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Behind the Mic - Our Journey to Good Enough Together · Getting to Good Enough

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  Hey,
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  there.
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  Welcome
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  to
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  getting
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  to
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  Good
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  Enough.
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  I'm
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  Shannon
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  Wilkinson.
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  And
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  I'm
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  Jeanine
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  Adams.
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  We're
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  here
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  for
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  practical
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  and
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  fun
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  conversations
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  about
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  living
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  with
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  more
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  ease
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  and
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  way
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  less
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  stress.
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  Yep.
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  We're
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  all
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  about
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  embracing
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  progress
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  over
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  perfection.
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  So
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  grab
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  a
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  tasty
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  beverage
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  and
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  let's
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  get
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  started.
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  Hey,
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  Deneen.
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  Hey,
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  Shannon.
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  How
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  you
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  doing?
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  I'm
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  pretty
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  good.
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  How
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  are
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  you?
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  I'm
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  great.
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  I'm
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  happy
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  to.
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  To
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  be
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  here.
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  And
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  as
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  much
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  as
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  I
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  resisted
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  doing
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  this
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  on
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  video,
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  it's
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  delightful
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  to
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  see
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  your
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  face
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  while
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  I'm
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  talking
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  to
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  you.
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  It
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  is.
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  It
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  makes
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  it
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  more
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  personal,
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  I
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  guess.
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  Yeah,
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  yeah,
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  yeah.
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  You
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  were
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  thinking
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  it.
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  Maybe
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  it
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  did
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  something
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  different,
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  but.
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  Well,
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  it.
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  No,
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  it
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  felt
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  personal
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  before.
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  So
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  I
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  was
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  trying
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  to
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  figure
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  out.
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  A
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  little
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  bit
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  more,
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  though,
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  like.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah,
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  I
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  guess.
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  After
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  we
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  recorded
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  last
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  week's
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  episode,
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  we
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  realized
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  that
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  for
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  our
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  new
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  listeners
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  and
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  maybe
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  to
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  refresh
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  our
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  old
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  listeners,
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  our
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  existing
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  listeners,
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  that
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  we
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  hadn't
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  really
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  introduced
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  ourselves
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  again.
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  And
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  it's
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  been
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  a
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  while.
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  Right.
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  We
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  used
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  to
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  say
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  in
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  the
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  intro
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  that
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  you're
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  a
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  life
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  coach
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  who
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  is
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  a
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  recovering
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  perfectionist
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  who's
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  getting
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  better
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  at
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  good
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  enough,
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  and
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  then
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  I'm
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  a
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  certified
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  professional
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  organizer
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  who
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  is
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  naturally
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  good
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  at
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  good
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  enough.
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  But
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  we
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  stopped
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  saying
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  that
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  so
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  somebody
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  would
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  have
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  no
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  idea.
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  I
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  could
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  be
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  a
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  chemical
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  engineer.
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  For
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  all
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  anybody
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  knows.
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  You
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  could
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  be,
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  however,
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  I
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  am
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  not.
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  No.
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  No.
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  And
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  we
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  thought
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  it
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  would
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  be
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  fun
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  to
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  introduce
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  ourselves
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  and.
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  And
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  share
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  about
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  how
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  different
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  we
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  are,
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  I
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  guess,
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  in
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  many
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  respects.
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  Yeah.
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  And
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  lots.
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  There's
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  lots
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  of
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  similarities,
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  too.
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  I
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  think
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  the
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  foundationally.
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  Right.
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  And
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  I
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  also
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  think
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  how
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  we
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  met
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  is
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  interesting.
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  Yeah.
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  And
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  we
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  have
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  a
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  meet
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  cute.
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  Don't
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  we
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  have
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  a
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  meet
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  cute
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  story?
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  We
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  do
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  have
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  a
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  meet
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  cute.
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  Why
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  don't
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  you
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  share
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  it?
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  You
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  always
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  tell
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  it
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  better
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  than
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  I
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  do,
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  but
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  I'll
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  start.
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  We
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  met
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  in
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  2000
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  online,
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  so
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  we
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  didn't.
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  Hadn't
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  met
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  yet
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  in
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  person.
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  Anna.
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  Listserv,
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  I
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  believe.
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  Was
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  it
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  a
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  listserv?
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  Yeah,
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  yeah,
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  yeah.
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  And
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  for
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  people
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  whose
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  dogs
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  had
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  the
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  same
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  unusual,
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  rare
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  disease.
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  Relatively
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  rare
• 2:48
  disease,
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  which
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  was
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  Addison's
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  disease.
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  Right,
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  right,
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  right.
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  Yeah.
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  Pass
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  it
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  to
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  you.
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  Yeah.
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  So
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  we
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  both
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  had
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  dogs
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  with
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  Addison's
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  disease.
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  I
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  had
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  a
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  Great
• 3:03
  Dane
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  Booker,
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  which
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  you
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  may
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  or
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  may
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  not
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  hear
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  throughout
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  our
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  episodes.
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  And
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  you
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  had
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  a
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  poodle,
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  Kramer,
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  A
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  beautiful
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  standard
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  black
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  poodle.
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  Black
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  standard
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  poodle.
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  And
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  we
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  sort
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  of
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  connected
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  on
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  the
• 3:25
  listserv
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  through
• 3:27
  the
• 3:27
  discussions
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  that
• 3:28
  everyone
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  was
• 3:29
  having
• 3:29
  and
• 3:32
  started,
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  I
• 3:33
  guessing,
• 3:34
  emailing
• 3:35
  at
• 3:35
  that
• 3:35
  time.
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  Right.
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  Directly
• 3:38
  to
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  each
• 3:39
  other.
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  I'm
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  trying
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  to
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  remember,
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  like,
• 3:40
  what
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  was
• 3:41
  the
• 3:41
  world
• 3:41
  like
• 3:42
  before
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  texting
• 3:44
  and
• 3:45
  texting
• 3:45
  and.
• 3:46
  And
• 3:47
  DMS
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  and
• 3:49
  social
• 3:49
  media.
• 3:49
  Yeah,
• 3:51
  right.
• 3:51
  Yeah.
• 3:52
  So
• 3:52
  we.
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  Yeah,
• 3:53
  we
• 3:54
  just
• 3:54
  started.
• 3:54
  We
• 3:54
  connected.
• 3:55
  We
• 3:55
  had
• 3:55
  sort
• 3:55
  of
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  the
• 3:57
  same
• 3:57
  sensibilities
• 3:58
  about
• 3:58
  holistic
• 3:59
  health
• 3:59
  care,
• 3:59
  veterinary
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  care
• 4:00
  and
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  so
• 4:01
  forth.
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  And
• 4:01
  so
• 4:01
  we
• 4:02
  would
• 4:02
  talk
• 4:02
  in
• 4:03
  offline,
• 4:03
  as
• 4:03
  they
• 4:04
  say,
• 4:05
  until
• 4:05
  we
• 4:06
  actually
• 4:06
  got
• 4:06
  to
• 4:06
  meet
• 4:06
  in
• 4:07
  person
• 4:07
  only
• 4:07
  a
• 4:08
  year
• 4:08
  later.
• 4:09
  Right.
• 4:10
  And
• 4:11
  we
• 4:11
  were
• 4:12
  going
• 4:12
  to
• 4:12
  meet
• 4:12
  in
• 4:12
  person
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  because
• 4:14
  there
• 4:14
  was
• 4:15
  a
• 4:15
  conference
• 4:16
  that
• 4:16
  we
• 4:16
  both
• 4:16
  wanted
• 4:17
  to
• 4:17
  go
• 4:17
  to
• 4:17
  that
• 4:18
  was
• 4:18
  about
• 4:19
  dog
• 4:19
  health,
• 4:20
  animal
• 4:20
  health
• 4:21
  in
• 4:21
  Chicago.
• 4:23
  And
• 4:23
  you
• 4:24
  said,
• 4:24
  why
• 4:24
  don't
• 4:25
  you
• 4:25
  fly
• 4:25
  to
• 4:25
  St.
• 4:25
  Louis
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  and
• 4:26
  then
• 4:26
  from
• 4:27
  Portland.
• 4:28
  From
• 4:28
  Portland
• 4:29
  and
• 4:29
  we'll
• 4:30
  drive
• 4:30
  to
• 4:30
  Chicago,
• 4:31
  go
• 4:32
  to
• 4:32
  the
• 4:32
  conference,
• 4:33
  come
• 4:33
  back
• 4:34
  to
• 4:34
  St.
• 4:34
  Louis,
• 4:34
  and
• 4:35
  then
• 4:35
  you
• 4:35
  can
• 4:35
  fly
• 4:36
  home
• 4:36
  the
• 4:36
  next
• 4:37
  day.
• 4:38
  Great
• 4:39
  idea.
• 4:40
  Yeah.
• 4:41
  Got
• 4:41
  some
• 4:41
  good
• 4:41
  togetherness
• 4:42
  in
• 4:42
  there,
• 4:42
  but
• 4:42
  not
• 4:42
  too
• 4:43
  much
• 4:43
  because,
• 4:43
  you
• 4:43
  know.
• 4:44
  Conference.
• 4:45
  Yeah.
• 4:46
  So.
• 4:46
  Yeah,
• 4:47
  so
• 4:48
  I
• 4:48
  thought
• 4:48
  that
• 4:48
  would
• 4:48
  be
• 4:48
  really
• 4:48
  fun.
• 4:49
  I
• 4:51
  booked
• 4:51
  my
• 4:51
  ticket
• 4:53
  and
• 4:55
  as
• 4:55
  soon
• 4:55
  as
• 4:56
  I
• 4:57
  pressed
• 4:58
  by,
• 4:59
  I
• 5:00
  got
• 5:00
  an
• 5:00
  email
• 5:01
  that
• 5:01
  said
• 5:01
  the
• 5:02
  conference
• 5:02
  was
• 5:02
  canceled.
• 5:09
  And
• 5:09
  this
• 5:09
  was
• 5:10
  really
• 5:10
  like
• 5:10
  before
• 5:11
  Skype
• 5:11
  or
• 5:12
  anything,
• 5:12
  so
• 5:12
  we
• 5:13
  not
• 5:14
  even
• 5:14
  really
• 5:14
  seeing
• 5:15
  each
• 5:15
  other
• 5:16
  as
• 5:16
  much
• 5:16
  as
• 5:16
  we're
• 5:16
  seeing
• 5:16
  each
• 5:17
  other
• 5:17
  right
• 5:17
  now.
• 5:18
  Right.
• 5:19
  And
• 5:19
  you
• 5:20
  said,
• 5:21
  hey,
• 5:22
  if
• 5:22
  it's
• 5:22
  not
• 5:22
  too
• 5:23
  weird.
• 5:23
  Oh,
• 5:23
  and
• 5:24
  by
• 5:24
  the
• 5:24
  way,
• 5:24
  it
• 5:24
  was
• 5:24
  like
• 5:24
  a
• 5:25
  four
• 5:25
  day
• 5:25
  conference,
• 5:25
  right?
• 5:26
  Yeah.
• 5:27
  And
• 5:27
  you
• 5:27
  built
• 5:28
  in
• 5:28
  a
• 5:28
  day
• 5:28
  or
• 5:28
  two
• 5:28
  on
• 5:29
  either
• 5:29
  side.
• 5:30
  Yeah.
• 5:30
  Like
• 5:31
  fly
• 5:31
  in
• 5:32
  the
• 5:32
  next
• 5:33
  day.
• 5:33
  We
• 5:33
  would
• 5:33
  drive,
• 5:34
  then
• 5:34
  it
• 5:34
  would
• 5:34
  be
• 5:35
  like
• 5:35
  four
• 5:35
  day
• 5:35
  conference
• 5:36
  and
• 5:36
  then
• 5:37
  we'd
• 5:37
  drive
• 5:37
  back
• 5:38
  home
• 5:38
  and
• 5:38
  then
• 5:38
  I
• 5:38
  would
• 5:39
  fly
• 5:39
  home.
• 5:39
  So
• 5:39
  it
• 5:39
  was
• 5:39
  like
• 5:39
  a
• 5:40
  week
• 5:41
  that
• 5:41
  I
• 5:41
  was
• 5:41
  going
• 5:41
  to
• 5:42
  be
• 5:42
  there.
• 5:42
  And
• 5:42
  you're
• 5:43
  like,
• 5:43
  if
• 5:43
  it's
• 5:43
  not
• 5:44
  too
• 5:44
  weird,
• 5:45
  why
• 5:45
  don't
• 5:45
  you
• 5:45
  come?
• 5:45
  Anyway,
• 5:46
  I
• 5:47
  was
• 5:47
  like,
• 5:47
  okay,
• 5:48
  okay.
• 5:49
  Right.
• 5:50
  I
• 5:50
  was
• 5:51
  so
• 5:51
  disappointed
• 5:51
  that
• 5:51
  I
• 5:52
  wasn't
• 5:52
  going
• 5:52
  to
• 5:52
  get
• 5:52
  to
• 5:52
  meet
• 5:52
  you.
• 5:53
  So
• 5:53
  I
• 5:54
  was
• 5:54
  delighted
• 5:55
  that
• 5:55
  you
• 5:55
  were
• 5:55
  okay
• 5:56
  with
• 5:56
  coming.
