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Chiefs’ Eric Bienemy’s wife hospitalized, UNC places Mike Lombardi on paid leave, Vita Vea requests trade from Buccaneers · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on? My people? How are
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Speaker 1: we doing? John Middlecoff Three and Out podcast, that'd be
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Speaker 1: the show. We got another crazy day in the NFL. Honestly,
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Speaker 1: today's might take the cake. We'll obviously start in Kansas
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Speaker 1: City with the just jaw dropping story to come out
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Speaker 1: of chiefs Land. Michael Lombardi will hit on that suspended
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Speaker 1: Belichick's right hand man in North Carolina. We got a
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Speaker 1: trade request from a pretty prominent defensive player. Some other
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Speaker 1: stuff going on around the NFL, some dad diaries as
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Speaker 1: dive into the day that was. As I've been saying
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Speaker 1: now for a while, the show Playmakers does not hold
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Speaker 1: a candle to what actually happens in the National Football League.
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Speaker 1: I don't know Eric be enemy personally. I obviously have
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Speaker 1: close relationships with a lot of people in Kansas City,
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Speaker 1: and they think really highly of them, and they're definitely
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Speaker 1: you know, and definitely Coach Reid was fired up to
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Speaker 1: have them back. So when you see the breaking news
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Speaker 1: on Monday morning, I mean I got multiple people forwarding
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Speaker 1: me tweets and alerts on my phone that his wife
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Speaker 1: was shot. You know, you're just like, you're like, wow,
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Speaker 1: this is not football, this is real life. And then
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Speaker 1: as the news starts coming out that she was shot
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Speaker 1: by her own son, like what the fuck? And you know,
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Speaker 1: watching Coach Reid's press conference of this is not one
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Speaker 1: of those things like this is just have to see
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Speaker 1: how this goes. You know, he's away from the team,
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Speaker 1: going to be with his family and we'll just kind
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Speaker 1: of take it day by day. And by all accounts,
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Speaker 1: when I'm recording this, you know, she had serious shot,
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Speaker 1: multiple times, serious injuries, in stable condition. But this is
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Speaker 1: one of those things that will just rock an organization.
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Speaker 1: And as I've learned having a child, there's no handbook
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Speaker 1: for life. There's no one there at two in the
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Speaker 1: morning when he's screaming bloody murdy murder because he's got
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Speaker 1: hives from what he just ate, because he's got an allergy,
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Speaker 1: or he's teething, and you just don't know what to do.
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Speaker 1: There's no one there to help you or your wife.
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Speaker 1: You just got to figure it out. Being a head coach,
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Speaker 1: there is no comparison to being a coordinator, definitely to
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Speaker 1: being a position coach, because when shit hits the fan,
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Speaker 1: you can't make up the stories that are happening. This story.
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Speaker 1: I've been following the NFL since the early nineties for
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Speaker 1: fifteen plus years, worked in the league, and now done
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Speaker 1: this for a living for a decade plus. I don't
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Speaker 1: ever remember anything quite like this. A prominent assistant coach
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Speaker 1: on one of the most prominent teams wife gets shot
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Speaker 1: by her son early in training camp. Like, what do
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Speaker 1: you do as a head coach that no one holds
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Speaker 1: your hand in that situation? And this is where coach
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Speaker 1: reads value really shows up. And this is the type
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Speaker 1: thing you know, Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelcey, I mean, these
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Speaker 1: guys have known Eric b enemy for a long long time.
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Speaker 1: This is just it's like the Shanahan situation when you
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Speaker 1: find out that he potentially like could have lost an eye.
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Speaker 1: As Chris Sims said, it just cold really rattle you
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Speaker 1: as a human being. We all, you know, hopefully really
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Speaker 1: love what we're doing, spend a lot of time in
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Speaker 1: our given profession, give a lot of effort, end up
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Speaker 1: spending you know, throughout the course of your life a
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Speaker 1: lot of times more time working and working with other
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Speaker 1: people than you even do in some industries than with
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Speaker 1: your own family. And definitely in football, the bunker mentality,
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Speaker 1: the amount of time you're with people, you get to
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Speaker 1: know people, the relationships that are formed. I mean, these
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Speaker 1: are the type situations that will just rattle a building.
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Speaker 1: And you know, Andy's seen it all. He's been through
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Speaker 1: a lot of shit in his career. You know. In Philadelphia,
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Speaker 1: I became very close and I lunch with the guy,
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Speaker 1: was around him every single day for I don't know
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Speaker 1: what felt like a year plus. In Garrett and his son,
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Speaker 1: I sat next to the guy at the Reeds Thanksgiving
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Speaker 1: table in twenty eleven. I considered him a friend. And
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Speaker 1: in the training camp in twenty twelve when Big Dom
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Speaker 1: had to kick down the door, you know, and he
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Speaker 1: lost his life from an overdose, like he just there's
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Speaker 1: no The situations that they've seen, you know, throughout this
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Speaker 1: guy's career is fucking bananas, and being able to just
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Speaker 1: hold it together and keep moving forward is something most
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Speaker 1: people could not do. I mean, I have no clue
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Speaker 1: if I could. I have no clue if I have
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Speaker 1: the capability to handle some of these situations, if I
5:24
Speaker 1: was the guy sitting in the big boy seat. And
5:27
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people, you know, you always
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Speaker 1: wonder like how would I handle it? And it's easy
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Speaker 1: to like think about how you would. It's it's always
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Speaker 1: much easier to make the suggestions than decisions. And you
5:37
Speaker 1: get put in a situation where you know you lose
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Speaker 1: someone very close to you goes through I mean about
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Speaker 1: as traumatic of an experience. I mean, as you're gonna
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Speaker 1: find a son shooting their mother. I mean, what are
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Speaker 1: what It's crazy to even say that out loud multiple times.
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Speaker 1: It's not like, you know, some accidental shot went off
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Speaker 1: with the with the gun in the house. At least
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Speaker 1: based on where we're at right now, who knows, maybe
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Speaker 1: information will change, But this the league is just what
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Speaker 1: a start? Holy shit. I mean, you couldn't if I
6:21
Speaker 1: wrote the playmaker script this version of the start of
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Speaker 1: this training camp just over the last week, I don't
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Speaker 1: even think people would be like, no, this is this
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Speaker 1: is too far fetched. No one's gonna believe this. What
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Speaker 1: are you doing, and no, this is actually happening every
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Speaker 1: single day something it feels like more bananas is going on,
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Speaker 1: and obviously you just gotta keep your fingers crossed that
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Speaker 1: Eric Bienemy's wife makes a full recovery and they figure
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Speaker 1: out this family situation and Eric spends as much time
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Speaker 1: as he needs to trying to get a hand on
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Speaker 1: whatever the hell happened and whatever they're gonna do moving forward,
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Speaker 1: because I don't even want to try to speculate on
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Speaker 1: how you would figure those issues out, and who knows
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Speaker 1: what was going on before. I don't even want to
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Speaker 1: speculate there. But wow, that's all I can say. And
7:17
Speaker 1: this is this is where Andy's value comes through in space,
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Speaker 1: because there aren't many situations the man hasn't seen, so
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Speaker 1: that this is for as much as we talk x's
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Speaker 1: and o's and who are you gonna draft and who
7:32
Speaker 1: are you gonna trade for, obviously that matters, but being
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Speaker 1: able to handle the tsunami of craziness, which is just inevitable.
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Speaker 1: I don't care what you do for a living, I
7:44
Speaker 1: don't care who you are. You're gonna get put in situations,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna have things happen to You're gonna have things
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Speaker 1: happen to people in your life, and there are gonna
7:53
Speaker 1: be times when you're definitely not ready to handle it,
7:55
Speaker 1: and hopefully, as time goes on, you will just figure
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Speaker 1: out ways to Like sometimes you just I don't even know.
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Speaker 1: You just got to battle your way through and do
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Speaker 1: the best you can in an empathetic way, from a
8:08
Speaker 1: leadership standpoint, from trying to be a good guy. I
8:13
Speaker 1: don't even know where you start here, but wow. The
8:17
Speaker 1: other crazy story today is Michael Lombardi, who is Belichick's
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Speaker 1: right hand man, who told everybody and listen. I was
8:25
Speaker 1: a huge fan of Lombardi's podcast. I think he's come
8:29
Speaker 1: on this show a couple of years ago before he
8:31
Speaker 1: went into the business. I've never had a bad interaction
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Speaker 1: with him. I do think it's safe to say that
8:40
Speaker 1: I'm somewhat of an outlier. I had someone in the
8:44
Speaker 1: NFL today I was texting about this story, and he's
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Speaker 1: worked with Lombardi, and he said, listen, I got no
8:51
Speaker 1: issues with him, but I've never been around this guy's
8:54
Speaker 1: been the league fifteen plus years. Someone in the NFL
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Speaker 1: who in personnel that has more enemies. People despise the guy,
9:04
Speaker 1: and I think there's definitely an element there with Belichick
9:07
Speaker 1: two and part of life. Eventually, unless you're just the
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Speaker 1: best at what you do and you're so fucking good
9:14
Speaker 1: that you're untouchable and you can act any way you want,
9:17
Speaker 1: eventually there's gonna come a time when you're gonna need
9:20
Speaker 1: some people in your corner. You're gonna need some people
9:23
Speaker 1: advocating for you. You're gonna need some people to say,
9:26
Speaker 1: you know, you got this guy wrong. And it feels
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Speaker 1: like Belichick and Lombardi just have made a lot of enemies.
