER_04: Living is harder.
37:45
SPEAKER_06: And I believe it is.
37:47
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
37:48
SPEAKER_04: I believe that living for Christ is hard.
37:52
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
37:53
SPEAKER_04: It's his burden is easy and his yoke is light.
37:57
SPEAKER_04: But it is hard.
37:58
SPEAKER_04: Can we talk about living in the world and not of it?
38:02
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
38:02
SPEAKER_02: We have there's there's so many hard decisions and choices that we would make to lay down our lives and take up his cross.
38:14
SPEAKER_04: So there you go.
38:15
SPEAKER_02: Brother Man.
38:15
SPEAKER_04: Sorry it was all soundtracks, but yeah, as you can peer into the mind of Brad, I that's kind of where I live.
38:22
SPEAKER_02: Well, I tell you what, I every time we get Brad in a uh in a music-related conversation, he'll blow us all away.
38:30
SPEAKER_02: All right, now that's a Hamilton reference, right?
38:32
SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's right.
38:34
SPEAKER_04: I just yeah, I never blow us.
38:37
SPEAKER_02: That's just some wonderful stuff.
38:39
SPEAKER_02: Thank you for bringing that.
38:41
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
38:41
SPEAKER_02: Thank you for for everybody listening along as we went down this road on on uh on Sermons on the Side, episode 82.
38:49
SPEAKER_02: Can't wait for next week.
38:51
SPEAKER_04: I know we've got 83, and we've got an awesome interview coming up here in just a couple of weeks.
38:54
SPEAKER_04: That's right.
38:55
SPEAKER_04: It's gonna be awesome.
38:56
SPEAKER_04: Thank you, Richard.
38:56
SPEAKER_04: Thank you guys for listening.
38:58
SPEAKER_04: Thank you all for liking and sharing and subscribing.
39:01
SPEAKER_04: It's gonna be awesome.
39:02
SPEAKER_04: We've got a lot of really cool things that are happening at the end of this year, so you want to make sure that you're tuned in and ready for that.
39:08
SPEAKER_04: And uh otherwise, we'll see you back here again next week for another episode.
39:13
SPEAKER_04: Servants of the Messiah.
39:29
SPEAKER_04: Okay, we're still in We're still in soundtrack mode.
39:33
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
39:33
SPEAKER_01: I'm not raise it to the four of us tonight.
39:38
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's good.
39:40
SPEAKER_02: What's the raise it to the four of us?
39:41
SPEAKER_02: Tomorrow the memorable.
39:43
SPEAKER_02: We could have said you know what we could have said.
39:47
SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
39:48
SPEAKER_02: I do, I do, I do, I do.
39:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we should have said, We're uh we're done with this episode, but we know you'll be back soon.
40:00
SPEAKER_04: You'll see you remember that you belong to me.
40:06
SPEAKER_04: Hey, I almost went with a Bruno Mars lyric.
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SPEAKER_04: I'm a dangerous man with my money in my pocket.
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SPEAKER_04: Keep up.
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SPEAKER_04: But that wasn't exactly a