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Best Top 25 matchups, Steven M. Sipple talks Huskers, Dalton Wasserman on football &Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  Power #2 Millery Condon Welcome back Iowa Sports Radio Network
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  housed at Des Moines sports station 106.3 KXNO We take you
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  until 2:00, turn things over and off the bench with Lucas and
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  Sean coming up to until fives coming up in No 10 minutes, 15
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  minutes. We'll give you 4 of you an
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  opportunity to win some grub from the chicken coop.
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  That will be all coming up about 20 minutes after.
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  Before we do that, we'll spend a few minutes with Stephen M
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  Sipple from the on three medium huskerillustrated.com.
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  It is a big one in Lincoln this weekend.
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  Houston Christian Houston Christian pays a visit.
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  Trent not. Getting you real excited to no.
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  Sound like no. They snuck by Arkansas Baptist
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  in week 169 to zip. OK, how bad are they?
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  Maybe UMass and Arkansas Baptists should have a get
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  together on the schedule. Well, we'll talk to SIP
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  nonetheless. We'll get the latest on the
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  Huskers coming up here and no, about 5 minutes or thereabouts.
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  Look forward to catching up with SIP each and every week.
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  So listening to Dave and about those Packers and are they the
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  team to beat in the North in your mind?
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  Yeah. I, it's, I think it's pretty
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  hard to poke a lot of holes in what we've seen the questions, a
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  wide receiver position. The one thing when we had this
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  conversation throughout the summer is we just had different
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  viewpoints of Jordan Love and WAS.
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  It for me. I kept going back to the injury
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  in week one in Brazil a year ago, that crappy field.
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  He wasn't right. I thought he was going to be
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  closer certainly last season to the guy that we saw at the end
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  of the year, the year previous than what we saw throughout.
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  And I still believed in the talent.
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  When you'd push back and say what about that wider Sievert
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  group and, and I get it, are they going to get Golden
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  involved? I would think, I mean, you know,
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  there was there. Remember how the bananas the
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  crowd went when they drafted a full?
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  Been over 2 decades since they had a wider siever in the first
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  round. I mean, that was that was one of
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  the highlights from the opening night of the draft was watching
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  Packer fans go crazy when they when they draft.
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  Yeah, the answer's they have to. I mean, he's he's incredibly
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  quick. They can run the football.
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  So did you learn more about the Packers or more about the Lions?
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  Because I look as I, I thought the Lions were still the team to
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  beat in the north. Dan Campbell's still there.
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  They didn't go outside the building to find coordinators,
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  guys that had been there and done that were part of the
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  system. They had so many injuries last
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  year that that I I couldn't quit the Lions for that, for that
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  reason. Now they play the Bears on
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  Sunday afternoon. A must win for both.
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  It's huge for both. I mean, the Bears would be oh,
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  and two in the division already if you fall on that one, as
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  would the Lions. And and what's the number 5 1/2?
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  I want to say something I hate. Fives.
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  I hate fives. Right in the middle it's up to 6
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  1/2. Isn't right now one spot?
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  Yeah, so the so the money's coming in on the Lions.
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  Short week maybe. I mean, what just how bad
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  Williams looked after the, you know, the second-half of the
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  football game. Let's see six at DraftKings.
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  Circa has it 5 1/2. There's a 6 1/2 out there at
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  FanDuel. So it's kind of floating around.
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  But yeah, it definitely looks like a plenty of Lions money
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  that is starting to come in on that front.
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  The Ragnar retirement. Which dude was 20?
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  9 No, I know. And.
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  Came out of nowhere because they lost Zettler too as well right?
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  You know, when that came up, I was more fixated on the loss of
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  both coordinators and maybe it should have been also a bigger
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  piece, at least for me, because that was not part of my handicap
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  in Detroit this year. It was my concerns about the
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  coordinators, but not that offensive line.
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  I mean, just look back at that box score in week one.
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  They couldn't run it all against Green Bay.
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  I mean when you finish. And they got 2 pretty good
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  running backs. David Montgomery, 11 carries for
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  25 yards, a long A6. What was Gibbs is long. 9 for 19
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  yards. He did have a 14 yarder.
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  That means in his other 8 carries.
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  Bottle them up five yards. How many?
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  How many catches for Aman Ross St.
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  Brown? 4 for 45.
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  That's it. It was a lot of Laporta.
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  Gibbs had 10 catches in the game for 31 yards.
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  Wow, what were Goff's overall numbers?
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  Padet, I mean, he's 31 to 39, so that can oh.
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  You think he had a pretty good game?
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  Did he hit 200? 225 and how many of those came
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  late with the Tesla catch in that end zone?
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  How he got that foot down, I'll have no idea, but he did.
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  Still, how many of those were in garbage time when the game was
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  hopelessly done? 39 attempts, only 225 yards.
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  That's concerning. There's a lot there and I think
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  it's something that we need to go back to that offensive line
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  that is a big, big class. Now had to move over from guard
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  to take the center spot. Zeitler's gone obviously you
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  mentioned Ragnos kind of out of nowhere to retire.
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  They still got penny Sewell, who's as good as there is or one
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  of the better players in the league.
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  I'm I I, I mean, obviously I'm dead wrong on how the north's
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  going to play out and I I don't think that there's any coming
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  back from that. Packers look really good, but so
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  does Washington Trent. I think this game is an absolute
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  coin flip tonight. Do you I?
