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Speaker 1: First up, am I the a hole boyfriend's best friend
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Speaker 1: got him a sweater with her face on it for Christmas.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it upon myself to have a naughty
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Speaker 1: and nice list on here, So instead of an a hole,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna say, if you're naughty, you're nice. So far
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Speaker 1: you're nice, and this is this is justified and I
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Speaker 1: don't even need to read this. Really, let's just move on.
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Speaker 1: Boyfriend told me his best friend wanted to get awkward
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Speaker 1: family photos taken at a department store while wearing ugly
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Speaker 1: Christmas sweaters. Fine by me, fun little thing for them
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Speaker 1: to do. But today he calls me and tells me
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Speaker 1: she gave him the sweater they were gonna wear, and
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Speaker 1: it's a custom made sweater with her dogs and her
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Speaker 1: face on it. He made it clear he didn't know
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Speaker 1: about it and doesn't want me to feel like he's
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Speaker 1: wearing another woman's face like he loves her, but more
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Speaker 1: like he loves her dogs. It more so threw us
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Speaker 1: both off, as it's extra. At least he's speaking up
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Speaker 1: about it. That's all I've just say so far. So far,
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Speaker 1: he's on my nice list. We've talked about this girl
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Speaker 1: multiple times and my feelings about them and boundaries. He
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Speaker 1: only recently changed her name in his phone as half
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Speaker 1: girlfriend from an inside joke. Back to the naughty lists, Well,
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Speaker 1: he's just on the naughty list. Right now. I don't
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Speaker 1: like that at all. She's also on the naughty list
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Speaker 1: the friend anyway, and it also upset his ex, and
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Speaker 1: it took me telling him it made me uncomfortable for
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Speaker 1: him to change it. Okay, so already has an X
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Speaker 1: because of this friend. This is bad. This is very
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Speaker 1: very bed. I know he sees me as a priority
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Speaker 1: over her, but I can't help but feel uncomfortable about this.
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Speaker 1: Am I the alehole? Am I the naughty one? Now?
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Speaker 1: This is strange. And I know that people can have
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Speaker 1: friends that are girls or boys or whatever, you know,
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Speaker 1: but when it crosses into this territory and you've set boundaries,
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Speaker 1: but he's still like treading on thin ice, you know,
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Speaker 1: pun intended with the whole Christmas thing, he's just not
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Speaker 1: I feel like there's still there's not enough respect. I
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Speaker 1: don't know. This one's tough. First comment said, Okay, so
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Speaker 1: I read this to my boyfriend, and both of us
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Speaker 1: audibly said, ew, when we read that your boyfriend had
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Speaker 1: changed her name to half girlfriend, that's where that's where
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Speaker 1: I just flipped the switch. I agree, they're clearly emotionally involved.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if he doesn't take it seriously. She
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Speaker 1: most likely has feelings for him, and it's inappropriate even
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Speaker 1: if he doesn't feel the same. Yeah, I have no
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Speaker 1: doubt in my mind that she is in love with
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Speaker 1: you with your man, just because you know. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: You just know sometimes and then the other comments just say,
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Speaker 1: like half girlfriend, this is weird. Frankly, I'm surprised you're
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Speaker 1: still in the relationship. But that's coming from someone who
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Speaker 1: dealt with the girl best friend before. Yes, sometimes you
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Speaker 1: just got to go through that, you know. But luckily
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Speaker 1: we have an update and it's from the same day,
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Speaker 1: nineteen hours later. I really didn't expect my first post
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Speaker 1: to get the response it did. Wow. But here's an
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Speaker 1: update on the situation. Last night, I work New Year's Eve.
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Speaker 1: This is from last year while my boyfriend had the
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Speaker 1: night off. He was going to get the Christmas photos
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Speaker 1: taken with his best friend, but when they realized the
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Speaker 1: store was closed, they just went over to her place
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Speaker 1: to hang out. Okay, he looked me in the eyes
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Speaker 1: before I left and told me he wasn't going to drink.
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Speaker 1: But when I called him after I go out of work,
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Speaker 1: he was drunk as his best friend told him to
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Speaker 1: do shots. He's gotten drunk at her place before and
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Speaker 1: stayed the night without telling me before why are we
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Speaker 1: in this relationship stuff? So I really didn't know if
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Speaker 1: he was planning on staying or not. I was upset
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Speaker 1: and he could tell and asked me to pick him up.
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Speaker 1: I'm assuming, except it would be an hour worth of
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Speaker 1: driving for me after an extra day of work to
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Speaker 1: go pick him up. Thankfully, someone gave him a ride home.
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Speaker 1: I ended up going home, calling a friend of mine
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Speaker 1: and talking things through. He agreed that the sweater thing
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Speaker 1: was weird. And the time I'm on the phone, my
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Speaker 1: boyfriend calls me five times. I eventually hang up and
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Speaker 1: call my boyfriend. He's crying and a mess and I
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Speaker 1: can barely understand him, so I get up to go.
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Speaker 1: I've had a history of bad panic attacks and I
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Speaker 1: know how bad they are and didn't want him to
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Speaker 1: be alone. Okay, good girlfriend. A ward goes to you.
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Speaker 1: He had a mental health episode and kept spewing self
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Speaker 1: hate and asked did he do so? Mad? Missus claws
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Speaker 1: has her senses tingling right now, but we'll see, and
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Speaker 1: asking me what I saw in him not living up
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Speaker 1: to his potential On top of a lot of other
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Speaker 1: things that I didn't understand in the exhaustion and drunkenness.
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Speaker 1: Drunk thoughts are sober words, are they not? I don't
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Speaker 1: really know. I let him stay the night at my
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Speaker 1: place because I knew he didn't want to be alone,
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Speaker 1: and I was worried about him. But soon after we
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Speaker 1: got home, he threw his empty vape across the room
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Speaker 1: and started beating his fists on the couch and yelling,
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Speaker 1: complaining about a game. I was getting incredibly concerned because
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Speaker 1: I'd never seen him act like this. He almost immediately
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Speaker 1: passed out after the outbursts. Though, God, this sounds scary.
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Speaker 1: He admitted he doesn't know what's been going on, but
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Speaker 1: his mental health has been in a bad space lately.
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Speaker 1: Last week we got into a bad fight while we
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Speaker 1: were drunk, with yelling and crying. We talked things through, though,
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Speaker 1: and I'd figured we'd talked things through when we woke up,
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Speaker 1: but I already wanted to send him home and be
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Speaker 1: alone with his violent behavior, but he started crying when
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Speaker 1: I brought it up. He spent most of the day
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Speaker 1: sick in the bathroom. He said he only did two
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Speaker 1: shots all night. Okay, so I'm not sure if he's lying,
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Speaker 1: or if he just ended up with a stomach bug
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Speaker 1: at a bad time. Fair, okay. If it's not a
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Speaker 1: common theme, then all right. At one point he was
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Speaker 1: in the bathroom and his phone wouldn't stop ringing. After
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Speaker 1: the third phone call, I got up to look and
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Speaker 1: the call was from half girlfriend with two heart emojis
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Speaker 1: beside the name jarring. Okay, that's just like so I
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Speaker 1: need to stop putting hearts beside the name. That is
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Speaker 1: so brave of this guy. He just I feel like
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Speaker 1: he thinks he can just walk all over this girl.
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Speaker 1: I feel so bad. The moment he came back out,
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Speaker 1: I told him he was leaving and he was single,
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Speaker 1: and I would be ordering a lift for him home.