• 5:56
  Anyway,
• 5:57
  so
• 5:57
  we
• 5:57
  had
• 5:57
  a
• 5:58
  solid
• 5:58
  week
• 5:58
  together.
• 6:00
  Yeah.
• 6:01
  So
• 6:02
  we
• 6:02
  thought
• 6:02
  that
• 6:02
  would
• 6:02
  be
• 6:03
  really
• 6:03
  great.
• 6:04
  Except
• 6:04
  that
• 6:05
  I
• 6:06
  was
• 6:07
  scheduled
• 6:07
  to
• 6:07
  fly
• 6:08
  on
• 6:08
  September
• 6:09
  12,
• 6:10
  2001.
• 6:12
  Right.
• 6:12
  I
• 6:13
  actually
• 6:13
  forgot
• 6:13
  about
• 6:14
  that
• 6:14
  part
• 6:14
  of
• 6:14
  the
• 6:14
  story.
• 6:15
  Well,
• 6:15
  did
• 6:15
  you
• 6:16
  not?
• 6:17
  Not
• 6:17
  permanently,
• 6:17
  but
• 6:18
  just
• 6:18
  in
• 6:18
  the
• 6:18
  retelling
• 6:19
  of
• 6:19
  it.
• 6:19
  Yeah,
• 6:19
  yeah,
• 6:20
  yeah,
• 6:20
  yeah.
• 6:21
  So
• 6:22
  was
• 6:22
  your
• 6:22
  flight
• 6:22
  canceled?
• 6:25
  Yes,
• 6:26
  everybody
• 6:26
  got
• 6:27
  flights.
• 6:27
  It
• 6:27
  was
• 6:28
  grounded.
• 6:30
  And
• 6:30
  then
• 6:30
  I
• 6:30
  don't
• 6:32
  remember
• 6:33
  when
• 6:33
  they
• 6:34
  lifted
• 6:37
  the
• 6:37
  grounding
• 6:38
  of
• 6:38
  all
• 6:38
  planes
• 6:39
  and
• 6:39
  they
• 6:39
  started
• 6:39
  flying,
• 6:40
  but
• 6:40
  I
• 6:40
  was
• 6:41
  on
• 6:41
  one
• 6:41
  of
• 6:41
  the
• 6:41
  first
• 6:42
  flights.
• 6:42
  Yeah,
• 6:43
  I
• 6:43
  think
• 6:43
  it
• 6:43
  was
• 6:44
  the
• 6:44
  11th
• 6:45
  was
• 6:45
  a
• 6:45
  Tuesday.
• 6:45
  And
• 6:45
  you
• 6:45
  came
• 6:46
  in
• 6:46
  on
• 6:46
  Saturday
• 6:46
  is
• 6:47
  my
• 6:47
  recollection.
• 6:48
  And
• 6:48
  I
• 6:48
  picked
• 6:48
  you
• 6:48
  up
• 6:49
  at
• 6:49
  the
• 6:49
  airport.
• 6:49
  I
• 6:49
  went
• 6:49
  in
• 6:50
  to
• 6:50
  meet
• 6:50
  you
• 6:50
  at
• 6:51
  security
• 6:52
  and
• 6:52
  there
• 6:52
  was
• 6:52
  nobody
• 6:53
  in
• 6:53
  that
• 6:53
  airport.
• 6:54
  I
• 6:54
  mean,
• 6:54
  there
• 6:54
  were
• 6:54
  like
• 6:55
  just
• 6:55
  A
• 6:55
  handful
• 6:55
  of
• 6:56
  brave
• 6:56
  souls.
• 6:57
  Yeah.
• 6:57
  And
• 6:58
  there
• 6:58
  was
• 6:59
  pretty
• 6:59
  much
• 6:59
  no
• 7:00
  one
• 7:00
  on
• 7:00
  the
• 7:00
  flight,
• 7:01
  as
• 7:01
  I
• 7:01
  recall.
• 7:02
  Yeah.
• 7:02
  Amazing.
• 7:04
  Yeah.
• 7:04
  So
• 7:05
  I
• 7:07
  went
• 7:08
  to
• 7:08
  St.
• 7:09
  Louis.
• 7:09
  We
• 7:10
  met,
• 7:11
  like,
• 7:13
  it
• 7:13
  was
• 7:13
  like
• 7:13
  we'd
• 7:13
  always
• 7:14
  known
• 7:14
  each
• 7:14
  other.
• 7:15
  Yeah.
• 7:15
  I
• 7:15
  remember
• 7:16
  driving.
• 7:16
  You
• 7:16
  driving
• 7:17
  home
• 7:17
  from
• 7:17
  the
• 7:17
  airport
• 7:18
  and
• 7:18
  start,
• 7:18
  you
• 7:19
  know,
• 7:19
  just
• 7:19
  catching
• 7:19
  up.
• 7:19
  I'm
• 7:20
  not
• 7:20
  catching
• 7:20
  up.
• 7:21
  Asking
• 7:22
  questions
• 7:22
  and
• 7:23
  learning
• 7:23
  that,
• 7:23
  for
• 7:24
  example,
• 7:24
  you
• 7:24
  had
• 7:24
  gone
• 7:24
  to
• 7:25
  a
• 7:25
  women's
• 7:25
  college.
• 7:25
  I
• 7:26
  had
• 7:26
  gone
• 7:26
  to
• 7:26
  a
• 7:26
  women's
• 7:27
  college.
• 7:27
  I
• 7:27
  mean.
• 7:27
  Right?
• 7:28
  That's
• 7:29
  amazing.
• 7:30
  And
• 7:31
  here's
• 7:31
  all
• 7:31
  these
• 7:31
  things.
• 7:32
  Yeah.
• 7:33
  And
• 7:33
  you
• 7:33
  had
• 7:33
  grown
• 7:34
  up
• 7:34
  in
• 7:34
  the
• 7:34
  Pacific
• 7:34
  Northwest,
• 7:36
  where
• 7:36
  I
• 7:37
  had
• 7:37
  grown
• 7:37
  up
• 7:37
  where
• 7:38
  I
• 7:38
  still
• 7:38
  live.
• 7:38
  And
• 7:39
  there
• 7:39
  were
• 7:39
  all
• 7:39
  these
• 7:40
  things
• 7:41
  that
• 7:41
  we
• 7:41
  had
• 7:41
  in
• 7:41
  common
• 7:42
  that
• 7:42
  we
• 7:42
  didn't
• 7:42
  realize.
• 7:43
  And
• 7:44
  one
• 7:45
  of
• 7:45
  the
• 7:45
  funny
• 7:45
  things
• 7:46
  I
• 7:46
  remember
• 7:47
  is
• 7:49
  it
• 7:49
  must
• 7:49
  have
• 7:50
  been
• 7:50
  Rosh
• 7:50
  Hashanah.
• 7:52
  Yeah.
• 7:52
  Would
• 7:53
  have
• 7:53
  been.
• 7:53
  And
• 7:53
  we
• 7:53
  went
• 7:53
  to
• 7:54
  your
• 7:54
  friend's
• 7:55
  house
• 7:55
  for
• 7:55
  dinner,
• 7:57
  and
• 7:58
  they
• 7:59
  all
• 7:59
  assumed
• 8:00
  that
• 8:00
  you
• 8:00
  and
• 8:00
  I
• 8:01
  had
• 8:01
  gone
• 8:01
  to
• 8:01
  college
• 8:01
  together
• 8:02
  and
• 8:02
  had
• 8:03
  known
• 8:03
  each
• 8:03
  other
• 8:04
  for
• 8:05
  however
• 8:06
  many
• 8:06
  years
• 8:06
  that
• 8:07
  would
• 8:07
  have
• 8:07
  been.
• 8:07
  Yeah.
• 8:07
  At
• 8:07
  that
• 8:08
  time,
• 8:08
  it
• 8:08
  would
• 8:08
  have
• 8:08
  been.
• 8:08
  25
• 8:09
  years
• 8:10
  or
• 8:10
  something.
• 8:10
  15
• 8:11
  years.
• 8:11
  15
• 8:11
  years.
• 8:12
  Yeah.
• 8:12
  Right.
• 8:14
  I
• 8:14
  graduated.
• 8:14
  I
• 8:14
  had
• 8:15
  the
• 8:15
  math
• 8:15
  in
• 8:15
  my
• 8:15
  head.
• 8:15
  Yeah.
• 8:16
  Yeah.
• 8:17
  So,
• 8:17
  like,
• 8:17
  15
• 8:17
  years.
• 8:18
  But
• 8:18
  anyway,
• 8:19
  they
• 8:19
  thought
• 8:19
  we
• 8:19
  had
• 8:20
  known
• 8:20
  each
• 8:20
  other
• 8:20
  a
• 8:20
  long
• 8:20
  time.
• 8:21
  I
• 8:21
  was
• 8:21
  like,
• 8:21
  oh,
• 8:21
  no,
• 8:21
  we
• 8:22
  just
• 8:22
  met
• 8:22
  yesterday
• 8:23
  or
• 8:23
  whatever.
• 8:24
  Right.
• 8:25
  That
• 8:25
  is
• 8:26
  crazy.
• 8:28
  It
• 8:29
  was
• 8:29
  really
• 8:29
  funny.
• 8:30
  It
• 8:30
  was
• 8:30
  a
• 8:30
  good
• 8:30
  time,
• 8:31
  and
• 8:32
  I
• 8:32
  loved
• 8:32
  all
• 8:32
  your
• 8:32
  friends
• 8:33
  and
• 8:34
  your
• 8:34
  husband,
• 8:35
  and
• 8:35
  we
• 8:36
  just
• 8:36
  had
• 8:38
  a
• 8:38
  really
• 8:38
  great
• 8:38
  week.
• 8:39
  Yeah.
• 8:40
  Except
• 8:41
  for
• 8:41
  the
• 8:41
  going
• 8:41
  up
• 8:41
  in
• 8:42
  the
• 8:42
  arch
• 8:42
  part.
• 8:43
  Oh,
• 8:44
  you're
• 8:44
  such
• 8:44
  a
• 8:45
  baby.
• 8:48
  That
• 8:48
  was
• 8:49
  that
• 8:49
  trip.
• 8:49
  That
• 8:49
  was
• 8:50
  that
• 8:50
  trip.
• 8:50
  Okay.
• 8:51
  Yeah.
• 8:51
  Yeah.
• 8:51
  That
• 8:51
  was
• 8:52
  a
• 8:52
  stinky
• 8:52
  trip
• 8:52
  up
• 8:53
  to
• 8:53
  the
• 8:53
  top
• 8:53
  of
• 8:53
  the
• 8:53
  arch.
• 8:54
  Yeah.
• 8:56
  We
• 8:56
  rode
• 8:57
  with
• 8:57
  some
• 8:57
  people
• 8:58
  who
• 8:58
  didn't
• 8:59
  share
• 8:59
  our
• 9:00
  same
• 9:00
  sensibilities
• 9:01
  with
• 9:02
  perhaps
• 9:02
  washing
• 9:03
  their
• 9:03
  clothes
• 9:03
  and
• 9:04
  their
• 9:04
  bodies
• 9:05
  very
• 9:05
  frequently.
• 9:06
  I
• 9:07
  was
• 9:07
  wondering
• 9:07
  how
• 9:07
  you
• 9:07
  were
• 9:08
  gonna
• 9:08
  put
• 9:08
  that.
• 9:13
  Yeah.
• 9:14
  People
• 9:15
  who
• 9:16
  haven't
• 9:16
  gone
• 9:18
  to
• 9:18
  the
• 9:19
  top
• 9:19
  of
• 9:19
  the
• 9:19
  Arch
• 9:19
  in
• 9:20
  St.
• 9:20
  Louis.
• 9:20
  You
• 9:20
  should
• 9:21
  do
• 9:21
  it.
• 9:21
  We
• 9:21
  did
• 9:22
  it
• 9:22
  again.
• 9:22
  Yeah.
• 9:23
  I
• 9:23
  was
• 9:23
  gonna
• 9:23
  say,
• 9:23
  you've
• 9:23
  done
• 9:23
  it
• 9:24
  twice
• 9:24
  now.
• 9:25
  Yeah.
• 9:26
  It
• 9:26
  was
• 9:26
  much
• 9:26
  more
• 9:26
  pleasant
• 9:27
  the
• 9:28
  last
• 9:28
  time.
• 9:29
  We
• 9:29
  have
• 9:29
  a
• 9:29
  picture
• 9:30
  from
• 9:31
  the
• 9:31
  three
• 9:31
  of
• 9:32
  us
• 9:32
  going
• 9:32
  up
• 9:32
  in
• 9:32
  the
• 9:33
  arch.
• 9:33
  Oh,
• 9:33
  yeah.
• 9:33
  This
• 9:34
  last
• 9:34
  time,
• 9:34
  you
• 9:34
  get
• 9:35
  in,
• 9:35
  like,
• 9:36
  this
• 9:36
  little
• 9:38
  capsule
• 9:38
  thing
• 9:39
  and
• 9:40
  it
• 9:40
  does
• 9:40
  this
• 9:41
  weird
• 9:41
  little
• 9:41
  sort
• 9:42
  of
• 9:42
  ratcheting
• 9:43
  thing
• 9:44
  up
• 9:44
  to.
• 9:45
  To
• 9:45
  keep
• 9:45
  you
• 9:46
  upright.