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Speaker 1: They got a lot of bitterness. And the difference is
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Speaker 1: that I've worked on a college campus and I've worked
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. A college campus is much closer in
9:47
Speaker 1: my opinion too, And I've never worked for like a
9:50
Speaker 1: Fortune five hundred company. But like Boarder directors, they got
9:53
Speaker 1: border regions. They got a president which is essentially the CEO.
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Speaker 1: They got this middle management, this athletic director, a bunch
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Speaker 1: of you know, kids on campus where there are specific
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Speaker 1: rules and the way you can act toward them and
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Speaker 1: things you can and can't do. You know, when you
10:10
Speaker 1: go to the NFL, there's no student assistant around like that.
10:13
Speaker 1: Sharon Moore situation where he couldn't keep you know what
10:16
Speaker 1: in his pants, Like that's that's not gonna happen that
10:21
Speaker 1: way in the NFL. Right, look at Rabel. He was
10:25
Speaker 1: having an affair with someone in her late thirties, early forties.
10:28
Speaker 1: You know, she was a grown up. There was nothing
10:30
Speaker 1: nefarious there in the sense of their relationship with one another. Now,
10:36
Speaker 1: whether it was you know what, they're with their spouses
10:39
Speaker 1: in terms of like sleeping with a student assistant, like
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Speaker 1: that can only happen on campus. That can these situations
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Speaker 1: on campus in the way some of these programs operate.
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Speaker 1: Stanford a couple of years ago or was it last year,
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Speaker 1: fired Troy Taylor for essentially being a royal asshole. You
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Speaker 1: know why, because on Stanford's campus, that's not the way
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Speaker 1: they want to operate. You know, as crazy as this sounds,
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Speaker 1: there were a lot of people when Jim Harbaugh left
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Speaker 1: Stanford to go to the forty nine ers that were
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Speaker 1: happy because he wasn't easy to deal with, and that's
11:17
Speaker 1: not really what they like in that world. In the NFL,
11:21
Speaker 1: Jed Yorke got destroyed for firing Jim. You know why,
11:25
Speaker 1: because you win, no one cares if he's an asshole. Belichick,
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Speaker 1: by all accounts, was not easy to deal with, just
11:31
Speaker 1: as a lot of football coaches have been. And he's
11:34
Speaker 1: winning Super Bowls and going championship games and winning the division.
11:37
Speaker 1: Guess what the Crafts did. They complained about it, but
11:39
Speaker 1: they looked right past it, and they paid him fifteen
11:41
Speaker 1: to twenty million dollars a year. But when you go
11:44
Speaker 1: to a college like North Carolina, which they just fired
11:48
Speaker 1: Hubert Davis because he wasn't winning enough. But in terms
11:51
Speaker 1: of the character, the way he ran his program, it's
11:54
Speaker 1: everything that they I would say, aspire to be academics
12:00
Speaker 1: NBA players. They just wanted to win more in the attorney,
12:04
Speaker 1: but in the sense of the character and their operation,
12:08
Speaker 1: he's right up their alley Belichick in North Carolina, when
12:12
Speaker 1: I've always heard clearly Belichick's very well read. You know,
12:16
Speaker 1: he has this academic background. He's a I think would
12:19
Speaker 1: be considered an intellectual, but he's much more like an
12:23
Speaker 1: intellectual that you would find with like mechanics. You can
12:29
Speaker 1: find him in like a tire shop sensibility. You're a
12:31
Speaker 1: little rough around the edges, you know, And a good
12:34
Speaker 1: buddy of mine from high school that I played high
12:35
Speaker 1: school football with has you know, Goodyear tires in Davis, California,
12:39
Speaker 1: and they crush it. So I'm not anti tire shops honestly.
12:42
Speaker 1: Those I got no issue with those type people. I've
12:45
Speaker 1: always gotten along with them. I got yelled at a
12:47
Speaker 1: lot by Pat Hill at Fresno State and by Howie
12:52
Speaker 1: in the NFL. The one thing about college though, in
12:56
Speaker 1: coach Hill he had to deal with a lot of
12:58
Speaker 1: different things in Fresno State, by no means is Ohio
13:00
Speaker 1: State and North Carolina USC or whatever. But there were
13:03
Speaker 1: just so many hands in the cookie jar. When I
13:06
Speaker 1: got to the NFL. The meetings consisted when important shit happened.
13:10
Speaker 1: Of Andy Reid, Howie Roseman, and Jeffrey Leurry. That's it.
13:14
Speaker 1: There wasn't a board of directors. There weren't seven other
13:17
Speaker 1: people with opinions. Like there's the head hanchos and the
13:20
Speaker 1: guy sign and the checks and that's what these guys
13:23
Speaker 1: are used to. And but by all accounts that you know,
13:27
Speaker 1: I saw Pete Dammel, I think I saw a clip
13:31
Speaker 1: on social media that this was next employee that turned
13:35
Speaker 1: him into hr you know in the NFL, Like if
13:38
Speaker 1: you tried to turn in Jim Harbaugh with the Chargers,
13:41
Speaker 1: they would fucking burn. They wouldn't care. As you guys
13:44
Speaker 1: have asked me in the mailbag, like what's the HR
13:46
Speaker 1: like for players? Like it doesn't exist. You know, this
13:49
Speaker 1: league's about two things, making money, winning games college. Yeah,
13:55
Speaker 1: maybe in the SEC. Right, look at Kirby Smart. His
14:00
Speaker 1: team over the course of the last ten years has
14:03
Speaker 1: had major issues on the roadways. Right, nothing really happens,
14:09
Speaker 1: you know why, because they keep going to the SEC
14:12
Speaker 1: championship game. Right in college at certain places Northwestern. Look
14:17
Speaker 1: at Pat Fitzgerald, who got railroaded. You know. Part of
14:22
Speaker 1: the reason he was able to get railroaded he was
14:23
Speaker 1: just coming off a one and eleven season. But if
14:26
Speaker 1: an iconic guy like that had been at a program
14:29
Speaker 1: like ole Miss, probably doesn't happen. There are a lot
14:32
Speaker 1: of rumors about Lane Kiff in the last five years. Dude,
14:35
Speaker 1: it's something to fary his shit, right, guess what happened?
14:39
Speaker 1: Olemiss didn't care, you know why, because he was winning
14:41
Speaker 1: ten plus games every year. He was getting them on
14:44
Speaker 1: the road to the playoffs. Hell got him to the playoffs,
14:46
Speaker 1: and then he happened to bounce LSU definitely will not
14:50
Speaker 1: care as long as he wins. That's not really how
14:52
Speaker 1: North Carolina operates. So I personally have no vandetta or
14:57
Speaker 1: agenda against Mike Lombardi. Listen, He's one of the few
15:00
Speaker 1: podcasts that I actually listened to because he would just
15:03
Speaker 1: talk a lot of shit. But for a guy that
15:08
Speaker 1: has worked in football for a long time, God, it
15:10
Speaker 1: feels like a lot of people hate the guy and
15:13
Speaker 1: this situation just feels like it is spinning the drain.
15:18
Speaker 1: It really does. I just you put a target on
15:22
Speaker 1: your back when you start. He's the highest paid GM
15:25
Speaker 1: in the league. Him and Bill just aren't exactly the
15:29
Speaker 1: first people you think about, like, Hey, you wanna you
15:32
Speaker 1: want to go hang out with your friends in Caabo St. Lucas,
15:35
Speaker 1: You want to go for a weekend trip to Naples?
15:39
Speaker 1: You know, he's got to call Lombardi and Belichick. That's
15:42
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's leaving many people's mouths. The
15:46
Speaker 1: other story I saw today was Videvea, who's thirty one
15:48
Speaker 1: years old, will be thirty two I think in like
15:50
Speaker 1: six seven months. Chefter just tweeted source Videvea has requested
15:56
Speaker 1: a trade. You know, the first thing I did, I
15:59
Speaker 1: typed in contract. You know what came up. He's a
16:02
Speaker 1: free agent after this year. So Schefter's tweet could have been, uh,
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Speaker 1: Vdavea wants a lot of money, doesn't like what he's
16:11
Speaker 1: hearing from Jason Light. And I think you know Jason Light,
16:14
Speaker 1: who came up under Belichick and Andy Reid Videvea when
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Speaker 1: he's when he's humming, is a very unique player. He's enormous.
