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- 0:59Speaker 1: Siria and the Eagles loose to the forty nine ers
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- 1:09Speaker 1: Allen just goes Michael Jordan. We we know the matchups,
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- 2:22Speaker 1: So let's talk some football. Let's just start right off
- 2:25Speaker 1: the bat with a man named Nick Sirianni. And I
- 2:29Speaker 1: thought about it like this. Let's just pose a question.
- 2:33Speaker 1: If I ask you or anyone they don't even need
- 2:36Speaker 1: to work in the NFL, just a football fan. If
- 2:39Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni was fired on Monday, would he get another
- 2:44Speaker 1: coaching job this season, and want to say coaching job,
- 2:47Speaker 1: would anyone hire him to be their head coach? Since
- 2:51Speaker 1: none of you are here, I will answer that question
- 2:53Speaker 1: for you. The answer is no. Well, let's take some
- 2:58Speaker 1: other guys who were fired. I think we kind of
- 3:02Speaker 1: just assumed that Mike McDaniel was gonna come back randomly
- 3:05Speaker 1: in the middle of the week. See you, you're gone.
- 3:07Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel's fired. Kevin Stefanski a week ago was not shocking,
- 3:12Speaker 1: also fired. Let's assume those guys realized Stefanski's interviewing for
- 3:16Speaker 1: head coaching jobs might, as you know, easily could land one.
- 3:20Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel also, he's interviewing for the Cleveland Browns, who
- 3:25Speaker 1: Mike silver Davis, California resident, former legendary s I writer
- 3:30Speaker 1: wrote a book about like the Shanahan Tree. Of that
- 3:32Speaker 1: crew of guys, the former Washington coaches, Mike McDaniel was
- 3:36Speaker 1: famously wrote a thirty two page essentially essay to help
- 3:41Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan and himself get out from under the Cleveland
- 3:45Speaker 1: Browns leadership in Jimmy Haslam, and they were able to
- 3:48Speaker 1: resign and leave and go to Atlanta. Well, Mike McDaniel.
- 3:50Speaker 1: I think either has or is going to interview for
- 3:53Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. But if Stefanski and McDaniel were not
- 3:56Speaker 1: going to be head coaches and don't get head coaching jobs,
- 3:59Speaker 1: both of those got. Definitely Mike McDaniel would be not
- 4:03Speaker 1: only locked coordinators, people would think about firing their offensive
- 4:06Speaker 1: coordinator to hire those two guys. They would have teams
- 4:10Speaker 1: lined up all around the league to hire Mike McDaniel
- 4:13Speaker 1: and Kevin Stefanski to call their offense. For a ton
- 4:17Speaker 1: of head coaches all around the NFL, no one would
- 4:19Speaker 1: hire Nick Sirianni to be their offensive coordinator. The Eagles
- 4:23Speaker 1: don't let him call plays. Let's be real. Let's look
- 4:27Speaker 1: at the business world. Some people create start things from
- 4:30Speaker 1: scratch and dominate that world, right, whatever their individual industry is.
- 4:36Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos created Amazon from nothing. Elon's created countless companies, right.
- 4:42Speaker 1: Sam Walton created Walmart from thin air, built the thing
- 4:46Speaker 1: up from scratch. Some people hit the lottery and get
- 4:49Speaker 1: rich overnight. Where does Nick Sirianni fall under that? I'd
- 4:54Speaker 1: argue he hit the lottery. He got Howie Rosenman as
- 4:57Speaker 1: a general manager, he got an owner. That's willing to
- 5:00Speaker 1: spend unlimited amounts of money, not just on his own roster.
- 5:04Speaker 1: They obviously have been well renowned now for front loading
- 5:07Speaker 1: contracts and being able to pay guys more cash up front,
- 5:12Speaker 1: and how they can manipulate the books. But a couple
- 5:15Speaker 1: of years ago their defense wasn't shambles. What did Jeffrey
- 5:17Speaker 1: Lurry do? What's it gonna take to get Vic Vangio?
- 5:20Speaker 1: We will pay him the most of any coordinator in
- 5:22Speaker 1: the NFL. Most owners aren't willing to do that help.
- 5:26Speaker 1: The majority of owners get knocked for being cheap. So
- 5:29Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni is in a situation where he plays the
- 5:31Speaker 1: forty nine Ers who When Kyle Shanahan addressed the team
- 5:35Speaker 1: in the locker room after one of his most historic
- 5:37Speaker 1: wins as a head coach, he gave props to the
- 5:41Speaker 1: two linebackers, neither of which were on the team a
- 5:44Speaker 1: month ago. When it was reported this morning that Lane Johnson,
- 5:48Speaker 1: a future Hall of Famer, was not going to be
- 5:49Speaker 1: able to go, do you know the first thing I thought?
- 5:52Speaker 1: Who cares? Doesn't impact the forty nine Ers. They're dead
- 5:55Speaker 1: last in sacks. Nick Bosa is currently third on the
- 5:59Speaker 1: team and he hasn't played in months. The forty nine
- 6:03Speaker 1: Ers defense, beside their secondary, was a bunch of random
- 6:07Speaker 1: practice squad free agent off the street guys, and somehow
- 6:12Speaker 1: the Eagles couldn't do anything when it mattered. The brock
- 6:16Speaker 1: Purty threw two bad interceptions. The Eagles scored three points
- 6:19Speaker 1: off both interceptions. I saw a tweet tonight that the Eagles,
- 6:24Speaker 1: if you remove defensive scores, averaged less than ten points
- 6:29Speaker 1: in the second half of games all season long. They
- 6:33Speaker 1: have Aj Brown, who we can get into here in
- 6:35Speaker 1: a second, is obviously one of the most talented wide
- 6:38Speaker 1: receivers in the NFL. Terrible game to night, but dude's
- 6:42Speaker 1: big time player, so over the course of the season,
- 6:44Speaker 1: at any moment he should dominate. DeVante Smith is a
- 6:47Speaker 1: top fifteen pick who's not only lived up to it,
- 6:50Speaker 1: is a stud. Saquon Barkley last year ran for two
- 6:53Speaker 1: thousand yards. Dallas Goddard. I think Tom Brady said a
- 6:56Speaker 1: night like that's his twelfth touchdown of the year. He's
- 6:59Speaker 1: one of the more productive past catching tight ends in
- 7:02Speaker 1: the NFL. They have a quarterback who is a true
- 7:06Speaker 1: dual threat guy. He might not have the high end
- 7:09Speaker 1: speed like Lamar Jackson or Kyler Murray. But he is
- 7:12Speaker 1: a runner, and I thought, listen, I got it wrong.
- 7:15Speaker 1: I'd never thought when he came out Oklahoma. And I'm
- 7:17Speaker 1: a big Oklahoma guy because the guy before I got
- 7:20Speaker 1: into this world I worked in football. The guy that
- 7:23Speaker 1: hired me when I first started out of college at
- 7:25Speaker 1: Fresno State, he works at Oklahoma. So I've been dialed
- 7:29Speaker 1: into that program for a long time and watched all
- 7:31Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley's, the Baker Mayfields of Kyler Murray's and Jalen Hurts,
- 7:35Speaker 1: and I thought Jalen was probably gonna have to play
- 7:38Speaker 1: running back in the pros. I thought that was the
- 7:41Speaker 1: craziest pick I'd ever seen. When how he took him
- 7:43Speaker 1: in the second round, I was wrong, and then he
- 7:46Speaker 1: became more than a productive passer. But one thing early
- 7:50Speaker 1: on in his career, Jay why I thought he'd be
- 7:52Speaker 1: a running back because I thought he could be like
- 7:54Speaker 1: Frank Gore. He's not some blazing speed guy up the sideline.
- 7:59Speaker 1: His instinct say as a runner are actually much more
- 8:02Speaker 1: natural than even some running backs. You know what the
- 8:05Speaker 1: Chargers would have done to have him just taking carries.
- 8:08Speaker 1: He's patient, he has great vision. He's just he's natural
- 8:12Speaker 1: instincts with the ball in his hands when he's moving.
- 8:14Speaker 1: Even had a couple runs a day, one was called back.
- 8:16Speaker 1: It's like, why didn't Jalen have ten plus runs? Say
- 8:20Speaker 1: this about Lamar since Lamar became MVP caliber. He'll do
- 8:25Speaker 1: whatever it takes to win. You need me to run,
- 8:27Speaker 1: need me to pass. I don't give a damn. I'll
- 8:29Speaker 1: do what it takes to help the Ravens get a victory.