• 9:46
  Right.
• 9:47
  You
• 9:47
  know,
• 9:47
  you
• 9:47
  don't.
• 9:50
  Yeah.
• 9:51
  But
• 9:52
  it's
• 9:52
  jarring.
• 9:54
  It's
• 9:54
  jarring.
• 9:55
  And
• 9:57
  at
• 9:58
  the
• 9:58
  time,
• 9:59
  I
• 9:59
  felt
• 10:00
  a
• 10:00
  little
• 10:00
  claustrophobic
• 10:01
  in
• 10:01
  there.
• 10:04
  It
• 10:04
  wasn't
• 10:04
  pleasant.
• 10:05
  It's
• 10:05
  definitely
• 10:06
  nicer
• 10:06
  to
• 10:06
  be
• 10:06
  there
• 10:07
  without
• 10:07
  people,
• 10:08
  without
• 10:08
  strangers.
• 10:10
  So
• 10:10
  when
• 10:10
  we
• 10:10
  went
• 10:10
  out,
• 10:10
  especially
• 10:11
  stinky
• 10:12
  strangers,
• 10:14
  And
• 10:14
  I
• 10:14
  don't
• 10:14
  have
• 10:14
  a
• 10:15
  good
• 10:15
  sense
• 10:15
  of
• 10:15
  smell,
• 10:15
  and
• 10:16
  Shannon
• 10:16
  has
• 10:16
  a
• 10:16
  very
• 10:16
  good
• 10:17
  sense
• 10:17
  of
• 10:17
  smell,
• 10:17
  so
• 10:18
  I.
• 10:18
  I
• 10:18
  didn't
• 10:19
  even
• 10:19
  notice.
• 10:20
  And
• 10:21
  you
• 10:22
  were
• 10:22
  about
• 10:22
  to
• 10:22
  pass
• 10:23
  out.
• 10:26
  Oh,
• 10:26
  my
• 10:27
  goodness.
• 10:28
  Yeah.
• 10:28
  Yeah.
• 10:29
  Well,
• 10:29
  and
• 10:30
  the
• 10:30
  thing
• 10:30
  that
• 10:30
  I
• 10:30
  think
• 10:30
  is
• 10:31
  amazing
• 10:31
  is
• 10:32
  given
• 10:32
  that
• 10:32
  you
• 10:32
  live
• 10:33
  in
• 10:33
  Portland
• 10:33
  and
• 10:33
  I
• 10:33
  live
• 10:33
  in
• 10:33
  St.
• 10:34
  Louis,
• 10:34
  I
• 10:35
  think
• 10:35
  that
• 10:36
  we
• 10:36
  have
• 10:36
  not
• 10:36
  had
• 10:37
  a
• 10:37
  calendar
• 10:37
  year
• 10:38
  in
• 10:38
  which
• 10:38
  we
• 10:38
  did
• 10:38
  not
• 10:39
  see
• 10:39
  each
• 10:39
  other
• 10:39
  since
• 10:40
  then.
• 10:40
  That's
• 10:41
  true.
• 10:41
  So
• 10:41
  that's
• 10:41
  24
• 10:42
  years.
• 10:43
  That's
• 10:43
  pretty
• 10:43
  great.
• 10:44
  Even
• 10:44
  during
• 10:44
  COVID
• 10:45
  So.
• 10:46
  Yeah.
• 10:47
  Yeah.
• 10:47
  Well,
• 10:48
  we
• 10:48
  got
• 10:48
  together.
• 10:49
  I
• 10:49
  mean.
• 10:50
  Yeah.
• 10:50
  In
• 10:50
  2020.
• 10:52
  Before.
• 10:53
  Yeah.
• 10:54
  In
• 10:54
  January.
• 10:55
  And
• 10:56
  then
• 10:57
  in
• 10:58
  2021,
• 11:00
  after
• 11:00
  we
• 11:00
  were.
• 11:01
  Vaccinated,
• 11:01
  I
• 11:01
  went
• 11:01
  to
• 11:01
  Walla
• 11:02
  Walla,
• 11:03
  and
• 11:03
  I
• 11:04
  think
• 11:04
  I
• 11:04
  stopped
• 11:05
  in
• 11:05
  Portland.
• 11:07
  Yeah.
• 11:07
  Yeah.
• 11:08
  That
• 11:08
  has
• 11:09
  made
• 11:09
  it
• 11:11
  convenient
• 11:11
  over
• 11:11
  the
• 11:12
  years
• 11:12
  to
• 11:12
  see
• 11:12
  each
• 11:13
  other
• 11:13
  because
• 11:13
  you
• 11:13
  would
• 11:14
  frequently
• 11:14
  fly
• 11:15
  into
• 11:15
  Portland
• 11:16
  and
• 11:16
  then
• 11:16
  drive
• 11:17
  to
• 11:17
  Walla
• 11:17
  Walla.
• 11:18
  Such
• 11:18
  a
• 11:18
  pretty
• 11:19
  drive
• 11:19
  between
• 11:19
  the
• 11:20
  two.
• 11:20
  And.
• 11:21
  Yeah.
• 11:21
  And
• 11:21
  once
• 11:22
  or
• 11:22
  twice.
• 11:22
  Or
• 11:23
  once
• 11:23
  you
• 11:23
  went
• 11:23
  with
• 11:24
  me.
• 11:24
  Right.
• 11:25
  Just
• 11:25
  the
• 11:25
  two
• 11:25
  of
• 11:26
  us.
• 11:26
  You
• 11:26
  just
• 11:26
  went
• 11:26
  for
• 11:26
  the
• 11:27
  fun
• 11:27
  of
• 11:27
  it.
• 11:27
  To
• 11:27
  Walla
• 11:28
  Walla.
• 11:28
  Oh,
• 11:28
  yeah.
• 11:29
  For
• 11:29
  like
• 11:29
  a
• 11:29
  week.
• 11:30
  Yeah.
• 11:30
  For
• 11:30
  a
• 11:30
  long
• 11:31
  time.
• 11:31
  And
• 11:31
  then
• 11:31
  you
• 11:32
  came
• 11:32
  other
• 11:33
  times
• 11:33
  as
• 11:33
  well,
• 11:34
  when
• 11:34
  I
• 11:34
  needed
• 11:34
  you.
• 11:35
  And
• 11:37
  so.
• 11:37
  Yeah,
• 11:38
  now
• 11:38
  that
• 11:38
  I
• 11:38
  don't
• 11:38
  go
• 11:39
  to
• 11:39
  Walla
• 11:39
  Walla
• 11:39
  so
• 11:40
  much,
• 11:40
  my
• 11:40
  parents
• 11:40
  have
• 11:40
  passed
• 11:41
  away.
• 11:41
  We're
• 11:42
  still
• 11:42
  managed,
• 11:42
  but
• 11:43
  it's
• 11:43
  not
• 11:43
  quite
• 11:43
  as
• 11:44
  easy.
• 11:44
  Right,
• 11:46
  right.
• 11:46
  Well,
• 11:47
  now
• 11:47
  we
• 11:47
  just
• 11:47
  have
• 11:48
  to
• 11:48
  make
• 11:48
  a
• 11:48
  little
• 11:48
  bit
• 11:48
  more
• 11:49
  of
• 11:49
  an
• 11:49
  effort.
• 11:51
  Exactly.
• 11:51
  And
• 11:52
  we're
• 11:52
  willing
• 11:52
  to
• 11:52
  do
• 11:52
  that.
• 11:53
  Yeah.
• 11:54
  But
• 11:54
  in
• 11:54
  the
• 11:55
  past,
• 11:55
  because
• 11:58
  professionally,
• 11:59
  we
• 11:59
  had
• 12:00
  been
• 12:00
  doing
• 12:00
  similar
• 12:01
  things,
• 12:02
  like
• 12:03
  pet
• 12:04
  riding.
• 12:05
  We
• 12:06
  would
• 12:06
  go
• 12:07
  to
• 12:08
  see
• 12:08
  the
• 12:08
  Westminster
• 12:09
  Kennel
• 12:10
  Club
• 12:11
  many
• 12:11
  years
• 12:11
  in
• 12:12
  a
• 12:12
  row.
• 12:13
  Yeah.
• 12:13
  And
• 12:13
  the
• 12:14
  Dog
• 12:14
  Riders
• 12:15
  association
• 12:16
  of
• 12:16
  America
• 12:18
  gala
• 12:19
  awards
• 12:21
  Banquet.
• 12:23
  And
• 12:24
  remember,
• 12:24
  we
• 12:25
  went
• 12:25
  to
• 12:25
  the
• 12:25
  Cat
• 12:25
  Riders
• 12:26
  association
• 12:26
  as
• 12:27
  well,
• 12:27
  didn't
• 12:27
  we?
• 12:28
  Oh,
• 12:28
  yeah,
• 12:29
  yeah.
• 12:29
  We
• 12:29
  went
• 12:30
  to
• 12:30
  Houston
• 12:30
  to
• 12:31
  the.
• 12:31
  To
• 12:31
  the
• 12:32
  International
• 12:32
  Cat
• 12:33
  Fanciers
• 12:33
  Show.
• 12:34
  Right.
• 12:39
  Yeah.
• 12:40
  When
• 12:41
  the
• 12:42
  judge
• 12:44
  thought
• 12:44
  that
• 12:45
  I
• 12:45
  wrote
• 12:46
  for
• 12:46
  a.
• 12:46
  Was
• 12:47
  doing
• 12:47
  a
• 12:47
  piece
• 12:48
  for
• 12:48
  a
• 12:48
  different
• 12:50
  outlet,
• 12:51
  for
• 12:51
  a
• 12:51
  significant,
• 12:52
  significantly
• 12:53
  bigger
• 12:54
  one,
• 12:54
  I
• 12:54
  was
• 12:54
  doing
• 12:54
  what?
• 12:54
  A
• 12:55
  piece
• 12:55
  for
• 12:56
  a
• 12:56
  local
• 12:56
  Portland
• 12:58
  paper.
• 12:58
  Which
• 12:59
  show
• 12:59
  are
• 12:59
  we
• 12:59
  talking
• 12:59
  about?
• 13:00
  The
• 13:00
  Cat
• 13:01
  Fancy
• 13:01
  Show.
• 13:01
  The
• 13:01
  Cat
• 13:02
  show.
• 13:02
  Okay.
• 13:02
  Huh.
• 13:03
  I
• 13:03
  don't
• 13:03
  remember
• 13:03
  this
• 13:04
  at
• 13:04
  all.
• 13:04
  Yes.
• 13:05
  You
• 13:05
  don't
• 13:05
  remember
• 13:05
  this?
• 13:06
  No.
• 13:07
  So
• 13:07
  I
• 13:07
  was
• 13:08
  doing
• 13:09
  a
• 13:09
  piece
• 13:09
  for
• 13:10
  the
• 13:11
  local
• 13:11
  Dog
• 13:11
  Knows
• 13:12
  News.
• 13:12
  Oh,
• 13:13
  yeah.
• 13:13
  The
• 13:13
  Dog
• 13:13
  Knows
• 13:14
  News.
• 13:15
  She
• 13:17
  thought
• 13:17
  I
• 13:18
  was
• 13:18
  doing
• 13:19
  a
• 13:19
  piece
• 13:20
  for,
• 13:20
  I
• 13:20
  think
• 13:21
  the
• 13:21
  Dog
• 13:21
  News,
• 13:22
  which
• 13:22
  was
• 13:22
  like
• 13:22
  a
• 13:23
  national.
• 13:24
  Big.
• 13:25
  Like
• 13:25
  a
• 13:25
  trade
• 13:26
  publication.
• 13:26
  It
• 13:27
  was
• 13:27
  a
• 13:27
  big
• 13:27
  deal.
• 13:28
  Yeah.
• 13:30
  And
• 13:31
  someone
• 13:32
  had.
• 13:32
  Or
• 13:33
  no,
• 13:33
  I
• 13:33
  had
• 13:33
  gone
• 13:33
  up
• 13:34
  and
• 13:34
  introduced
• 13:34
  myself
• 13:35
  to
• 13:35
  her
• 13:36
  and
• 13:36
  saying,
• 13:36
  you
• 13:37
  know,
• 13:37
  I'm
• 13:37
  here.
• 13:38
  I'm
• 13:38
  writing
• 13:39
  a
• 13:39
  Piece.
• 13:39
  I
• 13:39
  know
• 13:40
  nothing
• 13:40
  about
• 13:40
  cat
• 13:41
  shows.
• 13:42
  Someone
• 13:42
  told
• 13:43
  me
• 13:43
  that
• 13:43
  I
• 13:44
  should
• 13:46
  be
• 13:48
  there
• 13:48
  when
• 13:48
  you're
• 13:48
  doing
• 13:49
  judging
• 13:49
  because
• 13:49
  you
• 13:50
  do
• 13:50
  a
• 13:50
  good
• 13:50
  job
• 13:50
  of
• 13:51
  explaining
• 13:51
  stuff.
• 13:52
  And
• 13:52
  then
• 13:53
  I
• 13:53
  sat
• 13:53
  down
• 13:54
  and
• 13:54
  thought
• 13:54
  that
• 13:55
  was
• 13:55
  the
• 13:55
  end
• 13:55
  of
• 13:55
  it.
