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Scherzer's a Blue Jay, Dylan Cease trade rumors, M's sign back Polanco · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: He says things like that without giving any of the nuance,
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  Speaker 1: like why it doesn't exist yet?
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  Speaker 2: That genuinely pissed me off to a level. It blew
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  Speaker 2: my blew my mind.
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  Speaker 3: All right, everyone behaved, Just kidding. It's Friday, Ron Todd,
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  Speaker 3: bother krats, Trevor May powered up.
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  Speaker 2: We did it, Yeah, we did it.
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  Speaker 4: Where are you, sir?
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  Speaker 2: In the green void? Bro?
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  Speaker 1: I'm in my studio, my office space. Something moving behind me,
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  Speaker 1: but we don't. We don't have that today.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, with the green screen, he can be anywhere.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, ken be That's why I was asking. He might
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  Speaker 4: be in Japan or something.
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  Speaker 5: But he could be.
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  Speaker 6: He could be, he could be. That is correct.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, before we start and dive into some news, just
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  Speaker 3: a reminder to everyone, we've had some banger interviews this week.
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  Speaker 3: Talk to Tasker and talked to Tim Tim Anderson earlier
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  Speaker 3: this week, kind of coming out of the wood.
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  Speaker 4: I saw that one media. I wish I was on
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  Speaker 4: for it. Yeah, no, I know, man, it just didn't
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  Speaker 4: work out.
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  Speaker 7: But yeah, that's real.
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  Speaker 4: He's as real as they come. Man, he was he was.
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  Speaker 4: He was being real. He's intense and you know he's
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  Speaker 4: you know, not getting into detail. He was. He was
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  Speaker 4: letting you know everything about his scenario and his psyche.
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  Speaker 4: And he's been through some stuff, you know, on and
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  Speaker 4: off the field, and I've been a part of it.
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  Speaker 4: The one time with him and his his first year,
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  Speaker 4: his best friend passed away, and uh, he's he he didn't.
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  Speaker 4: It was hard for him coming, you know, after that,
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  Speaker 4: coming back playing baseball. Baseball was not in the forefront anymore.
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  Speaker 4: And you know that was the trick, the trickle effect,
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  Speaker 4: like there was a couple of things, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: he's a young he was young. He was young, and
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  Speaker 4: it was hard. It was hard for him not to
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  Speaker 4: dive deep. And we worked, we worked at it with him,
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  Speaker 4: and I, you know, hopefully I played a little bit
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  Speaker 4: of a part and his career as he moved forward.
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  Speaker 3: I liked that We're gonna have to have him back then,
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  Speaker 3: no doubt, Father for a little combo.
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  Speaker 6: I think he liked it.
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  Speaker 3: So anyway, listen to that, and then we'll try and
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  Speaker 3: bring him back when he's hitting three twenty mostly angels.
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  Speaker 3: I hope, I hope he bounced his back, come back
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  Speaker 3: player of the year. We'll see what happens. All right,
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  Speaker 3: Let's charge the damn Mount. We got news to hit
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  Speaker 3: two signings and sorry, guys, Trevor gets to go first.
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  Speaker 6: On both of these.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, oh one, it's a picture. Max Sureser fifteen and
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  Speaker 3: a half million dollars. You think he texted Berlander? Haha,
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  Speaker 3: I got five hundred k more than you, Trevor. But
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  Speaker 3: what do you think of the move?
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  Speaker 4: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: First of all, yes, I think that he one hundred
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  Speaker 1: percent did that because it's exactly why he got five
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  Speaker 1: hundred thousand more. And you know that he was out
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  Speaker 1: here out here citing that he you know, ever the statesman,
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  Speaker 1: Max Sure's or he's, you know.
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  Speaker 2: The leader of the subcommittee for the PA.
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  Speaker 1: So he's like, I have a job to do and
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  Speaker 1: that's get more money than justin Berlander. So I like it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the fact he's you know, it hasn't he
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  Speaker 1: hasn't thrown a ton of innings the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: So got to tip your cap for being savvy and
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  Speaker 1: going and getting an other year of that kind of
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  Speaker 1: a v And then I think that it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: a low risk for the for the you know, for
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  Speaker 1: the Blue Jays, they need they need pitching. You know
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  Speaker 1: who knows he can give you if he gives you
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty innings of Max sus Er, of quality,
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  Speaker 1: Max sures Or. I think they get their value there
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  Speaker 1: because they got a lot of You got a lot
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  Speaker 1: of guys you need to step up in order for
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  Speaker 1: them to be successful. So I think it was a
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  Speaker 1: good veteran pickup move for them.
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  Speaker 5: That's it, that's all I gotta do.
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  Speaker 6: Well, the video cammer's not on you. They don't see
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  Speaker 6: you a camera.
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  Speaker 3: You got to remember that there's humans that listen to you,
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  Speaker 3: many many flexing human.
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  Speaker 7: I'm flexing because that's what Max Scherz did. Getting is
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  Speaker 7: fifteen and a half. Again, I think this is I
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  Speaker 7: think this is undervalued. I think this is a value
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  Speaker 7: that is it's huge for the Blue Jays to get
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  Speaker 7: this pick up.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, people will be.
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  Speaker 7: Like, oh, yeah, this didn't age well when you know
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  Speaker 7: when he gets hurt later this year. You don't know
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  Speaker 7: that Max Sureser is not working out right now at
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  Speaker 7: this point to be like, man, I hope I get
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  Speaker 7: one hundred innings this year for this team. No, he's
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  Speaker 7: a future Hall of famer. He is going to bring
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  Speaker 7: more to that young the young guys on that pitching
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  Speaker 7: staff Bowden. I always forget how to say his name.
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  Speaker 7: No Bowden, Bowden, Francis is going to be concuse you
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  Speaker 7: a little bit Voden and Bowden anyway, just learning how
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  Speaker 7: to compete in the big leagues. And he's in the
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  Speaker 7: American League East. No better place to bring out a
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  Speaker 7: little extra fire in a dude. And if he wants
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  Speaker 7: to re sign and pitch, he's going to do well.
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  Speaker 7: So it's a big pickup, I think for the Jays.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I know you want me to say a
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  Speaker 4: lot of things, but if we can zoom in on
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  Speaker 4: my sloppy handwriting here when we get a chance. We
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  Speaker 4: had a problem yesterday and guess what it got solved? Right, Okay, Eric,
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  Speaker 4: I know you can't read that well Proablyum, Yeah enough,
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  Speaker 4: that's Spanish problem solved. And guess what, it didn't much conversation, Scottie,
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  Speaker 4: you and I talked yesterday. Eric. I don't know where
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  Speaker 4: he was, but at the end of the day things
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  Speaker 4: got solved.