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Speaker 1: Oh fuck, say Charity, now she knows you were all right.
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Speaker 1: The half girlfriend thing was a big red flag. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: as weird as a sweater was. It hurt me the
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Speaker 1: first time he said it, and we discussed it, and
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Speaker 1: he said it was a joke, but promised he understood
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Speaker 1: and would change it in his phone. When I brought
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Speaker 1: it up to him, he said that she had asked
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Speaker 1: him to change it back, so he did. I told
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Speaker 1: him he chosen her over me. Yeah, Oh my god, Like,
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Speaker 1: how hard is it to say, no, I have a girlfriend. Well,
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Speaker 1: he doesn't care because he's in love with her and
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Speaker 1: they probably have done terrible things together. Well, he was
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Speaker 1: with you, so he doesn't care. What a terrible person.
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Speaker 1: Naughty List times x For the next fifty years, he's
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Speaker 1: on the Naughty List. Just you know what, in perpetuity,
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Speaker 1: he's on the naughty List. The history behind the name
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Speaker 1: is that my boyfriend used to live with her and
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Speaker 1: her ex, and her ex was so terrible that by comparison,
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Speaker 1: my boyfriend was better than her, and so she would
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Speaker 1: call him her half boyfriend. My boyfriend actually has asked
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Speaker 1: her out in the past, Oh my god. But she
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Speaker 1: rejected him, saying they were better as just friends, and
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Speaker 1: he agreed, saying he didn't want a dater. And now
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Speaker 1: she's just jealous. You're with him, and he's something she
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Speaker 1: can't have now at that tale's old time. Obviously, though,
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Speaker 1: she has no respect for me or for my relationship
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Speaker 1: and can't trust my boyfriend when he's around her, so
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Speaker 1: he is no longer my boyfriend. I'm a bit of
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Speaker 1: a mess right now, to be honest, I'm exhausted from
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Speaker 1: dealing with him and not sleeping because of it, and
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Speaker 1: all this is made worse by the fact we work
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Speaker 1: together and our coworkers have been very supportive. But I
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Speaker 1: feel like I've made the right choice in breaking up.
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Speaker 1: Oh that sucks. It work together too, God, here's to
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Speaker 1: starting off twenty twenty five single. Good job, girl, good job.
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Speaker 1: I'm proud of you. That was the only choice. That
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Speaker 1: was a right choice, because this was just gonna go
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Speaker 1: downhill from there. I'm gonna take out my anger on
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Speaker 1: your behalf, on Pete. Anyway, let's move on, all right?
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Speaker 1: Next up? Am I the a hole? Am I the
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Speaker 1: naughty person? Am I the asshole? For telling my brother
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Speaker 1: he cannot stay with me over Christmas if he brings
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Speaker 1: his prosthetic leg. Okay, it sounds familiar. I think I
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Speaker 1: watched Smash. Read this my friend's at Smash. Hi guys,
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Speaker 1: I love you guys so much. But there's a new
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Speaker 1: update to the story. So if you have watched Smash
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Speaker 1: like I have, and you know the story, I don't
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Speaker 1: remember how it goes though. Anyway, let's read the whole story.
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Speaker 1: My younger brother has a prosthetic leg. I think it's
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Speaker 1: creepy as and I have no idea where he got it. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so it's not his leg. This is very strange. I'm
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Speaker 1: reasonably certain that it is something I would rather not know.
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Speaker 1: To be clear here, my brother has two perfectly healthy
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Speaker 1: legs still attached to his body. Okay, oh yeah that okay,
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Speaker 1: yeah right, Okay. He just has this thing he takes
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Speaker 1: with him everywhere. I don't know why. I don't want
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Speaker 1: to know before you ask. Yeah, it is probably a
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Speaker 1: mental health thing. Yeah, maybe, I don't know what that
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Speaker 1: would be interesting. I like to collect some weird stuff. Okay,
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Speaker 1: that's on another level. And that someone's leg that costs
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Speaker 1: a lot of money. I'm going to continue. If he
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Speaker 1: wanted to stay with me rather than our parents while
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Speaker 1: he was home for the holidays, I said he was
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Speaker 1: welcome to stay, so long as he doesn't bring that
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Speaker 1: thing into my house. He said it wasn't a big
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Speaker 1: deal and that he would leave it in his luggage.
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Speaker 1: Why is he bringing it everywhere? I hate that. My
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Speaker 1: mind just immediately goes to something just, you know, kind
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Speaker 1: of nasty, because why could you be bringing it with you?
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Speaker 1: Or maybe it's just an emotional support leg for him.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I agree on the condition that if
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Speaker 1: I saw it outside of his luggage in my home,
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Speaker 1: then I had the right to destroy it. Maybe just
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Speaker 1: give it to I feel like this is somebody could
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Speaker 1: use this thing. He backtracked on staying with me and
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Speaker 1: is at our parents' house, where he is miserable. They
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Speaker 1: still treat him like a little boy instead of a
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Speaker 1: guy who was almost thirty. He called me again after
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Speaker 1: supper and asked to please stay with me. I said
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Speaker 1: he could, so long as we together took his thing
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Speaker 1: and put it into a storage unit until he leaves.
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Speaker 1: I get the key. He won't do it. What does
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Speaker 1: he have, like eight pounds of drugs in there or something?
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Speaker 1: What is happening? He says that I being a bitch
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Speaker 1: for not letting him stay with me. I think he
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Speaker 1: needs to get therapy or medication or both, or a girlfriend, boyfriend, dogcat,
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Speaker 1: hamster or something. Just not a GD prosthetic leg. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just concerned about the persons that, like,
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Speaker 1: where do you get this leg? Those need to be
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Speaker 1: fitted in stuff and tend to run pretty expensive. I
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Speaker 1: just feel bad, like this is a crime. I think
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty I don't know. Let's read the comments. First
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Speaker 1: one says, I'm a prosthesis and I have to ask,
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Speaker 1: what does the leg even look like below the knee?
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Speaker 1: Above the knee fair enough? Does it just have the
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Speaker 1: pylon bar or is it a foam covering so that
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Speaker 1: it sort of looks like a leg? Is there a
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Speaker 1: footshell or is it the foot component just sort of
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Speaker 1: hanging out. The reason I'm asking is because a prosthetic
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Speaker 1: anything is mind bogglingly expensive. B. You can't just have
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Speaker 1: a prosthetic leg if you have two perfectly healthy legs,
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Speaker 1: you literally need to stump to make one that's specific,
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Speaker 1: specifically yours. Did your brother receive it from some one?
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Speaker 1: Did he steal it? And just to be sure it's
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Speaker 1: an actual prosthesis and not a leg brace of some kind.
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Speaker 1: I've had patients of families make that mistake before. OHP
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Speaker 1: says it looks like a carbon fiber cup with a
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Speaker 1: steel knee and lower leg and foot. That seems like
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Speaker 1: top notch. The ext comment says, oh jesus Aka, prosthesis
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Speaker 1: are not cheap. That's an entire car right there. I
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Speaker 1: would actually grill your bro on where he got it,
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Speaker 1: because it's one hundred percent not his if he stole it,
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Speaker 1: he's looking at felony grand theft charges. Oh yeah, I
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Speaker 1: mean that would get rid of the problem to be like, hey,
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Speaker 1: you need to return this from where you got it,
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Speaker 1: or give it to somebody, say you like, you need
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Speaker 1: to give it back because that's a crime. And if
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Speaker 1: you don't, you got to rat your brother out, or
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Speaker 1: how I don't, or you take it, you give it back.
