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The IndyCar Report with Elijah Poe (2.123.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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  [SPEAKER_01]: You are listening to the Indie car report with Elijah Poe.
• 0:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's only on the Central Indian Sports Report.
• 0:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to the Central Indian Sports Report Indie car fans for a special edition.
• 0:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: of the Indie Car Report, Elijah Pose, Christmas wish list for the Indie Car series.
• 0:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm also going to give mine as well.
• 0:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: First of all, Merry Christmas, Elijah.
• 0:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: What are your fancy plans for this holiday?
• 0:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Merry Christmas to you too, Greg.
• 0:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Not really a whole bunch of plans having some family staying home mostly, which is the best plans are our lack of plans I would say for Christmas, that's for sure.
• 0:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: The best thing about Christmas break is just having not a whole lot to do.
• 0:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
• 0:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you're always going to be here.
• 0:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
• 0:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: What I want to do here, Elijah, is kind of do a 20, 25 year in review and then get your Christmas wish list for the series.
• 1:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that that can kind of go hand in hand.
• 1:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: When it comes to Alex Polo and what he accomplished in 2025, would you like to see him do it again in 2022?
• 1:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Or would you rather see the wind spread out a little more?
• 1:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think the fan in me would always say, no matter what Alex Polo did.
• 1:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was a little monotonous at times seeing him always win.
• 1:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Eight wins, any 500 win, one the championship by 200 points.
• 1:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was unbelievable and it, I think it would be more impressive to see him do it again, but just as a fan of the sport, I would really like to see a close championship battle because that's, that's where really all the fun comes from at the end of the season.
• 1:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is, uh, I will say this, the winds of his were entertaining.
• 2:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: There have been years in the past where a driver's been dominant and he's been so dominant.
• 2:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's taken the fun out of the sport.
• 2:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: That is not, was not the case last year.
• 2:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think at all with the series and with Alex Plough.
• 2:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: That, yeah, that is a good point.
• 2:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, he had,
• 2:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: He didn't have really maybe only one or two wins where he won over a gap of 20 seconds plus.
• 2:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: That was pretty rare for him.
• 2:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: He made a lot of closing lap passes or defending on late cautions.
• 2:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, that's a good point right there.
• 2:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: He really did have the wins that he had.
• 2:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: He did really earn it.
• 2:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: And same thing with any 500 for him to come out on top of that win.
• 2:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Even though he had two cars ahead of him
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: back of the pack just run it on that draft.
• 2:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: That was a shame to see how that ended, but he's still won the damn thing.
• 2:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's great.
• 2:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's soon to be the theme of 2025.
• 2:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And again, it's crazy to say it because you and I, we've had some commenters on the on our YouTube stream where a little too negative on Formula One.
• 3:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so we know what it's like to have one driver go
• 3:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it really can be it's it's like formula one.
• 3:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a little hard to see the racing itself.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Just not be there.
• 3:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's totally different from Indie car where the racing is really competitive.
• 3:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it is really tight.
• 3:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you watch a formula one race and
• 3:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're lucky to see 15 overtakes on TV.
• 3:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: You tuned any car on an oval or even a street circuit for that.
• 3:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you've got a hundred plus overtakes happening left and right.
• 3:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just think that's what makes a sport so great in.
• 3:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: And what makes Alex Flow so great is the fact that he's able to
• 3:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: take those overtakes and defend and still win at a very, very high rate and he's just on a different level.
• 3:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I saw motor sports dot com ranked him as the the third best driver in the world in 2025 behind max or step and in George Russell, which I think is just a shame.
• 4:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: He is obviously number one A or number one B right with max for step and I agree 100.
• 4:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was exactly what I was going to say you would have to put them one A and one B. I would probably put for step
• 4:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: a little higher level, maybe half level above in the car, but the worse you put is Alex Plode number two.
• 4:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: With the year he's had, like I said, eight race wins, I mean, for a majority of the season, we were talking about him breaking AJ Foitz race winning record, and even though he didn't break it, just to even think that he was even close to breaking it in the modern day of racing, it is unbelievable.
• 4:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure we can probably always say I'm not sure if it would ever be broken again,
• 4:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Not race wins for AJ4, you haven't 10 or 11 wins in a season nowadays, it just sounds impossible.
• 4:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: With this formula, it's almost impossible.
• 5:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 5:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Anyin14.5 finishes.