• 13:55
  And
• 13:56
  she
• 13:56
  was
• 13:56
  getting
• 13:56
  ready
• 13:57
  to
• 13:57
  start
• 13:57
  her
• 13:58
  judging
• 14:00
  and
• 14:01
  said,
• 14:02
  before
• 14:03
  we
• 14:03
  get
• 14:03
  started,
• 14:04
  we
• 14:04
  have
• 14:04
  a
• 14:04
  very
• 14:05
  special
• 14:05
  guest
• 14:06
  here
• 14:06
  today.
• 14:09
  Is
• 14:09
  this
• 14:10
  coming
• 14:10
  back
• 14:10
  to
• 14:10
  you
• 14:11
  now?
• 14:11
  No.
• 14:12
  Really?
• 14:13
  You
• 14:13
  were
• 14:14
  there.
• 14:14
  I
• 14:15
  was
• 14:15
  there.
• 14:15
  You
• 14:15
  were
• 14:16
  there.
• 14:17
  And
• 14:17
  she's
• 14:17
  like,
• 14:19
  I'd
• 14:19
  like
• 14:19
  to
• 14:20
  introduce
• 14:20
  you
• 14:20
  all
• 14:21
  to
• 14:21
  Shannon
• 14:22
  Wilkinson
• 14:23
  from
• 14:23
  the
• 14:23
  Dog
• 14:24
  News.
• 14:24
  And,
• 14:25
  like,
• 14:25
  had
• 14:25
  me
• 14:26
  stand.
• 14:26
  Stand
• 14:26
  up.
• 14:27
  And.
• 14:29
  And
• 14:30
  what
• 14:30
  I
• 14:30
  remember
• 14:31
  most
• 14:31
  was
• 14:32
  about
• 14:33
  you
• 14:33
  being
• 14:33
  there
• 14:34
  was
• 14:34
  like
• 14:34
  someone
• 14:34
  goes
• 14:36
  and
• 14:36
  did
• 14:36
  a
• 14:36
  big
• 14:36
  woo.
• 14:37
  And
• 14:37
  you
• 14:37
  afterwards,
• 14:38
  were
• 14:38
  laughing
• 14:39
  so
• 14:39
  hard.
• 14:39
  You're
• 14:40
  like,
• 14:40
  you
• 14:40
  got
• 14:40
  a
• 14:40
  woo.
• 14:43
  That's
• 14:44
  awesome.
• 14:45
  Did
• 14:45
  you
• 14:45
  tell
• 14:45
  her
• 14:46
  that
• 14:46
  you
• 14:46
  were
• 14:47
  actually
• 14:47
  with
• 14:47
  the
• 14:47
  Dog
• 14:48
  Nose
• 14:48
  News?
• 14:50
  No.
• 14:50
  There
• 14:50
  was
• 14:50
  no
• 14:50
  opportunity.
• 14:51
  Probably.
• 14:52
  There
• 14:52
  was
• 14:52
  no
• 14:52
  opportunity.
• 14:53
  And
• 14:53
  then
• 14:53
  she's
• 14:54
  like,
• 14:54
  okay,
• 14:54
  let's
• 14:54
  get
• 14:55
  started.
• 14:55
  Started.
• 14:55
  And
• 14:55
  I
• 14:56
  just
• 14:56
  sat
• 14:56
  down
• 14:57
  and
• 14:57
  was
• 14:58
  completely
• 14:59
  mortified.
• 15:01
  I
• 15:01
  can't
• 15:02
  believe.
• 15:02
  I
• 15:02
  don't
• 15:02
  remember
• 15:02
  that.
• 15:03
  That
• 15:03
  is
• 15:03
  so
• 15:03
  great.
• 15:04
  Yeah,
• 15:05
  those,
• 15:05
  those,
• 15:05
  those
• 15:06
  pet
• 15:06
  things
• 15:07
  events
• 15:08
  were
• 15:08
  fun.
• 15:08
  I
• 15:09
  mean,
• 15:09
  they
• 15:09
  were
• 15:10
  their
• 15:10
  own
• 15:11
  thing,
• 15:11
  right?
• 15:12
  Yes,
• 15:12
  yes.
• 15:13
  Yeah.
• 15:13
  There's
• 15:14
  no
• 15:15
  experience,
• 15:16
  like
• 15:17
  being
• 15:18
  behind
• 15:18
  the
• 15:18
  scenes
• 15:19
  at
• 15:20
  Westminster
• 15:21
  where
• 15:21
  there's
• 15:22
  dogs
• 15:23
  with
• 15:23
  rollers
• 15:23
  in
• 15:24
  their
• 15:24
  hair
• 15:25
  and
• 15:27
  it's
• 15:27
  all
• 15:27
  kinds
• 15:28
  of
• 15:28
  things
• 15:28
  going
• 15:29
  on.
• 15:29
  And.
• 15:30
  And
• 15:30
  then
• 15:30
  at
• 15:31
  the
• 15:31
  cat
• 15:32
  show.
• 15:33
  That
• 15:35
  was
• 15:36
  an
• 15:36
  experience
• 15:36
  unto
• 15:37
  itself.
• 15:38
  Yeah.
• 15:38
  Yeah.
• 15:39
  Cat
• 15:39
  shows
• 15:39
  are
• 15:39
  really
• 15:39
  interesting.
• 15:40
  They're.
• 15:41
  Especially
• 15:41
  when
• 15:41
  you're
• 15:41
  used
• 15:42
  to
• 15:42
  dog
• 15:42
  shows
• 15:43
  because
• 15:43
  you
• 15:44
  can't
• 15:44
  get
• 15:44
  a
• 15:44
  cat
• 15:45
  to
• 15:45
  run
• 15:45
  around
• 15:45
  the
• 15:45
  ring
• 15:45
  with
• 15:45
  you.
• 15:46
  So
• 15:46
  they
• 15:46
  have
• 15:46
  to
• 15:46
  have
• 15:46
  other
• 15:47
  ways
• 15:47
  of
• 15:47
  showing
• 15:47
  them.
• 15:48
  Yeah.
• 15:48
  Which
• 15:48
  is
• 15:49
  basically
• 15:49
  they
• 15:49
  just
• 15:50
  lift
• 15:50
  them
• 15:51
  up
• 15:51
  and
• 15:51
  stretch
• 15:52
  them
• 15:52
  out
• 15:52
  and
• 15:53
  turn
• 15:53
  them
• 15:53
  around.
• 15:55
  Someone's
• 15:55
  like
• 15:56
  waving
• 15:56
  a
• 15:56
  toy
• 15:57
  in
• 15:57
  front
• 15:57
  of
• 15:57
  their
• 15:58
  face.
• 15:58
  And
• 15:59
  I
• 15:59
  feel
• 15:59
  like
• 15:59
  they.
• 16:00
  They
• 16:01
  will
• 16:01
  stick.
• 16:01
  Start
• 16:01
  out
• 16:02
  by
• 16:02
  sticking
• 16:02
  a
• 16:02
  toy
• 16:03
  in
• 16:03
  the
• 16:04
  crate
• 16:04
  that
• 16:04
  the
• 16:04
  cat's
• 16:05
  in.
• 16:05
  Yeah.
• 16:06
  And
• 16:06
  seeing.
• 16:07
  Oh,
• 16:07
  yeah,
• 16:07
  all
• 16:07
  the
• 16:07
  cats
• 16:07
  are
• 16:08
  set
• 16:08
  there
• 16:08
  in
• 16:09
  crates.
• 16:09
  Yeah.
• 16:10
  Something.
• 16:11
  Yeah.
• 16:12
  So.
• 16:12
  Right.
• 16:13
  So
• 16:13
  we've
• 16:13
  been
• 16:13
  together
• 16:14
  in
• 16:14
  many
• 16:14
  different
• 16:14
  places
• 16:15
  as
• 16:15
  well
• 16:15
  as
• 16:15
  Portland
• 16:16
  and
• 16:16
  walla
• 16:17
  Walla
• 16:17
  and
• 16:17
  St.
• 16:17
  Louis.
• 16:17
  Yeah.
• 16:19
  Very
• 16:19
  fortunate.
• 16:21
  I
• 16:21
  know,
• 16:22
  it's
• 16:22
  great.
• 16:22
  I
• 16:23
  don't
• 16:23
  even
• 16:23
  know
• 16:23
  how.
• 16:25
  We
• 16:25
  just
• 16:26
  were
• 16:26
  so
• 16:26
  comfortable
• 16:27
  together
• 16:27
  from
• 16:28
  the
• 16:28
  very
• 16:28
  beginning.
• 16:29
  But
• 16:30
  we
• 16:30
  were.
• 16:31
  And
• 16:31
  then,
• 16:32
  you
• 16:32
  know,
• 16:33
  over
• 16:33
  time.
• 16:33
  When
• 16:34
  we
• 16:34
  first
• 16:34
  met,
• 16:35
  you
• 16:35
  were
• 16:36
  a
• 16:36
  writer
• 16:37
  full
• 16:37
  time
• 16:39
  and
• 16:39
  I
• 16:40
  was
• 16:40
  doing
• 16:41
  invest
• 16:41
  relations.
• 16:42
  I
• 16:42
  had
• 16:42
  an
• 16:42
  investor
• 16:43
  relations
• 16:43
  consulting
• 16:44
  practice.
• 16:44
  And
• 16:45
  then
• 16:45
  I
• 16:45
  started
• 16:46
  doing
• 16:46
  some
• 16:47
  pet
• 16:47
  writing.
• 16:48
  And
• 16:49
  then
• 16:50
  our
• 16:50
  careers
• 16:50
  sort
• 16:51
  of
• 16:51
  evolved
• 16:52
  and
• 16:53
  we
• 16:54
  ended
• 16:54
  up
• 16:55
  collaborating
• 16:56
  on
• 16:56
  a
• 16:57
  number
• 16:57
  of
• 16:57
  different
• 16:57
  things.
• 16:58
  Well,
• 16:58
  that's
• 16:58
  true.
• 16:59
  Yeah.
• 16:59
  We've
• 16:59
  had
• 17:00
  workshops
• 17:01
  together.
• 17:01
  We've
• 17:01
  had
• 17:02
  tele
• 17:02
  classes.
• 17:05
  What
• 17:05
  do
• 17:05
  we
• 17:05
  call
• 17:06
  these
• 17:06
  other
• 17:06
  kinds
• 17:06
  of
• 17:06
  classes?
• 17:07
  E
• 17:07
  courses.
• 17:07
  Oh,
• 17:07
  yeah,
• 17:07
  we
• 17:08
  had
• 17:08
  E
• 17:08
  courses
• 17:09
  because
• 17:09
  we.
• 17:09
  Yeah,
• 17:10
  we
• 17:10
  jump
• 17:11
  at
• 17:11
  every
• 17:11
  chance
• 17:11
  we
• 17:12
  can
• 17:12
  to
• 17:12
  collaborate.
• 17:13
  And
• 17:13
  then,
• 17:13
  you
• 17:14
  know,
• 17:14
  the
• 17:14
  podcast
• 17:15
  back
• 17:15
  in
• 17:15
  2018
• 17:16
  allowed
• 17:16
  us
• 17:16
  to
• 17:17
  collaborate
• 17:17
  weekly,
• 17:18
  so
• 17:19
  that's
• 17:19
  nice.
• 17:20
  Yeah.
• 17:21
  And
• 17:21
  now
• 17:21
  we're
• 17:21
  back.
• 17:21
  Really
• 17:22
  fun.
• 17:22
  Yeah.
• 17:24
  And
• 17:25
  we.
• 17:25
  But
• 17:26
  we've
• 17:26
  also
• 17:27
  done
• 17:27
  a
• 17:27
  lot
• 17:27
  of
• 17:28
  dissimilar
• 17:29
  things
• 17:29
  over
• 17:30
  the
• 17:30
  years.
• 17:31
  Yes.
• 17:31
  I
• 17:31
  was
• 17:32
  just
• 17:32
  thinking
• 17:32
  about
• 17:32
  that.
• 17:33
  All
• 17:33
  for
• 17:33
  those
• 17:34
  similarities.
• 17:34
  There
• 17:35
  are
• 17:35
  lots
• 17:35
  of
• 17:35
  differences.
• 17:36
  Like,
• 17:37
  as
• 17:38
  my
• 17:38
  friend
• 17:38
  Geralyn
• 17:39
  says,
• 17:39
  I'm
• 17:39
  an
• 17:39
  indoor
• 17:39
  cat,
• 17:40
  so
• 17:41
  I
• 17:41
  like
• 17:43
  and
• 17:44
  do
• 17:44
  cozy
• 17:44
  inside
• 17:44
  things.
• 17:46
  And
• 17:46
  you
• 17:46
  like
• 17:46
  to
• 17:46
  go
• 17:47
  outside
• 17:47
  and
• 17:48
  do
• 17:48
  dangerous
• 17:48
  outside
• 17:49
  things.
• 17:52
  No.
• 17:52
  I
• 17:52
  mean,
• 17:52
  I
• 17:53
  have
• 17:53
  in
• 17:53
  the
• 17:53
  past
• 17:54
  done
• 17:54
  some
• 17:54
  things
• 17:55
  that
• 17:56
  were
• 17:56
  maybe
• 17:56
  a
• 17:57
  little
• 17:57
  more
• 17:57
  risky
• 17:58
  than
• 17:58
  others,
• 17:59
  but
• 18:00
  it's
• 18:00
  not
• 18:00
  like
• 18:00
  I'm
• 18:01
  out
• 18:01
  there
• 18:01
  courting
• 18:02
  danger
• 18:03
  these
• 18:03
  days.