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Speaker 1: I don't really know. Well, you do make sure he
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Speaker 1: does not try to sell the prosthesis or any of
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Speaker 1: its components. I get that they can be hard to
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Speaker 1: get for the people who need the most, but if
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Speaker 1: the components are damaged in any way, they can lead
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Speaker 1: to gnarling injuries for when they inevitably fail. This is terrible.
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Speaker 1: He is definitely on the nautilist. Oh my god, an
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Speaker 1: emotional support prosthetic leg. That's a new one. That's when
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Speaker 1: I said, yeah, what is this? I need to know
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Speaker 1: more information to me it. Where's the update update? I
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Speaker 1: didn't realize how much attention this was going to get,
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Speaker 1: enough that someone informed the woman my brother stole it
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Speaker 1: from no way. Yeah, like, how many people are missing,
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Speaker 1: like a twenty thousand dollars leg I'm sure that's yeah.
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Speaker 1: By you posting this, you probably read, which is probably good.
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Speaker 1: That's karma. It's karma for being on the natilist. And
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Speaker 1: she was able to figure out what happened. She called
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Speaker 1: the cops and he got arrested. No way. I guess
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Speaker 1: he was sort of trying to do the thing where
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Speaker 1: he could be the hero that tracked down her leg.
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Speaker 1: This guy is wild. He wanted to be the hero,
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Speaker 1: so he stole her leg to give it back to her.
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Speaker 1: Would how would he know that that it's her leg?
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Speaker 1: Did he think this throw? Please don't ask me what
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Speaker 1: the was going through his head? The leg was expensive
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Speaker 1: enough that he's facing real criminal charges. That's all. Sorry,
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Speaker 1: there was no where to tell what that is. Bonkers.
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Speaker 1: Good thing. We have another update, so it's finally over.
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Speaker 1: My brother had to go to court after being charged
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Speaker 1: with several crimes, the most serious being felony theft. There
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Speaker 1: you go, kids, don't steal a prosthetic leg or just
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Speaker 1: prosthetic anything, because that's really bad. But you'll also go
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Speaker 1: to jail or get criminal charges. Let's see how this pandemic.
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Speaker 1: I will just put the bullet points of results. Found
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Speaker 1: guilty because he was too stupid to dig a plea deal.
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Speaker 1: He still he had the leg. Okay, this guy is
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Speaker 1: incredibly dumb, all right or whatever. I had to serve
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Speaker 1: some time incarcerated and now has parole. Managed to avoid
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Speaker 1: being charged with a situable crime. My parents paid to
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Speaker 1: have the leg reconditioned or whatever it's called. A professional
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Speaker 1: prosthetic device's mechanic got it back in working condition. The
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Speaker 1: woman got her leg back, as well as some money
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Speaker 1: in restitution. She deserves it. She's on the nice list forever.
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Speaker 1: He is not welcome up my home with or without
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Speaker 1: any prosthetic for the foreseeable future. The woman has a
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Speaker 1: restraining order against him indefinitely. That adds up. That checks out.
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Speaker 1: That makes sense. That's all there is to tell. Hope,
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Speaker 1: this answers everyone's questions. Thanks for still caring about this
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Speaker 1: weird experience in my life. Dude, What if I found
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Speaker 1: a prosthetic leg? I don't even know where you'd go
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Speaker 1: to figure out whose it is, But I wouldn't keep it.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't keep it. That's wild. Well, that's garma. That's garma.
17:29
Speaker 1: Now much to say about that? That's wild. Let's move on,
17:32
Speaker 1: all right, Next up. How do I, thirty one female
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Speaker 1: handle my awful sister in law thirty three female at
17:38
Speaker 1: my boyfriend thirty male's family Christmas. That was a lot
17:42
Speaker 1: of numbers, all right, everybody's thirty ish, got it? My
17:45
Speaker 1: thirty one female boyfriend thirty male and I have been
17:48
Speaker 1: together for three years. We have gotten to know each
17:51
Speaker 1: other's families quite well, as we live nearby and can
17:54
Speaker 1: visit often. I love my boyfriend's family, except his brother's
17:58
Speaker 1: thirty three male long term girlfriend thirty three female call
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Speaker 1: her sister in law for simplicity in the title fair enough,
18:05
Speaker 1: Thank you, queen. Let's call my boyfriend James. His brother
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Speaker 1: will be Mike, and his brother's girlfriend Kelly. I like
18:11
Speaker 1: when people use names. All right, Kelly and Mike have
18:13
Speaker 1: been dating for five and a half years. I truly
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Speaker 1: believe she is well intentioned, but oh my god, she's
18:19
Speaker 1: freaking terrible to be around. I get along with almost
18:22
Speaker 1: everyone I meet, but being around her actively makes me
18:24
Speaker 1: feel like I'm losing brain cells. Crap. We are polar opposites,
18:29
Speaker 1: but that's not why she's terrible. She makes wildly inappropriate
18:32
Speaker 1: comments to everyone around her, has no sense of self awareness,
18:36
Speaker 1: and thinks the world owes her something. A not self
18:38
Speaker 1: aware queen, got it. Kelly and Mike are not in
18:42
Speaker 1: a good financial position. Kelly is unable to work because
18:44
Speaker 1: of her traumatic childhood, and Mike works fifty hours a week.
18:48
Speaker 1: Ooh in construction. Oh god, that's that's a lot. That's crazy.
18:52
Speaker 1: He busts his butt to provide for them, and she
18:54
Speaker 1: spends her days at the local bar with the local
18:57
Speaker 1: riff raff. Riff raff, I'm sorry that is that's a
19:01
Speaker 1: crazy term to use in this day and age. I
19:04
Speaker 1: like it. Then complains about not being able to afford
19:07
Speaker 1: to buy a three bedroom, two bathroom home on several
19:09
Speaker 1: acres of land in our h col state. Okay, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: so she wants the world give it to her on
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Speaker 1: a silver platter. Uh tail ashold as Anyway, for Christmas,
19:20
Speaker 1: my boyfriend's parents are hosting celebrations and we are doing
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Speaker 1: a small gift exchange with a max budget of ten
19:25
Speaker 1: dollars a person. And then everyone drew a name from
19:28
Speaker 1: a hat and we get that person one gift of
19:30
Speaker 1: up to fifty dollars. Total spend is one hundred each.
19:34
Speaker 1: All right, you know a little up there, but that's
19:36
Speaker 1: like fair to give like multiple gifts and everybody. Okay,
19:38
Speaker 1: so everyone gets one big gift and a couple of
19:42
Speaker 1: small things. At first, we had no budget, but Mike
19:44
Speaker 1: was concerned about being able to participate, so we set
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Speaker 1: a budget and James slipped Mike two hundred dollars so
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Speaker 1: he wouldn't have to worry about it. It's really sweet.
19:52
Speaker 1: It's not secret Santa, so everyone knows who drew which name.