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  Speaker 3: They talked him into everan al context in case they
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  Speaker 3: missed yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: Well yeah, well, I mean Todd father had a problem
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  Speaker 4: and the issue was nobody wants to go to Toronto
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  Speaker 4: and next thing you know, I went bb bb bang
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  Speaker 4: banged by the boom by the bang. Make sure is
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  Speaker 4: a sign boom. I'm not saying I had anything to
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  Speaker 4: do with it. I'm not saying I did.
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  Speaker 7: You know, you know, but you know people from Jersey
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  Speaker 7: have a reach to other countries. Of course, one of
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  Speaker 7: the countries that's really close is Canada. So I figured,
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  Speaker 7: if this stuff kind of gets done, yo, Todd, call
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  Speaker 7: up communication.
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  Speaker 4: I did I want? There was only there's only one
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  Speaker 4: phone booth in the world anymore, and it's it's actually
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  Speaker 4: right down the street in downtown Toms River. I had
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  Speaker 4: fifty cents. Boom, boom. It said you have one minute left.
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  Speaker 4: Put a nickel in to get one more extra minute. Bang.
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  Speaker 4: God saved a lot of money, I saved, he gained.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so then let's bring this to the next layer here,
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  Speaker 3: So Trevor, I'll let you answer too for us. One,
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  Speaker 3: do you think the Blue Jays have a shot at
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  Speaker 3: playoff contention assuming that this is it for their offseason?
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  Speaker 3: And two, now we can play this game with four people,
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  Speaker 3: since the five hundred.
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  Speaker 4: K is close enough.
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  Speaker 3: Justin Verlander, Alex Cobb, Charlie Morton, Max Schurzer, all one
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  Speaker 3: year contracts, all making fifteen except for Max is fifteen
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  Speaker 3: and a half because they pay the Blue Jay's tax
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  Speaker 3: for having to go through customs with the fam.
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  Speaker 6: What do you think.
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  Speaker 1: I would say, honestly, the only maybe change I would
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  Speaker 1: make Verlander and Schurzer could be tied. But I know
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  Speaker 1: Max Scherzer he signed second, so he's going to get more.
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  Speaker 1: It's just the way it works. Like I like these.
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  Speaker 1: I like all of these contracts. It's I mean, even
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  Speaker 1: with a fifteen million dollar AAV and I understand that's,
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  Speaker 1: you know, more than a lot of people want to
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  Speaker 1: spend for a forty year old pitcher. But I think
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  Speaker 1: the value you get in terms of the veteran presence
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  Speaker 1: is big and it's one year. So like the risks,
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  Speaker 1: they're just not that's a that's as little risk as
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  Speaker 1: you could possibly get for guys like this, especially future
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  Speaker 1: Hall of famers in Verlander and Insurser. So like, I
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  Speaker 1: love this. It's the way that it's the fact we're
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  Speaker 1: we're all worried right now, right that like the oldest
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  Speaker 1: guy in the league in ten year is going to
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  Speaker 1: be like thirty four, all right, So to see four
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  Speaker 1: guys all in around forty or forty get their contracts
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  Speaker 1: still in this game and see the values being paid for.
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  Speaker 2: That way is a positive side in my opinion.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, I need him to rank though, Oh oh you
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  Speaker 3: want to rank amount. I also need you to play
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  Speaker 3: GM and rank those four and how you think they're
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  Speaker 3: going to fare this season.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Verlander first. It's gonna get the most
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  Speaker 1: value out of him. I'll go Verlander, Morton, Sureser Cop.
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  Speaker 6: Nice, that's a solid list.
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  Speaker 7: Morton's going to have the most innings, yes, But I
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  Speaker 7: am ranking it Sureser Morton Verlander Cop. I think the
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  Speaker 7: change that I all in mechanics from Verlander after that
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  Speaker 7: lat injury like a year two years ago, two seasons ago,
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  Speaker 7: I just feel like it's kind of really building on him.
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  Speaker 7: And I'm taking a flyer that Suzer's not coming back
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  Speaker 7: from last year's last year's setback that he had. But
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  Speaker 7: I'm saying I'm saying it's Sureser Morton because Morton is
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  Speaker 7: just he's making thirty starts all the time, when early
• 9:25
  Speaker 7: in his career he ran the first base and blew
• 9:27
  Speaker 7: his hamstring out when he's at the Phillies. So to me,
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  Speaker 7: it's that's that's where it's at, with Cobb being a
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  Speaker 7: you know, a lower fourth.
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  Speaker 4: And me, I'm going Morton, I'm going, oh man, they've
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  Speaker 4: just they've just been injured. I'm going Morton, Cobb, Verlander.
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  Speaker 7: Sureser last yeah, argued against yourself.
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  Speaker 4: No, I had to write it down to remember who
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  Speaker 4: we were talking about. That's that's the worst part about yourself. No,
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  Speaker 4: this wasn't my order. I just remember Scott said it
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  Speaker 4: and I forgot the name said. So from seeing them
• 10:03
  Speaker 4: at the end, I'm not saying they're not good either.
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  Speaker 4: I mean Berdlander at the end couldn't couldn't pitch. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: let's just call a spade a spathe. He was struggling.
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  Speaker 4: I mean he's got injuries that you know that are
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  Speaker 4: gonna linger in my opinion, So that's why that's the
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  Speaker 4: only reason why I put ball though. Both those could
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  Speaker 4: be a solid third together in my opinion. And then
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  Speaker 4: I just love Charlie Morton where he started and how
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  Speaker 4: remember remember Charlie Morton in the beginning, I mean we
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  Speaker 4: used to tip I don't know, but we used to
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  Speaker 4: tee off on him. He was ninety two ninety three
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  Speaker 4: with that that nasty curve. Oh it's stuck and it
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  Speaker 4: was flat. Listen, it was. It's weird to say a
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  Speaker 4: flat sinker, but it was. It moved this way, but
• 10:45
  Speaker 4: it was ninety two. Then all of a sudden, he's
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  Speaker 4: like ninety seven. I'm like, where did this guy come from?
• 10:49
  Speaker 7: He got sticky in Houston and they were like, stop
• 10:52
  Speaker 7: doing that. We're just gonna go here and this right
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  Speaker 7: off of it.
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  Speaker 4: Let it naturally move on its own. I got it.
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  Speaker 5: He just I was.
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  Speaker 7: He got traded from the Braves over to the Pirates,
• 11:02
  Speaker 7: came into our locker room and pitched the in triple A,
• 11:05
  Speaker 7: not in triple A, pitched the They were like, hey,
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  Speaker 7: you're gonna start the second game with double header.
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  Speaker 5: I was like why.
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  Speaker 7: They're like one of the guys, one of the guys
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  Speaker 7: that just got traded, Charlie Morton is gonna pitch and
• 11:15
  Speaker 7: we want you to catch him because he'll be in
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  Speaker 7: the big league soon. And I'm like, oh, great, Charlie Morton,
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  Speaker 7: this dude. And then Pirates just never they just never
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  Speaker 7: solidified what he was.