- 8:32Speaker 1: Jaye was like, no, I want to play like Russell Wilson,
- 8:34Speaker 1: dominate from the pocket. You're not a pocket quarterback man,
- 8:37Speaker 1: You're a dual threat player. So watching the Eagles just
- 8:41Speaker 1: completely crumble. I worked there for a couple of years.
- 8:45Speaker 1: I worked for Howie. The pressure in that building is immense.
- 8:49Speaker 1: Hell I still get nightmares about it sometimes, which honestly
- 8:51Speaker 1: keeps me on my toes because the world I live
- 8:54Speaker 1: in now still there's a ton of pressure. I got
- 8:56Speaker 1: a growing family. It's not like I don't have pressure
- 8:58Speaker 1: to produce in to do well financially and professionally for
- 9:03Speaker 1: my wife and my future child. But it's a little different.
- 9:07Speaker 1: I don't walk into that office on pins and needles
- 9:09Speaker 1: and that's what happens in Philadelphia, which is part of
- 9:12Speaker 1: football culture. It was like that at Alabama. It's like
- 9:15Speaker 1: that in Philadelphia. It was like that in Belichick forever.
- 9:18Speaker 1: Like it's a natural environment in the football world and
- 9:22Speaker 1: it's very healthy, but they don't tolerate getting embarrassed. And
- 9:26Speaker 1: tonight watching or this afternoon, watching the Eagles get embarrassed
- 9:31Speaker 1: by Brock Purty throwing to DeMarcus Robinson, who looked like
- 9:35Speaker 1: he was Jerry Rice, I was like, this is not
- 9:38Speaker 1: gonna go overwill George Kittle, who is not just one
- 9:43Speaker 1: of my favorite players in the NFL, he's truly one
- 9:46Speaker 1: of the great tight ends I've ever seen in my life.
- 9:49Speaker 1: He is going to have his number retired one time
- 9:51Speaker 1: as a forty nine er. He's a complete badass, and
- 9:54Speaker 1: as Christian McCaffrey said after the game, he's the heart
- 9:57Speaker 1: and soul of our team. Let me repeat, the heart
- 10:01Speaker 1: and soul of their team. Who is already missing Fred Warner,
- 10:05Speaker 1: who'd argue from some people that he was the heart
- 10:08Speaker 1: and soul of the team. He's been gone forever. Nick
- 10:10Speaker 1: Bosa long gone. They're missing players left and right, And
- 10:14Speaker 1: it didn't matter because it turned out. The Eagles aren't
- 10:18Speaker 1: very well coached and they're just not a very good team,
- 10:21Speaker 1: and the forty nine ers shouldn't be that good of
- 10:24Speaker 1: a team. They're missing way too many players, but there's
- 10:27Speaker 1: like a character to them where they didn't fracture when
- 10:31Speaker 1: it would have been easy to. When George Kittle is
- 10:33Speaker 1: getting carted off the field, war is pretty clear, yeah
- 10:36Speaker 1: his achilles ripped, yet the Eagles are forcing the ball
- 10:40Speaker 1: to AJ Brown. I don't blame them. He's a really
- 10:43Speaker 1: talented player, but it was pretty clear he didn't really
- 10:45Speaker 1: want to be there. And I think a big mistake
- 10:48Speaker 1: the Eagles made was not trading AJ Brown during the
- 10:52Speaker 1: middle of the season when they could have. And they're
- 10:54Speaker 1: going to trade him in two months. But when you
- 10:57Speaker 1: go into these playoff games, you need to have people
- 11:00Speaker 1: who are all in. And did AJ Brown today look
- 11:04Speaker 1: like a guy that was all in? And I'm not
- 11:06Speaker 1: just saying that because he had a bad game. Like
- 11:09Speaker 1: Randy Moss, Jerry Rice had some drops, probably not as
- 11:12Speaker 1: many as he did in an individual game, But it
- 11:14Speaker 1: happens like it's football, like people fumble, people throw interceptions.
- 11:18Speaker 1: Obviously they are better and worse times to do certain things,
- 11:24Speaker 1: but like it happens, and watching that game the day
- 11:27Speaker 1: I went, I don't know, I how does Sirianni survive
- 11:32Speaker 1: the next forty eight hours Because the offensive coordinator was
- 11:36Speaker 1: probably going to get fired no matter what, whether they
- 11:39Speaker 1: unless they won the Super Bowl again, he was a
- 11:42Speaker 1: dead man walking. That's the way Philly works. They fired
- 11:45Speaker 1: coordinators all the time. But I think this outcome against
- 11:49Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan that when I asked, when I posed that question,
- 11:52Speaker 1: who would hire Sirianni tomorrow if he was fired? What
- 11:56Speaker 1: if I flipped it to the forty nine ers, who
- 11:57Speaker 1: would hire Kyle Shanahan tomorrow if he was fired? I
- 12:00Speaker 1: think your answer would be twenty nine teams, thirty teams,
- 12:07Speaker 1: hell more people would hire the forty nine ers defensive
- 12:11Speaker 1: coordinator who was just fired last year from the Jets.
- 12:15Speaker 1: It's actually aged much better because that organization is an
- 12:17Speaker 1: all time clown show than Nick Sirianni. And the crazy
- 12:21Speaker 1: part is Nick Sirianni has been in two of the
- 12:23Speaker 1: last three Super Bowls. But I think, if we're all
- 12:26Speaker 1: being honest, how much did he really have to do
- 12:29Speaker 1: with that? Hey, he leads some team meetings, you know,
- 12:31Speaker 1: he's good like with personalities, but like it feels like
- 12:35Speaker 1: he does nothing in the game and he can't help
- 12:39Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator who was clearly over his head. His
- 12:43Speaker 1: quarterback has got to this spot where it's like, what
- 12:47Speaker 1: are we doing? Why aren't we utilizing your talents? Look
- 12:50Speaker 1: at Brock, perty what does it take to win the game?
- 12:53Speaker 1: You need me to run, you need me to die forward,
- 12:55Speaker 1: you need me to scramble and make a play. Obviously,
- 12:58Speaker 1: I'm a quarterback, so you're gonna need me to pass
- 13:00Speaker 1: and make the play. But we're gonna need my legs
- 13:03Speaker 1: in big spots. And I'm not just talking about quarterback sneaks.
- 13:06Speaker 1: I'm talking about taking off and running. And Brock had
- 13:08Speaker 1: one of the dumbest plays you'll ever see, because it
- 13:11Speaker 1: was one of the truly great six or seven second
- 13:15Speaker 1: at the end of a half play call, because I
- 13:16Speaker 1: was like, what are they gonna do here to try
- 13:18Speaker 1: to get six seven more yards? They don't have any
- 13:20Speaker 1: time out. You can't throw it over the middle of
- 13:21Speaker 1: the field. The Eagles are playing like against the sideline,
- 13:25Speaker 1: and they just ran a quarterback like power, and Brock
- 13:28Speaker 1: kind of froze and then he fubbled the ball. It
- 13:30Speaker 1: was a complete disaster. But listen, party by no means
- 13:35Speaker 1: was perfect tonight. That play multiple interceptions. I'm a little
- 13:39Speaker 1: baffled that during the prep when all else fails, do
- 13:44Speaker 1: not throw at twenty seven, throw at the other guy.
- 13:47Speaker 1: And listen, he tested them twice and got picked off twice.
- 13:51Speaker 1: But what it mattered the most for a game winning drive.
- 13:55Speaker 1: It didn't matter what the play call was or what
- 13:57Speaker 1: was needed. They just did whatever they had to do.
- 14:00Speaker 1: Do you need me to run it? Do you need
- 14:01Speaker 1: me to pass it? Do you need my Pro Bowl
- 14:05Speaker 1: full back to make crazy catches? Do you need Christian
- 14:07Speaker 1: McCaffrey to make a catch. And that's what happened, and
- 14:10Speaker 1: that's why the forty nine ers drove down the field
- 14:12Speaker 1: perty had a huge first down run on that on
- 14:14Speaker 1: that drive. Because it never comes down to I'm just
- 14:17Speaker 1: a pocket quarterback or I'm just a Shanahan quarterback. No,
- 14:22Speaker 1: I'm just a quarterback that will do whatever it takes
- 14:24Speaker 1: on a given week to help us win the game.