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  Really do so you'd be grabbing the three.
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  I think. I think I probably would if I
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  was forced to bet it. I didn't see a play of
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  Washington and versus the Giants.
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  I didn't see one play. I was going a lot of places.
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  That wasn't one of my stops. And I'm not a red Zoner channel
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  but Debo looked good. Rejuvenated did he?
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  He had a touchdown run on an end around using him as that Swiss
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  army knife that they do and the running game look good.
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  You know they have that new kid with hyphenated name.
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  Yeah, it's not. It's not just Eckler, it's
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  another somebody else. There, Right?
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  Yeah. Eckler's still there.
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  Jacory Croskey Merritt. OK.
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  He was getting some buzz in the fantasy community, was he?
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  Yes. One of those two, Yep, was
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  McLaren. Rusty, I didn't see much of him.
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  In fact, I don't remember when I was watching seeing him even
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  target that I. Can I?
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  I saw Zach Ertz. Yep, had a touchdown.
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  He's good. I like that the that defence is
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  up front. They're good, at least they've
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  they were last year. Well, they're veteran they're
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  and it worked last year. The concern is though aging
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  veteran team. Well, Von Miller's got to be 40.
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  Well, I know he's not quite there yet, but he's been around
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  a long time. Bobby Wagner's What in his same?
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  Mid. 30s. How old's Von Miller?
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  Von Miller's 36. 36 Bobby Wagner is 35.
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  Both of them, right? Lot of experience between those
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  two cats. Super Bowl rings between those 2
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  cats. Marshawn Lattimore, he's pushing
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  30 now. It just over the course of the
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  year and that was another reason I was a little bit more down on
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  Washington. But this will be a fun game
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  tonight, I think. It will be too.
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  I'm with you and and again, 3 1/2 Amazon bar Prime's got it.
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  It's a great it's a great lid lifter for Thursday Night
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  Football. Packers and Washington again, if
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  you can't be in front of your TV if you're driving around central
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  Iowa here tonight as it is on Des Moines sports station 106.3
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  KXNO. I think it's probably as the
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  number one radio package that's available out there.
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  Westwood ones, game broadcast, having the rights to those, you
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  know, Thursday Night Football, Sunday night, Monday night.
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  But then it's the playoffs, right?
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  It's wild card divisional. Look, everybody's going to watch
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  their TV if they can. I understand that some people
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  don't have that ability. So we're working, you know, some
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  are driving around, driving kids, picking up kids, whatever.
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  It's just good to have it. So we will air that game tonight
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  immediately following Cyclone Insider that airs tonight at at
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  6:00. All right, we will do the
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  chicken coop giveaway coming up here, 3 locations for the
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  chicken coop. We'll give you your cue to call
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  at that time. They're the locations West Des
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  Moines, 60th and Ashworth. They're in Urbandale, 12725
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  Meredith and in Ankeny, just South of the D Mac campus.
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  So this weekend in college football, we haven't talked a
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  lot about some of the national games headliner, Notre Dame,
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  Texas A and MI Think we touched on that one just a little bit.
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  What else intrigues you this weekend though?
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  Is there anything else? LSU.
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  Florida, I'm into that one. I want to see that game, 'cause
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  I think LSU is a pretty damn good football team.
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  Yes, I think they are. Obviously the Notre Dame game is
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  massive because they can't. They can't lose back-to-back
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  games. I don't think.
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  I don't think that they can. Do you have any intrigue with
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  the USF Miami game? Not really.
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  You don't think it's going to be a game?
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  No, I'm not saying that that's that's the game on CW.
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  Yep. 3:30 Central kickoff. The night game obviously got to
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  watch you Iowa UMass, you know, maybe the game that I'm looking
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  more forward to most. If I could only pick one and
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  it's it's it's a tier, but below the, you know, the the five
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  stars. Yes, I think I know where you're
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  going, where Arkansas will miss. No, that's that's not it.
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  Normally I would be. It's Minnesota Cal.
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  I like this freshman quarterback for Cal.
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  Don't ask me to say his name. JK.
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  What's his last name? Start with SJK something.
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  He's a freshman from Hawaii, can really Chuck it around and I
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  think Minnesota's pretty good. Saga Pilote.
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  Saga Pulalote or something like. That Duran Kiwi saga pulote.
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  Cave. The W is is pronounced as AV.
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  Cave kave, Charan kave saga, Pulotelli.
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  That's it. Boom, well done.
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  Just took two shots. Sangapolotelli.
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  I think he's pretty good player. So yeah, that that one's on that
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  one's on my list is that'll be the game that I'm starting to
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  nod off in my chair when we get to that one at some point,
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  'cause that's a 930 kick. ESPN has that one.
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  All right, let's get a a quick call in here, then we'll we'll
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  open up the phone lines. Let's get Jim.
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  He's found a college game. Who did we miss?
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  Jim, who do you want to watch? Georgia, Tennessee.
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  Oh, that's good. Just.
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  Took Tennessee. I just took Tennessee money
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  line. It's 3 1/2 right now.
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  So why do you like Tennessee? At Tennessee, I'm not sold on
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  Georgia's quarterback. No one nor mine.
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  Offense. Yeah.
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  Are you sold on Tennessee's quarterback?