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  Speaker 5: He's figured it out.
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  Speaker 3: And Travor the Swy love this show the way that
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  Speaker 3: Eric just drops that he got sticky in Houston. Like
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  Speaker 3: that's the kind of baseball talk I need to hear.
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  Speaker 3: But all right, last thing here on the J's and
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  Speaker 3: then we're gonna talk to Ken Rosenthal next segment. We'll
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  Speaker 3: get to the Jorge Polanco news later to John Hayman
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: said the Blue Jays missed out on Won Soto, Rookie Sasaki,
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  Speaker 3: Corbyn Burns, and Max Freed, but with Andre Semenez, Anthony Santander,
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  Speaker 3: Jeff Hoffman and now Max Scherzer, their team is much
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  Speaker 3: improved solid a offseason. If they can sign Bladdy Junior,
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  Speaker 3: it's an A plus. Go last round here around the room. However,
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  Speaker 3: do you agree with that grading system? Miss out on
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  Speaker 3: a lot of these big, big names, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: for me, I'll I'll douse I quick.
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna go B right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would go B B minus. I think there
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  Speaker 1: are there's several better teams that have done a better job,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that that matters. Like you can only
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  Speaker 1: reserve your a's for somebody who can't give everyone in a A.
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  Speaker 1: I would say they at least they're in on everybody
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  Speaker 1: that's a positive. I'll say, like they're they're reaching out
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  Speaker 1: they're trying I mean a forever, I guess. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'll give them like a B possibly B minus because
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  Speaker 1: I think they are better than they were, which is
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  Speaker 1: gives it over the D there. But but that's about it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there's a huge, like a huge difference
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  Speaker 1: maker in that. But I do think they have some
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  Speaker 1: pieces with Laddie and with the Chet who have such
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  Speaker 1: high ceilings that if they play up to the potential
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  Speaker 1: then you had Burrios and you know Bassett, they like,
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  Speaker 1: there's there's team ceilings high. So I think these got
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  Speaker 1: these additions will help them make it more likely that
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  Speaker 1: they hit their ceiling this year and make it up.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna stick with an egg because I still think
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  Speaker 4: they're better than the Orioles.
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  Speaker 5: Wow b because Trevor used all my words.
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  Speaker 4: I got them number three and over the oils.
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  Speaker 6: That's a hot take. Oh that's got a late night
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  Speaker 6: vibe to it.
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  Speaker 3: Ask manuse my bad I like it. May I ask anything?
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  Speaker 3: See what Trevor thinks, may ask anything?
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  Speaker 2: Question mark?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I love keep them coming as many as you
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  Speaker 1: want to want to do you guys, it's the best.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 5: My show is called huge crats.
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  Speaker 6: We're gonna stick to ask may anything.
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  Speaker 3: May I begin with the Mariners signing joy Hee Polanco
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  Speaker 3: back to the ball club a little under eight million
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  Speaker 3: bucks on a one year contract. Yes, we had seen
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  Speaker 3: the Astros pretty heavily involved. He ends up selecting Seattle.
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  Speaker 3: This one's pretty interesting. And as ken Rosenthal put the
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  Speaker 3: Myriers required him from the Twins last January. He had
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  Speaker 3: been a really solid player for years. I think it
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  Speaker 3: was one twenty ops plus in the prior three seasons
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  Speaker 3: before that combined right twenty percent above league average. It's
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  Speaker 3: a really good player. And then he absolutely tanked this
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: year in his strikeout rates ticked up. Trevor, you're in
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: the great state of Washington, so you can start us
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  Speaker 3: off with why a guy who struggled like that decides,
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  Speaker 3: you know what, I'm going to go back and try
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  Speaker 3: and prove that it's not the ballpark. I can overtake
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  Speaker 3: the ballpark. Your thoughts on this. I know he had
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: knee surgery to in October, but do you think it's just, hey,
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: he got the best offer here, so he's going back,
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: or a player actually wants to try and hit in
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  Speaker 3: Seattle when it was like his worst season.
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  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I think he got the best offer there. Most likely,
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  Speaker 1: it's not the most exciting offseason for them. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of anyone with a pulse looking and be like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: is this team, you know making move? I mean they
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  Speaker 1: fired their their manager and then didn't do anything. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how you know that that really computees.
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  Speaker 1: That doesn't really make sense to me. It feels like
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  Speaker 1: hold pat for me. But I was one of I
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: was a huge fan of the Polanka. You know, pick
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  Speaker 1: up last year. He's one of my favorite teammates have
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  Speaker 1: ever had. He's awesome. Played with him for seven years
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  Speaker 1: and you mentioned it with the one twenty ops plus
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  Speaker 1: up until that time. That was the last three years.
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  Speaker 1: His whole career is a one fifteen. So that's a
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  Speaker 1: good hitter. That's a well above average hitter, especially for
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  Speaker 1: a second baseman. But we know he's had lower extremity
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  Speaker 1: issues with the ankle for a couple of years before that,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: with the last couple of years of the twins missing time,
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: and then you know, we said there's something around going
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: on with his knee. If you got some nagging stuff
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: and it's affecting your swing and affecting your ability to
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: run and go side to side to field the ball.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: It's hard to play this game with with something that
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: just doesn't feel great.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: So that's always a positive when I hear something got
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: fixed or they addressed a problem that they were trying
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: to work through for a long time, uh, in the
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: best way possible, and and then got some time off
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: to get back. So you know, I still have high hopes.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: I think his skill set, natural talent is still there.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: He's a thirty one year old, He's not you know,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: he's not super on the back end. He's still at
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: the back end of that prime or should be.
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: So.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: The his his ability to come back and produce, and
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: he doesn't need to produce any in any super crazy way.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: He just gotta He's got to be a quality bat
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: to back up a couple of those guys they really
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: rely on in Cayl Ray and Juli Order gets so heavily.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: So I like, I like that he was able to
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: get a contract and get a big league deal and
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: and get an opportunity to go back, and it like
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: I like to hear that he's healthy. So he's he's
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: one of those guys that when he's going well, you're
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: really really happy to have him on your team. I
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: don't think Mariners fans have experienced that, and that maybe
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: something that uh they he wants to prove as well,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: So there's probably a little bit of that that might
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: have taken the deal, you know, over the hump. But
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, they just
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: probably offered him the most money.
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: I would agree with you.
• 17:12
  Speaker 7: Have you like, have you ever been in a situation
• 17:15
  Speaker 7: where you're pitching and you're like, man, just nothing about
• 17:17
  Speaker 7: this place goes right for me. Because if you look
• 17:20
  Speaker 7: at his career, like if there was the knee injuries,
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: you sit there, you're like, I want to do everything
• 17:26
  Speaker 7: I can to not sign back there, Like do you
• 17:29
  Speaker 7: feel like that could have been going on in his mind?