- 14:27Speaker 1: And yet when you watch the Eagles, they're the complete opposite.
- 14:31Speaker 1: Jalen's like, I just want to pass, I don't want
- 14:33Speaker 1: to run, and clearly doesn't because you would call more
- 14:37Speaker 1: quarterback runs. I'm watching Josh Allen, I'm watching the two
- 14:40Speaker 1: quarterback Sunday night. I'll do it. Do you need me
- 14:43Speaker 1: to take off, I'll take off. That is not the
- 14:45Speaker 1: way Jalen plays anymore. Maybe he doesn't want to get hit,
- 14:48Speaker 1: Maybe he just doesn't want to run. He got a
- 14:50Speaker 1: super Bowl, He's made a bunch of money. And I
- 14:52Speaker 1: have a lot of respect for Jalen, what he stands for,
- 14:55Speaker 1: how hardy works, how serious he is. But in terms
- 14:58Speaker 1: of as a player, you can't maximize your abilities as
- 15:03Speaker 1: a player when you won't do like one of the
- 15:07Speaker 1: things you are best at, when you also have some
- 15:09Speaker 1: clear deficiencies and you try to lean into them. Like
- 15:13Speaker 1: part of life, to be successful at something is to
- 15:16Speaker 1: double down on what you're good at and do things
- 15:19Speaker 1: you struggle at. I don't give a shit what you do. Avoid,
- 15:23Speaker 1: don't do that, stay away from it. It's like, I'll
- 15:26Speaker 1: just be a pocket quarterback. This isn't really working man like.
- 15:28Speaker 1: This is. This is get run and get moving. That's
- 15:31Speaker 1: your what Look at Drake may look at Justin Herbert,
- 15:34Speaker 1: who didn't play well but throws on the road. Look
- 15:36Speaker 1: at party, get out and move, get out and make
- 15:38Speaker 1: some plays. You're a great athlete, not a good athlete,
- 15:41Speaker 1: a great athlete. But this comes back to coaching, and
- 15:45Speaker 1: this comes back to this situation. The Eagles are ruthless,
- 15:48Speaker 1: they really are. And to get embarrassed like that at
- 15:50Speaker 1: home by, you know, you got to remove the brand
- 15:54Speaker 1: in Kyle Shanahan and put the players that he was
- 15:57Speaker 1: rolling out. They threw a ball today. I've been watching
- 16:00Speaker 1: the forty nine ers for three plus decades to number
- 16:03Speaker 1: eighty one, I had never heard of this player. And
- 16:06Speaker 1: then Kevin Burkhart said, well, he hasn't played in an
- 16:09Speaker 1: NFL game or caught a pass since twenty twenty one.
- 16:12Speaker 1: He's been on practice squas squads and bounced around. I'm like, yeah, no, shit,
- 16:16Speaker 1: I couldn't point this guy out of a lineup. But
- 16:19Speaker 1: that's what the forty nine ers had to do today
- 16:21Speaker 1: because of injuries, because of just the uphill battle they
- 16:25Speaker 1: had to fight against a team loaded with players. Defensively too,
- 16:29Speaker 1: and listen, the Eagles defense is bad at all. You
- 16:32Speaker 1: could win a Super Bowl with that defense. You cannot
- 16:35Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl. Hew, It's proven. You can't win
- 16:37Speaker 1: a playoff game with that offense, which just as a
- 16:41Speaker 1: fan of football, as someone that just would be sitting
- 16:45Speaker 1: on my couch and watching it. If I sold insurance
- 16:48Speaker 1: or had to dig ditches Monday morning, they would be
- 16:51Speaker 1: one of the last teams in the league I will
- 16:53Speaker 1: want to watch. I got so many texts from people
- 16:55Speaker 1: like the Eagles are a terrible watch. I'm like, yeah,
- 16:58Speaker 1: they really are. They're boring, there's no creativity, like the
- 17:02Speaker 1: forty nine Ers ran a trick play. For those of
- 17:05Speaker 1: you that don't watch every forty Niner game, forty nine
- 17:07Speaker 1: Ers are not a trick play team. They actually have
- 17:09Speaker 1: one go to trick play and it's a wide receiver pass.
- 17:13Speaker 1: Now part of it is Juwan Jennings was once a
- 17:16Speaker 1: huge high school recruited quarterback. It kind of went viral
- 17:20Speaker 1: today on Twitter that he was ranked ahead of guys
- 17:25Speaker 1: like Sam Darnold, Joe Burrow, and Lamar Jackson come out
- 17:29Speaker 1: of high school. Then he got to Tennessee, changed positions,
- 17:32Speaker 1: and I don't think it went great toward the end
- 17:34Speaker 1: because when he gets introduced in games, he doesn't even
- 17:37Speaker 1: acknowledge Tennessee. It happened with de Shawn Jackson back in
- 17:40Speaker 1: the day because him and Jeff Tedfer butted heads. It
- 17:42Speaker 1: happens sometimes whenever you hear a player on TV, say
- 17:47Speaker 1: like Davis Senior High School, you like, something went bad
- 17:49Speaker 1: with the coach in that program, right, because usually the
- 17:52Speaker 1: guys are excited, like one to the University of Texas,
- 17:54Speaker 1: went to the University of Oregon, Go Ducks. Whenever you
- 17:56Speaker 1: hear the high school or their hometown, You're like, Oh,
- 17:58Speaker 1: something bad went down, which shouldn't happen as much now
- 18:01Speaker 1: because guys are getting paid so much money. I'd have
- 18:04Speaker 1: a huge smile on my face. I'd be like seven
- 18:06Speaker 1: million dollars University of Oregon. But I do think when
- 18:11Speaker 1: Kyle busted out that trick play. I've been saying this
- 18:14Speaker 1: forever with coordinators, I don't pretend like even the shittiest
- 18:18Speaker 1: coordinators in the NFL, if you got them on a
- 18:21Speaker 1: whiteboard or you got them in front of the room
- 18:24Speaker 1: with high school coaches and just talked football, their knowledge
- 18:28Speaker 1: and understanding a ball would blow us all away. All
- 18:32Speaker 1: of us. We'd be like, what is this sky talking about?
- 18:35Speaker 1: From splits to depths, to route concepts to against all
- 18:39Speaker 1: these guys are great backup quarterbacks as well, but when
- 18:43Speaker 1: you get them on the field as a backup quarterback,
- 18:46Speaker 1: as a player, or as a position coach, as a coordinator,
- 18:50Speaker 1: and they got to start calling the plays and the
- 18:52Speaker 1: bullets start flying. Separates the men from the boys to
- 18:55Speaker 1: the highest level. Speaks for college, no different in the pros.
- 18:59Speaker 1: And some people when I was saying this the other
- 19:01Speaker 1: day about Tony, the little wide receiver from Miami who's
- 19:04Speaker 1: a true freshman. Obviously, our experiences when we're young shape
- 19:09Speaker 1: our capabilities and our future talents in certain things. You know, Obviously,
- 19:14Speaker 1: playing football, there are god given metrics that you're gonna
- 19:17Speaker 1: need to play college or in the NFL. Right that
- 19:20Speaker 1: there are certain you're gonna have to have certain you know,
- 19:24Speaker 1: intellectual capacity to be a doctor or to be an
- 19:27Speaker 1: engineer when it comes to math or biology. Right, But
- 19:31Speaker 1: once you get to that level and you're surrounded by
- 19:33Speaker 1: a bunch of other people at that level, they're gonna
- 19:35Speaker 1: be separating factors. And I remember watching Tony in that
- 19:39Speaker 1: the last game, thinking like this guy was born to
- 19:42Speaker 1: play football, Like his instincts in his feel for the
- 19:46Speaker 1: game are just elite. I remember hearing a story when
- 19:48Speaker 1: I was a kid, I grew up in northern California,
- 19:51Speaker 1: right by Sacramento. My dad was a huge Cow fan,
- 19:54Speaker 1: Cal football, in Cal basketball, And I remember being pretty young,
- 19:58Speaker 1: it's probably like ten twelve years old, when Jason Kidd
- 20:01Speaker 1: was at Cow and there was all these rumors, you know,
- 20:05Speaker 1: it was like took him like five times to pass
- 20:06Speaker 1: the minimum level of SAT. Like it's very academically challenging
- 20:11Speaker 1: to get in Cow. And I don't think anyone would
- 20:13Speaker 1: consider Jason Kidd like, you know, some intellectual genius. But
- 20:18Speaker 1: in terms of basketball IQ, he's like Albert Einstein. And
- 20:23Speaker 1: in sports. One thing I learned, actually, Howie Roseman taught
- 20:25Speaker 1: me this. I remember scouting a guy and talking about
- 20:28Speaker 1: their GPA and it was like, this guy's not that smart.