19:55
Speaker 1: James drew Kelly's name and immediately she started sending him
19:59
Speaker 1: links to things that were one hundred dollars plus for
20:01
Speaker 1: him to get her classic. He reminded her of the
20:04
Speaker 1: budget that we set to benefit them, and she said,
20:07
Speaker 1: you can afford it. These are the only things I want. Okay,
20:10
Speaker 1: all right, Princess, and made it worse by saying, Mike
20:13
Speaker 1: drew your name and we're getting you something nicer than
20:16
Speaker 1: fifty dollars. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt
20:18
Speaker 1: that she may not know James gave Mike two hundred
20:21
Speaker 1: dollars to help them out. Yeah, that's a bit embarrassing
20:24
Speaker 1: for her to be like, oh, we are getting you something.
20:26
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, with my own money, what are you
20:28
Speaker 1: talking about anyway. She hounded James about it being unfair
20:32
Speaker 1: that they suffer while we have so much, so clearly
20:35
Speaker 1: he can afford to get her a nicer gift. Both
20:37
Speaker 1: James and I are very uncomfortable, but we both worked
20:40
Speaker 1: hard for everything we have. She insulted him, called him greedy,
20:43
Speaker 1: told him that he's selfish and only cares about himself
20:45
Speaker 1: in the fancy life he lives with me, and that
20:48
Speaker 1: Mike and her resent him for abandoning them. Bitch what
20:51
Speaker 1: James is the kind of person who would give his
20:53
Speaker 1: last dollar away, the shoes off his feet in a snowstorm,
20:56
Speaker 1: and who acts tough but is actually just a big softy.
20:59
Speaker 1: A lot of people take advantage of that, and he caved.
21:02
Speaker 1: Bless is hard. Oh that's so sweet, but like terrible
21:05
Speaker 1: that he's being taken advantage of. But you know, he
21:08
Speaker 1: got her a fancy, over budget gift. James and Mike's
21:11
Speaker 1: parents just kind of rolled their eyes at her when
21:13
Speaker 1: she makes weird and appropriate comments, and their mom has
21:16
Speaker 1: confided in me that she's happy at least James picked
21:19
Speaker 1: a normal one and that she's glad she doesn't have
21:22
Speaker 1: to take care of both of her sons into adulthood.
21:25
Speaker 1: They are completely unaware of what's happening behind the scenes
21:27
Speaker 1: between Kelly and James. I'm not afraid of confrontation, but
21:30
Speaker 1: don't want to ruin Christmas by losing my shit at her.
21:33
Speaker 1: She's bound to say something or do something because she
21:36
Speaker 1: always does, and I really don't know if I can
21:38
Speaker 1: bite my tongue much longer. I am furious at her.
21:41
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm going to explode if she makes
21:43
Speaker 1: one offhand comment or snide remark that I'm betting it'll
21:47
Speaker 1: only take twenty minutes for her to say something stupid.
21:49
Speaker 1: It's not about the gift. We don't care about the money.
21:52
Speaker 1: To me, this is the icing on the cake of
21:54
Speaker 1: her already poor behavior. To James, it's just another thing
21:57
Speaker 1: he wants to let slide because he loves his brother
21:59
Speaker 1: and it may Mike's life easier if Kelly is happy
22:02
Speaker 1: and not complaining. Gosh, those people are the worst, the
22:04
Speaker 1: people that have the whole world revolves around them and
22:07
Speaker 1: they make everybody feel shitty. If they feel shitty, it's
22:10
Speaker 1: just like, Ah, They're just toxic. It's like a disease.
22:13
Speaker 1: Though it's terrible, How can I navigate this and stop
22:16
Speaker 1: her from taking advantage of James in the future. Talking
22:19
Speaker 1: to her rationally is futile. James did try that, and
22:22
Speaker 1: that's how we're here. Damn. You know. I feel like, right,
22:25
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be like cut her off, dude, cut
22:27
Speaker 1: her off, get her out of her life, you know,
22:29
Speaker 1: sabotage her relationship. Maybe not that far, but I don't know.
22:33
Speaker 1: If uh, Mike, which is her boyfriend, isn't willing to
22:39
Speaker 1: leave hers fine with being with her or whatever, then
22:42
Speaker 1: maybe it's like distancing yourself from them if they're not
22:46
Speaker 1: willing or if she's not willing to change her behavior.
22:49
Speaker 1: And I don't think she will. I think this is
22:51
Speaker 1: just who she is, you know. I don't think she's
22:53
Speaker 1: changing anytime soon. So it's like, do you just distance yourself?
22:57
Speaker 1: And then maybe Mike starts to get the idea. He's like,
23:00
Speaker 1: oh crap, my whole family doesn't like my girlfriend. But
23:05
Speaker 1: I don't know. This is tough. This is really tough
23:07
Speaker 1: because you want him to be happy. You got to
23:09
Speaker 1: keep her happy for him to be happy. And he's
23:12
Speaker 1: really nice, and James, your boyfriend's really nice. It's just
23:15
Speaker 1: like a bunch of nice people surrounded by one evil,
23:19
Speaker 1: conniving bis not. You know what I mean, It's unfortunate.
23:22
Speaker 1: I want to see what the comment said. Comment says.
23:24
Speaker 1: Whenever she says something stupid, reply with a simple what
23:27
Speaker 1: an odd thing to say and walk away. You can
23:30
Speaker 1: omit the odd part when it doesn't fit the statement. Yeah,
23:33
Speaker 1: that's good, like little little not even passive aggressive one
23:37
Speaker 1: would be a little bit, but just like it's an
23:39
Speaker 1: odd thing to say, just like embarrassment without you coming
23:43
Speaker 1: down to their level. That is. That is a really nice,
23:45
Speaker 1: refined little statement. I'm putting that in my pocket. It's
23:49
Speaker 1: saving it for later, okay, op says. As an example
23:51
Speaker 1: of things, she says, Okay, this is what I wanted.
23:54
Speaker 1: My boyfriend has a cousin who had a car accident
23:56
Speaker 1: and one of their legs has a severe burn scar
24:00
Speaker 1: on it that covers like half their leg. Cousin was
24:02
Speaker 1: wearing Schwartz when he first met Kelly. First words out
24:05
Speaker 1: of Kelly's mouth were, WHOA, what the happened to your leg? Okay, yeah,
24:12
Speaker 1: she's just yeah, it's just not a good person. The
24:17
Speaker 1: person says, it's awful. I do like your suggestion. My
24:19
Speaker 1: facial expressions you should speak for me. But with how
24:22
Speaker 1: she spoke to James, I'm living a commentary. She said.
24:25
Speaker 1: Imagine how hard what a weird thing to say to
24:27
Speaker 1: that to a person would have hit locked and loaded
24:30
Speaker 1: with this one for Christmas? For sure. I love that.
24:32
Speaker 1: But we have an update, so let's read it. Thank
24:34
Speaker 1: you to everyone who commented this is rather anticlimactic update. Damn,
24:38
Speaker 1: that's okay. Now Christmas was actually lovely. Okay, that's good.
24:41
Speaker 1: Kelly behaved for the most parts, though of course made
24:43
Speaker 1: a few left field comments, using mother in law and
24:46
Speaker 1: father in law for simplicity. But my boyfriend and I
24:48
Speaker 1: are not married. Here are some examples. Mother in law
24:51
Speaker 1: opened a gift. It was a Turkey baster, Kelly exclaimed,
24:54
Speaker 1: whoa father in law trying to get her pregnant again.
24:57
Speaker 1: Mother in law and father in law are in their seventies,
25:00
Speaker 1: Turkey based. Oh god, And you know there are some
25:03
Speaker 1: families in which this would work if like she's you know,
25:07
Speaker 1: a funny person, comedian of the family or something. But
25:10
Speaker 1: just knowing that everyone in that room like doesn't like
25:14
Speaker 1: her and just like is annoyed by her, and just
25:17
Speaker 1: saying that it's just like you not I don't know.