• 17:32
  Speaker 7: And now here we are two weeks before pitchers and
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: catchers not even two weeks twelve days before pictures and
• 17:37
  Speaker 7: catchers report, and he didn't have a job. So he's like,
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: all right, whatever.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: It's also like that situation, I'm gonna go back into
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: that situation or not have a job. If those are
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: the two edges options, you're gonna you're gonna deal with it,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: especially when you're like, you know, what. I feel more
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: healthy now, my knees not hurting me. You know, it's
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: not gonna be the same situation that said Marinis. Fans
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: were not kind to Hora Blanco. No one was very
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: excited to see him walk up to the play. And
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: you know, we've all been through this type of stuff
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: where people like I get this guy off the mounta
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: or get this guy the field. I believe I want
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: to see somebody else. So maybe there's a little chip.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I know him, he's a competitor man, and he he knows,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: he knows that he's he's better than he played last year.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: So but at the end of the day, if if
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: you have a down year and there's not very many
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: big league deals out there, but there's one that's going
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: to pay you almost eight million dollars, it doesn't you
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: can put me on the moon.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: I go play on the moon.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're taking the eight mill Okay, So then let's
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: get into the ballpark factor here. Obviously the pitching is
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: outstanding in Seattle, but we had cued this segment up
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: the other day.
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: We actually talked about it a little bit.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: But we want to get Trevor's take because he's up
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: in the region there, and he is a pitcher. We
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: want to get his perspective. Here's tay Oscar Hernandez on
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: why t Mobile Park has been so difficult and according
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: to stat Cast now the most extreme park in baseball.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: It's not Colorado for offense, it's Seattle for run pern
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Here's Tao from yesterday.
• 19:02
  Speaker 8: You step in the botox box, you trying to see
• 19:06
  Speaker 8: the picture straight right, and for me, it was like
• 19:10
  Speaker 8: I couldn't figure that out. I always seeing myself crooked.
• 19:16
  Speaker 8: It's either the picture was like like behind me or
• 19:21
  Speaker 8: on the other side of the mound. It was never
• 19:25
  Speaker 8: straight like the other stadium. Never feel the same. And
• 19:31
  Speaker 8: when I play there, my numbers show show it. I
• 19:36
  Speaker 8: could have hit like four heads in the day before
• 19:38
  Speaker 8: on the road, and the next day I get Seattle
• 19:42
  Speaker 8: and it just either I hit the ball hard, don't
• 19:45
  Speaker 8: get hits, or I just strike up.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard that from him.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: He's a big one who said that. Other guys have
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: said in the past. Think CJ.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Crohne made a point where he's yeah, there's something funky.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: It's like there's something with your death perception. There's just
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: a lot going on behind the picture. Them moving on
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: the on the rubber, you know, creates these weird angles,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: but it is an angled it's an angled batter's eye
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: behind them. That when the sun comes through, especially in
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: day games, if the roof's open, it's even worse.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: You get this like.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Line of sun back there, and you know, not that
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: you can't see the ball per se, but it's it
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: just creates more weird angles to make you feel like
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: you're not like lined up correctly or turned weird. So
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: we all know how baseball works. If you feel you're
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: like you're off by a centimeter, it feels like you've
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: never done that thing before. It's so little things like
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: this are important, and lefties don't complain about it near
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: as much as righty's, so there's something to it.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: I believe that the numbers back this up.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: That like the pitchers are also much better at home
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: than they are on the road. And there's another guy
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: that if we ever get him on the show, we
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: should ask him about it because he's got a crazy
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: split with strikeouts, Dylan Moore, who is about a thirty
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: percent strike for his career, which in my opinion is.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: A little bit high.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Later like at home, it's like forty percent for like
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: his career, it goes way up. And he's a right
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: handed hitter, and he's just something. There's something about it
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: that people can't see. It's almost to the point where
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, maybe we need to like get some
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: sort of you know, matte whack material that absorbs lights
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: so there's never a glare, or like just change it
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: if you want your guys to hit, make it flush
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: with the rubber. It's just there's a lot going on.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: And then you add like the marine layer and the
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: roof being closed or open, and the where the gaps
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: are on the roof and how the air comes in.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: All that stuff is weird in every park with the
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: roof that is retractable. So all those things together make
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: it just a place that's a nightmare for a lot
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: of guys, and they just you just feel uncomfortable.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: You just feel uncomfortable in the box.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: So it's to the point now where I'm like, hey, Mariners,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: maybe you should just you know, go with the Royals
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: formula here. Just get a bunch of dudes who can
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: run and steelbases and you know, make make mayhem because
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: it's impossible to throw anyone out anyways. Now, so we
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: might as well be doing that and just give up
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: on the homers and the doubles, just singles and steel bases.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Let's say you win games, win three to two. That's
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: what you're doing anyways.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: That's that is so true.
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: Dylan Moore did come on and talk about it for
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: like two seconds, but you know, like any other still
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: still active player, you're like, I don't want to put
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: that out there, don't want to make people think I
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: have an excuse. My question to you is you see
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: this pitching staff, and I praise this pitching staff for
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: exactly what they are, watching them and hearing guys that
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: faith face, excuse me, they think they are nasty?
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: Are they a little inflated?
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: Is this pitching staff because of now all these numbers
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: that come out. You sit there and you go, maybe
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: this starting rotation isn't the best in baseball. Maybe this
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: park does help them a lot.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I think it inches them, you know, into the kind
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: of it's kind of unanimously known as the best, you
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: know rotation right now, Like like if you ask anyone
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: around the league, the marig is gonna come to the
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: top mind quickly. I think that maybe the park makes
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: takes him to that point where it's not really a
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: conversation anymore. But they're definitely just talent wise, it is.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: It is pretty relentless. It's just like power arm after
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: power arm after power arm. There's no let off. They're
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: all young. They all can strike guys out when they
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: need to, and they got a great pitching development program
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: there too, So they're they're these guys are as good,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: like hitting their potential quickly, and they're early. They're coming
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: up young, like I think, for for example, George Kirby,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: we haven't even seen remotely close to as good as
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: George Kirby can be when that guy figures out, when
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: he gets his veteran pitching mind fully under him, you know,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: after he's not twenty six any more, when he's like
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: third or twenty eight, twenty seven, maybe he's gonna be
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: throwing that mid two every single year. He's just got
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff in that kind of command. So
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: if you go look at each picture individually.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Like, well, that guy's pretty good. Oh, that guy's pretty good,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: and then it kind of comes here.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, they're they're they're not fun to watch if
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: you had to pay him for five straight games. There's
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: at no point you can be like, Okay, I can
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: take my foot off the gas here as a hitter,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I just think, you know how it is, like you
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: there's certain guys you go and you're like when you're
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: preparing for him, when you're when your team has five
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: of them, it's just you're the best rotation. So I
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: think that, yeah, it maybe they're pushed for it a
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: little bit by the by the boost of the park,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: but they're still really good on the road, So I
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: think the top to bottom they're they're just as good
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: or better than anybody.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm all for that contact speed dudes, And I
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: know you're gonna get the pushback from people saying you
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: need slug.