- 20:34Speaker 1: He's like, was he football smart? I'm like, yes, coach,
- 20:36Speaker 1: say the guys picks it up after one try, no problem,
- 20:38Speaker 1: Like we don't care about his GPA. We're not doing
- 20:41Speaker 1: GPA here, We're doing football, right. And that's like in life,
- 20:45Speaker 1: like your GPA doesn't always translate. Do your instincts at
- 20:48Speaker 1: whatever you're doing translate? And you watch Kyle Shanahan and
- 20:52Speaker 1: Brock Perdy the symbiotic relationship they had Colin plays obviously
- 20:56Speaker 1: the timing of that trick play, and then you watch
- 20:59Speaker 1: the Eagles off operation and all you could say is like,
- 21:03Speaker 1: what the fuck is going on here? And the answer
- 21:06Speaker 1: is no one knows, because if they knew, they would
- 21:09Speaker 1: change it and fix it, but they don't have the
- 21:11Speaker 1: ability to because they're not good enough. It's really that simple.
- 21:15Speaker 1: At the highest level of the NFL, the separating factor
- 21:19Speaker 1: is like pretty small, and the difference of Kyle Shanahan
- 21:24Speaker 1: and Robert Salah compared to the Sirianni Patola combination was
- 21:30Speaker 1: a mile wide. And the sad part is like Vic
- 21:32Speaker 1: Fangio's big time. He ain't the problem. And that's why
- 21:35Speaker 1: I ask, like, if you fire Sirianni, why wouldn't you
- 21:39Speaker 1: immediately go after John Harbaugh. He already has a defensive
- 21:43Speaker 1: coordinator in place. Vic is close with the Harball family,
- 21:47Speaker 1: worked for Jim four years. You could bring Todd Munkin,
- 21:51Speaker 1: who worked with Lamar Jackson and help. You know, a
- 21:54Speaker 1: couple of years ago had one of the best seasons
- 21:56Speaker 1: like NFL history, and boom, you're off and running. Here's
- 22:01Speaker 1: the other thing, Jeffrey luriy knows John Harbaugh well, he
- 22:05Speaker 1: worked there from nineteen ninety eight to two thousand and
- 22:07Speaker 1: seven before he got the Raven job. So when I
- 22:11Speaker 1: know that the Miami thing, and listen, I thought, like,
- 22:14Speaker 1: John Harbaugh, go to Miami. Miami. Job's terrible. They have
- 22:18Speaker 1: no quarterback. They actually do. He's under contract for like
- 22:21Speaker 1: fifty million dollars to me, the Eagles. You're having a
- 22:25Speaker 1: long conversation all day tomorrow of like, not only do
- 22:28Speaker 1: we move on, but if we do, do we just
- 22:30Speaker 1: put all of our chips on the table and just
- 22:31Speaker 1: hire the guy down the road who could basically just
- 22:34Speaker 1: be a way better version of what we just had.
- 22:38Speaker 1: Because our great advantage is working for us is awesome.
- 22:42Speaker 1: We spend a bunch of money, We pick good players
- 22:44Speaker 1: who're extremely talented. We just need the coaching on the field,
- 22:48Speaker 1: something that only a small percentage of people know what
- 22:51Speaker 1: they're doing. We got the defensive coordinator and staff in place.
- 22:56Speaker 1: We just need a massive upgrade in terms of our
- 22:58Speaker 1: head coach and our offensive capability because we just saw
- 23:02Speaker 1: a guy who is elite. You don't go nine and
- 23:05Speaker 1: four with Jimmy Garoppolo and Brock Purdy over the course
- 23:09Speaker 1: of seven years and not be a leade at your job.
- 23:12Speaker 1: And obviously perty's better player than Jimmy Garoppolo, but no
- 23:15Speaker 1: one's getting pretty confused with Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen.
- 23:20Speaker 1: And it looked like I thought when he threw the
- 23:22Speaker 1: second half interception that was gonna doom though, but he
- 23:25Speaker 1: didn't because one thing the forty nine ers have going
- 23:27Speaker 1: for them is mental toughness, and they're pretty unfaced and
- 23:32Speaker 1: they might go down, but they're gonna go down swinging.
- 23:35Speaker 1: And it's felt like the Eagles. You know, the AJ
- 23:37Speaker 1: Brown situation was like, uh, there's a disconnect, and that
- 23:41Speaker 1: to me starts like you're either coaching or allowing it
- 23:43Speaker 1: to happen, back to the Belichick old saying, and it
- 23:45Speaker 1: is true, and they got major problems. So the Eagles
- 23:49Speaker 1: is definitely something to keep a tight eye on, and
- 23:51Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers move on to play Seattle, which
- 23:56Speaker 1: I think the Niners and the Bears just had all
- 23:59Speaker 1: time like validation season wins. Like the forty nine Ers
- 24:05Speaker 1: with their injuries, had no business going twelve and five
- 24:08Speaker 1: and definitely no business winning a playoff game on the
- 24:11Speaker 1: road as a big underdog. The Chicago Bears, who've had
- 24:15Speaker 1: one of the crazier seasons you'll ever see. At down
- 24:20Speaker 1: twenty one to three at home, just honestly had no
- 24:23Speaker 1: business winning that game, and winning those two games, there's
- 24:27Speaker 1: almost a freedom like what do we gotta lose? Moving forward? Now,
- 24:30Speaker 1: I do think that the Bears are healthier, especially after
- 24:33Speaker 1: Kittle's gone. Moving forward, they got more offensive firepower, but
- 24:37Speaker 1: both defenses have major question marks. Made some individual plays,
- 24:41Speaker 1: but at any given moment, you were just kind of
- 24:43Speaker 1: on your heels, like, I don't know if this is
- 24:44Speaker 1: gonna work, but just pretty incredible moments, which shows you
- 24:49Speaker 1: the power coaching, shows you the power of offensive innovative coaching,
- 24:53Speaker 1: and I think the Eagles were a great example of
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- 26:44Speaker 1: New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia. One big story that is
- 26:54Speaker 1: not gonna go away. I am guiltiest charge. I have
- 26:57Speaker 1: been a defender. I defend Justin her Herbert and have
- 27:00Speaker 1: consistently defended Justin Herbert. I thought tonight he was pretty bad.
- 27:05Speaker 1: There were a lot of throws in the middle of
- 27:07Speaker 1: the game where balls are air mailing people. Now as
- 27:11Speaker 1: the game went on and he's just getting shellacked. The
- 27:14Speaker 1: whole thing just crumbled. But there was a stretch where
- 27:17Speaker 1: the Patriots were basically trying to say take the game
- 27:20Speaker 1: from us, and a lot like the forty nine ers,
- 27:23Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh was going into this game, let's just make
- 27:26Speaker 1: this thing weird. Let's muddy this thing up and make
- 27:29Speaker 1: it weird. And it was. They just needed a couple
- 27:32Speaker 1: of plays from their fifty million dollar quarterback, who physically
- 27:35Speaker 1: is as gifted as anyone in the NFL. But I
- 27:39Speaker 1: thought tonight, in the meat of the game, when it
- 27:42Speaker 1: was there to be like, Hey, a couple of touchdown
- 27:44Speaker 1: drives all of a sudden, you'd be up fourteen to six,
- 27:47Speaker 1: fourteen to nine, like you would take a commanding lead
- 27:50Speaker 1: in this thing. And clearly they are struggling cold weather,
- 27:54Speaker 1: they lose their best corner, and he just didn't play
- 27:58Speaker 1: very well. Now I'm not out on him, I don't
- 28:01Speaker 1: you know. It's one of those situations where you're like,
- 28:06Speaker 1: this is not nothing. He's zero and three in the playoffs,
- 28:09Speaker 1: and he clearly does not look good, and tonight he
- 28:13Speaker 1: did not look good. Now I also think there's two
- 28:16Speaker 1: parts to like the statement, he did not look good
- 28:18Speaker 1: and well, okay, we just got to figure it out.