25:20
Speaker 1: The awkward pause happens after that turns to me and
25:23
Speaker 1: James and goes, actually, I'm surprised it's not you, and
25:27
Speaker 1: on recommendations from Reddit, I laughingly responded, what an uncomfortable
25:30
Speaker 1: thing to say.
25:31
Speaker 2: Oh you said that this was anticlimactic. That's climactic to me. Oh,
25:37
Speaker 2: I love it. Kelly went on about how she expected
25:40
Speaker 2: after we took a two week vacation we would be
25:42
Speaker 2: sharing a pregnancy announcement.
25:44
Speaker 1: I responded, well, that's kind of weird. I love you
25:48
Speaker 1: for that. I could not do this, so that's why
25:49
Speaker 1: I love it so much. I got James a gag
25:51
Speaker 1: gift that says some sensual innuindow on the butt of
25:55
Speaker 1: a pair of pants. Kelly kept making comments about no
25:58
Speaker 1: one needs to know the details of you. You know,
26:01
Speaker 1: your spicy tango life. You just talked about your in
26:05
Speaker 1: laws working with a turkey baser. What are you talking about? Kelly?
26:10
Speaker 1: Despite that, the pants were a joke, and this was
26:12
Speaker 1: repeated all night, but I just ignored it. Otherwise, we
26:15
Speaker 1: had a great time and a great family gathering. I
26:17
Speaker 1: wish I had something more exciting, but the answered I
26:19
Speaker 1: got helped me have a few responses in my arsenal
26:22
Speaker 1: to respond to her weird comments and otherwise ignored her.
26:24
Speaker 1: That's fantastic. I'm proud of you. Nice list for all
26:28
Speaker 1: of your lifetimes. All right, that's fantastic. Same for your boyfriend.
26:31
Speaker 1: What a nice guy. I think you guys handled that
26:33
Speaker 1: really nice. I am very excited to say that today's
26:36
Speaker 1: video is brought to you by Legend of Zulk. For
26:40
Speaker 1: those of you who don't know, my husband and I
26:42
Speaker 1: have been getting into game development over the past i'd
26:45
Speaker 1: say year, and we started with a mobile game, which
26:48
Speaker 1: is Legend of Zulk. And here he is. It's me.
26:54
Speaker 1: I'm are real awesome, I get this? Is it? Make
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27:05
Speaker 1: on iPhone right now though soon Android soon. It's a
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27:13
Speaker 1: better because it has Zulk. And also we want this
27:17
Speaker 1: game to be as great as possible, and since we
27:20
Speaker 1: made it, we can change it. So we want your
27:23
Speaker 1: guys' feedback. Exactly where can they go to get feedback? Zulk?
27:27
Speaker 1: Feedback to interactive at sour dot. Any ideas are welcome. Yeah, bugs, bugs, bugs, Yeah,
27:35
Speaker 1: there's bugs. Stop the thing is really I like them?
27:44
Speaker 1: Can I hate too much candy? This game is also
27:51
Speaker 1: and also has Sour Boys in it. We made it
27:53
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28:00
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Speaker 1: husband up Pavil, tag umpavel who's definitely not controlling him
28:10
Speaker 1: right now. I feel like I'm cheating on you, even
28:16
Speaker 1: though you're right there. Okay, look at this fun up
28:23
Speaker 1: family come into the thing. Our first child, Zilk. Yeah,
28:30
Speaker 1: if you guys want to play the game, we'd really
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Speaker 1: appreciate that. Give us all the feedback. It's not perfect,
28:34
Speaker 1: but we are really proud of it. So go get
28:37
Speaker 1: legend as Alk on the app store now. And with that,
28:39
Speaker 1: let's move on to the last one. I've been hiding
28:42
Speaker 1: this from my husband all year, and he's going to
28:44
Speaker 1: find out on Christmas. I'm scared. Every year I do
28:48
Speaker 1: a savings challenge and give it to my husband on Christmas.
28:51
Speaker 1: It's become a tradition that started years ago when I
28:53
Speaker 1: noticed how stressed he gets about finances, especially around the holidays.
28:57
Speaker 1: He's the only income earner for our family five. We
29:00
Speaker 1: have three kiddos and gift receiving just isn't his love language.
29:04
Speaker 1: But I couldn't bear to do nothing for him, so
29:07
Speaker 1: I found a loophole. Oh is this going to be wholesome? Oh,
29:10
Speaker 1: it's going to be whole thumb. The first year, I
29:12
Speaker 1: saved up money from a little side hustle and bought
29:15
Speaker 1: a little bit of gold every month. It was the
29:18
Speaker 1: smallest box under the tree, but to this day he
29:20
Speaker 1: still says it was his favorite gift. Ever. The whole
29:23
Speaker 1: point is to show him how much I see and
29:25
Speaker 1: appreciate the financial weight he carries, and to give him
29:28
Speaker 1: something that's one hundred percent stress free. Since then, I've
29:32
Speaker 1: tried to get creative. One year it was antique coins,
29:35
Speaker 1: another year it was silver. This is really screat This
29:38
Speaker 1: year I got one of those smashed to open picky
29:41
Speaker 1: banks and secretly started adding to it. It's been sitting
29:44
Speaker 1: on our dresser all year, in plain sight, disguised as
29:47
Speaker 1: a plant stand. He looks right at it multiple times
29:51
Speaker 1: a day, yet has no clue. I can't wait to
29:53
Speaker 1: wrap it up with a hammer and watch him open
29:55
Speaker 1: it on Christmas morning. That's just adorable. Okay anyway, but
30:06
Speaker 1: now I need to plan something for next year. I'd
30:08
Speaker 1: love to hear your ideas for savings challenges or unique
30:11
Speaker 1: ways to gift savings, imaginary bonus points for ideas that
30:15
Speaker 1: are extra clever or have fun twists. Let's hear it.
30:18
Speaker 1: This is adorable. I love this so much. I'm a
30:22
Speaker 1: gift giver. I love giving gifts. It's definitely my love language.
30:27
Speaker 1: I have been planning Caleb's next birthday gift since his
30:33
Speaker 1: last birthday gift, which was August, so I already have
30:35
Speaker 1: a plan for this coming August. Is that crazy? Maybe? Okay,
30:39
Speaker 1: but I love it. It's my favorite thing. I respect
30:42
Speaker 1: this so much. I think it's adorable. I think it's
30:45
Speaker 1: very smart to think of ahead so you can just
30:47
Speaker 1: put little bit of savings here and there and to
30:49
Speaker 1: give something to him, and that he works so hard.