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: You they have it, like, yeah, enough guys do that.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: They don't have enough speed though, No, they don't have enough.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Blanco is not that guy, not that guy?
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah yeah right. Team batting average? Wait what batting average?
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: That's yeah, oh yeah, you don't say that.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Hey, I'm not old school, we know that, but also
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: like that average actually should matter for the Mariners.
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: Well that was quick. Let me check my fake watch.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: What eight minutes ago we asked for some sub help
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: seventy five k subs.
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: Thank you, Thank everyone. Sometimes you just to remind them,
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: come on, yeah, let's get eighty What else you got?
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: Some of them know we have a TikTok and Instagram,
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: an Apple podcast, a Spotify.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: You want to check them all out? Can I get
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: a little more? Can I get a little more on
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: a Friday?
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: Anyway?
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: I appreciate you, but let me get into one or
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: two more questions here, because we love the people and
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: we answer their questions. Kick Dirt Baseball said, what do
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: you see Seattle doing after the whoor hey Polanco signing?
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Probably not a ton, but yeah, no, Jerry's gonna.
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I've wanted them to trade Louis Castillo, my guest Trevor
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: and and not any knock on Luise, just to see
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: if they can get themselves a young bat like I
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: wanted to Louise Castillo, Kobe Mayo or even a mount
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Castle something like that with a young, cheap Orioles bat.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Going back, But my guess is I think front offices
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: are so damn cheap, so obsessed with trying to get
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: the max value, and oh, you got to give me
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: money back on this. You got to give me money
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: back on that. I just think it prevents a lot
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: of those deals from happening these days.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, risk adversity, everyone's risk adverse.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: And those two teams you just mentioned, the Orioles and Elias,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: just can't pull the trigger on any trades.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: He just can't. Like he's talked about.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: It publicly, he knows these guys personally, which, actually, to
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: be honest, it was refreshing to hear that for once
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: finally to say, I like these guys. It's tough to
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: get rid of them. But like the Orioles aren't. Are
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: kind of doing a lot of the same Mariner stuff.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Like they're in a window too that I don't think
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: they're executing on near well enough. It's just kind of
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: just trying to tighten up this something here and there,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: maybe tighten.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Up the profits a little bit.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Uh, It's it's just it just doesn't feel very fun
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: as as an owner that neither one of these teams
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: really want to want to rock the boat too much,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: and they kind of just want to stick with what
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: they know. And for the Mariners it's it's pitching, and
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: for the Orioles it's having left handed blind prospects.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. I was going to say, also,
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: I mean that that was the funny answer. The nerdier
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: answer is like, there those Baseball America rankings, and trust me,
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: I'm all over them. I post a show with BA.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: But the Oriels got to be near the top there.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: We got to keep that standing. Guys got to be
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: in the top ten.
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: It's like holding all the chips in a poker tournament.
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: If you just get bled out, you never win.
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: Right, Sometimes you got to pull alga.
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: Don't let don't let these prospects careers bleed out because
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: each year they get one year older.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: The Chase Field roof had a problem come on. They
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: either had to open and close it before fans got
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: there because of a cable issue. You don't want that
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: balling on people. Yes, we do not want people dying
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: at ballparks.
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: So we're good. It's fully functioning.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Good though you don't hear about it, which is fine.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: They they did what they had to do without people
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: blowing Oh look it is no the baseball stadium. Well,
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: I know, let's still it wasn't It wasn't the biggest deal.
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: Do you remember what they used to do? Do you
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: remember playing in Arizona Trevor, do you remember playing in
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: Arizona and what they did when it worked, like how
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: they did it.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: It was no, I was just I was always just
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: praying it was closed all the time you were.
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: You were probably not even out in the field, but
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: they would they would announce, oh national anthem, and then
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: they would be like they'd start the music and it was.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: Like, dude, dude, do.
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they're opening it and you're like, this is great.
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: And the fans loved it. The fans, the local fans
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: there because at that time there was like you know,
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: fifteen to twenty fans that were at those games.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you had that old lady up top with the flags.
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah she was, I mean she was number one fans.
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: She was a number one diamonback.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: You're the best Todd.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny.
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: And then the people go in and she'd watch it
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: and then the picture will go back out. You're the
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: best Tod. But any way, No, they used to do
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: a big ceremony about it, and you used to have
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: it open during batting practice because they had real grass,
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: so they're trying to burn it, I mean, help it grow.
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: And it was so freaking hot. I was like, what
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: are we doing with it with the dome with the
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: roof here? But they made a big deal out of it,
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: so I'm glad they can get it back.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Do you remember the Diamondbacks mascot there? They always play
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: rock paper scissors? Yeah, yeah, you always play rock paper scissors.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: You were, you were, you were still eating.
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: I was, I was definitely definite.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: I can. I can never beat him, never, Bax, I
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: could never be. He come on back and wouldn't he
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: would speak beat you every time.
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: Every time there's three choices, and he only has three fingers,
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: so he got me.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: Scissors. It's all scissors and your thumb, no chance.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but every time you put scissors, I would use paper,
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: and every time it is paper.
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: How paper scissors were?
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: Don't set off rock paper Shoot.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna go settle downstairs with these shoes
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: with the step brothers. So we'll be back in twenty
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: seconds to go over some rumors.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because it gets rid of I'm sorry, Scott. I
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: do have a straight cat in my backyard name memorial.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: That's perfect memorial. It's a perfect start to end the week.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: That means you didn't tell you the black and White
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: cat memorial Yeah, we dive deeper into some things that
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: you're interested in, some things that you might not be interested.
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: You have to deal with.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Trevor love it.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Tell you more about this cat.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: His cat's name is Dylan Cees. So a couple of
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: notes from John Hammond's Notes column in the New York Post.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: He said, the Mets are discussing Dylan Cees trade conversations
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: that didn't make sense. Dylan Cee's trade with the Padres.
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: And the Padres would listen on anyone who is not
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Tatis or Machado, and they may prefer the Mets list
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: of prospects over.