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  No, but being at home. Yeah.
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  I think that's going to be the difference.
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  So and I called in early so someone else can win those
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  chicken coop tickets. I've won them too many times.
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  That a? Boy, You're pretty good at this.
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  So who's George? George is without their two
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  starting cornerbacks, correct? Is that why the number
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  plummeted? Oh yeah.
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  I think so. At least one for sure.
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  And that game's 230 ABC. 230 ABC.
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  Yep, Yep. Gotcha.
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  All right, buddy. Thank you, Jim.
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  Enjoy the game. You bet.
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  Good luck to you. More you bet, the more you win.
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  All right, let's get Sip for a couple of minutes in here.
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  Sip, I missed you early. We only got a couple of minutes
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  left, but after all, it's Houston Baptist.
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  Is that or Houston Christian? Who the hell is the Nebraska
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  playing this week? They used to be they used to be
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  Houston Baptist. It was until 2021.
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  Okay then they then they changed the Houston Christian all.
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  Right. So it's kind of both, right?
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  Yeah, I I can't wait for these these games to get oversip.
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  I really can't. Let's let's bring on the big 10,
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  right. I know that I I you glean
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  something from it, obviously in teams, workout kinks, etcetera,
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  etcetera. But going out to cover a game
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  like this, you kind of know what how it's going to end already,
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  right? Or do you?
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  Well, yeah, you do. I mean, excuse me.
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  Gosh, I would tell you this, I do have a little bit of insight
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  or more insight than I normally would about Houston Christian
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  because I was there for Nebraska, actually had coaches
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  in the satellite camp last summer at Houston Christian.
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  So I spent 2 full days at Houston Christian and I would
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  tell listeners this, if if you're there, if you're standing
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  in that, what I would, I'll call it a stadium, but it's just, you
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  know, it's a field with bleachers.
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  I mean, and you're, you're on that campus that you really you
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  fully understand how stark the difference is between Iowa, the
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  big money, Big 10 and then this this program that's coming in.
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  It's, and I guess the, and I've said that I'm over here this
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  week when you're there and you're standing there and you're
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  in the, you're, you're on their field and you're standing by a
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  fence and 15 feet away as ACVS Pharmacy.
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  You just, you just realized this game shouldn't happen and it
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  just, it really shouldn't. It did.
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  And you know what? I don't mind if the AD doesn't
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  like the last day. It is what it is.
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  I don't think the game should happen, but it's going to
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  happen. Nebraska will win by a big
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  number, and maybe we'll learn stuff and maybe we won't.
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  Sippy, my favorite or my most intriguing thing this week has
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  really nothing to do with this game.
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  It's looking forward to the Michigan game and Biff Pogy is
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  going to be mating the sidelines.
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  A guy that is a piece of work at the very least.
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  If you saw him at Charlotte, remember his son being recruited
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  to That's the big dude. He's going to be the acting head
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  coach with Sharon Moore. Now, they made it so he wouldn't
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  have to miss the Oklahoma game. Of course, his alma mater, I
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  guess you understand that. But from the Nebraska
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  perspective, can you take this as a little bit of, I don't
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  know, a slap in the face, a motivation?
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  Hey, they think they need their coach for Oklahoma, but they
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  don't need it for US against the the Huskers.
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  Yeah, I do think there's that. That could be some, there could
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  be some level of motivation there.
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  I've had the big I I would just say this, it's it's significant.
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  I mean, take Kurt Ferenz off the sideline for a game and in fact,
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  not even have him available for the week of a game.
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  I know what people are probably going to say, you know,
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  snarkily, I know there's some struggle there, but I mean,
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  that's huge. He's Iowa.
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  He's that program. You take him off the silence.
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  There's a lot different feel. And it's I mean, I sit by a guy
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  every week, Bill Bush, who's been in those situations.
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  He says it's, it's a, it's a major factor when the head coach
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  isn't there. Everything's a little different.
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  So that what I'm telling you is it does work, in my opinion, in
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  Nebraska's faith. And you know, they'll need some
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  stuff like that. Sip, we will make sure that we
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  have a full 10 or 12 minutes for that game next week.
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  It's going to be a fascinating 1230 in the afternoon.
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  All right, buddy. Thanks, Sip.
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  We appreciate it. We'll grab you next week.
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  All right. Thanks for having me.
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  Good to talk to you, Stephen M Simple Husker Illustrated on
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  Three Media. All right, right now, if you'd
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  like to participate in the chicken Coop giveaway,
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  515-284-5966, 515-284-5966, We'll give you the questions,
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  you give us the answers. Get the most right.
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  You'll be off to the chicken goop with a $50.00 gift
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  certificate to use as you please.
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  The runner up gets 20 wings. Miller and Condon, Iowa Sports
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  Radio Network. Hi Milary Congdon welcome back
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  Iowa sports radio network flagship at Des Moines sports
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  station one O 6.3 KX and O Casey Cody Jack Ryan The tiebreaker
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  for all of you gentlemen is total points Sunday Night
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  Football Falcons at Vikings closest without going over.
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  All right Casey, you're up first.
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  Casey, how are you? Good.
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  How are you? Doing doing fine.
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  Green Bay tonight hosts Washington Green Bay's a 3 1/2
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  point favorite. Green Bay.
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  The Hawkeyes are 35 1/2 point favorites over UMass.