• 5:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's really remarkable and the fact that he holds himself so well, even when he's a great loser.
• 5:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's, when you have a lot of personalities in Indie car, you can get pretty myth the wrong way and get pretty angry, but, you know, he's one of the sports best media personalities as well.
• 5:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: You see him at colds games, you see him at Pacers games, he's taking the board Warner the Spain and showing it off.
• 5:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's really a great ambassador for the sport and.
• 5:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Even though he's been rumored to go to Formula One for quite some time, I can't see him ever making the jump because it really feels like he's found his footing in Indie car and why would he leave?
• 5:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Another challenge maybe, but there's no reason to leave.
• 5:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a great series.
• 5:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, it's a it's a half level below Formula One, but at this point, it's almost to the level of Formula One.
• 6:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's no reason.
• 6:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: And let's just be honest, Elijah, America is the place to be, right?
• 6:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: For racing, I love indie cars based on overracing.
• 6:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: And here in America, we have ovals, and I love that.
• 6:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: I love Formula One as well.
• 6:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: I love the technology that goes in a Formula One and you definitely have to respect that sport as a whole.
• 6:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: The tradition.
• 6:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: But there's something about Indie Car that appeals to a way, way wider audience.
• 6:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: They appeal to a huge audience that you might not know anything about Indie Car.
• 6:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: But if you go to a race, you know, you have access that you would never dream of
• 6:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: no question about it.
• 6:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just a matter of marketing and time before it becomes on an evil playing field with formula one.
• 6:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: They just have to do the right thing.
• 6:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let me tell you in the 90s it was getting close.
• 6:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then there was an earthquake in American open wheel racing and it hasn't recovered to that level quite.
• 7:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: But we can get there.
• 7:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: especially not formula they have now in the drivers they have now.
• 7:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I would say going on four million drivers as well, I think Fox has done really great things for the sport and
• 7:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: for them to be a third owner and IMS and any cars a whole two they're committed and that is a huge huge media company and if they're able to to really push any cars a whole what a great opportunity.
• 7:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was just the just the other night I was watching a football game on Fox and they're already promoting that they don't have 500 alongside the opening for any cars Saint Pete and that's exactly what any car fans been wanting for years.
• 7:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the fact every race is on network television is a great thing.
• 7:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's so much about this series to market Elijah.
• 7:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: They just need to find the way to do it, and it shouldn't be hard.
• 7:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see what happens.
• 7:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Another guy that they can definitely market is Pato Award.
• 7:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: We thought Pato
• 8:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: was going to be a championship contender in an up finishing second in the standings, but really never contended for the championship.
• 8:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to do our 2026 pre preview next week.
• 8:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Kind of look ahead, but as far as Paddo goes, would you consider last season a really good season, a remarkable season, disappointing, how would you describe his season last year?
• 8:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think he had a really, really solid season, but it was just overshadowed by the fact that Alex Plo is so damn good.
• 8:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Powder award is going to be a premier talent in any car for a long time, and I can even see him making the jump to Formula One if he's able to string together some really, really competitive seasons.
• 8:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, he, I mean, he isn't any car guy.
• 8:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: You look at him on an oval, and I'm not sure there's a more aggressive driver on an oval
• 8:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to want to 500, it's just a matter of time.
• 8:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly.
• 9:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's such a great driver, and such a great driver for the sport as well.
• 9:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: His branding is top notch.
• 9:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's the most popular driver by far, and even though he didn't have a ton of race wins last year, he was fighting for top fives and podiums, non-stop.
• 9:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that McLaren car wasn't also the strongest at a lot of tracks last year.
• 9:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I'll be interested to see how they can rebound for 2026.
• 9:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, pretty cool that, uh, arrow McLaren still a young team.
• 9:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think they've probably reached where we can stop saying that at this point.
• 9:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's still a fairly young team and comparison to the other super teams.
• 9:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Did have two drivers in the top five, including Christian Lindgard.
• 9:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, arrow McLaren definitely is on a rise as well, with Tony Kanon being there.
• 9:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: team principal and retaining Christian loongard we know we've had our thoughts about no and seagull no matter the thoughts on his poor racecraft he is still really young so you never know he could really take a step up in twenty twenty six but with Christian loongard and pattoe ward that is just a fantastic lineup it's going to be interesting to see if loongard can kind of nail it on the ovals um
• 10:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was pretty competitive and later half of the season, but he was still really far behind Paddo.