16:23
Speaker 1: He's powerful by all accounts, super high level guy type
16:27
Speaker 1: guy that you can build championship teams around. Once you
16:31
Speaker 1: get thirty two, and the price now of high level
16:33
Speaker 1: defensive tackles is thirty plus million dollars a year. I'm
16:37
Speaker 1: out of that business. So it's like, hey, I don't
16:40
Speaker 1: I'm not, I don't want to trade you, but I'm
16:43
Speaker 1: not giving you a contract extension. And he's adamant I'm
16:46
Speaker 1: gonna get a contract extension. It's like, okay, see what,
16:50
Speaker 1: I'm not just giving you away. You can hold in
16:53
Speaker 1: all you want, but we don't really plan on giving
16:57
Speaker 1: you a contract extension. You know, we gave you an
17:00
Speaker 1: enormous contract, seventy two million dollars. And I also understand
17:05
Speaker 1: Vidavea's standpoint, like, I have one more contract in me potentially,
17:10
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna risk getting injured, So you're kind
17:13
Speaker 1: of at an impass. The one team that kind of
17:15
Speaker 1: jumps out to me, and if I'm Jason lytight, I
17:18
Speaker 1: am on the horn because their decision maker is not
17:22
Speaker 1: the GM, it's the coach and John Harbaugh he said
17:25
Speaker 1: this early on in his tenure for the Giants, the
17:28
Speaker 1: goal here is to make the playoffs year one. Well,
17:32
Speaker 1: once the situation happens with Lawrence and you trade him
17:37
Speaker 1: away to the Bengals, would you figure out a way
17:42
Speaker 1: to make a trade here. Now, you're not gonna give
17:44
Speaker 1: up a first round pick for an older defensive tackle.
17:48
Speaker 1: But if John Harball within a week thinks, God, we're
17:50
Speaker 1: actually pretty good. We got a bunch of pass rushers.
17:53
Speaker 1: The one thing we need is a big ass body inside.
17:57
Speaker 1: Could you fleece him a little? You know? Could you
18:00
Speaker 1: could you get a second and a third right now? Now?
18:03
Speaker 1: I think in a perfect world of your Jason Light
18:05
Speaker 1: you're trying to be good this year, you want just
18:07
Speaker 1: vave on your team. But if this is one of
18:09
Speaker 1: those situations where it's like we're kind of transitioning, Like, look,
18:14
Speaker 1: they just let Mike Evans go to the forty nine ers.
18:16
Speaker 1: I guess they didn't let them. They tried to re
18:18
Speaker 1: sign him, but Mike Evans left, Vidavea is going to leave,
18:23
Speaker 1: So would you pull the trigger now? And to me,
18:25
Speaker 1: you take advantage of a team being run by coach
18:29
Speaker 1: because they're much more emotional, they think much more in
18:32
Speaker 1: the short term. And the simple fact is john'son never
18:36
Speaker 1: been in charge of personnel. Ozzie always was, and then
18:39
Speaker 1: Tecosta was. This is the first time where everyone in
18:42
Speaker 1: the personnel's department answers to him because he's the guy
18:45
Speaker 1: in a five year, hundred million dollar contract. So that
18:48
Speaker 1: would be the number one team. I would be all
18:51
Speaker 1: over trying to get more than probably any other team
18:55
Speaker 1: is willing to get me if I realize this is
18:58
Speaker 1: just not worth it, we'ren't a little bit of a
18:59
Speaker 1: transdtional year. Uh, But that's that also creates some dynamics.
19:03
Speaker 1: I'm sure Todd Bowles doesn't want Vita Behead to be traded, So, uh,
19:07
Speaker 1: this happens, and it's typically or I would say, mostly
19:11
Speaker 1: always over the almighty dollar, and this is never like
19:16
Speaker 1: these are it's never like I just I just don't
19:19
Speaker 1: like the scheme we're running. I don't like the way
19:22
Speaker 1: they're using me. Whenever you see that, it's like, no,
19:24
Speaker 1: what's what's the financial situation right? And it's typically like,
19:28
Speaker 1: well I want double what I'm making and I want
19:31
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Speaker 1: New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia. I do think it's nuts
21:28
Speaker 1: the pace in which people heal in twenty twenty six,
21:32
Speaker 1: and I don't know if it's just I've even noticed
21:35
Speaker 1: with myself, I feel so much better having to do
21:39
Speaker 1: infrared sauna and cold tub three or four times a week.
21:43
Speaker 1: It has changed the way my body feels it's it's remarkable.
21:47
Speaker 1: And I'm not even trying to rehab injuries. I'm just
21:50
Speaker 1: trying to feel better, be a little more alert when
21:52
Speaker 1: I hate the record button here to talk talk a
21:55
Speaker 1: little ball. But it's not that long ago when a
22:01
Speaker 1: guy would tear an ACL, have a bad like foot break,
22:05
Speaker 1: let alone Tarran Achilles, and it would ruin their career. Now,
22:09
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones who tours Achilles past the halfway point of
22:15
Speaker 1: last year, and he said he's good to go for
22:19
Speaker 1: training camp. That's what he told Pat McAfee today. I
22:21
Speaker 1: mean Patrick Mahomes towards ACL, not week one, towards ACL.
22:25
Speaker 1: At the end of the season and training camp comes,
22:27
Speaker 1: he's ready to roll. Now, I would imagine neither of
22:30
Speaker 1: these guys are going to be one hundred percent relative
22:33
Speaker 1: to what they were before the injury, you know, in
22:36
Speaker 1: late July. But the fact that they are able to
22:39
Speaker 1: go is pretty insane. It really is. Now. Playing quarterback
22:45
Speaker 1: is different. Like you know, Micah Parsons who towards ACL
22:48
Speaker 1: kind of towards the end of the last season two
22:50
Speaker 1: middle of the season. I guess I'd have to look
22:53
Speaker 1: up that date November. He's he's not ready to go.
22:56
Speaker 1: Now he is explosion. It's a little bit different of
23:00
Speaker 1: what Micah Parsons is asking his need to do than
23:04
Speaker 1: the two quarterbacks. But even for him, like, let's just
23:07
Speaker 1: my guess is he's back, I don't know, late September,
23:10
Speaker 1: early October. That's that's way faster than it used to be.
23:14
Speaker 1: So George Kittle tours Achilles in Uh, like what was it? Was? It? Yeah?
23:21
Speaker 1: The Eagles game the tors Achilles is a playoff game
23:25
Speaker 1: and there's like a fifty vity chance that he goes
23:28
Speaker 1: to Australia week one. So I understand that the improvement
23:33
Speaker 1: in modern medicine. I think a lot of it is
23:36
Speaker 1: the rehab techniques. Uh, but holy shit, it's it's it's
23:42
Speaker 1: pretty nuts. Uh. The one thing, you know, John Lynch
23:48
Speaker 1: was asked about Brandon Ayuk. Well, he addressed it. John
23:51
Speaker 1: Lynch in his press conference he filled in for Kyle
23:54
Speaker 1: said like, listen, I know you guys are gonna ask
23:55
Speaker 1: about Brandon Ayuk. Here's where we stand. He's on the
23:58
Speaker 1: list left team. We're folcus on who's here. I'm not
24:02
Speaker 1: discussing him. I don't understand. This is why I don't
24:07
Speaker 1: get that caught up in all the Instagram posts by
24:09
Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk, who looks like you know Antonio Brown on
24:13
Speaker 1: steroids with way less accomplished. I mean, Antonio Brown was
24:18
Speaker 1: dramatically a better player, and honestly was it did it
24:21
Speaker 1: for like six plus years at a Hall of Fame level.
24:24
Speaker 1: You got like one breakout season and then gets injured
24:27
Speaker 1: and he's like, I'm off my rocker. It's like, if
24:29
Speaker 1: you really wanted to do what you're saying, you just
24:32
Speaker 1: would have showed up day one in the training camp
24:35
Speaker 1: whenever the that's you know, reporting, and it would have
24:38
Speaker 1: kind of forced their hand because what would they do.
24:41
Speaker 1: They're not gonna watch you around. Then they would probably
24:44
Speaker 1: release you, but for you. And he said this, and
24:47
Speaker 1: he's backed up his words with his actions of I'm
24:51
Speaker 1: not ever showing up there again. Well, if you never
24:53
Speaker 1: show up again, they will just keep you on this list.
24:57
Speaker 1: You won't count against the ninety man roster, they won't
24:59
Speaker 1: have to to pay you. You're making it and it's
25:02
Speaker 1: easy for them to go double middle fingers to you
25:04
Speaker 1: based on you talking a bunch of shit about them.
25:07
Speaker 1: The way to get released was simply to show up.
25:10
Speaker 1: They would immediately probably send you home and release you.