- 28:20Speaker 1: We got to just play through it. He's not going anywhere.
- 28:23Speaker 1: What do you want to do get rid of them?
- 28:25Speaker 1: What are your other options? There aren't any, So I mean,
- 28:28Speaker 1: you're all in on this. Help. I saw your backup
- 28:31Speaker 1: quarterback play Denver in week eighteen. Never do that again.
- 28:35Speaker 1: So you just got to figure this out. And I
- 28:37Speaker 1: think the best way to figure this out. I think
- 28:39Speaker 1: it's fair to say you're not Josh Allen. I mean,
- 28:44Speaker 1: there's a level in which he is not peaking in
- 28:49Speaker 1: the playoffs. Hey, listen, he's missing some offensive lineman to
- 28:53Speaker 1: star offensive linemen. Their running back situation, the running their
- 28:57Speaker 1: rookie running back from North Carolina, pretty big question mark
- 29:00Speaker 1: right now looks pretty slow to me, Like I would
- 29:03Speaker 1: be a little nervous if I was those guys big
- 29:05Speaker 1: picture about that selection. For the next six months, I'm
- 29:09Speaker 1: sending that guy to speed training. We're gonna work on
- 29:11Speaker 1: an explosion, short area quickness. I'm gonna need a little
- 29:14Speaker 1: more burst, big boy, because the speed in which you're
- 29:18Speaker 1: running is just not good enough. But like as stories
- 29:22Speaker 1: like this grow, when you're as talented as Herbert and
- 29:24Speaker 1: you're viewed as one of the six seven, five, six
- 29:27Speaker 1: to seven best quarterbacks in the NFL, your standard in
- 29:30Speaker 1: the playoffs is way higher. And right now he's oning three.
- 29:34Speaker 1: And obviously last year he played one of the worst
- 29:36Speaker 1: games in the history of the league. Right five interceptions,
- 29:38Speaker 1: It was atrocious. Tonight wasn't that bad, but it was
- 29:41Speaker 1: not good. And you're playing a guy who's playing his
- 29:44Speaker 1: first playoffs start in Drake May who honestly throughout the
- 29:48Speaker 1: game wasn't playing that well either. Started heating up in
- 29:50Speaker 1: the second half, making some runs, made a couple of
- 29:52Speaker 1: big throws and kind of just settled down. He'd be like, well,
- 29:56Speaker 1: his team's a little bit better and definitely healthier. Kind
- 29:58Speaker 1: of like his his number four overall pick left tackle
- 30:01Speaker 1: is getting picked up by Khalil Mack, who's probably one
- 30:03Speaker 1: of the stronger guys in the league history, and just
- 30:06Speaker 1: driven back into him constantly. But like Drake Mayo played him.
- 30:11Speaker 1: Not that he played great. I'm not compared to Drake
- 30:12Speaker 1: made to Josh Allen on Sunday, but he definitely outplayed
- 30:15Speaker 1: Justin Herbert and Drake may has played one real year
- 30:18Speaker 1: of football, because I definitely don't count last year in
- 30:21Speaker 1: his college crews at North Carolina. Did he ever play
- 30:23Speaker 1: in a big game in college? Not trying to shitt
- 30:27Speaker 1: on the ACC here, but definitely that program's not like
- 30:29Speaker 1: they're playing, you know, Alabama and LSU in the playoffs,
- 30:33Speaker 1: so like this is a big game, bright lights game.
- 30:36Speaker 1: Herbert's been there, done that, played in Rose Bulls, started
- 30:39Speaker 1: now in multiple playoff games. It should have been a
- 30:42Speaker 1: huge advantage for him. He's got Jim Harball on his
- 30:44Speaker 1: side right the coaching, the Patriot coaching is elite. Vray Bull,
- 30:49Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, so's Jim Harbaugh staff. Jesse Mentor probably could
- 30:54Speaker 1: be a head coach here in two weeks. Jim Harbaugh's
- 30:57Speaker 1: won how many playoff games guys won? How many games
- 30:59Speaker 1: the guy I won in his career? Greg Roman takes
- 31:02Speaker 1: a lot of shit. I saw Greg Roman win a
- 31:04Speaker 1: lot of games with Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick. Lamar Jackson,
- 31:08Speaker 1: like his resume is not as bad as the way
- 31:10Speaker 1: he gets discussed. I think sometimes people talk about him
- 31:12Speaker 1: like he's Raiders Chip Kelly. Like, no, guys, he's not bad.
- 31:16Speaker 1: He kind of knows what he's doing. Is he perfect? No,
- 31:19Speaker 1: would you ideally want a little better, of course, but
- 31:22Speaker 1: he's not that bad. And you see tonight like, I
- 31:25Speaker 1: don't know, something's just off. I don't know even I
- 31:27Speaker 1: don't really have like some strong opinion. I don't know why.
- 31:30Speaker 1: But oh and three and it's just one of those
- 31:32Speaker 1: stories that is just not gonna go away. It happens sometimes.
- 31:36Speaker 1: I love Barry Bonds as a kid. For a lot
- 31:38Speaker 1: of his career might have been prey Jews. He didn't
- 31:41Speaker 1: play very well in the playoffs. Alex Ardriguez had that happen.
- 31:44Speaker 1: Baseball is a little different, just because you only get
- 31:46Speaker 1: so many at bats, you have five game series, it
- 31:49Speaker 1: can be a little skewed, but like it wasn't nothing
- 31:51Speaker 1: after a while. And that's what I would say about
- 31:53Speaker 1: this justin Herbert thing. It's like it's gonna be a
- 31:55Speaker 1: massive story. And until he wins a playoff game, people
- 32:00Speaker 1: did want to kind of go counterculture and hang a
- 32:04Speaker 1: left when everyone's hanging a right, kind of always can
- 32:06Speaker 1: hang that above everyone's head. Wake me when he wins
- 32:09Speaker 1: a playoff game. Don't wake me when Josh Allen wins
- 32:12Speaker 1: a playoff game, because he wins a lot of them.
- 32:13Speaker 1: He just happens to not be able to beat the
- 32:15Speaker 1: Kansasity Chiefs. Well, I took out my binoculars to day
- 32:18Speaker 1: and I look, the Kancay Chiefs are nowhere to be found.
- 32:20Speaker 1: They don't exist in this playoff run. Patrick Mahomes obviously
- 32:24Speaker 1: has torn acl and his team's not represented, so he's
- 32:28Speaker 1: playing the Jacks, who were as hot as any team
- 32:30Speaker 1: in the NFL. They're really, really good. Liam Cohen has
- 32:33Speaker 1: done a great job and he went in and kicked
- 32:37Speaker 1: the shit out of him. Josh Allen was incredible today.
- 32:41Speaker 1: He was a one man wrecking crew. He's really more
- 32:46Speaker 1: like something you would see in basketball. He did it all.
- 32:49Speaker 1: There was nothing he couldn't do. On top of slamming
- 32:53Speaker 1: his hand into a helmet, getting his knee twisted on
- 32:56Speaker 1: a touchdown run, he took a quarterback sneak like twelve yard. Honestly,
- 33:00Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen that. He was just
- 33:03Speaker 1: had the game where sometimes people like used to write
- 33:08Speaker 1: about this type stuff back when newspapers existed and we
- 33:10Speaker 1: had sports columnists and I grew up reading them all
- 33:13Speaker 1: of like, this was a man that just wouldn't be denied.
- 33:17Speaker 1: And that's what it felt like today, because if you
- 33:20Speaker 1: flip the quarterbacks in that game, Jacksonville would have won
- 33:23Speaker 1: by twenty five points. They would have killed the Bills.