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: The Cups list of prospects. We talked about this the
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: beginning of the offseason.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Trevor and I had a hard time understanding why they
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: would trade him. I still have that, but I guess
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: it's becoming more of a reality. So I think we
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: can't cover this enough. Dylan Cees finished in fourth place
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: for cy Young voting in the National League last year.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: He is an ace. He is a number one starter
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: entering what I believe is a contract year. This could
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: be yes, it is. This could be a massive, massive
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: pickup that could shift the way a division plays. Out
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: or even a freaking postseason. So your thoughts on all
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: of this, And I mean, if you're a team that
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: thinks are going to win a World Series this year,
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: you should be all over trying to acquire him.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Agree, I agree wholeheartedly.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: He's a guy.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: He would be a major prize. I would say even
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: beyond I was huge about everyone. Everyone needed to be
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: in on Crochet to start the year or start the offseason.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Red Sox ended up getting him. Cease is one of
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: these guys that you need to go, even just for
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: a year, Go get.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Him Orioles, like Orioles, Orioles.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: So I if you're not reaching out and seeing what
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: they want, you're you're not trying hard enough. And if
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: it's the Mets now now, no no shade thrown. But hey, man,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: if the Mets get him now, that is an a
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: plus offseason.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's what they had Cease. That's a big, big,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: big deal.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: So yeah, anyone, anyone's a better team with Dylan Cees obviously, Uh,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: but if you can add him to a group of
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: guys where you already have a pretty solid core and
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: he's like the the final piece, which he kind of
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: was for the Padres when they got him, he kind
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: of he's kind of that role now.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: And if they can go get him, I mean, that's
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: that's massive. And it's when it comes to prospects. There's
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: a lot of teams that can can out prospect trade
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: the Mets. So if you're letting him go to the
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Mets at this point, there's no excuses for the teams
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: that have the prospect capital go get a guy like that.
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: John Haymond just texted, he said, stop throwing shade at me, Trevor.
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: But who gets who is the better? Let's say Dylan
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: Ceas goes somewhere else. Compare him to the Garrett Crochet trade.
• 33:23
  Speaker 7: Who do you think is a better pitcher? Just just
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: so fans can start clamoring, including Padres fans. He's not
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: an ace, he's number one. That's that's a whole nother discussion.
• 33:33
  Speaker 7: But Padres fans should want this guy. But who's better Garrett?
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I think ceiling wise, that's that's stuff I think. But
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: when both of these guys are are dialed in on
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: any given day, it's it's just no one's getting a
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Hites has actually done that. I would give the edge
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: just just to Ceaze just because of the amount of
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: any he's thrown in years and how he's got a
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: little bit more experience under his belt.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Crochet is still, you know, only one year removed from
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: being a reliever and hurt all the time, and he's
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: still on through like one hundred and what was one
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: hundred and thirty eight innings last year, So he's still
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: like in that innings limit area, which gives me pause.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: But I think ceiling wise, if both are dialed in,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: like Garrett Crochet has got hair schooble type stuff, like
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: he could be a two hundred and fifty ten inning
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: cy young guy. I think he's has that opportunity, that
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: ability to But Crochet might be a little bit more,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: could be more consistent. I think he gets a little
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: consistent in the middle of the year, and that's kind
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: of what hurts him. He's got some clunkers, but you know,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: if he cleans that up, he's just as good as
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: anybody in the league. So that's a that's a good question,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: but I'll give it. I'll give the edge to Cease
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: just because of the experience.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: He's a massive bargain. I know you're gonna have to
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: probably pay a lot in prospects, but he's making thirteen
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: point seventy five million dollars twenty twenty five.
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: Okay, look at all.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: The players we just talked about at the top of
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: the show. We all have they're all obviously some of
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: them legends and have great credentials. But like there some
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: of those guys you know, might not pitch or might
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: not pitch much, or their back end guys, right like
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Charlie Morton's becoming more of a four or five starter.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: If you're a good team, that's that's fine, that's okay,
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: But those guys are getting fifteen. This is Dylan Ceese
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: at thirteen point seventy five. He's a free agent right now.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: He's he's close to Corbyn Burns money, I think close.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: And also, I mean you could make the case, I
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: mean a Freed, you could make the case. Depends on
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: each person's situation. Burns specifically one at Arizona got some
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: opt out all that kind of stuff involved. Freed was
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: in the low two hundreds. Dylan Cease is that kind
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: of pitchers. Okay, so look at the price that you
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: get for him. This was what I complained about last year.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: Todd Father for the Wan Soto market. I know it
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: costs a lot to go get Wan Soto, but I'm like,
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: this could win you a World Series this year. It's
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: one year and he was what about thirty million dollars
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: one year of a top three hitter in baseball? This
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: is the one time or yeah, you can't necessarily give
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: that guy the seven hundred plus million or in this case,
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: the two hundred million in the offseason, but you can
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: get that player for one season.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: And how are you beating the Dodgers? Like people keep
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: forgetting they are. This is the best team ever put together.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: I mean pretty much, if you want the truth. Steve
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: Cohen is not afraid now they have to get more.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: They're a good team. I don't care what they're do
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: in their division. They can win their division. But they're
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: still not beating the Dodgers. So to find a way
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: to get rid of some prospects. Prospects, I hate the
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: word prospect because they're not I don't know, they're minor
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: league ballplayers. I want guys that are in the big leagues.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: I want big league caliber guys until they get to
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: the big leagues. Then I could give them a different name.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: All right, your prospect great, whoop do you do? Get
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: rid of them? Get somebody who's established, who's a top
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: four guy, like you said every year to fight against
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: now the vampire in the West.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: And I also look this up because I was pretty
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: sure it was the case. I mean, insiders who know
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: what they're talking about have mentioned this goes back to
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: last year. The Orioles loving cease and they pursued him
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: last year but obviously lost out to the Padres, who
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: ended up acquiring him from the White Sox. I could
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: not agree more Drubber. The Orioles are a very, very
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: massive a short of being a World Series winning team.
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: Are they a playoff team? Probably? Are they a world
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: Series winning team? No? They do not have guys? Obviously
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: they have some, but I am not comfortable with that Roch.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: I've always start with winning one playoff game. We start there.
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: That's a great start. Yes, Why great start?
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: Why Why would they push in right now?
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: Why would the Orioles push in?
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: And they lost Corbin Burns?
• 37:36
  Speaker 7: Should it should show them that? Hey, it really helped
• 37:39
  Speaker 7: us last year we kind of had we had some injuries,
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: Bradish went down, we still had Burns to anchor this
• 37:45
  Speaker 7: except if they're going to do it to me, redo
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: the mistake that they made this offseason.
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: Sign him.