• 18:04
  Fair
• 18:04
  enough.
• 18:04
  I
• 18:04
  didn't
• 18:04
  want
• 18:05
  to
• 18:05
  make
• 18:05
  it
• 18:05
  sound
• 18:05
  like
• 18:05
  you're
• 18:06
  a
• 18:06
  tornado
• 18:07
  chaser
• 18:07
  or
• 18:07
  something,
• 18:08
  but,
• 18:08
  I
• 18:09
  mean,
• 18:09
  you
• 18:09
  were
• 18:09
  climbing
• 18:10
  mountains.
• 18:12
  Mountains.
• 18:13
  And
• 18:13
  one
• 18:14
  day
• 18:14
  you
• 18:14
  called
• 18:14
  me
• 18:15
  and
• 18:15
  said,
• 18:15
  I'm
• 18:15
  climbing
• 18:16
  by
• 18:16
  myself,
• 18:18
  so
• 18:18
  I'm
• 18:18
  going
• 18:18
  to
• 18:19
  call
• 18:19
  you
• 18:19
  when
• 18:19
  I'm
• 18:20
  done.
• 18:20
  And
• 18:20
  if
• 18:20
  I
• 18:21
  don't
• 18:21
  call
• 18:21
  you,
• 18:21
  here's
• 18:22
  the
• 18:22
  emergency
• 18:23
  number
• 18:23
  to
• 18:23
  call.
• 18:24
  I'm
• 18:24
  like,
• 18:25
  what?
• 18:26
  And
• 18:27
  I'm
• 18:27
  not
• 18:27
  going
• 18:28
  to
• 18:28
  say
• 18:28
  no
• 18:28
  to
• 18:28
  that,
• 18:29
  of
• 18:29
  course,
• 18:30
  but
• 18:30
  I
• 18:31
  was
• 18:31
  a
• 18:31
  little
• 18:31
  nervous
• 18:32
  until
• 18:32
  you
• 18:32
  called
• 18:32
  me.
• 18:33
  And
• 18:33
  also,
• 18:33
  like,
• 18:33
  why
• 18:34
  are
• 18:34
  you
• 18:34
  doing
• 18:34
  this
• 18:34
  by
• 18:34
  yourself?
• 18:35
  Why?
• 18:36
  Why,
• 18:36
  Shannon?
• 18:37
  But
• 18:37
  you
• 18:37
  made
• 18:37
  it.
• 18:38
  I
• 18:39
  did.
• 18:39
  Well,
• 18:39
  because
• 18:40
  it
• 18:40
  was
• 18:40
  New
• 18:40
  Year's
• 18:41
  Day,
• 18:41
  and
• 18:42
  I
• 18:42
  knew
• 18:42
  at
• 18:43
  least
• 18:43
  two
• 18:44
  groups
• 18:44
  that
• 18:44
  were
• 18:44
  going
• 18:45
  to
• 18:45
  be
• 18:45
  climbing,
• 18:45
  and
• 18:47
  so
• 18:48
  I
• 18:48
  knew
• 18:48
  that
• 18:49
  I
• 18:49
  wasn't
• 18:49
  really
• 18:50
  going
• 18:50
  to
• 18:50
  be
• 18:50
  alone,
• 18:51
  that
• 18:51
  there
• 18:51
  were
• 18:52
  going
• 18:52
  to
• 18:52
  be
• 18:52
  other
• 18:52
  people
• 18:52
  on
• 18:53
  the
• 18:53
  mountain.
• 18:53
  And
• 18:53
  this
• 18:54
  was
• 18:54
  a
• 18:54
  climb
• 18:55
  of
• 18:55
  Mount
• 18:55
  St.
• 18:56
  Helens,
• 18:58
  and
• 19:01
  that
• 19:01
  actually
• 19:02
  ended
• 19:02
  up
• 19:03
  being
• 19:03
  my
• 19:03
  last
• 19:03
  mountain
• 19:04
  climb.
• 19:05
  Oh,
• 19:05
  wow.
• 19:05
  I
• 19:05
  don't
• 19:05
  think
• 19:06
  I
• 19:06
  realized
• 19:06
  that.
• 19:07
  Yeah,
• 19:08
  well,
• 19:08
  I
• 19:08
  get.
• 19:09
  Was
• 19:09
  climbing
• 19:09
  by
• 19:10
  yourself
• 19:10
  a
• 19:10
  goal?
• 19:12
  Yeah.
• 19:13
  Okay.
• 19:13
  Well,
• 19:14
  it
• 19:14
  was
• 19:14
  something
• 19:14
  that
• 19:14
  I
• 19:15
  wanted
• 19:15
  to
• 19:15
  do.
• 19:16
  Yeah.
• 19:16
  And.
• 19:17
  And
• 19:17
  it
• 19:17
  was
• 19:18
  an
• 19:18
  amazing
• 19:19
  experience.
• 19:19
  I'm
• 19:20
  so
• 19:20
  glad
• 19:20
  I
• 19:21
  did
• 19:21
  it.
• 19:21
  And
• 19:21
  I
• 19:21
  felt
• 19:22
  completely
• 19:23
  safe
• 19:24
  the
• 19:24
  whole
• 19:24
  time.
• 19:25
  And
• 19:25
  the
• 19:25
  reason
• 19:25
  why
• 19:26
  I
• 19:26
  gave
• 19:26
  you
• 19:27
  the
• 19:27
  information
• 19:28
  is
• 19:28
  because
• 19:28
  there's
• 19:29
  no
• 19:29
  cell
• 19:29
  service
• 19:30
  there.
• 19:32
  And
• 19:32
  so.
• 19:35
  And
• 19:35
  you
• 19:35
  know,
• 19:36
  it's
• 19:38
  safety.
• 19:39
  Right.
• 19:39
  Because
• 19:40
  you're
• 19:40
  a
• 19:40
  smart
• 19:40
  gal.
• 19:41
  You're
• 19:41
  not
• 19:41
  a
• 19:41
  party
• 19:41
  girl.
• 19:42
  Someone.
• 19:42
  Someone
• 19:42
  needed
• 19:43
  to
• 19:43
  know
• 19:43
  where
• 19:43
  I
• 19:43
  was
• 19:44
  going
• 19:44
  and
• 19:44
  what
• 19:45
  I
• 19:45
  was
• 19:45
  doing.
• 19:46
  And
• 19:46
  I
• 19:46
  wasn't
• 19:46
  gonna
• 19:47
  tell
• 19:47
  my
• 19:47
  mom.
• 19:50
  Yeah.
• 19:51
  So
• 19:51
  I
• 19:51
  was
• 19:51
  just,
• 19:52
  like,
• 19:52
  you
• 19:52
  weren't
• 19:52
  stressed
• 19:53
  out
• 19:53
  about
• 19:53
  it,
• 19:53
  but
• 19:53
  I
• 19:54
  was.
• 19:54
  But
• 19:54
  that's
• 19:55
  fine.
• 19:55
  I
• 19:55
  stayed
• 19:55
  inside
• 19:56
  and
• 19:56
  everything
• 19:57
  was
• 19:57
  fine.
• 19:58
  Yeah,
• 19:58
  but
• 19:59
  you,
• 19:59
  like,
• 19:59
  you
• 19:59
  run
• 19:59
  marathon
• 20:00
  or
• 20:00
  you
• 20:00
  have
• 20:00
  run
• 20:01
  marathons.
• 20:01
  I
• 20:01
  don't
• 20:02
  think
• 20:02
  you're
• 20:02
  a
• 20:02
  marathoner.
• 20:03
  Currently.
• 20:04
  I
• 20:04
  am.
• 20:04
  I'm
• 20:05
  not
• 20:05
  currently
• 20:06
  a
• 20:06
  marathoner.
• 20:07
  I
• 20:07
  have
• 20:07
  walked
• 20:08
  a
• 20:08
  half
• 20:08
  marathon.
• 20:10
  I
• 20:10
  know.
• 20:10
  But
• 20:11
  you
• 20:11
  know
• 20:11
  what's
• 20:11
  really
• 20:11
  funny?
• 20:12
  When
• 20:12
  you
• 20:13
  walk,
• 20:13
  we're
• 20:14
  walking
• 20:14
  half
• 20:14
  marathons.
• 20:15
  I
• 20:16
  thought
• 20:16
  that
• 20:16
  was.
• 20:17
  That
• 20:18
  was
• 20:18
  a
• 20:18
  lot
• 20:18
  like.
• 20:19
  I
• 20:19
  didn't
• 20:20
  know
• 20:20
  how
• 20:20
  you
• 20:20
  did
• 20:20
  that.
• 20:21
  That
• 20:21
  was
• 20:22
  because
• 20:22
  you
• 20:22
  weren't
• 20:23
  running
• 20:23
  yet.
• 20:24
  Right,
• 20:24
  right,
• 20:25
  right.
• 20:25
  Yeah.
• 20:25
  So
• 20:25
  you
• 20:26
  were
• 20:26
  impressed.
• 20:26
  Now
• 20:27
  you're
• 20:27
  less
• 20:27
  impressed.
• 20:28
  I'm
• 20:28
  guessing
• 20:29
  I'm
• 20:30
  still
• 20:30
  impressed
• 20:31
  that
• 20:31
  you.
• 20:31
  Did
• 20:31
  it,
• 20:32
  given
• 20:32
  my
• 20:32
  propensity
• 20:33
  to
• 20:33
  not
• 20:33
  exercise.
• 20:34
  Yeah,
• 20:34
  yeah,
• 20:35
  yeah.
• 20:35
  But
• 20:36
  also,
• 20:36
  you
• 20:37
  know,
• 20:37
  walking
• 20:38
  13.1
• 20:39
  miles
• 20:40
  is
• 20:41
  an
• 20:41
  achievement,
• 20:42
  for
• 20:42
  sure.
• 20:42
  That's
• 20:43
  time
• 20:43
  consuming
• 20:43
  anyway.
• 20:45
  Yeah.
• 20:45
  It
• 20:45
  takes
• 20:45
  a
• 20:45
  while.
• 20:46
  Yeah.
• 20:48
  Yeah.
• 20:50
  You're
• 20:51
  a
• 20:51
  big
• 20:51
  traveler.
• 20:53
  Yes,
• 20:53
  I
• 20:53
  love
• 20:54
  traveling.
• 20:56
  Well,
• 20:57
  I
• 20:57
  was
• 20:57
  thinking
• 20:58
  that
• 20:58
  with
• 20:58
  the
• 20:58
  walking
• 20:59
  thing,
• 21:00
  I
• 21:00
  did
• 21:00
  a
• 21:01
  big
• 21:01
  walk
• 21:03
  in
• 21:04
  2022.
• 21:06
  Yeah.
• 21:08
  Yeah.
• 21:09
  Well,
• 21:09
  I
• 21:09
  was
• 21:09
  supposed
• 21:09
  to
• 21:10
  go
• 21:10
  in
• 21:11
  May
• 21:11
  of
• 21:11
  2020,
• 21:13
  and
• 21:14
  obviously
• 21:14
  that
• 21:15
  got
• 21:15
  canceled.
• 21:16
  Yeah.
• 21:17
  So
• 21:18
  then
• 21:18
  it
• 21:19
  was
• 21:19
  in
• 21:20
  2022
• 21:22
  that
• 21:22
  I
• 21:22
  went
• 21:22
  to
• 21:23
  Portugal
• 21:24
  and
• 21:25
  walked
• 21:25
  the
• 21:26
  Camino
• 21:26
  de
• 21:26
  Santiago,
• 21:27
  which
• 21:27
  is
• 21:27
  a
• 21:28
  pilgrimage
• 21:29
  walk
• 21:30
  from.
• 21:31
  There
• 21:31
  are
• 21:31
  many
• 21:32
  places
• 21:32
  to
• 21:32
  start,
• 21:33
  but
• 21:33
  I
• 21:33
  started
• 21:33
  in
• 21:34
  Porto,
• 21:34
  Portugal,
• 21:35
  and
• 21:35
  walked
• 21:36
  to
• 21:37
  Santiago
• 21:38
  de
• 21:38
  Compostela,
• 21:39
  Spain.
• 21:41
  And
• 21:41
  what
• 21:41
  was
• 21:42
  the
• 21:42
  distance?
• 21:44
  It
• 21:44
  was
• 21:45
  a
• 21:45
  little
• 21:45
  bit
• 21:46
  over
• 21:46
  200
• 21:47
  miles.
• 21:47
  Amazing.
• 21:49
  Yeah.
• 21:50
  And
• 21:50
  I
• 21:51
  walked,
• 21:53
  I
• 21:54
  think,
• 21:54
  16
• 21:55
  days.
• 21:57
  And.
• 21:58
  And
• 21:58
  I
• 21:59
  averaged
• 22:00
  about
• 22:00
  13
• 22:01
  miles
• 22:01
  a
• 22:02
  day.
• 22:02
  Oh,
• 22:03
  wow.
• 22:03
  For
• 22:03
  16
• 22:04
  days.
• 22:04
  Wow.