- 33:26Speaker 1: I've come around on Trevor Lawrence over the last couple
- 33:29Speaker 1: of years, like anyone that watched football is like, I'm out,
- 33:31Speaker 1: I don't see it. There was no denying down the
- 33:34Speaker 1: stretch of this season. He did look really good. Today
- 33:37Speaker 1: was not that day. Made a couple good passes, obviously,
- 33:40Speaker 1: threw a couple of touchdowns, but overall he was all
- 33:42Speaker 1: over the map. And sometimes these young coaches and listen,
- 33:47Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan's probably the only guy in twenty twenty six
- 33:51Speaker 1: that will just keep calling runs and have no problem
- 33:54Speaker 1: even when it's not working. Even Ben Johnson like he's like, Okay,
- 33:57Speaker 1: I just got a pass. Most young coaches are Sean
- 34:01Speaker 1: McVay is the skinny jacked version of Andy Reid. Wants
- 34:04Speaker 1: to pass it NonStop. Did you see that game against Carolina?
- 34:06Speaker 1: It's like, Sean, why are you passing so much? You
- 34:08Speaker 1: know what? They love to pass. Kevin O'Connell loves calling
- 34:11Speaker 1: pass plays. Liam Cohen clearly likes calling pass plays. Watching
- 34:15Speaker 1: this games like you're running at will against these guys.
- 34:18Speaker 1: Have you watched the Bills in the playoffs over the
- 34:21Speaker 1: last couple of years. They're not that big. You can
- 34:23Speaker 1: lean on them. Eat Entrant had twenty five carries, but
- 34:27Speaker 1: he just kept calling down the field passes and it
- 34:30Speaker 1: wasn't really working. And then at the end of the game, listen,
- 34:33Speaker 1: I disagreed with McDermott when he just scored on the
- 34:39Speaker 1: essentially Josh push. I would have melt it, ran it
- 34:43Speaker 1: down to like high twenties, call the time out and
- 34:45Speaker 1: ran that play three times because I wouldn't have wanted
- 34:48Speaker 1: to risk the way the kickoff rule is. I mean,
- 34:51Speaker 1: their kicker can hit it from like seventy yards. I
- 34:54Speaker 1: would have done that, but obviously it worked. A couple
- 34:56Speaker 1: of plays later they pick it off in the game's over,
- 34:59Speaker 1: I thought, And I also understand you don't want to
- 35:02Speaker 1: tempt fate a fumble something weird happens. I get it,
- 35:05Speaker 1: But that was a massive win, and I think sometimes
- 35:10Speaker 1: it's cool. And I've said this forever. I watched sports
- 35:12Speaker 1: for the best players. I was lucky, right. I was
- 35:16Speaker 1: grew up in the nineties, like most kids, idolized Michael Jordan.
- 35:20Speaker 1: I love golf, love Tiger Woods, like those are my
- 35:22Speaker 1: two favorite athletes by far. And then my favorite baseball
- 35:26Speaker 1: team had Barry Bonds from like when I was ten
- 35:28Speaker 1: years old up until I was graduating college, so like,
- 35:32Speaker 1: I watched it. And then when I worked in radio
- 35:33Speaker 1: with Steph Curry, I went to a ton of Warriors
- 35:36Speaker 1: games in his heyday when he was winning MVPs. That's
- 35:38Speaker 1: why I'm not a huge like watch it for the
- 35:40Speaker 1: little guy that could, like that doesn't do it for me.
- 35:43Speaker 1: I want to watch Peyton Manning. I want to watch
- 35:44Speaker 1: Tom Brady. I want to watch Steph Curry. I want
- 35:47Speaker 1: to watch the best of the best, and I pay
- 35:50Speaker 1: to watch Josh Allen. I really would and listen to
- 35:52Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. A good player, but kind of like you know,
- 35:56Speaker 1: Jordan Love, they're like the middle of the pack. When
- 35:58Speaker 1: they're on, they can be have top ten games, but
- 36:01Speaker 1: they're not top ten quarterbacks. Especially Trevor Lawrence, he's on
- 36:04Speaker 1: a low end of that. He got hot there first
- 36:06Speaker 1: stretch at the end of the season, but we saw
- 36:08Speaker 1: at home in a very conducive environment in seventy five degrees.
- 36:13Speaker 1: It's funny also, like I love the playoffs because you'll
- 36:16Speaker 1: just go to Chicago and it's like a it's like
- 36:18Speaker 1: a snow globe. You watch Philly, it's like this thing
- 36:21Speaker 1: is freezing, like domb. I know you're a big boy,
- 36:24Speaker 1: but how do you not have an extra jacket on?
- 36:27Speaker 1: How did some of these guys not have beanies on?
- 36:29Speaker 1: And then you go to Jacksonville it's like, yeah, we
- 36:31Speaker 1: got no taxes, were all in the pool. Sun's out
- 36:33Speaker 1: December tenth, were sweating, Like yeah, hard to beat that. Man.
- 36:37Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I'm a warm weather guy, and
- 36:40Speaker 1: like I like that, but that didn't benefit them because
- 36:44Speaker 1: Josh got loose and he got it. He worked him today,
- 36:48Speaker 1: he really did. And I thought Trevor Lawrence just his
- 36:52Speaker 1: numbers don't look that bad. I think he was eighteen
- 36:53Speaker 1: to thirty. But I don't know, man. I think it
- 36:57Speaker 1: was closer to the guy that I remember than the
- 36:59Speaker 1: guy that he thought he had become the last couple
- 37:01Speaker 1: of months. And some of it's on his coach, like
- 37:03Speaker 1: run the ball. Other than that, you know, we got
- 37:10Speaker 1: we know the games now. We got Bill's Denver, we
- 37:15Speaker 1: got New England playing whoever wins tomorrow. We got the
- 37:18Speaker 1: Niners playing Seattle, and we got the Rams playing Chicago.
- 37:22Speaker 1: That's that's a pretty good slate. And I think a
- 37:25Speaker 1: quick look ahead to this tomorrow game. And I mentioned
- 37:28Speaker 1: this to Coward when we were recording, is if this
- 37:31Speaker 1: was a Disney movie, right, if this was I just
- 37:34Speaker 1: watched F one the other day and like the legendary
- 37:36Speaker 1: guy got to win the last race, you would be like,
- 37:39Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is gonna throw a bunch of touchdowns. The
- 37:43Speaker 1: record on Monday Night football is gonna continue. It's gonna
- 37:45Speaker 1: be awesome. But this is the NFL. This is not
- 37:50Speaker 1: reality television. I know people think they script this, they don't,
- 37:54Speaker 1: and more than likely, like, this is not gonna end well, right,
- 37:58Speaker 1: He's playing a team as an underdog with an elite defense.
- 38:03Speaker 1: And I was I was flipping the channels this morning
- 38:06Speaker 1: at the gym when I was trying to get a
- 38:07Speaker 1: little sweat before the games, and Aiden Hutchinson was at
- 38:11Speaker 1: the in the studio with ESPN guys, and he was
- 38:15Speaker 1: talking about his experience playing Rogers and he's like, it's
- 38:17Speaker 1: not really fun because he's gonna get rid of the
- 38:19Speaker 1: ball so fast that however many plays you have on offense,
- 38:24Speaker 1: they're gonna be passes. Let's say forty to forty five,
- 38:27Speaker 1: you know, maybe less. You're gonna have two or three
- 38:31Speaker 1: chances over that entire time because of how quick he's
- 38:34Speaker 1: gonna get rid of it to sack him. And when
- 38:37Speaker 1: you get that opportunity, just better not you better not miss.
- 38:40Speaker 1: And the thing is these Textan guys don't miss. Denil
- 38:43Speaker 1: Hunter and Will and Will Anderson are just not gonna miss.
- 38:47Speaker 1: So if they get in the position where they are down,
- 38:49Speaker 1: they would be in major trouble. And obviously DK is
- 38:52Speaker 1: gonna have fresh legs, but is he out of rhythm,
- 38:55Speaker 1: they're missing Darnel Washington with a broken arm. Let's face it,
- 39:01Speaker 1: they are extremely lucky to be playing in this game.
- 39:04Speaker 1: If John Harbaugh one with twelve seconds left in a timeout,
- 39:10Speaker 1: if he got a little more aggressive, that field goal
- 39:11Speaker 1: should have been closer. And it's a tough place to kick.
- 39:15Speaker 1: But how often is this guy missing that kick? I
- 39:17Speaker 1: know he's a rookie, but less than twenty five percent
- 39:21Speaker 1: of the time. So if he kicks it ten times,
- 39:24Speaker 1: he's hitting seven or eight of them. So the Steelers
- 39:27Speaker 1: are very, very fortunate to be here. But part of
- 39:28Speaker 1: the reason they're fortunate is because their defense isn't that good.