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  Give me UMass. Iowa State will give 20 1/2,
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  just under 3 touchdowns to Arkansas State.
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  Give me Arkansas State. Eagles Chiefs Eagles Point and a
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  half favorite. Give me eagles.
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  Sunday Night Football total points.
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  Casey Closest without going over. 45.
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  Thanks, Casey, appreciate it. Thank you.
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  You have a good weekend. Cody is with Miller and Condon.
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  Hi Cody, how we doing? Good Thursday Night Football
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  Packers 3 1/2 to Washington. Give me the Packers.
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  I with 35 1/2 to UMass, give me you man Iowa State, 20 1/2 point
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  favorite on the road at Arkansas State.
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  I'll take I state. Eagles Point and 1/2 to the
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  Chiefs on Sunday. I'll take the Chiefs.
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  Total points Sunday Night Football closest without going
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  over. 36. Thanks, Cody.
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  Enjoy the weekend. You too appreciate it.
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  Jack is up next. Hi, Jack.
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  Good afternoon fella. Good afternoon, Green Bay, 3 1/2
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  to Washington. I'm going to go Washington.
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  All right, the Hawkeyes give 35 1/2 to UMass.
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  There's no way the Hawkeyes cover that.
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  So UMass. OK, I don't disagree.
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  Arkansas State? No way.
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  I'm with you, dude. Arkansas State's getting 20 1/2
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  from Iowa State. I'll take the clown.
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  OK, Eagles a point and 1/2 to the Chiefs.
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  Eagles Sunday Night Football total points.
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  Jack Closest without going over. 44. 44 Jack, enjoy the games.
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  Thank you, bud. Appreciate it.
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  And Ryan is next. Hi, Ryan.
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  Yes, Sir. Green Bay's 3 1/2 to Washington
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  tonight. Green Bay.
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  Iowa 35 1/2 to UMass. I'm a Hawks fan, but they're not
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  going to cover UMass. Iowa State 20 1/2 over Arkansas
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  State. Iowa State.
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  Eagles a point and 1/2 to the Chiefs.
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  Chiefs Sunday Night Football Total points closest without
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  going over Ryan. 40. 5:45 Thank you, bud.
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  Appreciate it. Thank you.
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  Good to talk to you. Everybody took UMass.
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  Everybody took UMass last week. We had our first of the football
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  season, a consensus pick a week ago as everybody jumped aboard
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  with the Michigan Wolverines. This trend.
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  Is it's, it's, it's not that it's not unbeaten.
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  It's north of 70%. I did the math last football
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  season and at the time going back I think it was 2 years.
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  I look back upon consensus picks were under 30% hit rate ATS.
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  This is a try. If you're a trends player, that
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  means you're laying it with the Hawk.
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  Guy listening the elastic band off the egg off the wallet and
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  firing with both fists. Can you feel confident with
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  that? 35 1/2.
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  I know UMass is awful, but Albany was awful.
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  Yes, no, I think, look, I think Ference will run the football in
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  the fourth quarter knowing what lies ahead.
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  But don't you want to get Hank Brown a little action?
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  I would love to see a trend. I'd love to see him.
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  We get more than a little action and we may be headed in that
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  direction, who knows? We'll see next Friday night.
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  Man, oh man, get the conference play on the road at Rutgers.
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  Looking forward to that one. And the Big 10 is on as they'll
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  come home and play Indiana the following Saturday.
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  All right, we're going to talk to Dalton Wasserman here.
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  Momentarily covers the NFL. profootballfocus.com,
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  profootballfocus.com or is where you can find Dalton and all of
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  his terrific colleagues over there, profootballfocus.com.
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  For Dalton, we'll take a look at some of the bigger games of the
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  week with him. We'll get.
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  To the Eagles and the Chiefs, but I want to start, of course,
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  with Thursday Night Football and Dalton is with us.
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  Dalton Trenton, Ken, as always, thank you for finding time for
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  us here. We certainly appreciate it
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  statewide in the state of Iowa. How are you, Dalton?
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  First of all, good to talk to you.
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  Fantastic. We got NFL and college football
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  both rolling full speed. It's it's a busy season
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  obviously, but it's a whole lot of fun.
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  No, it really isn't. Starts tonight with I think a
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  just a terrific football game. Dalton, you could sell me on the
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  Packers. You could sell me on the
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  Commanders. I would I would listen to both.
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  I think this game is a coin flip.
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  I think you could sell me on both teams because I'm with you.
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  It's going to be a fantastic football game.
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  You've obviously got Jane Daniels and a jacked up offense
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  now with Laramie Tunsil and Debo Samuel and they're coming even
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  off a great defensive game. And then he got, I mean, just
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  how good did the Packers look last week with Micah Parsons in
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  the fold and Jordan Love? I was looking for a little bit
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  of a bounce back for him coming off of last season that was
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  inconsistent and he showed Step 1 of it last week.
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  I think it's a fantastic Thursday night game we have
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  tonight. And when you look at this game,
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  I mean, when you look forward, if we believe that both Green
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  Bay and Washington are going to be contenders this year, I mean,
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  the tiebreaker situation that very well could apply when we
• 21:36
  get late in the season, that could be absolutely huge for
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  this one. I want to go a little bit deeper
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  on the Commanders because I thought this was going to be a
• 21:44
  step back year. All the breaks that they got a
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  season to go, it was going to start to bounce the other way
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  maybe for Washington. Impressive performance.