25:14
Speaker 1: But I just I think a lot of this has
25:17
Speaker 1: been I mean, who knows. Maybe he's clearly losing his mind,
25:22
Speaker 1: but it's just that nothing's gonna happen. So no matter
25:25
Speaker 1: what he says, unless he shows up to me, it's
25:28
Speaker 1: pretty irrelevant anytime you have to fire a coach. On
25:33
Speaker 1: July twenty seventh, for I guess the tight Ends coach
25:38
Speaker 1: for the Commanders got a dewey early in June, and
25:44
Speaker 1: I guess by you know, reading some of the details
25:46
Speaker 1: that I think there was some aggressiveness. I don't think
25:49
Speaker 1: it went well for the guy. Maybe they were waiting
25:52
Speaker 1: for the legal process to run its course, but I mean,
25:57
Speaker 1: that feels like the seventeenth biggest thing that happened to again,
26:00
Speaker 1: tight End coach. You can fill it in with some
26:02
Speaker 1: random guy. It's not the end of the world. But
26:04
Speaker 1: you talk about just derailing your career, you know, I mean,
26:08
Speaker 1: what are you doing, buddy, I mean, come on, okay,
26:12
Speaker 1: before we get to the uh, the mailbag, I'll do
26:18
Speaker 1: a quick Dad diaries. Uh. This kind of speaks to
26:22
Speaker 1: the modern medicine and the improvement in just things we know,
26:28
Speaker 1: you know, in twenty twenty six. I don't know exactly
26:32
Speaker 1: how my parents threw me in a crib when I
26:34
Speaker 1: was six months eight months a year. I do know
26:37
Speaker 1: that we had blankets and pillows and different stuff in there,
26:40
Speaker 1: and they just threw me in there. Now, when Jack
26:43
Speaker 1: goes to his crib, he has something on his foot
26:46
Speaker 1: that would alert us if he ever ever like put
26:50
Speaker 1: his face in the ground and couldn't breathe or something,
26:52
Speaker 1: or just stop reading for some reason, it would start
26:55
Speaker 1: beeping really loud in way, because I mean, technology is
26:58
Speaker 1: pretty incredible. But early on, she's been breastfeeding the whole time,
27:03
Speaker 1: which is, I mean, one of the biggest pains in
27:06
Speaker 1: the ass in the in American history. I as someone
27:11
Speaker 1: who's talked a lot of shit about parenting pre child,
27:14
Speaker 1: like my buddies or my brother, people complaining about it.
27:18
Speaker 1: It can't be that hard. It The amount of stress
27:21
Speaker 1: it puts on a woman if they're gonna breastfeed is
27:23
Speaker 1: one of the most remarkable things I've ever seen. You
27:25
Speaker 1: always gotta be pumping, It's crazy. Uh. And then once
27:30
Speaker 1: they start getting teeth, they start biting you. I mean,
27:32
Speaker 1: it's just I can't even imagine the pain you go through.
27:35
Speaker 1: But obviously when you feed the kid breast milk, parents
27:39
Speaker 1: know this, you know it's what you've eaten. And early
27:43
Speaker 1: on he started like breaking out in these hives, and
27:48
Speaker 1: you just never know. Babies have sensitive skin. They get red.
27:50
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just maybe it'll go away, maybe it'll go away,
27:53
Speaker 1: and just didn't go away. It kind of got worse.
27:56
Speaker 1: So eventually he's like, I need, we need to take
27:58
Speaker 1: him into like the the allergy center. So you take
28:02
Speaker 1: him into the allergy center. They do this crazy prick
28:05
Speaker 1: test where they able to see what you're allergic to.
28:09
Speaker 1: It is. You got to hold them a screaming, bloody
28:11
Speaker 1: murder in this tiny little room. Wouldn't wish it upon
28:14
Speaker 1: my worst enemy. I mean you could get you could
28:17
Speaker 1: get the uh, what was the who was the guy
28:20
Speaker 1: that we traded for Brittany Griner in the most one
28:23
Speaker 1: sided trade since like h he's probably in the history
28:27
Speaker 1: of trades a merchant of death. You know. It's like,
28:31
Speaker 1: if you had Jack get pricked and just scream at
28:34
Speaker 1: the I would say, the levels and the violence in
28:38
Speaker 1: which the scream is coming out of his mouth, the
28:41
Speaker 1: merchant of death would tell you everything you knew. He'd
28:44
Speaker 1: fucking sing like a canary and he's just screaming and
28:48
Speaker 1: it comes up he's got a peanut allergy. So I'm
28:50
Speaker 1: just a bit you know, it's like, let's get a
28:51
Speaker 1: blood test, a double check. If we'll get the blood
28:53
Speaker 1: test like a week later, turns out he's got a
28:55
Speaker 1: peanut allergy. Honestly, I never I mean I've heard of
28:58
Speaker 1: it loosely, but growing up, you know, in the nineties,
29:02
Speaker 1: I didn't even know it existed. I don't ever remember
29:05
Speaker 1: being around some with a peanut allergy. I personally love peanuts.
29:08
Speaker 1: I eat a lot of peanut butter. Maria every day
29:11
Speaker 1: was eating a peanut butter protein bar, so clearly that
29:14
Speaker 1: was triggering this this allergy. But with that allergy, unlike
29:18
Speaker 1: some other food allergies, it's anti phylactic, which means, you know,
29:23
Speaker 1: shuts down your ability to breathe and you're in trouble
29:26
Speaker 1: because it could kill you. So you have to have
29:28
Speaker 1: one of these things that we put it in their
29:30
Speaker 1: thigh to kind of open their airway if any disaster
29:34
Speaker 1: ever happens. But today we saw a specialist because it
29:39
Speaker 1: you know, it kind of rattles you, especially rattles her,
29:41
Speaker 1: and it kind of like, damn, this is what I
29:44
Speaker 1: talked about with Coach Reed. There's no handbook for this,
29:47
Speaker 1: Like I don't I don't know anyone whose kid has
29:49
Speaker 1: a peanut allergy. Chad gpt it, Like is this gonna
29:52
Speaker 1: be bad? He's gonna have to eat it some different
29:55
Speaker 1: table when he's in first grade? Like how's he gonna
29:57
Speaker 1: go to a birthday party? You know, you're just like
29:59
Speaker 1: is this going to derail his life? And we went
30:03
Speaker 1: to the specialists today in the amount and even he
30:05
Speaker 1: said in the last twelve months he's done some of this.
30:08
Speaker 1: You basically start microdosing peanuts into his life. And because
30:14
Speaker 1: he wasn't crazy severe, you know if you if you
30:18
Speaker 1: get it early enough, they can grow right out of it.
30:20
Speaker 1: And he's like, if you started early enough, it can
30:21
Speaker 1: start fifty or sixty or seventy percent rates of getting
30:26
Speaker 1: over it and having no issues the rest of your life.
30:29
Speaker 1: And it was really hard on Maria. You know, you
30:32
Speaker 1: feel some responsibility when the foods you eat impact your child.
30:36
Speaker 1: It's hard. You know, you start you see him itch
30:38
Speaker 1: and it's just it's tough. But you know, the the
30:42
Speaker 1: amount of people and resources and just overall improvements to
30:48
Speaker 1: figure things out is pretty fucking remarkable. I mean it
30:53
Speaker 1: really is, and it makes you feel like I left
30:56
Speaker 1: the we went this morning, kind of walked out of
30:58
Speaker 1: there feeling pretty good. Whether he you know, gets over
31:01
Speaker 1: it or not, it's like, you know this, it's twenty
31:03
Speaker 1: twenty six. In my days, you probably someone just hands
31:06
Speaker 1: you a peanut butter sandwich and who knows, you might
31:08
Speaker 1: have died right there in the Pioneer Elementary Recess. You know,
31:11
Speaker 1: I don't think the teachers will be like, what's going on.
31:14
Speaker 1: So it's just the amount of improvements we've made there.
31:18
Speaker 1: And then you start, you know, she met a lady
31:20
Speaker 1: getting her nails done, she has a you know, her
31:23
Speaker 1: sister in law, cousin. You started kind of finding out
31:26
Speaker 1: stories and this is what we did. This worked, and
31:29
Speaker 1: it's pretty amazing. So it's just one of those that's
31:32
Speaker 1: pretty scary at first because you're like, this is pretty intense.
31:34
Speaker 1: It's one of those things that can close your airways.
31:37
Speaker 1: And then the more and more deeper you get into it,
31:39
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, there's that there's we can get over
31:42
Speaker 1: the hill. Well, we can figure this out. The problem
31:45
Speaker 1: is getting a I personally, as you know love a
31:48
Speaker 1: good IV so if I could, I'd get an IV
31:51
Speaker 1: once a week. Whenever I get one, I feel remarkable.
31:55
Speaker 1: If I'm ever down and out a little bit, I
31:57
Speaker 1: have no problem going to IVS and tell them the
31:59
Speaker 1: three some uh you know, throw everything possible in that
32:03
Speaker 1: bad boy twardowl be twelve. Just give me the ultimate
32:06
Speaker 1: ivy cocktail. And I've always had pretty easy vein to get. Well. Baby,
32:11
Speaker 1: their arms are really fat, right, so it's hard. This
32:15
Speaker 1: isn't like it doesn't look like Miles Garrett. Not easy
32:20
Speaker 1: to find the vein on the arm. So when they're
32:23
Speaker 1: going for the vein, they have to kind of look around.