• 10:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's the be expected though, with how great Paddo is, but Lungart had some incredible road and street course races last year for Arma Claren.
• 10:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: And he kind of went under the radar, even though we talked about him.
• 10:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: last season, he kind of flew under the radar just because he wasn't picking up huge winds like Alex Plo or wasn't fighting all the time like Pto award, but he is such a consistent driver and for him to be in that air McLaren C is so great for his career.
• 10:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I wouldn't call it a great season for Scott Dixon.
• 10:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: He only led 91 laps and only won one race, but man, he finished the herd in the standings and just continues to cement a legend that I never imagined we could, when he was young, we knew he was a really good driver, never imagined he'd turn into this.
• 11:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: One of the absolute all-time grates, take away and dready and foie, he might be the greatest of all-time.
• 11:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's hard to disagree.
• 11:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's just he is so consistent weekend in week out.
• 11:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: He hasn't really ever put his car in danger.
• 11:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: He usually always finishes and even though he had that.
• 11:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: mistake that ended up leading.
• 11:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh no, Alex flow had that mistake that led to that wind.
• 11:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: But regardless, he was there to capitalize.
• 11:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: And he's been such a consistent driver.
• 11:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: And for him to finish third, it is so impressive.
• 11:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: And in the team where there's no doubt that Alex pillow is the big wig chip can ask you now.
• 11:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's just a fact.
• 11:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: But for him to still be competing with Alex at that age, it's remarkable.
• 11:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: And he's so great for the support as
• 11:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: you know, he's ever lasting, you know, his time in this sport has been has been really put in with blood sweat and tears and he's had a great great career.
• 12:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'll be interested to see how he can kind of close out his final chapters.
• 12:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure when he's going to retire because, you know, finishing during the championship at that age, there's no need to say retirements on the books.
• 12:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: But we'd right now, that's for sure.
• 12:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: But we all know that, you know, the end is coming eventually.
• 12:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so I would love to see him maybe even be a little bit that more competitive with Alex below.
• 12:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's also said he doesn't really like the hybrid era.
• 12:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: It changes up his style of driving, but you know, he's going to have to adapt and now these had a couple of years with it.
• 12:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'll be, it'll be fun to see what you can do in 2026 because he is just one of the goats.
• 12:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like to say, I'm one or another, 500.
• 12:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it will be awesome.
• 12:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: He deserves, he deserves another one.
• 12:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: For him, the only I have won is it's crazy to think up just because he's been so freaking good.
• 12:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's been so competitive at Indy so many times and only has one win.
• 12:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's a shame.
• 12:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, and before we get to your Christmas wish list, Elijah, for the Indy car series, probably the worst season in Pinsky history.
• 13:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Crazy to say, it was a really, really weird year, and even though New Garden had a strong star at St. Pete, the whole season was kind of overshadowed by the attenuator mess at Indianapolis this May.
• 13:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was a very, very crazy time to see Tim Syndric be fired, to see Gavin Ward have to leave the team, to see Ron Rasuzki leave the team, like to see all these big names at Penski that we've seen for years and years and years, kind of just implode and them not really have a race win until the last couple of races of the season.
• 13:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was shocking, honestly, as an indie car fan, you just expect Penski to be there every
• 13:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was just kind of just a media nightmare for that team, just if New Garden kind of went to a little hole will power is always will power come on.
• 14:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was he was pretty, he was pretty fun all year, but Scotty Mac really regressed and he was somebody who in 2024, we're saying he's going to compete for championship in 2025.
• 14:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Correct.
• 14:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think they're going to be fine in 2026, but it was it was definitely an off putting year for them just to see.
• 14:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: them struggle.
• 14:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's been years and years since we've seen a pensky team really struggle.
• 14:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think looking at the stats, I think it was back to the 2000.
• 14:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: So 25 years of success and now you're kind of floundering was it was definitely odd to see and their driver line up as well.
• 14:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: When you have well-powered Joseph New Garden and Scotty Mack, you expect at least one or two championship contenders, but they were really just flat all year last year.
• 14:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, once again, Elijah, I wanna wish you a Merry Christmas and all the listeners, the best Christmas ever.
• 14:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I want to get your Christmas wishlist three specific things I have for you, Elijah.
• 15:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Number one, a driver you'd like to see in the series sometime in the future.