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  They ran the football well against the Giants defense that
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  I really like. What do you look at Daniels in
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  year #2 do you believe that there's even another level that
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  he can go to this season? Yeah, I mean, it's, and then the
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  the next level you're talking about, and it's so rare to see
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  it so early in a guy's career is really that level of being in
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  the MVP conversation with with the Josh Allen's and Joe Burrows
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  and then Patrick Holmes and Lamar's and guys like that.
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  I mean, he's right behind those guys right now.
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  He could put together a season like that with the tools they
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  have on offense, with the ability he has to process
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  defenses with his legs and the way he can run the football and
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  really change the game that way or with his arm.
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  He's got everything you could ever ask for.
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  And I think the way we need to start talking about him is just
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  any given week when Jaden Daniels is on the field, that
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  team has a shot to win. It doesn't matter who the
• 22:37
  opponent is or the location or whatever.
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  You're never going to see a game where he doesn't go down
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  swinging. I think it's one of those
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  situations like Burrow, like Alan and those guys where, you
• 22:45
  know what, this guy could win any football game on any given
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  day. Yeah, he's he certainly looks as
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  though he's headed in that direction to start his career.
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  Well, let's get to the the big one on Sunday afternoon, 325
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  hour time in Kansas City, a GEHA field.
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  I'm told that's how you pronounce it, an Arrowhead
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  Stadium Super Bowl rematch. Eagles will have you would
• 23:05
  expect Jaylen Carter for a full game.
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  Chiefs coming off a loss over in Brazil.
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  This has a classic written all over it.
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  I think. I hope it lives up to it.
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  How do you see it, Dalton? I think the Chiefs defense needs
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  to play a lot better than it did last week if they're going to
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  try to win this game because the Chiefs are not going to win a
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  high scoring game right now. You're talking about a team with
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  Xavier Worthy possibly out this week.
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  Travis Kelce's obviously slowed down.
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  They don't have Rasheed Rice until the 7th game of the
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  season. There's just not much
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  explosiveness. This is death by 1000 paper cuts
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  in this offense. And then here and there, Mahomes
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  can do, you know, you can pull one of his miracle plays.
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  But they are not an explosive team.
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  They need to not get into the high 20s and 30s.
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  They need Steve Spagnolo's defense to step up more so than
• 23:47
  it did last week against the Chargers.
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  More intriguing games, an important one in the NFC North.
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  Two teams O and one already in the division.
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  Detroit, Chicago. Some good things early for
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  Chicago, a lot of bad late in that fourth quarter.
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  Detroit, well, they did something late in the fourth
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  quarter. But when they're hopelessly out
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  of it against the Packers, do you think the Bears can push
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  them here? And, and where's your concern
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  level with the team that ran away a year ago with the NFC?
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  Yeah, the Bears can absolutely push them.
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  I think on the whole, that's one of the hardest games to read all
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  weekend. I think it could go any
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  direction. The Lions offensively did not
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  look good last week. The Bears look good for a bit
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  and then slowed down late in the game.
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  Obviously blew the 17 to 6 lead. To me, that game is about which
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  team can run the football. The Lions have concerns on their
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  offensive line and obviously there's been a lot talked about
• 24:35
  without Ben Johnson, John Morton as their new offensive
• 24:37
  coordinator. But the Lions need get they need
• 24:39
  to get back to their physical brand of football on the
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  offensive line. And then the Bears, look, they
• 24:44
  don't have great running backs. The offensive line, especially
• 24:46
  in the inside, is new. I I think the team that comes
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  out and runs the football better in that game will win and takes
• 24:51
  the pressure off Jared Goff and Caleb Williams.
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  Whoever can do that the best, I think comes out on top.
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  Dalton, Full disclosure, I'm a Broncos fan.
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  I watched the Broncos last week take on the Titans.
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  I came away more impressed with Cam Ward than bone Knicks.
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  And then I'm a Knicks guy. But I was really impressed with
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  Cam Ward. Well, how did you guys kind of
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  rate his game at Pro Football Focus?
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  They host the Rams this week. I think they're a live dog.
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  Cam Ward's first start. How did you guys are Pro
• 25:18
  Football Focus see it? So Cam, there, there was some
• 25:21
  good throws in there. I'd say overall, when you look
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  at our grading, it comes out to some average grades.
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  And I think he was just under so much pressure.
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  He was under pressure 53% of the time in in that game.
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  So Cam, look, the word for him always for me has been fearless.
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  He is willing to throw in the tight windows.
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  He's willing to stand in the face of pressure.
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  But that team around him needs to be better.
• 25:40
  And that offensive line especially, and the one reason
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  maybe they're not as live and underdog is that if their own
• 25:46
  line doesn't play better, look, the Broncos D line dominate in
• 25:49
  them. Yeah, they're adverse and those
• 25:51
  guys coming to town from the Rams, and that's an absolute
• 25:53
  group of monsters in the pass rush.
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  So if they can protect him better, then you're on to
• 25:57
  something. But that it starts up front with
• 25:59
  that offensive line. They were not good last week.
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  Take it a step further, Ken was talking about your guys's
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  numbers over at PFF and give us a guy or two that maybe you'd be
• 26:08
  surprised by how they graded out when you were watching the game.