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: You have a whole year of him. You get to
• 37:55
  Speaker 7: show him out Boston. It is to play with all
• 37:57
  Speaker 7: these dudes in Baltimore. They you trade for him, him,
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: and then you sign him, and then you're like, whoa,
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: we just traded Kobe Mayo and whoever you want to
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: say from the system for this dude that's going to
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: anchor our rotation for the next seven years because we
• 38:13
  Speaker 7: extended him or we signed him in free agency.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: This might be a good time to bring up how
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: the Orioles will not miss on any players because of money, right,
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: that was the quote, they won't miss out on any
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: players because of money. I just wanted to make sure
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: we spent some time on this trap because it does
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: feel more and more like Dylan Ceese is going to
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: get traded. And the three examples we brought up are perfect.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: The Cubs are a fringe playoff team. This could help
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: the Cubs get in the playoffs or win a division.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: The Mets are should be a playoff team. This could
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: help them slay the Dragon and beat the Dodgers. The
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Orioles are a playoff team. This could help them actually
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: win a playoff game and do some damage in the postseason.
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: That's how big I feel.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: That's hard.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm curious to see what happens here.
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: Now.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: The other side of the spectrum is whoa, the Padres
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: are going to lose. That's a big boy, and they
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: were a win away from, in my mind, a world series, Trevor,
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: because I think if they beat the Dodgers, they're beating
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: the Yanks. I think they were a better team. Feel
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: pretty good about that.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: Would you world Series last year?
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: I don't remember. I don't remember.
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: Breakfast, so that was.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Two years ago, two years That's why you're on the
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Padres trade right now. Well, because they're losing a ton
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: of players recently, Trevor. They jerks and Profar was pretty
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: damn good last year for San Diego. He gone, Dylan
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Sees might get traded out on Kim obviously was hurt
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: down the stretch, but he's been a big part of
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: the ball.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I really liked what they put together.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Let's also queue up this little this little thing from
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: the owner. There was a really good show called May
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: day the other day that that talked about him. So
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: let's see what uh the Daily Show host had to
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: say about it.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Rubenstein told Yahoo Financier in the world economic for him,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I suspect we'll probably have something closer with the NFL
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: have NBA have, but there's no guarantee of that. Why
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: do you think that, David. I think David thinks that
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: because David's used to getting what David wants. I think
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: I think that, like he says things like that without
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: giving any of the nuance, like why it doesn't exist yet,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: and he just thinks that, like if he just wishes
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: hard enough, it will But no, it won't. It won't
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: just happen because you want it. And that genuinely pissed
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: me off to a level it blew blew my mind.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: He's like, man, it would be really nice to have
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: this super advantageous to the owner's ownership group system. I
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: really wish we had it. No, no sh but I
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: really hope you understand why you don't have it. I
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: know you've only around for a year and you you
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: lost the division at the in the air and then
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: sign nobody, So maybe maybe maybe baseball isn't actually the
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: reason you own a team. Now, maybe maybe it's for
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: other reasons.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: We don't share in cap businesses in life?
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: Do we.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: Do we?
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: My god? Yeah?
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: So that was And also you didn't see at the beginning.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: It was in reference to him making some very blatant,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: just like blanket statements about a salary cap.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Man, I really hope we have a salary cap like
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: other sports do.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: I like it very much. Had tones like I don't
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: understand the other ones do it?
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Why don't we?
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: I'm like, maybe you shouldn't own a team until you
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: know the answer that question, because you don't own it
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: because you own because you because you control all your
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: players for twice as long as all the other sports.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: That's why it's that simple. And you're a prime example
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: of having an entire team full of guys who've been
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: there for two years and you're going to control them
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: for the next four or five.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: And you won't trade any your prospects.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: So like, that's what you're doing, So you should know
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: that that's why you don't have a salary cap.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: And then he said, I I think we're gonna get
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: it soon. Why why do you think that you have
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: to be given it? Well, you're not just gonna take it,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: you have to be given it.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: So uh yeah, it just it screamed lack of understanding,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: which is not great a great look in my opinion,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: especially you know, they had the Angelo's things there and
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: you know people were not happy with them and they're
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: glad they were gone.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: But are we gonna is this exciting?
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: Now?
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: We like to have this now? Like I just it
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: really really frustrated me a lot. And I don't like
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: to I don't like to hear about salary caps flippantly
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: thrown around like like there's some sort of they're fair
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: in some some way, shape or form to anybody.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: But the people home teams.
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: Mike drop and it's it's the cure.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: It's the cure to everything, right, because as long as
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: we have that, then you know, we'll just have the
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Chiefs in their Super Bowl every year, you know, bla
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: lebron and the the most.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Parody of any sport.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Yes, by far, completely, Yes, payroll in the NBA is
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: much more tied to you success there and they have
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: a cap, so we're rooting for that just because a
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: few teams do not represent that's yeah, yeah, that's really working.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: That's really working. I need four over unders. Okay, the
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Tigers bet MGM futures eighty three and a half wins.
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: I mean, Todd Father is making a fair.
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: I think that's an easy over, man. I think it's
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: an easy over. I really like this team, especially how
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: they ended last year. I don't know, I just I
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: just like what they're doing over there, and with AJ
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: being the manager Hinch, I mean, it's it's a solid
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: ball club. I mean, maybe I'm biased because when I
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: saw him playing against Houston, they beat Houston. Somebody finally
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: beat Houston. But no, I really like where they're going
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: and a couple of pickups they got.
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: I don't think it's an easy over. No, you're just
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: division is tough.
• 44:02
  Speaker 7: But coming from a guy that chose them to win
• 44:04
  Speaker 7: the division last year, I didn't see him getting to
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: the playoffs the way they did. I'm taking I'm taking
• 44:13
  Speaker 7: the over because I like a J. Hinch and that
• 44:15
  Speaker 7: is it. I'm talking like an eighty. I'm in the
• 44:16
  Speaker 7: eighty three to eighty five range, So I'm taking the over.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: Okay, you think that division is that hard, I don't
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: see it.
• 44:22
  Speaker 7: I think that division had three playoff teams in it. Yeah,
• 44:26
  Speaker 7: they had everybody, but the Yankees were the ones left
• 44:28
  Speaker 7: at the end.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: No, no, I don't. I don't see it this year.
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: And the Royals got better, so that's got to be tough.
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: The Guardians, I would say that.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: I would say that the.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: Royal steps back on wins. Maybe the Guardians my team.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking an Trevor, Yeah, let's get your thoughts. I'm
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: going over here. I got them signing Bregman and going
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: over on the Wins if they sign him.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: What about you, Trevor, I'm a cratzy a little bit too.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Eighty five feels really good to me, A safe number,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: but yeah, it's I think I think it's over.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: I think that the Twins are going to be, you know,
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: a strong.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: And it's going to come down to the Royals and
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: the Guardians and the Tigers in that division. So I
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: think that's a I think that's a pretty conservative gas
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: eighty five. But they have absolute potential. I mean, they
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: got the raining saw young, and they got a young
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: crew of a position players that could continue even get
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: even better than were last year. That and then the
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: electric arms to the bullpen. So I mean that's it.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: That's a winning team right there. I mean, barring obviously
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: starting pitching injuries. They can't afford a lot of starting
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: pitching injuries. That's the one thing that they need to avoid.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: I need a Flawherty maybe also Jackson Job should have.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: Now you're going, I need this. I need that. It's
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: either yes or no right now.