- 39:32Speaker 1: Like they've moved Jalen Ramsey to safety. He blew multiple
- 39:35Speaker 1: things in that game that cost him. So he is
- 39:38Speaker 1: an all time great player right man. Jalen in his
- 39:40Speaker 1: prime was just elite. His versatility, his size, his physicality
- 39:45Speaker 1: as a tackler. I'm a big Jalen Ramsey fan, but
- 39:48Speaker 1: like at certain positions, when you get old, you kind
- 39:51Speaker 1: of fall off a cliff. He's just not quite the
- 39:53Speaker 1: same guy. And their pass rush isn't that great. And
- 39:56Speaker 1: while Cam Hayward played the game of his definitely over
- 40:00Speaker 1: the last several years he's been an older player. It
- 40:02Speaker 1: was awesome. It was like watching John Randall or something
- 40:05Speaker 1: in his prime. He was dominating that Raven. Can you
- 40:08Speaker 1: do that again? And I'm a cam Heyward. Guys come
- 40:10Speaker 1: on this podcast before TJ. Watt lot of respect for him,
- 40:13Speaker 1: but that injury, Like, did you really notice his presence
- 40:17Speaker 1: last week? I just have a hard time seeing this
- 40:20Speaker 1: go well for the Pittsburgh Steelers and if they lose
- 40:23Speaker 1: that game, listen, I know we had kind of talked
- 40:26Speaker 1: about it. We would talk about Tomlin forever. He never
- 40:28Speaker 1: gets fired. I never expected them to fire John Harbaugh,
- 40:31Speaker 1: not in a million years. It was honestly one of
- 40:33Speaker 1: the more shocking NFL news over the course of the
- 40:36Speaker 1: last i don't know, six plus months, where you just
- 40:38Speaker 1: see it in your jaw drops. You can't convince me
- 40:41Speaker 1: if the Houston Texas beat him by seven and ten
- 40:45Speaker 1: fourteen points. The last two playoff games they played, they've
- 40:48Speaker 1: been blown out by the Ravens and the Bills. If
- 40:51Speaker 1: that happens again, you got all these older players, the
- 40:56Speaker 1: conversation is gonna only get louder. And now they're all
- 40:59Speaker 1: these jobs open and like, would it be time to pivot?
- 41:02Speaker 1: Is now the time? So I listen. I think it
- 41:04Speaker 1: would be cool if the Steelers were to win this game.
- 41:08Speaker 1: With my heart, I would enjoy watching a throwback Rogers game.
- 41:12Speaker 1: It was awesome watching that fourth quarter against the Ravens.
- 41:16Speaker 1: But I'm not betting on it. I'm actually betting against it.
- 41:19Speaker 1: I'm going to take the Houston Txans in this game.
- 41:22Speaker 1: I actually love the Houston Dexans in this game. I
- 41:25Speaker 1: think they could smother them and absolutely destroy them. And
- 41:29Speaker 1: those runs that were going against the Ravens where Jalen
- 41:31Speaker 1: Warren is breaking tackles like he's Walter Payton or Earl Campbell,
- 41:36Speaker 1: I don't envision that happening on Monday night. And then,
- 41:40Speaker 1: you know, I think this loot. You lose at home,
- 41:43Speaker 1: all of a sudden it's not looking well, you get
- 41:45Speaker 1: some booze like you saw it today in Philly. When
- 41:48Speaker 1: it doesn't go well at home, it can just get weird,
- 41:52Speaker 1: and it can get weird really quick. It wasn't that
- 41:55Speaker 1: We're not that far removed from them, like Channing fire
- 41:58Speaker 1: Tomlin wasn't you know six months ago? That was like
- 42:02Speaker 1: two weeks ago against so It's like, guys, I just
- 42:07Speaker 1: think that I think we're seeing the end of it all.
- 42:11Speaker 1: I really do, and I'm more convinced now than ever
- 42:14Speaker 1: this league. There's a lot of moving parts. We're gonna
- 42:17Speaker 1: learn more about Lafleur over the next couple days. Obviously,
- 42:19Speaker 1: have thoughts, however that thing shakes out, This John Harbaughs situation,
- 42:23Speaker 1: the Sirianni situation, we got a lot going on and
- 42:27Speaker 1: it's just a crazy time in the NFL, A lot
- 42:29Speaker 1: like college football, but even on a much higher level.
- 42:32Speaker 1: You can fire anyone at any moment, because paying someone
- 42:35Speaker 1: twenty thirty to fifty million dollars to these NFL owners
- 42:39Speaker 1: now is like change that I could find in my
- 42:42Speaker 1: desk drawer. It means nothing to them. Imagine paying someone
- 42:47Speaker 1: to go away and owing them and the staff sixty
- 42:50Speaker 1: seventy million dollars and not even blinking, not even thinking
- 42:53Speaker 1: twice help the Raiders. A couple of years ago, before
- 42:58Speaker 1: Brady and the money got involved, they paid Josh McDaniels
- 43:01Speaker 1: and Dave Ziegeler are combined like seventy million dollars to
- 43:05Speaker 1: leave to pack your shit and go. Mark Davis is
- 43:09Speaker 1: not you know, Steve Balmer, but he has that much
- 43:14Speaker 1: money because of that's what the league generates from the
- 43:17Speaker 1: media deals. So all these coaches at all times, unless
- 43:21Speaker 1: you're Andy Reid, you just never know Sean McVay and
- 43:25Speaker 1: like Kyle Shan. It's a very short list of guys
- 43:28Speaker 1: that are truly totally safe. Any other guy, like if
- 43:32Speaker 1: people have some conversations, you pissed the wrong guy off you,
- 43:35Speaker 1: you don't manage up well enough, put your stuff in
- 43:38Speaker 1: a cardboard box and get the hell out of there.
- 43:40Speaker 1: That's how fast it changes, and that's it makes the
- 43:43Speaker 1: league a little more unpredictable. You know, the guys aren't
- 43:46Speaker 1: just gonna hold jobs for as long just because I
- 43:49Speaker 1: like you. Look at Wheree Morris. People love the guy.
- 43:52Speaker 1: He tied for first place, now granted it was eight nine.
- 43:55Speaker 1: They given the owner a hug, is like his wife,
- 43:58Speaker 1: his family's hugs, like for every game, and like Raheem,
- 44:02Speaker 1: you gotta go. We love you, but you're not coaching
- 44:05Speaker 1: this team, buddy, And I give Raheem props because if
- 44:08Speaker 1: someone paid me. The American dream is not a white
- 44:13Speaker 1: pick offence, a dog, a couple of kids. It's to
- 44:16Speaker 1: be paid millions of dollars to not work. That's I
- 44:22Speaker 1: can't even And you know what I saw Raheem basically
- 44:24Speaker 1: the guy like, if you don't hire me to bad coach,
- 44:25Speaker 1: I'm gonna go TV. It's like I would do do that.
- 44:29Speaker 1: Enjoy your life, that smart man. I'll end on this.
- 44:48Speaker 1: It's official now that Matt Ryan will be the boss
- 44:51Speaker 1: in Atlanta. They created some title He's above the GM
- 44:54Speaker 1: and the coach. Matt Ryan made hundreds of millions of
- 44:58Speaker 1: dollars playing football, because when you're a professional athlete, especially
- 45:03Speaker 1: I mean Matt Ryan played longer than most professional athletes.
- 45:07Speaker 1: If you're at the top of your field as a
- 45:08Speaker 1: quarterback at whatever position, as a baseball player, basketball player,
- 45:12Speaker 1: when you retire in your late thirties, you have accumulated
- 45:15Speaker 1: an goodly amount of money. Yet, especially a guy like
- 45:19Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, you're healthy, you got another forty to fifty
- 45:21Speaker 1: years ahead of you, You've probably got a young family,
- 45:24Speaker 1: you got literally the world by the balls, and then
- 45:27Speaker 1: you take some cush CBS job which is probably paying
- 45:30Speaker 1: you a million bucks. Just go in the studio, hangout
- 45:32Speaker 1: toxin ball. You do not need to sign up to
- 45:36Speaker 1: go get back into the world of grinding, because that's
- 45:39Speaker 1: what football is. If you're going to go into the
- 45:42Speaker 1: office every day, it is a grind. It's not a
- 45:45Speaker 1: place where people are smiling and having a great time
- 45:48Speaker 1: every day. It's a very serious, stressful, kind of angry environment,
- 45:55Speaker 1: which a lot of people like. Honestly, a lot of
- 45:57Speaker 1: these guys are addicted to that environment. You know, they
- 46:00Speaker 1: said in the movie Heat, the action is the juice.