32:27
Speaker 1: And when you see a baby getting pricked and just
32:30
Speaker 1: again merching to death, would hear that scream and within
32:34
Speaker 1: five minutes would tell you where all the fucking bombs
32:36
Speaker 1: and weapons. I promise you that, because it will mentally
32:40
Speaker 1: break you. I mean, especially when she's hitting that I
32:44
Speaker 1: can't find it in that arm, Gotta go to the
32:45
Speaker 1: other arm. And then she finds it and he hits
32:48
Speaker 1: he she finally finds the vein and he's squirming around.
32:53
Speaker 1: He hits like the tube that's connected to the needle
32:57
Speaker 1: and it pops out of his arm. He's screaming even louder.
33:00
Speaker 1: Oh my god, how this is happening? But it's just
33:03
Speaker 1: part of dad Diaries. Let's dive into the mailbag at
33:22
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33:24
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33:30
Speaker 1: Not sure if you read up on the Packers' financial concerns,
33:34
Speaker 1: with the financials required to have a profitable football team
33:38
Speaker 1: and the deep pockets of owners from the other thirty
33:41
Speaker 1: one teams, do you see a world where green where
33:44
Speaker 1: the Packers would leave Green Bay. There are talks about
33:48
Speaker 1: the Packers selling the naming rights to the Lambeaux to
33:50
Speaker 1: try and stay competitive. I lived in Green Bay, and
33:53
Speaker 1: I feel like this place would fall off the map
33:55
Speaker 1: if the Packers ever left. I do not think the
33:58
Speaker 1: Packers are leaving, so I feel pretty confident the Packers
34:03
Speaker 1: are there for the long haul. I skimmed an article.
34:06
Speaker 1: What I did not understand, and someone DM this to
34:09
Speaker 1: me is they had like seven hundred and thirty million
34:17
Speaker 1: dollars in operating revenue and like seven hundred and fifty
34:22
Speaker 1: million dollars in expenses. I didn't understand how their expenses
34:28
Speaker 1: could be that high because your player roster, even if
34:33
Speaker 1: the cap is you know, two fifty two eighty three hundred,
34:37
Speaker 1: even if you pay a little more, because some of
34:39
Speaker 1: the cash you gave contracts, you could never you couldn't
34:43
Speaker 1: get to four hundred in cash. And we've seen the numbers.
34:46
Speaker 1: Packers definitely are not well. The league gives you four
34:48
Speaker 1: h and fifty million dollars, so you know, you got
34:52
Speaker 1: a couple coaches, your your head coach makes some money,
34:54
Speaker 1: your coordinators, but who else is making a lot of
34:57
Speaker 1: money in the building? Like, what are your crazy expense Lambeau?
35:00
Speaker 1: Is it that expensive? Obviously you can't make any money
35:05
Speaker 1: from the field, you know in the winter months for
35:08
Speaker 1: concerts and stuff. I just maybe I got to relook
35:13
Speaker 1: at that. Where are their expenses coming beside the players?
35:20
Speaker 1: But I listen, the NFL makes so much money. They'll
35:24
Speaker 1: be fun. What's everyone's in fastuation? You'rs included with Kyle Shanahan.
35:32
Speaker 1: He's a good coach, of course, but I don't see
35:34
Speaker 1: as a top three or top five hype. No super
35:36
Speaker 1: Bowl wins in both Super bowls versus the Chiefs. He
35:40
Speaker 1: blew leads not to mention twenty eight three as an
35:42
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. I think we pumped the brakes and stopped
35:46
Speaker 1: calling him the second coming of Bill Walsh. I've never
35:51
Speaker 1: seen a coordinator get blame for a Super Bowl loss,
35:54
Speaker 1: I mean, has anyone. It shows you how much better
35:57
Speaker 1: he is than dan Quinn. I've never heard dan Quinn's
36:01
Speaker 1: name mentioned with twenty eight three. It's all Kyle Shannan.
36:05
Speaker 1: I bet if you polled the average football fan at
36:07
Speaker 1: this point and they wouldn't even remember dan Quinn was
36:08
Speaker 1: the head coach the Super Bowl thing. Let's let's use
36:13
Speaker 1: that as an example. Let's use some super Bowl winners, Sirianni, Tomlin, Harball,
36:21
Speaker 1: John not Jim. Do you think if we did a
36:23
Speaker 1: coaching draft in the NFL, every general manager any of
36:29
Speaker 1: those three Super Bowl winners would go above Kyle Shannan,
36:33
Speaker 1: because I'll promise you they would not. Now, if you
36:35
Speaker 1: want to tell me on a Super Bowl thing. Okay,
36:38
Speaker 1: a lot of people thought Andy Reid would never win
36:39
Speaker 1: a super Bowl. Everyone in Philadelphia knew Andy Reid was
36:42
Speaker 1: a stud right, never won a Super Bowl there. Hell,
36:46
Speaker 1: didn't even win a super Bowl for for five or
36:47
Speaker 1: six years in Kansas City like sometimes you just know,
36:52
Speaker 1: you know, I was watching the PGA Tour yesterday. This
36:55
Speaker 1: guy who's essentially like Andrew Luck of college golf. Then
36:59
Speaker 1: it would have been the number one pick in the
37:00
Speaker 1: NFL if he was a football player. Just won a
37:03
Speaker 1: PGA Tour event his third career professional start at twenty one,
37:08
Speaker 1: Like sometimes you just kind of know it. I was
37:10
Speaker 1: actually at the gym today and listen to some different
37:12
Speaker 1: songs on YouTube, and this clip came up of like
37:15
Speaker 1: a twenty two year old Blake Shelton playing acoustic and
37:20
Speaker 1: obviously twenty five plus years later, twenty however, many years later,
37:24
Speaker 1: whenever that video was it probably would have been late nineties,
37:27
Speaker 1: early two thousands. If you just listen to him sing
37:30
Speaker 1: with a guitar and a mic, you're like, uh, yeah,
37:33
Speaker 1: that guy's gonna be a star. Like, I don't know
37:37
Speaker 1: if if you don't think Kyle Shanahan is a top
37:39
Speaker 1: five coach in the NFL, I don't know what to
37:41
Speaker 1: tell you. Sean Payton won a Super Bowl. Who do
37:46
Speaker 1: you think most teams would pick Sean Payton or Kyle Shannon?
37:50
Speaker 1: If you want to tell me, you take McVeigh over him,
37:52
Speaker 1: because he got a super Bowl, Okay, But like, I
37:55
Speaker 1: don't think I would think anything different if Kyle had
37:57
Speaker 1: won those two games against Chiefs that he lost them.
38:00
Speaker 1: You know, is he a perfect coach? Of course not?
38:02
Speaker 1: Is he Bill Walsh? No one's saying that. Bill Walsh
38:05
Speaker 1: also started coaching the Niners when he was like sixty.
38:08
Speaker 1: This is Kyle's tenth season. He's forty six. You know,
38:13
Speaker 1: he's still twenty years away from being how old Andy
38:16
Speaker 1: Reid is now? Kyle just went on the road to
38:21
Speaker 1: an Eagles team that was loaded with a team full
38:25
Speaker 1: of practice squad guys and won a game in Philadelphia.
38:28
Speaker 1: I think he's won at forty six years old. He
38:32
Speaker 1: who'd he beat on the road. He'd beat Green Bay,
38:34
Speaker 1: he'd beat Dallas. He's got three. He's got a bunch
38:37
Speaker 1: of playoff victories, but he's got three road playoff victories.
38:45
Speaker 1: He's pretty fucking good, you know, I would say, and
38:47
Speaker 1: that's universally approved in football? Is he perfect? Now? Is
38:53
Speaker 1: anyone perfect? Like Sean McVay is an awful game manager, terrible?
38:59
Speaker 1: Andy Reid had that knock for a long long time.
39:02
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick once named Matt Patricia's offensive coordinator Andy Reid
39:07
Speaker 1: made Juan Castillo as defensive coordinator. You know, I mean
39:12
Speaker 1: people have done crazy shit. Sean Payton's had some seven
39:17
Speaker 1: to nineteen back to back years with the best offense
39:20
Speaker 1: in the league. No coach is perfect. Football is hard.