• 15:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not gonna allow you to take Conner Daily or Colton hurt it in this way.
• 15:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I would say the driver I would like to see in the series most.
• 15:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know this isn't gonna happen anytime soon.
• 15:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: But when you look at max first app and how aggressive he is in a formula one car, I could not imagine the overtakes he could make in an indie car.
• 15:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: It would just be incredible to see him even go wheel the wheel with Alex Polo.
• 15:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think it would be easily some of the best years of indie car if max first app and is able to come to indie car.
• 15:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know he said he doesn't want to ever race on ovals, he doesn't like the danger factor
• 15:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I totally respect, but then again, you know, he's seen formerly one great come to Indie car like Nigel man, so one others and really have success over here.
• 16:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: And if he is a true racer as he says he is, you know, he races everything and you know, there's no reason why he can't at least give this shot.
• 16:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: The Emerson football team is another one.
• 16:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: What do you know the first world champion to come over to Indie car?
• 16:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly.
• 16:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: And just to see how aggressive he is in a formula one car is, it's hard to overtake in those cars.
• 16:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: When he's got some push to pass behind him and some extra hybrid to see him in an indie car would just be incredible, especially on road and street courses.
• 16:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: My answer is Kyle Larson, but maybe even more Kyle Bush, that would be fun, wouldn't it?
• 16:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that would be so fun.
• 16:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Get some drama in the sport.
• 16:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's right.
• 16:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: I kind of love Kyle Bush.
• 16:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: I kind of loved it.
• 16:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's very marketable.
• 16:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would love for him to run the 500 one day.
• 16:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think he eventually will get to it before he retires.
• 16:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think there's any doubt about that.
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because he was slated to run it in the, I think, 2018 before that deal got swept underneath them, but man, that would be awesome for him to be in the sport.
• 17:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's definitely something he's going to do before the retirees.
• 17:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully.
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for sure.
• 17:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I really like to see him take a shot at the entire series.
• 17:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I doubt he could compete on the streets and road courses, but he's a talented guy.
• 17:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: So who knows?
• 17:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, second, Elijah.
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know this is a tough one because there are so many.
• 17:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can name as many as you want as we do this, but you're one track you would like to see an Indie car in the future.
• 17:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's got to be 100% I could go to ovals here, but I just love walking's going and I wish Indy car was back at walking and going so bad.
• 17:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just love that track layout.
• 17:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I love how it used to race.
• 17:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: I get a little jealous seeing NASCAR and MSA still run there.
• 17:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Even though it's an MSA-owned track, I know there's probably not going to be
• 18:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: any any card deals up there in the future, but it would just be great to have them back in upstate New York where that race market is really feeding for a race up there.
• 18:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's there's no market over there that gets a race close to them and for them to be able to go up to upstate New York and have a race at a beautiful track in Walkins Glen would just be so great for the sport.
• 18:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: The two that I most wanted were Milwaukee and Phoenix, they're back.
• 18:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm left a little bit, and I would really like to see a super speedway.
• 18:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Michigan would be great, but it's just such a waste.
• 18:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't see it happening, maybe Polkano, but it's so often we'll have nowhere that you've got to be in a better marketing situation.
• 18:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I really liked Richmond.
• 18:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they can do that.
• 18:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think Richmond would be my answer.
• 18:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I, Indie cars are so good on short ovals.
• 18:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: That is good answer.
• 18:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: I could see them maybe even going back to Chicago land with NASCAR buying that track and and starting to do renovations on it.
• 19:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm seeing them back at Chicago land would be great as well.
• 19:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like the formula better on the short tracks than the high banked ovals.
• 19:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, Indie cars really it's proved it's bread and butter on the short tracks.
• 19:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: You look at St. Louis, and you look at what they've done and we're walking in the last couple of years and they have been awesome.
• 19:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: The formula has been so good on the short tracks and it's such a fun race to watch strategically and how drivers deal with traffic which in the series right now you don't do a lot.
• 19:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Especially that night race at St. Louis last year, that was one of the coolest indie car races I've ever watched.
• 19:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Fantastic race.
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And some of those Richmond races back in the day were very similar.
• 19:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, just the best.
• 19:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: And last question Elijah on your Christmas wishlist, is there a rule change you'd like to see?
• 20:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I look at the new independent
• 20:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like a lot of the issues we had in 2025 were drivers just holding their racing line and forcing drivers off the track.