- 46:03Speaker 1: I think a lot of these guys you know what
- 46:05Speaker 1: the juice is. It's not just Sunday running out there
- 46:08Speaker 1: to play in front of seventy thousand. It's like the
- 46:10Speaker 1: grind of Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. It's like the grind of
- 46:14Speaker 1: showing up at the office to get a workout at
- 46:17Speaker 1: six am and being there till ten o'clock at night.
- 46:20Speaker 1: It's the grind of just having to figure it out
- 46:23Speaker 1: on the fly on a Wednesday with some injuries and
- 46:25Speaker 1: just everyone on their fifth cup of coffee, third can
- 46:30Speaker 1: of the week of Copenhagen and just seventh pill of
- 46:35Speaker 1: adderall and just grinding in the office. It's some people
- 46:40Speaker 1: are just addicted to it. And Matt Ryan did not
- 46:42Speaker 1: need to do this. Now, I'm not acting like Arthur
- 46:46Speaker 1: Blank's paying him two hundred grand to accept this gick.
- 46:49Speaker 1: He's making millions of dollars, but like, not enough to
- 46:53Speaker 1: change his life. His life's already been changed by the
- 46:56Speaker 1: money he made playing. So when you signed back up
- 46:59Speaker 1: to go grind like this and you saw the clip
- 47:01Speaker 1: of John Lynch on the sideline, another guy did not
- 47:05Speaker 1: need to be doing this. Anyone that watched the Lway
- 47:08Speaker 1: documentary was like, I missed it. I just wanted to
- 47:10Speaker 1: do it. He became the GM of the Broncos, Like,
- 47:15Speaker 1: these guys can go play golf, hang out, do whatever
- 47:18Speaker 1: they want, get involved in businesses, do some TV. I
- 47:21Speaker 1: respect the hell out of these guys to just go
- 47:23Speaker 1: you know what, I miss the juice. I miss it.
- 47:28Speaker 1: I missed the misery, and I do admire and respect
- 47:32Speaker 1: that from these guys that are worth just so much
- 47:36Speaker 1: damn money and don't need the misery in their life,
- 47:39Speaker 1: but it kind of fulfills them because that's kind of
- 47:41Speaker 1: what football is, and working in football is not. The games,
- 47:47Speaker 1: like the three hour game day that you and I
- 47:49Speaker 1: watch on our couch is such a small sliver of
- 47:52Speaker 1: the actual job. It's it's probably over the course of
- 47:56Speaker 1: a season, I don't know two three percent of the gig,
- 48:00Speaker 1: So props to Matt Ryan. And I talked about this
- 48:03Speaker 1: on a podcast a couple of weeks ago because Pelsarro
- 48:07Speaker 1: on the NFL Network had a reported that he was
- 48:09Speaker 1: going to try to do both jobs, and he shot
- 48:11Speaker 1: that down. He said, I'm done with CBS. I was
- 48:14Speaker 1: watching him to day when he talked about it, like
- 48:16Speaker 1: he thanked everyone. You could tell he's kind of getting
- 48:18Speaker 1: emotional and just saying like they gave him this opportunity
- 48:21Speaker 1: and he was appreciative. And I would say the other thing,
- 48:25Speaker 1: you know, the thing with quarterbacks. I thought that i'd
- 48:29Speaker 1: say this with Philip Rivers. You know, Drew Brees, a
- 48:31Speaker 1: guy I got respect for Drew Brees, who I thought
- 48:33Speaker 1: was terrible on TV. He's gotten much better, like they
- 48:37Speaker 1: just happened to be, especially Matt Ryan. Six' five with
- 48:39Speaker 1: a good. Arm If Matt ryan couldn't throw the ball
- 48:42Speaker 1: five yards and just would have had to go work in, economics,
- 48:45Speaker 1: right he would have ran a, bank he would have
- 48:48Speaker 1: started a, business have been really Like Matt ryan was
- 48:50Speaker 1: destined to be a very very successful. Guy SO i
- 48:53Speaker 1: would tell you, This it would not shock me at
- 48:56Speaker 1: all if he was a BETTER gm than he was a.
- 48:59Speaker 1: Quarterback he was a good quarterback obviously had the ONE
- 49:01Speaker 1: mvp season that was the. Outlier mostly it was just
- 49:04Speaker 1: like a, consistent somewhere between like seven to twelve, guy
- 49:07Speaker 1: guy you could win with if you had a good.
- 49:09Speaker 1: Team if he, didn't it could go sour. Fast but
- 49:12Speaker 1: he was always really really impressive in really really. SHARP
- 49:15Speaker 1: i felt like he was smarter than he was. Talented
- 49:18Speaker 1: and if he really goes all in on this and
- 49:23Speaker 1: leans on the people he, knows he's been. Lucky he's
- 49:25Speaker 1: been around a lot of coaches in his career In,
- 49:27Speaker 1: atlanta and If lafleur became available Because Green bay fired,
- 49:31Speaker 1: him he was his quarterback coach when he won THE
- 49:32Speaker 1: mvp working For kyle when shocked me at, off they
- 49:35Speaker 1: hired him. Immediately so you know he's going to need
- 49:39Speaker 1: to lean on people for THE gm scouting. Aspect obviously
- 49:42Speaker 1: he's never done. That but the thing when You're Matt
- 49:45Speaker 1: ryan and you want to get some intel and you
- 49:46Speaker 1: pick up the phone and you Call Lane kiffin Or
- 49:49Speaker 1: Pete golding Or Ryan, day guess what they call you
- 49:51Speaker 1: right back text. HIM i guarantee you get a text
- 49:55Speaker 1: back in five, minutes so he will have no problem
- 49:57Speaker 1: gaining a, network AND I i think it's fair to
- 50:00Speaker 1: say he's smart enough if he's willing to do, this
- 50:03Speaker 1: because you can't be willing to like kind of go half,
- 50:05Speaker 1: in half out like that was the, Knock Like Maggie
- 50:07Speaker 1: johnson always kind of want to do, it but then
- 50:09Speaker 1: not really because he wanted the normal, life WHICH i
- 50:11Speaker 1: don't blame him at. All, RIGHT i would Do Dan
- 50:14Speaker 1: marino same. THING i would be like. Them i'd be,
- 50:16Speaker 1: Like i'm worth hundreds of MILLION, Ti i'm gonna go kick,
- 50:19Speaker 1: It i'm gonna go hang, Out i'm gonna go enjoy my.
- 50:21Speaker 1: Life i've already done, this But matt wants to put
- 50:25Speaker 1: his feet to the. Fire so IF i Was Atlanta falcon,
- 50:28Speaker 1: fan WHICH i haven't had many good things to say
- 50:30Speaker 1: about the franchise over the, YEARS i would say this
- 50:33Speaker 1: is this is EXCITING tbd see how it, goes but
- 50:38Speaker 1: it's it's exciting when you get a guy of his
- 50:41Speaker 1: stature to, say, YEAH i want. This and THEN i
- 50:43Speaker 1: listened to his comments today Like i'm doing this because
- 50:46Speaker 1: we deserve to be in the playoffs and we've been
- 50:48Speaker 1: shitty for too, long so exciting. Times and we'll be
- 50:53Speaker 1: back again tomorrow and we'll see what we'll. See How, hey,
- 50:56Speaker 1: listen there are gonna be some curveballs. COMING i would
- 50:58Speaker 1: Imagine monday Or. Tuesday and by curve, balls HOPEFULLY i
- 51:01Speaker 1: don't mean my son Say i'm. Ready i'm kind of
- 51:03Speaker 1: got my mindset On. Thursday but, listen can't play god,
- 51:06Speaker 1: Here but when it comes to, FOOTBALL I i think
- 51:10Speaker 1: some interesting stuff's about to happen the next couple of.
- 51:12Speaker 1: DAYS i think we're we're gonna enter the season where
- 51:15Speaker 1: we start getting really. Weird see you. Later the volume
- 51:24Speaker 1: m