39:24
Speaker 1: This is in college. You can't just stack your roster
39:27
Speaker 1: like Nick Saban or Urban Meyer pre nil. It's this
39:30
Speaker 1: is difficult. I think he's pretty good. You know, I've
39:34
Speaker 1: been watching football a long time. He's he's legit. Speaking
39:41
Speaker 1: of the Niners, got a mailbag question for you. Everyone
39:44
Speaker 1: seems to have already crowned the NFC West a two
39:48
Speaker 1: team race rams in Seattle. I get why the Niners
39:50
Speaker 1: are being overlooked after the injuries, but I don't think
39:53
Speaker 1: people but I do think people might be sleeping on
39:56
Speaker 1: how high their ceiling is. Last year, Juwan Jennings finished
39:59
Speaker 1: as their top wide receiver, and he's generally viewed as
40:03
Speaker 1: a wide receiver two at best. Yeah, I think we
40:07
Speaker 1: saw his free agent market. I think he's viewed as
40:09
Speaker 1: a wide receiver three. If Mike Evan gives them an
40:14
Speaker 1: An Kwon Bolden level production from his forty nine er years,
40:19
Speaker 1: that often suddenly looks a whole lot more dangerous. I
40:22
Speaker 1: know when it comes to the Niners, you can't assume
40:24
Speaker 1: anything healthwise. So here's the question, assuming Perty McCaffrey, Fred Warren,
40:29
Speaker 1: Mike Evans all play fifteen plus games, what do you
40:31
Speaker 1: think the niners realistic seeding is? Are they legitimate dark
40:35
Speaker 1: horse super Bowl contenders? Or are we still overestimating the roster.
40:41
Speaker 1: I think to start this conversation, we have to assume,
40:44
Speaker 1: because I saw Chris Simms talked about it's pretty clear
40:47
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan got t boned. I mean the way his
40:52
Speaker 1: injuries are driver's side, left hand, you know, on the
40:55
Speaker 1: left side, got t bone driver's side by this Mercedes lady.
41:00
Speaker 1: And Chris said coming back from the chiropractor in Palo
41:02
Speaker 1: Alto and got hit hard. So if we assume, and
41:06
Speaker 1: even he said, this concussion thing has really rocked him.
41:10
Speaker 1: So if we assume this concussion thing, he can get
41:12
Speaker 1: over this because a huge part of the forty nine
41:15
Speaker 1: ers is his fucking brain, and right now his brain
41:18
Speaker 1: is hurt. So if Kyle's brain injury goes back to normal,
41:25
Speaker 1: and that's that to me, has to be the premise
41:27
Speaker 1: of anything. The way you talk about the forty nine
41:29
Speaker 1: ers because if his brain is not normal, and this
41:31
Speaker 1: is something that lingers all year, Niners would be in
41:34
Speaker 1: trouble because he is the brains in the engine of
41:37
Speaker 1: the operation. But I hear you. Obviously, the Rams on paper,
41:42
Speaker 1: I think would be the best team in the league,
41:43
Speaker 1: assuming Stafford's healthy. I would say Seattle pretty freaking good too.
41:48
Speaker 1: And you know both those two teams. You know, the
41:50
Speaker 1: Niners got rocked by the Rams second time they played him. Obviously,
41:53
Speaker 1: they got throttled by Seattle. The one thing both it's
41:57
Speaker 1: like a speed issue. So they just need more. You know,
42:01
Speaker 1: Bosa saw some clips yesterday. Looks fantastic. They're gonna need
42:04
Speaker 1: some of these younger pass rushers uh Osa, Digiezua who
42:07
Speaker 1: they traded for the Cowboys. Gotta be legit. You know
42:10
Speaker 1: Fred's friends been healthy since playoffs, like he he could
42:13
Speaker 1: have played in the Super Bowl. So you're gonna need
42:15
Speaker 1: Trent to be healthy. You know, McCaffrey, they didn't even
42:18
Speaker 1: average four yards of carry last year, So Mike Evans
42:22
Speaker 1: is good. Ricky Pearsall when he plays is good. I
42:26
Speaker 1: think they have a lot of question marks. But if
42:28
Speaker 1: you tell me stribbling, Ricky Pearsall's healthy to go with
42:31
Speaker 1: Mike Evans and Kittle's healthy and McCaffrey's healthy, a lot
42:34
Speaker 1: of ifs. Yeah, I mean I like what they're dealing with.
42:37
Speaker 1: But you know, just that's not usually the way it
42:39
Speaker 1: works for the Niners. I mean even today, Height, the
42:44
Speaker 1: guy they just drafted from Texas Tech, went down and
42:48
Speaker 1: had to get carted off, and everyone's like, oh, did
42:50
Speaker 1: he just tear his knee? Turns out it was cramps.
42:54
Speaker 1: But when you see Niners practice cart first thing you
42:57
Speaker 1: think of substation, second thing you think of achilles or
42:59
Speaker 1: knee season over. So it's just you just never know.
43:03
Speaker 1: And I think it starts with the coach though, because
43:07
Speaker 1: listen to Chris talk about it. His head got rocked good.
43:12
Speaker 1: And you know, if you take a driver's side, he's
43:15
Speaker 1: in a Tesla. You know this person in Mercedes Suv.
43:19
Speaker 1: I mean he got crunched, so forty stitches in the forehead.
43:26
Speaker 1: If you were buying stock into three quarterbacks this year,
43:29
Speaker 1: which ones are they? And why my investing strategy is
43:34
Speaker 1: not for everyone? And honestly I need to adapt a
43:36
Speaker 1: little bit as we've continue to invest in the market.
43:39
Speaker 1: I've always gone for kind of some value place, you know,
43:44
Speaker 1: thinking I could get, hey, he's got a chance to
43:46
Speaker 1: ten twenty x. Like I've never been a guy over
43:49
Speaker 1: the last five years. And listen, I regret some of
43:51
Speaker 1: it of not just like you just invest in Amazon,
43:55
Speaker 1: just throw some of that in Apple. That's not been
43:58
Speaker 1: my strategy. So I would if I'm gonna bet, like
44:02
Speaker 1: my Amazon bet, here would be Josh Allen. His coordinator
44:06
Speaker 1: is back. He has been established himself as one of
44:10
Speaker 1: the best players in football over the last five years.
44:12
Speaker 1: Really come, you know, taken off the last couple of years.
44:16
Speaker 1: I think he's just gonna have a massive year. But
44:19
Speaker 1: I am a value guy. So it's like I could
44:22
Speaker 1: easily just go Herbert Mahomes. You know, Mahomes bounced back
44:27
Speaker 1: and Herbert like, No, I would go Tyler Shuck. That
44:31
Speaker 1: is like a ten dollars stock that by the end well,
44:34
Speaker 1: he's probably more like a twenty dollars stock that by
44:36
Speaker 1: the end of the year could be like seventy five.
44:39
Speaker 1: So if you told me that Tyler Shuck throws thirty
44:42
Speaker 1: plus touchdowns and the Saints are competing to win double
44:44
Speaker 1: digit games in a wild card of the division, I
44:47
Speaker 1: think it's on the table, like to me, Josh Allen's
44:50
Speaker 1: like Google or Amazon. You gotta pay a lot tesla,
44:53
Speaker 1: like you want to own the stock. You're you're paying
44:54
Speaker 1: for it, and you're you're cool with like a twenty
44:57
Speaker 1: percent return. It's probably not gonna double right in the
45:00
Speaker 1: next year, Tyler shuck By, you know, Halloween could have tripled.
45:06
Speaker 1: So that's how I like to gamble, or that's how
45:09
Speaker 1: I like to invest. I got a little gambling street
45:11
Speaker 1: to me, and listen, Warren Buffett, many considered the greatest
45:14
Speaker 1: investor of all time, probably would hit me over the
45:17
Speaker 1: back of the head with a newspaper like, son, don't
45:19
Speaker 1: do that. I'm like, I got a little David Temper
45:23
Speaker 1: to me. I got a little Steve Cohen to me.
45:24
Speaker 1: I got a look, I enjoy the risk the other guy.
45:28
Speaker 1: I think there would be some like middle tier guys
45:30
Speaker 1: kind of that Jared God you almost have to pick between,
45:34
Speaker 1: like the Jared Goff, Jalen Hurts, Dak Purty kind of crew.
45:40
Speaker 1: I'm out on Jalen. I just think this year that
45:42
Speaker 1: offense it would get weird. I would say, I mean
45:47
Speaker 1: the thing that could derailed Dak the like George contract year,
45:52
Speaker 1: but I would expect a pretty successful statistical march new
45:57
Speaker 1: coordinator in in Detroit. I mean last year he had
46:04
Speaker 1: Jacoby were set through twenty three touchdowns, so you give
46:07
Speaker 1: him Laporta's back, Gibbs, aman Ra, Jamison Williams. The offensive
46:14
Speaker 1: line got some question marks and GoF Camp moves like
46:17
Speaker 1: me or you, So that would probably be like the
46:22
Speaker 1: middle tier where it's like a little bit more expensive stock.
46:25
Speaker 1: But like, there is a world where Jared god throws
46:28
Speaker 1: forty touchdowns this year, Purty, I again, a lot of
46:34
Speaker 1: question marks, right McCaffrey, is he just never the same player?
46:39
Speaker 1: Kittle coming off this Achilles stribblings, a rookie with a
46:43
Speaker 1: lot of talent, Mike Evans, older player, Piersall always injured.