• 22:05
  And
• 22:05
  you
• 22:05
  did.
• 22:05
  But
• 22:06
  I
• 22:06
  had
• 22:06
  days
• 22:06
  that
• 22:06
  were
• 22:07
  like
• 22:07
  five
• 22:07
  or
• 22:07
  six
• 22:08
  miles,
• 22:08
  and
• 22:08
  then
• 22:09
  I
• 22:09
  had
• 22:09
  days
• 22:09
  that
• 22:10
  were
• 22:10
  like
• 22:11
  18.
• 22:12
  I
• 22:12
  think
• 22:12
  I
• 22:12
  had.
• 22:13
  I
• 22:13
  think
• 22:13
  I
• 22:13
  might
• 22:14
  have
• 22:14
  had
• 22:14
  one
• 22:14
  20
• 22:15
  mile
• 22:15
  day.
• 22:15
  Wow,
• 22:16
  that's
• 22:16
  impressive.
• 22:17
  And
• 22:17
  you
• 22:17
  didn't.
• 22:18
  You
• 22:18
  did
• 22:18
  it
• 22:18
  unaccompanied.
• 22:19
  I
• 22:19
  mean,
• 22:19
  I
• 22:19
  imagine
• 22:20
  you
• 22:20
  talk
• 22:20
  to
• 22:20
  people
• 22:20
  along
• 22:21
  the
• 22:21
  way,
• 22:21
  but
• 22:21
  you
• 22:21
  weren't
• 22:21
  walking
• 22:22
  with
• 22:22
  somebody.
• 22:23
  Correct.
• 22:23
  I
• 22:24
  was
• 22:24
  by
• 22:24
  myself.
• 22:25
  Yeah.
• 22:25
  I
• 22:25
  did
• 22:26
  have
• 22:26
  a
• 22:27
  friend,
• 22:28
  Jonathan,
• 22:29
  who
• 22:30
  was
• 22:30
  living
• 22:31
  in
• 22:31
  Portugal
• 22:31
  at
• 22:32
  the
• 22:32
  time,
• 22:32
  and
• 22:33
  he
• 22:33
  actually
• 22:34
  picked
• 22:34
  me
• 22:35
  up
• 22:35
  at
• 22:35
  the
• 22:35
  airport
• 22:36
  in
• 22:36
  Porto,
• 22:37
  which
• 22:37
  was
• 22:37
  really
• 22:37
  nice,
• 22:38
  and
• 22:39
  got
• 22:39
  me
• 22:39
  settled
• 22:39
  in
• 22:39
  my
• 22:40
  hotel
• 22:40
  room.
• 22:41
  And
• 22:41
  then
• 22:41
  we
• 22:41
  went
• 22:41
  to
• 22:42
  dinner.
• 22:43
  And
• 22:43
  then
• 22:45
  the
• 22:45
  next
• 22:45
  day,
• 22:46
  I
• 22:48
  had
• 22:48
  just
• 22:48
  found
• 22:49
  out
• 22:49
  a
• 22:49
  couple
• 22:49
  days
• 22:50
  previously
• 22:50
  on
• 22:50
  social
• 22:51
  media
• 22:51
  that
• 22:52
  another
• 22:52
  person
• 22:53
  I
• 22:53
  knew
• 22:53
  was
• 22:54
  walking
• 22:54
  at
• 22:55
  the
• 22:55
  same
• 22:55
  time.
• 22:56
  She
• 22:56
  was
• 22:57
  starting
• 22:57
  a
• 22:57
  day
• 22:58
  later
• 22:58
  than
• 22:58
  me,
• 23:00
  and
• 23:01
  so
• 23:01
  I
• 23:01
  met
• 23:01
  her
• 23:01
  for
• 23:01
  breakfast,
• 23:03
  and
• 23:03
  then
• 23:04
  I
• 23:04
  just
• 23:04
  started
• 23:05
  walking.
• 23:05
  Yeah.
• 23:06
  Amazing.
• 23:07
  Yeah.
• 23:08
  And
• 23:08
  then
• 23:08
  I
• 23:10
  met
• 23:11
  Jonathan
• 23:11
  in
• 23:12
  the
• 23:12
  town
• 23:12
  he
• 23:13
  was
• 23:13
  living
• 23:13
  in
• 23:14
  at
• 23:14
  the
• 23:14
  time
• 23:15
  and.
• 23:15
  And
• 23:16
  took
• 23:16
  a
• 23:16
  rest
• 23:16
  day
• 23:17
  at
• 23:17
  his
• 23:17
  apartment,
• 23:18
  which
• 23:18
  was
• 23:18
  really
• 23:18
  nice,
• 23:19
  particularly
• 23:20
  because
• 23:20
  it
• 23:20
  was
• 23:21
  pouring
• 23:22
  rain
• 23:22
  that
• 23:23
  day.
• 23:24
  But
• 23:25
  I
• 23:25
  got
• 23:25
  to
• 23:26
  do
• 23:26
  actual
• 23:27
  laundry
• 23:28
  in
• 23:28
  a
• 23:28
  washing
• 23:29
  machine
• 23:30
  as
• 23:30
  opposed
• 23:30
  to
• 23:31
  washing
• 23:32
  my
• 23:32
  clothes
• 23:33
  in
• 23:33
  the
• 23:34
  sink
• 23:34
  or
• 23:34
  the
• 23:34
  shower
• 23:35
  every
• 23:35
  day.
• 23:36
  So
• 23:36
  that
• 23:36
  was
• 23:36
  nice.
• 23:37
  Yeah.
• 23:38
  And.
• 23:39
  And
• 23:39
  then
• 23:39
  that
• 23:40
  rest
• 23:40
  day
• 23:40
  meant
• 23:41
  that
• 23:41
  I
• 23:41
  ran
• 23:42
  into
• 23:42
  my
• 23:42
  friend
• 23:43
  again.
• 23:43
  Oh,
• 23:43
  nice.
• 23:44
  Did
• 23:44
  you
• 23:44
  walk
• 23:44
  with
• 23:45
  her
• 23:45
  at
• 23:45
  all
• 23:45
  or
• 23:45
  was
• 23:46
  she
• 23:46
  resting?
• 23:46
  I
• 23:46
  walked
• 23:47
  with
• 23:47
  her.
• 23:48
  I
• 23:48
  walked
• 23:48
  with
• 23:48
  her
• 23:48
  a
• 23:49
  little
• 23:49
  bit,
• 23:49
  and
• 23:50
  then
• 23:50
  we
• 23:51
  just
• 23:51
  walked
• 23:51
  at
• 23:51
  different
• 23:52
  paces.
• 23:52
  So
• 23:53
  I
• 23:53
  walked
• 23:53
  with
• 23:54
  her
• 23:54
  and
• 23:54
  her
• 23:54
  friend
• 23:55
  for
• 23:55
  a
• 23:55
  little
• 23:55
  bit
• 23:56
  and
• 23:56
  then
• 23:56
  I
• 23:57
  went
• 23:57
  on
• 23:57
  my
• 23:57
  way
• 23:57
  and
• 23:58
  I
• 23:58
  met
• 23:58
  interesting
• 23:59
  people.
• 24:00
  Yeah.
• 24:00
  All
• 24:00
  along
• 24:01
  the
• 24:01
  way.
• 24:01
  And.
• 24:02
  Yeah,
• 24:02
  it
• 24:02
  sounds
• 24:03
  amazing.
• 24:04
  Yeah.
• 24:04
  When
• 24:05
  I
• 24:05
  got
• 24:05
  to
• 24:05
  Santiago,
• 24:06
  my
• 24:07
  husband
• 24:07
  was
• 24:07
  waiting
• 24:07
  for
• 24:08
  me.
• 24:08
  Yeah.
• 24:09
  That's
• 24:09
  so
• 24:09
  cool.
• 24:10
  Which
• 24:10
  is
• 24:10
  really
• 24:10
  nice.
• 24:11
  Yeah,
• 24:12
  that's.
• 24:12
  That's.
• 24:12
  I
• 24:12
  mean,
• 24:13
  you
• 24:13
  like.
• 24:13
  We
• 24:13
  both
• 24:14
  like
• 24:14
  challenges.
• 24:14
  We
• 24:14
  just
• 24:14
  like
• 24:15
  different
• 24:15
  kinds
• 24:15
  of
• 24:15
  challenges
• 24:16
  from
• 24:16
  each
• 24:16
  other.
• 24:16
  But.
• 24:17
  Yeah.
• 24:17
  But
• 24:17
  yeah,
• 24:18
  you
• 24:18
  enjoy
• 24:18
  a
• 24:18
  challenge
• 24:19
  and
• 24:19
  it's
• 24:19
  fun
• 24:19
  to
• 24:20
  plan
• 24:20
  a
• 24:20
  trip
• 24:20
  and.
• 24:21
  Or
• 24:21
  at
• 24:23
  the
• 24:23
  project
• 24:24
  and
• 24:25
  make
• 24:25
  it
• 24:25
  happen.
• 24:26
  Yeah,
• 24:27
  that's
• 24:27
  really
• 24:27
  cool.
• 24:29
  Yeah.
• 24:29
  So,
• 24:30
  yeah,
• 24:30
  I
• 24:30
  do
• 24:30
  love
• 24:30
  a
• 24:31
  challenge.
• 24:32
  And
• 24:32
  you,
• 24:34
  like
• 24:34
  you
• 24:34
  said,
• 24:35
  also
• 24:35
  love
• 24:36
  a
• 24:36
  challenge,
• 24:36
  but
• 24:36
  a
• 24:37
  different
• 24:37
  kind.
• 24:37
  Yeah.
• 24:38
  How
• 24:38
  many
• 24:39
  postcards
• 24:39
  did
• 24:40
  you
• 24:40
  write?
• 24:41
  Oh,
• 24:41
  I
• 24:41
  don't.
• 24:41
  I've
• 24:42
  written
• 24:42
  over
• 24:42
  4,000,
• 24:43
  but
• 24:45
  to
• 24:45
  voters.
• 24:47
  Yeah,
• 24:47
  I
• 24:47
  don't
• 24:47
  really
• 24:48
  know,
• 24:48
  actually.
• 24:48
  I
• 24:49
  kind
• 24:49
  of
• 24:49
  forgot,
• 24:49
  but
• 24:49
  it's
• 24:50
  over
• 24:50
  4,000.
• 24:50
  Yeah.
• 24:51
  So
• 24:51
  I
• 24:51
  enjoyed
• 24:52
  making
• 24:52
  that,
• 24:52
  trying
• 24:52
  to
• 24:53
  make
• 24:53
  that
• 24:53
  little
• 24:53
  bit
• 24:53
  of
• 24:53
  a
• 24:53
  difference
• 24:54
  in
• 24:55
  the
• 24:56
  world.
• 24:56
  And
• 24:57
  I
• 24:57
  love
• 24:57
  my
• 24:57
  100
• 24:58
  day
• 24:58
  dress
• 24:58
  challenge.
• 24:59
  Well.
• 24:59
  And
• 25:00
  all
• 25:00
  the
• 25:00
  subsequent
• 25:00
  dress
• 25:01
  challenges
• 25:01
  that
• 25:02
  I've
• 25:03
  done
• 25:03
  with
• 25:03
  the
• 25:04
  Wooland
• 25:05
  company
• 25:06
  to
• 25:06
  wear,
• 25:06
  you
• 25:07
  turned
• 25:07
  me
• 25:07
  onto
• 25:07
  that.
• 25:08
  Like,
• 25:08
  so
• 25:09
  I
• 25:09
  did
• 25:09
  turn
• 25:09
  you
• 25:09
  on
• 25:09
  to
• 25:10
  Woolland.
• 25:11
  And
• 25:12
  like
• 25:13
  so
• 25:13
  many
• 25:13
  of
• 25:13
  the
• 25:13
  things
• 25:14
  I
• 25:14
  turned
• 25:14
  you
• 25:15
  on
• 25:15
  to,
• 25:15
  you
• 25:16
  embraced
• 25:17
  it
• 25:17
  wholeheartedly
• 25:18
  and
• 25:18
  have
• 25:18
  continued
• 25:19
  with
• 25:20
  it.
• 25:20
  And
• 25:20
  I
• 25:21
  have
• 25:21
  left
• 25:22
  it
• 25:22
  and
• 25:22
  gone
• 25:22
  on
• 25:23
  to
• 25:23
  do
• 25:23
  something.
• 25:23
  I
• 25:23
  mean,
• 25:24
  but
• 25:24
  with
• 25:24
  wool,
• 25:26
  I
• 25:26
  didn't,
• 25:27
  you
• 25:27
  know,
• 25:28
  just
• 25:28
  decide
• 25:29
  I
• 25:29
  couldn't
• 25:29
  wear
• 25:30
  it.
• 25:31
  You've
• 25:31
  grown
• 25:31
  too
• 25:32
  sensitive
• 25:32
  to
• 25:32
  wool
• 25:33
  and
• 25:33
  cannot
• 25:33
  wear
• 25:33
  wool.
• 25:34
  It's
• 25:34
  so
• 25:34
  sad
• 25:34
  to
• 25:34
  me,
• 25:35
  which
• 25:35
  makes
• 25:35
  me
• 25:35
  really
• 25:36
  sad.
• 25:36
  Yeah.