30:51
Speaker 1: That's so sweet. I just know these people have something
30:54
Speaker 1: really really special. Social notes, I just want to read
30:56
Speaker 1: the update, okay, update. I wanted him to have the
30:59
Speaker 1: first gift of Christmas, so I told him about my
31:02
Speaker 1: little secret on Christmas Eve. Watching all the dots connect
31:05
Speaker 1: and seeing his face light up was incredible, Like a
31:08
Speaker 1: kid on Christmas morning, and yes, I realize it practically
31:12
Speaker 1: was Christmas morning, but there's really no better way to
31:14
Speaker 1: describe that kind of joy. He loved it so much,
31:17
Speaker 1: we decided to get another one, but this time we
31:19
Speaker 1: will both add to it throughout the year and break
31:22
Speaker 1: it open together next Christmas. Oh okay, so the box
31:25
Speaker 1: he broke it open. That's really cute this Christmas. Then
31:28
Speaker 1: you're gonna do it again. Don't worry. I'm still going
31:30
Speaker 1: to do separate savings gift just for him. Pro tip,
31:32
Speaker 1: if you try this, have a bag or a box
31:34
Speaker 1: of something ready. I didn't, and he ended up smashing
31:37
Speaker 1: it open out of excitement right on our bed, thankfully
31:39
Speaker 1: on his side. That's really funny. That's really sweet. Oh
31:44
Speaker 1: that's funny. We have the plants to look at that.
31:47
Speaker 1: One of them's a little dicey. We got to cover
31:49
Speaker 1: that up, probably both of them, cover the both up.
31:52
Speaker 1: YouTube's crazy. That's really funny. And you know he's looked
31:55
Speaker 1: at that a lot. And the comments for ideas saying,
32:00
Speaker 1: go all in, plan a bank heist for next year. Oh,
32:04
Speaker 1: that's awesome, don't do that. That's awesome. That's really wholesome.
32:07
Speaker 1: But it was short, so let's read one more, all right.
32:10
Speaker 1: Last up, potentially is my twenty four female mother fifty
32:14
Speaker 1: six female overreacting about me wanting to spend Christmas as
32:17
Speaker 1: a newlywed with just my husband twenty seven male or
32:21
Speaker 1: am I in the wrong? Ooh, this will be good.
32:25
Speaker 1: We got two big Christmas families in my house, Okay,
32:28
Speaker 1: in our houses, so I can talk about this all right.
32:31
Speaker 1: I'm using a throwaway account since my main account is
32:33
Speaker 1: known by my family and friends. All right. I got
32:35
Speaker 1: married in September of this year to my boyfriend of
32:37
Speaker 1: five years. We chose to elope legally. It was more
32:40
Speaker 1: of a blessing owing to the difference between marriage laws
32:43
Speaker 1: in our home country and this one while on holiday
32:46
Speaker 1: in one of our favorite countries, congrat Squid. We then
32:48
Speaker 1: returned home and had a ceremony where we signed all
32:51
Speaker 1: of the official documents and legally became husband and wife.
32:54
Speaker 1: This was attended by our parents and siblings, so seven
32:57
Speaker 1: people in total. I promise this is all related to
32:59
Speaker 1: the overall you. This wasn't at all a spur. At
33:01
Speaker 1: the moment decision, we wanted a wedding exactly like this,
33:05
Speaker 1: something that everyone knew about and was seemingly on board
33:07
Speaker 1: with for me. For weddings, do what you want to do. Okay,
33:11
Speaker 1: it's your wedding. When the whole family gets involved, I
33:13
Speaker 1: get it's an important thing. But if it's your family,
33:16
Speaker 1: you're making a new family. Just do whatever you want.
33:18
Speaker 1: I already feel the tension rising, and I love it.
33:21
Speaker 1: So let's continue. For as many years as I can remember,
33:24
Speaker 1: I've wanted to spend my first Christmas as a married
33:27
Speaker 1: couple with the proviso that iviso okay, that we had
33:32
Speaker 1: our own place. Gotcha by this, I mean the day itself,
33:36
Speaker 1: cooking together, potentially burning the meal together, napping in front
33:40
Speaker 1: of a TV when the Queen's speech is on from England.
33:44
Speaker 1: I knew it when she said proviso. Love it. It's
33:47
Speaker 1: something I've always envisioned. I told my boyfriend about it
33:50
Speaker 1: years ago, and he loved the idea as much as me.
33:52
Speaker 1: To clarify, this would just be the day itself, not
33:55
Speaker 1: the whole festive period. This was something that mine and
33:58
Speaker 1: my husband's family were made away and both said they
34:01
Speaker 1: initially understood. We live around eighty miles from my family
34:05
Speaker 1: and one hundred and seventy miles from my husband's family.
34:08
Speaker 1: The initial plan was to see my boyfriend's family over
34:11
Speaker 1: this coming weekend and my parents on Boxing Day, so
34:14
Speaker 1: everyone's on board, but we know they're not. As Christmas
34:17
Speaker 1: has come closer, it's become clear that my family, namely
34:20
Speaker 1: my mother, has become increasingly uncomfortable with the fact that
34:23
Speaker 1: we're not going to be spending Christmas with either her
34:25
Speaker 1: or my husband's family. To give you an idea of
34:28
Speaker 1: past Christmases, for the first three years of our relationship,
34:31
Speaker 1: we spent Christmas apart, then spent Christmas with my family
34:34
Speaker 1: the year after, and last Christmas with my husband's family.
34:37
Speaker 1: My mother started by making comments that they are going
34:40
Speaker 1: to miss out on seeing me on Christmas for two
34:42
Speaker 1: years in a row, while my husband's parents are only
34:45
Speaker 1: missing out on one year. I pointed out that if
34:47
Speaker 1: we go to visit my parents next Christmas, then his
34:50
Speaker 1: parents won't have seen us for two years and so
34:52
Speaker 1: they'll be even but that wasn't a competition. In the
34:56
Speaker 1: slightest To highlight family structures, Christmas with my family is
35:00
Speaker 1: is with my parents, my brother and his girlfriend on
35:02
Speaker 1: alternate years. They are with them on this year, though,
35:05
Speaker 1: and my uncle mother's brother and his husband. Oh my god,
35:08
Speaker 1: there's so many things going on out right. My husband's
35:11
Speaker 1: family is his parents, his two brothers, and his mother's brother.
35:16
Speaker 1: So it's not as if either family is having a
35:19
Speaker 1: distinctly smaller Christmas if we're not attending. My mother has
35:22
Speaker 1: been asking if it's better to just post us our
35:25
Speaker 1: presence and implying that we won't be making the trip
35:27
Speaker 1: down to see them on Boxing Day. Again, I've shut
35:30
Speaker 1: her down about this. The reason I am posting this
35:33
Speaker 1: is that we rang my mother in law yesterday to
35:35
Speaker 1: confirm plans for visiting over the weekend, and she said
35:38
Speaker 1: that my mother had been in contact with her to
35:40
Speaker 1: ask if we were secretly spending Christmas with them and
35:44
Speaker 1: lying to my family about it. Oh, this hurts my
35:48
Speaker 1: brain so much. Why are people like this? Why do
35:52
Speaker 1: people like just assume things and like it's like, oh, wait,
35:55
Speaker 1: you're giving it. But just let people live their lives.