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  And then when you go through and take a look at the L22, give us
• 26:14
  their name or two this week that surprised you and their
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  performance in week #1. All right, I'll give you one.
• 26:20
  Our highest graded quarterback for the week actually was
• 26:23
  Matthew Stafford. And that might sound funny.
• 26:25
  He didn't put up gaudy passing totals and they only won the
• 26:27
  game 14 to 9. I'll tell you what, I'm we were
• 26:30
  too worried about this back injury or whatever was going on
• 26:33
  there. He made, I believe it was 5 big
• 26:35
  time throws, which are the highest graded throws on our on
• 26:37
  our scale that we put out. He was just incredible in that
• 26:41
  game. And the fact that that game was
• 26:42
  so close was really, really more about the mistakes on some other
• 26:46
  guys on the offense. That game could have been a lot,
• 26:48
  a wider score with the way Stafford Efford was throwing the
• 26:50
  ball. And I'll be honest with you, I
• 26:51
  believe the 6th or 7th highest graded quarterback was Justin
• 26:54
  Fields. Man, with The Jets, I mean,
• 26:56
  look, they came out, they ran the football well and he looks
• 26:58
  really good and comfortable in that offense.
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  I'm curious to see what they can carry that momentum into week
• 27:03
  two against Buffalo. Your thoughts on JJ McCarthy's
• 27:05
  performance on Monday night and then carry it forward to hosting
• 27:09
  the Falcons on Sunday Night Football.
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  McCarthy, Did his fourth quarter show you enough?
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  I mean, it showed you enough that he can get there.
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  Sure. I mean, the consistency has to
• 27:19
  get there. He only dropped back to throw
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  the ball 25 times. I think there was only 20
• 27:23
  attempts on the night. So it's kind of low volume.
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  And look at the kid making his first start.
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  And Kevin O'Connell did a fantastic job of guiding him
• 27:31
  through adversity. You know, our numbers are going
• 27:33
  to say exactly what you think about that football game.
• 27:35
  He was terrible in the 1st 3/4 and he was really good in the
• 27:38
  fourth quarter. And the fact that he gutted it
• 27:40
  out and found a way to win, that's a massive positive.
• 27:43
  So consistency is going to be a factor in something you're
• 27:45
  looking for from McCarthy. But the fact that he battled
• 27:48
  through that, that adversity to find a way to win that game, I,
• 27:50
  I think Kevin O'Connell just got to be so proud of that part of
• 27:53
  it. Dalton As you know, it doesn't
• 27:55
  matter where you are in the country, there's going to be
• 27:57
  Steelers fans all over the place, and there's a lot of them
• 27:59
  here, even in the upper Midwest. The Steelers Aaron Rodgers, 4
• 28:03
  touchdowns, 22 of 30 passing didn't look exactly nimble back
• 28:08
  there, but he was chucking it around and making some plays
• 28:11
  against The Jets team that at minimum he's got some dudes out
• 28:14
  there defensively. Your take away from that
• 28:16
  performance and if healthy, if we can see a good Aaron Rodgers
• 28:20
  through the course of an 18 game schedule.
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  Yeah, this has actually been a big point of contention this
• 28:25
  week with our grading because in our PFF grades, he didn't grade
• 28:28
  quite as high as you might think coming off a stat line like
• 28:30
  that. But you know, he he was
• 28:32
  efficient. I think what you saw was a
• 28:35
  different philosophy than Russell Wilson.
• 28:37
  Russell Wilson who was lying out, step back there and throw
• 28:39
  the ball deep downfield. Aaron Rodgers, what he's looking
• 28:42
  for is to just move the chains, complete the easier throws,
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  recognize the busts in coverage sometimes that The Jets were
• 28:48
  having. There was not good communication
• 28:50
  in The Jets secondary on a lot of plays and he took it.
• 28:52
  He's a quarterback at this age that what he's going to do is
• 28:55
  take advantage of the defenses mistakes.
• 28:57
  So he certainly deserves credit. He played relatively well.
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  He made a couple of mistakes that I think there was 2 dropped
• 29:03
  interceptions in that game that really to turn things in The
• 29:06
  Jets favor. But overall, I think you saw the
• 29:08
  philosophy and the reason that they went from Russell Wilson to
• 29:11
  Aaron Rodgers. I think he's going to need to be
• 29:13
  a little bit better against better teams, but it was a good
• 29:16
  start, at least for the passing game for the Steelers.
• 29:19
  I follow Dalton on Twitter at PFF under score.
• 29:23
  Dalton. Dalton, you do a ton of previews
• 29:25
  of college football games from what you've seen as we
• 29:28
  transitioned to college. For our last couple of minutes
• 29:30
  with you. Dalton, give me Who are your
• 29:33
  team's best two or three teams in college football from what
• 29:37
  you've seen so far? Well, how do you have them
• 29:39
  right? Say one through 5, one through
• 29:41
  3, whatever you want. I mean, I have no issue with
• 29:45
  Ohio State being number one and what they did in Texas and the
• 29:48
  way that they looked on both sides of the ball and they
• 29:50
  continued that last week in an easier game.
• 29:52
  I think as Julian Fan continues to develop, that team's going to
• 29:55
  be really dangerous. LSU in the way that their
• 29:57
  defense is playing, they've been fantastic.