• 25:37
  Because
• 25:37
  I
• 25:37
  love
• 25:37
  it
• 25:37
  so
• 25:37
  much.
• 25:38
  So
• 25:38
  when
• 25:38
  you
• 25:38
  told
• 25:38
  me
• 25:39
  about
• 25:39
  it,
• 25:42
  we're
• 25:42
  on
• 25:42
  the
• 25:43
  phone,
• 25:43
  I
• 25:43
  think
• 25:43
  we
• 25:43
  were
• 25:44
  podcasting
• 25:45
  or
• 25:45
  getting
• 25:45
  ready
• 25:46
  to
• 25:46
  record,
• 25:47
  and
• 25:47
  I
• 25:48
  looked
• 25:48
  it
• 25:48
  up
• 25:48
  and
• 25:49
  saw
• 25:49
  this
• 25:49
  dress.
• 25:50
  100
• 25:50
  days,
• 25:50
  wear
• 25:51
  it
• 25:51
  for
• 25:51
  100
• 25:51
  days
• 25:51
  in
• 25:52
  a
• 25:52
  row.
• 25:52
  I'm
• 25:52
  like,
• 25:52
  I
• 25:52
  like
• 25:53
  that
• 25:53
  I
• 25:54
  don't
• 25:54
  have
• 25:54
  to
• 25:54
  think
• 25:54
  about
• 25:55
  what
• 25:55
  to
• 25:55
  wear
• 25:55
  for
• 25:55
  100
• 25:55
  days.
• 25:56
  Bought
• 25:56
  it,
• 25:57
  wore
• 25:57
  it
• 25:57
  the
• 25:57
  day
• 25:58
  it
• 25:58
  arrived,
• 25:58
  and
• 25:59
  wore
• 25:59
  it
• 25:59
  every
• 26:00
  day
• 26:00
  for
• 26:00
  100
• 26:00
  days.
• 26:02
  And
• 26:02
  now
• 26:02
  that's
• 26:02
  all
• 26:02
  I
• 26:03
  wear,
• 26:03
  is
• 26:03
  those
• 26:03
  clothes.
• 26:04
  But
• 26:04
  I
• 26:04
  don't
• 26:04
  wear
• 26:04
  that
• 26:04
  particular
• 26:05
  dress.
• 26:05
  And
• 26:06
  although
• 26:06
  I
• 26:06
  still
• 26:06
  have
• 26:06
  it,
• 26:07
  but
• 26:07
  it
• 26:07
  looked
• 26:07
  just
• 26:08
  like
• 26:08
  this
• 26:08
  dress,
• 26:08
  except
• 26:09
  it
• 26:09
  was
• 26:09
  black.
• 26:09
  Yeah.
• 26:10
  Yeah.
• 26:10
  It's
• 26:10
  a
• 26:10
  very
• 26:10
  simple
• 26:11
  dress.
• 26:11
  Yeah.
• 26:13
  So
• 26:13
  I
• 26:13
  appreciate
• 26:14
  Your.
• 26:14
  You,
• 26:14
  like,
• 26:14
  you
• 26:14
  changed
• 26:15
  my
• 26:16
  whole
• 26:17
  sartorial
• 26:18
  life
• 26:18
  with
• 26:18
  that
• 26:19
  suggestion.
• 26:21
  Yes.
• 26:21
  Because
• 26:22
  now
• 26:22
  you've,
• 26:22
  like,
• 26:23
  everything
• 26:23
  you
• 26:24
  wear
• 26:24
  is
• 26:25
  natural
• 26:26
  fibers,
• 26:26
  primarily
• 26:27
  wool.
• 26:28
  Right.
• 26:28
  And
• 26:29
  you
• 26:29
  wear
• 26:29
  wool
• 26:29
  every
• 26:30
  day.
• 26:30
  Right?
• 26:32
  Yeah.
• 26:32
  It's
• 26:33
  August
• 26:33
  in
• 26:33
  St.
• 26:34
  Louis,
• 26:34
  and
• 26:34
  it's
• 26:34
  in
• 26:34
  the
• 26:35
  90s
• 26:35
  and
• 26:35
  humid,
• 26:36
  and
• 26:36
  I'm
• 26:36
  wearing
• 26:36
  wool.
• 26:38
  Yes.
• 26:38
  I
• 26:39
  remember
• 26:39
  that
• 26:39
  when
• 26:40
  I
• 26:40
  was
• 26:40
  there
• 26:42
  a
• 26:42
  year
• 26:42
  ago,
• 26:43
  and
• 26:44
  it
• 26:44
  was
• 26:45
  unbelievably
• 26:46
  hot
• 26:46
  and
• 26:47
  humid,
• 26:48
  and
• 26:50
  I
• 26:52
  cannot.
• 26:52
  It
• 26:53
  doesn't
• 26:53
  matter
• 26:53
  what
• 26:53
  I'm
• 26:53
  wearing.
• 26:54
  It's
• 26:54
  uncomfortable.
• 26:55
  And
• 26:55
  you
• 26:55
  had
• 26:56
  on
• 26:56
  wool,
• 26:56
  but
• 26:57
  it's
• 26:57
  merino
• 26:58
  wool,
• 26:58
  breathable.
• 26:59
  Blah,
• 26:59
  blah,
• 26:59
  blah.
• 27:00
  You
• 27:00
  know,
• 27:00
  it's
• 27:00
  not.
• 27:01
  I
• 27:01
  was
• 27:01
  wearing
• 27:01
  this.
• 27:01
  I
• 27:02
  wore
• 27:02
  a
• 27:02
  sleeveless
• 27:02
  dress
• 27:03
  today
• 27:03
  when
• 27:03
  I
• 27:03
  walked
• 27:03
  Bix.
• 27:04
  That
• 27:04
  was
• 27:05
  a
• 27:05
  sleeveless
• 27:05
  wool
• 27:06
  dress.
• 27:06
  But,
• 27:08
  yeah,
• 27:09
  it's
• 27:09
  just
• 27:09
  how
• 27:09
  it
• 27:09
  is
• 27:10
  for
• 27:10
  me.
• 27:10
  It's
• 27:11
  great.
• 27:11
  And
• 27:12
  people
• 27:12
  think.
• 27:13
  I
• 27:13
  mean,
• 27:13
  think
• 27:13
  it's
• 27:14
  a
• 27:14
  little
• 27:14
  crazy,
• 27:15
  but,
• 27:16
  you
• 27:16
  know,
• 27:16
  and
• 27:17
  also
• 27:17
  bare
• 27:17
  legs.
• 27:18
  I'm
• 27:18
  wearing
• 27:18
  bare
• 27:18
  legs,
• 27:19
  so
• 27:20
  that's
• 27:20
  something.
• 27:21
  That's
• 27:21
  a
• 27:21
  concussion,
• 27:22
  too.
• 27:22
  Yeah.
• 27:25
  But,
• 27:25
  yeah,
• 27:25
  you
• 27:25
  started.
• 27:26
  You
• 27:26
  told
• 27:27
  me
• 27:27
  you
• 27:27
  were
• 27:27
  gonna
• 27:27
  start
• 27:27
  knitting.
• 27:28
  You
• 27:28
  had
• 27:28
  some
• 27:28
  friends
• 27:29
  you
• 27:29
  were
• 27:29
  knitting
• 27:29
  with.
• 27:29
  I'm
• 27:29
  like,
• 27:30
  that
• 27:30
  sounds
• 27:30
  like
• 27:30
  fun.
• 27:30
  And
• 27:31
  so
• 27:31
  I
• 27:32
  started
• 27:32
  knitting,
• 27:32
  and
• 27:33
  I'm
• 27:33
  still
• 27:33
  knitting.
• 27:33
  And
• 27:33
  that
• 27:34
  was
• 27:34
  10,
• 27:35
  20
• 27:36
  years
• 27:36
  ago.
• 27:37
  20
• 27:37
  years
• 27:37
  ago.
• 27:38
  Yeah.
• 27:38
  So,
• 27:38
  yeah.
• 27:39
  You
• 27:39
  turned
• 27:39
  me
• 27:39
  on
• 27:39
  dolls,
• 27:39
  and
• 27:40
  I
• 27:40
  knit
• 27:41
  two
• 27:41
  things.
• 27:45
  Yeah.
• 27:46
  Yeah.
• 27:48
  Since.
• 27:49
  Yeah.
• 27:50
  You
• 27:50
  turned
• 27:50
  me
• 27:50
  on
• 27:50
  to
• 27:50
  Ynab,
• 27:52
  and
• 27:52
  we're
• 27:52
  both
• 27:53
  still
• 27:53
  doing
• 27:53
  that.
• 27:54
  We
• 27:55
  are
• 27:55
  both
• 27:55
  still
• 27:55
  doing
• 27:55
  that.
• 27:56
  It
• 27:56
  took
• 27:56
  a
• 27:57
  while
• 27:57
  to
• 27:57
  get
• 27:57
  you
• 27:58
  to
• 27:58
  embrace
• 27:58
  it.
• 27:59
  It
• 27:59
  took
• 27:59
  so.
• 28:00
  It
• 28:00
  took
• 28:00
  years
• 28:01
  to
• 28:01
  get
• 28:01
  me
• 28:01
  to
• 28:01
  embrace
• 28:02
  it,
• 28:02
  I
• 28:02
  think.
• 28:03
  Yeah.
• 28:03
  Yeah.
• 28:04
  But,
• 28:05
  boy,
• 28:06
  now
• 28:06
  how
• 28:06
  much
• 28:06
  do
• 28:06
  you
• 28:06
  love
• 28:07
  it?
• 28:07
  I
• 28:07
  love
• 28:08
  it
• 28:08
  to
• 28:08
  the
• 28:08
  universe
• 28:09
  and
• 28:09
  back.
• 28:12
  I
• 28:12
  love
• 28:13
  it
• 28:13
  so
• 28:13
  much
• 28:14
  that,
• 28:15
  like,
• 28:15
  you,
• 28:15
  I've
• 28:16
  taken
• 28:16
  training
• 28:16
  to
• 28:16
  help
• 28:17
  other
• 28:17
  people
• 28:17
  with
• 28:17
  Ynab,
• 28:18
  and,
• 28:19
  yeah,
• 28:19
  it
• 28:19
  is.
• 28:20
  It
• 28:20
  changed
• 28:21
  my
• 28:21
  financial
• 28:21
  life
• 28:22
  and
• 28:22
  really
• 28:22
  so
• 28:23
  much
• 28:23
  around
• 28:24
  my
• 28:25
  emotional
• 28:25
  life
• 28:25
  because
• 28:25
  I
• 28:25
  used
• 28:26
  to
• 28:26
  have
• 28:26
  so
• 28:26
  much
• 28:26
  stress
• 28:26
  about
• 28:27
  money
• 28:27
  that
• 28:27
  I
• 28:27
  no
• 28:28
  longer
• 28:28
  have,
• 28:29
  thanks
• 28:29
  to
• 28:29
  this
• 28:29
  amazing
• 28:30
  app
• 28:30
  and
• 28:30
  philosophies.
• 28:31
  Basically,
• 28:33
  I
• 28:33
  have
• 28:33
  a
• 28:33
  policy
• 28:34
  that
• 28:34
  if
• 28:34
  you
• 28:34
  suggest
• 28:35
  something
• 28:35
  for
• 28:35
  me,
• 28:36
  I'll
• 28:36
  do
• 28:37
  it.
• 28:37
  Unless
• 28:37
  it.
• 28:37
  I
• 28:37
  mean,
• 28:38
  because
• 28:38
  I
• 28:38
  trust
• 28:38
  you
• 28:38
  now
• 28:39
  so
• 28:39
  much.
• 28:39
  Like
• 28:40
  you
• 28:40
  would
• 28:40
  never
• 28:40
  suggest
• 28:40
  I
• 28:40
  go
• 28:41
  climb
• 28:41
  a
• 28:41
  mountain
• 28:41
  so
• 28:41
  I
• 28:42
  don't
• 28:42
  have
• 28:42
  to
• 28:42
  worry
• 28:42
  about
• 28:42
  that.
• 28:42
  No.
• 28:43
  So
• 28:43
  if
• 28:43
  you
• 28:43
  think
• 28:44
  it
• 28:44
  would
• 28:44
  be
• 28:44
  good
• 28:44
  for
• 28:45
  me,
• 28:45
  I
• 28:45
  know
• 28:45
  it
• 28:46
  would
• 28:46
  be.
• 28:46
  And
• 28:46
  it's
• 28:47
  the
• 28:47
  key
• 28:47
  to
• 28:47
  my
• 28:47
  success.
• 28:50
  If
• 28:51
  I.
• 28:51
  If
• 28:51
  I
• 28:52
  tell
• 28:52
  you
• 28:52
  to
• 28:52
  do
• 28:52
  it,
• 28:53
  I'll
• 28:54
  do
• 28:54
  it.
• 28:54
  And
• 28:54
  then.
• 28:55
  And
• 28:55
  then
• 28:55
  I'm
• 28:56
  successful,
• 28:56
  so.
• 28:58
  Plus,
• 28:58
  you
• 28:58
  were.
• 28:58
  You
• 28:59
  were
• 28:59
  my
• 28:59
  life
• 28:59
  coach
• 29:00
  and.
• 29:01
  Right.