35:58
Speaker 1: You know, it's Christmas, Yes, it's about family, but they're
36:01
Speaker 1: making their own family right now, and they're saying they're
36:04
Speaker 1: prioritizing seeing you a Boxing day. They just want to
36:06
Speaker 1: spend the day together, And why is it? I don't
36:09
Speaker 1: get it. My family loves Christmas. Okay, so does Caleb's family,
36:14
Speaker 1: like both equally as much. It's a big deal. I
36:17
Speaker 1: love spending Christmas with my family. I live three thousand
36:20
Speaker 1: miles away from my family now. The Christmases are with
36:23
Speaker 1: Caleb and his family, but then I make an effort
36:25
Speaker 1: to go see them at a different part, kind of
36:27
Speaker 1: around the holidays, maybe a month before, kind of whenever
36:31
Speaker 1: it works, and they're fine with that. Same with my
36:33
Speaker 1: other siblings. It's just like there needs to be some
36:35
Speaker 1: grace when people turn into adults, things change. I feel
36:39
Speaker 1: like parents need to understand that. Like I get that
36:42
Speaker 1: it's about family, and I love family. I need to
36:44
Speaker 1: spend Christmas with family. That's very important to me. I
36:46
Speaker 1: just I don't really understand the very like the possessiveness,
36:49
Speaker 1: like you have to be at my house. You can't
36:52
Speaker 1: be at the daughter's house or the daughter's mother's house
36:55
Speaker 1: on this day because you have to. But you know
36:57
Speaker 1: what I mean, I'm ranting too much. Let's keep going.
36:59
Speaker 1: She told my mother that as far as she knew,
37:01
Speaker 1: we were sticking to our original plan for Christmas together
37:03
Speaker 1: and we definitely weren't going to them. It hurts that
37:06
Speaker 1: my mother thinks we're trying to get out of seeing them.
37:09
Speaker 1: My mother has been secretly raising the point that since
37:11
Speaker 1: our wedding that she disagreed with our choice to a
37:14
Speaker 1: lobe and that spending Christmas alone is an extension of that. Okay,
37:18
Speaker 1: your mother sounds like the problem too, all right, A
37:20
Speaker 1: little bit, not gonna lie. In the past few days
37:23
Speaker 1: she has said that she thinks we're alienating ourselves from
37:26
Speaker 1: the rest of the world. I disagree. We love spending
37:28
Speaker 1: time with both of our families, and our choice to
37:30
Speaker 1: a lope was due to a combination of cost and
37:32
Speaker 1: overall need. We don't have thousands of pounds to spend
37:35
Speaker 1: on just one day so that random cousins one or
37:39
Speaker 1: the other of us have never met can get loaded
37:42
Speaker 1: from an open bar. I agree with that wholeheartedly. I
37:46
Speaker 1: love when people decide, you know what, it's our wedding,
37:50
Speaker 1: we can save some go buy it an house or
37:53
Speaker 1: get an apartment or something, rather than spending tens of
37:56
Speaker 1: thousands of dollars on a wedding day. But whatever you want.
37:59
Speaker 1: Who am I saying? I'm just an idiot? Anyway. This
38:01
Speaker 1: was something that once again my mother said she completely understood.
38:04
Speaker 1: I just want to get the wider perspective to see
38:07
Speaker 1: if what I'm doing is out of line. As a
38:09
Speaker 1: final note, I do browse the sub and usually whenever
38:11
Speaker 1: anyone posts about their parents, the advice is to go
38:14
Speaker 1: to specific subreddits to call the parents of narcissists. I
38:18
Speaker 1: don't believe at all that my mother falls into that category.
38:21
Speaker 1: I believe that she's openly sharing her personal opinion and
38:23
Speaker 1: feelings with me, and she is completely justified in doing
38:26
Speaker 1: that without being at all narcissistic. I just want to
38:29
Speaker 1: see if I'm the one in the situation who's acting
38:32
Speaker 1: in the wrong. In simple terms, now, I think you're
38:36
Speaker 1: compromising by saying you're going to see them. You know,
38:39
Speaker 1: either I can't remember what it is like on the
38:41
Speaker 1: next day, on Boxing Day, or in the evening or
38:44
Speaker 1: on a different day. Christmas is a is a feeling,
38:51
Speaker 1: you know. It doesn't need to be on a it
38:53
Speaker 1: is on a specific day. But my gosh, I can't
38:55
Speaker 1: even tell you how many times we've celebrated Christmas with
38:59
Speaker 1: like different parts of the family on different days. It's
39:02
Speaker 1: just about who you're with and the relative time of year.
39:07
Speaker 1: To me, you know, obviously you know, it's about the
39:09
Speaker 1: birth of Jesus Christ and it's supposed to be on
39:11
Speaker 1: that day and all that kind of stuff. But I
39:14
Speaker 1: don't know. I just I don't see why this is
39:18
Speaker 1: the big deal. And if you know, if your mom
39:20
Speaker 1: wants to see you for the holidays, that's understandable. It's
39:23
Speaker 1: your mom, that's fair and same as your mother in law.
39:25
Speaker 1: It sounds like they really love you guys, which is wonderful,
39:28
Speaker 1: But I think they need to be a little bit
39:29
Speaker 1: more understanding, especially since it's your first Christmas as a
39:32
Speaker 1: married couple. You know, like, let you relish in that
39:35
Speaker 1: a little bit and then you'll figure it out on
39:37
Speaker 1: the years to come. And I mean, I'm sure you
39:39
Speaker 1: see them throughout the year as well. I don't know,
39:41
Speaker 1: it just seems like a big thing that doesn't need
39:44
Speaker 1: to be a big thing. Maybe just get like a
39:46
Speaker 1: big family meeting, you know, and talk to everybody. I
39:48
Speaker 1: feel like that would do well. Maybe get on a
39:50
Speaker 1: zoom meeting. And I know that sounds dumb, but I
39:52
Speaker 1: actually think that'd be kind of fun. I would love
39:54
Speaker 1: to do with my family. I'm going to do that
39:55
Speaker 1: with my family. That's actually a really good idea. Zoom
39:58
Speaker 1: meeting Christmas since I can't be there on the day.
40:00
Speaker 1: But anyway, let's read. Let's read the update. So Christmas
40:03
Speaker 1: has been and gone and there was a bit more
40:05
Speaker 1: drama than I wanted. After my original post, I contacted
40:08
Speaker 1: my mother to reaffirm to her the reasons we wanted
40:11
Speaker 1: to spend Christmas Day itself on our own, and she
40:13
Speaker 1: said that she understood and said she looked forward to
40:16
Speaker 1: seeing a sun boxing day. Okay, thanks mom, we love that. However,
40:19
Speaker 1: a few hours later, I got a call from my
40:21
Speaker 1: father asking why my mother was crying and saying that
40:24
Speaker 1: I'd rung her up, screaming and shouting about her interfering
40:27
Speaker 1: with her life. What Oh, she's back on the naughty list.
40:30
Speaker 1: What I said, nothing like that happened, and that it
40:33
Speaker 1: hurt that she was accusing me of that when I
40:35
Speaker 1: was just trying to be mature about the situation. My
40:38
Speaker 1: father sympathized and said he tried to talk to her
40:40
Speaker 1: about it. He's like, I know, she ha, it's fucking crazy, man,
40:44
Speaker 1: I'll take care of it. We love a dad in
40:46
Speaker 1: this situation. Okay, hopefully he's got his He's got everything
40:49
Speaker 1: in check. I checked in frequently in the days up
40:51
Speaker 1: to Christmas, but my mother read and ignored my messages.
40:54
Speaker 1: Whenever I spoke to my father, he said that she
40:56
Speaker 1: was telling him I hadn't been in contact and she
40:58
Speaker 1: was waiting for me to appologize. I'm not gonna lie.
41:01
Speaker 1: She's sounding a little bit, maybe not narcissistic, but definitely selfish.
41:04
Speaker 1: But he had seen that I was in her call
41:07
Speaker 1: and text history. He advised that visiting on Boxy Day
41:09
Speaker 1: might not be the best idea, but if it got
41:12
Speaker 1: to that stage, he would visit us alone, since none
41:14
Speaker 1: of this was our doing. Oh no, she's creating a problem.