• 29:59
  If they can keep up that defensive improvement, because
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  that's been the problem the last couple years, has been their
• 30:03
  inability to stop opposing offenses that are especially
• 30:06
  good throwing the ball. LSU is really good.
• 30:08
  Penn State's obviously really good, but they haven't played a
• 30:10
  big game yet. But it's very open at the top
• 30:12
  right now, I think. I think you have those three who
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  have proven something on the field in big games so far, or at
• 30:17
  least especially LSU and Ohio State.
• 30:19
  But there's a lot of huge games coming in the next couple weeks
• 30:22
  that are going to shake things out even more.
• 30:23
  Speaking of huge games the SEC gets their conference play
• 30:26
  really started this week with a bunch of them.
• 30:28
  And because I think the slate is so good, this one's a little bit
• 30:31
  under the radar. Arkansas going to Ole Miss
• 30:34
  Taylor has been absolutely outstanding in the early going.
• 30:38
  Competition is going to ramp up in a big time way.
• 30:40
  Going to the Grove, I was a little bit surprised by this
• 30:43
  number. I thought it would be and more
• 30:45
  in that 1010 1/2 range. It's right around a touchdown.
• 30:48
  What do you expect to see with Ole Miss in Arkansas?
• 30:51
  I think you're going to get a wild football game.
• 30:53
  I think even now it's sitting at 7, seven and a half and I
• 30:56
  believe it's going to be close to that.
• 30:57
  I think that game's going down to the wire in Arkansas is a
• 30:59
  very good chance to win. You're looking at, I think the
• 31:02
  odds are wider in Ole Miss favor.
• 31:04
  One, they're at home. And two, they really slammed
• 31:06
  Arkansas last year, but they lost all those guys on that
• 31:09
  offense that put up 63 points. I haven't been particularly
• 31:12
  impressed yet with the way that Ole misses looked.
• 31:14
  I think Austin Simmons has had a real transition to being the
• 31:17
  starter and he's really got, you know, Lane Kippens trying to
• 31:20
  guide him through some tough times and some big mistakes.
• 31:22
  But I think Arkansas, look, Taylon Green, like you
• 31:24
  mentioned, is really dangerous. He's a really good quarterback
• 31:27
  under Bobby Petrino there as the OC.
• 31:29
  And then if Arkansas secondary can just keep them in the game
• 31:33
  and if they're better than they were last year because they gave
• 31:35
  up 63 points to Ole Miss last year and their secondary was
• 31:38
  just a disaster, if that's a better unit and they got a lot
• 31:40
  of transfers in there and they keep themselves in it, I think
• 31:43
  Arkansas can absolutely go down there and win that game.
• 31:45
  What a great follow during football season.
• 31:47
  College or pro Dalton Wasserman at PFF.
• 31:50
  Under score Dalton. Dalton, you do great work over
• 31:53
  there. Ton of videos up there.
• 31:54
  College football NFL rankings released or gradings released.
• 31:58
  Keep up the good work Dalton. We appreciate what you do for us
• 32:01
  and we'll talk to you down the road.
• 32:02
  Thank you, Dalton. Absolutely appreciate you guys
• 32:05
  have me on as always. Yep, good to talk to you, Dalton
• 32:07
  Wasserman. It really is a good follow on on
• 32:10
  Twitter if you're into football, if you're different angles,
• 32:12
  different voices. So here's an anomaly that's
• 32:15
  coming up from the betting world when it comes to the Broncos and
• 32:18
  the Colts line. This line is 2 1/2 at FanDuel.
• 32:22
  Circa just went to pick. What pick?
• 32:26
  Now that's got to be a whopper of a bat.
• 32:27
  It has to be huge. I mean, that's one and circa.
• 32:30
  Takes huge bets. So your son Kale gets the bet,
• 32:32
  and he's got to call Benson. He's not quite at work yet, 20
• 32:35
  minutes away, but yeah. But if he is, yes.
• 32:37
  That's what where Benson needs to get involved.
• 32:39
  For sure. If you're moving to that number.
• 32:43
  What were they this morning? They couldn't have been there
• 32:48
  then, were they? I am looking they.
• 32:50
  Were at Well, they were one yesterday, they were two on the
• 32:54
  9th. Do you have an hourly split of
• 32:57
  the split by the hours? Zeal.
• 32:59
  No, just the last time that it moved was from or.
• 33:02
  The last number posted that it changed was yesterday at about
• 33:05
  3:27 in the afternoon. Went from went from 2:00, then
• 33:08
  down to 1. Then this morning it opens up
• 33:11
  and it's a pickle. I'm telling the Colts, the Colts
• 33:15
  got a big shot to win this football game.
• 33:17
  Danny Dimes fan over there. Well, I'm now you talk about the
• 33:21
  Broncos defense like there's 85 Bears.
• 33:23
  Well, they're pretty good. I'm not saying that the 80.
• 33:25
  Five bears and Danny Dimes is going to carve them up, huh?
• 33:28
  Well, Greenlaw's not playing OK, but they got a lot of dudes,
• 33:32
  including the the the defending defensive player of the year in
• 33:37
  Pat Sir Tan Hufanga is absolutely legit.
• 33:41
  Zach Allen is a beast. Their defensive line is great.
• 33:44
  They got a bunch of guys. They're good.