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: I said yeah.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: But then but then you said unless they get bragmant.
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: You put that they get bragmant. I feel better about
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: it right now. I'm sneaking over. Go check it out.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: A little basketball offer, because that's what's actually playing real
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: games right now. Each Friday throughout the season, you get
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: to pick a player you think's going to score first
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: in the game. If it's not your player, but he
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: scores the second fie goal of the game, you still
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: get your stake back in cash. And you only get
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: there with the sportsbook Born in Vegas, that is bet
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: mg N.
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: A gambling problem or concern called when a hundred gambler.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: Let's sizzle hal winter time. Maybe a mystery team Alex Bregman,
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: John Hayman said, has a separate six year offer on
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: the table, not that you still want it with an
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: opt out after the first year from a team that
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: may not be high on list. Go all about that
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: last part though, What does that mean not be high
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: on his list?
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: Probably the Reds. Again, the Reds are not.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Into the Pirates guys.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: Because Trevor, you know, some of the data people have
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: have been likeman is not going to work out if
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: he's in Detroit, that's not the place for him. Although
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: some of those same people also were all up and
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: against Juan Soto hitting the amount of homers that he
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: did last year, and he figured it out. I know,
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: Bregman's a different hitter right and has the pull pop
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: and had Houston, but I think he could still hit
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: in Detroit.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: I think he's just a good bat to ball hitter. Anyway,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: here's a good player. He's gonna figure it out. He's
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: gonna make adjustments.
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Is he gonna be as good as the he was
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: in the Astros in some ways? No, he doesn't have
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: the Crawford boxes anymore, Okay, but he adjusted how he
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: played because he had those, and I think he's good
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: enough to make adjustments the other.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Way as well. So yeah, maybe the homers aren't gonna
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: be there, but.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: He's a you know, gold glove third baseman who doesn't
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: want that, especially with how they're trying to figure out
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: what to do with Cole Keith and if they're gonna
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: have Torkosen at first, if they're gona play cold Keith
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: there like, like the corner thing is a little bit
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: up in the air for pretty much every team. But
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: then most likely so he fits well and then returning
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: to Hinch, you know, like they got that going to
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: that connection. So I mean, just make him better makes
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: a lot of sense.
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: They can do it.
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: Where pro you think if you had to take a guess,
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: what do you think?
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, a little touchy, I'll just wear most insiders.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you're right, it's gotta be true.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: But also when just so, I mean, there's plenty of
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: information that comes from teams when you learn about players
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: and signing and all that.
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: There's often info coming from reps.
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: But yeah, he's yeah, that's not.
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: It could be. It could be Toronto.
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: Look at you.
• 48:32
  Speaker 7: The only reason I would agree with you is because
• 48:34
  Speaker 7: of the last part of that, The very last part said.
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: Not high on his list, not high on his He
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: doesn't want to go.
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: It's no shade.
• 48:41
  Speaker 7: It's no shade against Toronto. It's not like maybe he
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: just doesn't think or any team that it is.
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: That that team is that good?
• 48:50
  Speaker 7: Yea, Like now they just got Max Scherzer. When did
• 48:53
  Speaker 7: when did he say? Was that not high on their list?
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 48:56
  Speaker 7: It's like it's like the whole Aeronaudo to the Astros.
• 48:59
  Speaker 7: He's like not now, like I don't want to get
• 49:02
  Speaker 7: traded there. Now that wasn't a top It wasn't.
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: I don't know why he's crazy.
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: But he's crazy.
• 49:08
  Speaker 7: That's a whole other topic. But not high on his list? Well,
• 49:14
  Speaker 7: they got Santandre. Let's check back with Bragman. Oh, they
• 49:17
  Speaker 7: got Surezer. Let's check back with bre Oh oh, maybe
• 49:20
  Speaker 7: he kind of wants to. Maybe that kind of brings
• 49:24
  Speaker 7: Laddie back because I'm gonna play with Bragman for five
• 49:26
  Speaker 7: years after this year if it's a six year deal,
• 49:28
  Speaker 7: and that's a team that can do it. If it's
• 49:30
  Speaker 7: a true statement, which I believe it is, because why
• 49:33
  Speaker 7: would anybody put something false out there, not say Hayman
• 49:36
  Speaker 7: would Maybe somebody else gave it to him and that's false.
• 49:38
  Speaker 7: But they got money, they got cash. They can do
• 49:42
  Speaker 7: this and it would make them, It would bump them
• 49:45
  Speaker 7: big time. It would be a big time bump for
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: any team that gets them, but definitely the.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: Chase, yes, exactly, that's my my last word here is
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: not high on the list. It's either because you don't
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: want to go to that destination for competitiveness, or don't
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: want to be in that city, or you're not a
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: fan of, say the ballpark, and you are going to
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: plan to opt out after year one, so you want
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: to go to a place where you're gonna absolutely smash.
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: So those were my two.
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: It's getting late, though, it's getting late. You gotta figure
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: it out.
• 50:12
  Speaker 7: All I can think is Trevor said the Pirates six years,
• 50:15
  Speaker 7: twelve billion, and he slapped his hand with deferral.
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: Be right back.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we can run it if you got it. Let's
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: show Trevor's quick clip about in.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Baseball Edition twenty twenty five. Let's get it out. I
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: black on only one side of your face. Another out
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: for me. Intentional walks, Just get rid of them. You
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: got to pitch to everybody in hitters wearing one batting glove.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Bring it back, Madison, Bomb Gardner, Hunter Pence, I need
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: more out slamming your forearms together after you hit home run.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: I understand this is Aaron Judge's thing, but I feel
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: bad for every single guy that has to do it
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: to Aaron Judge.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: That guy could kill you if he wanted to.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: We know that Cody Bellinger did this a little too
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: hard in the World Series. Once dealt with the shoulder
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: thing for a while. So uh, they just take it easy, guys.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: In post game jersey swaps Baseball, Come on, swap those
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: jerseys have some fun out relievers conditioning pointless? Stop running relievers.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: You do enough. You pitch every day. Play catch, that's
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: your conditioning. Why are you running? Nobody cares in You've
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: heard a bark at the park. Let's get him out
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: at the park. Guys, where are my cat people at?
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Bring your cats to the park. Don't let them lose, though,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: because you'll never find them again. I'm starting to realize
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: what the issue is here. However, I want to see
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: everyone raising their cats literally like Simba.
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: Jersey swap too. I love that I do.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: That's an east while I stay bye. Yeah, that is
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: an easy one. Junior an arrow on Monday. By the way, cookies, cookies,
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: that's a nice, nice