• 20:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, I get that it's totally legal to do that, but it just feels a little dirty and they're all professional race car drivers.
• 20:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: They know when the cars beside them.
• 20:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: They know that they can push a driver off the track and they're not gonna get penalized for it.
• 20:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so they do.
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you can't blame it for that.
• 20:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's been in the rules.
• 20:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but it created some pretty scary crashes this year.
• 20:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think of Connor daily.
• 20:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, when Chris and Rasmussen, I think that was in Portland, where Christian Rasmussen had his line and he was well-thin as right to hold that line.
• 20:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: But you have a high speed crash like that.
• 20:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: That is just so incredibly dangerous.
• 20:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: And these are some of the best race car drivers in the world.
• 20:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: For some, the play nice.
• 21:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just, that's something that's really hard to fix.
• 21:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: because you can't be in a driver's head, but it is something probably needs to be done because it was dangerous.
• 21:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I can see the new independent body, maybe not.
• 21:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: during out really, really bad penalties toward something like that.
• 21:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: But even just a five second penalty in the pit stop box, just like four real one does, just to put a driver's if you do something like that, you're going to get at least penalized a small bit.
• 21:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that's all that racers really need really need to know because if there's a chance they're running up top of the pack and they get a five second time penalty, especially on an oval, your race is gone.
• 21:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: How about you have to find a way to get behind the driver
• 21:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Mm.
• 21:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: You have to drop until you're behind that driver.
• 21:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would like that as well.
• 21:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that would be really good for the sport because there's tons of times, embarking usually comes up, I feel like it's mostly on ovals, but there's some sort of tracks and some street and road circuits where it came up as well, where it just gets into dangerous situations.
• 22:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think really the rules that need to change is when you get into that dangerous situation.
• 22:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: the penalties now for quote unquote blocking our two harsh any time you have to go into a pit the pit area as a penalty you've lost the race essentially.
• 22:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you're going to find a way to penalize somebody a little less harsh for something that is a judgment call by the officials.
• 22:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's going to be the hardest thing with this new independent body,
• 22:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: what judgment calls are they going to make?
• 22:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Are they going to be super strange strange on things that they're feeling passionate about because a lot of these things are judgment calls and that's scary situation for a lot of these teams and drivers to be up in the hands of if somebody who just has an opinion on a call which is, you know, a little bit scary to think of that somebody can have that much weight and wrong call could really screw somebody over.
• 23:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Eliza here's the real change I'd like to see no more races ending under yellow flags.
• 23:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's a good one.
• 23:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that they've skirted around pretty well at Indy the last handful years, but it is always disappointing, especially when you because you want to see a late restart on any track, it could be street oval or road.
• 23:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm seeing it come to yellow is just a little
• 23:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: You want the ND500 to be 500 miles I understand, but having him in under yellow is a worse situation than having them go 500 and 2 and a half miles or 500 and 5 miles to determine a champion.
• 23:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: because it's just when it's such a great race.
• 24:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think of the Tony can on when ending under yellow with such a shame.
• 24:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad he won, I kind of glied the yellow came out.
• 24:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the fact that we didn't get to see him when a race under green is a shame.
• 24:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the race a few years ago, there was one that ended poorly and I'd like to see them somehow make a fix.
• 24:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: and the red flag has been great the last few years they've made the right call on that.
• 24:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: But there needs to be a permanent fix that this race never ends under yellow, particularly the ND500.
• 24:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I get that drivers and and teams are upset about the fact that and the car can throw that red flag at any time, but this sport is for the fans who go and watch it and watch it on TV, as much as it could screw up the way your strategy works.
• 24:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sports not really for you, people are paying a lot of money out, especially the N5 100.
• 25:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of people in a lot of money at stake.
• 25:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody wants to see it in under cars going 50 miles an hour down the back stretch.
• 25:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Truth is, Marcus Erickson got screwed out of an N5 100 win, but you got it in that under grain if you can.
• 25:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
• 25:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: You just have to.
• 25:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: and I think we all know Marcus, we saw him at Indy this year, even though he got disqualified in the end, he had a really, really good shot to win that race and he's always been consistent there.
• 25:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks so much Elijah and Merry Christmas everyone.
• 25:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Merry Christmas, thank you, Greg.
• 25:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Central Indian sports report is a product of ITG media, and I love Susie.
• 25:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody please have the best Christmas ever.