• 29:01
  I
• 29:01
  was
• 29:02
  one
• 29:02
  of
• 29:02
  your
• 29:02
  first
• 29:02
  clients,
• 29:03
  I
• 29:03
  believe.
• 29:04
  Yeah.
• 29:04
  And
• 29:04
  we
• 29:04
  Don't.
• 29:05
  Thanks
• 29:05
  to
• 29:05
  you
• 29:06
  getting
• 29:06
  my
• 29:06
  head
• 29:06
  screwed
• 29:07
  on
• 29:07
  so
• 29:07
  tight,
• 29:07
  I
• 29:07
  don't
• 29:08
  have
• 29:08
  to
• 29:08
  use
• 29:09
  your
• 29:10
  overt
• 29:10
  services
• 29:10
  that
• 29:11
  often.
• 29:11
  I
• 29:12
  don't
• 29:12
  have
• 29:12
  to
• 29:12
  schedule
• 29:12
  a
• 29:12
  session
• 29:13
  very
• 29:13
  often.
• 29:13
  But,
• 29:14
  yeah,
• 29:15
  I
• 29:15
  owe
• 29:15
  it
• 29:15
  all
• 29:16
  to
• 29:16
  Shannon.
• 29:18
  Well,
• 29:18
  thank
• 29:19
  you.
• 29:19
  You're
• 29:19
  welcome.
• 29:19
  I
• 29:20
  think
• 29:20
  there's
• 29:20
  a
• 29:21
  lot
• 29:21
  more
• 29:21
  to
• 29:21
  it
• 29:21
  than
• 29:22
  that
• 29:23
  because
• 29:23
  you
• 29:24
  have
• 29:24
  this
• 29:24
  tremendous
• 29:28
  ability
• 29:28
  that
• 29:29
  I
• 29:30
  am
• 29:31
  envious
• 29:31
  of,
• 29:32
  of
• 29:32
  sticking
• 29:32
  with
• 29:33
  things
• 29:35
  and.
• 29:36
  But
• 29:36
  only
• 29:36
  fun
• 29:37
  things.
• 29:39
  Well,
• 29:39
  yeah,
• 29:40
  right,
• 29:41
  of
• 29:41
  course.
• 29:43
  I
• 29:43
  mean,
• 29:45
  duh.
• 29:46
  That's
• 29:47
  our
• 29:47
  philosophy
• 29:47
  here
• 29:48
  at
• 29:48
  getting
• 29:49
  to
• 29:49
  good
• 29:49
  enough.
• 29:50
  And
• 29:50
  in
• 29:50
  a
• 29:50
  future
• 29:51
  episode,
• 29:51
  I
• 29:52
  would
• 29:52
  love
• 29:52
  to
• 29:52
  have
• 29:52
  talk
• 29:53
  with
• 29:53
  you
• 29:54
  about
• 29:55
  motivating
• 29:56
  me
• 29:56
  to
• 29:56
  do
• 29:56
  some
• 29:57
  things.
• 29:57
  Things
• 29:57
  that
• 29:58
  are
• 29:58
  good
• 29:58
  for
• 29:59
  me
• 29:59
  but
• 29:59
  less
• 29:59
  fun.
• 30:01
  Yes.
• 30:01
  Well,
• 30:01
  I
• 30:01
  was
• 30:02
  going
• 30:02
  to
• 30:02
  say
• 30:02
  that
• 30:04
  sometimes
• 30:05
  fun,
• 30:06
  particularly
• 30:07
  as
• 30:08
  we've
• 30:09
  described
• 30:09
  the
• 30:10
  things
• 30:10
  that
• 30:10
  I
• 30:11
  have
• 30:11
  a
• 30:11
  tendency
• 30:12
  to
• 30:12
  do,
• 30:13
  I
• 30:13
  find
• 30:14
  challenging
• 30:14
  things
• 30:15
  fun.
• 30:15
  Like
• 30:16
  physically
• 30:16
  challenging
• 30:17
  things.
• 30:18
  I
• 30:19
  like
• 30:19
  to
• 30:19
  try
• 30:19
  new
• 30:19
  things
• 30:20
  and
• 30:21
  I
• 30:21
  like
• 30:21
  it
• 30:22
  to
• 30:22
  be.
• 30:25
  Hard.
• 30:25
  Like,
• 30:26
  I'm
• 30:26
  not
• 30:26
  100
• 30:27
  sure
• 30:27
  that
• 30:28
  I
• 30:28
  could
• 30:28
  do
• 30:28
  it,
• 30:28
  but
• 30:28
  I'm
• 30:29
  pretty
• 30:29
  sure
• 30:29
  that
• 30:30
  I
• 30:30
  can
• 30:30
  do
• 30:30
  it.
• 30:30
  Like,
• 30:30
  I
• 30:31
  know
• 30:31
  it's
• 30:31
  possible.
• 30:31
  You're
• 30:32
  talking
• 30:32
  physically.
• 30:33
  Yeah.
• 30:34
  Yeah.
• 30:34
  Right.
• 30:35
  Wow.
• 30:35
  I
• 30:35
  mean,
• 30:35
  it's
• 30:36
  been
• 30:36
  primarily
• 30:36
  physical,
• 30:37
  but
• 30:38
  sometimes
• 30:39
  it's
• 30:39
  writing
• 30:39
  a
• 30:40
  novel
• 30:40
  in
• 30:40
  a
• 30:40
  month.
• 30:41
  Oh,
• 30:41
  yeah.
• 30:42
  Oh,
• 30:43
  this
• 30:43
  is
• 30:43
  the
• 30:43
  year.
• 30:43
  I
• 30:44
  think
• 30:44
  if
• 30:44
  we're
• 30:44
  gonna
• 30:45
  keep
• 30:45
  our
• 30:45
  schedule.
• 30:46
  Oh,
• 30:47
  my
• 30:47
  gosh.
• 30:47
  We
• 30:48
  write
• 30:48
  it.
• 30:48
  We
• 30:48
  write
• 30:48
  a
• 30:48
  novel
• 30:49
  every
• 30:49
  five
• 30:49
  years,
• 30:50
  right?
• 30:50
  I
• 30:50
  think
• 30:51
  so.
• 30:51
  And
• 30:51
  I
• 30:51
  think
• 30:51
  this.
• 30:52
  Yeah,
• 30:52
  this
• 30:52
  might
• 30:52
  be
• 30:52
  it.
• 30:53
  I
• 30:54
  know
• 30:54
  I
• 30:54
  haven't
• 30:54
  written
• 30:54
  one
• 30:54
  in
• 30:55
  a
• 30:55
  while.
• 30:55
  We
• 30:56
  don't
• 30:56
  have
• 30:56
  to
• 30:56
  do
• 30:56
  it,
• 30:56
  though.
• 30:57
  Oh,
• 30:57
  the
• 30:57
  last
• 30:57
  one
• 30:57
  we
• 30:58
  did,
• 30:58
  I
• 30:58
  think,
• 30:58
  was
• 30:58
  2020.
• 30:59
  We
• 30:59
  like
• 30:59
  a
• 31:00
  challenge,
• 31:00
  but
• 31:01
  I
• 31:01
  don't
• 31:01
  like
• 31:01
  a
• 31:01
  physical
• 31:02
  challenge.
• 31:02
  I
• 31:02
  like
• 31:02
  a
• 31:02
  mental
• 31:03
  challenge
• 31:03
  a
• 31:03
  lot
• 31:03
  or
• 31:04
  a
• 31:04
  discipline
• 31:04
  challenge,
• 31:05
  but
• 31:06
  physical
• 31:06
  challenges
• 31:07
  do
• 31:07
  not
• 31:08
  appeal
• 31:08
  to
• 31:08
  me.
• 31:12
  I'm
• 31:12
  glad
• 31:13
  that
• 31:13
  we
• 31:13
  have
• 31:14
  our
• 31:14
  separate
• 31:14
  stuff
• 31:15
  we
• 31:15
  do
• 31:15
  and
• 31:16
  so
• 31:16
  much
• 31:16
  that
• 31:17
  we
• 31:17
  have
• 31:17
  in
• 31:17
  common
• 31:18
  because
• 31:19
  that's
• 31:19
  what
• 31:20
  I
• 31:20
  think
• 31:21
  makes
• 31:21
  this
• 31:21
  podcast
• 31:22
  so
• 31:23
  fun
• 31:23
  and
• 31:23
  interesting.
• 31:24
  Yeah.
• 31:24
  Yeah,
• 31:25
  you're
• 31:25
  right.
• 31:26
  It
• 31:26
  makes
• 31:26
  it
• 31:26
  so
• 31:26
  much
• 31:27
  fun
• 31:27
  for
• 31:27
  us
• 31:28
  to
• 31:28
  talk
• 31:28
  to
• 31:28
  each
• 31:28
  other
• 31:29
  in
• 31:30
  a
• 31:30
  semi
• 31:30
  structured
• 31:32
  manner
• 31:32
  on
• 31:33
  a
• 31:33
  weekly
• 31:33
  basis.
• 31:34
  Yeah.
• 31:35
  Yeah.
• 31:36
  So
• 31:38
  to
• 31:38
  our
• 31:39
  listeners,
• 31:39
  if
• 31:39
  you
• 31:40
  have
• 31:41
  questions
• 31:41
  for
• 31:42
  us,
• 31:42
  you
• 31:42
  want
• 31:42
  to
• 31:43
  know
• 31:43
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• 31:43
  you,
• 31:44
  anything
• 31:45
  you're
• 31:45
  curious
• 31:45
  about,
• 31:46
  you
• 31:46
  can
• 31:47
  let
• 31:47
  us
• 31:47
  know
• 31:48
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• 31:48
  social
• 31:49
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• 31:50
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• 31:50
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• 31:50
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• 31:51
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• 31:51
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• 31:51
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• 31:52
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• 31:57
  have
• 31:57
  a
• 31:57
  phone
• 31:58
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• 31:59
  that
• 31:59
  people
• 32:00
  can
• 32:00
  call
• 32:00
  and
• 32:00
  leave
• 32:01
  a
• 32:01
  voice
• 32:01
  note,
• 32:01
  which
• 32:02
  is
• 32:02
  4134.
• 32:09
  Oh,
• 32:10
  I'm
• 32:10
  going
• 32:10
  to
• 32:10
  have
• 32:10
  to
• 32:10
  find
• 32:11
  out
• 32:11
  what
• 32:11
  it
• 32:11
  is.
• 32:14
  Keep
• 32:14
  talking.
• 32:15
  I'll
• 32:15
  look
• 32:15
  it
• 32:15
  up.
• 32:16
  But
• 32:16
  we're
• 32:16
  also
• 32:16
  on
• 32:18
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• 32:19
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• 32:19
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• 32:20
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• 32:21
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• 32:21
  at
• 32:22
  Getting
• 32:22
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• 32:22
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• 32:22
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• 32:23
  and
• 32:25
  we
• 32:25
  would
• 32:26
  love
• 32:26
  to
• 32:27
  hear
• 32:27
  from
• 32:27
  you.
• 32:28
  I
• 32:28
  have
• 32:28
  the
• 32:28
  phone
• 32:29
  number.
• 32:29
  Oh
• 32:30
  good.
• 32:30
  It's
• 32:31
  413-424.
• 32:33
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• 32:35
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• 32:36
  4843.
• 32:38
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• 32:38
  for
• 32:38
  joining
• 32:38
  us
• 32:39
  on
• 32:39
  Getting
• 32:39
  to
• 32:39
  Good
• 32:40
  Enough.
• 32:40
  We
• 32:40
  hope
• 32:40
  you
• 32:41
  heard
• 32:41
  something
• 32:41
  that
• 32:41
  makes
• 32:42
  your
• 32:42
  life
• 32:42
  just
• 32:43
  a
• 32:43
  little
• 32:43
  bit
• 32:43
  easier.
• 32:44
  If
• 32:44
  you
• 32:44
  did,
• 32:45
  leave
• 32:45
  us
• 32:45
  a
• 32:46
  review
• 32:46
  or
• 32:46
  share
• 32:47
  this
• 32:47
  with
• 32:47
  someone
• 32:47
  who's
• 32:48
  looking
• 32:48
  for
• 32:48
  their
• 32:48
  own
• 32:49
  version
• 32:49
  of
• 32:49
  Good
• 32:50
  Enough.
• 32:50
  Thanks
• 32:50
  for
• 32:50
  listening.
• 32:51
  See
• 32:51
  you
• 32:51
  soon.
• 33:01
  I
• 33:01
  was
• 33:02
  right.
• 33:02
  I
• 33:02
  was
• 33:02
  just
• 33:03
  afraid
• 33:03
  to
• 33:03
  say
• 33:03
  it
• 33:03
  wrong.
• 33:04
  Yeah,
• 33:04
  well,
• 33:05
  I
• 33:05
  guess
• 33:05
  wrong
• 33:05
  would
• 33:05
  have
• 33:05
  been
• 33:06
  worse
• 33:06
  than
• 33:06
  nothing,
• 33:06
  so.
• 33:07
  Yeah,
• 33:08
  that
• 33:08
  wrong
• 33:09
  would
• 33:09
  have
• 33:09
  been
• 33:09
  not
• 33:10
  good
• 33:10
  enough,
• 33:10
  right?
• 33:11
  Yeah,
• 33:11
  exactly.