46:48
Speaker 1: There is a world where he throws thirty five plus touchdowns,
46:51
Speaker 1: So I the safe one there would probably be Dak
46:55
Speaker 1: same coordinator, same personnel. I would say the highest upside
47:00
Speaker 1: would be probably Goff and Party. But Pretty's offensive coordinators
47:05
Speaker 1: currently in the concussion protocol with forty stitches, so that
47:08
Speaker 1: makes me a little nervous. So I would but if
47:10
Speaker 1: you told me he's fine, I think those two guys
47:13
Speaker 1: could have big seasons. How do incentive based contracts work
47:17
Speaker 1: under the cap I think I've been asked this question
47:19
Speaker 1: of answer. Are incentives treated if a player qualifies for
47:22
Speaker 1: them versus if they do not? If you hit like
47:25
Speaker 1: an incentive, like let's say you make five million dollars
47:28
Speaker 1: and you hit three million dollars worth of incentives, The
47:30
Speaker 1: way I've been told is it carries over to the
47:32
Speaker 1: next year because if you have an X amount of
47:37
Speaker 1: cap space, you can't go over. It's hard cap it
47:40
Speaker 1: carries over. So if you had to pay players twenty
47:44
Speaker 1: million dollars in cap space, I think it rolls over
47:46
Speaker 1: to twenty seven when a marquee athlete is looking to
47:51
Speaker 1: sign with a new team. People love talking about a
47:54
Speaker 1: city's off for lifestyle things to do, whether taxes, and
47:58
Speaker 1: how it affects their choice. Do you think this really
48:01
Speaker 1: makes a difference. All these guys now can afford to
48:04
Speaker 1: live wherever they want in that city in season, and
48:07
Speaker 1: live or travel wherever out of season, so seems way
48:11
Speaker 1: less important. I would tend to agree. I. I. You're
48:15
Speaker 1: dealing with guys in their twenties, I guess, and sometimes
48:19
Speaker 1: in their thirties. I think it comes down to two things.
48:22
Speaker 1: Money and you know the operation you're signing up for. Right,
48:28
Speaker 1: Lebron would not have signed with the Philadelphia seventy six
48:31
Speaker 1: ers if they didn't have Jalen Brown, Maxi and Edgecomb. Right. Hey,
48:37
Speaker 1: he didn't sign there because he wants to go hang
48:40
Speaker 1: out with the Liberty Bell or you know, hang out
48:42
Speaker 1: with Big Dom. He signed there because it gave him
48:44
Speaker 1: the best chance to win. Now, he's a little unique,
48:46
Speaker 1: he's forty two. But I just think that's pretty consistent
48:50
Speaker 1: in football. Whoever offers you the most money. Now, if
48:54
Speaker 1: all things are equal, right, if I'm being offered the same,
48:58
Speaker 1: then I think you would factor in, like, am I
48:59
Speaker 1: married in my single So if I'm married, school if
49:03
Speaker 1: we got kids, schools, taxes. But like you said, I'm
49:09
Speaker 1: not in a three year contract. If someone's given me
49:11
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars and I gotta go live in Minnesota,
49:16
Speaker 1: and I don't want to live in Minnesota. Well, six
49:18
Speaker 1: months a year, I can live in Arizona. I could
49:20
Speaker 1: live in Florida. I can live wherever I like to live,
49:24
Speaker 1: you know. So I don't think it matters at all
49:30
Speaker 1: at big levels. I think at lower levels I think
49:32
Speaker 1: you factor in like specifically the coach, like does this
49:36
Speaker 1: guy believe in me? But I'm with you. I think
49:39
Speaker 1: that stuff's a little overblown for bigger money guys because
49:43
Speaker 1: the amount of money they're making is kind of do
49:47
Speaker 1: whatever they want. What are your thoughts on the Patriots?
49:50
Speaker 1: Not yet extending Christian Gonzales, It doesn't make sense to me,
49:53
Speaker 1: But the price only gets more expensive. As a Pats fan,
49:57
Speaker 1: he seems like he could be well in his way
50:00
Speaker 1: one day to being the greatest corner in Patriot history.
50:03
Speaker 1: Universally praised Super Bowl performance right third at cornerback in
50:08
Speaker 1: ESPN's twenty twenty six league wide poll, and it is
50:12
Speaker 1: at the forefront of the Pats New era youth movement
50:15
Speaker 1: with may My only guess is durability concerns? Uh, Robert
50:20
Speaker 1: Craft said the other day, And I don't know why
50:22
Speaker 1: you would say. His lying he said, we offered him
50:25
Speaker 1: the highest paid corner in the league and the biggest
50:27
Speaker 1: contract in Patriot history. So like, if that's on the table,
50:32
Speaker 1: are they negotiating the cash flow right when bonuses are paid?
50:38
Speaker 1: Are they just kind of hammering out the nitty gritty
50:40
Speaker 1: of that deal? But Robert Craft just told you they
50:45
Speaker 1: offered him a contract that should meet the criteria. Now, again,
50:50
Speaker 1: the devil's in the details. When you're talking about that
50:54
Speaker 1: amount of money. You know how much money's paid up front,
50:58
Speaker 1: how much money is paid on a yearly basis, when
51:01
Speaker 1: are certain guarantees paid out, when do the contract vest
51:05
Speaker 1: Obviously there's more details to it than him just throwing
51:07
Speaker 1: that out there. But I would say, if I'm a
51:10
Speaker 1: Patriot fan, I feel pretty good about my owner saying
51:12
Speaker 1: that that something will get done. And the other thing
51:15
Speaker 1: is Rabel's a defensive guy. I think he'll value him
51:19
Speaker 1: pretty highly. You know, it's a little bit, you know,
51:22
Speaker 1: Mike walking up to the podium with the with the
51:25
Speaker 1: uh with the little dog. Smart move, Mike, smart move,
51:29
Speaker 1: is here with my little puppy. I've changed changed my ways.
51:33
Speaker 1: Me and my wife just got back from a wedding.
51:35
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. Okay, buddy, we know what you've been up to.
51:40
Speaker 1: What do you think is the single most important character
51:44
Speaker 1: trait for an NFL player? Also, if a guy's character
51:47
Speaker 1: is in question, do pass incidents? How does the process
51:52
Speaker 1: go for deciding if it's worth worth the risk to
51:56
Speaker 1: a to pick a player? With questionable character. If we're
52:01
Speaker 1: assuming you have the natural ability you know, to be
52:06
Speaker 1: in the NFL at whatever position you're playing, whether it's power, speed,
52:11
Speaker 1: hands like all that stuff, like you have all the
52:13
Speaker 1: talent going for you, I would say like grit, determination, competitiveness,
52:19
Speaker 1: kind of that intangible trait you know. To me, competitiveness
52:28
Speaker 1: also factors in like mental physical toughness, willingness to do
52:32
Speaker 1: whatever it takes to win, to make a play, to
52:40
Speaker 1: do whatever you know, to make a block for my teammate,
52:44
Speaker 1: to hold this guy up so my teammate can make
52:47
Speaker 1: a tackle, Like unselfishness is pretty high. But I would
52:52
Speaker 1: say that kind of will to win, the grit, the
52:56
Speaker 1: competitor or whatever you want to kind of describe that
53:00
Speaker 1: one word. I don't know the best way, best adjective.
53:03
Speaker 1: Probably need to read some more, uh to expand that vocabulary,
53:06
Speaker 1: but I think it's something like that because if you
53:09
Speaker 1: think about it, like obviously, like Jamar Chase has more
53:13
Speaker 1: talent than like some random wide receiver on the Miami Dolphins,
53:17
Speaker 1: But when you watch Jamar Chase like that motherfucker plays
53:21
Speaker 1: his ass off, right, I would say that would be
53:24
Speaker 1: some one of those things that falls under that grit, toughness,
53:26
Speaker 1: competitiveness is like most of the best players in the
53:29
Speaker 1: league play really hard and that that to me is
53:33
Speaker 1: a skill. So when you think about a lot of
53:36
Speaker 1: the great players, you know, a quarterback, you have to
53:39
Speaker 1: have a calmness to you. You know, That's the thing
53:43
Speaker 1: with football, It's like it's like a calmness to the craziness,
53:47
Speaker 1: Like you can't be crazy right before the play because
53:49
Speaker 1: it can throw you off. You gotta be under control
53:51
Speaker 1: and then you gotta go nuts. And playing defensive tackle
53:56
Speaker 1: is different from playing tight end, is different from playing safety.
53:59
Speaker 1: So there are some things they probably changed position to position,
54:03
Speaker 1: Like I you know, obviously you need those trades as
54:06
Speaker 1: a safety, but like if you don't have really really
54:09
Speaker 1: high football intellect as a safety, it's hard to operate
54:13
Speaker 1: when you're playing in a bunch of space against a team,
54:16
Speaker 1: against players that know what they're doing and you don't
54:18
Speaker 1: know what they're doing. So, you know, a quarterback, I
54:23
Speaker 1: think the most underrated traded quarterback is toughness. And I
54:27
Speaker 1: think the one we talk about the most is intelligence.