41:18
Speaker 1: I thought this was about the mother in law the
41:20
Speaker 1: whole time. Did I read that wrong? Oh no, it
41:22
Speaker 1: just says mother. Oh I thought it was about the
41:24
Speaker 1: mother in law this whole time. I'm an idiot. We
41:26
Speaker 1: had our own private Christmas Day, during which we followed
41:29
Speaker 1: out that I was pregnant. Oh congratulations, that's wonderful. We
41:34
Speaker 1: had started trying for our first child in secret a
41:36
Speaker 1: few months ago, but didn't suspect anything until I felt
41:39
Speaker 1: sick at the smell of turkey. We're going to keep
41:42
Speaker 1: this our little secret for the next few weeks. At
41:44
Speaker 1: least with everyone my husband's family included. I texted my
41:47
Speaker 1: mother to wish her a happy Christmas in the morning,
41:50
Speaker 1: and sent another text in the evening asking if she
41:52
Speaker 1: still wanted us to go to visit tomorrow. I got
41:55
Speaker 1: a one word reply, no, Oh, this makes me so
41:59
Speaker 1: sad because you're pregnant, and like, I'm just thinking about
42:01
Speaker 1: when you tell them that you're pregnant or that you
42:04
Speaker 1: have the kid. This is just gonna like be this
42:08
Speaker 1: but tenfold because it's a kid in the picture. Oh,
42:12
Speaker 1: they're going to like fight over you. At least your mom.
42:15
Speaker 1: This whole time, I thought it was a mother in
42:17
Speaker 1: law that was the issue. But she she doesn't seem
42:19
Speaker 1: to be She seems to be like more understanding. But yeah,
42:21
Speaker 1: your mom is that's just sad. That's a bummer. We
42:26
Speaker 1: took my mother at her word and we didn't visit
42:28
Speaker 1: the following day. I think she was expecting me to
42:31
Speaker 1: grovel at her feet begging for forgiveness. But that's not
42:33
Speaker 1: going to happen anymore. I called my father and told
42:36
Speaker 1: him that she had decided that we weren't visiting, and
42:39
Speaker 1: it definitely wasn't on our end. He visited in the
42:41
Speaker 1: afternoon and brought the dog and we all went for
42:43
Speaker 1: a walk instead of worrying about what my mother was
42:45
Speaker 1: doing or saying to other people about it. Apparently a
42:48
Speaker 1: horde of her friends had been told that I shredded
42:51
Speaker 1: her a Christmas card and posted back to them, among
42:53
Speaker 1: the other things. Oh, she's not well. I think she
42:56
Speaker 1: is actually maybe a narcissist or like no, yeah, like
43:01
Speaker 1: that's wild that she would lie about you posting back
43:05
Speaker 1: a shredded Christmas card and that's not what happened. She
43:09
Speaker 1: has a severe victim complex, if not a narcissist. That
43:14
Speaker 1: that's very worrying. But I'm done worrying about what my
43:17
Speaker 1: mother says. I'm not at the stage going to completely
43:19
Speaker 1: cut her off or say she can't see her future grandchild.
43:22
Speaker 1: But our relationship is definitely strained. Yeah, this is the
43:25
Speaker 1: type of stuff where it's like, oh, like, you know,
43:29
Speaker 1: you can't choose your parents and you love your parents.
43:33
Speaker 1: I'm assuming it sounds like you really love your parents.
43:35
Speaker 1: Then you realize they're very much human. At like one
43:38
Speaker 1: point in your life, and it's usually these high stress
43:40
Speaker 1: situations or like the big things in your life. You move,
43:43
Speaker 1: you have a kid, you get married, all these things
43:45
Speaker 1: like true colors really come out and this is really unfortunate,
43:48
Speaker 1: but I think it's I think you did the right
43:51
Speaker 1: thing by stepping back and not giving in because this
43:56
Speaker 1: yet don't feed this victim complex. That is not your problem.
44:00
Speaker 1: Even if you care about your mom like this, and
44:02
Speaker 1: even talking to her in like a mature way doesn't
44:04
Speaker 1: even seem to work because she'll just spin it in
44:07
Speaker 1: a way that isn't what it is. Maybe you go
44:10
Speaker 1: as far as to call her and record of the
44:12
Speaker 1: call so if she claims to have been this way,
44:16
Speaker 1: you could play it back for and be like, why
44:18
Speaker 1: are you doing this? Like let's get down to the
44:21
Speaker 1: to the nitty gritty, you know. And I know that's
44:22
Speaker 1: kind of far, but sometimes there's no other way to
44:24
Speaker 1: get through to these these type of people that the
44:27
Speaker 1: you know, victim complex type people. Yeah, that's tough. I
44:30
Speaker 1: don't think telling her like I think seeing it therapist
44:32
Speaker 1: would be really beneficial to you. I don't think she's
44:34
Speaker 1: going to take to that, but that probably would be
44:37
Speaker 1: very beneficial to her. That's tough. I think you did
44:39
Speaker 1: the right thing, though, I definitely think you did the
44:41
Speaker 1: right thing first come, It says, it's all going to
44:43
Speaker 1: hit the fan once this mom discovers that Op is pregnant.
44:45
Speaker 1: You think the emotional manipulation is bad, now just brace yourself.
44:48
Speaker 1: I'm curious what happened these past few years. The next
44:50
Speaker 1: Christmas would have been babies first Christmas. Yeah, my gosh,
44:54
Speaker 1: we don't have another update, or maybe we we will
44:56
Speaker 1: and like like a month or whatever. It's just that's
45:00
Speaker 1: it's just bad. That's not good, and you don't want
45:02
Speaker 1: your kid to be around that kind of behavior and
45:04
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. Another Karma says, I feel
45:07
Speaker 1: bad for Op. She said that there's no way her
45:10
Speaker 1: mom is an abusive narcissist, but then her mom ends
45:12
Speaker 1: up spreading lives purely because he wanted to have a
45:15
Speaker 1: private Christmas. I'm glad that she ended up realizing her
45:17
Speaker 1: mom really isn't that great, and also that she seems
45:20
Speaker 1: to have her dad to rely on within her family. Yeah,
45:23
Speaker 1: at least her dad's kind of kind of got a
45:25
Speaker 1: shit together, so that's nice. And he probably knows like
45:27
Speaker 1: everything in the book that his wife polls and everything,
45:31
Speaker 1: so you know, I think he handled it beautifully. Congratulations
45:34
Speaker 1: on your wedding. Congratulations on your pregnancy. This was like
45:37
Speaker 1: four years ago, so you got a little toddler now,
45:39
Speaker 1: which is adorable and I love that. But yeah, you know,
45:41
Speaker 1: it's the holiday season, it's almost Christmas. I really appreciate
45:44
Speaker 1: you guys being here. This year has been absolutely wonderful
45:48
Speaker 1: and that is because of you guys. So I just
45:49
Speaker 1: want to thank you from the bottom of my heart,
45:51
Speaker 1: and I hope you have a great Christmas. Whether it's
45:53
Speaker 1: with family, whether it's with your partner, whether it's with
45:57
Speaker 1: your kids, whether it's just buy your out for whatever,
46:00
Speaker 1: whatever you're doing, I appreciate you, and I am so
46:05
Speaker 1: so glad you're here. And I will see you in
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Speaker 1: the next video, all right. Bye,