• 33:46
  They're really good, really good.
• 33:49
  But Danny Dimes is going to be the one you're nervous.
• 33:51
  What I watched Bonex play Bonex was terrible.
• 33:57
  Terrible. So we should maybe erase that
• 33:59
  tape from the summer when you were singing the virtues of Bo
• 34:02
  Nicks. Put a bit in the top five.
• 34:06
  No, no, I never went that far. I just maybe if I said I said
• 34:10
  maybe, I hope he becomes, he's not there yet.
• 34:12
  My argument with Bo Nicks was always with Sean Payton.
• 34:15
  I didn't know how much more upside was there, how much
• 34:17
  better he could get than what we've seen.
• 34:21
  I might be right on this one. You could be.
• 34:23
  I hate to say it, but especially this one.
• 34:26
  I mind when you're right on another things, but this one's
• 34:28
  gonna Lewis the knife. Lucas has something intriguing
• 34:31
  right now. Call in the trade you can get
• 34:34
  Caleb Williams. Lucas.
• 34:35
  For Bonex, before the show, we were talking.
• 34:37
  About Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 34:38
  Would you take it? No, no.
• 34:43
  Sean Payton with Caleb Williams. Ben Johnson with Bonex I don't
• 34:51
  know I'm I'm anxious to see where this quarterback class how
• 34:56
  it all plays out right because there were so many of.
• 34:59
  Them Knicks was bad. McCarthy was bad for three
• 35:02
  weeks, Drake May was not very good on Sunday.
• 35:05
  You go through. Panics.
• 35:07
  I didn't see anything. And had opportunities and got
• 35:10
  them into field goal range and. We'll see the 8th versus the
• 35:13
  10th pick on Sunday Night Football. 123 Williams, Daniels
• 35:20
  May 8th Pennex 10 McCarthy 12 Knicks.
• 35:24
  We'll see how it ranks 10 years from now.
• 35:27
  We will take a time out. Trent's plays of the day.
• 35:30
  They're coming up next. Miller and Condon talking sports
• 35:33
  with you. Thanks for being with us on Des
• 35:34
  Moines Sports station One O 6.3 KX and over statewide on the
• 35:38
  Iowa State Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 35:41
  I'm Miller and Condon, final couple of minutes here on a
• 35:43
  Thursday. Turn things over and off the
• 35:46
  bench. Shawn and Lucas take you until
• 35:48
  5:00. Cyclone Insider TONIGHT airs
• 35:51
  from six until 7 and that's followed up by Commanders and
• 35:56
  the Packers. That coverage courtesy of
• 35:58
  Westwood One getting underway at 7:00.
• 36:02
  I'm not sure what Messieurs Repay and Heinz have cooked up
• 36:05
  on Cyclone Insider tonight, but it airs at 6:00.
• 36:09
  All right, Trent Connor, first of all, before we get into your
• 36:11
  place of the day, have you decided where you're going to be
• 36:14
  broadcasting high school football tomorrow?
• 36:16
  Yes, going to be Valley Stadium is the Tigers coming off a loss
• 36:20
  to newly minted #1 Waukee Northwest last week.
• 36:24
  They tried to bounce back as they welcome in Lucas Strains
• 36:26
  alma mater. The Urbandale Jayhawks will be
• 36:29
  making the way in. Good stuff, good game, you
• 36:31
  think? Hope so.
• 36:32
  Yeah. How?
• 36:33
  Was the schedule in week 3. Little bit different.
• 36:36
  I had some plans, maybe even to travel a little bit more, but
• 36:38
  decided to stay here local. Couple local teams that'll be
• 36:41
  involved in that. One all right, good stuff.
• 36:43
  Let's your plays of the day. There's football.
• 36:46
  Is the West over or is tonight the last night?
• 36:48
  I don't know. OK, Neither do I Didn't look.
• 36:50
  Yeah, I haven't looked at it since #22 got hurt, Yeah.
• 36:56
  What are you betting on tonight? Baseball.
• 36:58
  I got 3 baseball plays and one in both in the NFL and in
• 37:01
  college. Going to start with Christian
• 37:03
  Javier and the Astros against your Blue Jays here.
• 37:07
  Too big of a price. I'm going to grab the plus 140
• 37:09
  in a even matchup I believe. Yeah, I do too.
• 37:12
  Plus 140, like that one with pick number one pick #2 well,
• 37:16
  Mackenzie Gore's coming off the IL.
• 37:18
  You know what that means? Bet against.
• 37:19
  Them bet against them and we will do that against Weathers,
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  who's been pretty good for Miami -117 in that spot.
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  And then tonight we're going to grab a big price plus 153 with
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  Sardiano against Seattle. I'm betting against the streak
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  as the Mariners are hot, but we're going the other way.
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  Angels plus 153. You talked me into it.
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  You know, I'm a great listener. Yeah, I I don't hear that at
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  home. I don't hear that at work with
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  you. But today I'm a great listener.
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  Our guy does hear that at home. I'm.
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  Grabbing the commanders. You've talked me into it today.
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  Give me the 3 1/2 there and I'm going to lay it with the
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  Wolfpack tonight. NC State -7 Against a Wake
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  Forest team that is struggling, defensive.
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  Now who's got that game? ESPN yes, 630.
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  Good. That works.
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  All right, we're out of here. I, we appreciate you being with
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