54:30
Speaker 1: And I don't mean like passing the SAT right or
54:35
Speaker 1: standardized tests even going to exist in like five years.
54:37
Speaker 1: I saw someone on Instagram like crushing their students. I
54:41
Speaker 1: think it was either high school or like college for
54:44
Speaker 1: getting caught using AI. It's like he thought it was
54:48
Speaker 1: like a like a point of pride, Like I caught
54:50
Speaker 1: my guys using AI. It's like, well, they can just
54:53
Speaker 1: find out everything you're asking them on AI. So when
54:55
Speaker 1: they leave the classroom to go to the real world,
54:58
Speaker 1: the questions you're asking them, they could just figure it
55:01
Speaker 1: out through the Internet. I actually didn't take it as
55:03
Speaker 1: like some big flex. I'm like, bro, you're gonna sound
55:07
Speaker 1: like a dinosaur here in a little while. But I
55:11
Speaker 1: know people in academics are gonna be like middle golf,
55:14
Speaker 1: do not belittle higher education. Well, if I could just
55:20
Speaker 1: find it out on the Internet, and I already know
55:21
Speaker 1: how to read and write, like, what are you really
55:24
Speaker 1: teaching me? But yeah, I think the traits the character thing,
55:33
Speaker 1: you know. I think for a lot of teams they
55:36
Speaker 1: get a guy who's been in trouble. Even my wife,
55:39
Speaker 1: she was Jack was sleeping on her the other day,
55:42
Speaker 1: like on Saturday, and I think I went to the
55:45
Speaker 1: gym and I came home and she's like, I just
55:46
Speaker 1: watched the first episode of a Quarterback. She's like, I
55:51
Speaker 1: didn't realize Baker Mayfield was kind of a problem child
55:55
Speaker 1: in college. I'm like, well, I don't think he was
55:57
Speaker 1: really a problem child. He is, you know, you just
55:59
Speaker 1: did a cup things to piss some people off. Yeah,
56:02
Speaker 1: he got tackled by the cops. You know, they are
56:04
Speaker 1: like individual instances. You're like, you know, no big deal,
56:06
Speaker 1: and then they're just habitual of like the if a
56:10
Speaker 1: coach tells you this guy's a bad guy, this guy's
56:12
Speaker 1: a bad teammate, this guy treats people bad. You know,
56:16
Speaker 1: if he's a good enough player, you just got to
56:17
Speaker 1: look into it. If he's not a good enough player,
56:19
Speaker 1: Like this guy's just we're not touching him. You gotta
56:23
Speaker 1: find out is he a bad person or is he
56:26
Speaker 1: just an immature kid. And there's like a fine line.
56:29
Speaker 1: And some people never mature and they stay being idiots,
56:31
Speaker 1: and some people mature and they're completely fine and high
56:34
Speaker 1: level members of society. Like you get a lot of
56:37
Speaker 1: people in this world, right. Some people battle through it,
56:39
Speaker 1: grow through it and come out on the other end.
56:41
Speaker 1: Some people are never able to figure it out. And
56:43
Speaker 1: you're just trying to take the most educated guests, possible
56:49
Speaker 1: of how this guy will fit my locker room, how
56:51
Speaker 1: this guy will interact with the coaches, how this guy
56:53
Speaker 1: can handle the media, if we're gonna draft the guy high,
56:56
Speaker 1: how this guy's gonna make a lot of money, have
56:58
Speaker 1: a lot of free time, see like with women. So
57:01
Speaker 1: I think you're trying to figure all that out and
57:03
Speaker 1: just find out again at its root cause is he
57:07
Speaker 1: a good or bad person? Because if he's a bad person,
57:11
Speaker 1: I know some people in society think that doesn't exist.
57:13
Speaker 1: I promise you it does. I've seen it firsthand and
57:17
Speaker 1: all walks of life, especially in football, some people are
57:19
Speaker 1: just bad guys, you know, and you just don't want
57:24
Speaker 1: them around. Some people have done bad things, but they're
57:27
Speaker 1: good people. So can you help get those guys along?
57:32
Speaker 1: And because those bad things, they happen to have a talent.
57:37
Speaker 1: You know, some of us, if we had done the
57:39
Speaker 1: equivalent bad things, our life probably wouldn't turned out the
57:41
Speaker 1: way it has because maybe our talent is not as
57:45
Speaker 1: great as those people. So some of these guys that
57:47
Speaker 1: have made awful decisions, they've been lucky that they've had
57:51
Speaker 1: this football talent that have put them in position. So
57:54
Speaker 1: you want to talk to them about you know, I
57:56
Speaker 1: would say some humility behind that of like do you
58:01
Speaker 1: understand what's on the table here and the two roads
58:05
Speaker 1: we can go down? So I think a huge you're
58:08
Speaker 1: basically like a detective of humans. That's kind of what
58:14
Speaker 1: the scouting world is. And it's like, well, how do
58:16
Speaker 1: you know how to do that well? Because you know,
58:18
Speaker 1: for Andy Reid or Sean Payton or McVeigh or standing,
58:23
Speaker 1: think how often they've been around teams. Kyle Shanaonan and
58:26
Speaker 1: Sean McVay have been around teams since they were little kids.
58:31
Speaker 1: Andy Reid's been a head coach now for thirty years
58:34
Speaker 1: and before that was a prominent assistant on the Packers
58:36
Speaker 1: for another ten and in college. So it's like, think
58:40
Speaker 1: about this guy reminds me of that guy? Now. Sometimes listen,
58:44
Speaker 1: every humans different. You get it wrong and it bites
58:46
Speaker 1: in the ass, or you're like, he reminds me of
58:49
Speaker 1: that guy that I hated, and then we don't draft
58:51
Speaker 1: him and he goes on to be a great member
58:52
Speaker 1: of society and a Hall of Famer. It's hard, it is.
58:58
Speaker 1: I would say there aren't many billion dollar businesses that
59:01
Speaker 1: are this predicated on humans, especially we're humans, are your
59:05
Speaker 1: number one asset? And you say coaches too, right, I mean,
59:08
Speaker 1: look look at the guy that just got fired, you
59:12
Speaker 1: know in Washington. Whatever happened there. I don't know any
59:16
Speaker 1: of the details besides the duy, and clearly something happened
59:20
Speaker 1: there they didn't feel comfortable with. Well, they just hired
59:23
Speaker 1: the guy. So imagine this. Do you think if they
59:26
Speaker 1: would have known the situation they were going to be in,
59:28
Speaker 1: they would have hired that guy. Of course not. Now
59:31
Speaker 1: the question is that he just have an awful moment
59:34
Speaker 1: or are there some question marks behind the guy? And
59:37
Speaker 1: is that a reflection of the hiring process, because that's
59:39
Speaker 1: the other thing. For a head coach or a GM,
59:42
Speaker 1: it's not just the players. Your assistant coaches represent the organization.
59:46
Speaker 1: They're prominent people making a lot of money. Your high
59:49
Speaker 1: level executives are guys making a lot of money. You know,
59:52
Speaker 1: some assistant gms are making seven figures. Obviously coordinators are
59:56
Speaker 1: making seven figures. So it's like there's a lot of
59:59
Speaker 1: pressure on them to operate it at a mature level.
1:00:03
Speaker 1: And in theory, a lot of these guys should be
1:00:05
Speaker 1: older than most players, that they even have more of
1:00:08
Speaker 1: a responsibility. That's why it is business so fascinating and
1:00:14
Speaker 1: it doesn't bore me because it's the people business, you know,
1:00:18
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, I watch I Throw on CNBC
1:00:21
Speaker 1: in the morning on TV just to get my mind
1:00:24
Speaker 1: work and see what the markets are doing. Like they
1:00:27
Speaker 1: can just bounce around different companies, right, Oh, this product
1:00:30
Speaker 1: for Apple fail, Let's go to the video, let's go
1:00:32
Speaker 1: to space. They just jump around. But it's all just products.
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Speaker 1: It's like, you know, you talk, you listen to a
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Speaker 1: couple of CEO's talk. Think of all the people we're
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Speaker 1: talking about. People are fascinating, right, What do you talk about?
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Speaker 1: Like when you go to some interesting place, you people
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Speaker 1: watch And that's kind of what football is with just
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Speaker 1: all these different personalities, backgrounds, situations, things that happen to
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Speaker 1: people that are kind of like a microcosm to societ.
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Speaker 1: Some stuff that I don't even think you could make
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Speaker 1: up if you tried. Other stuff that we've seen happen
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Speaker 1: time and time again, like trade requests. Humans you know,
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Speaker 1: find themselves in similar predicaments over and over. Feel very
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Speaker 1: fortunate to cover the sport because it's it's fucking interesting
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Speaker 1: on a daily basis. We will talk tomorrow. Have a
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Speaker 1: great day, Audios. The volume